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| Fudge | it sure is neet | 10:27 |
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| Engimal | Hello, could I have some help? :) | 10:32 |
| mirror | Hello! I have a problem on fresh install of Lubuntu 14.04. It's about my wireless hidden network. now when i create wireless network it shows it on the list it finds it and connects to it but cannot use any network tools and says cannot connect to internet etc | 10:53 |
| mirror | does anybody have any ideas how to solve this? | 10:54 |
| hateball | iirc network-manager cant handle hidden networks properly | 10:56 |
| mirror | aha will there be a fix or i should make a report to the Lubuntu | 11:01 |
| mirror | thank you for your time will report it to lubuntu | 11:03 |
| pese | anyone know what time 14.10 final is being released? | 13:41 |
| zy3pD | is 14.10 already released? | 13:47 |
| === Guest56782 is now known as IdleOne | ||
| pese | not last I checked | 14:00 |
| pese | seems released now: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/utopic/release/lubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:02 |
| pese | torrent: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/lubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 14:04 |
| zy3pD | thx pese ... really hidden link. i only found betas (also on lubuntu.net) | 14:09 |
| === joern__ is now known as joern | ||
| Ahmuck | 14.10 out today? | 15:47 |
| sheena1 | My laptop keeps suspending/powering down on inactivity, and I can't find a setting to fix that. Lubuntu 14.04, any ideas? | 16:10 |
| Ahmuck | yes. change the power setting | 16:11 |
| Ahmuck | Menu --> Preferences --> Power Manager | 16:12 |
| sheena1 | where is this setting? i have tried changing the setting in Preferences - Power Manager (brings up XFCE Power Manager Settings) and all is set to NEVER but it still suspends | 16:12 |
| Ahmuck | is it the computer going into suspend or the monitor blanking? | 16:13 |
| sheena1 | it goes blank and comes up with the lock login sreen when i use the keyboard/mouse to resume it.. but the problem is that it suspends my uploads so i cannot leave it running to upload while i'm away from it. | 16:14 |
| Ahmuck | on power or on battery? | 16:15 |
| sheena1 | both. | 16:15 |
| Ahmuck | So ... you have under AC and On Battery ... Actions --> BAttery Power is Critical = Nothing, When laptop lid is closed = Nothing, Put the computer to sleep when inactive for: = Never, Monitor: Put display to sleep when computer is inactive for: Never, Switch off dispaly when computer is inactive for" = Never, Extended: Set computer activity mode: Set monitor sleep mode, Lock screen when going for suspend/hibernate | 16:19 |
| Ahmuck | if it were me and i was trying to retain power i would set everything to never. if it continued to do the same thing than it is not a setting in the power manager | 16:20 |
| sheena1 | I have Battery power is critical - suspend | 16:20 |
| Ahmuck | i wonder if you need to check the extended settings | 16:21 |
| sheena1 | I have set everything to never now, will see if it makes a difference | 16:21 |
| sheena1 | set inactivity sleep mode is suspend, it's my only option | 16:21 |
| sheena1 | monitor sleep mode has standby and suspend, its set to stantby | 16:21 |
| sheena1 | low power is set at 10% | 16:21 |
| sheena1 | lock screen is unchecked | 16:21 |
| Ahmuck | my power monitor shouts critical at me when i have 1 hour left on my battery time. my batter time is 3.75 hours at a time | 16:22 |
| Ahmuck | you might uncheck prefer power savings over performance | 16:22 |
| sheena1 | i almost never run on battery | 16:22 |
| tumbler | hi guys | 16:22 |
| sheena1 | do you know where to change brightness settings, by the way? i cant fifure that out either :( | 16:22 |
| Ahmuck | i guess the point i am trying to make is ... set things so that there is no option to suspend and see if you are getting the suspension issue then. | 16:23 |
| sheena1 | will do | 16:23 |
| Ahmuck | brightness settings in that it powers down the display brightness after a while? | 16:23 |
| tumbler | how can i add a personal menu on mouse riht when i click on desktop??? | 16:24 |
| Ahmuck | tumbler, describe? a personal menu on the mouse? | 16:24 |
| sheena1 | no, that i can set it to be less bright when it's dark in my room, and as bright as normal when its daylight | 16:24 |
| Ahmuck | most laptops have function keys that will do that | 16:24 |
| tumbler | like openbox | 16:24 |
| tumbler | or fluxbox | 16:25 |
| Ahmuck | sheena1, you might look at light locking option on preferences as well | 16:25 |
| Ahmuck | tumbler, u might need a different panel. | 16:26 |
| tumbler | for exemple? | 16:26 |
| tumbler | couldn't i set a shortcut key? | 16:27 |
| Ahmuck | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1653987 | 16:28 |
| sheena1 | disable lightlocker? | 16:28 |
| sheena1 | Ahmuck: this is for the suspend issue, not the brightness, right? | 16:28 |
| Ahmuck | tumbler, i would search for "use openbox desktop menu on lubuntu". | 16:28 |
| Ahmuck | light locker is for your suspend issue | 16:29 |
| sheena1 | ok. i have disabled it. will see if it helps | 16:30 |
| sheena1 | any idea on brightness adjust? | 16:30 |
| Ahmuck | my observation of lxde (which is what ubuntu is based upon) is it is a conglomerate of programs used to create a desktop. this is why you have xfce power manager in lxde (amongst other things) | 16:30 |
| sheena1 | right, that makes sense. | 16:31 |
| Ahmuck | http://askubuntu.com/questions/490068/how-to-adjust-brightness-on-lubuntu | 16:31 |
| phillw | we did not re-invent the wheel, xcfe power manager works well and is maintained :) | 16:32 |
| Ahmuck | iirc light locker is a new member to the family. this may mean you have more than one program trying to control the settings (maybe). | 16:32 |
| Ahmuck | i found this out the hard way with language | 16:32 |
| phillw | you may find it is a BIOS / acpi issue. I can use my Fn keys for brightness. | 16:33 |
| sheena1 | phillw: any idea how to check or fix it? | 16:34 |
| ianorlin | or you could install xbacklight to change brightness to work around | 16:34 |
| ianorlin | then you can set it to specific level rather than just changing it | 16:34 |
| ianorlin | read the man page for more info on how to do it | 16:34 |
| phillw | +1 | 16:34 |
| sheena1 | http://pastebin.com/cuzzVvdu | 16:34 |
| ianorlin | and xbacklight is added to 14.10 by default | 16:34 |
| sheena1 | ianorlin: when is the upgrade available? | 16:35 |
| ianorlin | not quite sure | 16:35 |
| ianorlin | you can still install it on trusty | 16:35 |
| Ahmuck | the link i just gave you gives you a link to xbacklight | 16:35 |
| phillw | sheena1: very soon, mirrors are being updated | 16:35 |
| Ahmuck | 14.10 is available today | 16:35 |
| Ahmuck | er, now | 16:36 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: not yet :) | 16:36 |
| sheena1 | xbacklight doesnt seem to have any effect | 16:36 |
| Ahmuck | i just downloaded 14.10 | 16:36 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: you downloaded the Release Candidate. | 16:37 |
| sheena1 | $ xbacklight -get gives me 0.000000 | 16:37 |
| Ahmuck | that is not what the description indicates | 16:37 |
| ianorlin | it should be xbaclkight -set | 16:37 |
| Ahmuck | the description is lubntu-14.10-alternate-i386.iso | 16:37 |
| sheena1 | i tried set and it did nothing | 16:37 |
| sheena1 | -get should tell me the current brightness, says the man file | 16:38 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker | 16:38 |
| Ahmuck | currently with 1 or 2 peers | 16:38 |
| Ahmuck | on the torrent, faster if you go direct. | 16:38 |
| Ahmuck | here, let me get a link | 16:38 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: it is not released, get as many links as you want :D | 16:39 |
| Ahmuck | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/ | 16:39 |
| phillw | people love to jump the gun... | 16:39 |
| Ahmuck | *shrugs* it downloaded or your descriptions are wrong | 16:39 |
| Ahmuck | on the website | 16:39 |
| Ahmuck | oops, i see | 16:40 |
| Ahmuck | is release = release canidate or release | 16:40 |
| phillw | Mirrors are being synced. until that happens release is not live. | 16:40 |
| Ahmuck | why did it download then? | 16:41 |
| phillw | as soon as mirrors sync'd should be good to go :) But, until the release team make the announcement it is not released. e.g. kubuntu was only marked as ready an hour or so ago. | 16:42 |
| phillw | ubuntu shortly after that. | 16:42 |
| Ahmuck | so the description for the iso i downloaded is wrong? | 16:43 |
| Ahmuck | cause i'm installing it now and i will now in about 10 min | 16:43 |
| phillw | if from cdimages, you *should* be fine. | 16:44 |
| Ahmuck | what is the difference? | 16:45 |
| phillw | as soon as we get the okay, all the wiki pages can be invoked. | 16:45 |
| Ahmuck | are you saying it is not available via download button on the wiki until u get the ok? | 16:45 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: the mirrors across the globe need syncing | 16:45 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: indeed, that page is Release+1 :) | 16:46 |
| Ahmuck | msg ? | 16:46 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#At_Release | 16:47 |
| Ahmuck | phillw, pm | 16:47 |
| phillw | sure | 16:47 |
| garbonzo | hi all | 16:50 |
| Gl4di4t0r | Version 14.10 doesn't work in Virtualbox :( | 16:50 |
| garbonzo | please can someone advise on a laptop not rebooting properly in lubuntu? | 16:51 |
| phillw | Gl4di4t0r: that should be fixed, let me go find the bug. | 16:51 |
| Ahmuck | garbonzo, ping | 16:53 |
| Ahmuck | garbonzo, explain further | 16:53 |
| Ahmuck | Gl4di4t0r, it is working in VB | 16:53 |
| garbonzo | hi ahmuck. it's an ancient toughbook cf-18, graphics driver i915 | 16:53 |
| garbonzo | when i reboot it does the shutdown part properly, just doesn't restart | 16:53 |
| phillw | Gl4di4t0r: bug 1380005 | 16:54 |
| ubottu | bug 1380005 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "Graphical server of Ubuntu 14.10 daily build does not start in Virtualbox" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1380005 | 16:54 |
| Ahmuck | garbonzo, version? | 16:54 |
| Gl4di4t0r | I rest my case ;) | 16:54 |
| garbonzo | 14.04 | 16:54 |
| Ahmuck | garbonzo, upgrading an option? | 16:55 |
| garbonzo | to 14.10 or a new laptop? :-) | 16:56 |
| Ahmuck | to 14.10 :) | 16:56 |
| garbonzo | could do i suppose | 16:56 |
| garbonzo | what's the distro upgrade command again? getting old ;-) | 16:56 |
| Ahmuck | sometimes I found rather than fighting a problem trying the newer release will fix something | 16:56 |
| garbonzo | very true | 16:57 |
| Ahmuck | granted, it sometimes breaks things as well | 16:57 |
| garbonzo | that's half the fun | 16:57 |
| phillw | garbonzo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_last_release :) | 16:58 |
| phillw | just waiting for the fat lady to sing :D | 16:59 |
| garbonzo | right, here goes nuffink. will see you all on the other side of the distro upgrade! | 17:00 |
| Ahmuck | is there a reset to defaults options on xfce power manager? | 17:04 |
| Ahmuck | or for that mattter, any program? | 17:04 |
| sheena1 | syntax in bash... i have a txt file that is a list of links i want to open in firefox.. | 17:05 |
| sheena1 | for i in test2.txt; do firefox i | 17:05 |
| sheena1 | that is wrong obivously | 17:05 |
| sheena1 | cause it just opens 'i' lol | 17:06 |
| garbonzo | no joy... | 17:14 |
| garbonzo | ...when's 14.10 out please? | 17:15 |
| genii | Sometime later today | 17:16 |
| garbonzo | excellent | 17:16 |
| phillw | And... we're live!!! | 17:16 |
| garbonzo | wow, that's it ready then? | 17:16 |
| phillw | yup | 17:17 |
| garbonzo | congrats, well done and all that | 17:17 |
| phillw | just doing the housework | 17:17 |
| Ahmuck | heh, already have it installed | 17:17 |
| Ahmuck | :p | 17:17 |
| Ahmuck | has lubuntu always installed humanity-icon-theme? | 17:26 |
| zy3pD | think so | 17:28 |
| zy3pD | when i wake up my pc, nm-applet says that network is deactivated, but service networking is running, how to solve it? | 17:30 |
| Ahmuck | odd, i'm on the same release and i often move between sections of town and never have to re-activate my network, it's like i never left | 17:31 |
| Ahmuck | zy3pD, version? | 17:31 |
| zy3pD | Ahmuck, 14.04 | 17:32 |
| Ahmuck | the network service is running though? | 17:32 |
| Ahmuck | ghost message? after coming out of suspend the message still gets sent? | 17:34 |
| Ahmuck | bbl, checking snail mail | 17:34 |
| phillw | can some one idiot check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu for me. had to add in 14.04 LTS !! | 17:39 |
| garbonzo | defo showing the 14.10 page version | 17:45 |
| garbonzo | how long before software updater picks it up, assuming i've set it to notify immediately? | 17:46 |
| phillw | update notifier usually trips in the early hours as a job. you can manually ask for an update | 17:58 |
| phillw | garbonzo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_last_release | 17:59 |
| Ahmuck | 14.10 is running in Vbox as I type | 17:59 |
| garbonzo | yup, i did the cli command and it returned that no new release was available | 17:59 |
| phillw | Ahmuck: it was fixed, I chased the failure in virt-manager (KVM) | 18:00 |
| phillw | garbonzo: then things have not fully filtered through yet. be patient :) | 18:00 |
| garbonzo | what is this "patient" of which you speak? :-) | 18:01 |
| Ahmuck | does not appear to be anything new | 18:01 |
| Ahmuck | something i would like to see, is software selection upon install | 18:01 |
| Ahmuck | for example, i dump abiword and gnumeric in favor of libreoffice | 18:01 |
| joppe | what if you uninstall them, it says remove lubuntu-desktop | 18:02 |
| joppe | what then happens, i dont know | 18:02 |
| garbonzo | would be great to have that as a software preferences profile on a usb stick... | 18:02 |
| Ahmuck | i do anyway | 18:03 |
| Ahmuck | joppe, | 18:03 |
| joppe | yes | 18:03 |
| Ahmuck | garbonzo, software preferences as in software selection preferences or software config preferences and data? | 18:04 |
| Ahmuck | x /home/user/.config | 18:09 |
| garbonzo | more the software selection... would be good to always have, for example, focuswriter, geany, xchat, build-essentials... | 18:09 |
| Ahmuck | x /home/user/.local | 18:09 |
| Ahmuck | upon installation | 18:09 |
| Ahmuck | i have a script that i run that purges "junk" and installs my "stuff" | 18:10 |
| Ahmuck | after install | 18:10 |
| Ahmuck | but having it pre install would be nice | 18:10 |
| Ahmuck | something i would like to see and am hoping to instigate is a more standards compliant distro. be it via modification scripts or otherwise. you would have a script for each program (ie firefox) that would put the configs in /home/user/.config, the data in /home/user/.local/app, user icons in /home/user/.icons, etc. | 18:12 |
| Ahmuck | as well as system wide configs in system wide config directories according to accepted standards | 18:12 |
| garbonzo | cool | 18:14 |
| Ahmuck | software really needs more transparency and configurability in these areas by putting the configs and data back into the hands of the user where they can find them easily | 18:15 |
| joppe | well my question is, if i remove some programs it says remove lubuntu-desktop, what it means? | 18:18 |
| Ahmuck | i've done it without problems | 18:23 |
| Ahmuck | which is not to say you might have problems, simply i've always done it without problems | 18:24 |
| joppe | so ican remove transmission, because im usin qbittorrent, its safe? | 18:24 |
| Ahmuck | like i said, it did not change anything for me. are you familiar with aptitude? i use aptitude to see what it removes. | 18:27 |
| joppe | well i remove via command line and bleachbit does rest :) | 18:27 |
| Ahmuck | i wish i had something like that to set configuration for major programs | 18:31 |
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| Gamara_ | Hello, I have this screen popping up before booting on a macbook 1,1 (Tech specs here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook_2.0_white.html ), the error message is here: http://i.imgur.com/Mst8esn.jpg?1 , http://i.imgur.com/4uNGE2C.jpg?1 is this anything I should be concerned about? I have had one hard freeze since using this operating system. | 20:09 |
| Gamara_ | I'm running lubuntu 14.04.1 | 20:09 |
| silverlion | Gamara_ : you might want to talk to wxl | 20:10 |
| wxl | someone needs mac help? | 20:10 |
| silverlion | he is our mac expert ;) | 20:10 |
| Gamara_ | yeah I was just curious about this error message I'm getting at boot would you like to repost the information? | 20:11 |
| Gamara_ | like me* | 20:11 |
| wxl | i see | 20:11 |
| wxl | i wouldn't be too concerned Gamara_ | 20:12 |
| wxl | which version Gamara_ ? | 20:12 |
| Gamara_ | lubuntu 14.04.1 | 20:12 |
| Gamara_ | is what I'm currently usng | 20:12 |
| Gamara_ | using* | 20:12 |
| wxl | Gamara_: when the freeze happened did you run out of resources? could you get to a virtual terminal? | 20:13 |
| Gamara_ | I didn't try | 20:13 |
| Gamara_ | The laptop currently has 2gb of ram | 20:14 |
| Gamara_ | not 512 | 20:14 |
| Gamara_ | I just hard reset it I really should learn how to shut it down properly on hard freeze | 20:14 |
| wxl | Gamara_: you should monitor whether or not you're running out of cpu or ram. you should also watch temperatures and see if that's the problem. if you do get a freeze, you should try using virtual terminals and/or ssh to see if the machine is still alive. if it is, restarting the lightdm service should get you a working gui again. at that point, you should check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors. might be a driver issue. | 20:16 |
| wxl | Gamara_: if you can narrow it down to a particular problem, then you can run ubuntu-bug against it. might want to see if /var/log/syslog or dmesg has any errors in it. that may help. | 20:16 |
| Gamara_ | how do I do this sorry I'm pretty noob with ubuntu/lubuntu | 20:17 |
| wxl | Gamara_: you can use indicators in lxpanel to tell you about cpu and ram and temperature | 20:18 |
| Gamara_ | and thank you for the help it is much appreciated | 20:18 |
| wxl | Gamara_: virtual terminals can be accessed typically with ctrl-alt-f1. i think on mac that's ctrl-fn-command-f1 or something of the sort. you have to play around with it | 20:19 |
| Gamara_ | alright I will try it out | 20:19 |
| wxl | Gamara_: these terminals exists outside the graphical context so if you CAN get a working terminal, you have a problem with the GUI | 20:20 |
| wxl | Gamara_: that's usually a driver problem | 20:20 |
| Gamara_ | it is ctrl-alt-fn-f1 | 20:20 |
| wxl | Gamara_: as a general rule, everything logs to /var/log | 20:21 |
| wxl | Gamara_: syslog and dmesg cover general system issues | 20:21 |
| wxl | Gamara_: Xorg.0.log is specifically about the x server (the gui) | 20:21 |
| wxl | Gamara_: you also might look in /var/crash | 20:21 |
| Gamara_ | alright what command do I use to exit virtual terminal | 20:21 |
| wxl | Gamara_: go to virtual terminal 7 | 20:22 |
| wxl | Gamara_: note that if you are maxing out your cpu, your temperatures will usually go up and in the case of a laptop, this often means a total freeze and/or hard shutdown | 20:22 |
| Gamara_ | what do you suggest the best widget/application for monitoring temperature is? | 20:23 |
| wxl | Gamara_: if you max out ram you can either get the out of memory killer (apparently) randomly shutting down processes or you can get what seems like a total freeze | 20:23 |
| wxl | Gamara_: whatever's in lxpanel is usually sufficient | 20:23 |
| Gamara_ | alright thanks | 20:23 |
| wxl | Gamara_: also the task manager can give you a good sense of things | 20:24 |
| Gamara_ | alright so look at, /var/crash, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, dmesg for errors after a hard freeze or right now? If I narrow it down I can post it to ubuntu bug report or whatever its called | 20:29 |
| wxl | Gamara_: yes. if you need help with interpreting them, let us know. and the tool is "ubuntu-bug" | 20:30 |
| wxl | !bugs | Gamara_ | 20:30 |
| ubottu | Gamara_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 20:30 |
| wxl | i wonder | 20:30 |
| wxl | !logs | 20:30 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. | 20:30 |
| wxl | no no | 20:30 |
| wxl | !logfiles | 20:31 |
| wxl | nope | 20:31 |
| wxl | !log | 20:31 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. | 20:31 |
| wxl | bah | 20:31 |
| wxl | here Gamara_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles | 20:31 |
| Gamara_ | ok ok thanks | 20:31 |
| phillw | ha ha | 20:31 |
| Gamara_ | I turned on the lxpanel temperature monitor and im getting -273 C lol | 20:35 |
| Gamara_ | ok my computer is being weird mouse moves around but is stuck as a hand gripped, I cant click on anything | 21:11 |
| Gamara_ | this all happened after try to drag a file out of extractor or whatever that app is called | 21:12 |
| Gamara_ | I cant click anything and the keyboard doesnt seem to be working | 21:12 |
| Gamara_ | how do I shut down my computer from virtual terminal | 21:12 |
| Gamara_ | on 14.04 | 21:12 |
| phillw | Gamara_: get a terminal session running https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 21:14 |
| Gamara_ | nvm im dumb | 21:14 |
| Gamara_ | fixed it | 21:14 |
| phillw | kk :) | 21:14 |
| Gamara_ | ty though | 21:14 |
| honestemu | I have 4 workspaces. I click CTRL+ALT+<- or CTRL+ALT+-> to switch to an adjacent workspace. How do I jump to a specific workspace? | 22:02 |
| dust | hi | 22:34 |
| LinusTorvaldII | hows it goin dust | 22:35 |
| dust | any idea why it isnt possible to receive files here in irc with pidgin? | 22:35 |
| dust | after a working upgrade always better :D | 22:36 |
| garbonzo | took over an hour on this old clunker, but now running the new release. Thanks devs! | 23:53 |
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