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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 12:50 |
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| didrocks | hey seb128! | 12:50 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 12:51 |
| TheMuso | I'll say good morning over IRC because I cannot see where you folks are. :p | 12:51 |
| didrocks | some of us are on a standing desk | 12:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, larsu, can you look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8632284/ if you have any idea about what the issue could be? it's an hang of unity8-dash | 12:51 |
| seb128 | I'm in the "what can land in rtm" session | 12:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, is bug #1384357 fixed yet? ;-) | 12:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1384357 in ubuntu-keyboard "Clearing text entry doesn't work (the text is restored directly)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384357 | 12:53 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it was never broken. You just imagined it | 12:59 |
| larsu | greyback: there's *a lot* of threads in there... | 13:09 |
| larsu | greyback: do you know if they share the dbus-1 connection? | 13:09 |
| larsu | it's known to not work well (or at all) with multiple threads | 13:10 |
| larsu | greyback: it is... | 13:11 |
| larsu | can you turn that off? | 13:11 |
| willcooke | seb128, can you ask didrocks to send me that link to the wiki? | 14:15 |
| seb128 | willcooke, done | 14:16 |
| didrocks | willcooke: seems my IRC timed out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Desktop | 14:16 |
| didrocks | willcooke: look as well at the "known issues" section (there is already a lightdm content) | 14:17 |
| willcooke | thx | 14:18 |
| didrocks | yw! | 14:20 |
| desrt | greyback: hey... i figured out the issue | 14:22 |
| desrt | greyback: it's pretty complicated -- we need to talk | 14:22 |
| desrt | i think we can fix it by changing the client-side code of networkmanager stuff in the dash | 14:23 |
| desrt | but it's a tricky general problem that's difficult to avoid and there could be other instances of it | 14:23 |
| desrt | greyback: long story short is that you cannot create the new network manager access point objects on the spot after receiving the DeviceAdded signal | 14:24 |
| desrt | because the dbus connection recursive lock is held at this point | 14:25 |
| desrt | and entering QtDBus with that lock held means that you risk an inversion | 14:25 |
| desrt | since QtDbus will first try to acquire its own lock before attempting to (re)acquire the dbus lock in the same thread | 14:25 |
| desrt | meanwhile on the same thread, the locks are acquired in the other order: Qt first, then dbus internal recursive lock | 14:25 |
| desrt | so we need to create the new objects from a place where no lock is held -- ie: from an idle dispatch or something | 14:26 |
| desrt | kinda bad architecture from libdbus-1 made worse by some questionable locking practice inside of QtDbus | 14:26 |
| desrt | greyback_: you missed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8641209/ | 14:27 |
| Laney | jibel: are you in the QA room? | 14:32 |
| Laney | I want to come nick a copy of the candidate image from you on a USB stick if possible :) | 14:33 |
| Laney | slow download is slow | 14:33 |
| jibel | Laney, I'm in the release team room | 14:38 |
| Laney | ah, the dungeon of doom | 14:39 |
| Laney | actually it looks like my stick isn't big enough :( | 14:40 |
| Laney | NO RUDE JOKES PLEASE | 14:40 |
| mvo | Laney: right… | 14:41 |
| * Laney stares at mvo | 14:41 | |
| Laney | jibel: willcooke gave me a bigger one, I'm comingdown to grab a copy | 14:44 |
| willcooke | this stuff just writes itself | 14:44 |
| greyback_ | desrt: thanks for the paste, I did miss it | 15:13 |
| seb128 | desrt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+filebug | 15:19 |
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| seb128 | larsu, Laney: seems like the overlay scrollbars session just vanished from the schedule | 15:59 |
| Laney | seb128: we saw, asking msm now | 16:02 |
| Laney | seb128: is willcooke close to you? | 16:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, sitting together in a session, why? | 16:03 |
| Laney | asking if he knew/asked for it to be changed | 16:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, our guess is that JohnLea is not available and deleted the event from the calendar without letting anyone know, but it's a guess | 16:03 |
| Laney | ok | 16:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, he doesn't know | 16:04 |
| Laney | so if they don't care> up to us. NICE. | 16:04 |
| seb128 | yeah | 16:06 |
| willcooke | Laney, I'm done testing the 32bit desktop image. Ran live and installed, did "some stuff" in it - no problems found | 16:09 |
| willcooke | can you tick it off for me? | 16:09 |
| Laney | yeah me too | 16:10 |
| Laney | Don't know if jibel had some more testing to do | 16:11 |
| jibel | Laney, nothing more from me. I covered most of the case excepted installation in VMWare which requires a windows machine. | 16:14 |
| jibel | *cases | 16:14 |
| Laney | cool, fine by me | 16:14 |
| Laney | done | 16:14 |
| willcooke | thx Laney | 16:24 |
| seb128 | tiheum, hey, do you have a recommendation on what icon we should be using for battery in the touch settings grid? | 17:32 |
| desrt | cyphermox: i'm working on the connection-type patch fwiw | 17:53 |
| desrt | just a heads-up so we don't do each others work :) | 17:53 |
| cyphermox | don't spend too much time on it, you have next to nothing to do | 17:53 |
| cyphermox | there is nothing to do in NM... | 17:53 |
| desrt | it's a pretty simple patch | 17:53 |
| desrt | i'm already nearly done -- writing docs now :) | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | patch where? | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | as above, there is no patch necessary in NM :) | 17:54 |
| desrt | there is | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | nop | 17:54 |
| desrt | i've been chatting with dcbw about what it should look like | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | PrimaryConnection | 17:54 |
| desrt | i want PrimaryConnectionType though | 17:54 |
| desrt | and this is what i'm adding | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | alright | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | knock yourself out then ;) | 17:54 |
| cyphermox | desrt: mine is already finished; so I'll be happy to review too when you're done | 17:56 |
| desrt | cyphermox: where is your patch? in unity? | 17:56 |
| desrt | or the other thing you were talking about earlier? | 17:56 |
| cyphermox | yes, the other thing | 17:56 |
| cyphermox | wireless power saving | 17:57 |
| cyphermox | desrt: are you basing your patch on git master or 0.9.8.8? | 18:08 |
| desrt | master | 18:08 |
| desrt | it'll backport cleanly, i'm sure | 18:09 |
| cyphermox | alrighty :) | 18:11 |
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| desrt | cyphermox: hey... i'm having some trouble backporting this patch | 18:44 |
| cyphermox | yeah? | 18:44 |
| cyphermox | should I come by? | 18:44 |
| desrt | maybe. i think i might have found the relevent piece just now | 18:45 |
| cyphermox | I could use a bit of walking, my back is killing me | 18:45 |
| desrt | basically, it seems that there is no connection_type accessor on the connection object in our NM version | 18:45 |
| desrt | come to say hi, then :) | 18:45 |
| desrt | cyphermox: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/144680/14140904/ | 18:54 |
| cyphermox | shiny | 18:56 |
| Laney | who knows about the new GtkGesture stuff in 3.14? | 18:59 |
| Laney | vs. libgrip | 18:59 |
| Laney | does this obsolete it? | 18:59 |
| didrocks | Laney: stop it! :) | 19:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, bregma | 19:00 |
| cyphermox | desrt: do you have an ubuntu bug for this? | 19:07 |
| desrt | yes-ish | 19:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, you can probably try on desrt's laptop, he has a touch screen and current gtk | 19:09 |
| seb128 | so you should be able to see how pinching, etc is working | 19:09 |
| desrt | cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1384776 | 19:11 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1384776 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Occasional hang in unity 8 dash on the phone" [Undecided,New] | 19:11 |
| desrt | cyphermox: this is the closest we have | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | that's good enough, I'll just add a network-manager task | 19:11 |
| cyphermox | there is still work needed in unity8 in this case, correct? | 19:12 |
| desrt | cyphermox: yes. | 19:15 |
| desrt | i will talk to albert about this | 19:15 |
| cyphermox | alright | 19:16 |
| cyphermox | so far so good, works fine here | 19:16 |
| cyphermox | i'll try wired later | 19:16 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3__, that missing depends was a result of autopilot getting removed from the image yesterday | 19:21 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3__, i filed a bug and it's being fixed | 19:22 |
| Laney | seb128: good idea | 19:24 |
| desrt | larsu: http://ur1.ca/ii3sw | 19:59 |
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| desrt | larsu: keeping this patch up to date is probably going to be a bit annoying... | 20:00 |
| desrt | since we can't backport mir fixes properly... | 20:00 |
| larsu | desrt: up to date in gtk master? | 20:01 |
| larsu | thanks | 20:01 |
| desrt | i mean we're probably going to be making fixes in gtk master this cycle | 20:01 |
| desrt | getting those fixes backported into the package will be annoying | 20:01 |
| larsu | we probably won't backport fixes in the backend api | 20:02 |
| ochosi | i know this might be a bit early to ask, but what are you guys planning with respect to gtkheaderbars? | 20:03 |
| ochosi | (in 15.04, that is) | 20:03 |
| desrt | ochosi: LOVE | 20:03 |
| ochosi | :] | 20:03 |
| ochosi | no i mean seriously, i presume patching them out for every gtk3 release won't be much fun | 20:05 |
| Laney | there's an approach like we did for evince of treating them like toolbars and adding the decorations back | 20:05 |
| larsu | desrt: nice shirt | 20:06 |
| larsu | ochosi: there aren't any plans to have apps with headerbars right now | 20:07 |
| larsu | so we'll keep patching like Laney said | 20:07 |
| ochosi | right | 20:07 |
| ochosi | good to know | 20:07 |
| Laney | I personally think we should take them though, but there are a couple of arguments against | 20:08 |
| Laney | ... | 20:08 |
| * Laney walks off | 20:08 | |
| ochosi | i guess both taking them and keeping up the patching creates headaches | 20:10 |
| larsu | ochosi: thats what we're doing though. The patches check for !GNOME | 20:23 |
| ochosi | larsu: i know, and i would never complain about it. we're benefitting from that in xubuntu ;) | 20:24 |
| desrt | cyphermox: your PPA version is working great | 20:31 |
| desrt | at least as far as the property is concerned :) | 20:31 |
| cyphermox | awesome | 20:31 |
| cyphermox | it's in silo RTM 14 now | 20:31 |
| cyphermox | or rather, it's building | 20:31 |
| desrt | i don't know what that means, but it sounds nice :) | 20:31 |
| cyphermox | means I'll land it in RTM soonish | 20:31 |
| cyphermox | depends a lot more on build time and QA testing time than anything else | 20:32 |
| desrt | i guess this is out-of-band with utopic | 20:32 |
| cyphermox | yes | 20:33 |
| desrt | since as of today we're in SRU land there | 20:33 |
| cyphermox | won't land in utopic, this will go in V | 20:33 |
| desrt | sounds good | 20:33 |
| desrt | session time -- gotta run | 20:33 |
| cyphermox | unless you explicitly need that as an SRU in utopic, in which case I'll get just that patch SRUd | 20:33 |
| desrt | larsu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1384776 | 20:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1384776 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Occasional hang in unity 8 dash on the phone" [High,In progress] | 20:34 |
| desrt | cyphermox: this is not useful for utopic | 20:34 |
| desrt | at least not for ubuntu-desktop | 20:34 |
| cyphermox | that's what I thought | 20:34 |
| desrt | larsu: looks like Saviq is on the case :) | 20:37 |
| Saviq | desrt, I am? ;) | 20:37 |
| desrt | Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1384776 has the patched NetworkManager fwiw | 20:37 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1384776 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Occasional hang in unity 8 dash on the phone" [High,In progress] | 20:37 |
| desrt | erm. | 20:38 |
| desrt | https://launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+archive/ubuntu/nv-build/+packages i mean | 20:38 |
| desrt | mispaste | 20:38 |
| Saviq | greyback, ↑ | 20:38 |
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| tiheum | seb128: hi, you can use a white version of the battery indicator https://code.launchpad.net/~tiheum/ubuntu-themes/new-indicators | 21:00 |
| seb128 | tiheum, is that in the current rtm package? | 21:01 |
| Laney | Job: gtk+3.0_3.14.3-0ubuntu1.dsc | 21:42 |
| Laney | Machine Architecture: amd64 | 21:42 |
| Laney | Package: gtk+3.0 | 21:42 |
| Laney | Package-Time: 627 | 21:42 |
| Laney | Source-Version: 3.14.3-0ubuntu1 | 21:42 |
| Laney | Space: 864432 | 21:42 |
| Laney | Status: successful | 21:42 |
| Sweet5hark | didrocks: schnappi! | 21:47 |
| darkxst | Laney, how is your upstart foo? we seem to have an issue with shutdown which suppose could be caused by user session. basically gnome-shell is continually respawning | 21:50 |
| Laney | can't look now | 21:51 |
| darkxst | (after clicking shutdown/restart) | 21:51 |
| Laney | but dunno | 21:51 |
| Laney | you can make it verbose by editing the Xsession.d script to add --verbose | 21:51 |
| Laney | and redirect it to some file | 21:51 |
| Laney | then look at the output | 21:51 |
| didrocks | darkxst: he's telling sh**, he's singing right now and just slacking :) | 21:52 |
| Sweet5hark | .oO(schnauze schnappi) | 21:53 |
| darkxst | Laney, which script do I add that to? I don't see anything upstart in Xsession.d | 21:55 |
| TheMuso | darkxst: There is a 99upstart file, not sure if thats the one Laney is referring to... | 21:58 |
| didrocks | darkxst: Laney tells: « it's the one that says STARTUP="init --user" or so » | 22:02 |
| darkxst | oh yes, I was look in the wrong folder | 22:02 |
| didrocks | but he's too lazy to go on the other side on the table | 22:03 |
| darkxst | didrocks, ok | 22:08 |
| darkxst | upstart --user --verbose doesnt generate any output? where do the event logs go? | 22:35 |
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