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valorieare we not offering torrent files for the plasma5 ISOs?04:23
palassoHi there. I think the download links don't work for 14.10 Plasma 505:37
valoriewhat happens when you try, palasso?05:37
palassoIt says 405 Not Allowed05:37
palassovalorie: btw I listened to your interview on last LUP, it was awesome :)05:38
valorieunfortunately, canonical decided at the last minute not to host the images05:38
valoriehopefully our alternate host didn't die under the pressure05:38
valorieRiddell will be up in a few hours and will fix I hope05:39
palassoI was searching for a torrent and noticed there wasn't any. (in the other sections there is a torrent section)05:39
valorieyes, so was I 05:39
valorieI seed all the torrents for *buntu05:39
valoriewanted to seed that as well05:39
palassovalorie: You have a very nice voice, I enjoyed your interview and I really liked the post you did after LUP for some info about Kubuntu and its future :)05:40
valoriethank you!05:42
valorieit was enjoyable05:42
palassoI'm watching LAS and LUP regularly, I'm in their IRC channel, in the subreddit and some times in the mumble room :)05:42
valorieI hope to begin hanging out in the mumble chan at least05:43
valorietime is always scarce05:43
palassoAhhh we might bump into each other :)05:44
soeegood morning06:12
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valoriehmmm, where shall I file a bug? this in the 14.10/plasma5 session: http://paste.kde.org/p4fdyivdb07:11
valoriegrrr, pasting isn't working well either07:12
valorieannoying07:12
valorieI'm also seeing rather extreme flickering when I change applications07:13
valoriefreaky07:13
valoriethis is an older laptop07:13
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.14.1 on Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) powered by Linux 3.16.0-23-generic, CPU: AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-74 at 550/2200 MHz, RAM: 2246/3793 MB, Storage: 390/683 GB, 194 procs, 0.76h up07:13
valoriealso, people with access to the website, please look at #kubuntu -- people are reporting wrong links & wrong hashes07:16
valoriealso, do we have torrents for the plasma5 ISO?07:17
soeevalorie: Bluskay also reported yesterday that he could not use some copy/paste functions not sure if it was context menu or shortcuts07:18
soeebut they works fine for me here07:18
valorieI changed the default for klipper, which for some odd reason is to ignore selections07:19
valoriebut I have to select and control-c before it works07:19
valoriereally annoying07:19
valorieRiddell: I couldn't get kwin to crash again on the netbook which is good07:20
valoriedidn't see the flickering there either, so I assume it is the graphics card/driver on this old lappy07:20
lordievaderGood morning.07:49
nicolafHi all. For the kubuntu.org admins: I think there is a problem with the bitTorrent links in http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu . When i click the  .torrent links i get the .iso file08:14
valoriethanks for reporting that, nicolaf08:18
valoriehopefully people who have access to the server will be here and active soon08:18
valorienicolaf: all the torrents are available here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/08:20
billbo^^ mkumar:  To be clear you mean the torrents for the 14.10 release.   I see that problem as well.   The 14.04 torrent links appear to be correct.08:22
nicolafi solved using the mirrors08:23
nicolafthe problem is also in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/ if i click the .torrent link08:24
nicolafthe path of the torrent file http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent is correct but the file served is wrong08:24
sheytanRiddell: hey. The download for tech prv plasma 5 is broken08:35
sheytani get 'not allowed' when try to download08:35
valoriesomeone else said they couldn't get it either08:39
valorieread up in #kubuntu08:39
* valorie goes to bed - SeaGL will fill my friday & saturday08:40
mkumarRIddell: plasma 5 iso download link is not working09:16
palassomkumar: yeap already like 3 of us reported it.09:21
lordievaderPerhaps Riddell is in hiding today :P09:21
ShalokShalomthe plasma 5 links are not working, is the server down ? http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu09:42
ShalokShalomwhat is the difference beetween the current daily builds and this offical release ? I see different md5sums09:43
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Riddellhola todos10:43
Riddellshadeslayer: ping?10:44
lordievaderHey Riddell, bad news.10:44
lordievaderRiddell: On the website the .torrent links to the .iso's and the links to plasma5 iso's is broken. Had numerours reports.10:45
Riddellhttp://mirror.iskrembilen.com/ working now for me for palsma 510:47
Riddellbut I'll see if shadeslayer can move them to files.kde.org10:47
lordievaderRiddell: I'm just passing on what I've seen in here ;)10:48
Riddelltorrents being isos is weird, I'll ask other release team types10:48
shadeslayerRiddell: I think torrents being ISO's was reported on reddit as well10:49
nicolafhi, an example of wrong .torrent link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent found in http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu10:50
Riddellah reddit, I knew we'd made a mistake with this bugzilla and launchpad malone nonsense, we should be using reddit as our bug tracker :)10:50
Riddellnicolaf: yeah I see it, most strange10:50
shadeslayerhaha10:50
shadeslayeranyway10:50
kfunkdoes someone feel like packaging qwt-6.1 (Qt5-based) so I can use it? :)10:51
Riddellshadeslayer: so can we put the plasma5 images on files.kde.org ?10:51
shadeslayerRiddell: right, I'm on it10:51
Riddellthanks10:51
shadeslayerRiddell: where can I find the images?10:51
shadeslayeras in10:52
shadeslayera server that allows me to rsync10:52
Riddellshadeslayer: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-plasma5/10:52
shadeslayerok10:52
Riddell/home/kubuntu/qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-plasma510:52
mkumar_http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.10/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent is working10:52
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Riddellmkumar: uber weird10:52
Riddellbut good, I'll update the website10:52
bukaiRiddell: my kidentity group is user how can I get developer access?10:54
Riddellmkumar: fixed thanks (but please double check)10:54
Riddellbukai: you just need a good reason, what's the reason?10:55
kfunkRiddell or shadeslayer: seriously though, what's the easiest way to get qwt-6.1 packaged? want to create a bug report?10:56
bukaiI want to take part in SoK and finish the developement of test.kubuntu.co.uk and also I have to finish the porting of klettres10:56
Riddellkubotu: newversion qwt 6.110:56
Riddell...10:56
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/138518510:56
Riddellkfunk: voila :) ↑10:56
shadeslayer test.kubuntu.co.uk is all red /o\10:56
bukaiRiddell: ^^10:57
Riddellshadeslayer: ovidiu-florin was playing with themes10:57
Riddellbukai: test.kubuntu.co.uk isn't on kde infrastructure so that's quite separate10:57
soeeRiddell: also add kdetelepathy to dodos :D10:57
shadeslayerok10:57
mkumarRiddell: working correctly :)10:58
soeebtw Riddell nice talk yesterday10:58
Riddellkfunk: someone will get to it shortly I'm sure, sgclark quite likely is good at that sort of thing10:58
kfunkawesome10:58
bukaiRiddell: can I participate in SoK without the developer access?10:59
Riddellbukai: for klettres that's part of kdeedu so proove yourself worth to some kdeedu developers and they'll welcome you with open arms10:59
Riddellbukai: yeah I don't think SoK is related to indentity.kde.org developer11:00
bukaiRiddell: Ok, btw about the SoK proposal is just submitting it fine or should I mail you the same?11:01
soeesomeone can take a look on #kubuntu and what the user is raporting ?11:01
soeeim noit familiar with this errors11:02
Riddellbukai: would be good if you e-mailed me a copy too so we're sure we're talking about the same thing :)11:18
bukaiRiddell: ok11:18
Riddellsoee: he says everything is working fine so we'll assume it's all good11:18
bukaiovidiu-florin , Riddell have you guys decided on the theme to be used?11:19
Riddellbukai: nope, that'll be part of your task :)11:20
* Riddell lunches11:20
Riddellshadeslayer: still copying?12:39
shadeslayeryep12:39
shadeslayeruploading now12:40
shadeslayergoing to take a bit12:40
Riddellyou need faster interwebs :)12:41
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah, upload is only 500 KBps here12:45
BluesKajHowdy folks12:58
sgclarkmorning12:59
Riddellhola sgclark, high five for the interview yesterday13:02
sgclark:) choked up a few times, but I am making progress on my whole shyness thing lol13:07
Riddelldoing more of that sort of thing will help13:07
Riddelland knowing what to prepare in advance13:08
sgclarkyep13:08
RiddellI recommend giving talks at conferences, it's a good challenge but worth it13:08
sgclarkyeah sorry , got cuaght up in the whole release thing and failed there, but will do better in the future!13:09
Riddellwe were awesome13:09
sgclark:)13:10
Riddellbukai: are you on the kubuntu-devel mailing list?13:18
bukaiRiddell: no i am not in the mailing list13:31
Riddellbukai: sign up :)13:32
Riddelloh and install kubuntu :)13:32
bukaiRiddell:  i was using kubuntu untill my system crashed. Will switch back to kubuntu . 13:35
_Groo_Riddell: can you help me, i want to move https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-snapshot/1:3.6~svn215195-1 to my ppa, so i can recompile mesa with it13:38
_Groo_Riddell: is there any way to copy it automatically, like we do for normal ppas?13:38
Riddell_Groo_: not that I know of but if you want to recompile it you'll need to download the source package and fiddle the settings and upload it to the ppa13:41
_Groo_Riddell: yeah i figured that much... bummer13:41
_Groo_Riddell: oh well, some work for the weekend13:41
_Groo_there is no bluetooth support in plasma 5.1 yet?13:54
willigoHello! I recently came across KDE Season and I wish to know more about it. Particularly `Project: Finish test.kubuntu.co.uk`. Is this the right place to do so?13:58
Riddellhi willigo, I'm afraid it seems like bukai already has that project14:02
Riddellwilligo: remind me again the wiki page, I should edit it to say so14:02
willigoRiddell: is there anything else I can do to contribute? 14:03
Riddellof course kde.org badly also needs a decent website but that's as much a social problem as a technical one14:03
Riddellmake planet.kde.org better, that's easier socially14:03
Riddellneeds both arty design and technical skills14:04
willigoRiddell: I'm great with UI design and I know a good amount of PHP and Django. Can I take this up as a project?14:04
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Riddellwilligo: so planet.kde.org could do with..14:09
Riddella new look and feel to fit in with breeze artwork14:09
Riddella responsive layout so it can be read on mobile devices14:09
Riddelllinks to social media for each person14:10
Riddellworking out how to bring back the microblog feed for twitter posts14:10
Riddell(and maybe g+ and facebook posts if their APIs allow it)14:11
Riddelland replacing the stupid feed on www.kde.org with one from planet kde14:11
willigoSure! I can do this!14:11
Riddellit's written in python using a program called rawdog which I suspect it unmaintained14:11
Riddellalso there's some random extra planet sites like the kde pim planet which I suspect are largely unused and should be merged into the main one with feed classes or something14:12
willigoWhat exactly is pim?14:13
Riddellstupid name for Kontact, e-mail and calendering stuff14:13
willigoAh! Alright14:14
genii"personal information manager"14:14
shadeslayer^14:14
shadeslayerRiddell: http://files.kde.org/snapshots/kubuntu-plasma5/14:14
Riddellawooga14:15
Riddellshadeslayer: delete HEADER.html~ to be tidy :)14:15
Riddellshadeslayer: feeling any better?14:16
shadeslayerRiddell: throat's alot better14:16
shadeslayeroverall, getting better by every hour14:17
shadeslayeras long as I keep myself medicated14:17
willigoSo, I guess all I'd have to do is develop a new good looking-mobile friendly UI with a backend that allows blogging and integration with social media, right?14:17
Riddellthat's a good sign, keep drinking lots, get some rest and also some fresh air14:17
nicon`Hi all :-) Got kubuntu14.10 with plasma 5 and I have two questions:14:17
nicon`1st: is is possible to extend main panel to both monitors?14:17
nicon`2nd: Does tray work correctly? I can't find my programms there (skype, thunderbird).14:18
shadeslayerRiddell: yep14:18
Riddellwilligo: look at the setup we have now, I wouldn't expect to change away from using rawdog it seems to work nicely, just additions to it to have links to social media et al14:18
Riddellnicon`: user questions best in #kubuntu or #kde14:18
nicon`Riddell: yeah, but plasma 5 is not supported in #kubuntu ;-)14:19
willigoRiddell: Alrighty then, I guess I can figure out rawdog14:20
willigoRiddell: And I think rawdog is being mantianed these days. I see the last change date as 19-Oct-14 here http://offog.org/git/rawdog.git/14:22
Riddellwilligo: ok so you can also look at updating to current rawdog14:23
Sick_RimmitHi Riddell and sgclark Thanks for your time, and input yesterday. I think it was a Brilliant show, so good to talk to you both14:24
Riddellnicon`: hmm says who?14:24
willigoRiddell: Alright! So, should I draft a proposal here? https://season.kde.org/?q=program_home&prg=3214:24
RiddellSick_Rimmit: now you have to become an elite packager in return :)14:24
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nicon`16:01:22 < BluesKaj> ahh, lots of things don't work on 5, it's not supported here , try #kubuntu-devel14:24
nicon`;-)14:24
Sick_RimmitAh yes, sgclark is going to help me, I will be starting in the evenings next week14:25
Sick_RimmitAlso I think John and I are planning now to come to Akademy next year too14:25
Riddellnicon`: hmm, we should get our story straight about that14:26
RiddellSick_Rimmit: awooga14:26
* BluesKaj hides :)14:26
bukaiRiddell: I have requested for subscribing to the kubuntu-devel mailing list.Btw today I saw 250+ people were using the kubuntu.org at one point! 14:26
Sick_RimmitOnce the show is edited, and posted as an MP3 to the site, I will give you a nudge14:26
RiddellSick_Rimmit: also may be worth coming to FOSDEM in february, and hey we have a meeting in munich next month all welcome14:27
Sick_RimmitI am  Definetly up for FOSDEM14:27
Riddellwho else does stuff in #kubuntu ?14:27
Riddellvalorie, lordievader, BluesKaj: should plasma 5 questions be valid in #kubuntu ?14:28
RiddellI think they should as long as it's also allowed to answer "well tech preview so don't expect too much"14:28
Riddellwilligo: yeah go for it14:28
BluesKajRiddell, my mistake, i shouldn't have said "not supported", I should have said something similar to your quote above14:29
RiddellBluesKaj: ach it does say not suported in various places on the download so it's not incorrect14:30
willigoRiddell: Awesome! Thanks14:30
Riddellvalorie: how do I accept a project on season.kde.org ?14:30
apacheloggerRiddell: seeing as pretty much all problems with the plasma5 iso will be future problems I think the ultimate leave-me-alone reply possilby should be 'file a bug' instead of 'tech preview'?14:31
BluesKajRiddell, ok it's a grey area, but I'll refrain from telling users it's not supported in #kubuntu anyway14:31
Riddelladded to topic in #kubuntu14:34
Riddellapachelogger: what's the difference between unstable-i386-latest.iso and kubuntu-plasma5-201410170848-i386.iso on http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ ?14:35
Riddellapachelogger: now that utopic is out and kubuntu-ci is rolling should we scrap neon ?14:35
shadeslayersymlink14:36
apacheloggerRiddell: symlinks14:37
apacheloggerRiddell: neon had lots of build failures today,s o I would not object to killing14:37
apacheloggerOTOH that means 14.04 users can not test things anymore14:37
Riddellkubotu: newversion gtk2-engines-oxygen 1.4.614:37
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/138531614:38
apacheloggerthen again I'd argue that its more long-term useful if they test production packaging on 14.10 anyway14:38
shadeslayer^^14:38
RiddellBluesKaj: so one useful answer to "I found a bug in kubuntu-plasma5" would be "please see if it's fixed in kubuntu-ci and then report a bug http://files.kde.org/snapshots/"14:39
Riddellmaybe we should have a factoid for that14:39
BluesKajRiddell, yeah, a factoid would be good, thanks.14:40
lordievaderRiddell: Is it still part of project neon?14:40
RiddellBluesKaj: any idea how I make one?14:41
Riddelllordievader: neon has been replaced by kubuntu-ci but it's a similar concept, packages made daily from git, cd images made weekly14:41
BluesKajRiddell, sorry I did know at one time, but it's been a while :)14:41
Riddellapachelogger, shadeslayer: isn't the name kubuntu-plasma5-201410170848-i386.iso confusing? would it not be better to call it kubuntu-ci-xx.iso ?14:42
RiddellTm_T: how do I make an irc factoid thing in #kubuntu14:42
Riddell?14:42
lordievaderHmm, okay I guess my idea of Neon was different from what it actually is. Else I'd say do the support of plasma5 in #project-neon.14:42
Riddellsomething like !plasma5 Kubuntu Plasma5 is in tech preview, thanks for testing, if you find a bug you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ and report to bugs.kde.org14:43
nicon`Okay, got skype icon working in tray (plasma5)... Now it would be nice to get it working for thunderbird, any advices? :-)14:43
Riddellnicon`: what did you have to do?14:43
nicon`I did many things, but probably what worked was installing sni-qt:i38614:44
Riddellnicon`: oh and you're on amd64 but skype is i386 multiarch14:44
Riddellsilly skype, whyever can't they build on amd64?14:45
nicon`Exactly.14:45
nicon`True :-)14:45
BluesKajRiddell,   jussi01 is in cahrge of thge ubottu database, but check this out..scroll down to "suggest a factoid",  http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/UbuntuBots?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=add+factoid&titlesearch=Titles14:51
apacheloggerRiddell: well, yes, no, maybe, no :P14:51
Riddelllordievader: it's just a different system, it does much the same thing as neon but integrates with kubuntu and debian packaging14:51
Riddellapachelogger: which answer to which question?14:51
apacheloggerRiddell: kubuntu-ci-xx.iso for name14:51
apacheloggercurrently the iso is kubuntu-plasma5-desktop, hence the name14:51
Riddellhttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ now has links to kubuntu ci, vivid bugs and kubuntu-plasma5 source14:52
apacheloggerwhen that changes I might be inclined to change the iso name, right now it's a bit meh14:52
apacheloggeralso technically the iso name at some point would need to change to reflect unstable vs. stable14:53
apacheloggerRiddell: feel free to drop your thoughts in a mail to kubuntu-devel so we don't forget :P14:53
Riddellhmm, qa server is running slow14:53
Riddellthis doesn't bode well for moving kubuntu.org to it14:53
Riddellwell not much cpu or memory usage14:54
RiddellI wonder what "/usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/run/saslauthd -n 2" is14:54
Riddellhmm, something to do with e-mail, that makes me nervous14:55
RiddellBluesKaj: ach I just get Tm_T to sort out all the irc stuff :)14:56
bukaiovidiu-florin: ping14:56
BluesKajRiddell, ok, sounds good14:59
Riddellsgclark: any reply from canonical sysadmins about your rt@ request to update the theme?15:00
* ScottK guesses "no".15:17
BluesKajheh, next kubuntu release 15.04 is a friggin' monkey ...vivid vervet, now i'm convinced shuttleworth is losing it :)15:21
RiddellRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/py2stqaxs15:22
Riddellsgclark: the gtk-oxygen engine updates might be nice to start Sick_Rimmit with15:27
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: I'm up for this..15:28
Riddelloh and if you need an ec2 to start let me know15:28
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: Think the time diff will close by 1 hour too, as our clocks go back 1 hour at 00:00 on Sunday15:30
Sick_RimmitI'll be ready to go on Monday evening, at 19:3015:30
sgclarkSick_Rimmit: sounds good15:32
sgclarkRiddell: they said you put in a similiar request shortly after mine... so no15:36
Riddellsgclark: um no, I put a similar request before yours which was what broke it in the first place15:40
Riddellnew kubuntu shirts! http://www.hellotux.com/kubuntu15:42
apacheloggeryeh15:43
sgclarkRiddell: ok sent a reply that I confirmed with you that my fix needs to be applied.15:49
sgclarkRiddell: yes I have found that having my email services on the same server as the website is a very bad idea.15:53
DarthFrogHi folks.  I'm trying to run OSSPD to get a true /dev/dsp.  It works fine in Trusty but not in Utopic, where I get "CUSE: failed to register chrdev region".  Is this a bug I need to report?16:38
Sick_RimmitDarthFrog: Does this help at all http://ubuntu.aspcode.net/view/635400140124705175473272/unable-to-install-osspd16:40
DarthFrogSick_Rimmit:  No.  it's not an inability to install osspd, it's that osspd is unable to run.16:42
DarthFrogOK, i guess I'll file a bug report.  Oh frabjous joy, time to run the gauntlet in a hair shirt again. :-(16:42
Sick_RimmitDarthFrog: Yep OK, report a bug, with how to replicate, and I will take a look..16:43
DarthFrogOK., thanks.16:49
ovidiu-florinbukai: pong17:09
bukaiovidiu-florin: Hi, I was playing with drupal so that I could understand the existing code. I liked it a lot. I wanted to know why are we shifting to wordpress?17:12
ovidiu-florinfor ease of maintainance17:12
bukaiok, thanks.17:13
marcuzzoI just updated to Kubuntu 14.10 and I'd like to port my KDE application to KF5 do you suggest to install plasma 5 ?18:25
rdietermarcuzzo: if your purpose is solely for kf5 porting, then plasma5 is not required (ie, kf5 applications should run fine on kde4)18:27
marcuzzoI need a QT5 KF5 development enviroment where I have to compile  my application is it already install in Kubuntu 14.10?18:32
Tm_TRiddell: you can suggest factoid by saying "ubottu foobar is foo and bar"19:31
genii!foobar19:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about foobar19:33
Riddellubottu: plasma5 is Kubuntu Plasma5 is in tech preview, thanks for testing, if you find a bug you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ and report to bugs.kde.org19:35
Riddell20:35 <ubottu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail19:36
RiddellTm_T: op away!19:36
Tm_TRiddell: Pici was quicker (:19:36
Tm_Tand rww19:36
* Tm_T loves how nicely community response on these19:37
rww!plasma519:39
ubottuKubuntu Plasma 5 is a tech preview. To test it out, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ . If you find a bug, you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds.19:39
rwwapologies if that cleanup introduced inaccuracies, feel free to poke me if so19:40
Tm_TI go take care of a family, see you later19:40
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lordievaderYayy, plasma5 factoid :)20:04
_Groo_dont kill the messenger but do you guys have any news on the plasma-next daily ppa? or weekly at least?20:31
_Groo_one thing is to use neon, another is to update the plasma-next20:31
_Groo_guys what are the new invocations to build cmake packages? im using dh $@ --buildsystem cmake --parallel without sucess20:52
_Groo_nvm21:08
_Groo_i was doing it right, the code was messed up :P21:10

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