[06:56] <mgedmin> today's ubuntugnome_utopic-desktop-i386.iso: has no visible mouse cursor in he try ubuntu/install ubuntu GUI (testing in KVM)
[06:58] <mgedmin> and then it hangs with a black screen
[07:03] <mgedmin> ctrl-alt-f1 shows me this: http://imgur.com/KktHg5p
[07:04] <mgedmin> I'm now booting the same image on real hardware (an asus eeepc 900)
[07:04] <mgedmin> it boots there
[07:05] <mgedmin> and mouse cursor is visible
[07:13] <mgedmin> the eeepc is amazingly slow
[07:17] <mgedmin> wheee I made gnome-shell crash by pressing ctrl-alt-esc (in my main work laptop running 14.04 + ppa)
[07:19] <mgedmin> back to the asus: the install screen doesn't fit in 1024x600, luckily I know about alt-dragging
[07:21] <Noskcaj> darkxst, ricotz: Since my internet is too bad to, could one of you please sync gnome-user-docs and gnome-getting-started-docs to the staging PPA?
[07:22] <Noskcaj> Also, it would be nice if we merged gnome-user-share eventually
[08:04] <mgedmin> looks like the postinst script for software-center needs more ram than the 1 gig my asus eeepc 900 has :(
[08:04] <mgedmin> it's sitting there doing i/o like mad with mouse cursor barely moving
[08:20] <mgedmin> it got through!  took exactly 30 minutes
[08:20] <mgedmin> maybe the disk is just slow (which it is, this asus eeepc has horrible SSDs)
[09:13] <ricotz> Noskcaj, will do
[09:14] <Noskcaj> ty
[09:33] <ricotz> Noskcaj, gnome-getting-started-docs is getting quite a beast with 120+MB
[10:20] <mgedmin> does anybody know which component is handling ctrl+shift+u XXXX unicode input?  is it gtk+ itself or is it ibus?
[11:09] <mgedmin> why is spamassassin's spamd (or at least its init script) on the livecd?  dependency of evolution or something?
[11:50] <psrb> hi, is ubuntu gnome 14.10 going to ship gnome-shell 3.12 or 3.14?
[11:52] <mgedmin> 3.12
[11:52] <mgedmin> there will be a ppa with 3.14
[11:52] <mgedmin> btw you can always check versions yourself with http://packages.ubuntu.com/gnome-shell
[11:53] <mgedmin> and for the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging?field.series_filter=utopic
[11:53] <psrb> thanks
[15:38] <phillip> when will 14.10 release?
[17:38] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i just tried out a test install of 14.10 on a laptop...i don't know if anyone else experienced it but i definitely hit a snag that's worth mentioning...in my case at least, when trying to launch "Backups" (deja-dup) it causes some sort of general protection fault in gnome-control-panel...so if you backup with deja-dup you'd have to find a workaround for the moment :(
[20:10] <gpoo> I wonder if there are known issues with gdm in 14.04.  I could not start a service because it could not load the drm and the intel driver.
[20:10] <gpoo> when I updated the version of gdm (from gnome3-team/stable), it passes that stage but it failed to show the greeter
[20:11] <gpoo> because of lack of permissions in gdm-loadenviroment (iirc)
[20:11] <gpoo> only once I booted with init=/lib/systemd/systemd gdm worked fine
[20:12] <gpoo> not a big deal, but I only found a hint in debian bugs, which was strange to me, considering the usual amount of information about ubuntu
[20:13] <gpoo> has anyone else experienced a similar issue?
[21:11] <darkxst> gpoo, I havent heard of that issue before
[21:22] <gpoo> it might be something local
[21:22] <gpoo> so far I was happy with lightdm, so I never gave a try to the new gdm.  But now that notifications are set on every time I reboot, I was trying to narrow the issue.
[21:25] <JoeyUG> anyone tried to upgrade to gnome 3.14?
[21:26] <gpoo> I am on that
[21:44] <darkxst> gpoo, some intel cards have issues with drm when using kms driver, but in that case gnome-shell wouldnt work either
[23:35] <gpoo> darkxst: I was puzzled because of the same reason.  But gdm from gnome3-team/stable did not have the problem with drm, just the permissions to run the greeter.  So, I thought the default gdm in 14.10 maybe was not quite ready.
[23:37] <gpoo> btw, this is the bug that was kind of similar to what I was seeing: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724731
[23:38] <gpoo> the message #48 suggested to try to boot with "init=/lib/systemd/systemd"
[23:38] <gpoo> which made it work
[23:39] <gpoo> I checked libsystemd-pam, too, but that looked ok
[23:39] <gpoo> brb
[23:44] <gpoo> 3.14... but still my settings (notifications off) is reset after reboot :-/
[23:45] <gpoo> and I got bitten but a bug in the intel driver to render shadows
[23:48] <gpoo> unfortunately this commit did not make it: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=wip/pango-shadow-cache&id=e663a1f0d8cf2173ffb1d1bbb51b0282dbfc428e