[00:13] anyone using nfs with 14.10? mine is hanging and a friend reports on a different distro his was problematic until he went kernel 3.16.3 -> 3.16.4 [00:15] oh, and oops in kern.log with traces to nfs functions [00:22] we're using 3.13.0-37-generic and are having a real issue with network activity spiking around 4 PM every day. Not sure if it is a NFS issue. We're having lots of failed connection attempts from various low port numbers ... something seems to be scanning across them trying to send messages. Stack trace of 100% kworker process here: http://pastebin.com/umm58ZSW [00:23] All of this failed connection activity is loopback, I forgot to mention. [00:37] same issue 3.16.6 mainline :/ [00:59] working fine again 3.14.22 mainline === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 === zz_satyag is now known as satyag === IdleOne is now known as Guest56782 [06:38] Good morning. === Tzunamii_ is now known as Tzunamii === kickinz1 is now known as kickinz1|afk === tjaalton_ is now known as tjaalton === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [09:53] why does isc-dhcp drops messages to syslog even after :programname,isequal,"dhcpd" /var/log/dhcpd [09:54] why does isc-dhcp drops messages to syslog even after i've redirected it in rsyslog with, :programname,isequal,"dhcpd" /var/log/dhcpd [09:55] rsyslog creates /var/log/dhcpd and writes to it, message still apears in syslog [10:06] why does isc-dhcp writes messages to syslog even after i've redirected it in rsyslog with, ":programname,isequal,"dhcpd" /var/log/dhcpd", rsyslog creates /var/log/dhcpd and writes to it, message still apears in syslog, what is happening, is it a bug in rsyslog? [11:44] lordievader: daily update: Moved 1 VM from HyperV to Virtualbox, issue gone / VM is working. [11:44] Conclusion: HyperV is SHIT! .... [11:44] Heh, what do you know... Nice though. [11:46] Basically, HyperVs backups kills Ubuntu <-- needs more testing but i'm szre ... [11:46] sure.. [11:50] ochoroch: If it needs more testing you are not sure ;) [11:56] lordievader: true ... [11:56] at least im sure its running well on Virtualbox ... === rrittenh1use is now known as rrittenhouse === beisner-afk is now known as beisner [13:10] i upgrade from precise to trusty and now apache2 is no longer working. I already change to Require all granted [13:10] but the problem looks more fundamental. VirtualHosts are no longer recognized at all [13:11] eg. go to www.alvhaus.ch [13:11] then it shows the default site instead of the right page [13:13] Aison0: a lot changed between apache 2.2 and apache 2.4. your best bet is to read the logs, read the docs, read the logs, read the docs, etc :) [13:14] sarnold_, there is NOTHING in the logs :) [13:14] when I access the server, I don't s see something in error.log [13:14] Aison0: ah :) that complicates things significantly === nath|off is now known as nathema === kpettit_ is now known as kpettit [13:27] Goodmoring. Any suggestion for a good external backup service that works well with Ubuntu that's fairly cheap for backup in the TB range? [13:37] kpettit: you want a backup server, not a backup Software? [13:39] Yeah. Trying to find cheap external backup kind of storage. I'm looking at crashplan, spideroak and rsync.net [13:40] kpettit: also check out tarsnap and doing your own amazon glacier thing [13:40] I'm trying to find the magic combo of cost effective, works on Linux/Windows/Mac, etc, etc [13:40] kpettit: ok ... if you have your own Hardware to do Backups on you can use BackupPC ... which i like to use for doing backups ... [13:40] Dirvish \o/ [13:40] I've got rackspace cloud and their added storage isn't too much. I'm just lazy and want something that's easy to scale that I don't have to mess with much === bilde2910 is now known as bilde2910|away [13:47] hello happy people o/~ [13:47] i'm having issues === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 [13:48] with preseed, in particular: i'm pointing it to a mirror / directory that my isp runs, and it's unable to find a Release file. === bilde2910 is now known as bilde2910|away === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 === Guest56782 is now known as IdleOne === bilde2910 is now known as bilde2910|away === Mogwai is now known as Guest44540 [14:03] brain fart: i inserted ubuntu instead of trusty -- in the wrong kind of places.... [14:04] woo :) [14:05] still thining this is true, though: https://twitter.com/hirojin/status/525283520475070465 [14:06] .. mostly because the great a'tuin doesn't yet know about maas or juju [14:07] juju feels icky. [14:24] current status: it does everything up to the point where it's supposed to install our package list. that fails because of reasons. reason being that it doesn't /actually/ setup any of our extra repos (apt.puppetlabs.com and our internal repo) [14:26] hi. I've isntalled 14.04.1 server in a VM in virtualbox, had two ethernet devices (eth0, eth1). networking worked just fine. after that, I copied the system to a physical machine, with 3 NICs. on ubuntu they don't show up as eth0,1,2 and I don't have the file 70-persistent-net.rules as before on 12.04 or 10.04. how can I generate that file? [14:27] cemc_: that might be some interaction with biosdevname, if that helps your searching. [14:28] cemc_: mine says in part /lib/udev/write_net_rules and persistent-net-generator.rules [14:29] biosdevname will probably wreck the eth0/1/2 that you're used to but it might bring benefits that justify it.. [14:29] we're using 3.13.0-37-generic and are having a real issue with network activity spiking around 4 PM every day. Not sure if it is a NFS issue. We're having lots of failed connection attempts from various low port numbers ... something seems to be scanning across them trying to send messages. Stack trace of 100% kworker process here: http://pastebin.com/umm58ZSW [14:29] All of this failed connection activity is loopback, I forgot to mention. [14:29] UPDATE: This activity is a set of failed TURN requests. [14:29] sarnold_, rbasak my first confusion is, why is there no 70-persistent-net.rules file at all ? [14:29] cemc_: no idea [14:32] cemc_: I don't know. I wonder if it's suppressed if biosdevname is in use (which is BIOS-dependent) [14:35] of course. they have to be ordered. i always forget about that. apt-setup/local0/* that is. [14:52] hey [14:52] is there a reason precise nginx package doesn't allow nginx-extras? [14:53] joy. can't install linux-tools, because they depend on linux-image-extra, which apparently has a postinstall script that depends on upstart running... [14:55] Azaril: yeah, it's old [14:55] o [14:55] ok [14:55] Azaril: closer to Trusty release, Debian updated the `nginx` metapackage to depend on any of the variants [14:55] is there a way i can override that [14:56] Azaril: `sudo apt-get install nginx-extras nginx-common` [14:56] without rebuilding the nginx package [14:56] ok [14:56] i get that [14:56] Azaril: you don't need the `nginx` package, it's just a metapackage that points at the other nginx packages [14:56] but my puppet module doesnt like it [14:56] then puppet is evil. [14:56] haha [14:56] Azaril: alternative: use the PPA [14:56] sarnold_, rbasak found it, thanks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219332 [14:56] hate to recommend it but... [14:56] no its just i dont want to have rewrite it to fix what ever config some previous sysadmin did :P [14:57] ooooo so you inherited junk [14:57] sooo much junk [14:57] (sorry i'm a little annoyed at the world today, forgive me for being a bit harsher than normal) [14:57] haha [14:57] you dont have to deal with these servers mate :P [14:57] Azaril: short of manual removal of `nginx` and instead `sudo apt-get install nginx-extras nginx-common` or using an updated package like in the https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/ubuntu/stable (NGINX Stable PPA)... [14:58] i don't see how you can solve that. [14:58] ive spent the past 3 months trying to fix these servers and i am still constantly surpised that half this stuff works [14:58] !info nginx precise [14:58] booo ubottu [14:58] for my custom compiled modules i fixed it myself [14:58] nginx (source: nginx): small, but very powerful and efficient web server and mail proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.6 (precise), package size 5 kB, installed size 85 kB [14:58] cemc_: I'm still confused :) [14:58] urgh, 1.1.19... [14:58] ok [14:58] yeah i know [14:58] so old [14:58] Azaril: yeah that's almost ancient [14:59] sadly my xen server version doesnt support trusty [14:59] who uses xen server anyway right? [14:59] sarnold_: :) [15:12] hrm... still trying to install linux-image-extra... so it's not my fault :| [15:18] wtf. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1317602 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1317602 in linux "package linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic 3.13.0-24.46 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] [15:20] (none of those workarounds make any sense) [15:36] doesnt support? thats odd, what needs to be supported? make fstab use xvda and make getty spawn a login on hvc0 then allow root login on hvc0.. what else? === james is now known as Guest62408 === foo__ is now known as foo === bilde2910|away is now known as bilde2910 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [17:10] So I have been trying to get an unattended pxe boot deployment to work for a while, but I can’t seem to the installer to auto select the network interface. Any ideas? [17:10] Have this in the preseed: d-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto [17:10] namredips: are you trying to preseed network interface selection? If so, how are you fetching the preseed? Over the network? [17:11] rbasak: yea… via cobbler [17:11] namredips: to fix that chicken-and-egg problem, preseeds can also be specified via the kernel command line. I don't remember the exact syntax though. [17:11] hmmm [17:12] rbasak: obvious, but very pertinant thought… [17:12] rbasak: I recently moved from MAAS to cobbler, didn’t even thing about that. Since I suspsect MAAS handled it all without me knowing [17:13] rbasak: thanks! [17:13] rbasak: gives me at least a direction to look [17:13] No problem. [17:22] rbasak: that did it, its always the obvious ones that kill so much of my time :) [18:38] zul, smoser, hallyn_, beisner, coreycb, kickinz1, gnuoy, matsubara, rharper, lutostag, roaksoax: nice work guys! [18:38] anyone I missed? [18:38] dosaboy, you to! [18:39] * smoser was wondering last night if it'd be possible to get a "contributors" list. [18:39] jamespage, you missed rbasak [18:39] jamespage: awesome, great job too [18:39] woud'nt be too hard to pull utopic-changes [18:41] jamespage: tanks! [18:41] jamespage: likewise! [19:12] jamespage, great job! [19:14] hello [19:15] i'm quite new on ubuntu server but will learn [19:15] i have some questions maybe somebody could give me answers [19:15] welcome mediahome; if you haven't seen this yet, you might like to start here :) https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/ [19:15] mediahome: sure.. [19:16] yes [19:16] read a lot [19:16] done a lot [19:16] but its time for some good answers [19:16] :) [19:17] will use 14.04 for home server [19:17] tv server [19:17] media server [19:17] tv server every thing is cool [19:17] media server not really [19:18] samba in console is to heavy at the moment [19:18] so i found swat [19:18] but dont know if its really good [19:19] doesn't kill the system like webmin [19:19] and so on [19:20] so do the prof server guys use swat [19:20] or not [19:21] i can't believe that bigger networks will be managed only by the console [19:21] :-) [19:21] do not expose swat to untrusted network input; the samba team dropped it due to security concerns [19:22] yes i read that [19:22] things get easier with terminal-based administration, it's easier to script around operations done hundreds or thousands of times.. [19:22] but for an new linux guy it might be heavy [19:23] so there other options to manage ? [19:23] samba especially, the SMB protocols are horrible [19:24] :-) [19:27] why horrible [19:28] * lordievader mumbels something with windows... [19:30] mediahome: it's got multiple security models, none of which are great, and none of which really integrate well with linux. [19:30] mediahome: a few minutes reading https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages/smb.conf.5.html oughtto convince you that it's miserable.. [19:33] ok so there are other options? [19:34] nfs works alright if you've got nothing but unix-ish machines :) [19:35] mediahome: depends on what your sharing with. I like plex. So I run the plex media server on Ubuntu and share with my Roku, TV and mobiles. Works great [19:35] clients are windows machines [19:35] so nfs not an option [19:36] what types of files are you sharing? Normal office docs or mainly movies/audio kind of thing? [19:36] movies audio [19:36] pictures [19:36] plex is a good media only server. [19:36] does plex do transcoding ? [19:36] If you want simple you can also just use SSH and on windows get a SSHFS client that basically lets you may a Linux server you can ssh into as a drive letter [19:36] yes it does [19:37] ok not really like transcoding :-) [19:37] what version of windows? [19:37] 8.1 [19:37] windows 7 [19:38] Windows 7 and older you can use this to map any computer you can SSH into as a drive letter https://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/ [19:38] But it doesn't work well if at all on Windows 8. There are other commercial ones that let you map stuff though. [19:39] Really SMB should be the easiest way to go. But if you can't use that for whatever reason just using SSH is another option, or like I mentioned plex media server. [19:40] maybe i should read more and get smb to work :-) [19:41] smb for windows on a home work is a no brainer best solution. If your not used to the CLI stuff it can be painful. [19:41] If you want a GUI to configure samba you can look at something called webmin which is a web GUI for tons of Linux stuff. [19:41] Or you can just drudge your way through figuring it out. [19:41] !webmin [19:41] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. [19:42] mediahome: i use samba, it works great. Its easy to configure once you learn it. Just edit the smb.conf file. It is not hard. [19:42] Yeah I wouldn't use webmin for everything but for basic stuff like samba it's ok. It's always better if you can learn the CLI [19:43] read a lot about webmin [19:43] but nothing really good [19:43] mediahome: I've used ubuntu with samba as a home file server for XBMC to play media for 7+years. It works very well. [19:44] mediahome: Then your best choice is to start experimenting with Samba and give it a whirl. [19:45] ok so i have to do what has to be done and get my lazy ass to get it work [19:46] haha, you got it. [19:46] thanks a lot [19:46] sarnold, jdstrand: thanks for those MIR reviews today btw - much appreciated [19:46] jamespage: you're welcome :) [19:47] jamespage: sorry for the last-minute crossing the finish line results.. last few weeks have been hectic.. [19:49] jamespage, thank you for the great work as well! [19:49] oh forgot rbasak :-) === nathema is now known as nath|off [19:52] mediahome: I just setup smb in about 5min. If you've install samba installed you can use something like the following as a place to get you started http://pastebin.com/APjKaXxJ [19:56] thanks [19:56] will check it [19:56] No problem that example will give you a all access share [19:57] just change the path under allaccess to go to what you want to share. [19:57] restart samba then you should be good to go. I just tested that on a couple windows machines here and it worked great. So that should do the trick for ya [19:58] jamespage: you're welcome. sorry for the delay. 99.9% of the thanks should go to sarnold_ though :) [19:58] ok i will get it :-) [20:14] Anybody else having issues installing 14.04 via UEFI? [20:14] looks like it's trying to boot files that don't exist.. and when I attempt to load vmlinuz grub can't match the magic. [20:14] just tried a couple of times worked [20:16] might just be this laptop. Debian UEFI install works fine. [20:16] But it seems like it's looking for stuff that doesn't exist.. had to capture video of it and slow it down so I could read it === bilde2910 is now known as bilde2910|away === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === arosales_ is now known as arosales === jared_ is now known as Guest91863 [23:19] Does anyone here use postfix or emix in a production environment or is dealing with spam and ensuring your outgoing mail isn't flagged as spam not worth the trouble? [23:25] Will EC2 instances or Azure instances running postfix or emix be flagged as spam? === roost is now known as Guest30013 === roost_ is now known as roost [23:53] hi guys im copying a huge file between two ubuntu server that is remote from each other but reachable - file size (14845841920) any fastest way i can do this and wont timeout..? [23:57] ruben23: I'd consider rsync. However FTP could be faster. Manual Compression may help. And using some sort of physical mover of information (a carrier pidgeon, a human, a bear) could prove very quick, depending on the distance