[00:00] <teward> obelich: do yoy have an actual question
[00:00] <teward> obelich: rather than "does someone here have"...
[00:00] <obelich> reisio: 　おはようございます
[00:00] <obelich> hehehe :P
[00:00] <obelich> i speak spanish
[00:01] <obelich> know a little japanese :P
[00:01] <reisio> obelich: does it really take all that to say good morning?
[00:01] <obelich> reisio: is a formal mode ohayou gozaimasu
[00:01] <pbx> reisio, my googling on this question suggests that the UI for this was excised in gnome 3
[00:02] <obelich> おはよう　= ohayou
[00:02] <reisio> obelich: CJKers are going to love it when speech recognition is perfected :p
[00:02] <reisio> pbx: possible, they (upstream GNOME) switched everyone to GNOME 3 before they finished a lot of things
[00:02] <reisio> might ask #gnome about it
[00:03] <obelich> im using KDE :P wit intel hd4600 laptop lenovo y50
[00:03] <gorbyebrius> mightcould, a strip? Are you sure you're not using the desktop wall plugin instead of the cube?
[00:04] <obelich> have problem in crossover the battlenet show in black screen :( some one get the same problem and fixed ?
[00:04] <mightcould> 1 sec i got to let my dog out
[00:04] <JCT> i cannot fix my xubuntu interface. the panel i have won't show, hotkeys won't work, and no task buttons on the top of a window.
[00:04] <JCT> so basically this desktop is helpless
[00:12] <jdv_> hello
[00:12] <jdv_> exit
[00:13] <reisio> jdv_: I concur
[00:16] <Es0teric> anyone here know how to resolve: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified when using sftp?
[00:17] <pbx> Es0teric, use public key auth if you can
[00:17] <Es0teric> pbx so i should use ssh authentication right?
[00:21] <pbx> Es0teric, "ssh authentication" encompasses several different things. i'm specifically suggesting passwordless public-key-based login (sounds like the server asking for a password is the problem for you).   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[00:28] <mightcould> gorbyebrius, ok to answer your question no i dont have desktop wall on, just desktop cube
[00:28] <Es0teric> pbx  i am using ssh for authentication and STILL i get the same issue
[00:34] <gr33n-ion> hello :D
[00:34] <pbx> Es0teric, "using ssh for authentication" is not a meaningful description.  if you are saying you are using keyless auth, then it may be failing and falling back to password.  i can't really help troubleshoot that but i do recommend reading that page i linked to for details
[00:35] <gr33n-ion> is it reccomeneded practice that if you need to run commands as root in a script or progam you can run it under a user with this command acting apon it '<username> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL'
[00:35] <gr33n-ion> so that sudo will work without a password
[00:36] <Es0teric> gr33n-ion alright i will try that thanks
[00:37] <reisio> gr33n-ion: it's recommended to give out root as specifically and incrementally as possible, if you can help it
[00:37] <mightcould> anyone know how to make the desktop cube actually be a cube instead of a strip?
[00:37] <reisio> mightcould: do you have to enable 6 workspaces?...
[00:37] <reisio> mightcould: ask #compiz
[00:38] <mightcould> oh ok
[00:38] <clueless-> http://linuxconfig.org/enabling-ubuntu-compiz-3d-cube-desktop-effect
[00:39] <mightcould> clueless-, thanks!
[00:40] <clueless-> yup!
[00:40] <clueless-> be careful with compiz though...
[00:40] <clueless-> srsly
[00:44] <azulinox> hola .. alguien habla español?
[00:45] <Dmidma> Ubuntu's community is the best <3
[00:45] <mightcould> i agree
[00:47] <kewl_> we're using 3.13.0-37-generic and are having a real issue with network activity spiking around 4 PM every day. Not sure if it is a NFS issue. We're having lots of failed connection attempts from various low port numbers ... something seems to be scanning across them trying to send messages. Stack trace of 100% kworker process here: http://pastebin.com/umm58ZSW
[00:47] <kewl_> All of this failed connection activity is loopback, I forgot to mention.
[00:48] <gr33n-ion> reisio: okay thanks :D
[00:49] <mightcould> ok sweet i got it to work
[00:51] <Es0teric> gr33n-ion
[00:58] <HikaruBG> hi guys!
[00:59] <HikaruBG> How can I configure Ubintu Server as DNS Server to redirect a particular domain-name to my local network address and port ?
[00:59] <HikaruBG> :)
[01:00] <gr33n-ion> run wireshark and do it?
[01:00] <gr33n-ion> oh right nvm read it wrong
[01:00] <gr33n-ion> lol
[01:00] <mgolisch> thats impossible
[01:00] <HikaruBG> :D
[01:00] <mgolisch> dns has nothing to do with ports
[01:01] <HikaruBG> mgolisch, I am listening
[01:01] <HikaruBG> I need to configure my own DNS Ubuntu Server
[01:01] <HikaruBG> how to do it?
[01:02] <MadHatter42> I have two ubuntu hosts part of a /20 network
[01:02] <MadHatter42> M1(10.0.31.100) and M2(10.0.32.200)
[01:02] <MadHatter42> On M2 i have a virtual netowrk (172.16.1.0/24) with a virtual machine M3 (172.16.1.100)
[01:02] <MadHatter42> I've added the route for the 172.16.1.0/ via 10.0.32.200 on M1
[01:02] <MadHatter42> Ive enabled forwarding on M2 and I can ping M1 from M3 but not the vice verca.
[01:02] <MadHatter42> How do I reach the M3 from the M1 ? (can ping M3 from M2 and M2 from M3)
[01:02] <Es0teric> gr33n-ion your suggestion didnt work
[01:02] <mgolisch> HikaruBG: what for?
[01:03] <gr33n-ion> Es0teric: what was my suggestions again?
[01:04] <HikaruBG> I have a virtual machine as a production mockup (actually is pre-production server) which I would like to be able to access easily from my local network
[01:04] <HikaruBG> ofcourse I will edit my DNS settings of my hosts
[01:04] <HikaruBG> in order to use it
[01:05] <mgolisch> why would you need that?
[01:05] <HikaruBG> but I would like it configured, so I can access all vhosts I have there with a domain names, and not IP addresses
[01:05] <mgolisch> why not just edit your hostfile ?
[01:05] <Es0teric> gr33n-ion '<username> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL'
[01:05] <gr33n-ion> what ... I wans't suggesting that to anyone I was asking a question about it in fact
[01:05] <mgolisch> HikaruBG: just edit /etc/hosts on your machine
[01:06] <HikaruBG> mgolisch, I see...
[01:06] <gr33n-ion> think of that as your local dns
[01:06] <gr33n-ion> its waht gets checked before the dns request is send
[01:06] <Es0teric> gr33n-ion oh lol
[01:06] <HikaruBG> mgolisch, I have different vhosts each listening on different port, can I configure that with hosts file config ?
[01:07] <mgolisch> ?
[01:07] <mgolisch> if your vhosts use different ports you have to specify the port anyways
[01:07] <azulinox> hay alguien que me pueda ayudar ..soy nuevo y me instale xubuntu y me desaparecio el icono de volumen
[01:07] <mgolisch> it cant work otherwise
[01:07] <MadHatter42> anyone ?
[01:07] <azulinox> busque en internet y puse una linea de comando ..
[01:08] <HikaruBG> Oh, OK. I was hoping there is a way
[01:08] <HikaruBG> mgolisch,
[01:08] <azulinox> y ahora tengo un icono de volumen pero no es el mismo.. ayudaaaa
[01:08] <mgolisch> why do they use different ports?
[01:08] <mgolisch> apache supports name based virtualhosts
[01:09] <mgolisch> or is this not about web servers?
[01:09] <HikaruBG> how can I configure then many vhosts on port:80 which will be accessible on name basis?
[01:09] <HikaruBG> because I didn't find a way to do it
[01:09] <azulinox> alguien habla español?
[01:09] <mgolisch> HikaruBG: in the vhost config use the same port but specify a different servername
[01:09] <mgolisch> azulinox: english please
[01:10] <mgolisch> azulinox: #ubuntu-es
[01:10] <azulinox> i am new usar by xubuntu
[01:10] <azulinox> thanx
[01:11] <HikaruBG> mgolisch, I had that done. And when I would like to access the vhost01 from my host and It goes to apache localhost generic page
[01:11] <azulinox> #ubuntu-es
[01:11] <HikaruBG> I would like to access vhosts from external machine
[01:11] <HikaruBG> not from the localhost
[01:11] <mgolisch> yeah because your didnt use the hostname
[01:11] <mgolisch> or did you?
[01:12] <HikaruBG> so I configure the hosts file on machine01 to point vhost01 to the IP to machine02 (with apache and vhosts) and I will get the vhost01 page?
[01:12] <HikaruBG> let me try that ...
[01:12] <HikaruBG> strange...
[01:13] <mgolisch> HikaruBG: yeah
[01:13] <HikaruBG> Hm...  mgolisch thanks - let me try that .. :) Some config time now
[01:15] <klrspz> Hey guys, my google-fu is not working for me... When I try to open dropbox from the icon, it opens up the Disk Analyzer app... How do I change it to my preferred file manager?
[01:17] <mitchell> my email provider is out of service, and I forgot my launchpad account password.  would an admin please help me fix my account?
[01:18] <mightcould> on xubuntu can i move the taskbar to the botton?
[01:18] <HikaruBG> mgolisch, IT WORKED! I can't believe how simple it is. And I was thinking some complicated stuff need to be done some rocket-surgery type NASA controlled Government CIA configurations ....
[01:18] <HikaruBG> James Bond type stufff
[01:19] <mgolisch> klrspz: select a directory in your filebrowser and choose your filemanager in open with
[01:19] <ircfox> Hello guys! I am not sure witch log/pass I need to use for my VPS server in order to use ssh service. Could someone help me please?
[01:20] <mgolisch> klrspz: you probably set diskanalyzer as a default application for the inode/directory mimetype
[01:21] <klrspz> mgolisch: i looked at the mimetypes.list, no entry, but I'll try what you said
[01:21] <klrspz> mgolisch: nope, no worky
[01:22] <mgolisch> klrspz: what desktop you on?
[01:22] <klrspz> doh, nvm... didn't click "set default"
[01:22] <klrspz> you da man!
[01:22] <mgolisch> :)
[01:22] <mgolisch> ircfox: didnt your vps provider tell you what your username and password is?
[01:23] <klrspz> i now see it added in the mimetypes.list
[01:23] <ircfox> mgolisch: yes, but it is not loging. I try ssh user@IP and then the password and it faisl
[01:23] <ircfox> faisl
[01:23] <ircfox> fails*
[01:25] <mgolisch> ircfox: what does it say?
[01:26] <ircfox> mgolisch: ermission denied, please try again.
[01:28] <mgolisch> sure the username and pass is right?
[01:28] <ircfox> mgolisch: I got a terminal working on ssh from the server control panel, is there a way to verify the user I should be trying to log it and perhaps the password? I am mostrly not sure about the user.
[01:29] <mgolisch> su - user
[01:29] <mgolisch> if it accepts the password its correct
[01:29] <mgolisch> but then again sshd could be configured to not allow login for that user
[01:30] <SupaYoshi> Hey im setting up an ubuntu desktop (elementary os) for an old guy.
[01:30] <SupaYoshi> I use Teamviewer on windows.
[01:30] <SupaYoshi> But I want to run TightVNC i think? For remote access
[01:30] <SupaYoshi> however thats unencrypted.
[01:30] <SupaYoshi> Anyway I can make it encrypted?
[01:30] <mgolisch> SupaYoshi: why?
[01:30] <mgolisch> whats wrong with teamviewer?
[01:30] <SupaYoshi> mgolisch, teamviewer runs under wine.
[01:30] <mgolisch> and?
[01:31] <SupaYoshi> And when I start teamviewr you see it in the taskbar.
[01:31] <SupaYoshi> I want it to be easier then teamviewr for this guy.
[01:31] <SupaYoshi> I dont understand why Teamviewer has no native linux client.
[01:31] <ircfox> mgolisch: I mean show all the user that could be logged at this machine
[01:31] <mgolisch> SupaYoshi: cant that guy just start teamviewer if he needs you to access its box?
[01:32] <mgolisch> his
[01:32] <SupaYoshi> Maybe
[01:35] <mgolisch> ircfox: doesnt the documentation of your vps provider tell you how to login into your server?
[01:36] <mgolisch> SupaYoshi: if you want vnc you could tunnel that through ssh for encryption
[01:36] <mgolisch> thats what i did for my pals and family members
[01:37] <mgolisch> they would start a shellscript to start vnc and then ssh reverse tunnel the vnc port to my linux vps
[01:37] <mgolisch> but teamviewer is just so much easier
[01:38] <quidnunc> Why can't I move a folder in /home/ ("Device or resource busy") but nothing shows up in lsof
[01:38] <mgolisch> move it to where?
[01:38] <quidnunc> mgolisch: /home
[01:39] <quidnunc> mgolisch: rename
[01:39] <mgolisch> you ran lsof with sudo?
[01:39] <quidnunc> mgolisch: yeah
[01:40] <mgolisch> what are your moving?
[01:40] <mgolisch> it might be stuff mounted unter that dir
[01:41] <quidnunc> mgolisch: A users home directory. I moved it to another partition, then mounted that partition. Now I want to rename the old directory
[01:41] <quidnunc> s/moved/copied/
[01:41] <quidnunc> mgolisch: But it should show up in lsof (?)
[01:42] <mgolisch> you mounted the partition where?
[01:43] <mightcould> anyone know why i cannot get water effects to work in compiz?
[01:44] <quidnunc> mgolisch: over the old directory (call it /home/foo). I have the original partition mounted again elsewhere
[01:44] <EriC^^> mightcould: are you pressing shift+f9?
[01:45] <mgolisch> quidnunc: and renaming what doesnt work?
[01:45] <quidnunc> mgolisch: The original directory on the original partition
[01:46] <mgolisch> quidnunc: hm lsof should show stuff usualy
[01:47] <mightcould> EriC^^, yes and nothing happens
[01:47] <EriC^^> in unity?
[01:47] <mightcould> i also couldnt get firepaint to work either, but i have the 3d cube working fine
[01:47] <mightcould> im in xubuntu
[01:48] <EriC^^> complete opposite here
[01:48] <EriC^^> water effect and firepaint work, 3d cube doesn't
[01:48] <mgolisch> quidnunc: so /home/foo was a seperate partition and you copied that to a new partition and mounted it on /home/foo on / ? and you mounted the old /home/foo elsewhere and no cant rename stuff in there?
[01:48] <mightcould> EriC^^, hah thats kinda funny
[01:49] <mightcould> EriC^^,  i wonder what that could be
[01:49] <EriC^^> yeah
[01:50] <mightcould> EriC^^, wobbly windows works for me, how bout you?
[01:51] <EriC^^> yeah, its working
[01:51] <|aaron> trying to dual boot ubuntu and win7. grub installs fine on /dev/sda1 (windows efi partition), and works until i boot until windows, then windows overwrites it. how can i stop it from doing that?
[01:51] <EriC^^> i tried the wallpaper changer once, for kicks
[01:53] <EriC^^> needs to be improved though, you have to add them one by one
[01:53] <sergio-br2> i'm having a problem with a library
[01:53] <sergio-br2> dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libOpenVG.so.1 needed by debian/retroarch/usr/bin/retroarch (ELF format: 'elf32-littlearm-hfabi'; RPATH: '')
[01:54] <EriC^^> was a pita
[01:54] <sergio-br2> if you creates the symlink for libOpenVG.so.1 from the /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnuabihf/libOpenVG.so , it works
[01:55] <EriC^^> |aaron: hp laptop?
[01:55] <quidnunc> mgolisch: /home was on btrfs subvol on /dev/sdb1 called @home. I moved /home/foo to another subvol called @foo. Then I mounted that subvol on /home/foo. Then I mounted /dev/sdb1 and tried to rename (the original) /home/foo
[01:55] <sergio-br2> who do I have to touch to fix it ?
[01:55] <|aaron> eric^^: no its a custom built desktop. asrock board
[01:55] <sergio-br2> libopenvg1-mesa package ?
[01:56] <mgolisch> quidnunc: you did unmount the original /home subvol? like before mounting the @foo one on /home/foo ?
[01:56] <quidnunc> mgolisch: No. There are other directories under the original /home
[01:57] <quidnunc> which I want to continue to be mounted
[01:57] <mightcould> |aaron, hey i use asrock on all my computers. love them
[01:58] <wafflej0ck> sergio-br2: think I had a somewhat similar problem I'm on x64 and needed to get the package:386 version
[01:58] <EriC^^> |aaron: i dont think i can help
[01:58] <EriC^^> |aaron: why do you have an efi partition though on win7?
[01:58] <|aaron> why wouldnt i? thats how it installs itself
[01:58] <|aaron> this is just a normal windows 7 installation
[01:59] <|aaron> fresh
[01:59] <EriC^^> oh ok
[01:59] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: that is a bit strange though UEFI stuff came out for Win 8
[01:59] <wafflej0ck> thought*
[01:59] <mightcould> |aaron, idk how you did it, but how i dual my machines is i first load a live cd linux, use gparted to partition the drives, NFTS/EXT4 then i install windows first, linux second. boot to windows, it'll wanna do a check disc, let that go then restart into linux and restart into windows. then its g2g.
[01:59] <|aaron> well im using the windows 7 media refresh disk
[01:59] <|aaron> to install
[01:59] <trent> ripe
[01:59] <trent> join #stripe
[02:00] <sergio-br2> wafflej0ck, amd64 does not have this .so.1 file too
[02:00] <|aaron> mightcloud: i just installed windows 7 first, now trying to partition and install linux. its weird because it installs fine and works until windows runs and wipes it out. got to be some way to prevent this
[02:00] <|aaron> no one has any clue, its amazing
[02:00] <|aaron> no idea dual booting was so hard in 2014
[02:01] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: UEFI complicated things again, it was pretty easy for a while there
[02:01] <mightcould> you need to partition before you install
[02:01] <|aaron> wafflej0ck: haha seriously, i feel like this is 20 years ago lol
[02:01] <|aaron> mightcould: before i install windows?
[02:01] <sergio-br2> report bug agains libopenvg1-mesa-dev ?
[02:01] <sergio-br2> * against
[02:01] <EriC^^> |aaron: if windows overwrites, you don't need to reinstall ubuntu, just boot a livecd and reinstall grub
[02:01] <mgolisch> quidnunc: how can you rename /home/foo then when you mounted @foo on that?
[02:02] <EriC^^> |aaron: did you try reinstalling grub after this happened?
[02:02] <|aaron> mightcloud: thats weird because thats the opposite of everything ive read. it says when you *install* windows, it wipes out grub
[02:02] <|aaron> eric^^: im trying to do that now but i cant figure it out
[02:02] <mgolisch> you cant move/rename a something that a filesystem is mounted on
[02:02] <EriC^^> |aaron: ok, boot the livecd
[02:02] <|aaron> i ran mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[02:03] <|aaron> eric^^: i have it booted now
[02:03] <EriC^^> ok hold on
[02:03] <|aaron> it gives me an error "this gpt partition label contains no bios boot partition"
[02:03] <EriC^^> ok
[02:03] <mightcould> |aaron, yes when you installed windows to begin with it took the whole drive and partitioned it to NFTS. when linux "robbed it" Windows got confused. there is a repair for it. but i dun forgot it long ago. i reinstall my machines all the time off a master HDD that i clone everything from. makes life a lot easier
[02:03] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l , and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[02:03] <|aaron> migthcould: yeah ill have to do it that way next time
[02:04] <quidnunc> mgolisch: I am trying to move /tmp/sdb1/@home/foo not /home/foo (which is on mounted on /dev/sdb1/@foo/)
[02:04] <|aaron> eric^^: paste.ubuntu.com/8634692
[02:04] <mightcould> it took me 10 years of install discs, lost drivers and that damn windows activation before i finally decided to make a master drive to clone everything from.
[02:05] <|aaron> i use driveimage xml images
[02:05] <EriC^^> |aaron: what's mounted right now? type df -Th
[02:06] <|aaron> eric^^: paste.ubuntu.com/8634695
[02:06] <EriC^^> |aaron: ok, type sudo umount /mnt
[02:06] <|aaron> k
[02:08] <EriC^^> |aaron: is your root partition 20gb?
[02:08] <mgolisch> quidnunc: its still /foo on @home thats also mounted under /home and has @foo mounted on it
[02:08] <quidnunc> mgolisch: Thanks
[02:08] <mightcould> EriC^^, found a online source that says firepaint doesnt work on 14.04 :/
[02:08] <|aaron> eric^^: yeah sda5 is / 20gb
[02:08] <quidnunc> just realized that
[02:09] <|aaron> eric^^: sda6 is /home
[02:09] <|aaron> eric^^: sorry sda4 is /, sda5 is /home, sda6 is swap
[02:09] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[02:09] <|aaron> ok
[02:09] <Es0teric> anyone know why i get this error on `sudo service apache reload` sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified?
[02:10] <EriC^^> |aaron: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[02:10] <|aaron> k
[02:10] <Es0teric> that is happening through a deployment that is occuring via sftp
[02:11] <EriC^^> |aaron: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[02:12] <|aaron> ok done
[02:12] <EriC^^> ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[02:12] <|aaron> ok
[02:12] <EriC^^> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[02:12] <|aaron> cool says it worked
[02:12] <|aaron> reboot?
[02:13] <EriC^^> hold on
[02:13] <EriC^^> update-grub
[02:13] <|aaron> k
[02:13] <|aaron> it found everything looks like
[02:13] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[02:13] <|aaron> k
[02:13] <EriC^^> ok try to reboot
[02:13] <wafflej0ck> Es0teric: sftp or ssh?
[02:14] <Es0teric> wafflej0ck sftp
[02:14] <Es0teric> wafflej0ck i am running a beanstalk deployment
[02:14] <wafflej0ck> Es0teric: I'm not familiar with running commands through sftp really
[02:15] <|aaron> eric^^: so it looks good now, 'ubuntu' is my only boot option in bios
[02:15] <|aaron> hopefully it doesnt get wiped again when i boot windows
[02:15] <EriC^^> cool
[02:15] <EriC^^> yeah
[02:16] <Legendario> anyone with utopic?
[02:16] <|aaron> windows wanted to do startup repair but i told it no
[02:16] <agent_white> Good evening everyone
[02:16] <quidnunc> Legendario: #ubuntu+1
[02:16] <quidnunc> until tomorrow anyway
[02:17] <|aaron> yeah it did it again :(
[02:17] <|aaron> goddamit
[02:17] <EriC^^> |aaron: that sucks
[02:17] <Legendario> where is "security and privacy" option in utopic?
[02:17] <|aaron> was trying to install linux mint last night with the same problem
[02:17] <|aaron> i would realllllly like to not have to reinstall windows
[02:17] <Legendario> mine have disappeared
[02:17] <Legendario> have them taken it out?
[02:17] <EriC^^> |aaron: you could try to remove the .efi files it might confuse windows
[02:17] <|aaron> using an MBR partition isnt an option either, i have large hard drives
[02:17] <quidnunc> Legendario: I've lost almost everything in gnome-control-panel
[02:18] <EriC^^> |aaron: long shot though
[02:18] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: have you looked into RefindIt at all?
[02:18] <|aaron> wafflej0ck: no is that a grub alternative?
[02:18] <wafflej0ck> might be worth a shot think it works with GPT (though think grub does too) and works with UEFI I think
[02:19] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: yeah think in most cases it would sit in front of grub as an initial boot loader
[02:19] <Es0teric> wafflej0ck so if it was a ssh problem
[02:19] <Es0teric> what do you think it would be?
[02:19] <wafflej0ck> I've used it for hackintosh stuff and tried with a dual boot the other day but we didn't succeed because I didn't know about the .efi files and think I deleted the partition (we had backups though)
[02:19] <|aaron> wow these installation instructions are stupid complicated
[02:20] <|aaron> im just going to buy a second computer
[02:20] <Legendario> quidnunc, that too bad, cause I liked the option in there?
[02:20] <|aaron> this is fucking ridiculous
[02:20] <EriC^^> |aaron: you could try to modify windows bootloader so that it boots grubx64.efi , maybe
[02:20] <wafflej0ck> Es0teric: well if you're SSHed in you would typical be running the apache restart command in a terminal so it shouldn't complain about the lack of tty just only heard of SFTP with regard to file transfer
[02:20] <|aaron> i appreciate the help guys
[02:20] <Es0teric> wafflej0ck i see
[02:20] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: np good luck
[02:21] <wafflej0ck> Es0teric: I haven't used BeanStalk but I use EC2 a fair amount
[02:21] <quidnunc> Legendario: seems like a bug. Or maybe it's been mvoed
[02:21] <quidnunc> moved
[02:21] <Legendario> quidnunc, it doesn't appear to you too?
[02:22] <wafflej0ck> Es0teric: I'm surprised they don't have something in the web interface to restart the instance though
[02:22] <wafflej0ck> Es0teric: that's how it works with EC2
[02:23] <Es0teric> wafflej0ck they do have something in the web interface to restart the instance
[02:23] <wafflej0ck> oh right but just restart the service.... duh
[02:23] <wafflej0ck> sorry being stupid
[02:25] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: yeah for what it's worth I got a System76 which are typically tweaked Clevo's from what I understand and I've dual booted and now just run linux with windows in a VM and it's all hunky dory, you might also be able to get by disabling all the UEFI related stuff in the BIOS settings and partitioning manually like EriC^^ was suggesting
[02:25] <quidnunc> Legendario: I don't have security in gnome-control-panel
[02:25] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: once you have a solid setup I use Clonezilla to take backups of the entire disk
[02:26] <|aaron> im just going to buy another ssd
[02:26] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: cool yeah nice that the price is reasonable enough to do that now
[02:27] <|aaron> yeah haha i think i paid 4x for the one i have now
[02:27] <wafflej0ck> yeah for sure
[02:27] <wafflej0ck> mine was about $400 can get the same for $115 now
[02:27] <oniongirl> Hello everyone. I just instaleld Xubuntu for the first time and I am having some weird problems with my sound. It keeps jumping back and forth muteing itself and if I run alsa mixer it keeps going crazy flickering. Anyhow have any idea what this problem is? I had the same problem with linix mint.
[02:28] <wafflej0ck> oniongirl: no idea but would be good to check out what you're using, in a terminal use, lspci -k
[02:28] <wafflej0ck> oniongirl: pastebin that info or look for the relevant audio components and then search for that part in particular usually works out
[02:29] <EriC^^> |aaron: i'm curious, if you buy another ssd how'd that work
[02:29] <oniongirl> wafflej0ck,  thank you. http://pastebin.com/jA6p6m2e
[02:29] <EriC^^> |aaron: you're going to need to use gpt + efi , cause you're running uefi, so you'd use the efi partition on the first hdd?
[02:30] <EriC^^> |aaron: which is basically the same as now
[02:30] <sergio-br2> wafflej0ck https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1384522
[02:30] <EriC^^> |aaron: if you use another efi partition on the ssd and boot that instead
[02:31] <|aaron> but windows wouldnt be on the same disk
[02:31] <EriC^^> nevermind, i was thinking if you do another efi partition maybe windows wouldn't know about it or something
[02:31] <|aaron> so when it loads its not going to try to rewrite the bootloader on a different disk
[02:31] <|aaron> hopefully lol
[02:31] <|aaron> who knows with microsoft
[02:31] <wafflej0ck> |aaron: yeah otheriws you got ghost problems
[02:31] <EriC^^> i thought maybe you could make another efi partition or something and it'd be the same
[02:31] <|aaron> ive got the parts for a 2nd computer anyway it will end up being that
[02:33] <Legendario> #ubuntu-br
[02:33] <c34bon> hi
[02:34] <oniongirl> wafflej0ck,  any ideas?
[02:39] <loadedjd> Ubuntu 'eh
[02:40] <loadedjd> why no conversations
[02:40] <noah_> hi
[02:40] <loadedjd> hello
[02:40] <deitarion> I've got some application that seems to like to play random sounds at random times but I can't figure out what it is. Does anyone know of a way I could perhaps generate some kind of log of audio sent to PulseAudio?
[02:40] <noah_> unfortunately I do not
[02:40] <loadedjd> Maybe check site documnetation
[02:40] <noah_> Does anybody have experience with burg?
[02:40] <Shiru> Hello guys, the 14.10 will be available to download this month (23rd), right ?
[02:41] <noah_> think so
[02:41] <noah_> Does anybody have experience with burg?
[02:41] <noah_> hi
[02:42] <noah_> is anybody here?
[02:42] <squinty> Shiru:  /join @ubuntu+1
[02:42] <loadedjd> anything cool with 14.10 ?
[02:42] <squinty> sorry #ubuntu+1
[02:42] <noah_> hello?
[02:42] <loadedjd> hello noah
[02:42] <Shiru> squinty, thanks !
[02:43] <noah_> do you have experience with burg?
[02:43] <loadedjd> Burg being ?
[02:43] <loadedjd> Burger King
[02:43] <loadedjd> Whoppers are the shit
[02:43] <noah_> Burg bootloader it's an alternative to grub although it's built on it
[02:43] <loadedjd> No sorry I don't
[02:43] <squinty> loadedjd:  family channel... no swearing
[02:43] <wafflej0ck> oniongirl: so you have a Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio using this kernel module snd_hda_intel
[02:43] <wafflej0ck> oh gone
[02:44] <loadedjd> My apologies squinty
[02:44] <noah_> waffle? Do you have experience w/ burg?
[02:44] <squinty> noah_:  better to just state your problem rather than "does anyone..."  if someone can help they will reply
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> nope none
[02:44] <noah_> ok well it's been sitting on installing for a while now
[02:45] <noah_> I followed these instructions http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-make-your-dual-boot-better-with-burg
[02:45] <mightcould> um whats the ubuntu off topic channel name for chit-chat n tom foolery?
[02:46] <wafflej0ck> noah_: yea dunno I typically keep the boot loaders pretty vanilla
[02:46] <wafflej0ck> mightcould: !ot
[02:46] <bmelcher84> hey yall
[02:46] <squinty> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:46] <wafflej0ck> !ot | mightcould
[02:46] <mightcould> !0t? so #!ot  ?
[02:46] <wafflej0ck> mightcould: what squinty said
[02:46] <mightcould> im confused
[02:46] <noah_> should I kill the process? It seems to be taking unusualy long.
[02:46] <squinty> mightcould:  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <mightcould> squinty, oh ok tyvm
[02:47] <wafflej0ck> mightcould: !ot is the command to tell ubottu what to say that's all
[02:47] <bmelcher84> anyone know how to stop the screen from turning off every 10 mins of no activity?
[02:47] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: in your power settings should be an option
[02:47] <noah_> power options
[02:47] <squinty> bmelcher84:  check in system settings power section
[02:47] <bmelcher84> wafflej0ck, squinty I did
[02:48] <bmelcher84> I set it to never suspend and its still does it
[02:48] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: you plugged in too?
[02:48] <noah_> wafflej0ck: so is it safe to kill the process that is installing the bootloader?
[02:48] <bmelcher84> wafflej0ck, desktop ;)
[02:48] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: heh k yeah that answers that
[02:48] <bmelcher84> :p
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: I would just check for any screen saver settings or in the power options, on gnome here so it's a little different
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> but just had to change my power settings in here
[02:50] <bmelcher84> wafflej0ck, I would prefer gnome, also cant find any screen saver options
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> noah_: not sure since I'm not familiar withw hat that does
[02:50] <bmelcher84> seems like they hid everything from me
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: yeah gnome is pretty "cleaned up" too but with gnome tweaks I can activate everything extra I want
[02:50] <squinty> bmelcher84:  sorry it's system settings brightness and lock
[02:51] <noah_> wafflej0ck: boom
[02:51] <noah_> wafflej0ck: used sudo
[02:51] <noah_> wafflej0ck: it works now
[02:51] <wafflej0ck> noah_: ah k cool
[02:51] <noah_> wafflej0ck: on sudo it only took like two seconds :)
[02:51] <bmelcher84> wafflej0ck, "Turn screen off when inactive for: Never"
[02:51] <bmelcher84> o well, i plan on going to gnome anyways
[02:52] <danes> hello Im using lubntu as I want to get performance out of my old laptop but it is really slow. Just using firefox it takes a while to load pages and change tabs. My laptop has a 2duo 2.5 ghz, 4gb ram and 120ssd. Is processor degrading with time and making my pc much slower? I have it docked with two 22in monitors and the fan is always on
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: yeah would search for particulars on the exact version otherwise, use lsb_release -a to get the exact info
[02:52] <bmelcher84> which version of gnome is good these days? its been 5 years of no linux.. took the plunge and going all in to freshen up
[02:52] <rww> mate
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: I'm using Gnome 3 if you like Gnome 2 style more then go mate
[02:53] <squinty> danes: check your video driver    software and update > additional drivers   see if it says anything
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> bmelcher84: the latest Gnome 3 has some nice animations and workspace management and stuff though and doesn't feel overly flashy to me
[02:53] <bmelcher84> wafflej0ck, thats good
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> danes: like squinty said sounds like video driver problems
[02:53] <sgerbino> gnome shell ftw :D
[02:54] <squinty> bmelcher84:  if you currently have unity installed you can access gnome 3 via  Flashback  option on lightdm log on
[02:55] <wafflej0ck> danes: you might also want to check powertop to see if you can turn on any power saving features to reduce the heat
[02:55] <bmelcher84> squinty, okay, let me check that out
[02:56] <roasted> hello you wonderful people you
[02:56] <wafflej0ck> danes: the CPU shouldn't really degrade over time, only if it were to overheat will it really have problems and then it will be catastrophic, think most modern processors have failsafes to shut off before getting beyond the critical temperature though, typically if the CPU fan is working and heatsink is relatively clean they don't overheat often
[02:57] <roasted> I noticed that with netflix/chrome on 14.04 that I have some screen tearing (nvidia gt440, happens with nouveau and proprietary drivers), meannwhile XBMC is flawless. Has anybody else had screen tearing but only specifically with Netflix/Chrome itself on Nvidia? I don't recall seeing this on my last HTPC (Intel i5) which used onboard video...
[02:57] <squinty> bmelcher:   gnome-session-flashback         - GNOME Session Manager - GNOME Flashback session    you will need to install if first  :P
[02:57] <bmelcher84> squidly, im a little rusty on linux
[02:57] <bmelcher84> okay
[02:57] <bmelcher84> thanks, 1 sec
[02:58] <wafflej0ck> roasted: seems okay here on built in Intel HD 4000 chipset
[02:58] <mdih> hi is it posslbe to connect to ubuntu ntp servers over http proxy?
[02:59] <roasted> wafflej0ck: yeah, makes me want to rip out the nvidia and see how 14.04 runs on the G620 intel chip inside... I'm a little skeptical that it'll be nearly as high performing as what it is now. :(
[02:59] <wafflej0ck> roasted: yeah this thing is no gaming rig but it's fine for video and not seeing the tearing at all
[02:59] <danes> squinty: wafflej0ck I cant find the additional drivers as this is lubuntu and is a bit different. BTW I installed Arandr to extend my desktop
[02:59] <wafflej0ck> roasted: nice to have Netflix in Linux without hacks too
[03:00] <roasted> wafflej0ck: just to confirm, so you haven't used netflix/14.04 with nvidia?
[03:00] <roasted> wafflej0ck: indeed
[03:00] <squinty> roasted:  might be an idea to check with the Chrome people   Chrome here on a couple of computers consistently throws the "black screen" lockup.
[03:00] <Es0teric> ok so i get this error on sftp: sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[03:00] <wafflej0ck> danes: ah okay you can also check,  lspci -k | grep VGA -C5
[03:00] <roasted> squinty: I heard about that too but have not experienced it yet.
[03:01] <wafflej0ck> danes: that should show your graphics card and the loaded kernel module
[03:01] <Es0teric> this is part of my sudoers file: http://pastebin.com/QZz5Gk3Z
[03:01] <wafflej0ck> danes: you can install the drivers with apt-get
[03:01] <wafflej0ck> danes: for most cards
[03:02] <bmelcher84> gahh, no ad blocker
[03:02] <squinty> danes:  look in Menu for Software Updates.  once it is opened look for the additional drivers tab
[03:02] <bmelcher84> <--- quickly finds an ad blocker
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> roasted: yeah haven't tried it on my desktop with the card
[03:03] <roasted> wafflej0ck: yeah, if I can muster up the energy to go downstairs, I might fire up my desktop to see. That's running nvidia with propprietary drivers too.
[03:04] <danes> squinty, wafflej0ck  on the aditional drivers tab a message "searching for available drivers..." is shown butits been more than 2 mins and nothing...
[03:04] <squinty> danes: it can take a while
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> ^
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> danes: you can do the lspci -k | grep VGA -C5 while you wait too
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> danes: just to see the exact hardware/loaded module right now
[03:05] <squinty> danes: or install inxi and then type   inxi -Gx   to see all relevant information pertaining to your video card, drivers etc etc
[03:05] <danes> wafflej0ck: squinty   http://pastie.org/9669435   - and no additional drivers available
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> danes: ah yeah think there is some problem with the i915 drivers at least for some systems, a computer at my parents has some issue with this in 14.04 too, do you see anything about it in dmesg
[03:07] <roasted> wafflej0ck: well, I'm an idiot. I forgot I pulled the nvidia card out of my desktop after I realized the onboard video from the 3rd gen i3 in it was perfectly fine. That's where this nvidia card came from I threw on the shelf, and last night put in the htpc thinking "why not?" derp.
[03:07] <danes> wafflej0ck: [ 2006.534458] [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"if the current driver doesn't work.
[03:07] <richac> i can't believe the open source video drivers are so good now
[03:08] <danes> wafflej0ck: where or how can I set that parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"?
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> danes: hmm sorry not sure got out of my league on that...
[03:09] <wafflej0ck> not sure what that means
[03:09] <danes> squinty: any idea how to set "video.allow_duplicates=1"? with dmseg I see [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"if the current driver doesn't work.
[03:09] <bmelcher84> I know this video is not of the U.S. standards, but I just find it funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjD7txFblh8
[03:11] <squinty> bmelcher84:  not supposed to post that  off topic
[03:11] <wafflej0ck> danes: maybe https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143519
[03:11] <squinty> danes: google for that exact line.
[03:11] <wafflej0ck> danes: it's an arch post but says you can add it to menu.lst
[03:12] <wafflej0ck> er basically try it during boot as a parameter
[03:13] <wafflej0ck> think with how grub2 is split up in ubuntu you'd have to edit one of the custom files or whatever and then run update-grub but would have to look up the details
[03:13] <squinty> danes: suggest you fine one that relates to the instruction  "please try module parameter"  as per the information at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/where-do-i-put-this-line-4175432959/
[03:13] <squinty> danes:  try googling for that module parameter and "ubuntu" for a specific ubuntu answer though
[03:14] <wafflej0ck> yeah true distro+version helps so you don't go down the wrong path
[03:15] <danes> wafflej0ck, squinty thanks, I'll try your recommendations. This is so slow that is frustrating...
[03:15] <sergio-br2> k1l_ https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/256077
[03:16] <wafflej0ck> danes: yeah not having proper graphics acceleration is bad in any modern DE I think
[03:17] <wafflej0ck> maybe XFCE aside haven't tried lubuntu I don't think though, is that LXQT now?
[03:17] <squinty> danes: might want to try temporally installing another lighter desktop that doesn't require 3D rendering as unity does, until you fix your problem. then you could switch back
[03:19] <squinty> danes: you could also consider gnome-session-flashback    - GNOME Session Manager  which after installing and logging off can be selected at the lightdm log on.  lighter than unity
[03:21] <danes> squinty: hmmm, not sure if this is the case. I am using lubuntu with lxde
[03:23] <squinty> danes:  ahhh... shouldn't be the case then.  ok logging off for a while for now.  hope you find a solution :)
[03:27] <GladiaTeur> hi all, how do i change prompt from $ to fullpath
[03:29] <plauclair> Hi, I was handed over a Ubuntu 13.10 server to maintain (I usually run my own images of a different distro). Sometimes when I log in I am prompted to upgrade to the latest distro by running a command line. I was just wondering if I should take care about saving all settings and files (will they be overwritten by the new installation) or can I usually just run it and the old settings will port automatically?
[03:31] <somsip> GladiaTeur: http://linuxconfig.org/bash-prompt-basics
[03:32] <GladiaTeur> ok
[03:33] <rww> plauclair: regardless of the answer, you should take backups :\
[03:34] <plauclair> I have one every week or so, that’s not an issue
[03:34] <plauclair> I guess my main question is « how much breaking should I prepare to suffer for » ;)
[03:35] <plauclair> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html says do-release-upgrade will try to work around config changes but doesn’t specify what exactly it looks for
[03:38] <mdih> does ubuntu ntp server some have a web interface? so time can be checked over http?
[03:39] <Guest51516> Can someone tell me what this means http://goo.gl/eP6oQ9
[03:39] <richac> midh: ?
[03:39] <richac> mdih: ?>
[03:40] <xangua> don't click that
[03:40] <richac> ?
[03:40] <plauclair> it’s spam for a twitch channel
[03:40] <mdih> @richac, sorry. i meant does the ubuntu ntp server do have a corresponding web interface so the time can be checked over http?
[03:41] <plauclair> mdih, are you running your own or you’re accesing one that’s hosted by someone else
[03:41] <richac> mdih: what server?
[03:42] <richac> mdih: if your asking if there is some ntp server out there that you can access via web interface,  i'm not sure.  I doubt it lol
[03:43] <richac> don't take my word for it though
[03:44] <richac> mdih: you don't have a clock in your house?
[03:44] <mdih> richac: any ubuntu ntp server like x.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org, basically just curious if theres a way to connect to ntp server thru http proxy?
[03:44] <mdih> richac: though i understand that ntp pass thru port 123 so this might not be possible
[03:44] <plauclair> ntp is its own protocol
[03:45] <plauclair> you probably wouldn’t be allowed to pool such server
[03:45] <mdih> rechac: hence i asked if theres a corresponding web interface (if  by some chance, though unlikely. but no harm in asking haha)
[03:45] <richac> mdih: well i think there is many websites you can go to check the time
[03:49] <plauclair> why do you want to pool ntp through ntp
[03:50] <plauclair> *through http
[03:51] <nrdb> does anyone know if I can get dnsmasq to log dns queries
[03:51] <mdih> plauclair: because the proxy set is only for http. and its a bit troublesome to tweak the proxy server. and besides i dont have enough privilege to modify it haha
[03:52] <agent_white> So I know you can send the USR1 signal to dd to show a progress bar, is it possible to do the same for `mv` ?
[03:53] <richac> how do I run itunes on linux?
[03:53] <richac> nvm dumb question
[03:59] <richac> hello all I don't know what i just hit, some combination of ctrl alt and something else,   that changed my desktop wallpaper to the default blue and purple one,   and closed all my windows I had open
[03:59] <richac> (11:58:47 PM) richac: i thought maybe it sent me to another workspace or something but didin't know how to switch between them so I just logged out and in,    and i'm still having hte diff background?
[03:59] <richac> (11:58:58 PM) richac: what did I do and how do I fix it? lol
[04:00] <richac> i use kde
[04:01] <brent> hey guys im after a linux script which does the same as this windows .bat file i've been using for year - http://pastebin.com/tSEt41aA it basically moves everything from subfolders into the same folder the .bat file is in
[04:02] <richac> i mean i accidentally pressed my kb,  i know i hit ctrl  and alt key dunno what else.....and every one of my windows closed and the desktop background changed
[04:03] <richac> what the heck did I press?
[04:19] <makara> richac: ctrl+alt+function key for selecting tty
[04:19] <makara> maybe? i don't know kde
[04:19] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I clean up iptables on trusty ?
[04:20] <|aaron> when i installed i created two partitions, / and /home. but now im wishing /opt on the same partition as /home? is that possible?
[04:20] <rwp> |aaron, Use a symlinks to move the disk space.
[04:21] <makara> lkthomas: what are you trying to do
[04:21] <|aaron> rwp: i dont quite understand. what would i symlink to what?
[04:21] <lkthomas> makara: clean up all firewall rules, I don't need them.
[04:21] <makara> lkthomas: usually you don't mess with iptables directly
[04:21] <lkthomas> makara: does ufw still use iptables ?
[04:21] <rwp> rsync -av /opt /home/ && rm -rf /opt && ln -s ../home/opt /opt
[04:21] <|aaron> ah got u thanks!
[04:22] <makara> lkthomas: u mean instead of nftables?
[04:23] <makara> depends on the kernel I guess
[04:23] <lkthomas> ...
[04:24] <makara> lkthomas, read the man file
[04:24] <makara> lkthomas, sudo iptables -L
[04:24] <makara> lkthomas, sudo iptables -F
[04:25] <lkthomas> makara: thanks. I mean, does ufw is calling same thing as iptables ?
[04:27] <rwp> lkthomas, How did you install the iptables firewall rules? There are many ways you could have used. Impossible for us to know what you did.
[04:28] <rwp> lkthomas, Whatever you did, do the opposite to undo it. If you installed a package then uninstall it.
[04:28] <lkthomas> ok, nevermind then :)
[04:31] <mightcould> hello can someone please tell me how to open emerald theme manager? i googled it but all i could find is that it should be in system > preferences. but im on xubuntu and under system there is no preferences
[04:32] <rww> i thought emerald stopped being maintained years ago :\
[04:32] <mightcould> nvm i found it, it was under just plain settings not system. ty anyways
[04:33] <rww> !emerald
[04:33] <rww> guess so.
[04:33] <mightcould> yeah thats what i hear, but i only been using linux for 2 days now and i wanna customize my client to look super cute and futuristic :D
[04:33] <david96> anyone know how I can get a sound and battery icons on xubuntu?
[04:34] <david96> I have none
[04:34] <david96> and there is no option when i check the panel widgets or whatever
[04:34] <cfhowlett> david96, I have both.  go to panel > add new items
[04:34] <mightcould> david96, yeah me nither. i have to have a pulseaudio window open to check my sound levels
[04:35] <neurosis> mightcould http://bruce.krash.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Screenshot-from-2014-10-21-102038.png
[04:35] <david96> I don't have battery or sound under there though
[04:35] <neurosis> futuristic
[04:35] <cfhowlett> david96, you need to add the indicator applet
[04:35] <david96> oooh, thats what it was, thanks
[04:38] <Joomlah> Hello
[04:38] <rww> mightcould: not a great idea, but it's your time I guess. Please bear in mind though that Emerald isn't supported here at all :|
[04:39] <mightcould> rww yes i heard, emerald is old and there is no support for it anymore.
[04:39] <mightcould> like windows xp
[04:40] <mightcould> neurosis, that link doesnt seem to wanna load
[04:49] <elb0w> So im running ubuntu on gnome. I unstalled the default network manager to install wicd. I want to go back, does anyone have any idea what to run?
[04:50] <xangua> elb0w: why¿ also did you install wicd-gtk
[04:51] <elb0w> xangua: it was recommended on a thread. I am using ubuntu on my surface pro 3
[04:51] <elb0w> xangua: nvm I figured it out
[04:51] <l0rdn1x> elb0w: just uninstall the wicd and then reinstall network-manager maybe?
[04:51] <mightcould> do workspaces not save after a restart?
[04:52] <l0rdn1x> mightcould: depends.
[04:52] <elb0w> l0rdn1x: yeah, I did that when I just rebooted it worked
[04:52] <mightcould> is there a way to save my settings so upon a restart i can still have my 3d cube desktop? kinda sad all my work went out the window
[04:53] <l0rdn1x> mightcould: that depends on your Desktop Environment / Window Manager
[04:55] <mightcould> l0rdn1x, well i have xubuntu 14.04 with compiz latest version. could you explain the setting i need so my settings are saved?
[04:58] <mojtaba> Hi, I have these files in a directory. Do you know how can I put "part number" in front of the files? (and preferably remove that part number from the middle of the file name.) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8635991/
[05:00] <l0rdn1x> mightcould: sorry I'm not sure.
[05:01] <l0rdn1x> mojtaba: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2126959
[05:02] <neurosis> Utopic Unicorn 14.10 October 23 2014 the new Ubuntu 14.10
[05:02] <l0rdn1x> lol
[05:02] <mightcould> ok, ill ask around tomorrow afternoon. im sure someone knows how not to lose their wm settings every restart. im quite amazing that such a thing happens actually. i spent 2 hours atleast customizing my desktop just how i wanted it and now its all gone :(
[05:04] <mojtaba> l0rdn1x: This does not solve my case. the numbers are not constant
[05:04] <mightcould> ya know... now that i think about it. probably has something to do with me switching wm's.
[05:04] <richac> everytime i open or close chromium,  there is two connections to 224.0.0.22 no port protocol 2.   what the heck is that all about?
[05:05] <l0rdn1x> richac: could be the sandbox chromium launches ?
[05:07] <klrspz> anyone have a suggestion for a good DLNA client? I want to send video/audio to an XBMC client
[05:07] <richac> l0rdn1x: well i know chromium listens on port 5353 for some reason
[05:07] <richac> but this is diff
[05:07] <richac> not sure
[05:08] <richac> it comes up in pgl,  so maybe its just mislabeled as the igmp address and its really something else
[05:08] <richac> i'm going to try and load chromium with no addons
[05:08] <l0rdn1x> richac: sounds like its up to no good, put it in complain mode and check out the logs maybe?
[05:09] <neurosis> i just installed XBMC that is so cool
[05:09] <klrspz> I wish NetBios stuff was easier in linux, considering how popular it is
[05:09] <klrspz> neurosis: i love xbmc
[05:09] <richac> l0rdn1x: ya has nothing to do with the logs
[05:09] <richac> i mean  addons
[05:09] <klrspz> or should I say "Kodi"
[05:10] <richac> l0rdn1x: do you mean with apparmor?
[05:10] <l0rdn1x> richac: yeah
[05:10] <richac> whats weird is it doesn't come up in wireshark,  even if I allow it with pgl.
[05:10] <richac> l0rdn1x: what is protocol 2?
[05:12] <l0rdn1x> richac: http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers/protocol-numbers.xhtml  this shows all the protocols
[05:13] <richac> tyvm,  yep ok igmp
[05:13] <richac> i have igmp blocked in sysctl.conf too i guess thats why it doesn't show up on wireshark
[05:13] <richac> but pgl is blocking the attempt which doesn't make any sense
[05:14] <richac> well wait a sec actually,  is igmp setting in sysctl?
[05:17] <klrspz> DLNA client suggestions? I want to do the equiv of PLay To on windows
[05:17] <sushith> clear
[05:18] <richac> l0rdn1x: how do I disable igmp?  its icmp thats in sysctl.
[05:20] <l0rdn1x> richac: I don't think you can disable it, one moment.
[05:21] <richac> l0rdn1x: oh come on don't tell me that dude,  i can disable it in windows
[05:21] <richac> a grub line command option maybe, i've been trying to google how
[05:21] <richac> o vsm
[05:21] <richac> sorry
[05:27] <richac> Sauvin: how do I disable IGMP in linux
[05:27] <klrspz_> sorry, got disconnected...
[05:28] <klrspz_> curious if anyone has any DLNA clients they suggest... Trying to do the equiv of Windows' PLAY TO where it sends a video/audio to a DLNA renderer
[05:28] <richac> Sauvin:  is it only possible in windows?
[05:28] <richac> Sauvin: is windows safer?
[05:28] <hateball> richac: you may have better luck in ##linux since it's a rather general question
[05:28] <richac> hateball: hahahaha
[05:28] <richac> hateball: your a funny guy
[05:28] <hateball> richac: Thank you
[05:29] <richac> hateball: can you ask sauvin for me?
[05:31] <rgb-one> hello
[05:31] <richac> rgb-one: how do I disable IGMP
[05:32] <rgb-one> GIMP?
[05:32] <richac> lol
[05:32] <richac> no IGMP
[05:32] <richac> multicast broadcast
[05:32] <richac> to 224.0.0.22
[05:32] <l0rdn1x> He wants to disable the Internet Group Management Protocol
[05:32] <l0rdn1x> lol
[05:32] <richac> GIMP  that was a good one though
[05:33] <richac> ya i mean i always disable it in my router and in windows,  i'm new to linux,  i want to know how, google isn't helping me
[05:33] <l0rdn1x> richac: Do you know what IGMP is?
[05:33] <richac> i know i don't need it
[05:33] <rgb-one> I haven't a clue
[05:33] <richac> at all...
[05:34] <richac> l0rdn1x: ya its a security risk
[05:34] <richac> lol
[05:34] <l0rdn1x> richac: I think you need it, check this out, you got me searching too. lmao  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Group_Management_Protocol
[05:34] <richac> l0rdn1x: did you not read what I said
[05:34] <richac> i disable it in my router and in windows
[05:34] <richac> i don't need it
[05:34] <l0rdn1x> Are you sure your not disabling, ICMP echo packets?
[05:34] <richac> l0rdn1x: i disable that too
[05:35] <richac> l0rdn1x: in windows there is a special terminal command to disable it
[05:37] <l0rdn1x> richac: lmao are you messin with me
[05:38] <richac> l0rdn1x: hahaha no man.   Netsh interface ipv4 set global mldlevel=none
[05:38] <staticshock007> hi
[05:38] <richac> l0rdn1x: http://hardenwindows7forsecurity.com/Harden%20Windows%207%20Home%20Premium%2064bit%20-%20Standalone.html
[05:38] <staticshock007> noob here
[05:38] <richac> l0rdn1x: i did see that protocol used once in life
[05:39] <staticshock007> what are the primary advantages of updating to 14.10
[05:39] <richac> l0rdn1x: it was for special portable devices,  that i just can't remember right now and its bothering me
[05:39] <richac> w/e it is, its something we dont' use in my house
[05:39] <richac> its somethign the avg person doesn't need
[05:39] <l0rdn1x> richac: routers
[05:39] <ImJune> Can someone help me with an issue regarding screen blacking out during youtube playback
[05:40] <richac> l0rdn1x: huh?
[05:40] <richac> l0rdn1x: its not needed for anything man
[05:40] <staticshock007> has someone tried the beta version of 14.10? any improvements from 14.04?
[05:40] <l0rdn1x> richac: Oh I'll find out how to disable it if it can be disabled.
[05:41] <staticshock007> still thinking whether to update to 14.10 or not
[05:41] <Ben64> staticshock007: 14.10 support and discussion in #ubuntu+1
[05:41] <richac> l0rdn1x: yes please man i bet you
[05:41] <richac> *beg
[05:41] <ImJune> cool beans
[05:41] <richac> it has been on my to learn list,   but now with this chromium thing,  i want to do it asap
[05:42] <l0rdn1x> richac: I'll find out and if your not on this channel I will send you a Memo
[05:42] <staticshock007> thanks
[05:42] <richac> l0rdn1x: tks i appreciate it
[05:42] <ender> which is better windows or ubuntu
[05:43] <ImJune> lol
[05:43] <ImJune> you came to this room to ask that question?
[05:43] <richac> l0rdn1x: apple airplay uses it
[05:45] <ender> who likes windows
[05:45] <richac> lol i'm laughing at the verizon forums saying its needed for DVR,   we have a dvr box and its not needed lol
[05:45] <ender> &5lol
[05:45] <Ben64> ender: this is not the channel for that topic
[05:46] <richac> wait i'm sorry apparenlty the fix for apple airplay device,  was to disable igmp...lmao
[05:46] <richac> i swear i did see it used once though
[05:46] <ender> §5Ubuntu
[05:47] <ender> dang
[05:47] <rww> ender: You're in #ubuntu, we're going to say Ubuntu. For general sensible chat, see #ubuntu-offtopic instead.
[05:47] <ender> how do u do coulored text
[05:48] <ender> and is there a way to move the applacation bar somewhere else
[05:48] <xangua> ender: if you mean unity launcher, no
[05:48] <ender> aww
[05:48] <ender> and how come your text is red
[05:49] <rww> ender: because they started the message with your nick
[05:49] <ender> ok
[05:51] <neurosis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKgLAAMcM8 lol
[05:54] <mojtaba> Hi, I have these files in a directory. Do you know how can I put "part number" in front of the files? (and preferably remove that part number from the middle of the file name.) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8635991/
[05:57] <ignerious> hello I am trying to play 1080p .mp4 file with totem but I am getting this error "GStreamer error: negotiation problem."
[05:58] <ignerious> Please help me
[05:58] <l0rdn1x> richac: Check this page. http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/erx/erx402/swconfig-routing-vol1/html/ip-multicast-config10.html
[05:58] <l0rdn1x> enjoy
[06:00] <richac> l0rdn1x: awsome tks,  ok so I would do  ip igmp version no   ?
[06:00] <richac> <ip igmp version no>  ?
[06:02] <richac> l0rdn1x: i'm doing something wrong..  object "igmp" is unknown, try "ip help"
[06:02] <richac> l0rdn1x: also we are on igmpv3 now i think
[06:03] <Symmetria> what are you multicasting as a matter of interest?
[06:03] <richac> Symmetria: nothing i want to disable it
[06:03] <richac> Symmetria: I don't know how to disable igmp in linux
[06:05] <Symmetria> why do you want to disable it? I suppose in a linux context if you're not using it at all, you'll be ok, but be careful because certain things rely on multicast that a lot of people don't realize
[06:05] <Symmetria> (ipv6 ND, OSPF, etc)
[06:05] <Symmetria> disabling any and all multicast is a little like disabling any and all icmp, neither is a good idea unless you fully understand the consequences
[06:05] <richac> Symmetria: i always disable it for more security
[06:05] <viddy_> and how do you reckon that gives you more security
[06:05] <richac> Symmetria: I also disable ALL ICMP
[06:05] <richac> viddy_: is that a serious question?
[06:06] <viddy_> yes
[06:06] <viddy_> this sounds like a really bad case of "you have no idea what you're actually doing", and you're just disabling stuff for the sake of disabling it.
[06:06] <ultrixx> hi! why isn't 14.10 out yet?
[06:06] <richac> viddy_: security 101,  if its not needed,  disable it
[06:06] <richac> i don't need to keep broadcasting to the network
[06:07] <viddy_> you don't need to stop it either. as an example, if you are behind a router with NAT, how much multicast is going on behind that router is irrelevant for your security
[06:07] <richac> viddy_: so your one of those guys ...lmao
[06:07] <viddy_> yes, i work in security
[06:07] <richac> viddy_: thats real sad
[06:07] <ignerious> hello I am trying to play 1080p .mp4 file with totem but I am getting this error "GStreamer error: negotiation problem."
[06:07] <ignerious> Please help me
[06:07] <viddy_> and we actually have to have a reason for disabling things
[06:07] <viddy_> and have to make good points for it
[06:07] <richac> viddy_: real real sad
[06:07] <ignerious> anyone please
[06:08] <richac> viddy_: you have to make good pionts for disabling services nobody uses
[06:08] <richac> viddy_: thats interesting
[06:08] <Ben64> ignerious: try using a different player, such as mplayer2
[06:08] <viddy_> yes, we have something called customers. and they use services :>
[06:08] <richac> viddy_: SECURITY 101 =  DISABLE ALL SERVICES THAT ARE NOT USED
[06:08] <richac> viddy_: well I don't use this servce,   so I want to disable it
[06:09] <richac> viddy_: if your inferiority complex is kicking in,  and you simply don't know how to disable it,  don't respond to me
[06:09] <ignerious> Ben64: i have tried with Parole but same thaing
[06:09] <viddy_> you don't even know what you want to disable, man
[06:09] <richac> viddy_: your the one who apparenlty doesn't know what I want to disable
[06:09] <richac> viddy_: and you work in security?  your either a lying sack,   or thats really sad
[06:10] <viddy_> well, i'm fairly sure already that you have no idea what you're talking about, so I don't take that statement very seriously
[06:10] <Ben64> ignerious: ok, try mplayer2
[06:10] <Symmetria> richac disabling multicast wont give you more security
[06:10] <Symmetria> and it may break things you didnt anticipate :)
[06:10] <Symmetria> heh, there is this myth that disabling all sorts of things helps security always, but often, it does very little to help security and infact causes a ton of unintended consequences because people don't truely understand how the things they are disabling relate to things they use
[06:10] <Symmetria> (icmp is a classic example, denying all ICMP is a singularly bad idea)
[06:10] <richac> viddy_: and i take it you don't know how to disable IGMP on linux.   and it hurts your feeble mind
[06:10] <viddy_> nice try
[06:10] <richac> viddy_: tks for confirming
[06:10] <richac> viddy_: since you don't know how to disable IGMP,   and since you don't even know what its used for
[06:10] <Ben64> richac: the attitude is not necessary here
[06:11] <richac> viddy_: you should stop responding to me now
[06:11] <viddy_> of course i know what IGMP and ICMP are used for
[06:11] <richac> viddy_: tell me what IGMP is used for?
[06:11] <richac> viddy_: then tell me how to disable it
[06:11] <richac> viddy_: linux people.....so sad lol
[06:11] <viddy_> its used for multiple things, not limited to but e.g multicast memberships, and this is used for a whole bunch of services
[06:12] <richac> viddy_: services I don't use
[06:12] <richac> viddy_: sevices I don't use,    when a linux person has his ego deflated a little,  and his inferority complex kicks in,  he tries to talk you out of what he doesn't understand
[06:12] <richac> its pretty a typical on IRC
[06:12] <l0rdn1x> richac: So far man the only way I can think to disable it would be to edit the configuration of your kernel and just disable it, recompile.
[06:12] <richac> i want to know how to disable IGMP,    and because you don't know how,  you get offende
[06:13] <richac> l0rdn1x: hmmm
[06:13] <Ben64> richac: really, stop with the attacks. if someone here doesn't provide you with the answer you like, you can wait
[06:13] <richac> Ben64: what is your problem ben?
[06:13] <ultrixx> richac: go bsing elsewhere
[06:13] <richac> Ben64: i'm the one getting attacked!!!!
[06:13] <Ben64> richac: i have no problem, you're being aggressive
[06:13] <richac> i'm not surprised though......i'm deflating bubbles
[06:13] <viddy_> richac: you can't "disable igmp", thats the point. igmp is a method of traffic, so if something is sending/receiving igmp-packets you have to stop whatever is actually sending it
[06:13] <richac> ban the guy deflating bubbles
[06:13] <viddy_> richac: what you CAN do is -block- igmp
[06:13] <richac> ...
[06:14] <richac> viddy_: i'm already blocking it!!!!
[06:14] <richac> i want it disabled period
[06:14] <ultrixx> richac: you behave like a 6 year old
[06:14] <viddy_> well then you have "disabled" it, you have done what you want
[06:14] <richac> viddy_: wrong mr fail security guy
[06:14] <viddy_> this is like saying you want to disable "ip packets"
[06:14] <richac> viddy_: wrong again
[06:14] <Ben64> richac: then go recompile your kernel and stop filling this channel with pointless chatter
[06:15] <viddy_> richac: seriously? are you really this dense. if something on your network is sending a packet, thats what you want to stop
[06:15] <richac> l0rdn1x: ty for not getting offended by me,   do you have any links on what kernel parameters or options or needed when making the kernel?
[06:15] <richac> viddy_: stop respoinding to me now,  I'm sorry you don't know how to disable IGMP
[06:15] <richac> viddy_: maybe after I learn,  I can teach you
[06:15] <richac> lol
[06:15] <viddy_> or maybe after you learn how stuff actually works, you can come back and apologize
[06:15] <Ben64> richac: how about you stop antagonizing people volunteering their time to solve your silly problem
[06:16] <richac> I mean my goodness,  I thought disabling IGMP was standard hardneing practice for a standalone machine
[06:16] <richac> you people are acting like i'm from planet mars,  and viddy is a "security" guy
[06:16] <richac> wtf
[06:16] <ignerious> Ben64: it can play it
[06:16] <mojtaba> Hi, I have these files in a directory. Do you know how can I put "part number" in front of the files? (and preferably remove that part number from the middle of the file name.) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8635991/
[06:16] <viddy_> richac: if you want to effectively stop igmp from being used, there are many possibilities. one of them is actually disabling multicast
[06:16] <Ben64> ignerious: problem solved! :D
[06:17] <ignerious> Ben64: but i want it to play with Parole
[06:17] <ignerious> Ben64: pleasee
[06:17] <Ben64> ignerious: i've never heard of parole, but if it can't play it, it probably isn't a great player
[06:17] <xangua> ignerious: parole player you mean¿
[06:17] <ignerious> yeah
[06:18] <xangua> it looks cool and very lighweigth but even when it is based on gstreamer neither could play some files to me unlike totem, it also had some issues with dvd's ignerious
[06:19] <ignerious> xangua: yeah
[06:19] <ignerious> xangua: so can the error of Gstreamer be fixed?
[06:19] <l0rdn1x> richac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile when you get your kernel configuration open, disable IGMP/MLD snooping
[06:19] <jesse_> I wonder when Ubuntu 14.10 will be released :-D i'm hoping there will be news here when its been uploaded
[06:20] <ultrixx> hey guys ubuntu home page still offers 14.04 for download. is this normal?
[06:20] <Ben64> jesse_: there will be, you just have to wait
[06:20] <Flannel> ultrixx: Yes, why wouldn't it be?
[06:20] <Ben64> ultrixx: yep, its the latest version, and also the latest LTS
[06:20] <l0rdn1x> richac: also http://www.linux.org/threads/the-linux-kernel-configuring-the-kernel-part-8.4525/
[06:20] <ultrixx> i thought 14.10 is out today
[06:20] <richac> l0rdn1x: tks man i appreciate it
[06:21] <viddy_> for the sake of the argument, disabling igmp snooping will not disable igmp ;)
[06:21] <ihateindy> 14.04 LTS is why its still on the homepage
[06:21] <Ben64> ultrixx: its out some time within the next 96 hours
[06:21] <l0rdn1x> viddy_: this is both IGMP/MLD in the kernel
[06:21] <richac> l0rdn1x: what I might do is just search the .config for everything that says IGMP
[06:21] <l0rdn1x> viddy_: yes it will disable
[06:21] <ultrixx> Ben64: thanks
[06:21] <viddy_> l0rdn1x: yeah, but it will disable igmp _snooping_, the machine can still send igmp packets
[06:22] <viddy_> but yes, it will effectively render it useless
[06:22] <ignerious> xangua: so can the error of Gstreamer be fixed?
[06:22] <richac> viddy_: its the same thing
[06:22] <richac> i don't want my "client"  to broadcast
[06:22] <jesse_> Ben64: Yeah... I know :)
[06:22] <viddy_> richac: thats exactly what it won't stop
[06:22] <Ben64> ignerious: why does it need to be gstreamer? mplayer works you said
[06:23] <viddy_> richac: igmp snooping will disable it receiving, not it sending
[06:23] <xangua> ignerious: "the error" ? Also I just told you I had troubles with it too
[06:23] <richac> viddy_: what?
[06:23] <richac> hmm
[06:23] <richac> i'll just disable everything that says IGMP
[06:24] <viddy_> you're gonna have a field day in the kernel settings, if you get there.
[06:24] <sacarlson> anyone want to help me test the new Backdoor software I just released? so far only tested on my local network https://github.com/sacarlson/Backdoor
[06:24] <viddy_> so many things you can disable
[06:24] <ignerious> xangua: yeah "the error"
[06:24] <richac> grep  IGMP  .config
[06:24] <richac> done
[06:24] <richac> =n
[06:24] <viddy_> oh, but you have to check all the settings
[06:24] <viddy_> could be something in there you have to disable
[06:24] <viddy_> since you're not using it
[06:24] <viddy_> security 101 you know
[06:24] <richac> viddy_: your not the smartest in the room,  can u get lost now?
[06:24] <viddy_> oh but you said so yourself
[06:24] <richac> viddy_: thinks igmp snooping is not a security risk
[06:25] <viddy_> security 101, man
[06:25] <richac> haha
[06:25] <richac> viddy_: i'm on my own compiled kernel right now
[06:25] <Flannel> richac: I'm just going to hop in here and repeat what's already been said: The folks in this channel are volunteers, and your attitude should reflect that.
[06:25] <ultrixx> wow he can compile a kernel great
[06:25] <richac> Flannel: i think whats going on here,  is you must like viddy more then me.   cause hes the one thats being insulting
[06:25] <richac> i feel bad for whoever hires him for their security
[06:26] <viddy_> I hope he's happy with his IGMP snooping disable, lets hope he doesnt install something that tries to send multicast, cause then he will be sending IGMP ;)
[06:26] <l0rdn1x> viddy_: if he disables it in the kernel it wont send anything
[06:27] <viddy_> l0rdn1x: snooping is just the listening part, as long as he has multicast enabled it can still send
[06:28] <viddy_> unless that kernel parameter does more than i think it does, i'm not gonna be like him and claim im 100% right without backing it up
[06:28] <viddy_> ;)
[06:28] <Symmetria> lol
[06:28] <Symmetria> wait, if its not needed disable it, I can kinda understand that
[06:28] <Symmetria> the problem is the "if its not needed" bit
[06:28] <viddy_> yeah, the general logic i can understand
[06:28] <edition> my computer has 4gb of ram, but ubuntu report 3.3gb. Why?
[06:28] <edition> *reports
[06:29] <viddy_> but if you want to follow that logic 100%, you're gonna have a bad time
[06:29] <Symmetria> he obviously doesnt understand what is needed and what is not
[06:29] <Symmetria> viddy, well, you can follow the logic if you understand what is needed and what isnt
[06:29] <viddy_> yeah, but to understand everything in e.g the kernel on that level
[06:29] <Symmetria> and he obviously doesnt understand how ICMP is used, because ICMP is very very very necessary
[06:29] <SonikkuAmerica> edition: There's a difference. 1 GB is 1000 MB. 1 GiB is 1024 MiB. Powers of 10 vs. powers of 2
[06:29] <Flannel> Guys, he's gone, lets just move on.
[06:29] <viddy_> yeah, people seem to think ICMP means ICMP ping
[06:29] <viddy_> ping/echo
[06:29] <Symmetria> viddy, well, its not even the kernel, on the debate about icmp, thats networking 101
[06:30] <viddy_> Symmetria: yeah, if we're talking networking thats one thing
[06:30] <Symmetria> oh well :) lol, talking about networking, Im happy to say I got LACP working rather nicely on ubuntu
[06:30] <Ben64> edition: can you pastebin both "uname -a" and "free -m"
[06:31] <sacarlson> viddy_: can't you just iptables fileter ICMP if desired?
[06:31] <Symmetria> heh, enabled a 2 x 10G LAG into the east african ubuntu mirrors last night to ensure that we had capacity for todays release
[06:31] <viddy_> sacarlson: you can iptables filter most things, yes. so yes you can
[06:31] <Symmetria> sacarlson you can, but its a bad idea :)
[06:31] <sacarlson> Symmetria: I guess they do on windows as I can't ping them
[06:32] <viddy_> sacarlson: icmp ping is just one small part of icmp
[06:32] <Symmetria> sacarlson ping/echo reply is one tiny component of ICMP
[06:32] <viddy_> yeah, in iptables thats --icmp-type 8
[06:32] <viddy_> and thats usually safe to disable
[06:32] <viddy_> but again you should have a reason for disabling it, ping is usually not the biggest risk to worry about
[06:32] <viddy_> ;)
[06:32] <sacarlson> viddy_: Symmetria and I suspect any part of icmp can be filtered if desired and still usable
[06:33] <edition> http://pastebin.com/8m0301fw
[06:34] <sacarlson> edition: ok some mem
[06:34] <Symmetria> sacarlson, well, you can filter whatever, but filtering things like icmp redirect
[06:34] <Symmetria> and icmp PMTU can break things, *badly*
[06:35] <viddy_> yeah, most stuff will _probably_ still work
[06:35] <viddy_> but things will definitely break
[06:35] <Symmetria> the thing is, if you send a packet, and its 2 large for the MTU, the system is going to reply (via icmp) saying, send me smaller packets
[06:35] <Symmetria> if you dont get that icmp reply, your session is going to be screwed and your networking will break
[06:35] <viddy_> also, these days there are not many good reasons left for disabling icmp ping. before it was for DoS-reasons, but ping packets are so small now compared to bandwidth its not really an argument any longer.
[06:36] <edition> HP definitely said 4gb of ram, unless I'm wrong.
[06:36] <Symmetria> same for example on ICMP redirects, and Im not going to go into exactly how all that works, but you need that crap :)
[06:36] <ignerious> Ben64: how to play HEVC or H265  vedio file with mplayer
[06:36] <ignerious> Ben64: how to play HEVC or H.265  vedio file with mplayer
[06:37] <hateball> edition: what GPU do you have, does it share internal RAM?
[06:37] <Ben64> edition: yeah i think the only thing could be gpu taking some ram or something like that
[06:37] <Ben64> ignerious: usually just "mplayer file"
[06:38] <edition> :)
[06:38] <ignerious> Ben64: it is playing the audio but not the vedio of H.265 .mp4 file
[06:39] <edition> but I have a seperate graphics card?
[06:39] <ignerious> Ben64: it is unable to decode the H.265
[06:40] <hateball> edition: what's the output of "lspci |grep VGA"
[06:40] <edition> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek [Radeon HD 6520G]
[06:40] <edition> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series] (rev ff)
[06:41]  * hateball sees AMD, runs for the hills
[06:44] <hateball> edition: Seriously tho, I have little experience with modern AMD things. But could it be that it has some sort of GPU switching tech akin to nvidias optimus, and you're actually running on the CPU (APU?) rather than discrete GPU?
[06:45] <edition> its using an APU.
[06:46] <Guest91925> в хексе кто шарит есть такие?
[06:46] <Guest91925> someone know about hex?
[06:46] <ignerious> Ben64: it is unable to decode the H.265
[06:48] <rww> Guest91925: #ubuntu is an English-language Ubuntu Linux technical support room.
[06:48] <Guest91925> rww me need really help about hex :) because i dont know how i can pick system.img + boot.img from .bin
[06:56] <xbashx> can i convince "dpkg -l" to list packages only when they are not libraries or when they are in a certain group?
[07:03] <Abhijit> how can I list current harddisk from the ubuntu default shell ash?
[07:03] <Abhijit> defauld build-in shell ash
[07:03] <sijo_> Hi,  Is ubuntu 14.04 is coming libvirt default installed...?
[07:04] <konsumkiller> hi @ll
[07:04] <konsumkiller> i've got a simple question and hope you guys can respond to it adequately
[07:05] <konsumkiller> how to put a hole in my routers firewall to run a tor server on an xubuntu 14.04 machine (with two NICs)?
[07:09] <franko_> hola
[07:10] <parsix> I have a debian based linux but my wifi card dosen't works can you help me it is  Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[07:10] <parsix> I have a debian based linux but my wifi card dosen't works can you help me it is  Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[07:10] <parsix> I have a debian based linux but my wifi card dosen't works can you help me it is  Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[07:10] <parsix> I have a debian based linux but my wifi card dosen't works can you help me it is  Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[07:10] <parsix> I have a debian based linux but my wifi card dosen't works can you help me it is  Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[07:10] <parsix> I have a debian based linux but my wifi card dosen't works can you help me it is  Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[07:11] <napcode> parsix, these kind of things really help. Now no one is going to answer your question.
[07:11] <Tarius> broadcom wifi are problematic :) I have also problem with this card
[07:12] <parsix> how can I solve the problem
[07:13] <Abhijit> how can I list current harddisk from the ubuntu default built in shell ash?
[07:13] <Tarius> parsix try drivers from vendor if any , I have module in ubuntu that detect special devices that not work in linux correctly
[07:14] <parsix> Tarius thanks
[07:14] <only_you> parsix: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[07:14] <Abhijit> napcode, see, it did! :-p
[07:14] <Ben64> Abhijit: what do you mean "list current harddisk"
[07:15] <Abhijit> Ben64, fdisk is not working is ash. no parted either. i want to see disks and partitions on it
[07:15] <parsix> only_you thanks
[07:15] <Tarius> parsix only_you write you correct answer this help also for me bud i forged package name :D
[07:15] <Ben64> Abhijit: maybe don't use ash then
[07:15] <Abhijit> Ben64, hmm.
[07:15] <konsumkiller> fullack napcode
[07:15] <Abhijit> how can I list current harddisk from the ubuntu "default built in shell ash"?
[07:16] <Abhijit> Ben64, does anyhing makes sesnse ^
[07:16] <konsumkiller> and i do not see, even my own question anymore
[07:16] <Ben64> Abhijit: no
[07:16] <Abhijit> Ben64, leave it. its not in english. I know if it was in english you could have answered.
[07:16] <konsumkiller> got to go now to buy food, would be nice if you could answer my question when i return
[07:17] <Abhijit> Ben64, Can you imagine a situation where - I do have a choice of not using ash, but still I am using it, think, why would i do that?
[07:17] <Ben64> Abhijit: seems like you're using ash but you don't know how to use it. it works like any other shell, parted and/or fdisk will work fine
[07:17] <Abhijit> oh. so it me who dont know.
[07:18] <Abhijit> Ben64, I thought while using computers we just type command and press enter. May be this ash detected that its me and instead of executing comand started giving me errors.
[07:21] <konsumkiller> i am so tired, can't buy food. got to sleep... until then...
[07:22] <cable> sleep well konsumkiller
[07:22] <lonix> So im thinking of haveing my cloud server host a subset of my mediafiles (e.g. from the last 30days), and pulling the rest over vpn from home, automaticly perhaps when the file is called or something.
[07:23] <lonix> Anyone have any ideas
[07:23] <cable> good question lonix , allot of programming involved xd
[07:23] <cable> whats your skill of programming"?
[07:23] <cable> and why don't you stream it always ? :)
[07:24] <Abhijit> anyone here ever heard of something called as Busybox shell (ash) ?
[07:24] <Ben64> busybox is not the same thing as ash
[07:25] <lonix> cable: i can program some, mostly python
[07:25] <lonix> as in always draw file from home location ?
[07:25] <iromli> hi all, recently i was trying to make video call using google hangouts. unfortunately, my webcam goes blank whenever the session started. It was working fine 2 months ago. For the record, i'm using ubuntu 12.04, integrated webcam (lenovo easy camera), google-talkplugin v5.4.x. Any pointer where I can take a look?
[07:25] <Abhijit> Ben64, but i already told you. that ubuntu iso detects that its me and its showing me this sentence : Busybox build in shell ( ash)  note the in bracket ash? I told you? it detects me?
[07:26] <Abhijit> Ben64, otherwise , as "you" stated, even thought busybox is not same as ash why should that screen show so?
[07:26] <Ben64> Abhijit: not sure what you're doing or what you're doing this on, starting to suspect it isn't ubuntu
[07:26] <Abhijit> Ben64, I appreciatie your patience. I mean .....
[07:26] <Abhijit> I dont have words.
[07:27] <Ben64> are you on ubuntu?
[07:27] <Abhijit> Ben64, No.
[07:27] <Ben64> then why are you asking here?
[07:28] <Abhijit> Ben64,  seriously ....
[07:28] <quazimodo> yo I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04
[07:28] <Abhijit> Please tell me you are just being funny and not asking seriously.
[07:28] <Ben64> Abhijit: yes, seriously, this is #ubuntu for ubuntu support only
[07:28] <quazimodo> should my sources.list and the lists in sources.list.d be changed from precise to trusty?
[07:28] <quazimodo> or is it assumed that I'll do that myself?
[07:28] <Ben64> quazimodo: its not assumed you'll do it yourself, an upgrade should do that itself
[07:29] <Abhijit> Ben64, So, If I am not logged into irc on ubuntu , i should not ask about thah actual machine where i am attempting pxe ubuntu installation! really sorry for that.
[07:29] <quazimodo> Ben64: didn't happen. everything was still on precise
[07:29] <Ben64> quazimodo: sounds like your upgrade didn't complete properly then
[07:30] <quazimodo> :/
[07:30] <quazimodo> fantastic
[07:30] <quazimodo> cat /etc/issue has changed
[07:30] <Ben64> quazimodo: how about "uname -a"
[07:30] <Abhijit> Ben64, My words are not enough. May be an image penetrate your intellectual brain? http://ibin.co/1ehHbQWXtPDV
[07:30] <Ben64> quazimodo: actually, have you rebooted?
[07:32] <Abhijit> the actual image did the trick i guess.
[07:33] <quazimodo> Linux lappy 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:04:05 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:33] <xbashx> is there a chance to display the software updater status in the menu bar on the top of the screen instead of a window that pops up and disappears in the background?
[07:34] <quazimodo> Ben64: yeah several times
[07:34] <Ben64> quazimodo: well that doesn't sound good
[07:35] <quazimodo> excellent. I love a good failed upgrade
[07:35] <xbashx> what would be a question that is answered here?
[07:35] <Ben64> quazimodo: they're not very common, maybe hang around and see if someone else a good idea?
[07:36] <Flannel> quazimodo: does `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` give you anything?
[07:37] <quazimodo> Flannel: lets see. I need to clear out my non working repositories too
[07:37] <quazimodo> some of them are broken
[07:37] <Flannel> quazimodo: Which ones are broken?
[07:37] <alo21> hi all
[07:38] <alo21> how can I import my gpg key and ssh key to my system?
[07:38] <quazimodo> Flannel: stuff I added, like CRAN from csiro.au and redshift+ppa etc
[07:38] <Flannel> quazimodo: (3.2.0-29 isn't the latest kernel, so that's already an indicator of trouble)
[07:38] <nusr> why is #ubuntu the only channel where people are actually alive...i'm tempted to ask an EXCEL question
[07:39] <Flannel> quazimodo: can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`? (if you want to clear out your extra stuff first, that's fine)
[07:39] <quazimodo> Flannel: yep I'll be with you in one second :)
[07:41] <quazimodo> I've manually switched to trusty in my sources.list, let me switch that back to precise and do your dist-upgrade thing
[07:45] <ignerious> hello I am trying to play 1080p .mp4 file with totem but I am getting this error "GStreamer error: negotiation problem."
[07:45] <ignerious> how to fix this problem?????
[07:45] <ignerious> pleaseeeee
[07:47] <akhil> Hi everyone I am trying to add a simple upstart init script but it's not working
[07:47] <akhil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8637324/
[07:47] <akhil> Can someone please help me
[07:48] <quazimodo> Flannel: dist-upgrade working ...
[07:50] <akhil> anyone?
[07:50] <quazimodo> Flannel: should I change to trusty sources?
[07:50] <quazimodo> Flannel: dist-upgrade using the precise sources... does it make sense?
[07:51] <Flannel> quazimodo: dist-upgrade with precise.
[07:53] <quazimodo> doing so :)
[07:54] <stoogenmeyer> hi im trying to launch an aws ubuntu machine where I have docker be automatically installed through cloud-init (according to this http://beta-docs.docker.io/installation/amazon/), so im basically appending #include https://get.docker.com, although after the machine comes up docker is not installed and aufs is not enabled. has anyone done this and can advise?
[07:56] <Flannel> quazimodo: in case it takes a while and I'm not here: I'd try do-release-upgrade again once it's done (or whatever graphical flavor of that you prefer).  If that doesn't work, or no-ops, then install linux-generic, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal, (and whatever other relevant standard/significant metapackages you can think of), then switch your sources, then update/dist-upgrade again (to go to 14.04).
[08:03] <edition> is there a *safe* way of installing xfce, alongside the Unity desktop?
[08:03] <adac> guys, how  can I switch to the desktop in 14.04?
[08:04] <edition> adac, could you rephrase your question?
[08:04] <adac> edition, sorry got disconnected. Well what is the shortcut to clos all windows so I see the desktop
[08:05] <edition> Ctrl+(WinKey)+D
[08:05] <edition> *by default.
[08:05] <adac> edition, oh ok, thanks! in the 12.04 it was Ctrl+ALT+D
[08:24] <zava> Hi I am and have a complicated case for you. Is there anyone interested in helping me find a solution?
[08:25] <hateball> !ask
[08:26] <zava> ok alright
[08:27] <OERIAS> BitchX
[08:29] <jpentland> Anyone know what permissions I should be using for /opt/tftpboot with dnsmasq? I have right now 775, myuser:mygroup recursively, but I get "dnsmasq: TFTP directory /opt/tftpboot/ inaccessible: Permission denied"
[08:29] <Arbition> Hallo. So I just installed and upgraded a system (no further software installed). I am getting a kernel message that XFS is tainting my kernel
[08:30] <jpentland> Arbition, is it possible to put the whole output on pastebin? Normally kernel taint isn't an error though just a warning. For example it could mean you're using a proprietary kernel module.
[08:30] <Arbition> From a fresh install?
[08:31] <quazimodo> Flannel: cheerse mate
[08:31] <Arbition> hang on
[08:31] <Arbition> jpentland: dmesg?
[08:31] <jpentland> Arbition, yeah that should work
[08:31] <zava> I have a pavilion dv6 notebook with switchable graphics (AMD/Intel). Product number is A6P31EA#ABD. I have searched in total (not lying) 6 workdays trying to find an agreeable solution. I want to use the radeon open source driver but not with rpm but with oldschool vgaswitcheroo instead. I tried installing fglrx and had very bad performance while playing dota 2 with it and in general I don't like it. When I tried to install a recent beta fglrx, I get the no adap
[08:31] <zava> ter detected error. I tried different builds, the download and compile yourself method for example. I edited the x.conf to get my graphics card recognized but to no avail. ANYWAY, I would much rather use open source. Vgaswitcheroo does not work. When I search for it in config, y is the answer but no solution I found as of yet made it possible for me to use vgaswitcheroo. So does anyone know how to compile a kernel with vgaswitcheroo so I can use the easy oldscho
[08:31] <zava> ol method? My fan is making me crazy. Thanks in advance.
[08:32] <Arbition> jpentland: http://pastebin.com/xtMQaWzA
[08:34] <jpentland> Arbition, Request for unknown module key 'Magrathea: Glacier signing key: <removed>' err -11 - this looks like the real error
[08:34] <Arbition> right
[08:34] <vitimiti> Hi
[08:34] <Arbition> but as I said, all I did was update, upgrade and then upgrade the kernel
[08:34] <Arbition> though this is still running on the old kernel
[08:34] <Arbition> ubuntu 14.04.1 server i386
[08:35] <kanupatar> where can I see my pgp key?
[08:35] <kanupatar> I have executed gpg --gen-key
[08:36] <jpentland> Arbition, i see a thread here saying there was a big back in July but got fixed. Maybe you should upgrade to the new kernel? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235741
[08:36] <kanupatar> and didn't see the pgp key
[08:36] <Arbition> jpentland: I did, but haven't booted it yet. I'll reboot it
[08:36] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar: read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[08:36] <hans_> hi guys
[08:36] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: yes, i followed that
[08:36] <cablegunmaster> ah :p
[08:36] <cablegunmaster> did you get any output?
[08:36] <cablegunmaster> at all
[08:37] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: need to send the pgp key
[08:37] <cablegunmaster> try it again? :)
[08:37] <Masternoob> release hype! :D
[08:37] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: why?
[08:37] <Arbition> jpentland: ok done. Guess I'll be waiting a while for it to manifest. It took 2100 seconds to manifest last time...
[08:38] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar because it shows exactly where and how
[08:38] <cablegunmaster> :p
[08:38] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: no man
[08:39] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: i have the log
[08:39] <cablegunmaster> did it give you a error?
[08:39] <cablegunmaster> plz do post log.
[08:39] <cablegunmaster> on a pastebin =)
[08:39] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: nope
[08:39] <kanupatar> see your link
[08:39] <kanupatar> i got same
[08:40] <kanupatar> http://codepad.org/1LVjd7Cq
[08:40] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: ^
[08:41] <zava> !patience
[08:41] <zava> :D patience is a nice way of stating one's impatience
[08:42] <cablegunmaster> D8FC66D2  seems to be your key :p
[08:42] <cablegunmaster> dang o.0
[08:42] <cablegunmaster> excuse me :p
[08:42] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: no man
[08:43] <cablegunmaster> that just basic output xD
[08:43] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: pgp key is very big
[08:43] <kanupatar> like this https://dylansserver.com/pubkey.pgp.asc
[08:43] <cablegunmaster> according to your log you got allot of bugs inside it xD
[08:43] <cablegunmaster> try to recreate the key and see if it would create normally
[08:44] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: where is the error?
[08:44] <cablegunmaster> the output : http://codepad.org/1LVjd7Cq
[08:44] <cablegunmaster> full of errors xD
[08:45] <cablegunmaster> oh nvm blind strayed again xD
[08:45] <cablegunmaster> Dang , need to get awake.
[08:45] <kanupatar> I cannot see ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[08:45] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar get me a log of your terminal of what happened. what steps you took. because this log codepad.org doessnt tell me anything.
[08:46] <cablegunmaster> I am missing something of your picture aka can't look inside your head.
[08:46] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: I go the similar output as in the pastebin
[08:46] <cablegunmaster> ah
[08:46] <cablegunmaster> that is better :p
[08:46] <kanupatar> no errors
[08:46] <kanupatar> when I searched i se ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub has the key
[08:47] <kanupatar> but i dont have that folder
[08:47] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: ^^
[08:47] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar open it with sudo cd ~/.ssh/
[08:47] <cablegunmaster> ls -l on it.
[08:47] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar id_rsa.pub is the file :p containing the key
[08:48] <cablegunmaster> hope it helps ^^!
[08:48] <zava> I tried something I hope no one wrote an answer
[08:48] <zava> in a way
[08:50] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar works? :)
[08:50] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: no man..even in root login ,. no such folder...in home.
[08:50] <kanupatar> .ssh is not present
[08:50] <kanupatar> ls -a
[08:50] <kanupatar> cannot see
[08:50] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: ^^
[08:51] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar try cd .. cd .. until at root folder
[08:51] <cablegunmaster> try: cd .ssh on root folder
[08:52] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: no such folder
[08:52] <cablegunmaster> kanupatar mkdir .ssh
[08:52] <cablegunmaster> and retry the process of creating the key
[08:52] <kanupatar> in my home?
[08:52] <kanupatar> cablegunmaster: okay
[08:53] <cablegunmaster> in lowest of lowest structure
[08:53] <cablegunmaster> in ~
[08:53] <cablegunmaster> cd ~
[08:54] <Masternoob> so whats the current countdown for 14.10?
[09:00] <searching> front jackphone not working
[09:01] <searching> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=aa66ffaf893f8cbf54a63f2555d9168e18d3c068
[09:13] <PLoctaux> Hello everyone!
[09:13] <PLoctaux> Do you have a time for Utopic?
[09:13] <cablegunmaster> whats Utopic?
[09:13] <geirha> !utopic
[09:13] <cablegunmaster> its not Metopic is it?
[09:13] <cablegunmaster> oh...
[09:13] <DJones> PLoctaux: No, no set time, could be 5 minutes, could be 12 hours or more
[09:13] <PLoctaux> ubottu, Thanks!
[09:14] <geirha> If there's a countdown, it will be in #ubuntu+1, not here :)
[09:14] <PLoctaux> DJones, Thanks!
[09:14] <cablegunmaster> ubotto 0.0
[09:14] <DJones> !party | PLoctaux
[09:14] <PLoctaux> ubottu, Oh! Allright!
[09:14] <cablegunmaster> hehe
[09:14] <cablegunmaster> tricked by a bot xD
[09:14] <geirha> oh, or there
[09:14] <PLoctaux> cablegunmaster, I didn't know that!
[09:14] <vitimiti> Oh, there's a party channel
[09:16] <Keening_Product> That would have to be the best IRC bot out.
[09:16] <cablegunmaster> hehehe
[09:19] <rbnswartz> I'm trying to write a script to add entries to fstab. When I run it as my normal user the values it puts into the file are correct but when I run the script with sudo the value \040 gets replaced with a space. Any help?
[09:19] <Ben64> rbnswartz: how often do you need to add stuff to fstab that necessitates making a script to do it?
[09:20] <rbnswartz> Ben64 I' writing a setupup script to make my life easier
[09:20] <cablegunmaster> Upgrade life... go ubuntu!
[09:20] <cablegunmaster> :p
[09:20] <pikaren> why do some people still prefer other dist to ubuntu when it comes to setting up a web server
[09:20] <Ben64> rbnswartz: doesn't really answer the question
[09:21] <cablegunmaster> pikaren using centOs right now :p can't help it
[09:21] <pikaren> im just lazy
[09:21] <cablegunmaster> pikaren , you got your answer =)
[09:21] <cablegunmaster> because we are not ;)
[09:21] <rbnswartz> Ben64 I'm creating a script for so I can mount several samba shares when I first set up a computer
[09:22] <pikaren> but dis is ubuntu channel
[09:22] <rbnswartz> Ben64 I have an application that I need to support that only sees network shares if I mount them through fstab
[09:22] <Ben64> rbnswartz: ok, but they only need to be put into fstab once
[09:22] <rbnswartz> Ben64 exactly
[09:23] <Ben64> none of this makes sense
[09:24] <rbnswartz> Ben64 it does when you have to set up multiple machines quickly
[09:38] <jerem`> hi guys
[09:39] <jerem`> How could I see why my server has just rebooting ? (not crash)
[09:39] <sacarlson> jerem`: you could take a glance at /var/log
[09:48] <Charcoalcat> I'm trying to run a program called "SnowflakePro-windows-installer_b-1.1.1". When I run it in Wine through the terminal, it has a pop-up saying "Java Runtime Not Installed" and then it fails. If I right-click the file and choose to open it with OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime, it does nothing.  When I run it in Java through the terminal, it just says "Error: Could not find or load main class SnowflakePro-windows-installer_b-1.1.1". I have my terminal set to
[09:48] <Charcoalcat> use Java 7. I also tried "java -cp ." but it didn't change anything. What should I do?
[09:49] <Charcoalcat> Oh, and the file is supposed to be an installed for Snowflake Pro. Their website says it runs on Linux if you have the latest version of Java.
[09:49] <Charcoalcat> *install
[09:50] <zava> Ok I made a decision. I want to focus all my efforts on getting the power profile setting to work. But none of the options given on the Radeon Open source Arch linux page work. amd/intel switchable graphics.
[09:50] <zava> please help me get the power profile setting to work.
[09:50] <cablegunmaster> uuuh...
[09:50] <cablegunmaster> O.O that goes over my head.
[09:51] <nagerst> Charcoalcat: If you want to run a windows java application you need to install java in wine as well
[09:51] <nagerst> not just the native java client
[09:52] <Charcoalcat> nagerst: Okay, thanks, I'll try to do that.
[09:53] <nagerst> if the application is all in the .jar file, you could extract it from the exe and run it natively. But that is very likely to fail as most windows apps using java use other files as well..
[09:53] <cablegunmaster> nagerst yep thats gonna fail
[09:53] <qlr> guys, guys guys... why is.... my wifi disconnecting at home, yet not at the office?
[09:54] <cablegunmaster> qlr , tried resetting your router?
[09:54] <cablegunmaster> like power off, power on?
[09:54] <qlr> the wifi adapter is something like this: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 135 (rev c4)
[09:54] <Keening_Product> It could also be a faulty router power supply, faulty router or just poor reception.
[09:54] <qlr> the wifi router at the company is a really old and heavy netgear thingy
[09:54] <cablegunmaster> yep what Keening_Product is saying :p
[09:54] <cablegunmaster> netgear is good :p
[09:54] <qlr> and at home i have a mikrotic routerboard (the cheapest one)
[09:55] <qlr> i tried reseting
[09:55] <qlr> didn't fix the problem
[09:55] <Keening_Product> Netgear still gets faults like anyone else haha
[09:55] <cablegunmaster> qlr whats your reception? how many ?
[09:55] <qlr> ca i force it to be G? if so how?
[09:55] <cablegunmaster> Keening_Product I know :( .
[09:55] <cablegunmaster> qlr logon the router?
[09:55] <Keening_Product> qlr, how strong is the signal?
[09:55] <qlr> reception is really good like the router is within 2 meters unobsturcted in both cases
[09:55] <Keening_Product> Oh
[09:56] <cablegunmaster> open a browser, go to 192.168.1.1 ?
[09:56] <Keening_Product> Do you see the router doing anything unusual when your net drops out?
[09:56] <cablegunmaster> usually pass is admin : admin
[09:56] <Keening_Product> Like, the lights changing or appearing to reset?
[09:56] <nagerst> Charcoalcat: It seems they have a linux version of the application. Why not install that instead of the windows version?
[09:56] <qlr> neah, looks okay
[09:56] <qlr> infact my phone or my gfs wifi connection doesn't drop while mine does
[09:56] <cablegunmaster> qlr open browser connect to the router.
[09:57] <cablegunmaster> update your network driver perhaps?
[09:57] <cablegunmaster> update firmware router?
[09:57] <qlr> routers firmware is mad old, i give you that
[09:58] <Charcoalcat> nagerst: They do? I just see "I wrote Snowflake Pro in a language called Java, which runs on ANY modern laptop or desktop computer, Mac, Windows, or Linux." as the only mention of Linux on the site, which sounds like it's one version?
[09:58] <nagerst> There is also a mac version
[09:59] <nagerst> Mac can not run .exe files at all, and wine is almost out of the question on macs.
[09:59] <nagerst> it would have to be native java
[09:59] <Morpheusxnl> i have a tp-link wn823n which uses the rlt8192 chipset. I can connect to wifi but speeds are dropping pages not displaying could anyone advise me
[10:00] <auscompgeek> nagerst: just run the .jar
[10:00] <nagerst> auscompgeek: His file is a .exe. I said that he needs to download the .jar already
[10:00] <cyber_dweller> why does isc-dhcp writes messages to syslog even after i've redirected it in rsyslog with,  ":programname,isequal,"dhcpd" /var/log/dhcpd",  rsyslog creates /var/log/dhcpd and writes to it, message still apears in syslog, what is happening, is it a bug in rsyslog?
[10:00] <Charcoalcat> nagerst: Huh. I was just sent the Windows download by my dad and thought it was the only version - I'll try getting the Linux one, then.
[10:01] <auscompgeek> nagerst: oh, heh. I bet that the .exe is just the normal wrapper around a .jar anyway
[10:01] <nagerst> auscompgeek: Probably, but the safest bet would to download the correct version anyways so he would not have to extract the .exe
[10:02] <auscompgeek> nagerst: true.
[10:02] <nagerst> there might be differences
[10:03] <StephenS> I need an app which reduce screen brightness when power cable is unplugged and laptop works on baterry mode only, ubuntu 14.04.
[10:04] <qlr> well ill update the routers firmware and well see...
[10:05] <qlr> next issue:
[10:05] <qlr> http://i.imgur.com/WRnNEGy.png
[10:05] <qlr> how do i music? :D
[10:06] <qlr> nvm, fixed it
[10:07] <nispr0> why does iptables block multicast by default
[10:07] <nispr0> so wierd
[10:08] <auscompgeek> ummm it doesn't?
[10:10] <StephenS> I need an app which reduce screen brightness when power cable is unplugged and laptop works on baterry mode only, ubuntu 14.04.
[10:12] <rschaefer_> when exactly is the release of 14.10?
[10:12] <DJones> rschaefer_: No set time, just expected sometime in the next 12 or so hours
[10:15] <sacarlson> nispr0: I don't think iptables is setup to filter anything by default
[10:15] <Charcoalcat> nagerst: I got Snowflake Pro to work by installing Java in Wine! (I'll still try and get the Linux version, though.)
[10:16] <rschaefer_> DJones: Thanks for the info. I will wait then ;)
[10:16] <nispr0> I keep getting ufw block in my logs with: src gateway and dst: 224.0.0.1
[10:16] <killer> Hey , i just installed lollipop emulator in eclipse , it says 32 bit linux is going 2 b deprecated , use  Set ANDROID_EMULATOR_FORCE_32BIT to 'true' in your environment.
[10:16] <qlr> okay here is a stupid one
[10:16] <DJones> rschaefer_: You could join #ubuntu-release-party where people are waiting for & anticipating the release
[10:16] <killer> how do i do that
[10:17] <qlr> the bightness control thingie buttons aren't working
[10:17] <qlr> but the volume or the disable trackpad and everything else are...
[10:17] <rschaefer_> Djones: Hehe. Will do.
[10:18] <Keening_Product> killer: what's your issue?
[10:19] <killer> Keening_Product: i need 2 set ANDROID_EMULATOR_FORCE_32BIT to 'true'in profile
[10:19] <Keening_Product> killer: are you unable to do that?
[10:19] <killer> Keening_Product: I don't know how to do it
[10:20] <sacarlson> nispr0: I think you can disable it if for some reason you enabled it sudo ufw disable
[10:20] <nispr0> sacarlson: but that will disable iptables right?
[10:21] <sacarlson> nispr0: I think it will just turn off all filters
[10:21] <Keening_Product> killer: can't you just test on a device?
[10:22] <nispr0> sacarlson: need to google that, I thought ufw was iptables
[10:22] <Morpheusxnl> i have a tp-link wn823n which uses the rlt8192 chipset. I can connect to wifi but speeds are dropping pages not displaying could anyone advise me
[10:22] <killer> Keening_Product: for development purpose  ,it's best to test on an emulator , do you know how to set it in the profile
[10:23] <Keening_Product> killer: no, but I suspect this great website might help you if you look hard enough: www.google.com
[10:23] <killer> it it .profile or .bashrc
[10:24] <cablegunmaster> Keening_Product I loved the logo
[10:24] <Keening_Product> killer: can't you just search for the string in both files?
[10:24] <killer> it  suggests both these files
[10:24] <cablegunmaster> do they design logos ? Keening_Product? :p
[10:25] <sacarlson> nispr0: you can verify what state it's in with sudo ufw status   mine shows status as inactive
[10:25] <Keening_Product> killer: I'm assuming htis is your first app or first time using a computer or something - I'm a little concerned you haven't checked these files yourself before asking.
[10:26] <killer> Yes i m 5 year old , just hitting d keyboard
[10:27] <Keening_Product> Whoops.
[10:37] <ronaldsmazitis> where is ubuntu security
[10:37] <ronaldsmazitis> how can somebody delete lamp server contents
[10:38] <ronaldsmazitis> servered contents
[10:40] <cfhowlett> !server | ronaldsmazitis,
[10:40] <BluesKaj> HI all
[10:42] <ronaldsmazitis> cfhowlett BluesKaj so only server versions can't get hacked
[10:42] <ronaldsmazitis> hi
[10:42] <ronaldsmazitis> you should all be scared
[10:42] <cfhowlett> ronaldsmazitis, any version CAN be hacked ...
[10:43] <ronaldsmazitis> for christ sake do something
[10:43] <cfhowlett> ronaldsmazitis, for that matter, ANY OS and ANY computer can be hacked
[10:43] <BluesKaj> ronaldsmazitis, been on kubuntu for 8 yrs, no hacks yet
[10:44] <cfhowlett> ronaldsmazitis, biggest security risk has always been the user ...
[10:44] <cablegunmaster> ronaldsmazitis seems like a user error what happened to you
[10:44] <cablegunmaster> :) yep cfhowlett
[10:45] <sacarlson> if you want to hack something just install this https://github.com/sacarlson/Backdoor
[10:49] <hexabit> ls
[10:49] <hexabit>  oops soory! :)
[10:50] <alonz> hello
[10:50] <alonz> how to config "Scripts run with the privileges of the user" for apache2/php5 ?
[10:52] <as> asdasdsda
[10:53] <moatazY> helo there i have no proprietary driver
[10:53] <hexabit> Im doing an app for showing irc msg's in Pebble.
[10:53] <hateball> !drivers
[10:53] <hateball> :|
[10:53] <hateball> moatazY: what chipset?
[10:54] <moatazY> hateball: intel
[10:54] <hexabit> And It works!
[10:54] <hateball> moatazY: Well then it's in the kernel already
[10:55] <moatazY> hateball: is there anyopen source drivers !?
[10:55] <hateball> moatazY: There are drivers. If your computer shows you graphics they are working.
[10:56] <hateball> moatazY: You don't need to do anything when using Intel
[10:56] <moatazY> hateball: i cant change my resoultion highr than 1024*768
[10:57] <Morpheusxnl> guys would ndiswrapper be a good route
[10:57] <hateball> moatazY: what is the output of "lspci|grep VGA" ?
[10:57] <moatazY> hateball: and when using xrader wih many scale resouton i got screen cut
[10:58] <moatazY> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8639070/
[11:01] <moatazY> hateball: so ?
[11:01] <as> :)
[11:01] <hoverboard> yo
[11:01] <hateball> moatazY: I'm looking around the net, I've personally just used the HD series in recent time
[11:02] <hateball> moatazY: one option could be using the xorg-edgers PPA, see if that helps things
[11:02] <cablegunmaster> cowsay breaks my bashrc :(
[11:02] <cablegunmaster> howto fix? :p
[11:03] <alonz> how to config "Scripts run with the privileges of the user" for apache2/php5 ?
[11:05] <seif> hello
[11:06] <tytan> I have a DataTraveler HyperX 3.0 and I want to run Ubuntu from
[11:06] <tytan> it like it was a SSD. So not a live system. How Do I do that?
[11:06] <tytan> Should I install it on the pendrive like on a HDD or SSD and
[11:06] <tytan> just setup / and /home on it?
[11:06] <Guest9063> hey guys i want to ask about xubuntu??
[11:06] <tytan> sorry
[11:06] <tytan> I have a DataTraveler HyperX 3.0 and I want to run Ubuntu from it like it was a SSD. So not a live system. How Do I do that? Should I install it on the pendrive like on a HDD or SSD and just setup / and /home on it?
[11:07] <Guest9063> the right numbers on the keybeords don't work!
[11:08] <hateball> tytan: Yes
[11:08] <tytan> Guest9063: Have you pressed the NUM key?
[11:08] <Guest9063> YES
[11:08] <tytan> hateball: What about the boot loader?
[11:08] <tytan> Guest9063: Notebook or Desktop?
[11:08] <bajticzek> Hey guys, anyone can tell me why keyboard shortcuts (ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+T) only work under root?
[11:09] <Guest9063> Notebook ACER ASPIRE
[11:09] <tytan> Guest9063: Do you know which aspire exactly?
[11:09] <moatazY> hateball: how to use it x servers ?
[11:09] <Guest9063> 5733
[11:10] <tytan> Guest9063: Ubuntu 14.04.1?
[11:10] <hateball> moatazY: I don't quite understand your question
[11:10] <Guest9063> Xubuntu 14.04.1
[11:10] <jackbrown> Is there anybody that can help me with LibreOFFICE ?
[11:10] <tytan> Guest9063: Ok, wait a sec
[11:11] <Guest9063> okkkkk
[11:11] <jackbrown> I need to put a vertical text on an horizonalt a4 contract, I don't know how to do  thanks
[11:11] <alonz> how to config "Scripts run with the privileges of the user" for apache2/php5 ?
[11:12] <zava> update: I now switched the setting in bios from fixed mode to dynamic. I now can't see my graphics adapter with xrandr --listproviders anymore
[11:12] <bajticzek> Didn't anyone encounter same behavior as I do?
[11:12] <zava> how can I activate it again?
[11:12] <tytan> Guest9063: Try pressing Fn + F11, please
[11:12] <Guest9063> ok
[11:12] <kanhiay> hi all, I am using UBuntu 14.04 and i have wine 1.6.2 installed. (32 bit) and I installed a program called kundli chakra 2012 professional. Program installed successfully and starts. But when i click on a menu item and select new kundli, It is type of a FORM( Where we need to enter name, birth details , place etc). Wine throws ERROR 445 , object doesn;t support this action. when i click OK. Application closed.  What could be the possible reason for it?
[11:12] <moatazY> hateball: i mean u said there is using the xorg-edgers PPA, right , how to ise it ?
[11:12] <hateball> !ppa
[11:13] <kanhiay> is there any other chat room related with wine and which can answer promptly
[11:13] <hateball> moatazY: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa use at your own risk
[11:13] <Guest9063> nothings,,,
[11:13] <hateball> kanhiay: ##winehq
[11:13] <amine> l
[11:13] <amine> ls
[11:14] <moatazY> hateball: but i need itle help using the website is there any little guide or anything !?
[11:14] <tytan> Guest9063: k
[11:14] <bajticzek> Come on, I cannot be the only one...
[11:15] <Guest9063> i try ubuntu before it's the same prob :'
[11:15] <hateball> moatazY: basically this "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:15] <hateball> moatazY: Again, I don't know if it helps your problem. It just updates Xorg and related things
[11:16] <test__> ls
[11:17] <moatazY> hateball: okay i got it what is the next step to do !?
[11:17] <ronaldsmazitis_> ubuntu ftw security risk user
[11:17] <Guest9063> Tytan:Thnks for help :)
[11:18] <ronaldsmazitis_> I got to sleep and minutes after my webpage deleted
[11:18] <tytan> Guest9063: Ok, have a nice day ^^
[11:21] <hateball> moatazY: well that updates your stuff, if all works. you should see that in the terminal. then a reboot, and hopefully it magically works properly after that
[11:21] <MickeyDroid> Hello Guys
[11:21] <MickeyDroid> I have a problem and my problem is...
[11:22] <MickeyDroid> A few months back, i taught of installing ubuntu alongside my Windows 8
[11:22] <alonz> how to config "Scripts run with the privileges of the user" for apache2/php5 ?
[11:22] <MickeyDroid> I only gave ubuntu 17gb of space
[11:23] <mcphail> alonz: Can you rephrase your question? It doesn't make sense in English.
[11:23] <MickeyDroid> Now i have come to love ubuntu and i have only 1gb of space left on my ubuntu
[11:23] <sacarlson> MickeyDroid: that should be more than enuf space if you just provide a new partition that you could move your /home  to
[11:23] <MickeyDroid> how exactly do i do that @sacarlson
[11:24] <sacarlson> MickeyDroid: do you have another spare partition you can use ?
[11:24] <MickeyDroid> I could shrink up my windows partition
[11:24] <MickeyDroid> One quick question
[11:25] <MickeyDroid> would it work in an NTFS partition??
[11:25] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: you can use gparted to shrink your windows partition and expand Ubuntu. Make sure you have everything backed up first, though
[11:25] <MickeyDroid> Okay
[11:25] <psalden> if you still have your ubuntu install disc/stick, you can probably launch gparted from that
[11:25] <MickeyDroid> But would i be able to do the moving of my home partition into an NTFS space
[11:26] <MickeyDroid> In that the home and the windows file can co-exist??
[11:26] <sacarlson> MickeyDroid: no you would want to reformat the partition in ext4 or similar https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[11:26] <MickeyDroid> Okay @psalden
[11:26] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: you shouldn't need to move $HOME at all. Gparted will make enough space for your entire Ubuntu needs
[11:27] <MickeyDroid> Okay
[11:27] <sacarlson> mcphail: I'm not sure I would trust gparted to grow space, but I've just never tried it MickeyDroid
[11:27] <jesse_> where will the official notification of 14.10's release come from?
[11:27] <MickeyDroid> But i read somewhere that could messup my ubuntu bootloader
[11:28] <mcphail> sacarlson: growing ext4 is fine. Shrinking it is hairy
[11:29] <DJones> jesse_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-September/thread.html
[11:29] <kanhiay> fixme:olepicture:OLEPictureImpl_get_hPal unimplemented for type 3. Returning 0 palette.
[11:29] <sacarlson> mcphail: I would have to experiment with gparted growing a partition in virtualbox before I had any faith in it.  and if I had valuable files on it I'm still not sure
[11:29] <kanhiay> hi all, I am using UBuntu 14.04 and i have wine 1.6.2 installed. (32 bit) and I installed a program called kundli chakra 2012 professional. Program installed successfully and starts. But when i click on a menu item and select new kundli, It is type of a FORM( Where we need to enter name, birth details , place etc). Wine throws ERROR 445 , object doesn;t support this action. when i click OK. Application closed.  What could be the possible reason for it?
[11:30] <mcphail> sacarlson: hence my advice to back up everything first :)
[11:30] <kanhiay> is there any dedicated wine channel
[11:30] <hateball> kanhiay: I pointed you to ##winehq
[11:30] <sacarlson> mcphail: ah ok
[11:31] <kanhiay> hateball, i didn't see it. okay
[11:31] <mcphail> sacarlson: I've modified a few ext4 partitions (and ntfs partitions) with gparted and it is fine but these operations are always risky
[11:31] <sacarlson> mcphail: and and as I recall very slow
[11:32] <mcphail> sacarlson: yep. I use btrfs now from the command line. Much better.
[11:32] <sacarlson> mcphail: last time for me was with partition magic that would take all night or more
[11:32] <MickeyDroid> Guys, this is my disk information
[11:33] <MickeyDroid> System Reserved| Partition 1 = 367 Mb
[11:33] <MickeyDroid> Filesystem | Partition 2 70Gb NTFS
[11:34] <MickeyDroid> Extended Partition Partition 4 19 GB
[11:34] <Capprentice> Is it possible to install Gnome Shell 3.4 on Ubuntu 14?
[11:34] <MickeyDroid> Filesystem | Partition 6 14 GB EXT 4
[11:35] <MickeyDroid> Swap Partition 5 4.2 GB Swap
[11:35] <zesterer> Does anyone know how I can enable client-side decorations, Gtk 3.10-style? I'm using Xubuntu 14.04, but I'm using the pantheon desktop.
[11:35] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: my goodness. Get a bigger hard drive!
[11:35] <MickeyDroid> New Volume Partiton 3 231GB NTFS
[11:35] <MickeyDroid> Lol
[11:36] <MickeyDroid> My Latitude e6420 Came with 320 GB Harddrive
[11:37] <hateball> resizing using gparted isnt very tricky, it has fancy sliders and all. it just takes a long time if you have a lot of data to shuffle around
[11:37] <psalden> zesterer, remind me, does pantheon come with its own window manager? because in that case I can image that determines whether it's supported or not
[11:38] <psalden> imagine*
[11:38] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: you can certainly shrink your ntfs partition and expand the ext4 partition. Do it from a live disk/usb but back everything up first
[11:38] <jesse_> DJones: i'm not here for a beta.  i'm here for the final release. its a party!
[11:38] <zesterer> psalden, Yes, it has a WM called gala (based off mutter)
[11:38] <MickeyDroid> Okay @mcphail
[11:39] <zesterer> psalden, And yes, it does support client-side decorations. Some of it's apps use them.
[11:39] <DJones> jesse_: Yeah, but that mailing list will be where the release is announced
[11:39] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: i think the Ubuntu live disk has gparted installed by default
[11:39] <MickeyDroid> yea it does
[11:39] <zesterer> psalden, They just seem to be turned off. I've done a bit of looking in dconf-editor, but I can't find anything.
[11:39] <MickeyDroid> i saw it when i was installing ubuntu
[11:40] <psalden> zesterer, I see. I don't know then, sorry :(
[11:40] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: the worst that will happen is you'll need a complete reinstall of both operating systems...! ;)
[11:40] <zesterer> psalden, Ok, thanks for trying :-)
[11:40] <MickeyDroid> So lets say if i copy my whole ubuntu partition and place it on a backup drive,
[11:40] <MickeyDroid> then formart my windows partition and my ubuntu partition
[11:41] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: don't *format* anything unless you want to lose it
[11:41] <MickeyDroid> then reinstall windows with let say 50gb
[11:41] <MickeyDroid> and ubuntu 50gb
[11:41] <MickeyDroid> would i be able to copy the backup i made earlier??
[11:41] <kanhiay> hateball: nobody is answering on winehq
[11:42] <jesse_> DJones: Thanks!
[11:42] <jesse_> but i came here to party!
[11:42] <hateball> kanhiay: Then it is likely that no one knows the answer to your question
[11:42] <kanhiay> is there any way to contact developers of wine
[11:42] <sacarlson> MickeyDroid: I wouldn't do it that way.  as you also have to consider grub and mbr sectors and stuf
[11:42] <jesse_> Ubuntu release party! woooooo!
[11:42] <mcphail> MickeyDroid: Backup $HOME and anything important on your Windows install. Use gparted to change the sizes of your partition. Wait a few hours while it does its job. Hopefully you won't need to reinstall anything
[11:42] <hateball> ^
[11:43] <MickeyDroid> ookk
[11:43] <zlh>  /ns GHOST zlhgo 123456
[11:43] <mcphail> zlh: whoops
[11:43] <DJones> zlh: New password time
[11:44] <hateball> kanhiay: Yes. https://www.winehq.org/help/
[11:44] <sacarlson> MickeyDroid: MickeyDroid other option would be if one of those ntfs partitons isn't too full then just move it onto the c: drive partition of windows and use that partiton for linux /home
[11:44] <MickeyDroid> wont it damage my ubuntu partition
[11:44] <zlh> why my nickname is already in use?
[11:44] <kanhiay> hateball: i didn't find my answer there. There is no way to solve error 445 or documentation
[11:44] <mcphail> sacarlson: I suspect one of those windows partitions will be a recovery partition
[11:45] <sacarlson> MickeyDroid: you didn't provide info about how full the disks are so I'm not sure that would be feasable
[11:45] <hateball> kanhiay: I can clearly see a link to the bugzilla
[11:47] <alonz> I have a problem with internet shop installation, software needs to allow user to run scripts i think in php5 or apache2, I cant to find location that can configure anything like that
[11:47] <kanhiay> hateball: with things like these, people will lose interest from Linux. I was having a client , he got agree with a condition that his program must run under Linux also. As this program is major source of income for him. But i am unable to solve it in usual way.  Virtualbox is not a legal solution.
[11:47] <sacarlson> mcphail: MickeyDroid : direct copy of a disk takes much less time than partition manipulation in my view
[11:47] <kanhiay> hateball: there is no solution, i have already installed msxml3
[11:47] <ronaldsmazitis_> kanhiay somebody uses programm as income source?
[11:48] <ronaldsmazitis_> kanhiay: where I have been all this time
[11:48] <ronaldsmazitis_> kanhiay: haven't seen a cent
[11:48] <kanhiay> hateball: thanks a lot for your concern and time.
[11:48] <kanhiay> ronaldsmazitis_: He has purchased that program but wiindows is not genuine
[11:49] <alonz> "Scripts are being run with the user's permissions"
[11:49] <hateball> kanhiay: Maybe people should buy software for the OS they are running
[11:49] <ronaldsmazitis_> kanhiay, he does get gov funding or something like that
[11:49] <kanhiay> so that i told him to shift to Linux , as i was very much sure that it will work under wine
[11:49] <k1l> kanhiay: there is nothing we can do about it. either talk to the program maker or talk to wine.
[11:49] <ronaldsmazitis_> kanhiay: and programm is for reasearch right?
[11:50] <ronaldsmazitis_> othervise nothing gets paid no more
[11:50] <ronaldsmazitis_> atleast I live in cage
[11:50] <kanhiay> kanhiay: NO, he will use it for  commerical purpose
[11:50] <ronaldsmazitis_> kanhiay: and that would be
[11:50] <sacarlson> alonz: it sounds like you need a standard LAMP install that is a group of packages that include apache2 , mysql, php
[11:50] <ronaldsmazitis_> ?
[11:50] <kanhiay> ronaldsmazitis_: he will use it for commercial purpose.
[11:51] <ronaldsmazitis_> selling tshirts in retail store?
[11:51] <kanhiay> k1l: program makers supports windows OS. NOT WINE
[11:51] <sacarlson> !lamp alonz
[11:51] <kanhiay> k1l: linux supports wine not windows
[11:52] <kanhiay> ronaldsmazitis_: no, it is a HOROSCOPE and match making software
[11:52] <k1l> kanhiay: there is nothing we can do here. we cant talk to the program maker to make a ubuntu version. that isyour task. we cant tell wine to make there program compatible to run that program. that is your task.
[11:52] <kanhiay> ronaldsmazitis_: astrology software.
[11:52] <ronaldsmazitis_> kanhiaj: last night I made curse on anyone
[11:52] <ronaldsmazitis_> who predicts my future
[11:52] <geirha> has nothing to do with linux.
[11:52] <ronaldsmazitis_> and uses it
[11:53] <k1l> kanhiay: ronaldsmazitis_ so #winehq or the wineapdb is the best place for that
[11:53] <kanhiay> geirha: i am not blaming, but CANONICAL should do some marketing to attract developers to develop softwares for LInux also.
[11:54] <kanhiay> k1l: no one is answering on #winehq
[11:54] <kanhiay> let me test wineapdb also
[11:54] <k1l> kanhiay: again: this is not a technical ubuntu issue. see wine and/or app maker
[11:55] <kanhiay> k1l: ubuntu itself has many issue sometimes very irritating ones. sorry have a nice day/night to all
[11:55] <kanhiay> i lost a potential customer because of lack of support in WINE.
[11:56] <k1l> kanhiay: if you have customers you have monez to paz people to make it running on ubuntu. that is how the business works. dont blame others
[11:56] <k1l> *money *pay
[11:57] <kanhiay> i am not blaming, I am donating 10% of my income (whatever it is) to CANONICAL.
[11:57] <kanhiay> and it is a large contribution from my end.
[11:58] <geirha> eheh, my ESP tells me you accidentally switched between german and english keyboard layout :p
[11:59] <k1l> geirha: used to german layout typing on an english keyboard, that is :)
[11:59] <kanhiay> k1l: i could not hire big developers right now, i am not in that financial state. But will hire if got my business successful
[12:00] <alonz> but I installed php5, apache2 by apt-get solo
[12:00] <kanhiay> k1l: +10% for animal welfare. so effectively, i left with 81% of the income.
[12:00] <alonz> so everything is installed
[12:00] <alonz> but thanks, I will try lamp
[12:00] <k1l> kanhiay: what about you offer the program maker a donation to help in that issue. in most cases that motivates the developers
[12:03] <Capprentice> Is Ubuntu 14.04 has Gnome 3.12 in its repos?
[12:03] <Capprentice> Can I get Gnome 3.12 on Ubuntu 14.04 via regular updates?
[12:04] <nurdyay> I don't know the exact version but I just installed gnome 3.x from 14.04 repos yesterday. sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ubuntu-desktop
[12:05] <Capprentice> Then nurdyay can you please check the version in Synaptic and Tell me!
[12:05] <psalden> packages.ubuntu.com shows me utopic has gnome-shell 3.12.2-1ubuntu7
[12:07] <nurdyay> Capprentice, Synaptic shows gnome-shell version 3.10.4-0 installed
[12:07] <k1l> !info gnome-shell
[12:07] <Capprentice> Hmm! Thanks!
[12:08] <alonz> lamp dont resolved my problem -_-
[12:08] <psalden> oh woops, he said 14.04
[12:09] <nurdyay> alonz, what issue are you having?
[12:10] <sacarlson> alonz: to install lamp did you do anything like this http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-install-lamp-on-ubuntu
[12:10] <jesse_> if this is an Ubuntu 14.10 release party, where are the kegs and the strippers?
[12:10] <jesse_> let's party!
[12:10] <alonz> I have a problem with internet shop installation, software needs to allow user to run scripts i think in php5 or apache2, I cant to find location that can configure anything like that. "Scripts are being run with the user's permissions" <- that is required
[12:10] <DJones> !party | jesse_
[12:10] <jesse_> thanks!
[12:11] <mac_15> hi to everyone
[12:11] <jesse_> i'll go party there instead.
[12:11] <mac_15> when will be available ubuntu 14.10
[12:11] <sacarlson> alonz: the other thing that might help us is  tell us what store app you are trying to install and the link to were you got it
[12:12] <alonz> www.soteshop.com
[12:12] <k1l> mac_15: see in #ubuntu-release-party
[12:12] <mac_15> ok thanks
[12:12] <sacarlson> alonz: did you do a basic test of you lamp install before you install anything?
[12:13] <alonz> no
[12:13] <alonz> I have "Unable to locate package libapac"
[12:15] <sacarlson> alonz: it apears this sote show hosts it for you, how is it you plan to host this system?
[12:15] <sacarlson> show = shop
[12:16] <alonz> yes I want to install soteshop in my ubuntu server
[12:16] <nurdyay> alonz, did you follow their installation instructions? http://www.soteshop.com/trac/wiki/doc/en/soteshop_installer/web
[12:17] <nurdyay> Can you link to the script user permissions text or was it an error/message during installations?
[12:17] <ankk> hey
[12:17] <ankk> i close  chrome web browser but it continue to run at background
[12:17] <ankk> what's the problem?
[12:17] <jnhghy> is there a way to make the app bar in the left (in unity) auto hide?
[12:17] <hateball> ankk: it's that way by design, you can turn it off in chrome options
[12:18] <alonz> installation works well, but to complete it i have to enable "Scripts are being run with the user's permissions"
[12:18] <alonz> i think that is something in configuration apache or php but i cant find it
[12:19] <Roidan> jnhghy: yes.. it's in the system settings under appearance, and on the Behavior tab- Auto-hide the Launcher
[12:19] <sacarlson> alonz: I'm not sure it could be a file privlidge setting as normaly when I install something like that it will modify a config file and after complete I would change permisions to lock it
[12:20] <jnhghy> Roidan: thank you a lot for this info :)
[12:20] <sacarlson> alonz: but I don't see the link to the software you are using from the link you provided
[12:20] <alonz> http://www.soteshop.com/
[12:22] <alonz> there is my problem http://pics.tinypic.pl/i/00589/bb1nheuc9ui5.gif
[12:22] <sacarlson> alonz: yes I looked at that as it's just a store with some flowers.  I don't see a link to a zip file with the needed package
[12:23] <nurdyay> sacarlson, http://www.soteshop.com/downloads
[12:24] <snakt> Sup
[12:25] <sacarlson> nurdyay: thanks  alonz I downloaded the small version 2megs
[12:25] <alonz> yes I am using this version too
[12:25] <nyuszika7h> does Unity play nicely with Intel HD 4000 graphics?
[12:27] <Berto> Hi - My system is saying that my backups are corrupted (using S3 upload).  How can I force a fresh one?  I might need to reset the password or something
[12:27] <nurdyay> nyuszika7h, not quite the same but works fine with an i7 4770K using Intel HD 4600 graphics
[12:29] <sacarlson> alonz: is this the error you see Change folder permissions to 777 and press "Next" to start
[12:33] <sacarlson> alonz: I changed permisions of the folder it's contained in with chmod 777 store ;  now I get        Oops! An Error Occurred       The server returned a "500 Internal Server Error".
[12:33] <jpds> sacarlson: Hmm, that's never a good idea.
[12:34] <sacarlson> jpds: I think it's just for install I assume, I'm just going to delete it so I don't care about security
[12:35] <alonz> i made chmod before chmod 777 /var/www -R
[12:35] <alonz> so permissions are ok
[12:36] <blackyboy> very easy to achive the goal using 777 but 100% its security breach.
[12:37] <alonz> nvm I am just learning to configure it at VM
[12:37] <blackyboy> alonz: use 644 for files
[12:37] <sacarlson> alonz: I would talk to there customer service
[12:38] <alonz> I write at forum of soteshop too
[12:38] <alonz> but no reply atm
[12:38] <sacarlson> alonz: the step I get to now is it asking for a licence number.  do you get that far?
[12:39] <alonz> sacarlson 2014-1021-0001-9794-cbd0-e31b
[12:39] <DEA7TH> I want to update to 14.10, but I'm not sure if the non-beta version has come out yet, and I don't want to accidentally update to a beta version. How do I verify that I'm updating to the non-beta version, which should come out today (or already has)?
[12:40] <sacarlson> alonz: well I'm not going any farther.  If you get that far then your LAMP install is ok and the problem is on the software side at soteshop
[12:40] <BluesKaj> DEA7TH, the official release for 14.10 is today.if you can wait for a while
[12:41] <Xano> When #!/usr/bin/env php gives /usr/bin/env: php/usr/bin/env: php: No such file or directory, what might be wrong?
[12:42] <alonz> scarlson I think there is problem with apache or php configuration so here i trying to find out where and what I should to change in some configuration file
[12:42] <DEA7TH> BluesKaj: What happens when it gets released, do I get notified by the OS? I'm not sure whether it is released already.
[12:43] <BluesKaj> DEA7TH, subscribe to the mailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[12:43] <BluesKaj> DEA7TH, it's not released yet
[12:43] <DEA7TH> Ah, I'll just wait then
[12:44] <Xano> alonz: It’s an executable file with a shebang, there is no Apache involved
[12:45] <Pici> Xano: did you install php5-cli?
[12:45] <alonz> so what I should to do
[12:45] <Xano> We did find the solution to our problem: /usr/bin/env received an empty PATH (which it needs to find the php executable)
[12:45] <yeaaa> can someone explain the advantages of a package over the traditional install methods in windows?
[12:45] <JCT> my xubuntu interface is messed up. i was using it fine yesterday, when i ran unity while xfce was running... so when i couldn't terminate unity by what i tried, i logged out. logged back in as xfce. now the window indicator won't show. i tried running unity again, and now i can't even see the only panel, nor use any window hotkeys, not even alt-f4
[12:46] <geirha> yeaaa: You don't have to google/bing
[12:46] <JCT> so now all i can do is use X-chat gnome
[12:47] <JCT> i'm stuck in this state forever, all i can do is do CTRL-F4 which does terminal only mode... i can't figure what's happening
[12:47] <psalden> JCT, do you have xfce remember your previous session when you log in? ie does it open previous programs etc again?
[12:47] <yeaaa> geirha, ?
[12:48] <JCT> yeah, actually it's been doing that and i don't want it to.
[12:48] <givello> yeaaa: you can install any software from trusted sources right from your desktop, without having to google a download website
[12:48] <givello> yeaaa: you just enter the name of the program and press install
[12:48] <givello> yeaaa: and it downloads it for you and keeps it up to date
[12:49] <geirha> yeaaa: When you need some software installed, you don't have to go to google or bing to search for it, find its "homepage", download some installer command and run
[12:49] <alonz> Xano, so what shoul I do
[12:49] <geirha> yeaaa: you just search the packaging system for the software you want and click install
[12:49] <givello> yeaaa: you can also save room on your installation by having shared dependencies between softwares
[12:49] <Xano> alonz: I have no idea what you are talking about.
[12:49] <Xano> alonz: Please ask the channel, not specific people, unless you are in a one-on-one conversation.
[12:49] <alonz> "Xano> alonz: It’s an executable file with a shebang, there is no Apache involved"
[12:49] <JCT> psalden, how am i supposed to fix this? it gets annoying when the same programs boot up everytime i boot. and i can't exit em. as in, not maximize/restore/exit button.
[12:50] <KeithWeisshar> is ubuntu 14.10 coming today
[12:50] <yeaaa> i dont understand though, whats the difference between opening google and a terminal window?
[12:50] <Pici> KeithWeisshar: yes, sometime today.
[12:50] <yeaaa> the difference is so small it seems ^_^
[12:50] <givello> yeaaa: you don't have to put your trust in any website
[12:50] <givello> yeaaa: you don't have to do the updates by hand
[12:50] <JCT> no window control whatsoever
[12:50] <KeithWeisshar> what's new in ubuntu 14.10?
[12:50] <givello> yeaaa: you don't have to care about dependencies
[12:50] <psalden> JCT, it's probably in xfce's settings somewhere, but I wonder if we can fix your current issue by clearing out the session
[12:50] <Pantsu> yeaaa: less chance of https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/issues/123
[12:50] <Ganjar> Anyone know how to install TCHunt on Kali? I'm following this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/470508/how-do-i-find-all-the-truecrypt-encrypted-container-files-through-terminal but I'm getting a view errors, here is a screenshot: http://gyazo.com/927fbc6532ced65435f0a9a08fd6fefc
[12:50] <sacarlson>  alonz package does indeed require a lamp install , if you get as far as the box asking for the serial number then your lamp install is ok.
[12:50] <JCT> how? i can't even use the panel i opened?
[12:51] <Pantsu> yeaaa: not to mention dependency handeling, ease of updates etc
[12:51] <yeaaa> yeah but, the software i download is direct from the companies and in this day and age everything has an autoupdate builtin
[12:51] <Pantsu> yeaaa: which usually sucks horribly
[12:51] <JCT> i'm saying i have absolutely no window control whatsoever
[12:51] <alonz> sacarlson, so where might be problem?
[12:51] <Roidan> 14.10 fixed my multiple display through my docking station issue :)
[12:51] <yeaaa> ive never had issues with software autoupdate
[12:51] <psalden> JCT, try to logout, then remove ~/.cache/sessions/*, then log back in
[12:51] <givello> yeaaa: I'd rather not run a thousand auto-update scripts from various shitty companies every time I boot
[12:51] <sacarlson> alonz: the problem is in the store software.  to prove it install oscommerce
[12:52] <yeaaa> well thats for linux
[12:52] <OerHeks> !kali | Ganjar
[12:52] <yeaaa> for something like windows, i click update and it updates
[12:52] <psalden> JCT, you can do that from another terminal, using ctrl+alt+f2 for example, btw
[12:52] <Pantsu> yeaaa: except that often you don't
[12:52] <yeaaa> what?
[12:52] <alonz> sacarlson, wtf, thats open licence
[12:53] <givello> yeaaa: sure, it works well for core windows components, in a package manager you are supposed to have about every soft
[12:53] <Pantsu> a hell of a lot of apps on windows does not have a auto-update
[12:53] <sacarlson> alonz: yes so what's wrong with open
[12:53] <yeaaa> Pantsu, then they are outdated and old
[12:53] <alonz> sacarlson, ok so thank you very much for your time and try to help me :-)
[12:53] <Pantsu> yeaaa: no
[12:53] <yeaaa> even hexchat has an autoupdate lol
[12:53] <yeaaa> come on
[12:54] <Pantsu> yeaaa: not to mention that for many you have to pay for updates
[12:54] <Pantsu> yeaaa: fun fact: hexchat comes from the *nix world
[12:54] <yeaaa> dude this isnt a windows vs linux discussion
[12:54] <yeaaa> i was just wondering about package managers and why people use them
[12:54] <yeaaa> and i never pay for application updates, theyre free
[12:54] <Pantsu> yeaaa: dependency tracking, file tracking, security
[12:54] <givello> yeaaa: well, we gave you the reasons I believe: Dependency management, Auto-updating, security
[12:55] <givello> Also it installs everything in the right place
[12:55] <givello> (hopefully)
[12:55] <yeaaa> what security do you gain over downloading from the creator source?
[12:55] <yeaaa> who creates and manages the packages?
[12:55] <Pantsu> yeaaa: usually the distribution devs
[12:55] <givello> You don't have to make sure it's the creator's source, and the package are peer-reviewed
[12:55] <Pantsu> and they might do code audit
[12:55] <givello> packages*
[12:56] <Pantsu> and they usually sign the packages
[12:56] <Pantsu> so less chance of mitm
[12:56] <Pantsu> and ofcourse peer review as mentioned
[12:56] <yeaaa> ok, but how is that more secure than me going to the devs website and downloading directly?
[12:56] <thecommunist> hello
[12:56] <Pantsu> yeaaa: also see the link I gave yu
[12:56] <Pantsu> you*
[12:56] <yeaaa> im not trying to be a dick, im generally curious
[12:56] <givello> yeaaa: how are you sure it's the dev website and that it wasn't compromised?
[12:56] <Pici> yeaaa: because it also has been vetted by the Ubuntu developers and  passed through some user testing.
[12:56] <givello> yeaaa: how is it more convenient to have to make sure of the above instead of just trusting a repo
[12:57] <thecommunist> is new version ready to download ?
[12:57] <JCT> GAH
[12:57] <thecommunist> when it will be ?
[12:57] <Pantsu> yeaaa: bugs like the one in the link would not happen if using a distro package
[12:57] <JCT> lemme try logging out by a trying suggestion
[12:57] <OerHeks> thecommunist, soon
[12:57] <thecommunist> today ?
[12:57] <yeaaa> well i guess that is right givello, but a website being hacked is very rare, and to have them change the source download to be malicious is very rare
[12:57] <givello> yeaaa: maybe, but pishing might be less so
[12:58] <givello> yeaaa: and I doubt it's that rare anyhow
[12:58] <Pantsu> yeaaa: less rare than you would think
[12:58] <yeaaa> when was the last time you heard of a website being hacked and distributing malicious software?
[12:58] <Pantsu> yeaaa: unrealircd
[12:58] <givello> Something like last month?
[12:58] <yeaaa> from who?
[12:58] <Pantsu> yeaaa: and eg nsa does interception regulary
[12:58] <yeaaa> ive never seen it happen
[12:58] <Pantsu> so does the chinese
[12:59] <guest-JCT> ugh...
[12:59] <Pantsu> eg in china they highjacked the tor site urls
[12:59] <OerHeks> yeaaa, it happened often.
[12:59] <guest-JCT> i have my original user running
[12:59] <guest-JCT> the guest one works fine
[12:59] <yeaaa> lol nsa
[12:59] <guest-JCT> is there a terminal command to help fix xubuntu?
[12:59] <yeaaa> come on, you think a package manager is going to deter NSA? haha
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !defocus
[13:00] <virus> romania ?!
[13:00] <OerHeks> lets move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please, keep this channel free for support, thanks
[13:00] <yeaaa> "they bypassed us jim, they downloaded with a sudo apt get"
[13:00] <guest-JCT> i think terminals fix everything if the Desktop GUI is acting up
[13:00] <yeaaa> ok, sry
[13:00] <psalden> guest-JCT, did you try clearing the cache?
[13:00] <virus> scuse.....!
[13:01] <OerHeks> !ro
[13:01] <guest-JCT> is there a terminal command for that too? terminals are cool, much more simpler than regular linux
[13:01] <guest-JCT> just more limited
[13:02] <psalden> well, you'll need to log in as a user that can access your main user's files
[13:02] <guest-JCT> hold on
[13:02] <psalden> then it's just rm ~youruser/.cache/sessions/*
[13:03] <guest-JCT> hmm.......
[13:03] <guest-JCT> ugh
[13:03] <psalden> sup?
[13:03] <guest-JCT> is there a way to change users on a terminal
[13:03] <psalden> only if you have root access
[13:03] <psalden> which your guest user won't have
[13:03] <guest-JCT> goddarnit
[13:04] <psalden> press ctrl+alt+f2 to go to a terminal, then ctrl+alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+f7 (I don't remember) to get back to the desktop
[13:04] <psalden> and you can just log in with your main user
[13:04] <guest-JCT> oh
[13:04] <OerHeks> guest-JCT, please wtch your language, thanks.
[13:04] <guest-JCT> i'm sorry.
[13:04] <guest-JCT> jsut frustrated
[13:04] <Pwnna> does anyone know how i can get past this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1273261
[13:04] <guest-JCT> over and out
[13:05] <cfhowlett> 9
[13:05] <mouss> hello
[13:06] <loganrun> I am getting an error about problem installing mythtv-database when ubuntu logs into my account, but the program is already installed
[13:06] <loganrun> how do I fix this
[13:06] <OerHeks> loganrun, what error exactly? use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[13:07] <loganrun> OerHeks, just says crash report, sorry, a problem occured while installing software. package mythtv-database
[13:07] <psalden> any luck JCT?
[13:07] <loganrun> but it is already installed
[13:07] <loganrun> should I try to remove it and reinstall it or something
[13:07] <loganrun> or apt-get update
[13:09] <aarondabomb> I have a dumb question I can't figure out for some reason. I have ubuntu dual-booted alongside windows 8.1. I want to remove ubuntu, but I can't find the partitions to delete them! My only partition (when checked from windows, linux, and a cd-booted linux instance) is my primary windows partition, and then a recovery partition. What have I done?
[13:11] <mgolisch> aarondabomb: how did you install ubuntu?
[13:11] <aarondabomb> that's the problem, I don't know. I did it years ago when I had no idea what I was doing
[13:11] <mgolisch> maybe you used wubi
[13:12] <mgolisch> see anything related to ubuntu in your windows uninstall screen ?
[13:12] <psalden> guess you would need to have been very lucky to unconsciously have that working through win8 :p
[13:12] <cfhowlett> aarondabomb, years?  8.1 has only been available for ... months.  I'db bet wubi.
[13:12] <Pwnna> anyone  around?
[13:12] <Pwnna> for cryptsetup help?
[13:12] <aarondabomb> cfhowlett it was definitely a long time ago. I started on win 8, and upgraded to win 8.1 from there
[13:13] <aarondabomb> mgolisch: I don't think I did, but that's the only explanation I could think of too. I'll have to boot into linux after class and check
[13:15] <mgolisch> aarondabomb: like i said check appwiz.cpl in windows or look at the mount output in ubuntu, if its / is mounted from a file on your windows disk its definetly wubi
[13:16] <aarondabomb> mgolisch: cool, I'll do that. Thanks everyone!
[13:17] <rickardo1> How to run ssh agent as a service on reboot?
[13:18] <JCT> gah
[13:18] <JCT> tried terminal mode then it went to light display mdoe and i coundn't log in
[13:18] <JCT> it said password
[13:19] <JCT> i put JCT's password
[13:19] <JCT> no dice
[13:19] <JCT> tried terminal mode worked fine
[13:19] <JCT> login: jct password: ________________
[13:19] <JCT> and so i logged in
[13:19] <JCT> but terminal mode has no display plugins
[13:20] <JCT> so i couldn't open anything
[13:20] <geirha> rickardo1: It makes no sense to run it as a service
[13:20] <psalden> JCT, I'm not sure what you're trying to do at the moment, but once you clear that directory I mentioned, you should basically be able to start clean and log in graphically the usual way
[13:20] <rickardo1> geirha: :ssh-add "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent."
[13:21] <psalden> doesn't ssh-agent run per-user?
[13:21] <JCT> how do i clear cache on xubuntu again so that the same session stops rebootign with all this?
[13:21] <psalden> clear the ~/.cache/sessions directory
[13:21] <nbiew> Just install ubuntu 14.04 , how to set a custom resolution for nvidia 331.38 ?
[13:21] <JCT> what's the exact  command?
[13:21] <nbiew> Just install ubuntu 14.04 , how to set a custom resolution for nvidia 331.38 ? nvidia x server setting doesn't have an option for 1600x900
[13:22] <potterapple> hi! im new to installing oses and i want to install ubuntu 14.04 but im having some issues can you guys help out?
[13:22] <geirha> rickardo1: Yes, but that doesn't mean you should run it as a service. Question is, why isn't your session a child of ssh_agent?
[13:22] <JCT> are you running livecd mode?
[13:22] <JCT> i used that while i installed
[13:22] <psalden> JCT, assuming you're logged in as your main user, "rm ~/.cache/sessions/*"
[13:23] <JCT> oh
[13:23] <JCT> is there a hotkey in desktop mode to use xfce terminal? ctrl-alt-t doesn't work
[13:23] <rickardo1> geirha: I forget to tell that I'm not running desktop.. it's server I'm talking about.
[13:24] <potterapple> so the problem is that i want to sideload it with windows 8.1 and when i reach the part where i have to select 'something else' i do that and the partitions are not the way shown in windows
[13:24] <JCT> hmm...
[13:24] <potterapple> ill send a pic of how they are in windows and how in ubuntu
[13:24] <JCT> i'll try that command, if i can remember it
[13:24] <minimec> nbiew: try something like this... (see #24 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164385) to add your mode manually
[13:24] <JCT> over and out
[13:25] <potterapple> it says that my whole 500gb partition is free space
[13:26] <JenniferB2> I am trying to call a script that calls a second script, however the call to the second script is resulting in: "command not found".. what could be the problem here?
[13:26] <potterapple> but its not
[13:26] <nbiew> minimec : very complicated and it's a usb ,my monitor is on dvi but xrandr shows it connected to DVI-I-2 what does it mean ?
[13:26] <JCT>  so this time i can actually run both 2.
[13:26] <JCT> nice.
[13:26] <yusuf> JenniferB2: what script?
[13:26] <potterapple> http://imgur.com/pwNRAij
[13:26] <potterapple> please see this
[13:26] <JCT> it's giving me an error
[13:27] <potterapple> http://imgur.com/KtmNQ6q
[13:27] <potterapple> this is how it is in windows
[13:27] <minimec> nbiew: Might sound complicated, but this is the way to go. The procedure doesn't change for a HDMI or DVI or VGA screen.
[13:27] <JenniferB2> yusuf, it is a script in the same folder ( called MoHG.sh )
[13:27] <psalden> JCT, what error? :)
[13:27] <JenniferB2> I am calling it as: ./MoHG.sh argument
[13:28] <JCT> cannot remove home/jct/.cache/sessions/*: Is a directory. used command: sudo rm ~/.cache/sessions/* as sudo
[13:28] <yusuf> and then? MoHG run another script?
[13:29] <waykool99> in Lubuntu. How do you 'Empty Trash'? No, right click doesn't list it on the menu.
[13:29] <JCT> i'm running desktop mode and terminal in conjunction
[13:29] <hateball> JCT: the -r option removes files and folders recursively
[13:29] <nbiew> minimec : it really new for me to get those understanding method command
[13:29] <JCT> ok
[13:30] <potterapple> anyo?ne
[13:30] <potterapple> *anyone?
[13:30] <Roidan> waykool99: click on the trash icon in the launcher,. Once it opens, there will be a button to empty it
[13:30] <JCT> it says -r isn't a command
[13:30] <pbx> potterapple, express your question in words. post those words here. wait for a response.
[13:31] <JCT> using root actual user
[13:31] <nbiew> minimec : when I set at x server nvidia to 1600x900 at the advance setting , the only part which I miss out is the refresh rate fix at 50hz. I can set it well on windows 7.It commonly means it's possible to have a refresh rate support on monitor and GC
[13:31] <JCT> nvm
[13:31] <JCT> hold on
[13:31] <waykool99> OK thanks. i'll have to Add a Launcher to Trash.
[13:31] <OerHeks> potterapple, seems like you have 4 primairy partitions (max)
[13:31] <JenniferB2> yusuf, then MoHG calls a java program
[13:31] <OerHeks> remove 1, make that space extended, and install ubuntu there
[13:32] <JCT> GAH
[13:32] <JCT> lemme try one more time
[13:32] <pbx> running 14.04, what's a sensible way to add a keybinding for a menu command in a particular application? (thunderbird in this case)
[13:32] <shelimov> I have amd r9 290 gpu and is experiencing very low FPS in comparison with Windows. I have installed fglrx driver but FPS is almost a half of that I had on Windows. Does anyone have the same problem?
[13:32] <nbiew> I hope anyone who have experience to help me out with some command to set it a refresh rate to 60 for dvi
[13:32] <minimec> nbiew: Do 'xrandr' in your terminal to see what Hz is used right now. In your case I would probably "gtf 1600 900 60", wich returns --> Modeline "1600x900_60.00"  119.00  1600 1696 1864 2128  900 901 904 932  -HSync +Vsync
[13:32] <yusuf> JenniferB2: run java program? .jar ? .java? or .class?
[13:32] <Morpheusxnl> any body with wifi experience on ubuntu
[13:32] <JenniferB2> yusuf, .class
[13:32] <pbx> Morpheusxnl, jump right in with details and your specific question
[13:32] <potterapple> oerHeks: i have one logical partition
[13:33] <JCT> now it.. hold on
[13:33] <potterapple> wont that do?
[13:33] <nbiew> minimec : Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 16384 x 16384
[13:33] <minimec> nbiew: Also check your device identifier with xrandr --> DVI-0 or similar...
[13:34] <JCT> now it's telling me cannot remove ~/cache/sessions/*: no such file or directory. does that mean cache is cleared?
[13:34] <nbiew> minimec : how to check the device identifier ?
[13:34] <mgolisch> potterapple: looks like ubuntu doesnt see any of the partitions, what is your windows version?
[13:34] <JCT> and i added the dot
[13:34] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, i have a tp link wn823n which has rtl 8192 chipset and connection is unstable / unusabale
[13:34] <JCT> before cache
[13:34] <potterapple> windows 8.1
[13:34] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, i need a way to fix it
[13:34] <psalden> JCT, sounds like it, "ls ~/.cache" if you wanna be sure
[13:34] <OerHeks> potterapple, you have 4 primairy partitions.
[13:34] <psalden> make sure 'sessions' isn't in it
[13:34] <valentind> Hello. I have a bug to report for GCC on Ubuntu. Launchpad is very confusing. Can someone tell me what is the easiest way to report a bug without losing my afternoon?
[13:34] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, would ndiswrapper with the windows driver help me
[13:34] <JCT> K.
[13:35] <JCT> ok
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !bug | valentind
[13:35] <minimec> nbiew: This would be 'xrandr' on my machine... I have HDMI1 and HDMI2 connected @ 60.0* Hz
[13:35] <JCT> whoopes.
[13:35] <JCT> hold on
[13:35] <minimec> nbiew: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8640664/
[13:36] <nbiew> minimec : I did manually set the refresh rate but it doesn't change
[13:36] <yusuf> JenniferB2: how to you execute it in terminal?
[13:36] <mtuts> Hi everyone!
[13:36] <yusuf> java [javafile.class] ?
[13:36] <potterapple> OerHeks, so i delete one whole partition then what?
[13:36] <pbx> Morpheusxnl, i don't know about that hardware, but do google the specific model info and if it doesn't lead to to a solution, post details here of what you tried, and what happened when you did.
[13:37] <potterapple> mgolisch win 8.1
[13:37] <minimec> nbiew: Once you have added the new mode --> "xrandr --addmode ...", you have to open the Display GUI and switch to that new mode.
[13:37] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, can you help me?
[13:37] <nbiew> minimec http://paste.ubuntu.com/8640711/
[13:38] <mgolisch> potterapple: i suspect something is wrong with your disk, it probably has both gpt and mbr partition tables or something
[13:38] <JCT> nvm nothing happened
[13:38] <JCT> i was usign root
[13:38] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, i will be at my computer tonight. I already tried solutions like disabling n speeds, tried to install driver of manufacturer did not work gives me all kind of errors
[13:38] <mgolisch> potterapple: was something else installed before?
[13:38] <pbx> Morpheusxnl, i can't help beyond what i have already suggested
[13:38] <cfhowlett> terminal:  gdisk        command will ID any gpt remnants on your system
[13:38] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, i have some pages send to my email to try tonight i will come online then it is easer
[13:38] <Morpheusxnl> easier
[13:38] <pbx> Morpheusxnl, rather than saying "all kinds of errors" post the actual error messages via dpaste.com or similar
[13:38] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, easier to do then
[13:38] <nbiew> minimec previously there's no dvi-I-3 ,  just add it up. The only problem I am facing is refresh rate set to 50hz
[13:39] <potterapple> mgolisch no only windows 8.1 i got the laptop from a university so im not 100% sure
[13:39] <Morpheusxnl> pbx, i will report back when behind machine
[13:39] <JCT> can the terminal not delete ~/.cache/sessions because it is a directory?
[13:39] <potterapple> mgloisch it shows mbr in windows partitoning tool
[13:40] <potterapple> *mgolisch
[13:40] <k1l> JCT: rm -rf /path/to/folder
[13:40] <JCT> OH.
[13:40] <JCT> i'll try dat instead
[13:40] <k1l> JCT: and no root needed for that
[13:40] <JCT> ok
[13:40] <Joe_Spencer> hello! :) i got a very hectic problem! can somebody help me?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> Joe_Spencer, details
[13:41] <psalden> JCT, by using /.cache/sessions/*, the * expands such that it deletes files in the directory, rather than the directory itself
[13:42] <JCT> now i need to create "sessions" right?
[13:42] <psalden> but sure, -rf on the directory will do the job too, just make sure you only use it on that directory and not delete your entire homedrive or something
[13:42] <psalden> probably not necessary, I think xfce will do that again
[13:42] <JCT> ok
[13:42] <JCT> should i reboot?
[13:42] <k1l> relogin
[13:42] <JCT> can't do that with a messed up desktop
[13:43] <JCT> terminal, yes
[13:43] <k1l> JCT: sudo lightdm restart
[13:43] <JCT> hold on
[13:43] <JCT> ok
[13:43] <minimec> nbiew: Well I see you added the mode for a 'disconnected' Screen. I don't kow if you wanted that. I you just wanted to set a new mode for DVI-I-2, you would have to add it for that screen. Where do you see 50hz? You can set the hz with the first command... "gtf 1600 900 60" <-- 60hz
[13:43] <potterapple> mgolisch can i pm you somewhere? thanks! :D
[13:44] <JCT> ok
[13:44] <JCT> logout
[13:44] <JCT> logout
[13:44] <JCT> logiut
[13:44] <mario_> hi anyone using  pangolin ubuntu. im having  some repositores failed and then   my graphic card fails  with failure to schedule IB1. not sure if its a  faild update of ubuntu or is my graphic card malfunction.. im currently using  another distro with same graphic card
[13:44] <JCT> logout
[13:44] <Joe_Spencer> i have an NVidia GTS 250 card, every ubuntu works well, after 14.04 i cant use my computer. So i decided to reinstall the pc and get rid windows7 then try to install 14.04. The live disk booted up, and i was able to install the system, in graphic mode. After system rebooted, i only see the boot screen of my bios, then my monitor turns into sleep mode, and nothing else. What can i do?
[13:45] <JCT> jct
[13:45] <JCT> jct651656
[13:45] <psalden> strong pw at least
[13:45] <psalden> :P
[13:46] <nbiew> minimec : I also doesn't know how I added the mode for a "disconnected" screen DVI-I-3. I can see the 50hz once I set at nvidia x server advance setting to 160x900+0+0 and at the CCSM general composite
[13:46] <dreamcat4> hi. bit of a problem here with the ISO (live USB stick): grub-install error: failed to get canonical path of 'cow'
[13:46] <shelimov> Hello, guys. :) I have AMD R9 290 GPU and experiencing very low FPS in comparison with Windows. I have installed fglrx driver but FPS is almost a half of that I had on Windows. Does anyone have the same problem?
[13:47] <dreamcat4> i can mount and chroot into my / or /boot partiton but then /dev doesn't work anymore ?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> shelimov, AMD is not especially linux-friendly.  nvidia is preferred
[13:48] <nbiew> minimec : what commend to set it gtf "1600 900 60" ?
[13:48] <JCT> alright you guys it worked!!!
[13:48] <minimec> nbiew: Ok. So try "gtf 1600 900 50" once... Some info about 50hz and nvidia ... http://fs-uae.net/50hz-display-modes-on-linux-with-nvidia-drivers
[13:48] <psalden> good to hear JCT
[13:48] <mario_> anysorry is precise repositoies working fine?
[13:48] <psalden> do consider changing your password though, you were just typing it in here
[13:48] <JCT> oh crap that's what i feared
[13:49] <JCT> oops language
[13:49] <JCT> sorry
[13:49] <dreamcat4> 'cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied' (after chrooting into /)
[13:49] <minimec> nbiew: The last number is  'hz', so "gtf 1600 900 59.9" would calculate the Modeline for 59.9hz ...
[13:50] <dreamcat4> although strangely /dev/ seems to 'look like it's there'
[13:50] <psalden> dreamcat4, I think you need to mount those separately, see if you can find a guide on /chroot'ing into an ubuntu installation
[13:50] <psalden> I should be going now
[13:50] <dreamcat4> psalden: great but how can i do that ?
[13:50] <mcphail> dreamcat4: you need to bind mount /dev and /sys from outside the chroot
[13:51] <dreamcat4> mcphail: that really works ? huh
[13:51] <adac> does someone know where the ufw rules are saved?
[13:51] <adac> is it /lib/ufw/user.rules
[13:51] <k1l> !chroot
[13:51] <dreamcat4> i'll give it a try then
[13:51] <mcphail> dreamcat4: i missed the start of the conversation but, yes, you need to bind mount
[13:52] <mgolisch> dreamcat4: anything in /dev in the chroot?
[13:52] <mgolisch> dreamcat4: usualy you just bind mount your /dev into the chroot
[13:52] <dreamcat4> mgolisch: yes. anout half of the entries of the /dev folder
[13:52] <dreamcat4> ok then.
[13:53] <nbiew> minimec : so how does the add mode end up at at DVI-I-3 ?
[13:54] <giovanni_> ciao
[13:54] <minimec> nbiew: Did you just add it to DVI-I? Try to add it once directly to DVI-I-2. You can do that right now. It doesn't matter that we have another one added @ DVI-I-3...
[13:55] <dreamcat4> great. it's getting further. but maybe i need to bind /proc too it seems now
, so what to do? I can't just change my videocard. I have already bought r9 290? :D
[13:56] <R3dSky> will a 750 ti work on ubuntu? just asking before buying.
[13:56] <mcphail> R3dSky: yes
[13:56] <dreamcat4> ok. it worked. thanks guys mgolisch mcphail kil
[13:56] <PLoctaux> http://releases.ubuntu.com/utopic/ Ubuntu is here!
[13:56] <mcphail> R3dSky: you'll need the nvidia drivers for it to work well
[13:57] <R3dSky> do i need propreitary drivers or anything on that order
[13:57] <R3dSky> will it work on wayland?
[13:57] <mcphail> R3dSky: yes. The free drivers are poor
[13:57] <mcphail> R3dSky: I think wayland supoort is coming but not there yet
[13:58] <R3dSky> oh. will nouveau work then?
[13:58] <k1l> PLoctaux: stop that, wait for the official statement.
[13:58] <mcphail> R3dSky: maybe. I can't get nouveau to work with X, never mind wayland
[13:59] <R3dSky> oh. so do i install the drivers and then plug in the 750 or vice versa? (curious)
[13:59] <jnxd> PLoctaux: They might still be running tests, as the legends go, and they might change the package in the middle of your download.
[13:59] <guest-qLLiI6> j ai un probleme sur mon ordi
[13:59] <PLoctaux> jnxd, Thanks!
[13:59] <mcphail> R3dSky: I always plug in first. Sometimes I have to install driver from terminal if X doesn't come up
[14:00] <PLoctaux> k1l, Ok, I didn't say anything! :-)
[14:00] <R3dSky> i use airtel 3g, so will it be safe to download and put the driver in Home before plugging in?
[14:00] <minimec> guest-qLLiI6: Il existe un channel en francais pur ta question.
[14:00] <mcphail> R3dSky: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current should do the job but you might want to look at the xorg-edgers ppa for up-to-date drivers
[14:01] <R3dSky> thanks.
[14:01] <R3dSky> will a r9 290 work on ubuntu with opensource drivers?
[14:01] <mcphail> R3dSky: I'd use a package-managed driver (native ubuntu or ppa) rather than downloading from nvidia directly
[14:01] <k1l> !fr | minimec
[14:01] <shelimov> R3dSky, I have the same question. I have installed fglrx but performance is too bad
[14:01] <jnxd> R3dSky, for trusty, nvidia-current didn't support my driver. Use nvidia-331 instead
[14:02] <jnxd> ...if things go wrong
[14:02] <mcphail> R3dSky: maybe with the new release. I think there were a lot of improvements for R9 in kernel 3.17
[14:02] <minimec> k1l: I wanted to paste him that too, but he/she is already gone...
[14:02] <stianhj> Anyone have GeForce 7600GT? I'm having trouble getting HDMI audio to work. It doesn't show up in aplay -l
[14:02] <suela22> what's the package for this? / how to launch it from terminal? http://s12.postimg.org/8wfznx5p9/ubuntu_impostazioni_audio.jpg
[14:02] <R3dSky> ok. is it safe enough to try? (researching to buy gpu)
[14:03] <shelimov> mcphail, I'm using r9 290 on latest debian build and have some problems with fps. It's about a half of Windows fps
[14:04] <mcphail> R3dSky: might be worth checking Phoronix to see the current state of play. I didn't get much joy with open drivers with an integrated APU. Nvidia is still ahead of amd at this point
[14:04] <glcheetham> shelimov, what kind of games/benchmarks are you running?
[14:04] <mcphail> shelimov: is that with open drivers?
[14:04] <R3dSky> will an a10-7850k work? (igp)
[14:04] <nbiew> minimec : it doesn't work adding on DVI-I-2
[14:04] <shelimov> glcheetham, I tried dota 2, the witcher 2 and cs: go
[14:05] <mcphail> R3dSky: my a4-5400K doesn't work well without proprietary drivers if I use HDMI. Fine with VGA
[14:05] <R3dSky> oh. thanks mcphail.
[14:06] <mcphail> R3dSky: I installed latest kernel and mesa. Not great yet
[14:06] <glcheetham> It's hard to know if fps issues are caused by drivers or the ports of the games themselves
[14:06] <R3dSky> is there a chance of a gtx 970 working?
[14:06] <mcphail> R3dSky: yes. Works well, apparently
[14:06] <suela22> i dont get why sometimes it is not clear the NAME of the program you are using?!?! only want to know what it's called. name of package. http://s12.postimg.org/8wfznx5p9/ubuntu_impostazioni_audio.jpg
[14:06] <minimec> nbiew: Ok. I do not know why... sorry. Anyway I have to take a break here. I got a dog here, asking for his right. So I have to walk my dog. I will be back in maybe 90min or so...
[14:06] <mcphail> R3dSky: you'd need the up-to-date drivers from xorg-edgers, though
[14:07] <R3dSky> ok. so what are the chances of that ppa breaking, anyway?
[14:07] <mcphail> R3dSky: I've used it for a couple of years with no breakage but ymmv
[14:07] <R3dSky> thanks.
[14:08] <nbiew> minimec : http://pastebin.com/9xUQJHzH ok
[14:08] <ogra_> popey, no #ubuntu-release-party in the topic this time ?
[14:08] <nbiew> minimec : Ok , thanks i'll try other way round again
[14:08] <Rudde> Hello
[14:08] <mcphail> R3dSky: if you use the up-to-date drivers you need to set the powermizer in nvidia-settings to "prefer maximum performance" otherwise you get glitching in Unity
[14:09] <Rudde> Is there any webUI for making KVM vm's in ubuntu like proxmox in debian?
[14:09] <suela22> so nobody can name this package? http://s12.postimg.org/8wfznx5p9/ubuntu_impostazioni_audio.jpg
[14:09] <R3dSky> thanks yet again. will a retina imac work with ubuntu?
[14:09] <Eddi1> ;)
[14:09] <glcheetham> suela22, why do you want to know that name?
[14:09] <Eddi1> hello
[14:09] <[S^K]> what is a good logging solution to use for logging the requests made to a REST web service?
[14:09] <Eddi1> where to find e serverr for hacked CC ? can u tell me
[14:09] <mcphail> R3dSky: Think there are a lot of scaling issues. One of the chaps from Linux Voice has been trying. Might be worth emailing him
[14:10] <R3dSky> what are 'scaling issues'?
[14:10] <suela22> glcheetham: i knew i would get this question in return.... :)   - it's not working on another ubuntu machine, so i want to try launching it from terminal
[14:10] <mcphail> R3dSky: fonts and icons being wrong size etc
[14:11] <R3dSky> oh.
[14:12] <suela22> i click on it and the windows does not open, that's all
[14:12] <R3dSky> then a dell 5k monitor?
[14:13] <mcphail> R3dSky: no idea, i'm afraid. I know AMD advertise 4k on linux
[14:13] <vertago1> Anyone know a good way to get a notification when 14.10 is open for dist-upgrade?
[14:14] <daftykins> vertago1: moving to a non-LTS? questionable move
[14:14] <vertago1> if I cared about LTS I would be on debian
[14:15] <Symmetria> heh mannn at the rate the traffic here is flowing here Im still gonna be sitting in traffic when ubuntu 15 is released
[14:15] <JoeyFN> is 14.10 coming out today?
[14:15] <vertago1> JoeyFN: it is supposed to
[14:15] <OerHeks> JoeyFN, maybe
[14:16] <R3dSky> JoeyFN: Supposed To
[14:16] <OerHeks> maybe not
[14:16] <OerHeks> join #ubuntu-release-party for the waiting
[14:16] <vertago1> ok
[14:16] <R3dSky> does the r9 285 work?
[14:17] <frenda> I've used a '7 Pin S-Video to 3RGB' cable to connect an analog TV to my computer to show my desktop to my student in the classroom. The cable is between the graphic card and TV ports, but there's not any output on TV screen, any idea?
[14:17] <panos986> hi
[14:18] <mcphail> frenda: does the screen show up in "Displays"?
[14:18] <suela22> OerHeks: can you please name the package for this: http://s12.postimg.org/8wfznx5p9/ubuntu_impostazioni_audio.jpg
[14:19] <R3dSky> suela22: that's the audio pane/whatever for settings.
[14:19] <OerHeks> suela22, don't know, sorry, what the audio settings package is called
[14:20] <suela22> yes but what is the exact NAME
[14:20] <suela22> how do you run it from terminal?
[14:20] <frenda> I didn't check, I'll check it tomarrow; Isn't it Plug&Play?, @mcphail
[14:20] <OerHeks> suela22, why run it from terminal? it is in systemsettings
[14:20] <suela22> how can this be so complicated to find! :)
[14:20] <OerHeks> suela terminal audio settings is 'alsamixer'
[14:20] <frenda> If it exist there, what should I do?
[14:21] <mcphail> frenda: you may need to select the screen in Displays
[14:21] <suela22> OerHeks: because on other computer it does not work from gui (maybe it will work from terminal)
[14:21] <alexa> Hi!
[14:21] <suela22> OerHeks: it works on the computer i am on now. but i dont see the f** name anywhere!
[14:22] <jpdumont_> #xcsoar
[14:22] <jpdumont_> join /xcsoar
[14:22] <alexa> I have some serious security issue. I've been using Ubuntu for 3 years and I have never noticed something like this:
[14:22] <somsip> jpdumont_: /join #xcsoar
[14:22] <mgolisch> s-video? no its a pain in the butt
[14:22] <jpdumont_> thanks ;-)
[14:23] <alexa> My girlfriend brought yesterday her PC and she said she cannot open a page to watch movie online
[14:23] <R3dSky> alexa: which website is it?
[14:23] <alexa> she also said some Java window opened asking for permission
[14:23] <alexa> she just clicked yes
[14:24] <alexa> R3dSky, it's filmovizija.com
[14:24] <alexa> I realized now my PC behaves the same when I open the page
[14:25] <OerHeks> alexa,  seems like a illegal video site, we cannot help.
[14:25] <potterapple> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html?m=1
[14:25] <potterapple> I'm following this
[14:25] <alexa> but the thing is, that I have installed Ubuntu on my friend's PC, so comparing to his PC, looked like her showed more ads
[14:25] <alexa> OerHeks, it's not about the site
[14:25] <potterapple> How would I know if I have to perform boot repair and stuff?
[14:25] <alexa> I'm talking about java
[14:26] <alexa> then I was wondering why was his PC (freshly installed ubuntu) not showing those stupid ads and why did his PC display it right?
[14:26] <alexa> I decided to remove all permission given to java
[14:27] <potterapple> Is it possible that I might not have to do boot repair?
[14:27] <alexa> but the problem is that I cannot find the java controlpanel
[14:27] <alexa> I followed some articles
[14:27] <alexa> but nothing worked
[14:27] <OerHeks> alexa so both ubuntu pc's?
[14:27] <alexa> yes
[14:27] <alexa> and both are 14.04
[14:28] <potterapple> Oerheks the problem was that I had a GPT and MBR partition data :/
[14:28] <alexa> even typed "locate *ontrol"
[14:28] <alexa> instead of control
[14:28] <alexa> cause of case sensitive first letter
[14:28] <potterapple> I fixed that using fixparts
[14:28] <alexa> nothing found
[14:28] <potterapple> But I want the know one more thing
[14:28] <alexa> purging java and reinstalling didn't help
[14:29] <potterapple> http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html?m=1 I'm following this guide do I need to do the boot repair stuff or not?
[14:29] <aht> hi
[14:29] <aht> ubuntu first
[14:29] <aht> verry hhhhhhhhhhhhard
[14:30] <aht> how use hangul
[14:30] <alexa> potterapple: I didn't open the link you provided, but if you install Win first, Ubuntu second, there's no need for boot repair
[14:30] <alexa> he left :(
[14:32] <alexa> any clues where to find java control panel?
[14:32] <alexa> and how to remove all permissions given to java?
[14:33] <bynarie> wuddup
[14:33] <mcphail> alexa: wasn't the permission from the web browser to run the applet?
[14:34] <alexa> mcphail: yes
[14:34] <alexa> but I believe she checked the option "allow always"
[14:34] <alexa> or something similar
[14:37] <mcphail> alexa: then you need to look at the web browser rather than your java install. But if you've given permission to malware you'd be better doing a reinstall anyway
[14:38] <devhost> Is there a way to find out why the binding (ctrl + space) is not working on a application? It's for content assistance in an app called Robot IDE. The content assistance works if selected via menus.
[14:38] <devhost> I'm using ubuntu with awesome wm.
[14:38] <devhost> 14.04
[14:39] <devhost> Awesome isn't the problem either as I've bound functions in the lua config to that binding and nothing will happen in awesome either.
[14:40] <alexa> mcphail: I checked mine firefox and I could not find anything about java and permissions
[14:44] <JCT> my ubuntu thinks the sound output HDMI  digital stereo is still connected/plugged in. how am i supposed to tell the computer that the laptop isn't channeling through Digital HDMI anymore?
[14:45] <funkyjive> hey guys.  I am having trouble creating a desktop launcher in unity.  I am following these instructions, I have manually created the .desktop file into /usr/share/applications and I have also tried to use the gnome-panel and I have also tried to use alacarte.    Have been trying to follow these instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles .   But none of these methods seem to work for me.
[14:45] <funkyjive> I can't get it to show up in the dash.
[14:45] <funkyjive> or on the desktop or whatever
[14:45] <vitimiti> Hi
[14:46] <stianhj> devhost: is it a Java app?
[14:46] <devhost> I believe it's wxPython.
[14:46] <glcheetham> funkyjive, what program is it
[14:46] <funkyjive> Is there an easy way to create a link?
[14:46] <JCT> my computer thinks hdmi is still connected, so the sound settings don't understand
[14:46] <funkyjive> glcheetham:  scalaide ..  it is basically eclipse.  I have it installed in /opt/ScalaIDE/eclipse (thats the executable)
[14:46] <JCT> it's channeling apps through HDMI
[14:47] <devhost> stianhj: On a desktop I have the binding and content assistance works, but on this virtualbox VM it's not working.
[14:47] <glcheetham> funkyjive, and do you want the desktop entry to appear in the launcher, dash,etc?
[14:47] <JCT> how do i set analog input speakers/headphone as default sound driver
[14:47] <devhost> I don't believe it's the app or the wm. I think the problem is higher up.
[14:47] <funkyjive> glcheetham: ultimately the launcher is where I want it
[14:47] <funkyjive> glcheetham: desktop and dash are gravy.
[14:48] <JCT> is the command terminal?
[14:48] <stianhj> devhost: I had a similar problem at one time. Have you looked at this https://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/FAQ#Why_some_floating_clients_can_not_be_tiled.3F ?
[14:48] <alexa> ok, guys, it's my job to ask once more: Where do I find java control panel?
[14:48] <JCT> idk
[14:48] <alexa> where is it located?
[14:48] <devhost> stianhj: I'll look real quick.
[14:48] <yeaaa> hi
[14:48] <devhost> The app isn't floating and tiles though, but I'm sure there is some accessory information.
[14:49] <funkyjive> alexa: is there one of those for ubuntu?
[14:49] <funkyjive> alexa: I've only ever seen that on windows.
[14:49] <alexa> funkyjive, there are some pages saying it's somewhere in /usr/lib...
[14:49] <JCT> is there a way to tell ubuntu that the analog sound outout is the default?
[14:49] <alexa> in java directory
[14:50] <alexa> but there sn't
[14:50] <alexa> *ins't
[14:50] <alexa> *isn't
[14:50] <funkyjive> alexa: let me check in the jvm install area.
[14:50] <alexa> thank you
[14:50] <JCT> isn
[14:50] <JCT> isn't there like a terminal command for setting analog sound output as default one?
[14:51] <JCT> it thinks HDMI is default.
[14:51] <devhost> stianhj: I don't think that's the problem or solution.
[14:51] <devhost> I don't think it's Awesome.
[14:51] <JCT> nevermind, i can fix this myself......
[14:51] <devhost> As I said I remapped a binding to ctrl + space, and that binding wouldn't work anymore ...
[14:52] <funkyjive> alexa: it is called jcontrol
[14:53] <funkyjive> alexa: ahh.  it looks like it is only there on official Oracle JVMs
[14:53] <funkyjive> alexa: I think it is not present on openjdk  jvms
[14:53] <alexa> it asks me to install "julius" first
[14:54] <funkyjive> try executing it directly
[14:54] <funkyjive> alexa: /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/bin$ ls -l jcontrol
[14:54] <funkyjive> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6264 Oct 18 09:41 jcontrol
[14:54] <funkyjive> alexa: I have that so I do (in a terminal) cd /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle
[14:54] <funkyjive> alexa: ./jcontrol
[14:55] <stianhj> devhost: did you try? i had the same problem with firefox. the problem *isn't* with awesome, but the app not doing things correctly, leading to it not working correctly in awesome
[14:55] <alexa> thanks, funkyjive!
[15:01] <stianhj> Anyone have GeForce 7600GT? I'm having trouble getting HDMI audio to work. It doesn't show up in aplay -l
[15:02] <tlawless> recommendations for a LAPP stack?
[15:04] <bynarie> ubuntu 14.10 now supported in here correct?
[15:04] <OerHeks> it is not out yet
[15:04] <compdoc> is it released today?
[15:04] <bynarie> yes
[15:04] <DJones> bynarie: Not yet, its not officially released
[15:05] <tyagi> h
[15:05] <bynarie> its available as a release, no longer in beta
[15:05] <Pici> There has not yet been a release announcement.
[15:05] <bynarie> so what
[15:05] <Pici> So buttons.
[15:06] <bynarie> anywho, it doesnt matter... just asking
[15:10] <tikun> anyone have any experience running ubuntu under hyper-v?
[15:11] <daftykins> tends to be better to ask the *next* question since you might not get a reply
[15:11] <daftykins> nobody wants to say "yeah, me!" then wait for the actual question
[15:12] <glcheetham> daftykins, haha
[15:14] <deemo> Hello there... running Ubuntu 12.04 (DreamStudio). I have just put in a 3terrabyte hard drive but it wont permit me to write in it or use it as a normal drive with full permission. I have formatted it to ext4 what else do I do. I hear that anything above 3tb is usually having the trouble.
[15:14] <deemo> Hello there... running Ubuntu 12.04 (DreamStudio). I have just put in a 3terrabyte hard drive but it wont permit me to write in it or use it as a normal drive with full permission. I have formatted it to ext4 what else do I do. I hear that anything above 2tb is usually having the trouble.
[15:16] <bittin-> on the Ubuntu 14.10 releaseparty in Stockholm waiting for more people :)
[15:17] <deemo> Hello there... running Ubuntu 12.04 (DreamStudio). I have just put in a 3terrabyte hard drive but it wont permit me to write in it or use it as a normal drive with full permission. I have formatted it to ext4 what else do I do. I hear that anything above  2tb is usually having the trouble.
[15:17] <somsip> !patience | deemo
[15:17] <deemo> thanks somsip
[15:19] <Rimes> Has anyone been able to reach the Ubuntu Mate site today?
[15:19] <devhost> stianhj:
[15:19] <devhost> I'll give it a shot right now
[15:19] <somsip> Rimes: url?
[15:19] <Rimes> i believe it's ubuntu-mate.org
[15:20] <Rimes> http://ubuntu-mate.org
[15:20] <ronaldsmazitis> http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/207.46.13.15
[15:20] <ronaldsmazitis> this is last ip that attempted to reach my web server last night
[15:20] <ronaldsmazitis> when it was deleted
[15:20] <somsip> Rimes: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://ubuntu-mate.org/
[15:20] <ronaldsmazitis> Microsoft Bingbot
[15:20] <ronaldsmazitis> who would have known
[15:21] <glcheetham> What was the logic behind canonical developing mir instead of helping out with wayland and getting it out quicker?
[15:22] <Rimes> ok, it was just me.  darn work firewall
[15:22] <somsip> glcheetham: ubuntu touch I believe, but this discussion is better in #ubuntu-offtopic as its a non-support issue
[15:22] <glcheetham> somsip, ah, sorry
[15:22] <devhost> stianhj: didn't fix it, also content assistance doesn't seem to work at all
[15:22] <snpresent> ubuntu used systemd?
[15:22] <devhost> it did before but with or without the maximized thing
[15:22] <devhost> it doesn't matter
[15:23] <deemo> The folder "The Foundry Modo 8.0.1 SP2 Linux x64" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to create it in the destination. its a 3tb drive
[15:24] <somsip> deemo: check the mount point. Probably not +w for your user
[15:24] <deemo> I dont actually understand how to do what you just said somsip
[15:24] <deemo> or what it is
[15:25] <somsip> deemo: when you add a new drive, if you don'
[15:25] <MrJerome> 14.10 upgrade is not appearing for me, is it not out yet?
[15:26] <somsip> don't follow the correct process, you cannot write to it as a normal user
[15:26] <somsip> deemo: so type mount in a terminal and look for the 3TB drive. It should have a name like /dev/sdf1 Tell me what it is
[15:26] <john_rambo> Leaving the main server I am getting 403 Forbidden on all the mirrors I have tried so far ..... Maintenance ?
[15:27] <somsip> john_rambo: penidng release? What version are you on?
[15:27] <luckybunny> can anyone help me get a canon printer working on ubuntu? I'm trying to get it working across a network, and it's attached to a vista box
[15:27] <john_rambo> 14.10 somsip
[15:27] <deemo> somsip,  what is your instruction
[15:27] <somsip> john_rambo: the release is just about to be made, so maybe the repos are down pending that operation, or whatever they have to do
[15:28] <luckybunny> the printer is Canon MF4010, I have managed to detect it via CUPS and I have the printer driver installed (UFR II)
[15:28] <john_rambo> somsip, Okay
[15:28] <digitsm> Hello
[15:28] <somsip> deemo: just told you. If you can't follow that, I'm not going to have enough tiome to help you as I'm busy
[15:28] <luckybunny> driver version is 2.9, only a couple of months old
[15:28] <deemo> ok somsip
[15:28] <digitsm> I can't get updates from http://ir.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[15:28] <digitsm> Is that mirror down?
[15:28] <digitsm> I live in Iran
[15:28] <deemo> somsip, /dev/sdf1 on /media/859eb552-59b6-469d-80fd-22e36b67d18e type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
[15:29] <luckybunny> the eventual aim is to have the ubuntu box as a print server, but since the printer doesn't even respond to the ubuntu box across USB, that's a no-go atm
[15:30] <luckybunny> until then, the Vista box will remain the print server
[15:30] <somsip> deemo: well done. So now type 'ls -la /media' and paste the permissions that are next to folder 859eb552... Should be like 'drxr-wr-w 24 root root'
[15:31] <squinty> digitsm: fwiw i can log onto http://ir.archive.ubuntu.com/   there is no "ubuntu" directory though
[15:31] <MrJerome> Has anyone been able to upgrade to 14.10 yet? It's not showing up in my updates
[15:31] <digitsm> luckybunny, If you had an hp then hplip is very good opensource driver
[15:31] <deemo> somsip, drwxr-xr-x  3 root  root  4096 Sep  2 01:06 859eb552-59b6-469d-80fd-22e36b67d18e
[15:31] <digitsm> luckybunny, no idea about canon
[15:31] <digitsm> squinty, So what does that mean?
[15:32] <maxvi> when ubuntu phone will be released ?
[15:32] <maxvi> I mean BQ and Meizu MX3
[15:32] <luckybunny> digitsm: I agree re hp. This same box has successfully printed from 3 different hp printers, no problem at all. Both over network and via USB. However, the organisation wants the Canon
[15:33] <vitimiti> BQ says they will release it on December, maxvi
[15:33] <daftykins> !touch | maxvi
[15:33] <vitimiti> Or november?
[15:33] <squinty> digitsm:  are you sure you have the correct url as there seems to be nothing available at that site at all?
[15:33]  * luckybunny would much rather scrap the canon completely and get a decent printer
[15:33] <alle> anyone able to help me? trying to use the nouveau driver but lshw -c video shows only: configuration: latency=0 and NOT driver=nouveau .. should I add something in the Kernel Parameters or How could I get on?
[15:33] <luckybunny> but... it's not my choice
[15:34] <digitsm> squinty, I have not select IR repo myself. When I first installed ubuntu it automatically chose IR mirror
[15:34] <somsip> deemo: so first root denotes the owner, and second root denotes the group. owner can read write enter (first rwx after the d) group can only read and enter (middle r-x) and everyone else can only read enter (last r-x)
[15:34] <somsip> !permissions | deemo (read this later)
[15:34] <somsip> deemo: how did you attach the drive to the PC?
[15:35] <squinty> digitsm:  maybe hold off for now. might be related to maintenance and the upcoming release of 14.10.
[15:36] <deemo> somsip, its a new drive, 3tb, i put it inside hoping to use it as a storage since the other 2 drives 160gb and 320gb are kinda misbehaving... and one of them holds the OS.
[15:36] <zero_coder> hello, i installed ubuntu alongside window, now i cant boot into windows  . its not showing in grub
[15:36] <digitsm> squinty, Oooh! If 14.10 comes up then should I change my repo url?
[15:37] <somsip> deemo: did you add anything to fstab? If you don't understand that question, the answer will be 'no'
[15:37] <deemo> so somsip I formatted to ext4 it using gparted or some tutorials I found
[15:37] <deemo> I cant really say yes or no... I dont know somsip
[15:37] <digitsm> squinty, I don't want to migrate to 14.10 now. I am comfortable enough with LTS version
[15:38] <deemo> initially, the drive could not be seen at all and I did a search for a few days then found a way to sort that out somsip
[15:38] <somsip> deemo: no then. Have a look at !fstab and see if anything makes sense. I have to do something else for a while so see how you get on and if anyone else can help too.
[15:38] <rangeles2276> How can I completely reset my GTK3 Ubuntu defaults?
[15:38] <somsip> !fstab | deemo
[15:39] <rangeles2276> Also; How can I upgrade to the latest version of GTK3?
[15:39] <squinty> digitsm:  you could try changing servers too.  look in "Software and Updates > unbuntu software and change the server there
[15:39] <deemo> ok somsip ... thank for your time
[15:39] <digitsm> squinty, Oh yes! I see. Thanks
[15:39] <lkthomas> guys, if I want to chmod +s file, what's the numbering should I use ?
[15:40] <squinty> digitsm:  yw
[15:40] <frog> hi... I didnt find anyone who is "supporting" startup disk creator... since yesterday im getting this error: http://snag.gy/ufRIs.jpg
[15:40] <frog> a month ago or so it worked without problems. Whats going wrong?
[15:40] <n3on_waves> hi
[15:42] <frog> ohh... i should add that this error appears when i try to format my "new" usb 3.0 stick
[15:43] <snpresent> i'm back now
[15:43] <proycon> When 15.04 comes out, will there be a direct upgrade from 14.04 LTS ? Or does it have to go through 14.10?
[15:44] <Pici> proycon: You will have to go through 14.10 .  Only LTS to LTS upgrades allow you to skip releases.
[15:44] <snpresent> LTS  jump to LTS
[15:44] <daftykins> proycon: LTS to LTS upgrades can go direct once the first point release comes out, so if 15.04 is LTS, 15.04.1 would be direct
[15:44] <geirha> next LTS is 16.04
[15:44] <proycon> Pici: hmm yeah, that's what I thought indeed
[15:44] <proycon> I'm considering not upgrading to 14.10, but I may want 15.04  or 15.10 before 16.04
[15:45] <daftykins> proycon: depends what this machine does
[15:45] <daftykins> but with good backups, any attempt is safe.
[15:45] <proycon> just my laptop and desktop workstation
[15:46] <proycon> oh yeah, I know it's safe.. I've upgraded plenty
[15:48] <deemo> somsip, the drive is empty so I dont mind to start all over reinstalling it and getting it done right with permission
[15:48] <peto_> hi
[15:49] <somsip> deemo: it seems like the system is automatically mounting it wrongly. You need an entry in fstab. I don't have time to walk you through that right now so read !fstab and get more help if you need it
[15:50] <searching> front jackphone not working
[15:50] <adac> How to add a system user? So one that has a home directory but does not have a password for login?
[15:50] <frog> hi... I didnt find anyone who is "supporting" startup disk creator... since yesterday im getting this error: http://snag.gy/ufRIs.jpg
[15:50] <frog> a month ago or so it worked without problems. Whats going wrong?
[15:50] <frog> i should add, that this error appears, when i try to erase my "new" usb 3.0 stick in startup disk creator
[15:51] <teaearlgray> Is is appropriate for me to ask a regex question here?
[15:51] <proycon> adac: adduser --system
[15:51] <Guest89145> when i ->ifdown eth0 ->output: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured, what is the problem?
[15:51] <KeithWeisshar> why hasn't ubuntu 14.10 been released yet
[15:51] <mcphail> teaearlgray: it is a bit off topic
[15:52] <adac> proycon, awesome! thanks!
[15:52] <Fishscene> KeithWeisshar: It can be released at any time today.
[15:52] <Fishscene> Historically, it has been released at the last possible moment.
[15:53] <Din_Weasel> it is released http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/
[15:53] <Din_Weasel> final version here
[15:54] <deemo> somsip, this page http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html is for sale
[15:55] <Aeolus0> hey guys
[15:55] <Aeolus0> i'm having a bit of an issue with X crashing all the time
[15:55] <Aeolus0> anyone free>?
[15:55] <teaearlgray> mcphail, is there a better place? I guess I could try #python as I'm doing it in python
[15:55] <teaearlgray> Well then, I'll be off
[15:56] <mcphail> teaearlgray: i don't knwo if there is #regex - wouldn't surprise me if there was!
[15:56] <somsip> teaearlgray: you can ask. If it's simple someone might help
[15:57] <teaearlgray> somsip, not really too simple
[15:57] <somsip> teaearlgray: Well, you either ask or not.
[15:58] <teaearlgray> somsip, asking in #python right now. Will go here or somewhere else if they can't help, though.
[16:00] <glovertex> My laptop HP Pavilion G6 gets very hot (above 70 C) at iddle
[16:00] <Aeolus0> hey guys, my X eeps crashing when i fire up any openGL application, i'm on nvidia latest blob drivers, and it keeps happeeing. I have to REISUB to get out of it, any ideas?
[16:00] <dami0> hi, my vim only has syntax for one buffer, is this an ubuntu thing or should i ask #vim?
[16:00] <daftykins> Aeolus0: if you installed from nvidia's site then, unsurprising
[16:00] <Aeolus0> daftykins, same issue if i do it from the repos
[16:01] <daftykins> Aeolus0: every version?
[16:01] <adac> proycon, is there also a paramter that would allow to become this user via root like with "sudo su user"
[16:01] <vitimiti> Bye
[16:01] <Aeolus0> daftykins, the last 2 are the only ones that support my gpu, so i've tested all that's availible for my GPU
[16:01] <aljosa> anybody knows if "Beats Studio wireless Bluetooth headphones" work w/ ubuntu?
[16:01] <mcphail> dami0: have you installed one of the full vim packages rather than vim-tiny?
[16:02] <daftykins> Aeolus0: desktop system? what card?
[16:02] <dami0> mcphail: iirc it was vim
[16:02] <proycon> adac: su user   doesn't work?
[16:02] <Aeolus0> daftykins, 780 ti
[16:02] <adac> proycon, no since adduser --system does set bin/false
[16:02] <daftykins> Aeolus0: i take it you've tried other programs/games/etc so that it's not just an issue with the one?
[16:02] <glovertex> aljo depends on the device ubuntu is on
[16:02] <glovertex> aljosa
[16:02] <Aeolus0> daftykins, yup.
[16:03] <proycon> adac: and with -s /bin/bash ?
[16:03] <mcphail> dami0: not on ubuntu just now, but there will be bigger vim packages in the repos. try vim-gtk or something to get the full vim install
[16:03] <daftykins> Aeolus0: clean 14.04 install, fully updated?
[16:03] <mcphail> dami0: I'm irc'ing from an old debian box so can't check the current vim packages
[16:03] <Aeolus0> daftykins, yeah, i reinstalled as well, same issue
[16:03] <aljosa> glovertex: you mean if ubuntu system has proper bluetooth support?
[16:04] <daftykins> Aeolus0: hrmm, no idea then
[16:04] <Slamd64> hello. I have problem with 14.10 and MySQL Workbench. When I do select query I get empty table. This is the output. Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_tree_view_set_model: assertion 'model == NULL || GTK_IS_TREE_MODEL (model)' failed
[16:04] <Aeolus0> daftykins, i'm OK at thiss stuff, and i'm stumped, you're my only hope!
[16:05] <daftykins> Aeolus0: no, the channel is, not me.
[16:05] <adac> proycon, yes that works! thank you so much!
[16:05] <teaearlgray> Okay got it worked out
[16:05] <proycon> np
[16:05] <dami0> mcphail: nope,
[16:05] <dami0> still broken
[16:05] <Aeolus0> daftykins, fair enough, thanks
[16:05] <Aeolus0> daftykins, anyone that you know here that ikes digging into X?
[16:05] <Aeolus0> daftykins, like an episode of dirty jobs or something?
[16:06] <dami0> i'm using the cli vim though, never had problems with no syntax on other buffers in arch which is why i thought it might be ubuntu specific
[16:06] <daftykins> Aeolus0: they'd have responded
[16:06] <daftykins> Aeolus0: you could read logs though
[16:06] <mcphail> dami0: all i can say is it works fine for me but I don't have access to check my setup just now. Maybe something wrong with your .vimrc?
[16:06] <adac> I have installed 14.04 and it seems that the colors are meesd up. blue just looks like violet in the browser images. any ideas?
[16:06] <Aeolus0> daftykins, no one has. thanks though, i'll just wait
[16:07] <daftykins> Aeolus0: my point exactly :)
[16:07] <Aeolus0> thanks once again daftykins
[16:09] <dami0> mcphail: could be, i copied it from my arch install
[16:09] <dami0> could be that something is another place which causes this error
[16:09] <Aeolus0> hey guys, my X eeps crashing when i fire up any openGL application, i'm on nvidia latest blob drivers, and it keeps happeeing. I have to REISUB to get out of it, any ideas?
[16:11] <mcphail> dami0: I'd try clearing out .vimrc and ~/.vim/ and see if it works better
[16:11] <EriC^^> Aeolus0: try /var/log/syslog
[16:12] <bynarie> if i have tar.gz file, can i just use tar -xf or do you have to use the z argument?
[16:12] <mcphail> bynarie: you don't have to use the z any more
[16:12] <bynarie> k thanks
[16:13] <EriC^^> Aeolus0: start with grep -N 10 "Fatal" /var/log/syslog
[16:13] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, nothing
[16:13] <EriC^^> less /var/log/syslog
[16:14] <EriC^^> type /error and press "n" to go to the next match
[16:14] <dami0> mcphail: nope, don't think that's the problem
[16:15] <somsip> dami0: can you explain the problem again?
[16:15] <Laurenceb> hi, how easy is it to backport a newer kernel?
[16:15] <mcphail> dami0: very odd. Sorry I can't be of more help as I wouldn't know where to start hunting for the problem
[16:16] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, one moment, rebooting
[16:16] <dami0> somsip: when i open a file, everything seems to work fine. when i then do :tabe somefile.someextension there is not syntax or really any of the config really
[16:17] <dami0> however, opening that file on its own works just fine (config loaded) and this always happens only when opening anything after the first buffer
[16:17] <somsip> dami0: always with tabe? If you tabnew and then :e any different?
[16:17] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/CJYUAz5j
[16:19] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, that's the syslog grepped to error
[16:20] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, and yes i'm running cinnamon, i'm not a fan of unity
[16:20] <dami0> somsip: yep, same thing
[16:21] <EriC^^> Aeolus0: whatever floats your boat :)
[16:24] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, any ideas?
[16:24] <EriC^^> not really
[16:24] <EriC^^> can you upload the whole thing?
[16:25] <somsip> dami0: sorry - no idea. I'd suggest #vim
[16:25] <mac_15> Hi To everyone
[16:25] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, sure
[16:26] <dami0> somsip: no problem
[16:26] <EriC^^> Aeolus0: maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log has some info too
[16:26] <dami0> thanks for the help anyway
[16:26] <joelmo> Can I upgrade to ubntu 14.10 from 14.04 today?
[16:26] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, it's bone dry, first thing i checked
[16:26] <EriC^^> ok
[16:27] <Aeolus0> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/23BtWAYR
[16:28] <squinty> Aeolus0:  if you have changed the theme then try changing to another to see if the problem is duplicated (ie change back to default theme).  You might also want to consider asking in #linuxmint-dev on spotchat.org irc network
[16:29] <Laurenceb> hi, my desktop is unusable atm, can anyone help?
[16:29] <Aeolus0> squinty, i already asked there they're stumped too. happens in unity as well
[16:29] <Laurenceb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/611619
[16:29] <Aeolus0> squinty, and palin old gnome3
[16:29] <Laurenceb> im getting this bug every few minutes
[16:31] <spaztik> Am I mistaken that 14.10 was supposed to be released today?
[16:31] <Pici> spaztik: It will be released sometime today.
[16:33] <spaztik> ahh, looks like they already uploaded it, just haven't updated the download page
[16:33] <spaztik> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/
[16:34] <Pici> spaztik: correct, the mirrors are updated as they enter the final round of testing.
[16:34] <mcphail> spaztik: not officially release yet. Please consider changing your nick to something less offensive
[16:34] <spaztik> how is my name offensive?
[16:34] <deemo> Hi... I dont have permission to access my 3tb drive
[16:34] <Pici> mcphail: I don't see anything offensive with that nick.
[16:36] <mcphail> spaztik: I don't know if you're a native English speaker but it could be viewed as offensive to those with cerbral palsy.
[16:36] <mcphail> *cerebral
[16:36] <mcphail> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic
[16:37] <Pici> spaztik, mcphail: Speaking as an operator of this channel, I do not find it offensive.
[16:37] <as> ja cem napsat ip
[16:37] <as> a ted i ipp
[16:37] <spaztik> I am a native speaker, and it's not offensive any more that mcphail is, indicating a failure, or Pici, which is slang for small penis...
[16:37] <mcphail> Pici: that's fine, but please at least read the link
[16:38] <spaztik> I read it, and I understand your perspective
[16:38] <as> a ted IPP
[16:38] <spaztik> I'm just trying to have legitimate conversation related to topic
[16:39] <spaztik> Also: """In American slang, the term "spaz" is largely inoffensive, and is generally understood as a casual word for clumsiness, sometimes associated with overexcitability"""
[16:39] <spaztik> So if you have cerebral palsy, I'm sorry to have offended you, otherwise I've been called Spaz my entire life by my friends
[16:40] <after_r> Hi....
[16:40] <DJones> Perhaps time to just get back to ontopic support
[16:40] <mcphail> Well, in Britain that nick would be against the !coc
[16:40] <spaztik> agreed
[16:41] <after_r> I am looking for an open source OS that will run nicely on a Macbook pro 8,3 ... is Ubuntu good for this? The lateest ISO on a USB stick doesnt work well for me... I cant launc hteh live system it just shows a blank screen
[16:41] <after_r> but it works perfecylu on a normal PC
[16:41] <after_r> I tried openbsd but that was a major PITA
[16:42] <spaztik> after_r: did you see this wiki? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[16:43] <spaztik> after_r: also, the speed of the liveusb is dependent on the quality of the flash ram on the USB stick itself
[16:43] <after_r> well right away it flashed an error
[16:43] <after_r> and then it went into a Grub menu
[16:43] <after_r> error was too fast to really see...
[16:43] <spaztik> after_r: secondly, unity can be a resource hog for older machines... Try XUbuntu or install Cinnamon (my personal favorite)
[16:43] <after_r> i suppose I could try to camera it
[16:43] <nico103> hi
[16:44] <after_r> I was actually thinking of Gentoo .. ive used it before
[16:44] <nico103> when I don't need a desktop I tend to stop it with /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[16:44] <after_r> portage is cool
[16:44] <nico103> I do this while not logged in
[16:44] <OerHeks> after_r, read that manual and you'll be fine
[16:44] <spaztik> after_r: probably a bad usb transfer, I've had that issue before... Basically it can't find the kernel... I'd try again: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Mac_OSX
[16:44] <nico103> now when I start it I can't login
[16:44] <after_r> spaztik: but the USB stick worked fine on a PC .. I even installed it on the PC and using it right now
[16:44] <after_r> the lateset version
[16:45] <spaztik> after_r: portage IS cool, if you don't mind compiling from source and getting down to the nitty gritty
[16:45] <nico103> it seems unity exits because... something is corrupted in my gconf??
[16:45] <MrJerome> when will 14.10 be available through the update manager?
[16:45] <nico103> anyways, how do I reset this
[16:45] <nico103> ]this is on 14.04
[16:46] <DJones> MrJerome: Sometime in the next few hours hopefully, still waiting for confirmation of the release though, feel free to join #ubuntu-release-party if you want to wait & party
[16:46] <spaztik> nico103: try rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[16:46] <spaztik> nico103: from your home dir
[16:46] <MrJerome> DJones: cool, thanks
[16:46] <nico103> spaztik: right, I figured, but this is a terrible bug
[16:47] <after_r> yeah, thats how I did make the usb stick
[16:47] <after_r> using that guide
[16:47] <after_r> h/o ill try to make a screenshot
[16:48] <spaztik> I run Cinnamon, which uses gnome libs, never had an issue... I ran unity for a few months without fail, unless I changed a setting somewhere :S It very well could be a bug, but not much can be done if it's not easily reproducible
[16:48] <nico103> spaztik: didn't work
[16:48] <EriC^^> nico103: what's wrong?
[16:48] <spaztik> nico103: check your syslog
[16:48] <nico103> well, it got further, and it showed a dialog about something crashing, then Xorg exited and that was that
[16:48] <spaztik> and your xorg log
[16:48] <nico103> Eric^^: I stop lightdm sometimes, this time when I started it I can no longer login to my desktop
[16:49] <EriC^^> nico103: what happens when you login? did you try restarting lightdm or rebooting?
[16:49] <Gl4di4t0r> Ubuntu 14.10 doesn't work at all in Virtualbox :(
[16:49] <nico103> Eric^^: I don't want to reboot
[16:50] <nico103> spaztik: where does Ubuntu keep those logs?
[16:50] <EriC^^> nico103: why not?
[16:50] <spaztik> nico103: It's a linux standard to put them in /var/log
[16:50] <after_r> from the grub menu, on my macboo, i went into install, it powered on the keyboard backlight, and did the Ubuntu sound... but screen is black
[16:50] <nico103> Eric^^: because that's a Windows answer
[16:50] <spaztik> nico103: you're particularly looking at syslog and Xorg.0.log
[16:51] <spaztik> I'd start with xorg just in case
[16:51] <nico103> Xorg isn't dying; it's unity
[16:51] <EriC^^> nico103: lovely
[16:51] <nico103> EriC^^: lovely?  maybe I should reinstall while I'm at it?  Is that really what users need to hear?
[16:52] <EriC^^> nico103: bro, reinstall? you're about to tell me to have a brain transplant too, well if you insist..
[16:52] <nico103> spaztik: nothing in /var/log/syslog of interest (searched for unity, light, xorg, case-insensitively
[16:52] <EriC^^> go for it!
[16:52] <spaztik> nico103: try moving your dconf: mv ~/.config/dconf/user ~/.config/dconf/user.old
[16:52] <nico103> Eric^^: you're asking me to reboot; first let's try to debug and fix eh?
[16:52] <after_r> it flashed an error too fast to read
[16:53] <EriC^^> nico103: you realize if it was really broke, a restart wouldn't fix it right?
[16:53] <EriC^^> nico103: you're like an idiot who's pulling wires on his car just so he can wrench a little
[16:53] <EriC^^> have fun
[16:53] <nico103> Eric^^: you're the one who suggested rebooting
[16:54] <EriC^^> nico103: yes, cause it reboot might fix it
[16:54] <nico103> Eric^^: do you work for canonical?
[16:55] <spaztik> after_r: do you have the ability to drop to a console from grub, or is it fubar?
[16:55] <after_r> i can
[16:55] <spaztik> after_r: try dmesg | less, and see if there's any errors at the end
[16:55] <after_r> the error is "Could not open "\EFI\BOOT\fallback.efi": 14
[16:55] <after_r> plus I have firmware password on
[16:55] <after_r> its a macbook 8,3
[16:56] <EriC^^> nico103: you seem to be confused, nobody ( or almost nobody ) here works for canonical
[16:57] <spaztik> ahh, your laptop likely doesn't have EFI boot
[16:57] <after_r> and then the next line error: file "/boot/" not found.
[16:57] <after_r> it does.. it has OSX installed
[16:57] <after_r> and running
[16:58] <spaztik> I'm anti Apple, sorry, I'm not familiar with the hardware enough to know if it really has EFI or not.... But it sounds like you do
[16:59] <spaztik> after_r: are you installing 64bit or 32? 32 cannot be installed via EFI/UEFI
[17:00] <Priya--> hi
[17:00] <spaztik> after_r: maybe scan this for tips - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Installing_Ubuntu_in_EFI_mode
[17:00] <Priya--> i want to learn ubuntu
[17:00] <Priya--> anybody want to help me?
[17:00] <spaztik> Priya--: lol that's kind of a big task
[17:00] <spaztik> Priya--: it's going to take years to be a master
[17:02] <EriC^^> Priya--: what do you want to learn first?
[17:02] <intx> d
[17:02] <Priya--> what's the right place to start?
[17:03] <rubiksmomo> I connected into an FTP server using the file manager. It works fine on one server. On another one I can only add and remove files, but not rename them. What could cause it? Is there any log of the FTP commands sent and replies received?
[17:03] <EriC^^> as a start, get familiar with basic terminal stuff
[17:03] <EriC^^> Priya--: and how to install packages, and update the system
[17:03] <guest-Oywe68> right place to start?
[17:03] <somsip> !manual | Priya--
[17:04] <OerHeks> Priya--, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-help/index.html and lots of howto's and magazines http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/
[17:04] <deemo> I ran these two commands - sudo apt-get install --fix-missing and sudo dpkg --configure -a and I got into trouble
[17:05] <deemo> I am thinking its the second one tho
[17:05] <chettikandathil> hello, can i get a windows like ribbon menu in ubuntu? like the one with which i can copy or paste or open a folder by clicking on an image.
[17:05] <deemo> my trouble now is that the appearance has changes, some icons dont show anymore but there are there when you hover etc
[17:05] <Priya--> so, it's like reading books again?
[17:05] <spaztik> rubiksmomo: it's best to look at the log of the ftp server itself
[17:06] <rubiksmomo> spaztik, that server has no log function. :<
[17:06] <EriC^^> Priya--: it's a lot more practical, and you can figure a lot of stuff out on your own
[17:06] <nico103> Eric^^: reboot helped, but that's awful
[17:06] <EriC^^> Priya--: apropos and man are two invaluable tools
[17:06] <nico103> awful software
[17:06] <nico103> oh well
[17:07] <Priya--> figuring stuff out alone is boring
[17:07] <spaztik> lol
[17:07] <EriC^^> lol
[17:07] <EriC^^> what do you want
[17:07] <EriC^^> you said reading is boring ( or implied )
[17:07] <spaztik> Priya--: join a meetup in your area, there's tons all over the world
[17:07] <EriC^^> and figuring out on your as well
[17:07] <chettikandathil> ribbon like menu in ubuntu? is it possible?
[17:07] <somsip> EriC^^: Time to stop feeding the troll - he's taken you totally on this one...
[17:07] <spaztik> chettikandathil: what do you mean?
[17:07] <chettikandathil> ribbon menu for file explorer i mean
[17:07] <chettikandathil> like in windows
[17:08] <EriC^^> somsip: i guess my trolldar isn't up to par today
[17:08] <EriC^^> :P
[17:08] <somsip> EriC^^: easily to get sucked in sometimes :)
[17:08] <Priya--> meetups are good
[17:08] <Priya--> where do i rsvp?
[17:08] <spaztik> chettikandathil: i think you're the only one to have ever asked for that :P
[17:09] <spaztik> Priya--: meetup.com
[17:09] <rubiksmomo> chettikandathil, It would be easier to just use shortcut keys ctrl + x/c/v
[17:09] <chettikandathil> spaztik, my father uses this thing. and he can't double click. he uses ribbon in windows.
[17:09] <chettikandathil> i need something similar so he can switch to ubuntu
[17:09] <spaztik> chettikandathil: hmm... i see.
[17:10] <rubiksmomo> chettikandathil, right click to open the menu?
[17:10] <chettikandathil> the double click, copy paste, rename such stuff are too confusing for him. only if i can show him some image like in ribbon menu
[17:10] <kikkoITA> hi guys sorry i'm writing from italy and i would to chat in a general server chat of US or UK.. can u tell me which is the best? most famous plz?
[17:10] <chettikandathil> rubiksmomo, it is the laptop, very tough to teach him the right click.
[17:11] <hey_joe> is there a version of the ubuntu mac installer that will boot on the Xserve 1,1?
[17:11] <chettikandathil> like i can't tell him when to use single click when to use double click etc. also where to click to get single click and where double click
[17:11] <hey_joe> the current 14.04 AMD64 mac installer doesnt seem to boot
[17:11] <kikkoITA> noone can help me ? :(
[17:11] <hey_joe> im assuming I need to install rEFIt first.. which i dont really want to.
[17:11] <noah__> anyone here that can help me?
[17:12] <somsip> noah__: just ask your question
[17:12] <noah__> Ok
[17:12] <noah__> Just wanted to see if anyoen was not busy
[17:13] <somsip> noah__: ask your question and you'll find out
[17:13] <rubiksmomo> noah__, we are busy replying questions like "can I ask"
[17:13] <noah__> I installed burg (an alternative bootloader built on grub) and now all I have when I boot is a grub command line when I boot
[17:13] <chettikandathil> and not to mention that his hands are too big. even if i buy him a mouse, he can't click right finger. only left works.
[17:14] <somsip> !info burg
[17:14] <somsip> noah__: and where did you get burg from?
[17:14] <chettikandathil> or maybe control - click like in mac will work. is that possible in ubuntu?
[17:15] <noah__> Um. I forget the website which told me how. Lem me find it real quick
[17:15] <noah__> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-make-your-dual-boot-better-with-burg
[17:15] <Priya--> thanks EriC^^ spaztik.. no thanks to you somsip :P
[17:16] <squinty> chettikandathil:  been awhile since I have used kde but seem to recall similar functions in it.  http://www.ghacks.net/2009/08/17/editing-your-kde-menus/  seems to indicate possibilities (old post though so might want to check for newer)
[17:16] <noah__> I don't have access to that computer right now though. I'm just planning in advance.
[17:16] <somsip> noah__: the thing being, it's not an official ubuntu package, so you're very unlikely to get support in here. You might get help from the PPA maintainer if you file a bug. See the big red warning on the page you just linked
[17:17] <noah__> somsip__: well really it's a problem of booting into a computer via thge grub command line
[17:17] <noah__> oops
[17:17] <noah__> somsip:
[17:17] <somsip> noah__: personally, I can't help you with that. An other may be able to so keep asking every now and then
[17:17] <chettikandathil> squinty, thanks. i will look into it.
[17:18] <noah__> somsip: i have one more question
[17:18] <noah__> somsip: once I get it to boot is it OK to just reinstall grub over the top of it w/ grub customizer
[17:19] <Fishscene> Quick question (Hopefully): Is there a separate ARM installation disk, or has that all been merged into the Desktop/Server ISO's?
[17:19] <somsip> !grubrepair | noah__ (the only thing I know about grub is there are links here that might help)
[17:19] <reisio> Fishscene: yes, separate
[17:20] <asssholll> trebbbba ip
[17:20] <guest716> how to setup mame in ubuntu? I am used to windows
[17:20] <asssholll> IP
[17:20] <somsip> !ppa-purge | noah__ (and you might need this too)
[17:21] <Fishscene> reisio: Do you know where I might find the download for it? I can only find arm iso's for 13.10.
[17:21] <noah__> ubottu: sure. And do you know more about bootloaders
[17:21] <reisio> Fishscene: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm
[17:21] <noah__> oh :P
[17:22] <noah__> !burg | test
[17:22] <somsip> noah__: I trigger the bot with !ppa-purge etc.
[17:22] <noah__> I know
[17:23] <somsip> noah__: use !brain for more info, use | {nick} to get the bot to address it to someone
[17:23] <noah__> :)
[17:24] <asssholll> ip
[17:24] <asssholll> daco ako ip
[17:25] <mightcould> hi, i have a problem. im new to linux and after taking advice from someone yesterday my compiz is now screwed up. my workspaces dont save after a restart, and i have to run the command compiz --replace everytime i start linux to get wobbly windows back. How can i fix this?
[17:25] <reisio> mightcould: ordinary Ubuntu+Unity?
[17:25] <Fishscene> reisio: Yea, I saw that… but it says it will be available soon for 14.04 LTS, and there's a developer sign up, but for the life of me I can't find a download.
[17:25] <reisio> Fishscene: just use Debian
[17:26] <testmy> hi Severus_
[17:26] <reisio> Fishscene: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#smallcd
[17:26] <testmy> Severus_: hi
[17:26] <Fishscene> -_-. Hard to seed torrents for Ubuntu for ARM by downloading Debian. :S
[17:26] <reisio> Fishscene: armel or armhf
[17:26] <reisio> Fishscene: also pointless :)
[17:27] <Fishscene> reisio: I honestly don't know the difference, but  either one (or both) would work I guess.
[17:27] <reisio> Fishscene: Ubuntu is a copy of Debian with little changes sprinkled all over
[17:27] <asssholll> ip
[17:27] <reisio> and less hardware support
[17:27] <asssholll> lebo ip
[17:27] <mightcould> reisio, xubuntu. i tried emerald per the other guys instruction and it was terrbile. so i uninstalled it, when back to /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator but now everytime i restart i have to run compiz --replace to get wobbly windows working AND i have to spend 5 minutes restarting and tinkering with 3d cube to get it working again.
[17:27] <asssholll> lebo ip.
[17:28] <asssholll> .ip
[17:28] <asssholll> kontroluj .ip
[17:28] <reisio> mightcould: k
[17:28] <reisio> mightcould: you have it running now?
[17:28] <Fishscene> So, as I understand it, Ubuntu 14.04 ARM support just doesn't exist yet?
[17:29] <reisio> Fishscene: it must exist somewhere if they mention it
[17:29] <reisio> but you won't get any advantage over a Debian image
[17:29] <mightcould> reisio, yes im on linux now
[17:29] <reisio> mightcould: and compiz is running?
[17:29] <mcphail> Fishscene: I think there were/are plans to target specific platforms but no generic ARM image AFAIK
[17:29] <usr13> mightcould: What problem were you attempting to fix yesterday?
[17:29] <asssholll> ip
[17:30] <mightcould> reisio, not yet, i spent 4 hours lastnight trying to fix it. so i havent fixed it yet this morning i wanted to find a working solution first
[17:30] <reisio> mightcould: okay
[17:30] <asssholll> resipt
[17:30] <Fishscene> mcphail: Gotchya. Thanks reisio and mcphail.
[17:30] <spaztik> anyone have familiarity with cinnamon and keeping up to date with it?
[17:30] <asssholll> a ip a
[17:30] <asssholll> a ipa
[17:30] <reisio> Fishscene: Ubuntu is sourced from Debian, but they care less about Debian's other architectures
[17:30] <bynarie> anyone know of a way that actually works to get eth0 use a static ip? I have already tried editing /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:31] <mightcould> usr13, i had compiz working perfect, then some guy insisted i use an out dated and non working program called emerald. never worked once and i hated it cause it screwed everything up so i uninstalled it. now compiz never works right
[17:31] <asssholll> a ip
[17:31] <reisio> mightcould: what version of ubuntu?
[17:31] <mcphail> bynarie: from GUI or command line? Network manager works fine for static IP from GUI
[17:31] <mightcould> reisio, and i followed to guides lastnight to restore/reset compiz and unity. none of it worked it just clashed unity and xfce together.
[17:31] <reisio> mightcould: I only need you to answer my questions, I know all about making compiz work
[17:31] <mightcould> reisio, xubuntu 14.04
[17:32] <reisio> mightcould: k
[17:32] <Fishscene> reisio: Correct. I'm not able to contribute much to the community, but I do what I can by seeding the torrents. I just wanted to grab all of them, but I noticed that the ARM image seemed to be missing, which was previously available for 13.10.
[17:32] <reisio> Fishscene: well, their loss :)
[17:32] <azizLIGHT> so do i get ubuntu 14.10 now?
[17:32] <azizLIGHT> from the updates
[17:32] <spaztik> azizLIGHT: it's not out yet
[17:32] <asssholll> ip
[17:33] <reisio> mightcould: run this: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[17:33] <reisio> mightcould: then let me know when it's done
[17:33] <mightcould> ok
[17:33] <azizLIGHT> is there anyway to make backups before doing these updates that have things like X in them because they scare me a bit honestly (ive had X updates that rendered me GUI-less before)
[17:33] <asssholll> ip
[17:34] <mcphail> azizLIGHT: If you use btrfs as your filesystem you can make a snapshot before an update
[17:34] <mightcould> reisio, ok its complete
[17:34] <azizLIGHT> im on ext4 unfortunately
[17:34] <Fishscene> "asssholl" please post something coherent.
[17:35] <asssholll> ip
[17:35] <reisio> mightcould: alright, open a terminal and run 'fusion-icon', find the command where it says "executing: {HERE}", and copy that
[17:35] <EriC^^> i think asssholll is making an artistic statement, that ip's are flooding us
[17:35] <Fishscene> asssholll: Elaborate?
[17:35] <bynarie> mcphail, i figured it out.. Thanks
[17:35] <reisio> mightcould: then hit CTRL+c to cancel, and run xfwm4 --replace
[17:35] <mightcould> fusion-icon
[17:35] <mightcould> ops wc
[17:35] <azizLIGHT> mcphail: can i have btrfs as / and ext4 as /home (i already have sep partitions setup) and maybe i can do btrfs for 14.10 fresh install on /
[17:36] <mightcould> reisio, ok immedately it said compiz icon has closed unexpectedly
[17:36] <reisio> mightcould: realllllllyyyyyy
[17:36] <reisio> mightcould: okay, what does 'compiz --replace' say?
[17:36] <mcphail> azizLIGHT: Yes, of course. But one of the advantages of btrfs is having a single partition for everything and keeping / and /home under subvolumes. The standard installer does that by default. it is slick
[17:36] <reisio> mcphail: that's not an advantage, you can do that with most any FS
[17:36] <mightcould> reisio, you want me to run the replace command now and tell you what it says correct?
[17:36] <reisio> mightcould: yup
[17:36] <mightcould> reisio, ok 1 sec
[17:37] <azizLIGHT> oh ok so its a bit more complicated and i need to read up on it then... i already have a lvm luks setup in here
[17:37] <mcphail> reisio: how do you have subvolumes under ext4?
[17:37] <reisio> mcphail: lvm
[17:37] <mcphail> reisio: that's not really under the filesystem, though, is it?
[17:37] <reisio> the advantages with btrfs are things like speed and native snapshots
[17:37] <reisio> mcphail: mm, semantics
[17:37] <mcphail> reisio: :)
[17:37] <dknuth> Hi. I'm trying to set up bind9 in ubuntu server 14.04 and make it a home DNS server. I'm following this: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-bind-as-an-authoritative-only-dns-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[17:37] <dknuth> when I go through and attempt to do named-checkconf, I get this:
[17:38] <dknuth> http://pastebin.com/gEWLwM9X
[17:38] <dknuth> i can has halp pleez?
[17:38] <spaztik> If i want to change a PPA for packages, do I purge-ppa or do i remove the PPA, add the new one, and update?
[17:39] <mightcould> reisio,  http://pastebin.com/KuiPLwhC    theres what it says, and now i have the unity launcher and the xfce taskbar on the same desktop. but now wobbly windows works.
[17:39] <rwp> dknuth, The error message in your pastebin seems clear.  Missing semicolon.
[17:39] <dknuth> rwp: right, I put in the semi-colon and it removes the first error line
[17:39] <dknuth> however the next two remain.
[17:39] <rwp> dknuth, pastebin your named.conf.local file if you want me to look at it.
[17:39] <reisio> mightcould: and you have window title bars?
[17:40] <dknuth> rwp: sec:
[17:40] <Paramezius> hello, could anybody help me?
[17:40] <reisio> Paramezius: no, but many bodies could
[17:40] <mightcould> reisio, yes on my windows i see the title and the close, min,max buttons
[17:40] <rwp> Paramezius, Please don't ask to ask. Just ask.
[17:40] <Paramezius> I've installed ubuntu 14.04 64 bit
[17:40] <reisio> mightcould: okay, so it's good if it saved as it is now?
[17:41] <azizLIGHT> anyone read any good recent comparison article for btrfs vs zfs
[17:41] <Paramezius> I tryed uninstalling some unity-copes to have my dash as clean as possible
[17:41] <mightcould> reisio,  no far from it. my desktop is mangled. unity and xfce are both here at the same time, cube doesnt work and if i restart it'll be the same issue.
[17:41] <Paramezius> now i can't see any application
[17:41] <impi> hey guys, i've installed something, andnow when i want to send a file in skype it shows mea crappy old gnome folders view
[17:41] <reisio> azizLIGHT: btrfs is less mature, but it has more of a future because of its license
[17:41] <impi> please. help.
[17:41] <Paramezius> even in the search field
[17:42] <reisio> mightcould: well, one step at a time
[17:42] <impi> i tried unity reset...didnt work
[17:42] <mightcould> reisio, ok cube does work. mybad but this is the same thing that happened lastnight for 4 hours. if i restart i got to do all that over again. even though i have the option selected to save setting in compiz
[17:42] <dknuth> rwp: pastebin.com/0GgyX6PR
[17:42] <pavlos> Paramezius, re-install your application
[17:42] <azizLIGHT> reisio: sure, i hear that zfs is better than btrfs right now. and in some undefined point in the future btrfs might be better
[17:42] <spaztik> impi: like when you click "Send" it opens an old view, or when you recieve the file and click on it?
[17:42] <dknuth> I'm sure it's something stupidly retarded.
[17:42] <dknuth> :D
[17:43] <Paramezius> pavlos, i mean i can't see any applicationn in the dash, there is nothing
[17:43] <ilf> is there a channel for the release party?
[17:43] <reisio> mightcould: wget -O ~/.config/autostart/compiz.desktop 'http://dpaste.com/18FFXBZ.txt'
[17:43] <mightcould> reisio, yeah i understand it'll take a while to fix, i just hope it can be done. i just want it normal again :(
[17:43] <spaztik> ilf: #ubuntu-release-party
[17:43] <impi> spaztik: when i right click on a person to say send file, the resulting folder view where i browse for the file is this ugly ass gnome look thing
[17:43] <mightcould> reisio,  run that in a term?
[17:43] <ilf> spaztik: thanks!
[17:43] <reisio> mightcould: yeah
[17:43] <mightcould> k
[17:43] <rwp> dknuth, On line 19 you have a ";" in the name of your zone. Looks like a typo. Remove it.
[17:43] <mcphail> azizLIGHT: zfs isn't more mature in the linux world. It is a hack, at best
[17:43] <reisio> azizLIGHT: that is the story
[17:43] <pavlos> Paramezius, I suggest logout/login or reboot, then search via dash.
[17:43] <spaztik> impi: open your file manager, right click on a folder, open with, and pick what you want.. be sure to hit "Set Default" before closing the window
[17:44] <spaztik> see if that works
[17:44] <reisio> it's not any more of a hack than any other kernel module
[17:44] <reisio> but due to its license, it will absolutely not endure as long
[17:44] <dknuth> rwp: okay, but if i remove it, it gives me the error about missing a ; before blah blah blah
[17:44] <mightcould> reisio, well i closed that term you had me open and my screen flicked a lot for a second. hope that's ok. running command now
[17:44] <rwp> dknuth, On line 14 you are missing a ; on the end of the line.
[17:44] <reisio> mightcould: should be fine
[17:44] <dknuth> rwp: oh. derp.
[17:44] <dknuth> see? something stupidly simple!
[17:44] <Paramezius> pavlos, I tryed several times to restart an even to unity reset but nothing happens
[17:44] <rwp> dknuth, On line 14 you are missing a finishing double quote.  That is the root of all of your problems.
[17:44] <dknuth> lemme fix and see what happens
[17:44] <mightcould> reisio, ok command ran
[17:44] <reisio> mightcould: alright, it should start reliably when you log in now
[17:45] <rwp> dknuth, The run on string was finally terminated by the double quote on line 19.
[17:45] <reisio> mightcould: check ccsm to attempt to disable the unity bar
[17:45] <pavlos> Paramezius, "nothing happens" means dash cannot search anything?
[17:45] <mightcould> reisio, and it wont show both desktops at the same time like it is now right?
[17:45] <mightcould> reisio,  ok
[17:45] <reisio> mightcould: it's probably only showing Xfce and the Unity bar
[17:45] <reisio> not actually two whole desktops
[17:45] <syadnom> anyone using lightdm w/ freerdp?  I can't find out the entry for lightdm.conf to enable rdp
[17:45] <reisio> at one point you could disable the unity bar from ccsm
[17:45] <reisio> hopefully that's still the case
[17:45] <rwp> dknuth, When you get errors like that you can't simply start throwing in individual hacks. You must look to see why the error is occurring.
[17:45] <Paramezius> that's it
[17:45] <rasputin> hello
[17:45] <rasputin>  every body
[17:45] <rasputin> moro
[17:46] <rasputin> kuis menee
[17:46] <mightcould> reisio, cool i unchecked unity and the launcher went away :D
[17:46] <rasputin> XD
[17:46] <rasputin> XD
[17:46] <reisio> mightcould: :)
[17:46] <rasputin> nice day?
[17:46] <reisio> syadnom: 'lightdm-remote-session-freerdp'
[17:46] <dknuth> rwp: thanks!
[17:46] <daftykins> rasputin: no chat in here, support questions only.
[17:46] <asssholll> ip
[17:46] <rwp> dknuth, But I realize that it is easy to miss things like that.  A second set of eyes on the file often helps a lot.  Happy to help with that part.
[17:46] <dknuth> that done did fix it
[17:46] <syadnom> reisio, yeah, but I can't fidn the config optiosn for that
[17:46] <daftykins> asssholll: stop that thanks.
[17:46] <zerick> Has anybody used travis-ci.org to build debian packages ?
[17:46] <reisio> syadnom: dpkg -L lightdm-remote-session-freerdp | grep -i etc
[17:46] <rasputin> nope
[17:46] <dknuth> rwp: fair warning: i've been off linux for about 8 years
[17:46] <dknuth> so, very rusty too
[17:46] <mightcould> reisio, oh... but now when i use the 3d cube i get bad drawing, not screen tearing exactly but its not exactly right
[17:47] <rasputin> what
[17:47] <rasputin> i use ubuntu
[17:47] <pavlos> Paramezius, try unity --reset from a terminal
[17:47] <rasputin> i think install arch linux..
[17:47] <rwp> dknuth, Don't be gone for so long next time! :-)
[17:47] <rasputin> it is hard?
[17:47] <reisio> rasputin: only if you're illiterate
[17:47] <syadnom> reisio, nothing there that looks usefull, just pam and apparmor.
[17:48] <reisio> mightcould: you could try editing ~/.config/autostart/compiz.desktop and changing it from compiz --replace to compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp
[17:48] <dknuth> rwp: hah, will do
[17:48] <Paramezius> pavlos, as i told before, i tryed unity --reset but nothing
[17:48] <rasputin>  reisio okay
[17:49] <mightcould> reisio, hold on, before we move to the grahpical error. i wanna restart and see if it saved is that ok sir?
[17:49] <pavlos> Paramezius, take a look ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/125843/dash-search-gives-no-result
[17:49] <reisio> mightcould: <shrug>
[17:50] <impi> this is what i see : http://snag.gy/6aEXI.jpg how do i get my default unity folder view back?
[17:50] <mightcould> reisio, no? i wont if you dont want me to, ok ill try to run that command. hopefully it'll fix the graphical issue
[17:51] <reisio> I don't care man :)
[17:51] <mightcould> reisio, my permission was denied
[17:51] <reisio> mightcould: hrmm?
[17:51] <mightcould> i ran that command and my permission was denied
[17:51] <reisio> mightcould: ran what command?
[17:52] <mightcould> ~/.config/autostart/compiz.desktop
[17:52] <syadnom> reisio, were you just pointing me in an 'obvious' direction or have you gotten lightdm-remote-session-freerd to work?
[17:52] <asssholll> u want too much
[17:53] <reisio> mightcould: that's not a command, that's a file path
[17:53] <mightcould> reisio, but i dont have a folder that starts with ~?
[17:53] <Diana> Anne34
[17:53] <spaztik> facepalm
[17:53] <EriC^^> ~ means your home directory
[17:53] <Fohlen> anyone in here advanced with ubuntu and nvidia legacy drivers? I am trying to get TF2 running under Quadro FX 1500 but I am running into glColorMaskIndexedEXT. Anyhow I've got nvidia-updates-304 and it says the module supports it
[17:53] <Fohlen> http://feedback.wildfiregames.com/report/opengl/feature/GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 also tells me it is working
[17:54] <asssholll> dat ip
[17:54] <Fohlen> will I need some older or newer graphic driver, will I need to use experimental?
[17:54] <asssholll> ip
[17:54] <k1l> asssholll: can you reduce the nonsense in here? thanks
[17:55] <mightcould> reisio,  ok i found it
[17:55] <reisio> syadnom: might ask #freerdp
[17:55] <Fishscene> !ops > asssholll
[17:55] <syadnom> reisio, didn't know that was there.  I think that's the wrong avenue though, I want to connect to the machine via rdp..
[17:56] <reisio> syadnom: so don't ask them
[17:57] <mightcould> reisio,  ok i found it and replaced the exe with the one you suggested but the visual error is still there
[17:57] <mightcould> reisio,  i tried to take a screen shot for but, but for some great reason, printscreen doesnt do its thing when moving the cube
[17:57] <Fohlen> okaxy nvm dumb I see, it really needs draw_buffers2 on the hardware side
[17:58] <Fohlen> shame on hl
[17:58] <andornaut> I accidentally locked myself out of my encrypted home dir. This might be b/c I changed my pw with sudo passwd <user>; I do not remember the pw I used during OS installation when the encrypted homedir was created. When I login now, the login keyring is not unlocked, so I have to switch to console and run encryptfs-mount-private. This failed, but it succeeded after I tried first running `keyctl session`. So, question is can I add a new pw to the encrypte
[17:59] <sudormrf> looking for best dreamweaver alternative for linux, suggestions?
[17:59] <asssholll> isa
[17:59] <reisio> mightcould: mmm, did compiz work alright with ordinary Unity?
[18:00] <mightcould> reisio, well it worked perfectly fine with xubu before lastnight. haven't tried with just unity cause im not fond of it.
[18:00] <azizLIGHT> should i put apt-get update and apt-get upgrade -y into crontab for root. why or why not
[18:01] <usr13> sudormrf:
[18:01] <usr13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2160653
[18:01] <mcphail> azizLIGHT: NOOOOO...... Unattended upgrades can be a disaster
[18:01] <mightcould> reisio, the best way to discribe the visual error is when windows xp has a direct x error and when you move a window and it leaves a trail, know what i mean? thats whats happened. its not a vsync issue. its a rendering/drawing issue behind the cube, not the cube its self
[18:01] <usr13> sudormrf: http://wiki.winehq.org/AdobeDreamweaver
[18:02] <k1l> azizLIGHT: no.
[18:02] <sudormrf> usr13, don't own dreamweaver, looking for something that doesn't use wine.
[18:02] <sudormrf> usr13, looking at the thread
[18:02] <azizLIGHT> ok, but why
[18:02] <mightcould> reisio,  and it looks so awful
[18:02] <k1l> azizLIGHT: and apt-get upgrade is not enough even
[18:02] <reisio> mightcould: so what'd you break last night?
[18:02] <mcphail> azizLIGHT: some upgrades require interaction and lock dpkg, for example
[18:03] <mcphail> azizLIGHT: shutting down whilst and upgrade is running can leave the system in an inconsistent state
[18:03] <mightcould> reisio,  thats the thing idk, i tried emerald per that other guys instructions. it never worked and broke everything, so i uninstalled it and swtiched my WM back to /usr/bin/gtk-window-decorator. so idk what the problem is
[18:03] <k1l> azizLIGHT: better question: what is wrong with the updates popup?
[18:03] <mcphail> azizLIGHT: all kinds of problems
[18:03] <Xheartt> Hi everyone, i am using an old PC running great with 12.10 LTS do i really need 14.04 LTS? It seems 14.04 LTS is for tablet users.
[18:03] <spaztik> yay i found a cinnamon nightly PPA!
[18:04] <spaztik> breakages, here we come!!!!!
[18:04] <reisio> Xheartt: need, no
[18:04] <usr13> sudormrf: There is seamonkey
[18:04] <reisio> Xheartt: but you should always be updating
[18:04] <mcphail> k1l: major problem with update popup
[18:04] <reisio> mightcould: ps aux | grep -i decor
[18:04] <Xheartt> it there much benefit to upgrade to 14.04 LTS?
[18:04] <spaztik> Xheartt: as a whole, sure it's adding features you might not need, but the underlying packages have been fixed for security issues, stability, etc
[18:04] <k1l> mcphail: what major problem?
[18:04] <usr13> sudormrf: http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/287/wysiwyg-html-editor-for-linux
[18:04] <mightcould> reisio, ok i ran that
[18:04] <k1l> Xheartt: from what version?
[18:05] <spaztik> but as the saying goes: if it ain't broke, don't fix it
[18:05] <mcphail> k1l: there's no longer a button to refresh packages and if you suspend (rather than reboot) for a long time the packages can be stale leading to a borked upgrade
[18:05] <reisio> mightcould: and what's it say?
[18:05] <Xheartt> when i upgrade to 14.04 do i loose my current information and files?
[18:05] <jane_> ip
[18:05] <spaztik> you're probably succeptible to heartbleed, etc
[18:05] <spaztik> Xheartt: so much has changed since then, your configs might not be valid anymore
[18:05] <mightcould> reisio, http://pastebin.com/uYL0yde0
[18:05] <jane_> i want to change it
[18:06] <Xheartt> spaztik thank you for the information!
[18:06] <jane_> i wan
[18:06] <k1l> Xheartt: which ubuntu version are you on?
[18:06] <spaztik> Xheartt: anytime
[18:06] <spaztik> k1l: he's on 12.04
[18:06] <reisio> mightcould: okay, well there shouldn't be two, that might be part of the problem
[18:07] <usr13> Xheartt: You can backup your /home/Xheartt
[18:07] <Xheartt> 12.10 lts
[18:07] <reisio> mightcould: killall gtk-window-decorator; gtk-window-decorator --replace &>/dev/null
[18:07] <sudormrf> usr13, what about aptana?
[18:07] <k1l> well, he said 12.10. that is not a LTS at all. so that would cause some issues
[18:07] <usr13> Xheartt: 12.04 is LTS
[18:07] <jane_> pudum pudum wan
[18:07] <Fishscene> jane_: Do you want to set a static IP address or just get a new lease from the DHCP server?
[18:07] <k1l> Xheartt: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[18:07] <sudormrf> usr13, or bluefish?
[18:08] <usr13> Xheartt: If you have /home/ on it's own partition, you can choose to leave it alone.
[18:08] <mightcould> reisio, ok i ran that but i dont think anything happenes
[18:08] <usr13> sudormrf: Yes
[18:08] <sudormrf> usr13, are those WYSIWYG?
[18:08] <usr13> sudormrf: Yes
[18:08] <Xheartt> one second
[18:08] <sudormrf> have dreamweaver at work
[18:09] <sudormrf> but would not want to rely on it
[18:09] <Xheartt> how i access my terminal to enter that command?
[18:09] <k1l> Xheartt: "ctrl+alt+t"
[18:10] <Es0teric> has anyone ever got the error: htpasswd: cannot create file /etc/apache2/auth/users on `sudo htpasswd -c /etc/apache2/auth/users username` ?
[18:10] <Xheartt> it gives me Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[18:10]  * vitimiti is back
[18:10] <Xheartt> not .10 as i thought
[18:10] <k1l> Xheartt: ok. good
[18:11] <k1l> Xheartt: you could make the LTS upgrade from 12.04 direct to 14.04. but be sure to have important data backuped in case something goes wrong
[18:11] <jhutchins_wk> Es0teric: Does the user you're running as have permissions?  Does the file exist?  Is there space on the disk?
[18:12] <Xheartt> will it take a lot of memory on the HD?
[18:12] <mcphail> Xheartt: today is, perhaps, not the day to do an LTS upgrade. Everything is going to grind to a halt soon
[18:13] <Es0teric> jhutchins_wk yes, theres space on the disk, yes the user has permissions.. user owns the folder recursively and the file does not exist which is why i am using the `-c` param
[18:13] <k1l> Xheartt: well. not a lot but is the disk low on free space?
[18:14] <Xheartt> i only have 9 gb
[18:14] <k1l> Xheartt: that should be enough.
[18:14] <Xheartt> is it good to upgrade to 14.04?
[18:14] <Xheartt> ok
[18:14] <reisio> mightcould: output isn't better?
[18:14] <Xheartt> will try and be back
[18:14] <mightcould> reisio, is it too broke to fix now? like broke beyond repair?
[18:14] <Es0teric> jhutchins_wk owns the folder recursively as in.. auth/
[18:15] <mightcould> reisio, no still terribly bad behind the cube
[18:15] <reisio> mightcould: no, that never happens
[18:15] <reisio> behind the cube...
[18:15] <usr13> Xheartt: It is up to you. (12.04 is good and EOL is still couple years away)
[18:15] <mightcould> reisio, its like a seizure storm behind the cube. im afraid to look at it haha
[18:16] <reisio> k :p
[18:16] <reisio> gtg
[18:16] <mightcould> reisio, but its made up of windows tho. like all the windows i have open, this chrome and term. all seizuring in the background
[18:17] <mightcould> well that's great he left. anyone else know how to get compiz working right?
[18:17] <mcphail> mightcould: out of interest, what graphics card and driver are you using?
[18:18] <EriC^^> mightcould: you could try to reinstall compiz
[18:18] <EriC^^> i guess\
[18:19] <Benny_> Is there a secure (HTTPS) website available for downloading a ubuntu iso torrent?
[18:19] <mightcould> mcphail, GTX 770 SC 2GB and the nvidia drivers, games and everything work fine. just after trying to fix compiz for 5 hours everything is back to normal execpt the behind the cube glitching
[18:19] <mcphail> mightcould: which version of nvidia driver?
[18:19] <mightcould> EriC^^, Hi Eric!! :D   and yeah that was one of the first things i tried lastnight
[18:20] <mightcould> mcphail, the lastest one from the software center. its not a driver issue. it was working perfectly fine lastnight before i got talked into trying emerald
[18:20] <mcphail> mightcould: have you set the PowerMizer in nvidia-settings to "Prefer Maximum Performance"? The current nvidia driver doesn't get on well with compiz unless that is set
[18:20] <OerHeks> !emerald
[18:20] <EriC^^> lol
[18:21] <EriC^^> so blunt
[18:21] <EriC^^> !cookie | ubottu
[18:21] <mightcould> emerald screwed it up. so i uninstalled emerald reinstalled compiz, had a world of problems but then reiso help me fix all but one problem. the glitching visuals
[18:21] <ubuntu-gnome> hello
[18:21] <ubuntu-gnome> Urgent help please
[18:21] <usr13> mightcould: Are you fully updated?
[18:22] <ubuntu-gnome> Anyone here ?
[18:22] <mcphail> mightcould: yep - but glitching visuals are a characteristic of the clash between the nvidia driver and compiz. Can you try that setting to see if it helps?
[18:22] <mightcould> usr13, considering this is my 3rd day on linux i assume so. Doesn't everyone understand it worked perfectly fine lastnight. no driver changes have happened since then
[18:22] <usr13> mightcould: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:22] <mcphail> mightcould: no, but your compiz setup has changed since then
[18:22] <mightcould> mcphail, yes ill look up that setting. thanks for helping me i appreciate it
[18:23] <Es0teric> has anyone ever got the error: htpasswd: cannot create file /etc/apache2/auth/users on `sudo htpasswd -c /etc/apache2/auth/users username` ?
[18:23] <mcphail> mightcould: i'm not confident it will help but give it a try. Easy enough to change back if it doesn;t
[18:23] <ubuntu-gnome> I'm using ubuntu gnome from USB now , I wanted to make a fresh installation of ubuntu 14.10 because wifi wasnt working in ubuntu 14.04 . but also its not working now in 14.10
[18:24] <ubuntu-gnome> Is it a driver issue ?
[18:24] <OerHeks> !isitout
[18:24] <usr13> ubottu: What does iwconfig say?
[18:24] <usr13> ubuntu-gnome: What does iwconfig say?
[18:25] <ubuntu-gnome> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[18:25] <ubuntu-gnome> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any
[18:25] <ubuntu-gnome>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=off
[18:25] <ubuntu-gnome>           Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[18:25] <ubuntu-gnome>           Power Management:off
[18:25] <ubuntu-gnome>           
[18:25] <mightcould> mcphail, yeah i changed it, no good only bad, glitching is still there and now my gpu clock is ramped up. 111mhz instead of auto downclocking to save power
[18:25] <unopaste> ubuntu-gnome you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:25] <mcphail> mightcould: OK, turn it back down. Worth a try. If you get glitching in firefox etc you'll have to turn it back up, though
[18:26] <bobunkuth> what file do I look at  to see what is causing 14.04 to restart several time on cold startup
[18:26] <squinty> ubuntu-gnome:  might want to check  Software and Updates > Additional Drivers tab.  see if any wireless driver is listed there.
[18:27] <ubuntu-gnome> squinty : ok 1 min please
[18:27] <mightcould> mcphail, yeah everything else seems fine, just now with compiz and the 3d cube when i move the cube. behind the cube is a terrible mess of all my windows glitching in the background. the cube itself renders fine
[18:27] <ubuntu-gnome> only nvidia driver listed there
[18:27] <usr13> ubuntu-gnome: See txpower section in man iwconfig
[18:28] <mcphail> mightcould: compiz and emerald was the worst combination to ever hit Ubuntu. I'm no use at debugging the mess it causes, unfortunately
[18:28] <squinty> ubuntu-gnome: for an easy overview of your wireless setup you might want to install  inxi   (sudo apt-get install inxi ) and then issue the following command in terminal  inxi -Nnx
[18:28] <usr13> ubuntu-gnome: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:29] <bobunkuth> what file do I look at  to see what is causing 14.04 to restart several time on cold startup
[18:29] <mightcould> mcphail, i guess, i just wish that gorbyebrius guy didnt mislead me into beleiving it was fine and now my perfectly fine OS is screwed up
[18:29] <EriC^^> bobunkuth: type dmesg
[18:29] <ubuntu-gnome> squinty: check ur pm please
[18:30] <squinty> ubuntu-gnome:  please don't PM without asking participants first.  i personally do not pm
[18:30] <mcphail> mightcould: everyone's a volunteer on here, I'm afraid, and sometimes you'll get bad advice. Sorry
[18:30] <Es0teric> if i want to make .htpasswd files for seperate environments within the same server i just do something like `sudo htpasswd -c .htpasswd-env username` right?
[18:30] <ubuntu-gnome> because I can't paste result here , they will block me again
[18:30] <rww> ubuntu-gnome: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:30] <rww> as the bot told you already
[18:31] <squinty> ubuntu-gnome:  then pastebin (or similar) it
[18:31] <mightcould> WOOT i figured something out! it's skydome! i disabled skydome and now theres nothing behind the cute, maybe i dont get pretty visuals anymore but thats better than glitching :D
[18:31] <mcphail> mightcould: ha! well done
[18:31] <ubuntu-gnome> squinty : here are results
[18:31] <ubuntu-gnome> http://pastebin.com/ZxPrbCNA
[18:32] <mightcould> mcphail, woot! thanks. now im going to try to restart and see if reisio's fix allows it to work on reboot. brb
[18:34] <squinty> ubuntu-gnome:  might want to search google with  "Ralink RT3290 Wireless" and "ubuntu" to see what turns up
[18:34] <MagicSpud> hello how do I create a desktop shortcut for a windows program using mono?
[18:34] <pinumbernumber> When will 14.10 be available for network release-upgrade from 14.04?
[18:35] <bobunkuth> anyone here understand what in dmesg?
[18:35] <mightcould> Failure yet again... just restarted. compiz again not working on startup. i'll probably again have to use the replace command like always. is there anyone that can fix this? this is enough to drive me back to windows cause atleast it works.
[18:35] <squinty> \o/
[18:36] <EriC^^> mightcould: what replacement command?
[18:36] <squinty> mightcould:  new install?  if yes, then probably faster to just reinstall rather than spending hours chasing some obscure buglet
[18:36] <rich_> no, compiz is broken. always fun to watch people torture themselves with it. bug city.
[18:36] <EriC^^> mightcould: i'd reinstall personally, if you want to fix it you could have it run when the pc boots
[18:37] <sydney> pinumbernumber: Should be within the next couple days, but i dont have a clue.
[18:37] <Kou_> hey folks, im having trouble with my RAID. im using the promise supertrack EX8350. some time ago i had a RAID 50 that went offline.it looked like 2 disks have gone bad.today i replaced these 2 disks and tryied to rebuild the RAID. Problem is that after replacing the 2 disks, the option to rebuild remained "Greyed out" after looking around. i found out that 3 disks are not assigned to the Logical drive and are "FREE" ( 2 disks i replaced and 1 tha
[18:37] <Kou_> t was part of the Logical drive before). i was carefull to not replace the wrong disks. problem is that with 3 disks offline the Promise software cant Rebuild the disk. i cant seem to be able to manually assign the 1 disk to the logical disk, so that i can begin rebuilding. im not too familiar with RAIDs. any help would be great. important data on there.
[18:37] <mightcould> and yup sure enough everything is checked off in compiz. just not working, and the compiz --replace command. i have to do that every startup to get wobbly windows again
[18:37] <usr13> bobunkuth: It is a lot of information, so pipe it to grep and use some keyword searches to find what you want.
[18:37] <spaztik> any idea how i find out why apt-get upgrade is holding back packages?
[18:37] <usr13> bobunkuth: Or pipe to less and /keyword-search
[18:38] <mightcould> squinty, i would reinstall (probably will have too) but its just it was already near impossible for me to get my second HDD to work on this. I'd really hate to have to go through all that hassle again :(
[18:38] <daftykins> spaztik: that's how it works, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:38] <squinty> spaztik:  tried doing a apt-get dist-upgrade  first?
[18:39] <spaztik> i had not, thanks
[18:39] <Kou_> anyone familiar with RAIDs?
[18:39] <spaztik> i changed PPAs, not sure why a dist-upgrade was necessary, but I'll look into it more
[18:39] <OerHeks> !isitout
[18:40] <squinty> OerHeks:  that's why /topic was changed 5 minutes ago. :P
[18:40] <mightcould> so i've been hearing about a new ubuntu coming out, is it possible that OS will be more stable and less likely to mess up so easily than 14.04?
[18:40] <spaztik> daftykins: squinty: is it possibly because I had some dependencies needed i had to do dist-upgrade?
[18:40] <squinty> ye
[18:40] <squinty> s
[18:40] <spaztik> i see
[18:41] <usr13> mightcould: The perfect OS is yet to be
[18:41] <bobunkuth> what am i searching for in dmesg that would be causing the system to reboot on cold startup
[18:41] <freijon> mightcould: is it only compiz which causes problems? maybe the Ubuntu Gnome is an alternative for you
[18:42] <usr13> bobunkuth: How long does it stay up?
[18:42] <mightcould> usr13, i doubt there will ever be a perfect one, i just want a OS that works as well as Win7, as customizable as Xfce and as free linux
[18:42] <EriC^^> mightcould: it's not ubuntu's fault, emerald or whatever isn't supported or maintained
[18:43] <bobunkuth> couple sec if that long and than reboots two more time before stableizing
[18:43] <usr13> mightcould: So use xfce
[18:43] <mightcould> freijon, well my only problem now is the fact that after restart the computer doesnt have my # of workspaces and i have to run a replace command every boot to get compiz working again. thats the only 2 issues i have now
[18:43] <bobunkuth> windows 7 boots up no prob
[18:43] <mightcould> usr13, i am using xfce
[18:43] <mightcould> EriC^^, i've uninstalled emerald so that shouldnt be a problem anymore
[18:44] <EriC^^> mightcould: well that is what caused the problem
[18:44] <bobunkuth> if i boot to windows 7 and than restart to ubuntu everything is fine
[18:44] <mightcould> bobunkuth, yes windows 7 i would say is as perfect as it gets, it works, no issues. no hassle. but i wanna learn linux so bad
[18:44] <bobunkuth> me to
[18:44] <mightcould> EriC^^, correct it did cause the problem, but i was told it was fixable.
[18:45] <squinty> bobunkuth:  dmesg | grep Warning   and/or  dmesg | grep Error    may or may not point to your problem(s)
[18:45] <bobunkuth> 14.04 worked fine for months but the last couple i have this hassel
[18:45] <mightcould> EriC^^, i uninstalled emerald. reinstalled compiz, when i run the replace command it works. i just dont wanna have to go through all those steps everytime i boot up
[18:45] <usr13> mightcould: I don't use compiz and all the eye-candy stuff.  I use xfce. I like a desktop environment that stays out of the way.
[18:46] <MagicSpud> I am trying to build a main menu shortcut for an exe file which needs mono...I used the same template a wine application uses...its a terminal application and it only flashes for a second and vanishes any idea?
[18:46] <EriC^^> mightcould: you can add the command to your startup apps
[18:46] <freijon> mightcould: so when you do a fresh boot, what exactly is the problem?
[18:46] <EriC^^> mightcould: go to unity, dash > startup, add the command
[18:46] <mightcould> freijon, 2 things, Step 1:) re-enable workspaces, Step 2:) Run compiz --replace   then all is well
[18:47] <squinty> MagicSpud:   there is a #winehq  channel on freenode irc network
[18:47] <mightcould> EriC^^, ok that'd be great if it did that, ill try
[18:47] <MagicSpud> squinty the point is it does not use wine but mono
[18:48] <mightcould> EriC^^, where is that file path i dont see it in home/mightcould
[18:48] <freijon> mightcould: re-enable how exactly? in the compiz settings manager?
[18:48] <Guest65374> love guest usernames
[18:48] <mightcould> freijon, no in the normal settings, every restart i have to go back there and set from 1 workspace to 6
[18:48] <pinumbernumber> oh hey, utopic shows up in update manager now
[18:50] <freijon> you can't add that part to the startup command unless you do it through gsettings
[18:50] <EriC^^> mightcould: open the dash
[18:50] <mightcould> i cant find startup at all
[18:50] <pinumbernumber> "You have to download a total of 1, 191 M. This download should take about 1 second with your connection". haha I wish
[18:50] <EriC^^> ( first icon in the launcher )
[18:50] <mightcould> Eric by dash do you mean start menu?
[18:50] <nyuszika7h> I disabled Secure Boot, Fast Boot and Fast Startup, and made my USB the first option in UEFI setup, yet I STILL have to go the roundabout way and boot my USB from UEFI setup :/
[18:51] <nyuszika7h> oh, the boot order changed itself back, seems legit
[18:51] <mightcould> EriC^^, im on xubuntu not unity
[18:51] <nyuszika7h> works now
[18:51] <EriC^^> mightcould: ok no problem
[18:52] <EriC^^> mightcould: open a terminal, go to cd ~/.config/autostart
[18:53] <EriC^^> mightcould: if you go to unity it will be way easier
[18:53] <mightcould> EriC^^, ok
[18:53] <mightcould> can i log out and jump into unity and this chat will still be there?
[18:53] <EriC^^> actually hold on
[18:53] <EriC^^> hold on
[18:53] <mightcould> EriC^^,  yes sir
[18:54] <mightcould> But yeah all i have to do is pretty simple, enable workspaces and run compiz --replace every startup and all is well. just would be nice if it saved workspaces idk why it doesnt, and if i could add that line to startup (though idk why i have to) all would be fixed
[18:55] <nyuszika7h> the keyboard shortcuts thing is a part of the background? o_O
[18:56] <mightcould> wobbly windows and desktop cube really is the best. i love it. for those 2 reasons alone i want my linux to replace my windows as my everyday os :D
[18:56] <Kou_> hey folks, im having trouble with my RAID. im using the promise supertrack EX8350. some time ago i had a RAID 50 that went offline.it looked like 2 disks have gone bad.today i replaced these 2 disks and tryied to rebuild the RAID. Problem is that after replacing the 2 disks, the option to rebuild remained "Greyed out" after looking around. i found out that 3 disks are not assigned to the Logical drive and are "FREE" ( 2 disks i replaced and 1 tha
[18:56] <Kou_> t was part of the Logical drive before). i was carefull to not replace the wrong disks. problem is that with 3 disks offline the Promise software cant Rebuild the disk. i cant seem to be able to manually assign the 1 disk to the logical disk, so that i can begin rebuilding. im not too familiar with RAIDs. any help would be great. important data on there.
[18:57] <freijon> you'll have it easier once you get past that stage in your life :P
[18:57] <EriC^^> mightcould: open a terminal and type gnome-session-properties
[18:57] <mightcould> EriC^^,  ok
[18:58] <usr13> mightcould: ppa's can cause problems, not always, but sometimes you run into problems with a ppa here and there.
[18:58] <mightcould> EriC^^,  ok got it
[18:58] <EriC^^> mightcould: add the command
[18:58] <mightcould> EriC^^,  (LightBulb)  hey eric, in the startup there's already a box for compiz and its uncheck? could that be it?
[18:59] <EriC^^> whats the command it runs? press edit
[18:59] <karamel4e> Hi, is there any reason why Ubuntu would stop to automount a USB flash drive after I delete everything from it?
[18:59] <mightcould> EriC^^,  o compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp
[19:00] <EriC^^> hrm
[19:00] <usr13> karamel4e: How did you delete ?
[19:00] <mightcould> EriC^^,  idk what that last part means? do you
[19:00] <EriC^^> i recall slightly you and reisio adding something involving .config
[19:00] <usr13> karamel4e: (Could be that it needs to be formatted.)
[19:00] <EriC^^> did you and reisio add anything to ~/.config/autostart ? ( a .desktop file )
[19:00] <karamel4e> usr13, well, with the DEL button in gui
[19:00] <mightcould> EriC^^, possibly it sounds familiar
[19:01] <usr13> karamel4e: Ok, that should not cause it to not mount.  Try un-plugging and plug into another USB port.
[19:01] <mightcould> but it seems that if i enable this box it mightcould do what we want it too?
[19:01] <EriC^^> mightcould: well, i don't know if that should be there, i don't have it in my startup apps
[19:01] <karamel4e> usr13, I tried, and also different usb ports
[19:01] <EriC^^> yeah, i don't know about the rest of the command though
[19:01] <usr13> karamel4e: Probably just need to reformat it.
[19:01] <mightcould> ok ill replace it with just compiz --replace and try that? since i have to run that anyway on start up
[19:02] <EriC^^> ok
[19:02] <usr13> karamel4e: Use vfat
[19:02] <karamel4e> usr13, thanks, I will try that
[19:03] <mightcould> EriC^^, ok done, now imm test it by restarting, brb and tysm
[19:03] <EriC^^> ok, np
[19:03] <firebird1> hello
[19:04] <Capprentice> hi
[19:04] <firebird1> how to open file starting with dash ?
[19:04] <EriC^^> escape it
[19:04] <firebird1> how?
[19:04] <EriC^^> or use --
[19:04] <firebird1> didnt work
[19:04] <firebird1> cat -- -file0
[19:04] <firebird1> cat -- ./-file0
[19:05] <EriC^^> cat -- -file0 should work
[19:05] <EriC^^> what's the error you're getting?
[19:05] <mightcould> EriC^^, ok failure, its ok the startup but it must not have ran cause wobbly windows is gone
[19:06] <EriC^^> mightcould: did you check it in the startup apps?
[19:06] <mightcould> EriC^^, yup
[19:06] <Badaboo> hmm when i Click on get Ubuntu 14.10 i come to "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS"
[19:06] <firebird1> cat: -file0: No such file or directory
[19:06] <EriC^^> firebird1: ok, that's a not found error not a syntax one
[19:07] <ganja> hello everyone i just update to ubuntu 14.10
[19:07] <Capprentice> use a "" !
[19:07] <EriC^^> mightcould: maybe try adding it to ~/.profile , type gedit ~/.profile and add it to the last line
[19:07] <mightcould> EriC^^, may i have the open startup command again please. i want to check that the settings saved. cause my settings dont like to save
[19:07] <EriC^^> mightcould: gnome-session-properties
[19:07]  * Benny_ stares is awe at ganja
[19:08] <firebird1> is there any way to search a group files for particular text ?
[19:08] <EriC^^> ganja: you are the chosen one
[19:08] <zerowaitstate> firebird1: grep
[19:08] <mightcould> EriC^^, ok i have .profile open and on a new line at the bottom i added compiz --replace
[19:08] <EriC^^> mightcould: ok, cool
[19:09] <TeodOR-BG> :)
[19:09] <mightcould> EriC^^, and yes it is checked in startup programs. but it didnt work, the .profile method, is that like a bruteforce/sure fire way to make sure it runs on startup?
[19:09] <Sbur> How can I print out page 3006 out of a 6957 page long document?
[19:09] <Sbur> Btw, it's a PDF file
[19:10] <EriC^^> mightcould: .profile is run when you login to a shell
[19:10] <Sbur> But ONLY page 3006
[19:10] <EriC^^> mightcould: it might not work
[19:10] <EriC^^> worth a shot though
[19:10] <zerowaitstate> Sbur: http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/options.html
[19:11] <EriC^^> mightcould: (when you login to your session is it run as well, not just when you login using a terminal )
[19:11] <mightcould> EriC^^,  ok ill try, startup programs didnt work so this has to :D
[19:11] <Sbur> One more complication to my question ... I have printed it a couple minutes ago, but it is so tiny print that it would take a microscope to read it
[19:11] <mightcould> EriC^^, testing now, brb
[19:11] <freijon> mightcould: are you on xfce or gnome?
[19:12] <mightcould> freijon, im on xubuntu 14.04 (assuming xfce)
[19:12] <EriC^^> mightcould: ok
[19:12] <Sbur> zerowaitstate: Thx, I'll look at that
[19:12] <mightcould> freijon, brb
[19:12] <usr13> Sbur: pdftk
[19:13] <zerowaitstate> Sbur: PDF typically is very strict about scaling; it doesn't reflow like HTML--it's more similar to postscript
[19:14] <zerowaitstate> Sbur: you can scale it to a different page size
[19:14] <usr13> Sbur: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-extract-pages-pdf
[19:14] <Sbur> usr13: That's the name of a program to seek after?
[19:15] <usr13> Sbur: You probably need to extract the page so that you can deal with it individually.  Then you can use gimp to crop and re-create the PDF image.
[19:16] <usr13> !pdftk | Sbur
[19:16] <usr13> Sbur: Try  apt-cache search pdftk
[19:18] <kosmas> Hey guys.. have had issues with VGA1 as soon as you have updated to the new Kernel 3.13.0-37
[19:18] <kosmas> ?
[19:18] <usr13> Sbur: Or just apt-get install pdftk
[19:18] <Sbur> usr13: I'm downloading it now
[19:19] <pinumbernumber> I'm currently upgrading 14.04->14.10 and I want to keep the packages it's downloading so I can upgrade another system. Where is it saving them? /var/cache/apt/archives?
[19:21] <Sbur> usr13: That will be able to extract/ isolate the page for me?
[19:21] <usr13> Sbur: Yes
[19:21] <ZeXx86> Hi, Ubuntu 14.10 does not work in virtualbox for me, 14.04 worked - there is very corrupted screen after 1 seconds of seeing desktop
[19:21] <squinty> pinumbernumber:  look at the dates on the deb's in that folder/directory to see
[19:22] <Mightcould2> Well now i have a seriously problem, that little tiny line you had me add... now i cannot boot into linux whatsoever. and with windows i am unable to edit anything on those drives.
[19:22] <Sbur> usr13: I have installed it.  I am in command line and typed pdftk.  It gives me a list of options, but I don't see something to do what I need
[19:22] <nyuszika7h> should I create a separate /boot partition or is it useless?
[19:22] <usr13> Sbur: You can use burst to split it into individual files, (each page will be a single file).  But there are many things you can do.
[19:22] <Mightcould2> I boots to a blank, black screen with a mouse cursor and just sits there.
[19:23] <Sbur> usr13: Is there a command to isolate page 3006 from the rest so I can gimp it, for example?
[19:23] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: ctrl+alt+f1
[19:23] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: does that take you to tty1?
[19:24] <Mightcould2> in the black screen?
[19:24] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:24] <Mightcould2> ok ill try that brb
[19:24] <EriC^^> hold on
[19:24] <Mightcould2> ok
[19:24] <EriC^^> if it does
[19:25] <EriC^^> login and type nano ~/.profile
[19:25] <pinumbernumber> squinty: only a couple files in the "partial" subdir are updating. It must be moving them some other place when it's done
[19:25] <EriC^^> remove the line, press ctrl+o to save, ctrl+x to exit
[19:25] <Sbur> usr13: Libreoffice doesn't do it.  Document viewer neither.I could care less about all the other pages in the document.  The only page I need to see, recover and print is page #3006
[19:25] <usr13> Sbur: see: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tech-tip-extract-pages-pdf
[19:25] <Mightcould2> ok ill try that brb, hope it boots
[19:25] <EriC^^> then type sudo service lightdm restart , to restart lightdm ( the desktop manager )
[19:26] <Tx0> hello everyone, mysql autocompletion isn't working, I had tried mysql --auto-rehash or \# in mysql prompt but no result. Any idea?
[19:26] <Tx0> i'm using ubuntu 14.04
[19:28] <PLoctaux> What's up guys with Utopic?
[19:29] <awesomess3> So....wine 1.7.28 cries when certain winbind libraries aren't found. Yet when I install winbind it wants to install samba server, which leaves a port open. Even when I try to install with --no-install-recommends :(
[19:29] <Mightcould2> well nope, its now offically screwed up. cntrl+alt+F1 didnt do anything. im going to have to reinstall it. (sadface) i should have been just happy with having two post startup steps.
[19:29] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: this happens after you login right?
[19:29] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: hold on
[19:29] <Shapeshifter> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 14.04 on a laptop that has windows 8 on it. During the partition setup, I deleted some OEM partitions and made a 5mb "bios partition" and one for / and /home. Everything went through, but upon rebooting, windows 8 just booted. No grub. What do I do?
[19:29] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: that doesn't make much sense
[19:29] <PLoctaux> Mightcould2, Good luck!
[19:30] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: does it happen after you login?
[19:30] <Mightcould2> eric, no it doesnt boot at all. i cannot login whatsoever. from GRUB i select ubuntu then everything goes black with a mouse cursor, i did cntrl+alt+f1 and everything just went black
[19:30] <ubukou> hey folks, im having trouble with my RAID. im using the promise supertrack EX8350. some time ago i had a RAID 50 that went offline.it looked like 2 disks have gone bad.today i replaced these 2 disks and tryied to rebuild the RAID. Problem is that after replacing the 2 disks, the option to rebuild remained "Greyed out" after looking around. i found out that 3 disks are not assigned to the Logical drive and are "FREE" ( 2 disks i replaced + 1
[19:30] <ubukou> that was part of the Logical drive before). i was carefull to not replace the wrong disks. problem is that with 3 disks offline the Promise software cant Rebuild the disk. i cant seem to be able to manually assign the 1 disk to the logical disk, so that i can begin rebuilding. im not too familiar with RAIDs. any help would be great. important data on there.
[19:30] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: well that has nothing whatsoever to do with the line we added, as it gets run after you login with your username in lightdm
[19:31] <awesomess3> Shapeshifter, just curious, were the names of those OEM partitions "WINRETOOLS", "DIAGS", "PBR IMAGE", and "OS"? Because that's what I have with what Dell came with on my Insipiron 15 Laptop that I bought last year.
[19:31] <gorbyebrius> Mightcould2, did you change the nvidia drivers or something?
[19:31] <Shapeshifter> awesomess3: no it's an ASUS
[19:31] <Mightcould2> Eric.. ok then why now will it not boot but it didnt have any problems before hand? something got messed up
[19:32] <Mightcould2> gorbyebrius, no, and my whole mess of issues what cause my emerald just to let ya know. Now im gonna have to reinstall linux :(
[19:32] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: yeah, something sure did, but ~/.profile has nothing to do with it
[19:32] <Mightcould2> was* by*
[19:32] <awesomess3> Shapeshifter, my best guess is to try going into BIOS and changing the boot from IEUV (whatever) to Legacy
[19:32] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: it sounds like a driver problem or so
[19:33] <gorbyebrius> Mightcould2, regardless of what you do with lightdm.conf, alt+control+F1 should work :) And no, emerald messing up the whole system is extremly unlikely, the absolute worst is that you end up without window borders, and you can always go back to unity.
[19:33] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: you could try to boot with nomodeset
[19:33] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: or use a recovery prompt to see what errors show up in the logs
[19:33] <Mightcould2> That's fine. im just gonna have to reinstall is all. Atleast i still have windows. good'ol working windows :D
[19:33] <EriC^^> Mightcould2: as i said earlier i'd just reinstall if it's a fresh install
[19:34] <Mightcould2> yeah its only a 3 day old install. it'll be my best bet to wipe clean all the crap emerald caused
[19:34] <bobunkuth> i'm back and this is what grep warning reported  ACPI Warning: 0x00000828-0x0000082f SystemIO conflicts with Region \GIC3 1 (20131115/utaddress-251)
[19:35] <ni291187> PPP
[19:35] <ni291187> oops
[19:36] <Mightcould2> oh no! im at ubuntu website, how do i get the 14.04 version? they have 14.10 on it?
[19:36] <bobunkuth> i'm back and this is what grep warning reported  ACPI Warning: 0x00000828-0x0000082f SystemIO conflicts with Region \GIC3 1 (20131115/utaddress-251)
[19:36] <Shapeshifter> awesomess3: good idea
[19:36] <EriC^^> Mightcould2:  releases.ubuntu.com/trusty
[19:37] <usr13> Mightcould2: Click the Get Ubuntu button
[19:38] <jimi_hendrix> hi, i cant seem to probe my battery via cli. there is only an AC entry in /sys/class/power_supply
[19:38] <jimi_hendrix> i know there is a way to do it, as the default battery widget works
[19:39] <Mightcould2> there is no 14.04 intel x64 on that site listing
[19:39] <EriC^^> jimi_hendrix: upower
[19:40] <guntbert> Mightcould2: see http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop   there is is very prominent at the top :)
[19:40] <PLoctaux> Mightcould2, Just a sec... finding that for you...
[19:40] <Mightcould2> guntbert 404 page not found, i'll probably just drive to work today and pick up my install disc there
[19:40] <bobunkuth>  this is what grep warning reported  ACPI Warning: 0x00000828-0x0000082f SystemIO conflicts with Region \GIC3 1 (20131115/utaddress-251) on booting from cold boot and ubuntu restarts three times be for coming up
[19:41] <guntbert> Mightcould2: AND 64bit doesn't come in a intel and a AMD flavour
[19:41] <PLoctaux> Mightcould2, http://releases.ubuntu.com/ This might be helpful
[19:42] <jimi_hendrix> EriC^^, only lists the ac entry
[19:42] <Mightcould2> guntbert, well i know i had a working 64 bit linux on here before cause it read all my 16gb ram
[19:42] <EriC^^> jimi_hendrix: upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
[19:42] <guntbert> Mightcould2: of course, I just said there is no special intel version
[19:43] <Lucax> hello, I install packages and I am not able to find them with nautilus afterwards? how come?
[19:43] <Mightcould2> bbl guys, thanks
[19:43] <Pici> Mightcould2: You'd be looking for the ubuntu-14.04.1-*-amd64.* files
[19:43] <Lucax> I installed 7zip and can not find it after
[19:44] <squinty> Mightcould2:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop  loads fine here and will link to 64bit 14.04.1 download
[19:44] <Max__C4> I have a Acer laptop 5920G on Ubuntu 9.10 and the videocard is not supported but it work. Any update or any other distribution doesn't boot. Black screen. Help a newbie?
[19:44] <bobunkuth> can some point me to a site that will tell me what this means  ACPI Warning: 0x00000828-0x0000082f SystemIO conflicts with Region \GIC3 1 (20131115/utaddress-251)
[19:45] <Pici> Lucax: Where are you looking exactly?
[19:45] <jimi_hendrix> EriC^^, does not exist
[19:45] <Pici> Lucax: Are you trying to find a gui program?
[19:45] <Lucax> I click the buttonbutton of all buttons with the ubuntu sign top left
[19:46] <Lucax> there I type the programs I need and I can not find them
[19:46] <gorbyebrius> Lucax, you probably installed p7zip which is used with other interfaces.
[19:47] <jhutchins_wk> Lucax: I believe 7zip is a console application.  No gui/menu, but gui programs like file managers or Ark might now be aware of it and know how to open 7zip files.
[19:47] <squinty> Lucax:  maybe try Archive Manager
[19:47] <gorbyebrius> I am not sure what unity uses, but i think it's file-roller, in that case, it now means that your already installed archive application, file-roller, now has 7z support! try just double clicking your 7z archive
[19:48] <Lucax> I want to create a zip file, can the filemanager do that?
[19:48] <Lucax> or the archive manager perhaps
[19:48] <gorbyebrius> Lucax, you don't need 7z for that.
[19:48] <gorbyebrius> Lucax, just use the archive manager, look around abit IN archive manager and I'm sure you'll figure it out
[19:49] <skyfall> hey, heard 14.10 is out. does anyone suggest an upgrade or a clean new installation from 14.04 ?
[19:49] <squinty> Lucax:  the Archive Manager (file-roller) should already be installed on your system.  just open it and try it
[19:49] <Lucax> ok, thanks.
[19:49] <Ben64> skyfall: i'd recommend staying on 14.04 unless you really need something from 14.10
[19:49] <skyfall> 14.10 is stable right ?
[19:49] <squinty> heh
[19:49] <Ben64> skyfall: "stable" sure
[19:49] <aNiHilist> skyfall: it's stable as of today
[19:50] <squinty> guess we will see.... :P
[19:50] <nullbyte_> how to upgrade it
[19:50] <skyfall> any changes?
[19:50] <nullbyte_> aptitude full-upgrade?
[19:50] <aNiHilist> I hope to god it's stable, I'm upgrading right now
[19:50] <k1l> skyfall: upgrades  work and are automatic tested. so if its near the original repos they work
[19:50] <k1l> nullbyte_: no
[19:50] <Lucax> good night
[19:50] <k1l> nullbyte_: do-release-upgrade
[19:50] <nullbyte_> k1l: 14.10
[19:50] <squinty> nullbyte_:  open Software Updates
[19:50] <Max_C4> someone to help me?
[19:50] <aNiHilist> nullbyte_: sudo update-manager -d
[19:51] <k1l> nullbyte_: sentence?
[19:51] <k1l> aNiHilist: no!
[19:51] <k1l> aNiHilist: dont suggest things you dont have a clue of
[19:51] <nullbyte_> k1l ok
[19:51] <skyfall> ok
[19:51] <Ben64> skyfall: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+specs
[19:51] <k1l> nullbyte_: you want to upgrade to 14.10 from 14.04?
[19:52] <nullbyte_> k1l yes
[19:52] <Ben64> not a whole lot new stuff, really
[19:52] <aNiHilist> k1l: sorry, didn't mean to be a rebel
[19:52] <Ben64> i'd stick with 14.04 for the LTS
[19:52] <k1l> nullbyte_: make sure the release-prompt is set to normal and not lts. then run sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:52] <skyfall> hey, when i use the update manager , its not showing any available upgrade
[19:52] <nullbyte_> aham... ok
[19:52] <flottin> hi there
[19:52] <moduIus> join ##marxism bitches
[19:53] <k1l> aNiHilist: dont tell users to use the -d developer switch when its not needed at all. this will lead to people use it all the time and will result in unstable systems
[19:53] <skyfall> terminal command. .anybody >
[19:53] <skyfall> ?
[19:53] <squinty> skyfall:  you have to changed from "lts" to normal  as k1l  suggests
[19:53] <k1l> skyfall: set release-prompt to normal (in system settings for updates)
[19:53] <usr13> skyfall: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:54] <squinty> usr13:  nah
[19:54] <ianorlin> remember if you upgrade now you will only have 9 months of support instead of four and half years
[19:54] <usr13> squinty: Oh, he is wanting distribution upgrade
[19:54] <skyfall> hey im in system setting. how to change to normal ?
[19:54] <skyfall> kil ?
[19:55] <squinty> skyfall:  you can do it all from Software Updates gui.. no need for terminal command lines
[19:55] <k1l> skyfall: go to updates thingy, then 3rd  tab
[19:55] <skyfall> how to set release-prompt to normal ?
[19:55] <squinty> skyfall:  Software Updates  not system settings
[19:55] <aNiHilist> skyfall: if you're in software and updates, in the updates tab swith the bottom menu (Notify me of a new Ubuntu version) to "For any new version
[19:56] <k1l> skyfall: come on: system settings, software and updates, 3rd tab, last row
[19:56] <skyfall> ok tanx
[19:57] <skyfall> k1l
[19:57] <skyfall> :)
[19:57] <usr13> skyfall: For CLI solution, edit last line of /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (change lts to normal)
[19:57] <helterscelter> is there anyway to specify the --usergroup parameter for an Openconnect vpn configuration via the networkmanager in ubuntu 14.04 (gnome-shell) ?
[19:57] <usr13> skyfall: Then:  sudo apt-get update
[19:57] <arnas> hey
[19:58] <arnas> when I type `sudo pwmconfig` I get this: "/usb/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed". Anyone?
[19:58] <squinty> usr13:  there is no need to use command line. just use the software updater.
[19:59] <Max_C4> Need help with my Acer laptop 5920G. Only work with ubuntu 9.10
[19:59] <usr13> Max_C4: What seems to be the problem?
[19:59] <Sbur> usr13: I have an improvement on page 3006, but I can't seem to improve the size of the text. Could I stretch it over two or three pages, now that it is isolated as a seperate document?
[20:00] <usr13> Sbur: Open it with gimp and crop, then Ctrl-Shift-e  and export to PDF
[20:00] <Sbur> usr13: On the screen, I see it a correct size, but once I try to print it ...
[20:00] <arnas> when I type `sudo pwmconfig` I get this: "/usb/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed". Anyone?
[20:00] <squinty> arnas:  not sure but  lm-sensors   maybe?
[20:01] <Max_C4> usr13, it's the only version and distribution that work. Any other: black screen. And even if 9.10 work, videocard not working, all on cpu
[20:01] <usr13> Sbur: But if there is too much text on the page, there's not much you can do.
[20:01] <arnas> squinty, I have it and already ran it once
[20:01] <usr13> !nomodeset | Max_C4
[20:01] <Sbur> usr13: So scribus can't help?
[20:02] <Max_C4> ubottu, thx
[20:02] <usr13> Sbur: Possibly.  Try it and see.
[20:02] <usr13> Sbur: But if you have too much on one page, I don't see that there is much you can do.
[20:03] <squinty> arnas:  googling that error message returns a number of hits... maybe try searching a bit
[20:04] <pinumbernumber> so my release upgrade ending up removing xserver-xorg-graphics-{ati,radeon}
[20:04] <usr13> Sbur: See my PM
[20:04] <pinumbernumber> really doesn't seem like it should've done that
[20:05] <roue> hola
[20:06] <roue> I've got an *old* 10.04.4 install on a system with a bunch of USB drives connected to it.
[20:06] <roue> I'd like to configure it so that whenever a given usb drive is attached it gets automatically mounted to a specific location.
[20:06] <usr13> roue: Server or Desktop?
[20:06] <Max_C4> usr13, said I install 14.10 and have a blackscreen, what is the way
[20:07] <roue> I understand that I should be using the UUID rather than the /dev/sd* but I'm not sure how to get the automounting to happen. This is a server.
[20:07] <aNiHilist> roue: that could be configured through fstab
[20:07] <roue> I've read about writing udev rules, but maybe there's a simpler way?
[20:07] <usr13> Max_C4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[20:07] <roue> These drives may not be attached at boot.
[20:07] <Max_C4> usr13, thx
[20:07] <roue> And the users aren't savvy enough to command line execute a mount UUID=lkasdlkjasd command.
[20:08] <phut> for some reason the reaktek wifi chip on this netbook goes incredibly slow under ubuntu but not in windows
[20:08] <roue> I've looked at fstab but I'm not sure how to set it up to mount only when the drive is plugged in (vs. at boot time).
[20:08] <phut> Realtek RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8188ee
[20:08] <roue> I thought fstab was only evaluated at boot or at a mount -a invocation.
[20:08] <usr13> !realtek | phut
[20:09] <phut> thanks ubottu
[20:09] <aNiHilist> roue: I think you're right about fstab
[20:10] <phut> of course they don't have one for my specific chip
[20:11] <Sbur> usr13: Good luck in PM
[20:12] <usr13> Sbur: Just a minute
[20:12] <phut> yeah that
[20:12] <phut> s
[20:12] <phut>  ancient
[20:12] <l0rdn1x> have they fixed the .goutputstream-XXXX in the home folder yet?
[20:12] <Sbur> usr13: No problem
[20:12] <phut> I need to grab some usb wifi adapters too but it would be nice if the onboard worked
[20:13] <spaztik> i have a 54g wifi dongle i need to sell
[20:14] <spaztik> !isitout
[20:14] <spaztik> w00t
[20:14] <spaztik> nice, and it's downloading FAST
[20:15] <spaztik> 8MB/s
[20:15] <daftykins> !ot | spaztik
[20:15] <phut> the thing is it works better in windows
[20:15] <morpheusx_nl> can someone help me with wifi
[20:16] <phut> is that some sort of realtek/microsoft conspiracy?
[20:16] <morpheusx_nl> because my usb wifi did not work properly i configured it with ndiswrapper
[20:16] <morpheusx_nl> how can i tel  if it is using it
[20:16] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: I have a usb wifi dongle in my desktop, but it works
[20:16] <usr13> Sbur: Ok. I see your problem.  That file would need to be 10 or 12 pages in order to be readable.
[20:16] <mjayk> phut: thats why i always make sure my hardware works under linux before i get it
[20:17] <Sbur> usr13: Can you make it so?
[20:17] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, mine goes from 72 mbps to 7
[20:17] <usr13> Sbur: Who ever created the file messed up some how.
[20:17] <usr13> Sbur: Yes
[20:17] <Sbur> usr13: Are youok to do that now?
[20:17] <aNiHilist> roue: I know of mounting usb devices to a different folder, but as far as a different home for every one, I'm lost. I think you're gonna be stuck with udev as far as that goes.
[20:18] <phut> yeah everything worked great in the store but there wasn't a good wifi to test
[20:18] <phut> maybe there's a newer kernel with an updated driver
[20:19] <Sbur> usr13: I asked for the receipt for my purchase and was given the entire day's list of purchases for the entire store
[20:19] <Sbur> usr13: That's why it is so weird
[20:21] <Sbur> usr13: If I can get it in a format that scribus can open easily, I can then do columns, I imagine (4 columns, still readable) and just need to print 3 pages of this
[20:22] <morpheusx_nl> anyone able to help me it is a rtl8192cu chipset
[20:23] <kristenbb> hello, wanted to add myself to new group with usermod -G but forgot -a. How to go back ?
[20:24] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters
[20:25] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: Does that help?  Do you find your model in the listing?
[20:26] <Pici> 70
[20:26] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, yes it is mentioned
[20:26] <spaztik> kristenbb: no way to go back, just add new groups
[20:26] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: That should be a first indication.  Does it say that it works?
[20:27] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, it says should work out of the box. and it does but my speeds go back to 7 mb after some minutes
[20:27] <kristenbb> spaztik: back to default at least then, i'm the only user.
[20:27] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: Can it be your ISP?
[20:28] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: Have you tested your line?  Like a speedtest?
[20:28] <morpheusx_nl> sbur, nope all other machines are working just fine steady at 54 or 150 mbps
[20:28] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: Same wifi dongle?
[20:28] <squinty> morpheusx_nl:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/471208/realtek-wireless-adapter-issues-rtl8192ce-and-rtl8192cu   might be worth a read/try  (or google for similar with your wifi model/chipset)
[20:28] <mjayk> morpheusx_nl: if it works at first have you checked to make sure its not a power saving feature ?
[20:28] <morpheusx_nl> mjayk, how do i check that
[20:29] <mjayk> morpheusx_nl: dont know try google
[20:29] <mjayk> sounds like a that though if it works fine then stops
[20:29] <morpheusx_nl> mjayk, will do
[20:29] <morpheusx_nl> squinty, reading the topix now
[20:30] <kristenbb> what can I do to add myself back to the default groups ?
[20:31] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: What I wouldn't do to have 54 or 150 Mbps
[20:32] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, my isp sends in constant 200mbps
[20:32] <mjayk> dam I hate the NL
[20:32] <morpheusx_nl> mjayk, why?
[20:32] <mjayk> morpheusx_nl: 200 mbps im jelly
[20:32] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: You are in the Netherlands, I suppose.  I'm in the french part of Belgium
[20:32] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, correct nl
[20:33] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: I've got 55 if I connect by cable, but, at best with wifi, I'm at 30+/-
[20:33] <morpheusx_nl> squinty, is it save to do what the article says with those extra kernel stuff
[20:33] <mjayk> 2
[20:34] <usr13> Sbur: 7 pages
[20:34] <Sbur> usr13: I'm fine with that
[20:34] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, if i had 20 mbps but stable on this card i would be happy
[20:34] <usr13> Sbur: ok
[20:35] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, the link squinty gave me do you think the bottom solution is save to try
[20:36] <kristenbb> i removed myself from the default groups by mistake, how to go back ?
[20:36] <IPhoton> Hello, i finally burned an ubuntu dvd with the iso. I am ready to install but I am having problems understanding the portioning part found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot. The way I understand it, I should select "Manual Partitioning", But what I don't understand is steps 6, 7, 8.
[20:36] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: Haven't a clue
[20:37] <IPhoton> Does it mean on step 6 that I have to create one big partition of say, 40GB? Then I have to create a seperate one of 16GB for my RAM
[20:37] <Sbur> usr13: And I thought I was good in computer stuff
[20:37] <usr13> IPhoton: Did you set aside free-space for the Linux install?
[20:37] <usr13> Sbur: Want to know the process?
[20:37] <IPhoton> not yet, user1111, it says on the page it does it during install
[20:38] <mjayk> IPhoton: it makes the partition but you have to have the space first
[20:38] <IPhoton> I have windows on C drive now
[20:38] <Sbur> usr13: Yes, please
[20:39] <spaztik> ugh, if youv'e been running windows for a while you have to move files and shrink the partition
[20:39] <Sbur> usr13: And can I get page numbers on the seperate pages?
[20:39] <spaztik> first you need to defrag, then shrink using gparted
[20:39] <spaztik> and cross your fingers you don't lose your data
[20:39] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, i will try it see what happens
[20:39] <mjayk> spaztik: better shrinking inside windows
[20:39] <IPhoton> Is it likely that I can lose my data?
[20:39] <Lucax> archive manager takes ages to zip down 8 gig, is that normal?
[20:40] <Lucax> 1 hour now
[20:40] <IPhoton> I think rar5 is best for that
[20:40] <spaztik> mjayk: ah yeah, that's true... windows 7+ has great disk tools for that
[20:40] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: I don't know much, but I am willing to look for what seems a good solution ... and I like asking questions to find the direction that the person can follow
[20:40] <jhutchins_wk> mjayk: Pre-W8 gparted is just as good if not better, but it won't do W8 yet.
[20:40] <kristenbb> i removed myself from the default groups by mistake, how to go back ?
[20:41] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, http://askubuntu.com/questions/471208/realtek-wireless-adapter-issues-rtl8192ce-and-rtl8192cu it seems to describe what i am facing
[20:41] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, mine is the rtl8192cu
[20:41] <jhutchins_wk> IPhoton: Any time you're messing with the partitions there's a chance you could loose data - even if it's just human error.
[20:42] <jhutchins_wk> IPhoton: Yes, one partition + swap is a good plan.
[20:42] <IPhoton> Well that sure is annoying
[20:42] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: I won't tell you that I know what to do ... I don't.  But I can google and give the answers I find
[20:42] <IPhoton> so jhattara, in the end on my hard drive, I will have 3 partitions? One for Windows, one for Ubuntu and one for Swap?
[20:42] <jhutchins_wk> IPhoton: Swap depends on whether you need suspend-to-disk.  If so, you need at least 1x RAM, otherwise I recommend 2x ram up to about 4G, then stop at 4G.
[20:42] <Lucax> I tried a couple different ways to zip now and it seems like it is not quite happening the way I expected. I downloaded 7zip but I cant find it anywhere, that is so strange. so then I tried the archive manager but the file (8g) takes hours to zip down, I am not familiar with the time for zipping down, maybe it does take hours to zip down 8 g
[20:43] <kristenbb> How can I add myself back to the default groups ?
[20:43] <jhutchins_wk> IPhoton: That's correct.
[20:43] <furkan> does anybody know when it will be possible to install the utopic HWE on 14.04?
[20:43] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, so far so good, i probably need to reboot in a minute
[20:44] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: Have fun
[20:44] <jhutchins_wk> IPhoton: 40G should be plenty for a good install plus some extras, videos, etc., plus you can access generic files on the Windows partition, so you can use that for storage too.
[20:44] <k1l> furkan: iirc, when the next pointrelease will come to 14.04
[20:45] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, be right back
[20:45] <Sbur> morpheusx_nl: How do you get 200Mbps and how much would it cost and why doesn't Belgium (french side at least) have that
[20:45] <jhutchins_wk> Lucax: 8g might take a while.  A lot of people use tar with gzip - it's a good compromise between compression and processor time.  tar -czvf <targetfile> <path/to/compress>
[20:45] <morpheusx_nl> Sbur, 200mbps costs 80 euro a month
[20:45] <IPhoton> yes, jhattara, but is that 40GB for Ubuntu + 16GB swap ? Or just 40GB for everything?
[20:45] <mjayk> woukd pay
[20:46] <Lucax> jhut, can tar be opened in a mac?
[20:46] <ki7mt> kristenbb, the basic command is:  sudo adduser $USER <group_name>  I believe, a new user, even a sudo user, is only in 3 or 4 groups to begin with.
[20:46] <furkan> k1l: i just found this as you said that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DraftReleaseSchedule so 14.04.2 is scheduled for Feb. 5th.. damn.. i wonder if there is a beta PPA or something, i'd really like to have the new Xorg
[20:46] <jhutchins_wk> IPhoton: You can have a swap file within the 40G (obviously you'd hvae more like 24G for data).
[20:46] <metallic> IPhoton, 16GB for swap? that is too much
[20:46] <IPhoton> I have 16GB of RAM
[20:46] <jhutchins_wk> IPhoton: I'd go with 4G swap myself, 16G is a lot to manage.  Unless you need suspend.
[20:47] <IPhoton> site says to use the ram size as swap
[20:47] <IPhoton> okay will do 4GB then
[20:47] <IPhoton> God, I hope mine stuff doesn't crash
[20:47] <kristenbb> ki7mt: but what are the default groups ? and how can I add myself back to the sudo group ?
[20:48] <metallic> IPhoton, the swap partition is used as a fake ram, it is used as virtual memory in case the system needs it, but 16GB of ram by default is already good
[20:48] <ki7mt> IPhoton, if you hitting swap and you have 16GB if ram available, something is shew up allot of memory.
[20:48] <Lucax> I zippped the file down but it is still 8 gig
[20:48] <ki7mt> .. chewing up ..
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> kristenbb: You could add a new user and see what groups they're in.  It depends on your system and what you have installed.
[20:48] <Sbur> usr13: Thanks for your help.  I now need to walk the dog so I don't get put my the Mrs in the dog house ... ;)
[20:49] <ki7mt> kristenbb, well, that's sorts like pardora's box isn't it ... as you need Sudo to add a user to sudo .. how did you manage to remove yourself from the sudo group?
[20:49] <Sbur> *by the Mrs
[20:49] <kristenbb> ki7mt: i just forgot the -a in usermod -a G newgroup myself
[20:50] <kristenbb> jhutchins_wk: ok, how to do that ?
[20:50] <Arr0way> anyone running ubuntu on a mbp late 2011?
[20:50] <Arr0way> or similar
[20:50] <jhutchins_wk> kristenbb: You can use either sudo or admin for sudo permissions.
[20:50] <jhutchins_wk> kristenbb: Yeah, I hate forgetting -a.
[20:50] <kristenbb> jhutchins_wk: what do you mean ?
[20:50] <jhutchins_wk> kristenbb: Either group works.
[20:50] <kristenbb> jhutchins_wk: but how to add it ?!
[20:51] <Lucax> wel wel, good night
[20:51] <ki7mt> kristenbb, that's why I use adduser v.s usermod when playing with groups, .. I've made that mistake more times that I care to count.
[20:52] <kristenbb> ki7mt: but so what do I do ?
[20:53] <yeaaa> cana anyone help? on ubuntu wireless n card only getting 30mbps on speed test, line can peak at 100mbps on wired
[20:53] <yeaaa> other windows wireless device on N also hit 70mbps
[20:53] <kristenbb> jhutchins_wk: i'm sorry but i didn't understand what you offered to get out of this ?
[20:54] <usr13> yeaaa: what does iwconfig say, (pastebinit not here).
[20:54] <usr13> yeaaa: ?
[20:54] <yeaaa> no idea what that is, sry
[20:54] <yeaaa> im literally 1st day linux guy
[20:54] <usr13> !iwconfig | yeaaa
[20:54] <yeaaa> ?
[20:55] <Ben64> yeaaa: open terminal, type "iwconfig" and pastebin the result
[20:55] <usr13> yeaaa: iwconfig | pastebinit
[20:55] <Ben64> yeaaa: also, wireless is normally slow compared to wired connections
[20:55] <ki7mt> kristenbb, This may not be the best solution, but it should get your sudo account back: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:55] <yeaaa> yeah, but connection is 70mbps?
[20:56] <yeaaa> 30mbps on a 100mbps line slow
[20:56] <usr13> yeaaa: Is your wifi chip 2.4GHz?
[20:56] <Ben64> yeah, wireless isn't for speed, it is for convenience
[20:56] <spaztik> yeaaa: 2.4ghz G is theoretically maxed out at 52mbit
[20:56] <usr13> Ben64: True
[20:56] <yeaaa> im on wireless N
[20:57] <spaztik> so as asked, 2.4ghz, or 5?
[20:57] <yeaaa> other wireless n device on windows hits 70mbps easy
[20:57] <yeaaa> i paste bin one sec
[20:57] <Guest41002> yay Ubuntu 14.10 is Released !!!
[20:57] <usr13> spaztik: Actually, you don't get anywhere near 52
[20:57] <spaztik> usr13: that's why i said theoretical
[20:57] <usr13> spaztik: Agreed
[20:57] <Ben64> yeaaa: you can't compare different devices like that
[20:57] <yeaaa> www.pastebin.com/rTjhzVLk
[20:57] <spaztik> i get about 35ish
[20:58] <spaztik> Frequency:2.462 GHz
[20:58] <yeaaa> see paste bin? bit rate 72?
[20:58] <spaztik> yeaaa: ^^^^
[20:58] <spaztik> connect on the 5ghz band
[20:58] <yeaaa> so thats the problem?
[20:58] <Ben64> problem is probably signal strength
[20:58] <yeaaa> how the hell do i force it through ubuntu?
[20:58] <yeaaa> no its full bars
[20:58] <yeaaa> even in router room 30mbps
[20:58] <Ben64> oh well, use wired then
[20:59] <yeaaa> one sec, i will try and force N only through router
[20:59] <spaztik> yes but 2.4ghz has limitations that 5ghz doesn't
[20:59] <Ben64> n is 2.4 and 5ghz, forcing n won't do a thing
[20:59] <spaztik> http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/24246/~/should-i-use-the-2.4-ghz-or-5-ghz-wireless-band%3F
[20:59] <yeaaa> yeah but why the hell is it being detected at 70mbps?
[20:59] <usr13> yeaaa: Looks ok. Not sure why you don't get fast speed.
[20:59] <usr13> yeaaa: Link Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm
[20:59] <spaztik> cuz of interference
[20:59] <yeaaa> so its channel?
[20:59] <spaztik> practically everything runs on 2.4ghz
[21:00] <usr13> yeaaa: What are you actually getting?
[21:00] <spaztik> yes
[21:00] <yeaaa> usr13, i get around 30mbps
[21:00] <spaztik> that's great for 2.4ghz
[21:00] <Ben64> 30mbit is fine for wireless, just be happy
[21:00] <yeaaa> why should i be happy with 30?
[21:00] <yeaaa> my other wireless device hits 70 lol
[21:00] <Ben64> because its better than <30
[21:00] <yeaaa> in windows
[21:00] <Ben64> ok well thats another device
[21:00] <Ben64> you cannot compare like that
[21:00] <yeaaa> not really what i want to hear to convert this laptop over
[21:01] <usr13> yeaaa: How are you testing speed?
[21:01] <yeaaa> speed test websites
[21:01] <spaztik> a) if it's different hardware that's not valid, b) if the same, verify the configs are the same such as the channels, frequency, etc
[21:01] <yeaaa> wireless N
[21:01] <yeaaa> 450mbit
[21:01] <yeaaa> no reason why i cant hit around 70
[21:02] <yeaaa> when i disable 2.4ghz to force 5ghz wireless router dissapears in ubuntu
[21:02] <spaztik> did you see the link i posted giving a laymen description?
[21:02] <spaztik> then your card doesn't support 5ghz
[21:02] <spaztik> it must be an early N card
[21:02] <marc__> sbur, same is happening after this
[21:03] <spaztik> yeaaa: this is exactly why 5ghz was created, for speed
[21:03] <spaztik> more frequency range, the higher bandwidth you can fit in the pipeline
[21:03] <yeaaa> doesnt make sense... bit rate detected at 70mb
[21:04] <yeaaa> says it right in pastebin
[21:04] <Ben64> that is the link speed
[21:04] <Ben64> not the throughput
[21:04] <spaztik> that's just what the router is saying the link speed is
[21:04] <yeaaa> ohhh
[21:04] <spaztik> http://superuser.com/questions/548327/what-is-the-difference-between-link-speed-and-propagation-speed-of-a-network-lin
[21:05] <spaztik> due to the lower frequency, it has to make ~2x more packet transfers for data, causing more overhead than 5ghz
[21:05] <spaztik> especially if data sent doesn't fill packet buffers
[21:06] <yeaaa> i still think something is wrong, as this laptop hits 50mbps in windows 7
[21:07] <marc__> so anyone got on idea about wifi chipset rtl8192cu. already tried the fixed driver from git no luck
[21:07] <sasaji1234> can anyone help a newbie out here?
[21:08] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, ask away, if anyone knows the answer, they'll likely respond.
[21:08] <yeaaa> i think i might still switch as windows 7 slowly goes to shit on mech drives
[21:08] <yeaaa> i heard ubuntu doesnt slow down over time on mechanical drives
[21:08] <ikonia> jno OS does that
[21:09] <sasaji1234> well i have this tar file i unzipped but theres no configure file or anything else
[21:09] <ikonia> please control your language, there is no need to swear
[21:09] <sasaji1234> thers the xml and a Makefile
[21:09] <sasaji1234> no read me or anything
[21:09] <imbezol> is there a way i can tell it to ignore dependencies for a package, forever?
[21:09] <ikonia> that would be a bad thing to do
[21:09] <ikonia> dependencies are needed
[21:10] <sasaji1234> are you talking to me ikonia
[21:10] <imbezol> well the problem is that the package is broken and i need to use it before a fix is available
[21:10] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, Open the make file and checkout the make targets, maybe it doesn't need a ./configure script and a simple make commans is all that's needed.
[21:10] <ikonia> imbezol then you need the dependencies
[21:10] <imbezol> ikonia: teamviewer9 requires lib32asound2, lib32z1, and ia32-libs
[21:10] <spaztik> yeaaa: you're probably referring to file fragmentation, and you're corect
[21:10] <ikonia> imbezol: and ?
[21:11] <imbezol> ikonia: but those packages are no longer available and instead provided by something else
[21:11] <Ben64> sasaji1234: explain fully what you're trying to do
[21:11] <yeaaa> will i see a performance boost moving from the usb drive to installing to HD?
[21:11] <imbezol> ikonia: so really the teamviewer9 package is broke.. but it works fine
[21:11] <sasaji1234> it just opened up some script
[21:11] <ikonia> imbezol then you can't use thepackage
[21:11] <yeaaa> its still pretty damn fast off a thumb drive
[21:11] <ikonia> imbezol: if the dependncies are missing
[21:11] <imbezol>  ikonia: using it just fine
[21:11] <imbezol> ikonia: the dependencies aren't missing.. they're just not in the package it thinks they are in
[21:11] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, what's the package, where did you download if from ?
[21:12] <ikonia> imbezol: that seems unlikley
[21:12] <ikonia> imbezol: as the package calls out the dependency packages it was built against
[21:12] <sasaji1234> it was made by my friend
[21:12] <ikonia> so if they no longer exist, they are not on the system
[21:12] <sasaji1234> is there any way i can send it to you?
[21:12] <sasaji1234> its a source code for a bluetooth pin cracker
[21:12] <cgreen> trying to reverse the order of syslog output, newest on top rather than appended to the bottom....anyone done that?
[21:13] <ikonia> cgreen: you can't
[21:13] <ikonia> it's sequentiual logging
[21:13] <ikonia> you'd have to manipulate it post logging
[21:13] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, not to me, no. I would ask your friend what the deal is if it's not posted anywhere on the net.
[21:13] <EriC^^> cgreen: tac maybe?
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> cgreen: you can tail -f /var/log/syslog in realtime if you like
[21:13] <bekks> cgreen: "tac syslog"
[21:13] <sasaji1234> i lost contact with him
[21:13] <bekks> The command is tac, not cat :)
[21:14] <sasaji1234> and iv done it before cant remember how
[21:14] <sasaji1234> i have the list of packages i require for it
[21:14] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, Just a general use caution, you should not run source code from untrusted sources or any sort of code you suspect is fishy.
[21:15] <sasaji1234> I know I trust it 100% i just forgot how to install this
[21:15] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, if your gut feeling is, something ins't right with the package, dont run it.
[21:15] <sasaji1234> is there any way i can send a screenshot
[21:15] <sasaji1234> of all the files contained in it
[21:16] <EriC^^> sasaji1234: run it in a vm in vbox
[21:16] <sasaji1234> its not a virus u guys iv used it before LOL
[21:16] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, you could pastebin the Makefile .. that should help, but no, I dont want anything sent to me here.
[21:16] <sasaji1234> no this program was designed from a friend for a specific job i wanted done
[21:17] <sasaji1234> theres a file that has a purple diamond with gears in it with the file name
[21:17] <ikonia> sasaji1234: he should be able to help you then
[21:17] <ikonia> sasaji1234: if he's made it, he should be able to talk you through what to do with it
[21:17] <sasaji1234> i cant get a hold of him
[21:17] <EriC^^> sasaji1234: that's an executable i think
[21:17] <ikonia> then be patient
[21:18] <ikonia> and wait for him to be free rather than uis guess at software he's made specifically for you
[21:18] <sasaji1234> i cant i really need it
[21:18] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, +1 that sounds like a binary to me aka - diamond shaped icon in file manager.
[21:18] <ikonia> sasaji1234: this seems very unlikley
[21:18] <ikonia> sasaji1234: what is the name of the software
[21:18] <elnhr> hey guys, can someone tell me how to enable middle button scrolling in Ubuntu 14.04? can't seem to find answers in Google..
[21:18] <sasaji1234> btf
[21:18] <sasaji1234> you wont find it
[21:18] <sasaji1234> i had my friend make it for me
[21:19] <ikonia> what is the name of the binary
[21:19] <Ben64> sasaji1234: what does it do
[21:19] <elnhr> anyone? :)
[21:19] <sasaji1234> btf
[21:19] <EriC^^> sasaji1234: try ./<executable name> in a terminal after you cd to it's directory
[21:19] <sasaji1234> it cracks the pin of a bluetooth device with a fixed pin
[21:19] <mjayk> sasaji1234: best to just wait then this is ubuntu support not random program support
[21:19] <ikonia> yeah, I'm not helping with that
[21:19] <ikonia> talk to your friend
[21:19] <lotuspsychje> elnhr: there's a package gpointing-devices where you can edit stuff
[21:19] <ikonia> crakcing bluetooth is not in my opinion something you "need urgently"
[21:19] <mjayk> +1
[21:20] <sasaji1234> im a newbie if i knew how to use ubuntu i wouldnt be here
[21:20] <morpheux_nl> allright it is working for anyone having wifi usb adapter with chipset rtl8192cu follow https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7 to the letter and it works
[21:20] <mjayk> sasaji1234: what part of ubuntu do you need help with
[21:20] <ikonia> sasaji1234: it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:20] <ikonia> sasaji1234: it's your friends software
[21:20] <ikonia> we are not supporting his software to help you crack things
[21:20] <elnhr> lotuspsychje, thanks, mate! I'll dig into that
[21:20] <ikonia> sasaji1234: your friend can tell you how to use it
[21:20] <metallic> sasaji1234, I am not sure how should I take that comment :/
[21:20] <elnhr> much appreciated :)
[21:20] <morpheux_nl> sbur, it is working!
[21:20] <sasaji1234> installing a file
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> elnhr: np :p
[21:21] <morpheux_nl> mjayk, it is working
[21:21] <sasaji1234> i have a tar.gz file i want to install i dont know how to do it
[21:21] <ikonia> sasaji1234: talk to your friend
[21:21] <mjayk> sasaji1234: in ubuntu if u wan t to install software use the software center if you want to compile the software google hopw to compile software
[21:21] <ikonia> sasaji1234: it's his software
[21:22] <Zippie> Cheers guys, any iptables experts here?
[21:22] <morpheux_nl> squinty, thank you , your article pointed me to this
[21:22] <imbezol> ikonia: for example.. libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 (0xf75fd000)
[21:22] <sasaji1234> the files it contains are .h .xml. .c .list and a Makefile
[21:22] <ikonia> imbezol: why are you showing me that example ?
[21:22] <ikonia> sasaji1234: talk to your friend
[21:22] <morpheux_nl> squinty, at first it did not work because my ndiswrapper was in the way. removed that driver and conf
[21:22] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, Best advice I can give you as being new to Ubuntu, ; dont use hacks & cracks ;  dont use software  from not published packages ; dont install binaries unless it's an official bianry.
[21:22] <ikonia> sasaji1234: it's his software,
[21:22] <mjayk> sasaji1234: google how to compile from souce
[21:23] <morpheux_nl> so anyone got some tips for someone just moved from windows to ubuntu
[21:23] <sasaji1234> is it a source?
[21:23] <ikonia> morpheux_nl: check out https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:23] <mjayk> morpheux_nl: enjoy :)
[21:23] <sasaji1234> ikonia please stop messaging me your not being helpful at all
[21:23] <ikonia> morpheux_nl: it will give you an introduction and answer some of thie "how do I"
[21:23] <ikonia> sasaji1234: then please stop asking us to support your friends custom software he's written foryou
[21:23] <mjayk> sasaji1234: then pay attention to what everyone is saying
[21:23] <morpheux_nl> ikonia, thank you very much
[21:23] <ikonia> sasaji1234: he's written it for you - it's his software, he can support it
[21:24] <sasaji1234> i told you i cant get a hold of him anymore i lost all contact
[21:24] <ikonia> sasaji1234: thats not what you said a few minutes ago
[21:24] <morpheux_nl> does anyone have an awsome theme for ubuntu
[21:24] <ikonia> morpheux_nl: themes are a weak area at the moment, but there are some out there,
[21:24] <ikonia> morpheux_nl: just keep in mind you need the theme to support unity
[21:24] <imbezol> ikonia: i'm showing you that lib32asound2 was replaced with libasound2:i386
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> morpheux_nl: check deviantart for ubuntu eyecandy
[21:25] <ikonia> imbezol: right, then the package should be updated to use that
[21:25] <morpheux_nl> lotuspsychje, i will check
[21:25] <imbezol> ikonia: so teamviewer works fine.. the package just complains the dependencies are not there because it doesn't reference the updated names
[21:25] <ikonia> imbezol: that suggests the package is not built for that distro
[21:26] <imbezol> ikonia: interesting.. it's a .deb but could be packaged for debian
[21:27] <sasaji1234> how do i compile a tar.gz file?
[21:27] <ikonia> sasaji1234: it depends,
[21:27] <ikonia> sasaji1234: your friend is the person who can walk you through it
[21:27] <EriC^^> sasaji1234: a tar.gz is an zipped archive
[21:28] <sasaji1234> so do i compile the unzipped file?
[21:28] <ki7mt> indeed, it's not compiled, though it could be, it's generated to created.
[21:28] <EriC^^> sasaji1234: tar -xzvf <filename.tar.gz> will extract it
[21:28] <elnhr> lotuspsychje, actually this is what worked for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBWViOqJ7Ro :D but, again, thanks for helping out! : )
[21:29] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, or in a file manager, right click the file, and extract to de-compress the archive
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> !yay | elnhr
[21:30] <yeaaa> was a new ubuntu release?
[21:30] <ikonia> he's already decompressed it
[21:30] <geirha> yeaaa: yes
[21:30] <yeaaa> 14.04 is outdated?
[21:30] <ikonia> he explained it had .h files and xml files in it and a Make file
[21:30] <geirha> no
[21:30] <ikonia> hence why going over it again seems unwise
[21:30] <Ben64> yeaaa: no, 14.04 is alive and supported until 2019
[21:30] <ikonia> yeaaa: no
[21:30] <yeaaa> oh its just 14.10
[21:30] <ki7mt> yeaaa, No it's an LTS release, it's not outdated at all.
[21:31] <alonz_> hello
[21:31] <Esor> hi
[21:31] <ki7mt> ikonia, good point, he needs to contact the original author.
[21:31] <Esor> ive just installed ubuntu 14.10
[21:31] <imbezol> ikonia: so no way to tell it to ignore the deps for that package? problem is i use teamviewer and it works well, but when i try to run apt-get it complains about it missing dependencies
[21:32] <elnhr> oh, lol, it broke the FireGestures plugin, but hey.. what are you going to do :D
[21:32] <Esor> i have got a problem I installed nvidia drivers (the closed source ones)
[21:32] <Esor> and from now on all the folders and apps are on top of everything
[21:32] <imbezol> ikonia: apt-get to do unrelated installs, i mean
[21:32] <yeaaa> ubuntu servers are slow
[21:32] <yeaaa> 500kbs?
[21:32] <Esor> if i launch a game these windows will be still on top
[21:32] <Ben64> yeaaa: its new release day, they're probably being flooded with people
[21:32] <ikonia> imbezol: what ?
[21:32] <yeaaa> ohhh
[21:32] <daftykins> yeaaa: use a torrent.
[21:33] <yeaaa> where?
[21:33] <Ben64> the links to 14.10 torrent were (are?) not working properly
[21:33] <Ben64> not sure if it is fixed yet
[21:34] <yeaaa> i think torrent isnt 14.04.1
[21:34] <yeaaa> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[21:34] <EriC^^> yeaaa: torrent works
[21:34] <OerHeks> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ should work fine, no?
[21:34] <Ben64> wait you're looking for 14.04 torrent?
[21:34] <yeaaa> the latest
[21:34] <yeaaa> isnt 4.1 ?
[21:35] <k1l> yeaaa: no
[21:35] <Ben64> 14.04 is the latest LTS, supported until 2019, 14.10 is the latest release, supported until July 2015
[21:35] <EriC^^> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[21:35] <h00k> There are two different "latests" - latest LTS (Long Term Support) 14.04 and the newest 14.10
[21:35] <sasaji1234> when i do the tar -xzvf comand its just listing all the files in the file
[21:35] <yeaaa> this is http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/ ?
[21:35] <k1l> there is no 4.1 ubuntu. there is 14.04.1 or 14.10. starting with yearyearmonthmonth
[21:35]  * lotuspsychje is sticking to LTS :p
[21:36] <k1l> !releases | yeaaa
[21:36] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: me too, since 8.04 :)
[21:36] <geirha> sasaji1234: The usual answer is read the accompanied README and or INSTALL file, because it's common to include such text files to explain how to build, install and use the software.
[21:36] <yeaaa> so whats so special about this new release
[21:36]  * EriC^^ will put 14.10 in a vm for kicks
[21:36] <sasaji1234> yeah i didnt get a readme or install file
[21:36] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: well good for us 14.04 is so rocksolid until 2019 :p
[21:36] <Ben64> yeaaa: it is slightly newer? nothing very special really
[21:36] <yeaaa> so i should just stick with 14.10 for stability
[21:37] <geirha> sasaji1234: There are no standards on how to share software. There are some conventions that are commonly applied, but your friend clearly hasn't used any of them, so it's impossible to help you without seeing the Makefile, and possibly the code
[21:37] <yeaaa> ?
[21:37] <k1l> yeaaa: you are mixing things again
[21:37] <yeaaa> linux is hard m8
[21:37] <k1l> yeaaa: please read the message from the bot and the link to get the numbering right
[21:37] <ki7mt> yeaaa, ALl the info you could want, and more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes
[21:37] <Ben64> yeaaa: 14.04 is the latest LTS, supported until 2019, 14.10 is the latest release, supported until July 2015
[21:37] <EriC^^> yeaaa: 14.04 is the long term support release, 14.10 is the latest release which is only supported for 9 months
[21:37] <k1l> !releases > yeaaa
[21:38] <sasaji1234> i know where to get all the packages required to run the program but other than that all i have are these .c .h .xml .list and Makefile
[21:38] <imbezol> ikonia: was able to edit the depends in /var/lib/dpkg/status for now
[21:38] <yeaaa> ohhhahh
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> yeaaa: choose if you want the newest, or the longest support
[21:38] <yeaaa> so they are stable builds
[21:38] <yeaaa> just bleeding edge
[21:38] <yeaaa> ?
[21:38] <EriC^^> sasaji1234: type make in the terminal after you cd to the directory
[21:38] <ikonia> imbezol thats not something you should be doing
[21:38] <ikonia> EriC^^: this is not cool
[21:39] <ki7mt> yeaaa, sort of, they are well tested, but short with respect to long term support.
[21:39] <imbezol> ikonia: perhaps but i can't see it breaking anything but that particular package
[21:39] <daftykins> Ubuntu isn't bleeding edge
[21:39] <EriC^^> ikonia: i don't like that it's to do with cracking
[21:39] <ikonia> EriC^^: this guys has written software for cracking bluetooth pass codes, you don't know what it does how it works, and you're blindly telling someone to install it by blindly typing make
[21:39] <k1l> sasaji1234: that software should have come with some sort of readme or instructions. or see at their page.
[21:39] <emigrant-ntb> lts version is fine
[21:39] <EriC^^> ikonia: he wants to install it though and trusts it though
[21:39] <EriC^^> ikonia: yes i know but what's his other choice?
[21:39] <sasaji1234> its saying nothing to be done for 'all'
[21:39] <ikonia> EriC^^: I'm not interested that it's to do with cracking, however as it is to do with cracking it's going to have some sort of brute force code in there  you have no idea what else it's doing it
[21:40] <ikonia> blindly doing make/install is not cool
[21:40] <Ben64> k1l: its software his friend made, to crack bluetooth. no readme, no install, no notes, no contact with said friend
[21:40] <k1l> then i would not even think about installing that
[21:40] <Ben64> bingo
[21:40] <EriC^^> ikonia: i know, just thought he trusts it, and by convention running make would install i guess
[21:40] <Rasputin> Hello every one
[21:41] <lotuspsychje> maybe he should install rkhunter also :p
[21:41] <sasaji1234> its from a trusted source im 100 percent
[21:41] <ikonia> EriC^^: you have no idea what make does
[21:41] <k1l> then consult the trusted source.
[21:41] <EriC^^> ikonia: it compiles everything
[21:41] <ikonia> EriC^^: he has no idea/reason to trust it
[21:41] <ikonia> EriC^^: no it doesn't
[21:41] <ikonia> EriC^^: it executes what's in the make file instructions
[21:41] <ikonia> EriC^^: you have no idea what's in that make file instruction
[21:41] <sasaji1234> i can post whats in the makefile
[21:41] <sasaji1234> ?
[21:42] <ki7mt> sasaji1234, It doesn't matter if you trust it or not, its cracking software .. don't expect most folks here to help you with that type of software, not being rude, jsut saying
[21:42] <EriC^^> ikonia: yes, which by convention is that it compiles the software.. no?
[21:42] <ikonia> sasaji1234: bottom line - this is not an ubuntu problem
[21:42] <ikonia> sasaji1234: this is your friends problem to teach you how to use his software that he wrote for you
[21:42] <ikonia> personally I'm not happy about this channel helping you assist in bluetooth cracking
[21:43] <sasaji1234> whats wrong with cracking?
[21:43] <sasaji1234> its for a FIXED device
[21:43] <EriC^^> neither am i, wifi i wouldn't have assisted
[21:43] <ikonia> sasaji1234: I think you need to take this elsewhere - talk to your friend, find a way to contact him
[21:43] <ikonia> this is not really applicable for this channel to take it any futher
[21:44] <EriC^^> ikonia: btw im assisting him cause he said he's used it before
[21:44] <Rasputin> I had trouble to install 14.04 for first time on my laptop even with 5mo/s burn speed, do you think I should try more times with other Dvds burns or maybe I should the LTS version ?
[21:44] <ikonia> EriC^^: that seems unlikley seeing as he has no idea how to use it
[21:44] <sasaji1234> i think its suitable im tryna figure out other ways to install/compile software on ubuntu
[21:44] <jimmy51v_> umm... installing 14.04 the install wizard won't let me use a "." in my username.  firstname.lastname not allowed?
[21:44] <ikonia> other ways ?
[21:44] <simonor> Hello chaps.
[21:45] <ikonia> sasaji1234: it's not
[21:45] <Artemis3> Rasputin, can't you use an usb thumbdrive?
[21:45] <simonor> Pleased with 14.10.
[21:45] <lotuspsychje> Rasputin: 14.04 is the lts version
[21:45] <bekks> jimmy51v_: No.
[21:45] <k1l> jimmy51v_: no. that will break some problems
[21:45] <k1l> *some programs
[21:46] <simonor> It really does seem to fix BCM43142 on the p078ba(Pavilion 15)
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> !compile | sasaji1234
[21:46] <Rasputin> ok thank you very much I'll give it a try with a thumbdrive, nice idea ;)
[21:46] <jimmy51v_> dangit.  the windows active directory domain username pattern is firstname.lastname.  i've got a project of getting my linux machines working with it (LDAP or whatever)
[21:46] <simonor> Which is nice.
[21:46] <jimmy51v_> that's going to complicate things
[21:46] <ikonia> jimmy51v_: you can do it afterwards if you "need" that format
[21:46] <ikonia> just don't use the wizard
[21:46] <ikonia> but be very careful
[21:46] <bekks> jimmy51v_: So just map the username in samba/ldap.
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> simonor: fix in what way?
[21:47] <sasaji1234> thanks obottu
[21:47] <simonor> Stable, 3 times faster.
[21:47] <jimmy51v_> ikonia: what could it break?
[21:47] <ikonia> jimmy51v_: depends on your setup, AD was a good example of a conflict
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> simonor: can you pastebin lshw -C network for me plz?
[21:47] <jimmy51v_> (i mean, what could having periods mid username break in linux?)
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> simonor: curious about wich driver loaded
[21:48] <simonor> lotuspsychie: fingers crossed, but bso far ptime.hours u
[21:49] <simonor> Key board a little odd though!
[21:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[21:49] <simonor> Five hours uptime
[21:49] <simonor> It's an alternative STA proprietory
[21:49] <lotuspsychje> simonor: can you tell me whats after driver=
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> simonor: lswh -C network
[21:50] <simonor> You mean lspci?
[21:50] <rambler2> oh fml, used ubntu live usb, didnt install anything, rebooted to save some windows file and now windows says cant boot
[21:50] <Quatroking> Hi, how do I quickly make it so that numlock is enabled at boot? My BIOS doesn't have any option for it
[21:50] <kelunik> Morning, I have a hybrid storage device. I'm using the small SSD (24GB) for Ubuntu. Because the filesystem was too small, I moved /home and /opt to other partitions on my HDD. Ubuntu reports low disk space, but disk usage analyser says, only 10,5 GB are used. What's the right value?
[21:50] <daftykins> kelunik: pastebin "df -h"
[21:50] <ikonia> kelunik: please pastebin the output of "df -h"
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> simonor: can you find it?
[21:53] <simonor> lotuspsychje:don't have lswh. lspci -k says wl
[21:53] <kelunik> daftykins: https://gist.github.com/kelunik/6f0b4134aaefc6088854
[21:53] <simonor> lswh
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> simonor: from terminal sudo lshw - C network
[21:54] <lotuspsychje> simonor: -C
[21:54] <k1l> kelunik: yes, 94% used which means only 1% left (since 5% are blocked for root)
[21:55] <lotuspsychje> simonor: it should show driver loaded after driver=
[21:55] <simonor> lotus - you having keyboard probs too? lshw!
[21:55] <simonor> driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.248 (r487574)
[21:55] <kelunik> k1l: yes, but why does disk usage analyzer report that only 10,5 GB are used?
[21:56] <Esor> i'm happy with the new ubuntu
[21:56] <lotuspsychje> simonor: thank you!
[21:56] <k1l> kelunik: dont know. maybe it can read links or such
[21:56] <simonor> I specifically upgraded when I saw the new BCM driver package in the 14.10 repo 2 weeks ago.
[21:57] <kelunik> k1l: which folders beside home and opt should I move to an own partition?
[21:57] <lotuspsychje> simonor: you know the packagename perhaps
[21:58] <k1l> kelunik: that depends on what you want to do. but a basis ubuntu desktop should suit on 10gb with /home excluded. so i dont know what you all got installed there
[21:58] <ikonia> what the devil is in /opt taking up 20GB
[21:58] <Ondraash> hi everyone, I have trouble with CUDA after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 - driver version mismatch, although I have everything from the repo
[21:59] <simonor> lotus:bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:59] <kelunik> ikonia: intellij, android studio, steam, spotify and jdk 8
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> simonor: tnx!
[21:59] <Ondraash> has anyone seen a similar problem? I am using nvidia-331-updates
[21:59] <k1l> Ondraash: dont waste time and upgrade straight to 14.04 or 14.10. 12.10 is out of support
[21:59] <daftykins> kelunik: dump steam for sure
[21:59] <Ondraash> 12->14
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> !info bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:59] <Ondraash> sorry, that was a typo. meant 14.04 and 14.10
[21:59] <kelunik> darftykins: opt is already an own partition
[21:59] <k1l> Ondraash: ah ok.
[21:59] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: you need to find where in / your space is being taken up
[22:00] <simonor> Enjoy! The pavilion is really sweet when it fires on all cylinders.
[22:00] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: sorry, not you
[22:00] <ikonia> kelunik: look at /var or /var/www if you're running a web server, that's often overlooked, but look into / and see where the space is
[22:01] <JCT> is there a way to stream a pc screen as a webcam?
[22:01] <ki7mt> Ondraash, is there something specific you need or want in 14.10 ? If no, other testing general development pushes, I'd recommend 14.04
[22:01] <ki7mt> other than testing ..
[22:01] <simonor> Goodnight chaps and chapesses. I'll give another bcm update tomorrow. Here's hoping it stays good.
[22:02] <lotuspsychje> JCT: whats your end goal exactly?
[22:02] <JCT> broadcast the desktop screen as if it were a device, a selectable device
[22:02] <JCT> as a webcam
[22:02] <JCT> liek a live stream
[22:03] <JCT> is there any apps for dat?
[22:03] <Ondraash> ki7mt: I wanted CUDA 6.0 from the repo as well as some fixes related to my Logitech mouse which did not look reasonable for cherry picking
[22:03] <lotuspsychje> JCT: not sure what you want exactly..
[22:03] <lotuspsychje> JCT: you want the public seeing your desktop?
[22:03] <JCT> somewhat.
[22:03] <ki7mt> JCT, Look into WebCamStudio .. that should  do what your after.
[22:03] <JCT> hmm ok
[22:04] <JCT> is it in software center?
[22:04] <JCT> ?
[22:04] <ki7mt> JCT, I dont know, didnt' look, more info here: http://hotcoding.crombz.com/
[22:05] <JCT> k
[22:05] <JCT> over and out
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> webcamstudio is more to fake webcam screen into something else
[22:05] <ki7mt> Ondraash, Fare enough, Id' do a straight install of 14.10 rather than upgrading then.
[22:06] <ki7mt> lotuspsychje, its an option, may not be the best one though. But as they say, "best" is subjective at "best" :-)
[22:06] <lotuspsychje> ki7mt: true :p
[22:06] <OerHeks> VLC can stream your desktop http://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleId=14625
[22:06] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: interesting!
[22:07] <OerHeks> for years or so
[22:07] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: vlc is like a swiss knife :p
[22:07] <Ondraash> ki7mt: I installed the system recently and redoing it is a bit of a bother. not horrible, but certainly not ideal.
[22:07] <Ondraash> It does not really seem like the kind of thing that merits a reinstall
[22:08] <ki7mt> Ondraash, Only reason I say that is, the intermediate releases will get you one, maybe two upgrades then things can start being troublesome, as the older base install goes out of support.
[22:09] <ki7mt> Ondraash, In this case, July 2015 or something like that? I ty[ically run the non-LTS releases in a VM.
[22:10] <ki7mt> Ondraash, Any which point, I can snapshot it, and do whatever without worry.
[22:13] <kelunik> ikonia: sudo du -sh /var: 1,6G + sudo du -sh usr: 5,9G + 1,1G @ lib <<< 20G
[22:15] <rambler2> oh god im backing up to install ubuntu
[22:16] <lotuspsychje> kelunik: try bleachbit to cleanout stuff, and firefox cache
[22:16] <rambler2> i hope it goes well
[22:17] <kelunik> lotuspsychje: I don't want to delete temporary data, I want to know what data uses my disk space.
[22:17] <ki7mt> kelunik, Not sure if you using pbuilder or not, but it's ccache and all the base.tgz files get stuffed in there if you've not changed it with .pbuilderrc
[22:18] <rambler2> how large is ubuntu?
[22:18] <lotuspsychje> kelunik: use the disk space app from dash, and tree-view folders
[22:19] <ki7mt> I build Jessie, Sid, Trusty and Utopic packages, pbuilder_dir is 130+ GB
[22:19] <lotuspsychje> rambler2: i think setup wants 6gig+ free space if i can recall
[22:20] <ki7mt> WHOOPS, 13.01 GB not 130Gb .. LOL
[22:20] <kelunik> lotuspsychje: As said before, that app shows only 10.5G are used vs. 20G from df -h
[22:21] <kelunik> ki7mt: never used pbuilder
[22:21] <lotuspsychje> kelunik: you need to dig yourself deep in folders yourself with the disk usage app, to see where the data hides
[22:22] <lotuspsychje> kelunik: also try sudo gparted, to doublecheck if there's no weird uefi partition on that ssd
[22:22] <EriC^^> kelunik: try df -hsb instead
[22:23] <ki7mt> for top 10 folders: du -ha / | sort -n -r | head -n 10
[22:23] <SmileyChris> hi, I removed some old unneeded drivers (samsungmfp) with apt-get, but two dependant packages are now marked as requiring removal -- but dpkg errors out trying to remove them
[22:24] <SmileyChris> the two packages are  samsungmfp-scanner and samsungmfp-driver-4.00.36, both return the following dpkg error: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[22:25] <kelunik> lotuspsychje: efi partition is on /dev/sdb
[22:25] <SmileyChris> how can I either purge or just ignore these packages?
[22:25] <SmileyChris> (since I can't apt-get install anything now)
[22:26] <lotuspsychje> kelunik: so no weird partitions on sda showing?
[22:26] <EriC^^> nevermind don't think it's the problem though
[22:26] <EriC^^> unless you have them reversed i guess
[22:26] <EriC^^> kelunik: try df -hsb , it could be due to disk usage vs apparent size
[22:26] <kelunik> lotuspsychje: nope, just my ubuntu ext4 partition
[22:26] <lotuspsychje> kk
[22:27] <kelunik> EriC^^: df: invalid option -- 's'
[22:27] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, is thist/ your package or one that you installed ? the postrm files live in /var/lib/dpkg/info along with preinst . lists etc.
[22:27] <ki7mt> is this you package .. .
[22:28] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: not my package - an "official" samsung driver installed (a long time ago)
[22:28] <EriC^^> kelunik: my bad, du -sbh
[22:28] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, do you need it installed still ?
[22:28] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: nope,
[22:29] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, You can install --reinstall it to ensure all the files are present, then simply purge it after that
[22:29] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: 15G   .   what does that show?
[22:29] <EriC^^> apparent size
[22:29] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: Reinstallation of [the two packages] is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[22:29] <lotuspsychje> nice
[22:31] <kelunik> EriC^^: 129T	/ <-- lol
[22:31] <newbie|3> i'm working on new distribution called 'Ubuntu Sux' who's interested?
[22:31] <think> whats the desktop environment?
[22:31] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, Well there's only a few options really, I would do a clean, autoclean and autoremove first, then try to purge the two packages.
[22:31] <EriC^^> kelunik: :D
[22:32] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: fails on autoremove
[22:32] <rambler2> how exactly does install alongside option work?
[22:32] <rambler2> will it use my empty parition automatically?
[22:32] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, I dont advocate this for daily use but:   sudo dpkg --force-all -P <package-name>
[22:32] <kelunik> EriC^^: So what does that mean?
[22:33] <think> rambler2: it will split the partition that the other OS is currently on.
[22:33] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: had tried that too, still failing with: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[22:34] <rambler2> think, split the parition?
[22:34] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: maybe I just go trash the post-removal scripts first?
[22:35] <rambler2> think, will i be able to dual boot?
[22:35] <EriC^^> kelunik: what exactly is your problem, i only saw the msg about inconsistent sizes
[22:36] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, postrm / postinst are dh_* hooks, you can look at the source package, and see what's being installed where an manually move them. If there's no <packag-name>.postrm file in var/lib/dpkg/info .. you may get away with it,. but can hooks init.d and all sorts of other things, maybe even dkms in the case of drivers.
[22:36] <kelunik> EriC^^: I want to know what uses that much space. A normal Ubuntu install shouldn't need 20G
[22:37] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: there are .postrm files in there
[22:37] <kelunik> EriC^^: My previous installation without an outsourced /home needed 20G, but now the partition is also 20G with /home on a separate partition.
[22:37] <ratsarebig> Ha
[22:38] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: they don't look very interesting though (just does /etc/init.d/udev restart)
[22:38] <ratsarebig> Yes so real
[22:38] <alonz_> I need mcrypt - install mcrypt and php5-mcrypt doesnt help
[22:39] <ratsarebig> alonz_:
[22:39] <think> rambler2:  sorry, it will actually give you a slider on that partition on how much space you want to allocate, and it will allow dual boot
[22:39] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, Shat you want to do is looke at postrm, and see what shell command is present, when removing the package, you'll want to run that shell command afterwards, as that's added by debhelper at install.
[22:39] <rambler2> think, weird, i never got the slider
[22:39] <rambler2> im worried now o_O
[22:39] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: just udev and cups restart
[22:39] <ratsarebig> rambler2:
[22:39] <ki7mt> .. What you want to to is look at .. .. .
[22:39] <rambler2> ratifers, ?
[22:40] <k1l_> ratsarebig: please reduce the nonsense. thanks
[22:40] <alonz_> ratifers,
[22:40] <rambler2> oh  fukc, im nervous now, i selected alongside but never got the slider
[22:40] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, Ok, cp the postrm fiel somwhere, purge the original package, then run the shall commands manually.
[22:40] <SmileyChris> aight
[22:40] <ratsarebig> Aight
[22:41] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: du -sbhx / #Will tell you the disk usage of all of the files in our root partition. It does this by not descending into other filesystems like those mounted to /home/ and /opt/.
[22:42] <ki7mt> SmileyChris, Actually, copy postinst and postrm to say $HOME .. then remove them from /var/lib/dpkg/info .. then purge and run manually.
[22:42] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: thanks for the help, that seemed to work
[22:42] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: i see
[22:42] <IPhoton> This doesn't make any sense, I have 85GB free of hard drive space on my C drive with Windows  7, and it says the most I can free up is 13GBs. That is where I want to put my Linux installation
[22:42] <SmileyChris> ki7mt: too late for the postinst, they are gone :)
[22:43] <ki7mt> SmileyChris,  .. :-)  ok .. make sure you update udev though, cups is well, not as important, but udev is important.
[22:43] <think> rambler2: weird the slider pops up right after the alongside option. you didnt get a warning that you have to confirm saying that the partition will be erased did you?
[22:43] <rambler2> think, no
[22:43] <ratsarebig> IPhoton: 85gb you back in the year 1980
[22:43] <rambler2> its at 90% oh god pls dont mess up
[22:44] <rambler2> rebooting
[22:44] <IPhoton> ratifers, but it's SSD, from a 240GB
[22:44] <ratsarebig> IPhoton: I have thumb drives bigger
[22:44] <TheDuckDude> then what?
[22:44] <IPhoton> I do have another 1TB but I want it installed in the SSD
[22:44] <rambler2> OMG bootloader with windows
[22:44] <rambler2> PRAISE THE LORD
[22:44] <EriC^^> kelunik: du -bxht 1G /
[22:44] <EriC^^> kelunik: that will list all files larger than 1G on /
[22:44] <think> I feel like it just went with the default split rambler
[22:44] <think> Good to hear :)
[22:44] <rambler2> and on this day, jesus said let there be linux
[22:45] <think> \o/
[22:45] <IPhoton> Well then, I guess no linux install today :(
[22:45] <IPhoton> have to wait till I buy a new HD
[22:46] <kelunik> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/pSeHc5mv
[22:46] <TheDuckDude> what size will it be @iphoton?
[22:46] <Jordan_U> kelunik: du -sbhx / #Will tell you the disk usage of all of the files in our root partition. It does this by not descending into other filesystems like those mounted to /home/ and /opt/.
[22:46] <IPhoton> I just wanted to run my Ubuntu for learning software development with 40GB of space
[22:46] <IPhoton> but I am trying to partition my SSD and it says I can only free up to 13GB
[22:46] <TheDuckDude> wtf? lol
[22:46] <rambler2> think, hmm any reason why its slower off HD? ran a little faster off the usb?
[22:46] <IPhoton> but I know I have 85GB of space unused
[22:46] <rambler2> or is it just because first boot?
[22:47] <lotuspsychje> why would someone partition an ssd
[22:47] <rambler2> to be neat?
[22:47] <IPhoton> Won't the OS run faster?
[22:47] <bekks> lotuspsychje: For the same reasons as someone would partition a non-ssd.
[22:47] <rambler2> IPhoton, no...
[22:47] <bekks> IPhoton: No, why would it?
[22:47] <ki7mt> multi-boot, reasons are infinite
[22:48] <kelunik> Jordan_U: 8,0G	/ <-- Then I can't understand why I can't install Ubuntu 14.10 because there's not enough disk space.
[22:48] <rambler2> because he is thinking of platter hd bekks
[22:48] <rambler2> oh mechanical drives smaller paritions can be snappier
[22:48] <TheDuckDude> How much space does ubuntu 14.10 require?
[22:48] <rambler2> i think 5 to 7gb
[22:48] <IPhoton> well I have installed Win7 on magnetic drives and on SSDs and they run way faster on SSDs
[22:48] <TheDuckDude> oh
[22:48] <ki7mt> 3 to 4 gb for full blown DE
[22:48] <Jordan_U> kelunik: Do you mean you can't upgrade to 14.10?
[22:49] <bekks> IPhoton: I doubt that due to the nature of SSD. :)
[22:49] <kelunik> Jordan_U: Yep.
[22:49] <EriC^^> kelunik: what's df -h say about "/"
[22:49] <think> rambler2: hmm, give it a reboot after a few minutes to see if its because of the first-time, but I'm not sure why it would be running slower.
[22:49] <lotuspsychje> i just use the whole ssd for ubuntu
[22:49] <IPhoton> So I should just go ahead and partition the regular Magnetic drive?
[22:49] <IPhoton> I need to delete some files and defrag
[22:50] <ki7mt> defrag , on *Nix ?
[22:50] <bekks> IPhoton: Which filesystem do you have?
[22:50] <kelunik> EriC^^: /dev/sda1        22G   20G  1,4G  94% /
[22:50] <EriC^^> kelunik: try du -hxt 1 / , see if you get a different result
[22:50] <EriC^^> kelunik: sorry, du -hxt 1G /
[22:50] <Jordan_U> kelunik: It could be that you have some large files that are deleted (unlinked) but still open. In which case closing whichever processes have them open will allow their space to be reclaimed.
[22:51] <rambler2> anyway to confirm all drivers are loaded properly?
[22:51] <rambler2> just installed ubuntu
[22:51] <kelunik> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/TNAGyDpy
[22:51] <think> rambler2:if you go to software and updates there will be an additional drivers tab for you to check.
[22:52] <bekks> TheDuckDude: dont IRC as root ;)
[22:52] <kelunik> Jordan_U: Low disk space warning appears since many reboots.
[22:52] <rambler2> think, ty
[22:52] <TheDuckDude> aw D: :D
[22:52] <IPhoton> what do you mean, bekks
[22:52] <think> rambler2: anytime buddy.
[22:53] <IPhoton> It's just an external hard drive I use in conjunction with Win7 for storage
[22:53] <bekks> IPhoton: You said you need to defrag - which filesystem type do you want to defrag?
[22:53] <Jordan_U> kelunik: Ahh, I have an idea. It may be that you have another /home/ or /opt/ within your root partition, whose contents are simply being hidden by your having mounted over them.
[22:53] <TheDuckDude> is that better
[22:53] <bekks> TheDuckDude: yeah :)
[22:53] <TheDuckDude> yay
[22:54] <IPhoton> not sure how to check bekks, not a pro in this
[22:54] <IPhoton> just D drive ...
[22:54] <IPhoton> lol
[22:54] <bekks> IPhoton: well, is it NTFS, or ext4 or or or?
[22:55] <TheDuckDude> whats wrong with ircing with root
[22:55] <IPhoton> ah ok I see it now, it's NTFS
[22:55] <Jordan_U> kelunik: sudo mkdir /unhidden_root/ && sudo mount --bind / /unhidden_root/ && du -sbhx /unhidden_root/
[22:55] <kelunik> Jordan_U: How can I check that?
[22:55] <bekks> TheDuckDude: http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/08/27/never-irc-as-root/
[22:55] <k1l_> TheDuckDude: what is wrong with playing with a loaded gun? you dont use root permissions where you dont need them
[22:55] <TheDuckDude> oh
[22:55] <TheDuckDude> true
[22:56] <TheDuckDude> lol
[22:56] <LadyLinux> Hello. I took the KDE desktop off of my netbook and put lubuntu on it instead, but now I don't see the network and file sharing in the menu when I use a file browser. I have another computer that runs samba and hosts files. Maybe I removed the packages that lets lubuntu access files over the samba network. What should I install to get it back?
[22:56] <think> The more you know..
[22:56] <IPhoton> does that answer you bekks? It's NTFS
[22:56] <kelunik> Jordan_U: Some permission denied messages and 19G	/unhidden_root/
[22:57] <bekks> IPhoton: Yes :)
[22:57] <EriC^^> Jordan_U: very cool
[22:57] <Jordan_U> kelunik: /unhidden_root/ will now show you all of the files in the filesystem contained within your root partition, including any which are hidden by being mounted over. So for a normal user with a separate /home/ and /opt/, there should be no files in /unhidden_root/home/ or /unhidden_root/opt/, but I'll bet there are files in one or both of those directories.
[22:57] <IPhoton> so what now ? O.o
[22:57] <IPhoton> I am okay to shrink that drive?
[22:57] <IPhoton> LadyLinux, welcome to Ubuntu channel :)
[22:57] <bekks> IPhoton: So you want to install Ubuntu on that drive?
[22:58] <IPhoton> In either, I just want to be able to choose during start up between Ubuntu and Windows 7
[22:58] <lotuspsychje> !samba | LadyLinux
[22:58] <IPhoton> I do have ubuntu on a VM, but I am unable to share monitors
[22:58] <bekks> IPhoton: what does that mean?
[22:59] <IPhoton> which part?
[22:59] <bekks> IPhoton: "I am unable to share monitors"
[22:59] <IPhoton> I have two monitors and on a Virtual Machine on VMware, I can't share them
[22:59] <EriC^^> IPhoton: you mean use 2 monitors?
[22:59] <bekks> IPhoton: What do you mean by "share monitors"?
[23:00] <IPhoton> when you have 2 monitors, you have more space
[23:00] <IPhoton> is this making sense?
[23:00] <EriC^^> IPhoton: no literally what do you mean by that
[23:00] <IPhoton> haha
[23:00] <IPhoton> ok
[23:00] <bekks> IPhoton: Thats not sharing monitors, thats just using monitors :)
[23:00] <EriC^^> IPhoton: you mean you can't hook up 2 monitors to the OS?
[23:00] <IPhoton> oh :|
[23:01] <kelunik> Jordan_U: Yes, both contain files, probably from an old Ubuntu installation. So should I just delete opt and home in unhidden_root?
[23:01] <IPhoton> MVware is running an Ubuntu VM, so no, I can't see the contents on both monitors
[23:01] <IPhoton> only on one
[23:01] <Jordan_U> kelunik: Only if you're absolutely 100% sure that you don't care about those files.
[23:01] <LadyLinux> Thanks lotuspsychje. But these are both linux computers. Under KDE I used to be able to just click in the file manager to brows shared folders over the network. Now it's not listed (under Lubuntu / PCManFM file manager)
[23:01] <bekks> IPhoton: And I am using a virtualized desktop with two displays, which runs on VMware. Install guest additions and configure your vm to have two monitors.
[23:01] <IPhoton> that is why I want to have it installed locally and permanently on a drive
[23:01] <Jordan_U> kelunik: But yes, deleting them would free up that space.
[23:02] <kelunik> Jordan_U: I'll back up home and delete opt :-)
[23:02] <IPhoton> where do I get guest additions?
[23:02] <lotuspsychje> LadyLinux: look into the startup items maybe sharedfolders are not enabled?
[23:03] <lotuspsychje> LadyLinux: or try software centre
[23:03] <rambler2> where are applications installed? i need to put a app plugin into a folder
[23:03] <bekks> IPhoton: They are shipped with VMware.
[23:03] <IPhoton> oh well umm, this was cracked VMware... :/
[23:03] <bekks> IPhoton: Doesnt matter.
[23:03] <bekks> IPhoton: They are still shipped.
[23:03] <OerHeks> rambler2, a good plugin comes with a manual
[23:04] <k1l_> rambler2: which program?
[23:04] <IPhoton> VMware build 10.0.0
[23:04] <rambler2> keepass2
[23:04] <rambler2> need http plugin
[23:04] <bekks> IPhoton: Thats VMware Workstation. And they still ship the guest additions. I guess ##vmware may be the right place to ask :)
[23:05] <kellercw78> Although I am not using it as my primary desktop, I have been seeding the latest releases.  Though I would also have some virtualboxes around of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Mate.  Has anyone had any problems with garbled displays on boot under virtualbox?
[23:05] <Jordan_U> kelunik: When you're done with this you can unmount the bind mount with "sudo umount /unhidden_root/" then *carefully* delete the directory by running "sudo rmdir /unhidden_root/". Note that I'm using rmdir, and not rm, that's because rmdir will refuse to remove a directory that's not empty and so will prevent you from accidentally deleting everything in your root partition.
[23:05] <IPhoton> only a bot there
[23:05] <IPhoton> lol
[23:06] <bekks> IPhoton: So try #vmware
[23:06] <kisuke> I've got a stillborn server here, http://imgur.com/St4AzrQ is all I've managed to get our off it so far, any idea how to fix? Google points me at 8 year old bugs for openipmi and ipmi_si
[23:06] <OerHeks> rambler2, there is a ppa for that > https://launchpad.net/~dlech/+archive/ubuntu/keepass2-plugins?field.series_filter=utopic
[23:07] <rambler2> no idea what this is
[23:07] <rambler2> the hell is a ppa
[23:08] <OerHeks> !ppa
[23:08] <rambler2> use at own risk and password manager doesnt go well together lol
[23:08] <TheDuckDude> ._.
[23:09] <rambler2> id rather take the 2 mins and just copy the file over to the plugin directory
[23:09] <rambler2> i just need to know where programs are installed to by default, simple
[23:09] <bekks> rambler2: Depends on the programs.
[23:10] <rambler2> keepass2
[23:10] <EriC^^> rambler2: just use gpg for keeping passwords
[23:10] <ki7mt> +1
[23:10] <rambler2> i dont want to transfer 200 pws right now
[23:10] <bekks> rambler2: so just look at the package content.
[23:10] <frew> how can I upgrade to 14.10 if I'm on 14.04?  I think my computer thinks I want to stick with LTS
[23:10] <bekks> rambler2: Place the keypass db file in your home, open it using keepass.
[23:10] <ki7mt> or why cant you install the version in the apt-store?
[23:10] <bekks> no need to know where keepass is installed.
[23:10] <rambler2> i dont need help opening my db
[23:10] <rambler2> i need help installing a plugin
[23:11] <OerHeks> rambler2, maybe the plugin goes in your /home/ folder somewhere, a good plugin comes with a manual
[23:11] <EriC^^> frew: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:11] <kelunik> frew: search for updater -> settings -> alert on any new version -> run updater -> upgrade next to ok button if all updates are installed.
[23:11] <frew> EriC^^: yeah it says not new release
[23:11] <bubbasaures> frew, 14.04 has 5 years support, 14.10 much less are you sure you want to upgrade?
[23:11] <EriC^^> frew: try sudo apt-get update , maybe
[23:11] <rambler2> what is ~ directory?
[23:11] <rambler2> where can i find it
[23:11] <frew> bubbasaures: yes
[23:12] <EriC^^> rambler2: home directory
[23:12] <EriC^^> ( your home directory )
[23:12] <frew> kelunik: any idea what the actual command is?  I don't use unity (or even a thing with a menu)
[23:12] <ki7mt> rambler2, ~ is same as /home/$USER
[23:12] <frew> kelunik: to start the UI I mean
[23:13] <kelunik> frew: I don't know.
[23:13]  * frew tries update-manager
[23:13] <bekks> frew: Starting a display manager is the correct way to start "the UI".
[23:13] <EriC^^> frew: try typing update-manager , maybe
[23:13] <bubbasaures> frew, software & updates third tab 'updates' bottom tab set it to any new version. You will see it in the update gui when available.
[23:14] <frew> bekks: I have a display manager running.
[23:14] <frew> bubbasaures: how do I start "software & updates" from a terminal?  (assuming that's not just update-manager)
[23:14] <bubbasaures> frew, No X?
[23:14] <frew> ...
[23:14] <frew> I have X
[23:15] <frew> I just don't use a menu
[23:15] <frew> nor unity
[23:15] <bekks> frew: You should not start your updates from a terminal. Just in case you'll get a new X version, it will mess up your update process.
[23:15] <rambler2> are you kidding me? i cant drag and drop a file to a folder? lmao
[23:15] <frew> bekks: the terminal is running in X
[23:15] <kelunik> Jordan_U: /dev/sda1        22G  8,9G   12G  43% / <-- Thank you very much!
[23:15] <bekks> frew: you could start in in "screen" or "tmux", so it will be independent of X.
[23:16] <rambler2> i get a permission denined error lol
[23:16] <frew> bekks: I do not care about X, I just want to start the program from an xterm
[23:16] <bekks> frew: which program in particular?
[23:16] <xx> Howdy
[23:16] <frew> gracious
[23:16] <EriC^^> frew: software-properties-gtk
[23:16] <EriC^^> ^^ software & updates
[23:16] <frew> I fgiured it out
[23:16] <frew> sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:17] <bekks> frew: Thats not a graphical program. :)
[23:17] <bekks> ...
[23:18] <xx> bam
[23:18] <Bashing-om> frew: edit the file: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades , Change Prompt=lts to Prompt=normal and save the changes .
[23:18] <EriC^^> how come when you start nautilus from the terminal, you can just close the terminal straight away
[23:19] <bekks> EriC^^: Because it is detached from the terminal due to its nature of being a graphical application.
[23:19] <IPhoton> bekks did you get my PM?
[23:19] <k1l_> EriC^^: gui programs work other than cli programs in that case
[23:19] <bekks> IPhoton: Please keep it in the channel.
[23:19] <EriC^^> bekks: but xchat and other gui programs aren't detached
[23:20] <IPhoton> do you know what this means? http://imgur.com/UWaL62C
[23:20] <bekks> EriC^^: Nautilus is a bit special in that way.
[23:20] <bekks> IPhoton: You are asked to replace a file. But the package you are installing is NOT the official vmware guest additions.
[23:21] <bekks> IPhoton: And thats the reason why you cant use two screens.
[23:21] <IPhoton> oh :/
[23:24] <dak0> Hello guys I need little help :) Please! When I play movie on the default player cyrilic subtitles don't appear there some sybols instead of letters
[23:24] <TheDuckDude> i cant install apache2 with apt-get :(
[23:27] <ki7mt> TheDuckDude, is that all you want ( Apache ) or the LAMP stack?  and what commands are using, and what's the results / errors
[23:27] <TheDuckDude> Nvm fixed it
[23:31] <kisuke> I've got a stillborn server here, http://imgur.com/St4AzrQ is all I've managed to get our off it so far, any idea how to fix? Google points me at 8 year old bugs for openipmi and ipmi_si
[23:42] <spaztik> anyone familiar with GTK themes, icons, controls, etc?
[23:42] <spaztik> I'm not sure what the best source, or how to install them
[23:45] <newtoubuntu> Hello all, I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop but need some help getting things to work right. Can somebody please help me?
[23:45] <daftykins> newtoubuntu: ask a more specific question to the channel to start with. what's not working?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> newtoubuntu: ask! .. one issue at a time, please.
[23:46] <newtoubuntu> Okay, well I have a Dell XPS 12. I'm trying to map some hardware buttons.
[23:46] <spaztik> sorry, got disconnected
[23:46] <spaztik> Anyone know how to find and install GTK/Gnome 3 themes?
[23:47] <ki7mt> spaztik, More often than not, you simple extract the tar.gx to ~/.themes
[23:48] <Bashing-om> newtoubuntu: A standard install of ubuntu using the unity Desktop Environment ?
[23:48] <newtoubuntu> Yes, a standard install. 64 bit, 14.04 Trusty.
[23:49] <ki7mt> spaztik, Here's a few examples: http://sourcedigit.com/8704-customize-ubuntu-install-ubuntu-14-04-themes/
[23:49] <spaztik> oh interesting
[23:49] <spaztik> didn't think of PPAs
[23:49] <ki7mt> spaztik, Here's more: http://sourcedigit.com/9432-top-10-best-custom-themes-ubuntu-14-04/
[23:49] <spaztik> man i really like that numix one
[23:50] <rambler2> how do i modify panels in gnome?
[23:50] <rambler2> righ clicking doesnt do anything
[23:51] <spaztik> thanks ki7mt, gonna read those and get the gist
[23:51] <newtoubuntu> I tried going into settings and mapping keys under the custom shortcut setting, but it doesn't work.
[23:52] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak
[23:52] <frostbytn> that's a god question i haven't worked with the gnome enviornment since 10.10
[23:52] <ki7mt> spaztik, You may want to browse around in here also: http://gnome-look.org/
[23:53] <Bashing-om> newtoubuntu: Is that from the keyboard app indicator icon in the top panel ? That you are not getting a good result ?
[23:53] <spaztik> yeah i'm familiar with that site, just always felt .... lame
[23:53] <gustavo__> Hi
[23:53] <OerHeks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[23:53] <OerHeks> !info unity-tweak-tool
[23:53] <gustavo__> What happened to Ubuntu 14.10? I tought it would come out with new icons?
[23:53] <OerHeks> lots of good tools to tweak
[23:54] <newtoubuntu> Keyboard app indicator? I'm not trying to map keys with the onscreen keyboard, if that's what you mean.
[23:54] <rambler2> is that for me?
[23:55] <OerHeks> rambler2, free to try yes
[23:55] <Bashing-om> newtoubuntu: "map some hardware buttons." sorry if I jumped to a wrong conclusion. Can you be the more specific ?
[23:56] <newtoubuntu> I'm trying to map a key to bring up the onscreen keyboard. The Dell XPS 12 has a windows key under the touchscreen. This is the key I want to use.
[23:57] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: are you on ubuntu?
[23:57] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: sorry, unity?
[23:57] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: settings > keyboard > shortcuts > universal access > onscreen keyboard
[23:57] <newtoubuntu> I'm using the laptop now as I type, yes.
[23:58] <newtoubuntu> Eric^^: I have enabled that setting.
[23:58] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: the keyboard shortcut?
[23:59] <newtoubuntu> No, the switch that makes the onscreen keyboard icon appear in the taskbar.
[23:59] <newtoubuntu> I can pull up the onscreen keyboard using the mouse but would like to have it be pulled up with a hardware key.