[02:36] <Private_User> bbl
[04:42] <Symmetria> morning
[04:42] <Symmetria> suspect we will see utopic officially released either today or tomorrow
[05:29] <bduk1> More almal
[05:36] <Symmetria> hrm
[05:37] <Symmetria> wondering what time we will start to see release today
[05:37] <Kilos> morning
[05:37] <Symmetria> I got our NOC monitoring the mirror server pretty closely for this
[05:38] <Kilos> Symmetria  what contacts you got at the peeps that maintain za.archive repo?
[05:38] <Kilos> took 40 mins to run update
[05:38] <Symmetria> kilos limited, I've LONG asked that the za repo be pointed to the KE servers because of trouble with those servers
[05:39] <Symmetria> but until some south africans start bleeting about it and asking for it in #ubuntu-mirrors 
[05:39] <Symmetria> it wont happen
[05:39] <Symmetria> my suggestion for now, change your apt sources to ke.archive 
[05:39] <Symmetria> I can almost guarantee that it will be faster unless you are behind telkom :P
[05:39] <Symmetria> just check the routing, if your latency is decent, the server is huge and has unlimited bandwidth
[05:39] <Kilos> does yours show in our repos yet?
[05:40] <Symmetria> it should, ke.archive wlil be there 
[05:40] <Symmetria> as well zm.archive zw.archive bw.archive and tz.archive
[05:40] <Symmetria> all of them point to me
[05:40] <Symmetria> brb, just climbing in the car
[05:40] <Kilos> atm im using ftp.wa.co.za
[05:41] <Kilos> this will give a bad reflection on ubuntu as a whole when noobs try ubuntu for the first time
[05:45] <Kilos> ubuntu.mirror.ac.ke is what i see for kenya
[05:45] <Symmetria> does that WA mirror work ok? the last few times I tried to use it, it was horrrrribly slow
[05:45] <Symmetria> kilos what about the top level country archives?
[05:46] <Symmetria> ke. zw. zm. tz. bw. etc?
[05:46] <Symmetria> those should all be there
[05:47] <Kilos> i looked in synaptic for mirrors and that was the only one by kenya
[05:47] <Kilos> anyway go to where you are going first
[05:48] <Symmetria> lol its all good Im in the car at the moment 
[05:48] <Symmetria> nothing else to do for the next 30 - 40 minutes other than IRC ;p
[05:48] <Kilos> aha
[05:48] <Kilos> i dunno how to find those other repos you give
[05:51] <Symmetria> thats very odd, I have no idea how to set official country mirrors on ubuntu, because when you install it with a particular locale it sets those by default at install unless you change em to something else
[05:51] <Symmetria> I have no idea though how to revert back to them
[05:55] <Kilos> the default morror here sucks big time, speeds vary from 420b/s to 16kB/s
[05:56] <Kilos> but the ftp.wa.co.za is fast but noobs will never know how to find that
[05:57] <Squirm> morning
[06:00] <Symmetria> kilos go into #ubuntu-mirrors and ask them to re-point it
[06:00] <Symmetria> to ke 
[06:00] <Symmetria> and tell them its faster, way faster :p
[06:01] <Symmetria> heh, I think neology is gonna struggle to handle a release day, they dont have that kinda capacity at all
[06:08] <Kilos> well our local default mirror wont even handle 2 peeps downloading
[06:08] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[06:09] <Kilos> Symmetria  how do i test the speed of your mirror
[06:11] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[06:11] <Kilos> ai!
[06:16] <Kilos> Symmetria  ive asked them
[06:16] <Kilos> now we wait and see
[06:16] <Kilos> oh i see you are there too
[06:16] <Kilos> hehe
[06:39] <Kilos> hi Wraz  you still with us i see, hows things
[06:50] <Kilos> Maaz  wb
[06:50] <Maaz> Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend
[06:56] <Squirm> hey Symmetri1, long time
[06:57] <Squirm> how's things treating you up that side?
[06:57] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[06:58] <Squirm> hi Kilos 
[07:13] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:36] <Kilos> Symmetri1  who took over when you left here? that oke needs revving
[07:46] <Kilos> hi JabberwockyA19  Xethron  
[08:07] <JabberwockyA19> more Kilos :)
[08:59] <somaunn> Hello Guys
[09:00] <somaunn> Kilos: I got everything to work like a charm and now really enjoying my plasma 5 better than before
[09:00] <Kilos> nice somaunn  im happy for you
[09:00] <Kilos> now dont break it
[09:01] <somaunn> I learn from brackage my friend 
[09:01] <somaunn> I learn more from brackage
[09:01] <Kilos> lol
[09:01] <Kilos> breakage
[09:01] <Kilos> we all learn more from our mistakes
[09:01] <somaunn> things become better after they got broken
[09:01] <somaunn> thanks Kilos Breakage
[09:02] <Kilos> np
[09:04] <somaunn> is UB 14.10 released yet ?
[09:05] <Kilos> not yet i think
[09:05] <Kilos> normally in the evening
[09:05] <somaunn> gud
[09:06] <somaunn> Kilos: i think my next step will be to 100% format my laptop and have it only running FED21
[09:06] <somaunn> but i need your support ...
[09:07] <somaunn> if something crashes then I can talk to someone ...lol
[09:08] <somaunn> talking about IRC chan is there a S.A Chan for Fed ? or S.A prefers to run UB only
[09:10] <Kilos> lol
[09:10] <Kilos> what is FED@!
[09:10] <Kilos> ai!
[09:10] <Kilos> FED21
[09:10] <Kilos> i forget to leave shift
[09:11] <somaunn> Kilos: Fed stands for Fedora ...lol
[09:11] <Kilos> eish
[09:12] <somaunn> U see now !
[09:13] <somaunn> Kilos:  can u help me runing a quick test ?
[09:14] <Kilos> ya i was hoping you would format and use ubuntu man
[09:14] <Kilos> i can try
[09:14] <somaunn> i have two laptops the other laptop will use UB man
[09:14] <Kilos> wb ThatGraemeGuy  
[09:15] <somaunn> Kilos: please run this mtr -u -n -e cg.airtel.com then slexy me ...
[09:15] <Kilos> ok
[09:17] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2Cc82u6U9
[09:17] <Kilos> so many lost packets
[09:19] <somaunn> i have an appointment with my ISP this morning we will talk i wish to prove him that he've implemented a too long route 
[09:19] <somaunn> okay let me see
[09:21] <Kilos> ah
[09:22] <somaunn> i see now
[09:22] <somaunn> do you have dnstracer installed ?
[09:24] <somaunn> if you do please try to dnstracer the same domain and slexy me the result
[09:25] <Kilos> let me install it
[09:26] <somaunn> yeah
[09:27] <Kilos> so the command is dnstracer cg.airtel.com  is that right
[09:28] <somaunn> yeah , i just forgot arguments to use 
[09:29] <Kilos> miles@P64:~$ dnstracer cg.airtel.com
[09:29] <Kilos> Tracing to cg.airtel.com[a] via 127.0.1.1, maximum of 3 retries
[09:29] <Kilos> 127.0.1.1 (127.0.1.1) 
[09:29] <Kilos> thats all i see
[09:31] <somaunn> okay can you please do dnstracer --help and slexy me the output ? i'm currently finishing my update for so i can't install dnstracer
[09:34] <Kilos> here is a traceroute run
[09:35] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2RY0wGq9I
[09:36] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s2cxtluoXm
[09:36] <Kilos> invalid option --
[09:38] <somaunn> what if you try dnstracer -c -o -v cg.airtel.com
[09:39] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s21a6YBDEj
[09:39] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  
[09:41] <Vince-0> Haai
[09:41] <somaunn> Kilos: brb
[09:41] <Vince-0> I haven't organised your package yet
[09:41] <Kilos> np
[09:42] <Kilos> i learned patience when trying to get help in mailing lists
[09:42] <Kilos> hehe
[12:16] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:18] <Kilos> hi Private_User  
[13:19] <Kilos> Symmetri1  ping
[13:19] <Kilos> they talking to you man
[13:20] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[13:56] <Symmetri1> kilos they are sorting it out
[14:03] <Kilos> are they
[14:03] <Kilos> i didnt see anything. did they pm you Symmetri1  ?
[14:06] <Kilos> and sorting what? re-pointing to you?
[14:08] <TinuvaMac> whats borked?
[14:54] <nlsthzn> so the unicorn has landed then :)
[14:54] <Symmetria> nlsthzn,  aint officially out yet I dont think
[14:54] <Symmetria> btw, where is za.archive and za.releases resolving to now?
[14:55] <Symmetria> (za.archive.ubuntu.com and za.releases.ubuntu.com)
[14:55] <Symmetria> just wanna know if the ZA DNS propogation has happened yet
[14:55] <nlsthzn> I have a link if you want it
[14:55] <nlsthzn> torrent
[14:56] <Symmetria> nlsthzn lol, dont need the torrents, the files are already up on the mirror server, but Im just saying that they aint linked the files officially yet 
[14:56] <Symmetria> because if they had I'd be seeing a lot more traffic than I am on the mirrors
[14:56] <nlsthzn> yup
[14:56] <nlsthzn> so far only omgubuntu saying anything
[14:56] <nlsthzn> but the word will spread :p
[14:57] <nlsthzn> best thing about this release is the name, other than that it is meh >.<
[14:57] <Symmetria> can you check those dns resolves for me?
[15:01] <Kerbero> za.archive.ubuntu.com	canonical name = ubuntu-archive.mirror.liquidtelecom.com
[15:01] <Kerbero> 197.155.77.2
[15:01] <Symmetria> ok good, they re-pointed it
[15:01] <Symmetria> cause the za mirrors were fubar for speed 
[15:01] <Kerbero> za.releases.ubuntu.com	canonical name = ubuntu-releases.mirror.liquidtelecom.com
[15:02] <Kerbero> everything is fubar since you left
[15:02] <Symmetria> well, now that shit is pointed to kenya
[15:02] <Symmetria> which I run
[15:02] <Symmetria> so it will work again
[15:02] <Symmetria> and there is loads of capacity 
[15:03] <Symmetria> and the routing is pretty optimised as well
[15:03] <Kerbero> but now i have to pay
[15:03] <Kerbero> and no more free 10gbps
[15:03] <Symmetria> unless you manually point at the wa mirror
[15:03] <Symmetria> which is an option :)
[15:03] <Kerbero> yeah i sometimes do
[15:03] <Symmetria> Kerbero, suprised they charge for peered traffic though cause thats lame
[15:03] <Kerbero> but it is broken so many times that i just point to the main archive
[15:04] <Symmetria> but its honestly better for everyone if they point at a stable fast mirror thats in africa hence pointing it to kenya
[15:05] <Symmetria> back in a few I gotta get into the bank quick
[15:05] <Kerbero> ok
[15:05] <Kerbero> cheers
[15:05] <Symmetria> well, nothing quick about going into a bank branch but as quick as can be :p
[15:12] <Squirm> 'lo
[15:13] <Squirm> so
[15:13] <Squirm> there was a break in a municipal electricity line
[15:13] <Squirm> no electricity from 9:30 - 16h00
[15:13] <Squirm> :P
[15:13] <Squirm> has been an unproductive day ^^
[15:20] <Kilos> sjoe Squirm  
[15:20] <Kilos> Symmetria  ty very much
[15:22] <not_found> >.< hardware virtualization not enabled in BIOS so to make 64-bit hosts in Virtualbox I need to reboot :'(
[15:22] <not_found> oh hai uncle Kerbero 
[15:22] <not_found> uhm Kilos 
[15:22] <not_found> >.<
[15:25] <Kilos> ohi not_found  wb
[15:25] <not_found> thanks :)
[15:26] <Kilos> i been working outside on sisters car so been bad here
[15:27] <not_found> ah :(
[15:27] <not_found> dinner now, bbl
[16:07] <Kilos> here comes a storm inetpro_  lets see who gets more water
[16:09] <Symmetria> heh hopefully less than we've been getting here
[17:27] <Kilos> ai! wind trees and power lines dont play nice
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[17:35]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:36] <Kilos> Maaz  hurry
[17:36] <Maaz> Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed
[17:37] <Kilos> sigh
[17:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:39] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[17:39] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[17:49] <charl> hi Kilos 
[17:50] <charl> Maaz: do you have some coffee left?
[17:50] <Maaz> charl: I already know stuff about do you
[17:50] <charl> eh ...
[17:50] <Kilos> hi charly
[17:50] <Kilos> hows things
[17:50] <charl> ja good man
[17:50] <charl> rasperry pi is working great
[17:50] <charl> with omxplayer
[17:50] <charl> plays perfect 1080p video vid hdmi
[17:50] <Kilos> haha boys and their toys
[17:50] <charl> and control it remotely via ssh
[17:51] <Kilos> whew that little thing
[17:51] <charl> yes...
[17:51] <Kilos> cool
[18:30] <Kilos> sigh
[18:38] <Symmetria> so who here is good with maths
[18:38] <Symmetria> I got a challenge I want someone to explain to me...
[18:39] <Symmetria> Say I wanna buy something for 97 bux... I aint got any cash cause Im broke... so I borrow 50 bux from person 1 and 50 bux from person 2, I then spend the 97 bux, I got 3 bux left, I give 1 to person1, 2 to person2, and I have 1 left for myself, meaning, I owe person1 and person2 49 bux each
[18:39] <Symmetria> except, 49 * 2 + 1 = 99
[18:39] <Symmetria> so where did the 1 go
[18:39] <Symmetria> ;p
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:41] <Symmetria> new ubuntu is out
[18:54] <charl> good evening Symmetria 
[18:58] <charl> that make no sense that calculation
[18:58] <charl> 49*2-1=97
[18:58] <charl> 97 is how much you spent
[18:58] <charl> 1 is what you have left
[18:58] <Tonberry> it's a clever trap
[18:58] <charl> 49*2 is what you owe
[18:59] <Symmetria> hrm, can someone try and download one of the isos on http://ke.releases.ubuntu.com/utopic/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:59] <Symmetria> or that url
[18:59] <Symmetria> and tell me if its working
[19:05] <Kilos> it seems to be working Symmetria  
[19:06] <Kilos> cant download but it gives the save optionm
[19:07] <Kilos> i mean i dont have data to download it
[19:25] <superfly> Symmetria: 1.1G downloading fine initially
[19:33] <Kilos> hi superfly  kbmonkey  
[19:33] <Kilos> i go sleep now
[19:33] <superfly> hi Kilos
[19:33] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:33] <superfly> night night
[19:36] <Symmetria> superfly ok cool thanks