=== Pibbles is now known as Pibble [01:18] Zephyr1139: did you choose SDDM, or lightdm? === st5ve is now known as hays [01:55] hi valorie === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === top is now known as Verhniy [02:31] skype on linux only x86 version? [02:34] Yep, but thanks to multiarch, you can install that on 64bit linux. [02:34] yes thanks [02:36] hi. should I run KDE 4.9 on Kubuntu 14.04? [02:37] or 13.10? [02:38] 13.10 is no longer supported [02:38] 13.10 is EOL'd, you should upgrade if you are using that. [02:38] if you must run an old version, use 12.04 [02:38] which is LTS [02:38] thanks. but what abou t the KDE 4.9 question? [02:38] sysop2: why do you need such an old KDE version? [02:39] I very much doubt you can run such an old version on 14.04 [02:39] KDE 4.9? old? [02:40] its got 4.1 on my 14.04. [02:42] valorie, I am waiting. [02:42] waiting for what? [02:43] to answer me. 14.04 comes with 4.1, so how is 4.9 old? [02:43] now I'm confused [02:43] 4.14 is the current [02:43] are you a bot? [02:43] there is no 4.9, and never will be one [02:44] we have frameworks 5, and plasma 5 available as testing ISOs [02:44] now [02:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbWwZaruQc [02:44] excuse me? [02:44] just asking. [02:46] sysop2: that is two years old, so 12.04 kubuntu will be fine with it [02:46] confusing numbering [02:46] oh ok. so what they are calling 4.9 is not what you are calling 4.9. now it makes sense. [02:47] I was just wanting to get the newest KDE I could that was stable. no looking to try 5 yet. [02:47] I do remember that release in honor of Clare Lotion, yes [02:48] 4.14 is very stable, and what this laptop I'm using right now is running [02:48] most stable and smooth yet [02:48] but I really want plasma 5! [02:48] so pretty [02:49] win8-10 style [02:49] thats what I said when I switched from 3 to 4! [02:49] so 14.04 is only a minor version behind. thats not bad. [02:50] I have dream desktop installed on my 64bit kubuntu box. its nice except for half the time when I add a video it crashes plasma. [02:50] aha, that was 4.0 SC [02:51] I don't think KDE does that sort of release any more [02:51] plasma hasn't crashed for me in at least a year [02:51] if not more [02:52] on 4.14? [02:52] well, I'm always up-to-date [02:53] I'll upgrade tomorrow or the next day on this laptop [02:53] well if you have never used it dream desktop is a little old and orphaned, so I am sure its not a problems with plasma for that. [02:53] once I get my test machine back running [02:53] broken hinge is causing havok on it atm [02:54] before that, 4.14 with plasma 5 was running pretty well [02:54] a couple of weeks ago [02:54] took me awhile to get it all apart [02:54] hmm, if there is a PPA for it I might upgrade my 64bit box. although its not super strong its a minnowboard max. [02:55] sysop2: just watch kubuntu.org for announcements [02:55] yes, we've got both a PPA and a stand-alone ISO available for testers [02:56] 4.14 with current plasma would suit me fine. [02:57] I'm testing plasma 5 atm... its got a few edges [02:57] it is so great that it's a bit boring [02:57] *left to polish [02:57] lol [02:57] MangaKaDenza: please file bugs when one bothers you [02:58] ah, ok [02:59] BTW before I go [03:00] are you a turtle? [03:00] uwot [03:01] NM. [03:47] valorie, re: did you choose SDDM, or lightdm? ... I must have missed an installation step. After installing kde-full I wasn't prompted for a choice. [03:52] I chose lightdm [03:52] but now I'm regretting i didn't test SDDM [03:52] that is the future [03:56] I'll give SDDM a try. [03:56] well, I guess lightdm must be stopped and uninstalled [03:56] I need to dig up the instructions before making the change [03:59] I'm starting with a 14.04 LTS server install. [04:00] is 14.04 the same as 4.14 ? [04:05] 14.04 is the *buntu version [04:05] 4.14 is the KDE version [04:05] you shouldn't have to worry about KDE version [04:06] just install `kubuntu-desktop` on top of the server version === kevin is now known as Guest91696 === yonney is now known as yonney_ === yonney_ is now known as guye_ [05:10] how i join laravel channel> [05:15] hi there [05:15] the login screen background image, where is it stored ? [05:20] !alis | guye_ [05:20] guye_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* === bishwo is now known as bishwo_ === bishwo_ is now known as ranhac === IdleOne is now known as Guest56782 [06:25] good morning [06:38] Good morning. [06:59] goo morning ppl! [07:00] how much left until 14.10 will be out? [07:01] Saphyel: Depends. [07:25] lordievader: explain it [07:26] It takes time to release Utopic, some times it takes more time and other times less. Therefore there is no set time when it is released. [07:30] it could be in an hour, or 20 hours [07:31] so I I'll wait until tomorrow [07:31] Saphyel: There are ways of getting it already ;) [07:32] any stable way? [07:33] Yes, the final iso's. [07:34] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com [07:34] Hey the final is still in testing. Saphyel if you do install it could you report your findings there? === qll is now known as fluxqll [08:23] is there some command to list the packages that are currently installed but are not in the default kubuntu installation, i.e. they were installed by the user at some point? === malc_calc is now known as malc === malc is now known as malc-calc [08:42] amichair_: it should be in an apt cache file somewhere [08:42] in etc I think [08:45] lordievader: i'll try it ^^ [08:45] valorie: etc/apt only has sources list from what I see === amichair_ is now known as amichair === metallic is now known as metallicdd === metallicdd is now known as metallic === metallic is now known as muuuu === muuuu is now known as metallic [09:08] amichair: what I was thinking of, I think, was /var/log/apt/history.log [09:12] valorie: that seems to be only a log of recent events [09:12] I've been doing rolling upgrades since Intrepid, and I'd like to do some cleanup... [09:13] a diff of 14.04 (or soon 14.10) packages with the currently installed ones [09:18] I googled a bit, but didn't see any good answers for you [09:19] well, you can get the manifest of 14.04 [09:19] and there are commands to get all the installed packages [09:19] you could diff those [09:20] manifest should be on the releases page [09:44] Hello [09:45] Someone know how to import file in kjots [09:45] valorie: you mean near the download links? [09:47] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/trusty/release/ [09:47] the manifests are on that page for download [10:23] valorie: thanks [10:40] HI all [10:56] Someone know how to import file in kjots [11:02] is there a kubuntu meta-package for all built-in games? [11:03] by built-in you mean ? [11:03] available in the repos? [11:04] hateball: I mean installed by default (now or in older releases) === facerias is now known as Galico === pvoigt_ is now known as pvoigt [11:28] amichair: Isn't kpat the only game installed by default? [11:29] it is, it would seem [11:31] Is it wise to install kde once I have installed standard ubuntu? As in add the WM? [11:32] Tabmow: doesnt really matter, I'd install kubuntu-desktop to get all the expected things tho [11:36] alvin, hateball: maybe in the past there were more (I've been doing rolling updates for quite a while)? I have a bunch of games installed which I never installed manually, and no kdegames meta-package [11:36] hateball: I'll install kde-full and see how I go then. Thanks. [11:45] Full has a lot of packages [11:54] Someone know where the files of kjots? [11:54] altin: i'm not disk bound or anything like that so I figured why not [11:57] Hallo! Weiß jemand, wann heute das neue Kubuntu erscheinen soll? [11:58] !de | LinuxFan [11:58] LinuxFan: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [12:00] Sorry! Does anybody know, when kubuntu 14.10 is ready for download today? === svend-ev__ is now known as svend-ev-spacet [12:41] is 14.10 going to be out today? [12:41] For some definition of today, probably [12:47] hateball: I'm guessing late us time? === carsten is now known as Guest4157 [13:01] to be honest 14.10 is one of the least exciting releases (ubuntu + kubuntu) as barely anything is different ... [13:04] well systemd and plasma 5/kf5 if you want, Yossarianuk [13:04] systemd !!!!!!!!!! [13:04] (im joking..) [13:05] ok didn't realise that was more integrated.. [13:05] interested in plasma5 though...... [13:06] BluesKaj: using 14.10 with the plasma5 ppa will be the same as downloading the plasma5 iso directly? [13:07] mokush, not sure...both were unsatisfactory :( [13:07] BluesKaj: what do you mean `unsatisfactory`? [13:07] and just to confirm there are no issues with plasma5 + nvidia (binary driver) ? [13:08] I know wayland is not supported... [13:08] not usable as a deskop for my needs..too buggy [13:08] mokush, ^ [13:08] I did try project-neon, but tought the plasma5 is more stable [13:11] I meant the plasma5-ppa [13:12] BluesKaj: dont scare people :) its working just fone for me [13:12] i have it on my working machine and personal laptop [13:12] soee, merely expressing my experience [13:13] BluesKaj: yes i know ;) and im posting mine so the users know for some its just fine [13:14] soee, yup , good to hear that it's working on some hw [13:14] Plasma 5.2 is planned january 2015 [13:14] then it should be more polished [13:15] soee, I sure hope so :) [13:16] is copy and paste working for you without need in the KB commands? [13:16] soee,^ [13:16] err needing [13:16] KB commands [13:16] ? [13:16] its working as usual :) [13:16] ctrl+c, ctrl+v [13:17] had to use them in place of the dialog copy and paste [13:17] and then didn't always work [13:17] works both, from context menu and shortcuts [13:19] is the theme selection working yet? [13:19] BluesKaj: i did test only switch Breeze -> Breeze Dark [13:19] and this 2 work [13:19] and different wallpaper for different desktops [13:19] had no need to use others [13:22] BluesKaj: how to say, i have 2 screens connected here at work and 2 virtual desktops so for 1 virtual desktop i have content on 2 screens and on both i can set different wallpaper [13:22] but it is changed on both virtual desktops [13:23] soee: are you using the plasma5-ppa on 14.10? [13:23] mokush: plasma-next ppa on 14.10 [13:23] soee: is that the ppa enabled by default on the plasma5-iso? [13:23] this one https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next [13:24] mokush: im not sure if isos have this enabled, thay just contain this packages [13:25] soee: do you use kate? any issues with it? I've been trying the project-neon daylies and had some issues with kate. project-neon also doesn't have kf5 dolphin [13:25] does kubuntu-next have dolphin on qt5/kf5? [13:25] there are non apps based on kf5 i think [13:26] well there were konsole, dolphin etc but they had various issues so they were move out of plasma-next ppa === Guest56782 is now known as IdleOne [14:23] HELLO ALL [14:23] does anybody know when will be released kubuntu 14.10????????????????????/ [14:23] LOL, 14.10 is a date. [14:24] sorry what does mean is a date? [14:24] sorry [14:24] tigran: Today somewhere, subscribe to the Ubuntu Announce mailing list. [14:25] how to subscribe? [14:25] tigran: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce [14:25] thanks a lot [14:32] valorie: shadeslayer: ping [14:33] mhall119: hiya [14:33] shadeslayer: hey, I sent emails out a couple weeks ago looking for track leads for the next Ubuntu Online Summit, you were a lead last time, would you be available again this time? [14:34] ah yeah, moment [14:34] or can you recommend someone from the Kubuntu community who would be able to? [14:34] * shadeslayer needs to check dates [14:35] I would also like a Kubuntu community track lead for the Users track too, since valorie isn't available this time around [14:35] I really should start using a calendar :p [14:36] I wouldn't recommend it, calendars are evil and tell you that you're busy all the time :) [14:40] mhall119: hehe :p [14:40] http://i.imgur.com/5l5d3xy.png http://i.imgur.com/Fu4cc9n.png [16:27] cant reize the window to normal size [14:40] mhall119: yeah I'm available, I'll try to russle up something [14:46] thanks shadeslayer [14:46] yw :) [14:56] http://i.imgur.com/5l5d3xy.png http://i.imgur.com/Fu4cc9n.png I cant reize the window to normal size === Pibble is now known as Krimoral === Krimoral is now known as Pibble [16:41] I am starting fresh on my laptop, im going to be installing windows 7 and then kubuntu, are drivers automatically installed for kubuntu, as I noticed I didnt need to install drivers at all on my desktop when I installed kubuntu, or does it just retrieve them from windows? [16:42] waffl3x: Jup, Ubuntu comes with a lot of drivers. [16:42] allright cool [16:42] do you mind helping me figgure out what drivers I will need for my windows side? [16:42] I have the page for my drivers here http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&m=R500A [16:42] waffl3x, ususally drivers for intel are the only ones that don't need upgrading, the nvidia and amd gpu driver do however unless you're happy with nouveau on nvidia [16:43] I dont even know what the EMI and Safety section of the drivers are [16:43] waffl3x: Blegh, Windows. [16:44] I honestly wish I could ditch windows, but as far as I know, gaming will be much easier on windows [16:44] im not even sure if everything I play is possible on linux [16:44] linux isn't really for serious gamers anyway [16:45] waffl3x: I may seems anti-windows, but I'm not. I run Windows quite often ;) [16:45] get a playstation or xbox :) [16:45] pc master race bro [16:46] besides, how would I play all those pc exclusives [16:46] so lordievader do you mind helping me go through that list? can I safely ignore the EMI and Safety section? [16:47] well, dunno , I'm not a gamer [16:47] waffl3x: In Windows it is just downloading the proper driver and hitting next quite a number of times. You should be able to do that ;) [16:48] I know that, I just cant figure out what some of this stuff is [16:48] I sent you the link to the drivers page for my laptop [16:48] theres a lot of obviously not needed stuff there [16:48] do you understand what I mean? [16:49] waffl3x: Yeah. But what is not needed depends on what you use. [16:49] well for starters [16:49] could I likely skip everything in EMI and Safety (8) [16:50] and I know I need the lan driver for sure [16:50] waffl3x: Lets move this over to #kubuntu-offtopic, it has nothing to do with Kubuntu support. [16:50] okay [16:50] hello what is the stable software which is removed when installing plasma 5 preview ? is there a list somewhere ? [16:51] alexis_: Apt tells you. [16:51] alexis_: But to answer your question more specifically, if you install the ppa KDE4 gets replaced. [16:52] okay so what about kmail for example ? [16:54] alexis_: Those things will likely be replaced by their KF5 counterparts if available. I'd say spin up a vm give it the plasma5 tech preview iso and see the differences for yourself. [16:54] thanks, good idea [16:58] Hi ,when kubutnu will be realeased ? [16:58] wissam: Depends, release notice has not been sent yet. [16:59] i thought it will be realeased with ubuntu at the same time === scott is now known as Guest11536 [17:01] wissam: Should be. [17:01] ok thnx === fra is now known as Guest92873 === Guest92873 is now known as francesco === francesco is now known as Guest23203 === Guest23203 is now known as fritz === fritz is now known as frix === frix is now known as bettisfr [17:42] Hey folks, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I want to back-up my Calibre library to my NAS box. I issue this command: "rsync -avvP --delete . rob@bb::rob/Calibre\ Library/" But the rsync fails with: "rsync: mkdir "/Calibre Library" (in rob) failed: File exists" Why is it failing? It should update files in the directory, not create a new one. [17:45] is 14.10 Online ? [18:37] ** Kubuntu 14.10 and Kubuntu Plasma5 14.10 Tech Preview is released http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.10 [18:38] Hooray :D [18:51] (psst, /topic) [19:42] anybody upgraded to 14.10 from 14.04 just now? any issues? [19:43] mokush: i am doing the upgrade now [19:43] mokush: so far it's only 40% downloaded, so... [19:43] Okitain: with muon updater? [19:43] mokush: nah, with the console thingy [19:45] I'll start upgrading as well. will you switch to plasma5? [19:46] mokush: is it available? I'd grab it in a heartbeat. [19:46] yeah, you'll have to add the kubuntu-next ppa. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.10 [19:47] mokush: Oh right! I'll probably just go with the 4.14 then at least until the upgrade finishes. [19:47] Okitain: yeah, only add the ppa after you're on 14.10 [19:48] mokush: oh god it's updating bible-time, now i am embarassed. [19:49] Hello how i can look for kubuntu version i have [19:49] ? [19:49] Okitain: it send everything to canonical to build a jesus-loving-christian-linux-user profile for you, to send to your atheist boss [19:49] jento: go System Settings -> About System [19:50] i have 14.04 and i will upgrade to 14.10 Plasma5 [19:50] how i make des [19:50] dise [19:50] jento: see the upgrade guide [19:50] yup [19:51] jento: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu [19:52] so, where's the release party? [19:53] mokush: give them some credit, they are sleeping [19:53] Okitain: no sleep till brooklyn man === kyle is now known as Guest14974 [19:57] I had to force remove kde-workspace-data to upgrade, this is probably becuase I have the kubuntu backports enabled and didn't use do-release-upgrade === Sauvin is now known as bocaneri [20:11] rberg: you used muon updater? it should also just run do-release-upgrade [20:12] no, I used sed to change trusty to utopic,then did a dist-upgrade (I have used debian for a long time so thats how I do) [20:15] 3 of 6 machines updated :) [20:16] vertago1_: any trouble? [20:17] Anyone else verify the sha256sums of the 14.10 ISOs from kubuntu.org? My values do not match if the first time in years. [20:18] mokush: I had one that had some issues with phpmyadmin's database update. I am looking to see if I need to do anything about it [20:19] mokush: strangely 2 other machines did the same update with no problem [20:20] vertago1_: are you using -server? [20:20] mokush: on 2 out of the 6 machines, the rest are kubuntu [20:21] vertago1_: you have a real swarm going on [20:22] mokush: yeah, I do research that often requires processing large sets of network traces so it helps to have a lot of MIPS [20:23] mokush: it looks like the problem is mysql is failing to start, probably a system specific issue. I am looking into it [20:24] vertago1_: does that mean akonadi fails as well? [20:25] mokush: On my other machines mysql and akonadi work fine. That one I haven't logged into the UI yet. [20:25] *GUI [20:29] mokush: the problem is I deleted some files in the /var/lib/mysql directory a while back so I need to repair the folder. It isn't a problem with the release. [20:29] vertago1_: good news [20:32] mokush: I spoke too soon. I am still not sure what the problem is. I recreated the /var/lib/mysql folder. What is strange is I don't get any error messages when I try to run mysqld [20:35] mokush: it looks like it is actually an apparmor issue [20:37] mokush: nvm there is no denied is just an audit [20:40] mokush: just fixed it. I was right the first time. I needed to run sudo mysql_install_db --user=mysql --ldata=/var/lib/mysql/ [20:42] mokush: akondai is working too [20:43] I am hoping the pulseaudio race condition is fixed in kubuntu 14.10 [20:53] ** kubuntu interview in 8 mins at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zff4v6Ebe_0 [20:55] Riddell: An inteview with whom? You? [20:55] arg there is still a race condition somewhere at startup [20:57] brb for reboot [21:01] gogo watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zff4v6Ebe_0 [21:02] nice speech bubble === yonney is now known as guye === guye is now known as guye_ [21:10] how to give proxy setting so that i can update kubuntu through terminal ?? [21:10] i have to give username and password too [21:11] i am using in vmware [21:17] surendra: http://askubuntu.com/questions/53146/how-do-i-get-add-apt-repository-to-work-through-a-proxy [21:17] so cops love free software [21:19] now my fglrx is happy... [21:21] mokush, What do you mean? [21:21] did I miss something? :/ [21:21] metallic: in the talk right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zff4v6Ebe_0 the guys pointed out that the french jandarmerie and other police units use linux/oss [21:23] mokush, so this comes out of the blue :/ [21:25] and one more thing vi editors when i try to use arrow keys in insert mode it is printing A B C D?? [21:26] even backspace not working [21:29] surendra: how does this look: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Fix_arrow_keys_that_display_A_B_C_D_on_remote_shell [21:30] ohh thanks a lot [21:36] when installing kubuntu-plasma5-desktop in 14.10, should I switch to ssdm? [21:36] that is the default when I installed the plasma5 beta on a vm [21:37] vertago1: thanks! I upgraded from 14.04 so I still had lightdm [21:38] Really starting to not like WICD :[ [21:38] And I dont really feel the motivation to track down the issue [21:38] strange my vm doesn't want to boot anymore [21:59] Hi, The links for the torrent files (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent) point to the ISO images [22:01] Now that is odd. Cloudfront. [22:03] Also, after downloading the image, I couldn't installed it in a VM (virtualbox), as it crashes just after hiting enter... [22:03] anyone has any hint? [22:05] !bot [22:07] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone [22:07] hi ubottu [22:09] the link to the kubuntu14.10 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent is redirecting to the iso. is that intentional? === facerias is now known as Galico [22:24] it looks like virtualbox has issues running the kubuntu 14.10 live cd [22:24] on kubuntu 14.10 [22:30] +vertago1 same here (both) [22:32] CarlosCorreia: I was able to fix it by updating the extension pack: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.18/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.18-96516.vbox-extpack [22:34] CarlosCorreia: if the graphics glitch for you; you can hit right-ctrl and F1 then right-ctrl and F7 to get it to reload [22:36] I am trying to setup a test platform for plasma 5 [22:47] Greetings! Anybody have a link to the torrents? the URL for the torrents on the official page link to the actual ISO's, and not the torrent [22:48] yeah [22:48] ScottyK: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.10/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent === gb_ is now known as Guest34861 [22:49] Thanks!! [22:49] ScottyK: no problem [23:22] how much space do I need for /? [23:23] All the spaces! [23:23] also, which partition should be primary? [23:31] welcome back DarthFrog [23:33] re