=== RedDeathi is now known as RedDeath === RedDeath is now known as Guest74644 === IdleOne is now known as Guest56782 [10:27] it sure is neet [10:32] Hello, could I have some help? :) [10:53] Hello! I have a problem on fresh install of Lubuntu 14.04. It's about my wireless hidden network. now when i create wireless network it shows it on the list it finds it and connects to it but cannot use any network tools and says cannot connect to internet etc [10:54] does anybody have any ideas how to solve this? [10:56] iirc network-manager cant handle hidden networks properly [11:01] aha will there be a fix or i should make a report to the Lubuntu [11:03] thank you for your time will report it to lubuntu [13:41] anyone know what time 14.10 final is being released? [13:47] is 14.10 already released? === Guest56782 is now known as IdleOne [14:00] not last I checked [14:02] seems released now: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/utopic/release/lubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso [14:04] torrent: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/lubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [14:09] thx pese ... really hidden link. i only found betas (also on lubuntu.net) === joern__ is now known as joern [15:47] 14.10 out today? [16:10] My laptop keeps suspending/powering down on inactivity, and I can't find a setting to fix that. Lubuntu 14.04, any ideas? [16:11] yes. change the power setting [16:12] Menu --> Preferences --> Power Manager [16:12] where is this setting? i have tried changing the setting in Preferences - Power Manager (brings up XFCE Power Manager Settings) and all is set to NEVER but it still suspends [16:13] is it the computer going into suspend or the monitor blanking? [16:14] it goes blank and comes up with the lock login sreen when i use the keyboard/mouse to resume it.. but the problem is that it suspends my uploads so i cannot leave it running to upload while i'm away from it. [16:15] on power or on battery? [16:15] both. [16:19] So ... you have under AC and On Battery ... Actions --> BAttery Power is Critical = Nothing, When laptop lid is closed = Nothing, Put the computer to sleep when inactive for: = Never, Monitor: Put display to sleep when computer is inactive for: Never, Switch off dispaly when computer is inactive for" = Never, Extended: Set computer activity mode: Set monitor sleep mode, Lock screen when going for suspend/hibernate [16:20] if it were me and i was trying to retain power i would set everything to never. if it continued to do the same thing than it is not a setting in the power manager [16:20] I have Battery power is critical - suspend [16:21] i wonder if you need to check the extended settings [16:21] I have set everything to never now, will see if it makes a difference [16:21] set inactivity sleep mode is suspend, it's my only option [16:21] monitor sleep mode has standby and suspend, its set to stantby [16:21] low power is set at 10% [16:21] lock screen is unchecked [16:22] my power monitor shouts critical at me when i have 1 hour left on my battery time. my batter time is 3.75 hours at a time [16:22] you might uncheck prefer power savings over performance [16:22] i almost never run on battery [16:22] hi guys [16:22] do you know where to change brightness settings, by the way? i cant fifure that out either :( [16:23] i guess the point i am trying to make is ... set things so that there is no option to suspend and see if you are getting the suspension issue then. [16:23] will do [16:23] brightness settings in that it powers down the display brightness after a while? [16:24] how can i add a personal menu on mouse riht when i click on desktop??? [16:24] tumbler, describe? a personal menu on the mouse? [16:24] no, that i can set it to be less bright when it's dark in my room, and as bright as normal when its daylight [16:24] most laptops have function keys that will do that [16:24] like openbox [16:25] or fluxbox [16:25] sheena1, you might look at light locking option on preferences as well [16:26] tumbler, u might need a different panel. [16:26] for exemple? [16:27] couldn't i set a shortcut key? [16:28] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1653987 [16:28] disable lightlocker? [16:28] Ahmuck: this is for the suspend issue, not the brightness, right? [16:28] tumbler, i would search for "use openbox desktop menu on lubuntu". [16:29] light locker is for your suspend issue [16:30] ok. i have disabled it. will see if it helps [16:30] any idea on brightness adjust? [16:30] my observation of lxde (which is what ubuntu is based upon) is it is a conglomerate of programs used to create a desktop. this is why you have xfce power manager in lxde (amongst other things) [16:31] right, that makes sense. [16:31] http://askubuntu.com/questions/490068/how-to-adjust-brightness-on-lubuntu [16:32] we did not re-invent the wheel, xcfe power manager works well and is maintained :) [16:32] iirc light locker is a new member to the family. this may mean you have more than one program trying to control the settings (maybe). [16:32] i found this out the hard way with language [16:33] you may find it is a BIOS / acpi issue. I can use my Fn keys for brightness. [16:34] phillw: any idea how to check or fix it? [16:34] or you could install xbacklight to change brightness to work around [16:34] then you can set it to specific level rather than just changing it [16:34] read the man page for more info on how to do it [16:34] +1 [16:34] http://pastebin.com/cuzzVvdu [16:34] and xbacklight is added to 14.10 by default [16:35] ianorlin: when is the upgrade available? [16:35] not quite sure [16:35] you can still install it on trusty [16:35] the link i just gave you gives you a link to xbacklight [16:35] sheena1: very soon, mirrors are being updated [16:35] 14.10 is available today [16:36] er, now [16:36] Ahmuck: not yet :) [16:36] xbacklight doesnt seem to have any effect [16:36] i just downloaded 14.10 [16:37] Ahmuck: you downloaded the Release Candidate. [16:37] $ xbacklight -get gives me 0.000000 [16:37] that is not what the description indicates [16:37] it should be xbaclkight -set [16:37] the description is lubntu-14.10-alternate-i386.iso [16:37] i tried set and it did nothing [16:38] -get should tell me the current brightness, says the man file [16:38] Ahmuck: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker [16:38] currently with 1 or 2 peers [16:38] on the torrent, faster if you go direct. [16:38] here, let me get a link [16:39] Ahmuck: it is not released, get as many links as you want :D [16:39] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/release/ [16:39] people love to jump the gun... [16:39] *shrugs* it downloaded or your descriptions are wrong [16:39] on the website [16:40] oops, i see [16:40] is release = release canidate or release [16:40] Mirrors are being synced. until that happens release is not live. [16:41] why did it download then? [16:42] as soon as mirrors sync'd should be good to go :) But, until the release team make the announcement it is not released. e.g. kubuntu was only marked as ready an hour or so ago. [16:42] ubuntu shortly after that. [16:43] so the description for the iso i downloaded is wrong? [16:43] cause i'm installing it now and i will now in about 10 min [16:44] if from cdimages, you *should* be fine. [16:45] what is the difference? [16:45] as soon as we get the okay, all the wiki pages can be invoked. [16:45] are you saying it is not available via download button on the wiki until u get the ok? [16:45] Ahmuck: the mirrors across the globe need syncing [16:46] Ahmuck: indeed, that page is Release+1 :) [16:46] msg ? [16:47] Ahmuck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#At_Release [16:47] phillw, pm [16:47] sure [16:50] hi all [16:50] Version 14.10 doesn't work in Virtualbox :( [16:51] please can someone advise on a laptop not rebooting properly in lubuntu? [16:51] Gl4di4t0r: that should be fixed, let me go find the bug. [16:53] garbonzo, ping [16:53] garbonzo, explain further [16:53] Gl4di4t0r, it is working in VB [16:53] hi ahmuck. it's an ancient toughbook cf-18, graphics driver i915 [16:53] when i reboot it does the shutdown part properly, just doesn't restart [16:54] Gl4di4t0r: bug 1380005 [16:54] bug 1380005 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "Graphical server of Ubuntu 14.10 daily build does not start in Virtualbox" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1380005 [16:54] garbonzo, version? [16:54] I rest my case ;) [16:54] 14.04 [16:55] garbonzo, upgrading an option? [16:56] to 14.10 or a new laptop? :-) [16:56] to 14.10 :) [16:56] could do i suppose [16:56] what's the distro upgrade command again? getting old ;-) [16:56] sometimes I found rather than fighting a problem trying the newer release will fix something [16:57] very true [16:57] granted, it sometimes breaks things as well [16:57] that's half the fun [16:58] garbonzo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_last_release :) [16:59] just waiting for the fat lady to sing :D [17:00] right, here goes nuffink. will see you all on the other side of the distro upgrade! [17:04] is there a reset to defaults options on xfce power manager? [17:04] or for that mattter, any program? [17:05] syntax in bash... i have a txt file that is a list of links i want to open in firefox.. [17:05] for i in test2.txt; do firefox i [17:05] that is wrong obivously [17:06] cause it just opens 'i' lol [17:14] no joy... [17:15] ...when's 14.10 out please? [17:16] Sometime later today [17:16] excellent [17:16] And... we're live!!! [17:16] wow, that's it ready then? [17:17] yup [17:17] congrats, well done and all that [17:17] just doing the housework [17:17] heh, already have it installed [17:17] :p [17:26] has lubuntu always installed humanity-icon-theme? [17:28] think so [17:30] when i wake up my pc, nm-applet says that network is deactivated, but service networking is running, how to solve it? [17:31] odd, i'm on the same release and i often move between sections of town and never have to re-activate my network, it's like i never left [17:31] zy3pD, version? [17:32] Ahmuck, 14.04 [17:32] the network service is running though? [17:34] ghost message? after coming out of suspend the message still gets sent? [17:34] bbl, checking snail mail [17:39] can some one idiot check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu for me. had to add in 14.04 LTS !! [17:45] defo showing the 14.10 page version [17:46] how long before software updater picks it up, assuming i've set it to notify immediately? [17:58] update notifier usually trips in the early hours as a job. you can manually ask for an update [17:59] garbonzo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_last_release [17:59] 14.10 is running in Vbox as I type [17:59] yup, i did the cli command and it returned that no new release was available [18:00] Ahmuck: it was fixed, I chased the failure in virt-manager (KVM) [18:00] garbonzo: then things have not fully filtered through yet. be patient :) [18:01] what is this "patient" of which you speak? :-) [18:01] does not appear to be anything new [18:01] something i would like to see, is software selection upon install [18:01] for example, i dump abiword and gnumeric in favor of libreoffice [18:02] what if you uninstall them, it says remove lubuntu-desktop [18:02] what then happens, i dont know [18:02] would be great to have that as a software preferences profile on a usb stick... [18:03] i do anyway [18:03] joppe, [18:03] yes [18:04] garbonzo, software preferences as in software selection preferences or software config preferences and data? [18:09] x /home/user/.config [18:09] more the software selection... would be good to always have, for example, focuswriter, geany, xchat, build-essentials... [18:09] x /home/user/.local [18:09] upon installation [18:10] i have a script that i run that purges "junk" and installs my "stuff" [18:10] after install [18:10] but having it pre install would be nice [18:12] something i would like to see and am hoping to instigate is a more standards compliant distro. be it via modification scripts or otherwise. you would have a script for each program (ie firefox) that would put the configs in /home/user/.config, the data in /home/user/.local/app, user icons in /home/user/.icons, etc. [18:12] as well as system wide configs in system wide config directories according to accepted standards [18:14] cool [18:15] software really needs more transparency and configurability in these areas by putting the configs and data back into the hands of the user where they can find them easily [18:18] well my question is, if i remove some programs it says remove lubuntu-desktop, what it means? [18:23] i've done it without problems [18:24] which is not to say you might have problems, simply i've always done it without problems [18:24] so ican remove transmission, because im usin qbittorrent, its safe? [18:27] like i said, it did not change anything for me. are you familiar with aptitude? i use aptitude to see what it removes. [18:27] well i remove via command line and bleachbit does rest :) [18:31] i wish i had something like that to set configuration for major programs === Unit193 changed the topic of #lubuntu to: Lubuntu Docs: http://tinyurl.com/LubuntuHelp | Lubuntu 14.10 is out: http://tinyurl.com/GetLubuntu | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | About: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | Offtopic: #lubuntu-offtopic [20:09] Hello, I have this screen popping up before booting on a macbook 1,1 (Tech specs here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook/specs/macbook_2.0_white.html ), the error message is here: http://i.imgur.com/Mst8esn.jpg?1 , http://i.imgur.com/4uNGE2C.jpg?1 is this anything I should be concerned about? I have had one hard freeze since using this operating system. [20:09] I'm running lubuntu 14.04.1 [20:10] Gamara_ : you might want to talk to wxl [20:10] someone needs mac help? [20:10] he is our mac expert ;) [20:11] yeah I was just curious about this error message I'm getting at boot would you like to repost the information? [20:11] like me* [20:11] i see [20:12] i wouldn't be too concerned Gamara_ [20:12] which version Gamara_ ? [20:12] lubuntu 14.04.1 [20:12] is what I'm currently usng [20:12] using* [20:13] Gamara_: when the freeze happened did you run out of resources? could you get to a virtual terminal? [20:13] I didn't try [20:14] The laptop currently has 2gb of ram [20:14] not 512 [20:14] I just hard reset it I really should learn how to shut it down properly on hard freeze [20:16] Gamara_: you should monitor whether or not you're running out of cpu or ram. you should also watch temperatures and see if that's the problem. if you do get a freeze, you should try using virtual terminals and/or ssh to see if the machine is still alive. if it is, restarting the lightdm service should get you a working gui again. at that point, you should check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors. might be a driver issue. [20:16] Gamara_: if you can narrow it down to a particular problem, then you can run ubuntu-bug against it. might want to see if /var/log/syslog or dmesg has any errors in it. that may help. [20:17] how do I do this sorry I'm pretty noob with ubuntu/lubuntu [20:18] Gamara_: you can use indicators in lxpanel to tell you about cpu and ram and temperature [20:18] and thank you for the help it is much appreciated [20:19] Gamara_: virtual terminals can be accessed typically with ctrl-alt-f1. i think on mac that's ctrl-fn-command-f1 or something of the sort. you have to play around with it [20:19] alright I will try it out [20:20] Gamara_: these terminals exists outside the graphical context so if you CAN get a working terminal, you have a problem with the GUI [20:20] Gamara_: that's usually a driver problem [20:20] it is ctrl-alt-fn-f1 [20:21] Gamara_: as a general rule, everything logs to /var/log [20:21] Gamara_: syslog and dmesg cover general system issues [20:21] Gamara_: Xorg.0.log is specifically about the x server (the gui) [20:21] Gamara_: you also might look in /var/crash [20:21] alright what command do I use to exit virtual terminal [20:22] Gamara_: go to virtual terminal 7 [20:22] Gamara_: note that if you are maxing out your cpu, your temperatures will usually go up and in the case of a laptop, this often means a total freeze and/or hard shutdown [20:23] what do you suggest the best widget/application for monitoring temperature is? [20:23] Gamara_: if you max out ram you can either get the out of memory killer (apparently) randomly shutting down processes or you can get what seems like a total freeze [20:23] Gamara_: whatever's in lxpanel is usually sufficient [20:23] alright thanks [20:24] Gamara_: also the task manager can give you a good sense of things [20:29] alright so look at, /var/crash, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, dmesg for errors after a hard freeze or right now? If I narrow it down I can post it to ubuntu bug report or whatever its called [20:30] Gamara_: yes. if you need help with interpreting them, let us know. and the tool is "ubuntu-bug" [20:30] !bugs | Gamara_ [20:30] Gamara_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [20:30] i wonder [20:30] !logs [20:30] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. [20:30] no no [20:31] !logfiles [20:31] nope [20:31] !log [20:31] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. [20:31] bah [20:31] here Gamara_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles [20:31] ok ok thanks [20:31] ha ha [20:35] I turned on the lxpanel temperature monitor and im getting -273 C lol [21:11] ok my computer is being weird mouse moves around but is stuck as a hand gripped, I cant click on anything [21:12] this all happened after try to drag a file out of extractor or whatever that app is called [21:12] I cant click anything and the keyboard doesnt seem to be working [21:12] how do I shut down my computer from virtual terminal [21:12] on 14.04 [21:14] Gamara_: get a terminal session running https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [21:14] nvm im dumb [21:14] fixed it [21:14] kk :) [21:14] ty though [22:02] I have 4 workspaces. I click CTRL+ALT+<- or CTRL+ALT+-> to switch to an adjacent workspace. How do I jump to a specific workspace? [22:34] hi [22:35] hows it goin dust [22:35] any idea why it isnt possible to receive files here in irc with pidgin? [22:36] after a working upgrade always better :D [23:53] took over an hour on this old clunker, but now running the new release. Thanks devs!