[00:44] <zava> Hello. I need help.
[00:44] <zava> :)
[00:45] <zava> anyone up for it? I've been researching this issue for weeks
[00:45] <zava> I am exhausted. I want to sleep
[04:12] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:12] <silv3r_m00n> i was using kubuntu, and install the xubuntu-desktop package to get the xfce desktop, now i want to remove whatever i installed, how do i do that ?
[06:48] <xubuntu278> salve
[06:48] <xubuntu278> non riesco a mettere il mio pc sotto dominio
[06:48] <xubuntu278> qualcuno mi puo aiutare
[07:19] <chrisdlp> Hi, I bet this is asked all the time, but when will I be able to download 14.10? :)
[07:20] <elfy> when it's released and yes gets asked enough to be boring ;)
[07:24] <chrisdlp> but that is today, right?
[07:24] <elfy> yep
[07:24] <elfy> no - I don't know when
[07:24] <chrisdlp> Thanks and sorry!
[07:24] <elfy> you're fine :)
[08:25] <zava> Hi I am and have a complicated case for you. Is there anyone interested in helping me find a solution?
[08:26] <james0r> zava, go ahead with your question
[10:15] <LinusTorvaldII> i have often wondered why there is xubuntu and lubuntu? they seem to have similar goals-lightweight ubuntu-? is there really a big difference? wouldn't it be better if the 2 teams joined forces?
[10:25] <bluesabre> LinusTorvaldII: hey! Some good reading material, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument
[10:25] <slickymasterWork> Lubuntu is lighter than Xubuntu LinusTorvaldII
[10:28] <LinusTorvaldII> i noticed xubuntu uses close to the same ram as ubuntu
[10:28] <bluesabre> Xubuntu uses the Xfce desktop environment, which is Gtk2/3, and lightweight GTK applications. Lubuntu uses LXDE, but will soon be moving to LXQT as it progresses. We've had some parallels in the past, both using Catfish, Light Locker, and similar applications, but the goals are different
[10:29] <bluesabre> "Xubuntu does not explicitly target users with low, modest, or high powered machines but instead targets the entire spectrum. Xubuntu's extra responsiveness and speed, among other positive traits, can be appreciated by all users, regardless of their hardware. "
[10:29] <LinusTorvaldII> i once used xubuntu 9.04
[10:30] <LinusTorvaldII> does xubuntu fit on a cd?
[10:30] <slickymasterWork> LinusTorvaldII, besides the link bluesabre provided you, you can also have a read at https://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Lubuntu_vs_Xubuntu
[10:30] <slickymasterWork> no LinusTorvaldII, it doesn't
[10:31] <bluesabre> It does not. We keep it below just 1GB to fit on a DVD or most USB flash drives
[16:11] <xubuntu84o> I am currently on xubuntu 12.10 and need to upgrade, but I am getting errors from the gui. It says to check the network connection. No problems are apparent. Can someone help? Thanks
[16:12] <knome> xubuntu84o, you'll want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[16:15] <xubuntu84o> Thanks knome.
[16:15] <knome> no problem, and good luck
[16:15] <knome> alternatively, you can simply back up your data and do a fresh install
[16:15] <knome> which might save you some time and hassle
[16:31] <irgendwer4711> hi, any way to check which new version of installed packages I would get with 14.10. ?
[16:32] <knome> irgendwer4711, wait for the release announcement/notes
[16:33] <irgendwer4711> knome: I thought of a tool or command
[16:33] <xubuntu84o> I update /etc/apt/sources.list with my codename substituted... still no luck.  It is not finding the upgrades for some reason, any other ideas?
[16:33] <knome> irgendwer4711, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[16:33] <knome> xubuntu84o, to what did you change it to?
[16:34] <irgendwer4711> knome: this is for a query of one package. I want to check all
[16:35] <xubuntu84o> I changed the codename that was listed under lsp_release -a. Everything else I followed from the link you provided.
[16:36] <xubuntu84o> I changed it to *
[16:36] <knome> xubuntu84o, then you haven't read the article correctly
[16:38] <xubuntu84o> Sorry, im a newb to linux. That is how I interpreted this sentence, "Please make sure you have the following sources.list, change CODENAME to your release, e.g. breezy." I would find my release with lsp_release -a, would I not?
[16:39] <xubuntu84o> Or is it supposed to be the release I want to update to?
[16:39] <knome> yes, it's supposed to be the target release
[16:40] <knome> but please make sure you have backups..
[16:41] <xubuntu84o> I do. Thanks for the help.
[17:36] <xubuntu46w> How do i add a background/ wallpaper ? i down loaded one for ubuntu, but don't know how to add it.
[17:37] <knome> xubuntu46w, check the documentation under "Settings and Preferences" -> "Customizing the appearance"
[18:55] <xubuntu044> s
[19:01] <qwertz_> how do kde programs integrate into xfce these days?
[19:01] <qwertz_> still different look and feel?
[19:01] <qwertz_> i'm thinking of trying kontact
[19:04] <xubuntu39w> Hello!.. Have you guys had an issue with the new kernel and the display? It seems that as soon as the kernel has been updated the display connected to VGA went blank..
[19:04] <qwertz_> xubuntu044,  nope - everything fine here (14.04)
[19:05] <qwertz_> which graphics card are you using?
[19:06] <xubuntu39w> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:06] <xubuntu39w> is that any helpful?
[19:06] <xubuntu39w> Kernel is 3.13.0-37-generic
[19:07] <xubuntu39w> DVI1 is working but the VGA1 is not..
[19:08] <qwertz_> okay, can't test VGA here
[19:47] <bmsdave> Hello World!
[19:47] <knome> hello
[19:48] <kosmas> Hello
[19:50]  * genii waves feebly
[19:50] <bmsdave> thanks! this is only for testing)
[19:52] <Alexfrench> hello
[19:52] <knome> hello
[19:53] <Alexfrench> i am trying xubuntu on virtualbox and i am stuck on 640*480 resolution ??
[19:53] <Alexfrench> hp dv7 with ati radeon card
[19:53] <Unit193> It's virtualbox, install the guest additions (In Additional Drivers), and be done with it.
[19:55] <Alexfrench> ok thanks i'll try
[19:56] <Alexfrench> should i use synaptic ??
[19:57] <sushith> yep
[19:59] <Alexfrench> ok
[19:59] <Naphatul> any help with this? http://kopy.io/xdeF0#kpq7hgZJ8BXDXq
[19:59] <Naphatul> i upgraded to 14.10 and steam is complaining that there is no direct rendering
[20:10] <kosmas> any hep on this please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/540333/2nd-monitor-connected-to-vga1-went-blank
[20:12] <Naphatul> are the 32 and 64 bits of those supposed to conflict?
[20:12] <Naphatul> *packages
[20:34] <Sia-> hi
[20:35] <knome> hello
[20:35] <Sia-> hi, it's possible to stop autohide in dock on xubuntu 14.4
[20:36] <Sia-> i don't like auto hide option, it should be like on MacOSX. it's possible or not? thnx again
[20:37] <knome> yes, right-click the panel, select panel -> panel preferences and there uncheck the autoshow/hide option
[20:38] <Alexfrench> is there a irc client in xubuntu ??
[20:38] <Alexfrench> i have pigdin but i don't know how it is working
[20:38] <Sia-> knome, thnx i did few times, i think it's buggy! but any way thanx
[20:38] <knome> Alexfrench, you can install an irc client from the repositories, some options are xchat and hexchat
[20:39] <knome> Sia-, in what way?
[20:39] <Sia-> Alexfrench, why not xchat?
[20:39] <Alexfrench> i don't know i am just asking, i know it i use it on pc
[20:40] <Alexfrench> xchat is freeware on xubuntu ?
[20:40] <Sia-> knome, because after check/uncheck for few times and restarting the panel "xfwm4 --replace & disown" now working well
[20:40] <Sia-> Alexfrench, yes it's free like free Beer :-D
[20:40] <Alexfrench> thanks
[20:40] <Sia-> apt-get install xchat
[20:41] <Sia-> it's most popular irc client on linux distros
[20:45] <bazhang> actually hexchat is the one to install
[20:48] <CajunTechie> bazhang, why do you prefer hexchat?
[20:49] <knome> hexchat is maintained, xchat is not
[20:49] <Sia-> bazhang, thanx, i'm actually outdated with new stuff. looking great
[20:49] <elfy> unless you get fed up with it resizing when you search in channels or that ctrl+a to away fails
[20:49] <CajunTechie> Umm, yeah, I'd forgotten abou tthat.
[20:49] <Sia-> knome, that's right
[20:50]  * elfy moved from xchat to hexchat to xchat 
[20:52] <bazhang> the hexchat developer is also online very often
[20:56] <alexandra_> hello all
[20:56] <knome> hello
[20:56] <alexandra_> hourra on xubuntu on virtualbox
[20:57] <alexandra_> with xchat
[20:59] <knome> congrats
[20:59] <Naphatul> anyone elses qt theming break? vlc and clementine are unthemed now
[20:59] <elfy> Naphatul: I get that - install qt-config - set theme to gtk+
[21:02] <Naphatul> elfy, from what package?
[21:03] <alexandra_> thanks
[21:03] <alexandra_> goodnight all
[21:04] <elfy> Naphatul: sorry - qt4-qtconfig
[21:21] <nyuszika7h> how can I use English month and day names rather than Hungarian?
[21:21] <nyuszika7h> the system locale is English but dates are in Hungarian, but not even a valid format
[21:21] <nyuszika7h> "23 okt"
[21:22] <nyuszika7h> would be "okt. 23." anyway
[21:24] <nyuszika7h> found it
[21:25] <sushith> settings->time and date settings
[21:25] <nyuszika7h> it isn't there, I already looked, it's in language support -> reginonal
[21:25] <nyuszika7h> *regional
[21:27] <sushith> thanks
[21:58] <LinusTorvaldII> i read an article on the internet today which stated xubuntu uses the same amount or ram (actually slightly more) than ubuntu? is this true?
[22:07] <LinusTorvaldII> of ram*
[22:41] <GridCube> it probably is
[22:41] <GridCube> or maybe not, why don't you check?
[22:58] <fdfgfgdf> DL'd 14.10 installed to USB stick, booted and started playing...er...testing.  I noticed that image files (at least jpg's) all state that restretto is the default app, but Open with GIMP is the initial entry on a rightclick menu, and always the app to open the image file when double clicking. Changing the  "Open With" has no effect. I checked the release notes, etc. and saw nothing about this problem.  Will this occur on install also or is this a Live USB 
[23:19] <brainwash> fdfgfgdf: that's bug 1382977
[23:19] <fdfgfgdf> brainwash: Thanks.
[23:24] <fdfgfgdf> But no one thought to include this in the known issues?  It's not like clicking on file icons to open them in thunar is something done once in a blue moon :(
[23:54] <phenom> Is there a plan to address the first "known issue" in 14.04 release? e.g., Xfce4 Power Manager does not restore screen power (1259339). You can try running xrandr, which has worked as a problem-free workaround for some users.
[23:54] <phenom> @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu
[23:56] <phenom> ahh
[23:56] <phenom> forgive me.. http://xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/ rather