[00:13] <carneous> anyone using nfs with 14.10? mine is hanging and a friend reports on a different distro his was problematic until he went kernel 3.16.3 -> 3.16.4
[00:15] <carneous> oh, and oops in kern.log with traces to nfs functions
[00:22] <kewl_> we're using 3.13.0-37-generic and are having a real issue with network activity spiking around 4 PM every day. Not sure if it is a NFS issue. We're having lots of failed connection attempts from various low port numbers ... something seems to be scanning across them trying to send messages. Stack trace of 100% kworker process here: http://pastebin.com/umm58ZSW
[00:23] <kewl_> All of this failed connection activity is loopback, I forgot to mention.
[00:37] <carneous> same issue 3.16.6 mainline :/
[00:59] <carneous> working fine again 3.14.22 mainline
[06:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:53] <cyber_dweller> why does isc-dhcp drops messages to syslog even after :programname,isequal,"dhcpd" /var/log/dhcpd
[09:54] <cyber_dweller> why does isc-dhcp drops messages to syslog even after i've redirected it in rsyslog with,  :programname,isequal,"dhcpd" /var/log/dhcpd
[09:55] <cyber_dweller> rsyslog creates /var/log/dhcpd and writes to it, message still apears in syslog
[10:06] <cyber_dweller> why does isc-dhcp writes messages to syslog even after i've redirected it in rsyslog with,  ":programname,isequal,"dhcpd" /var/log/dhcpd",  rsyslog creates /var/log/dhcpd and writes to it, message still apears in syslog, what is happening, is it a bug in rsyslog?
[11:44] <ochoroch> lordievader: daily update: Moved 1 VM from HyperV to Virtualbox, issue gone / VM is working.
[11:44] <ochoroch> Conclusion: HyperV is SHIT! ....
[11:44] <lordievader> Heh, what do you know... Nice though.
[11:46] <ochoroch> Basically, HyperVs backups kills Ubuntu <-- needs more testing but i'm szre ...
[11:46] <ochoroch> sure..
[11:50] <lordievader> ochoroch: If it needs more testing you are not sure ;)
[11:56] <ochoroch> lordievader: true ...
[11:56] <ochoroch> at least im sure its running well on Virtualbox ...
[13:10] <Aison0> i upgrade from precise to trusty and now apache2 is no longer working. I already change to Require all granted
[13:10] <Aison0> but the problem looks more fundamental. VirtualHosts are no longer recognized at all
[13:11] <Aison0> eg. go to www.alvhaus.ch
[13:11] <Aison0> then it shows the default site instead of the right page
[13:13] <sarnold_> Aison0: a lot changed between apache 2.2 and apache 2.4. your best bet is to read the logs, read the docs, read the logs, read the docs, etc :)
[13:14] <Aison0> sarnold_, there is NOTHING in the logs :)
[13:14] <Aison0> when I access the server, I don't s see something in error.log
[13:14] <sarnold_> Aison0: ah :) that complicates things significantly
[13:27] <kpettit> Goodmoring.  Any suggestion for a good external backup service that works well with Ubuntu that's fairly cheap for backup in the TB range?
[13:37] <ochoroch> kpettit: you want a backup server, not a backup Software?
[13:39] <kpettit> Yeah.  Trying to find cheap external backup kind of storage.  I'm looking at crashplan, spideroak and rsync.net
[13:40] <sarnold_> kpettit: also check out tarsnap and doing your own amazon glacier thing
[13:40] <kpettit> I'm trying to find the magic combo of cost effective, works on Linux/Windows/Mac, etc, etc
[13:40] <ochoroch> kpettit: ok ... if you have your own Hardware to do Backups on you can use BackupPC ... which i like to use for doing backups ...
[13:40] <lordievader> Dirvish \o/
[13:40] <kpettit> I've got rackspace cloud and their added storage isn't too much.  I'm just lazy and want something that's easy to scale that I don't have to mess with much
[13:47] <igalic> hello happy people o/~
[13:47] <igalic> i'm having issues
[13:48] <igalic> with preseed, in particular: i'm pointing it to a mirror / directory that my isp runs, and it's unable to find a Release file.
[14:03] <igalic> brain fart: i inserted ubuntu instead of trusty -- in the wrong kind of places....
[14:04] <sarnold_> woo :)
[14:05] <igalic> still thining this is true, though: https://twitter.com/hirojin/status/525283520475070465
[14:06] <sarnold_> .. mostly because the great a'tuin doesn't yet know about maas or juju
[14:07] <igalic> juju feels icky.
[14:24] <igalic> current status: it does everything up to the point where it's supposed to install our package list. that fails because of reasons. reason being that it doesn't /actually/ setup any of our extra repos (apt.puppetlabs.com and our internal repo)
[14:26] <cemc_> hi. I've isntalled 14.04.1 server in a VM in virtualbox, had two ethernet devices (eth0, eth1). networking worked just fine. after that, I copied the system to a physical machine, with 3 NICs. on ubuntu they don't show up as eth0,1,2 and I don't have the file 70-persistent-net.rules as before on 12.04 or 10.04. how can I generate that file?
[14:27] <rbasak> cemc_: that might be some interaction with biosdevname, if that helps your searching.
[14:28] <sarnold_> cemc_: mine says in part /lib/udev/write_net_rules and persistent-net-generator.rules
[14:29] <sarnold_> biosdevname will probably wreck the eth0/1/2 that you're used to but it might bring benefits that justify it..
[14:29] <kewl_> we're using 3.13.0-37-generic and are having a real issue with network activity spiking around 4 PM every day. Not sure if it is a NFS issue. We're having lots of failed connection attempts from various low port numbers ... something seems to be scanning across them trying to send messages. Stack trace of 100% kworker process here: http://pastebin.com/umm58ZSW
[14:29] <kewl_> All of this failed connection activity is loopback, I forgot to mention.
[14:29] <kewl_> UPDATE: This activity is a set of failed TURN requests.
[14:29] <cemc_> sarnold_, rbasak my first confusion is, why is there no 70-persistent-net.rules file at all ?
[14:29] <sarnold_> cemc_: no idea
[14:32] <rbasak> cemc_: I don't know. I wonder if it's suppressed if biosdevname is in use (which is BIOS-dependent)
[14:35] <igalic> of course. they have to be ordered. i always forget about that. apt-setup/local0/* that is.
[14:52] <Azaril> hey
[14:52] <Azaril> is there a reason precise nginx package doesn't allow nginx-extras?
[14:53] <igalic> joy. can't install linux-tools, because they depend on linux-image-extra, which apparently has a postinstall script that depends on upstart running...
[14:55] <teward> Azaril: yeah, it's old
[14:55] <Azaril> o
[14:55] <Azaril> ok
[14:55] <teward> Azaril: closer to Trusty release, Debian updated the `nginx` metapackage to depend on any of the variants
[14:55] <Azaril> is there a way i can override that
[14:56] <teward> Azaril: `sudo apt-get install nginx-extras nginx-common`
[14:56] <Azaril> without rebuilding the nginx package
[14:56] <Azaril> ok
[14:56] <Azaril> i get that
[14:56] <teward> Azaril: you don't need the `nginx` package, it's just a metapackage that points at the other nginx packages
[14:56] <Azaril> but my puppet module doesnt like it
[14:56] <teward> then puppet is evil.
[14:56] <Azaril> haha
[14:56] <teward> Azaril: alternative: use the PPA
[14:56] <cemc_> sarnold_, rbasak found it, thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219332
[14:56] <teward> hate to recommend it but...
[14:56] <Azaril> no its just i dont want to have rewrite it to fix what ever config some previous sysadmin did :P
[14:57] <teward> ooooo so you inherited junk
[14:57] <Azaril> sooo much junk
[14:57] <teward> (sorry i'm a little annoyed at the world today, forgive me for being a bit harsher than normal)
[14:57] <Azaril> haha
[14:57] <Azaril> you dont have to deal with these servers mate :P
[14:57] <teward> Azaril: short of manual removal of `nginx` and instead `sudo apt-get install nginx-extras nginx-common` or using an updated package like in the https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable (NGINX Stable PPA)...
[14:58] <teward> i don't see how you can solve that.
[14:58] <Azaril> ive spent the past 3 months trying to fix these servers and i am still constantly surpised that half this stuff works
[14:58] <teward> !info nginx precise
[14:58] <teward> booo ubottu
[14:58] <Azaril> for my custom compiled modules i fixed it myself
[14:58] <sarnold_> cemc_: I'm still confused :)
[14:58] <teward> urgh, 1.1.19...
[14:58] <Azaril> ok
[14:58] <Azaril> yeah i know
[14:58] <Azaril> so old
[14:58] <teward> Azaril: yeah that's almost ancient
[14:59] <Azaril> sadly my xen server version doesnt support trusty
[14:59] <Azaril> who uses xen server anyway right?
[14:59] <cemc_> sarnold_: :)
[15:12] <igalic> hrm... still trying to install linux-image-extra... so it's not my fault :|
[15:18] <igalic> wtf. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1317602
[15:20] <igalic> (none of those workarounds make any sense)
[15:36] <rberg> doesnt support? thats odd, what needs to be supported? make fstab use xvda and make getty spawn a login on hvc0 then allow root login on hvc0.. what else?
[17:10] <namredips> So I have been trying to get an unattended pxe boot deployment to work for a while, but I can’t seem to the installer to auto select the network interface. Any ideas?
[17:10] <namredips> Have this in the preseed: d-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto
[17:10] <rbasak> namredips: are you trying to preseed network interface selection? If so, how are you fetching the preseed? Over the network?
[17:11] <namredips> rbasak: yea… via cobbler
[17:11] <rbasak> namredips: to fix that chicken-and-egg problem, preseeds can also be specified via the kernel command line. I don't remember the exact syntax though.
[17:11] <namredips> hmmm
[17:12] <namredips> rbasak: obvious, but very pertinant thought…
[17:12] <namredips> rbasak: I recently moved from MAAS to cobbler, didn’t even thing about that. Since I suspsect MAAS handled it all without me knowing
[17:13] <namredips> rbasak: thanks!
[17:13] <namredips> rbasak: gives me at least a direction to look
[17:13] <rbasak> No problem.
[17:22] <namredips> rbasak: that did it, its always the obvious ones that kill so much of my time :)
[18:38] <jamespage> zul, smoser, hallyn_, beisner, coreycb, kickinz1, gnuoy, matsubara, rharper, lutostag, roaksoax: nice work guys!
[18:38] <jamespage> anyone I missed?
[18:38] <jamespage> dosaboy, you to!
[18:39]  * smoser was wondering last night if it'd be possible to get a "contributors" list.
[18:39] <smoser> jamespage, you missed rbasak
[18:39] <rharper> jamespage: awesome, great job too
[18:39] <smoser> woud'nt be too hard to pull utopic-changes
[18:41] <dosaboy> jamespage: tanks!
[18:41] <dosaboy> jamespage: likewise!
[19:12] <coreycb> jamespage, great job!
[19:14] <mediahome> hello
[19:15] <mediahome> i'm quite new on ubuntu server but will learn
[19:15] <mediahome> i have some questions maybe somebody could give me answers
[19:15] <sarnold_> welcome mediahome; if you haven't seen this yet, you might like to start here :) https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/
[19:15] <sarnold_> mediahome: sure..
[19:16] <mediahome> yes
[19:16] <mediahome> read a lot
[19:16] <mediahome> done a lot
[19:16] <mediahome> but its time for some good answers
[19:16] <sarnold_> :)
[19:17] <mediahome> will use 14.04 for home server
[19:17] <mediahome> tv server
[19:17] <mediahome> media server
[19:17] <mediahome> tv server every thing is cool
[19:17] <mediahome> media server not really
[19:18] <mediahome> samba in console is to heavy at the moment
[19:18] <mediahome> so i found swat
[19:18] <mediahome> but dont know if its really good
[19:19] <mediahome> doesn't kill the system like webmin
[19:19] <mediahome> and so on
[19:20] <mediahome> so do the prof server guys use swat
[19:20] <mediahome> or not
[19:21] <mediahome> i can't believe that bigger networks will be managed only by the console
[19:21] <mediahome> :-)
[19:21] <sarnold_> do not expose swat to untrusted network input; the samba team dropped it due to security concerns
[19:22] <mediahome> yes i read that
[19:22] <sarnold_> things get easier with terminal-based administration, it's easier to script around operations done hundreds or thousands of times..
[19:22] <mediahome> but for an new linux guy it might be heavy
[19:23] <mediahome> so there other options to manage ?
[19:23] <sarnold_> samba especially, the SMB protocols are horrible
[19:24] <mediahome> :-)
[19:27] <mediahome> why horrible
[19:28]  * lordievader mumbels something with windows...
[19:30] <sarnold_> mediahome: it's got multiple security models, none of which are great, and none of which really integrate well with linux.
[19:30] <sarnold_> mediahome: a few minutes reading https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages/smb.conf.5.html   oughtto convince you that it's miserable..
[19:33] <mediahome> ok so there are other options?
[19:34] <sarnold_> nfs works alright if you've got nothing but unix-ish machines :)
[19:35] <kpettit> mediahome: depends on what your sharing with.  I like plex.  So I run the plex media server on Ubuntu and share with my Roku, TV and mobiles.  Works great
[19:35] <mediahome> clients are windows machines
[19:35] <mediahome> so nfs not an option
[19:36] <kpettit> what types of files are you sharing?  Normal office docs or mainly movies/audio kind of thing?
[19:36] <mediahome> movies audio
[19:36] <mediahome> pictures
[19:36] <kpettit> plex is a good media only server.
[19:36] <mediahome> does plex do transcoding ?
[19:36] <kpettit> If you want simple you can also just use SSH and on windows get a SSHFS client that basically lets you may a Linux server you can ssh into as a drive letter
[19:36] <kpettit> yes it does
[19:37] <mediahome> ok not really like transcoding :-)
[19:37] <kpettit> what version of windows?
[19:37] <mediahome> 8.1
[19:37] <mediahome> windows 7
[19:38] <kpettit> Windows 7 and older you can use this to map any computer you can SSH into as a drive letter https://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/
[19:38] <kpettit> But it doesn't work well if at all on Windows 8.  There are other commercial ones that let you map stuff though.
[19:39] <kpettit> Really SMB should be the easiest way to go.  But if you can't use that for whatever reason just using SSH is another option, or like I mentioned plex media server.
[19:40] <mediahome> maybe i should read more and get smb to work :-)
[19:41] <kpettit> smb for windows on a home work is a no brainer best solution.  If your not used to the CLI stuff it can be painful.
[19:41] <kpettit> If you want a GUI to configure samba you can look at something called webmin which is a web GUI for tons of Linux stuff.
[19:41] <kpettit> Or you can just drudge your way through figuring it out.
[19:41] <Pici> !webmin
[19:42] <jrwren> mediahome: i use samba, it works great. Its easy to configure once you learn it. Just edit the smb.conf file. It is not hard.
[19:42] <kpettit> Yeah I wouldn't use webmin for everything but for basic stuff like samba it's ok.  It's always better if you can learn the CLI
[19:43] <mediahome> read a lot about webmin
[19:43] <mediahome> but nothing really good
[19:43] <jrwren> mediahome: I've used ubuntu with samba as a home file server for XBMC to play media for 7+years. It works very well.
[19:44] <kpettit> mediahome: Then your best choice is to start experimenting with Samba and give it a whirl.
[19:45] <mediahome> ok so i have to do what has to be done and get my lazy ass to get it work
[19:46] <kpettit> haha, you got it.
[19:46] <mediahome> thanks a lot
[19:46] <jamespage> sarnold, jdstrand: thanks for those MIR reviews today btw - much appreciated
[19:46] <sarnold_> jamespage: you're welcome :)
[19:47] <sarnold_> jamespage: sorry for the last-minute crossing the finish line results.. last few weeks have been hectic..
[19:49] <beisner> jamespage, thank you for the great work as well!
[19:49] <jamespage> oh forgot rbasak :-)
[19:52] <kpettit> mediahome: I just setup smb in about 5min.  If you've install samba installed you can use something like the following as a place to get you started http://pastebin.com/APjKaXxJ
[19:56] <mediahome> thanks
[19:56] <mediahome> will check it
[19:56] <kpettit> No problem that example will give you a all access share
[19:57] <kpettit> just change the path under allaccess to go to what you want to share.
[19:57] <kpettit> restart samba then you should be good to go.  I just tested that on a couple windows machines here and it worked great.  So that should do the trick for ya
[19:58] <jdstrand> jamespage: you're welcome. sorry for the delay. 99.9% of the thanks should go to sarnold_ though :)
[19:58] <mediahome> ok i will get it :-)
[20:14] <hardwire> Anybody else having issues installing 14.04 via UEFI?
[20:14] <hardwire> looks like it's trying to boot files that don't exist.. and when I attempt to load vmlinuz grub can't match the magic.
[20:14] <RoyK> just tried a couple of times worked
[20:16] <hardwire> might just be this laptop. Debian UEFI install works fine.
[20:16] <hardwire> But it seems like it's looking for stuff that doesn't exist.. had to capture video of it and slow it down so I could read it
[23:19] <Guest91863> Does anyone here use postfix or emix in a production environment or is dealing with spam and ensuring your outgoing mail isn't flagged as spam not worth the trouble?
[23:25] <Guest91863> Will EC2 instances or Azure instances running postfix or emix be flagged as spam?
[23:53] <ruben23> hi guys im copying a huge file between two ubuntu server that is remote from each other but reachable - file size (14845841920) any fastest way i can do this and wont timeout..?
[23:57] <alreece45> ruben23: I'd consider rsync. However FTP could be faster. Manual Compression may help. And using some sort of physical mover of information (a carrier pidgeon, a human, a bear) could prove very quick, depending on the distance