[04:23] are we not offering torrent files for the plasma5 ISOs? [05:37] Hi there. I think the download links don't work for 14.10 Plasma 5 [05:37] what happens when you try, palasso? [05:37] It says 405 Not Allowed [05:38] valorie: btw I listened to your interview on last LUP, it was awesome :) [05:38] unfortunately, canonical decided at the last minute not to host the images [05:38] hopefully our alternate host didn't die under the pressure [05:39] Riddell will be up in a few hours and will fix I hope [05:39] I was searching for a torrent and noticed there wasn't any. (in the other sections there is a torrent section) [05:39] yes, so was I [05:39] I seed all the torrents for *buntu [05:39] wanted to seed that as well [05:40] valorie: You have a very nice voice, I enjoyed your interview and I really liked the post you did after LUP for some info about Kubuntu and its future :) [05:42] thank you! [05:42] it was enjoyable [05:42] I'm watching LAS and LUP regularly, I'm in their IRC channel, in the subreddit and some times in the mumble room :) [05:43] I hope to begin hanging out in the mumble chan at least [05:43] time is always scarce [05:44] Ahhh we might bump into each other :) [06:12] good morning === inetpro_ is now known as inetpro [07:11] hmmm, where shall I file a bug? this in the 14.10/plasma5 session: http://paste.kde.org/p4fdyivdb [07:12] grrr, pasting isn't working well either [07:12] annoying [07:13] I'm also seeing rather extreme flickering when I change applications [07:13] freaky [07:13] this is an older laptop [07:13] Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.14.1 on Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) powered by Linux 3.16.0-23-generic, CPU: AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-74 at 550/2200 MHz, RAM: 2246/3793 MB, Storage: 390/683 GB, 194 procs, 0.76h up [07:16] also, people with access to the website, please look at #kubuntu -- people are reporting wrong links & wrong hashes [07:17] also, do we have torrents for the plasma5 ISO? [07:18] valorie: Bluskay also reported yesterday that he could not use some copy/paste functions not sure if it was context menu or shortcuts [07:18] but they works fine for me here [07:19] I changed the default for klipper, which for some odd reason is to ignore selections [07:19] but I have to select and control-c before it works [07:19] really annoying [07:20] Riddell: I couldn't get kwin to crash again on the netbook which is good [07:20] didn't see the flickering there either, so I assume it is the graphics card/driver on this old lappy [07:49] Good morning. [08:14] Hi all. For the kubuntu.org admins: I think there is a problem with the bitTorrent links in http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu . When i click the .torrent links i get the .iso file [08:18] thanks for reporting that, nicolaf [08:18] hopefully people who have access to the server will be here and active soon [08:20] nicolaf: all the torrents are available here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [08:22] ^^ mkumar: To be clear you mean the torrents for the 14.10 release. I see that problem as well. The 14.04 torrent links appear to be correct. [08:23] i solved using the mirrors [08:24] the problem is also in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/ if i click the .torrent link [08:24] the path of the torrent file http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent is correct but the file served is wrong [08:35] Riddell: hey. The download for tech prv plasma 5 is broken [08:35] i get 'not allowed' when try to download [08:39] someone else said they couldn't get it either [08:39] read up in #kubuntu [08:40] * valorie goes to bed - SeaGL will fill my friday & saturday [09:16] RIddell: plasma 5 iso download link is not working [09:21] mkumar: yeap already like 3 of us reported it. [09:21] Perhaps Riddell is in hiding today :P [09:42] the plasma 5 links are not working, is the server down ? http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu [09:43] what is the difference beetween the current daily builds and this offical release ? I see different md5sums === mkumar_ is now known as mkumar [10:43] hola todos [10:44] shadeslayer: ping? [10:44] Hey Riddell, bad news. [10:45] Riddell: On the website the .torrent links to the .iso's and the links to plasma5 iso's is broken. Had numerours reports. [10:47] http://mirror.iskrembilen.com/ working now for me for palsma 5 [10:47] but I'll see if shadeslayer can move them to files.kde.org [10:48] Riddell: I'm just passing on what I've seen in here ;) [10:48] torrents being isos is weird, I'll ask other release team types [10:49] Riddell: I think torrents being ISO's was reported on reddit as well [10:50] hi, an example of wrong .torrent link http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent found in http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu [10:50] ah reddit, I knew we'd made a mistake with this bugzilla and launchpad malone nonsense, we should be using reddit as our bug tracker :) [10:50] nicolaf: yeah I see it, most strange [10:50] haha [10:50] anyway [10:51] does someone feel like packaging qwt-6.1 (Qt5-based) so I can use it? :) [10:51] shadeslayer: so can we put the plasma5 images on files.kde.org ? [10:51] Riddell: right, I'm on it [10:51] thanks [10:51] Riddell: where can I find the images? [10:52] as in [10:52] a server that allows me to rsync [10:52] shadeslayer: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-plasma5/ [10:52] ok [10:52] /home/kubuntu/qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-plasma5 [10:52] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.10/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent is working === mkumar_ is now known as mkumar [10:52] mkumar: uber weird [10:52] but good, I'll update the website [10:54] Riddell: my kidentity group is user how can I get developer access? [10:54] mkumar: fixed thanks (but please double check) [10:55] bukai: you just need a good reason, what's the reason? [10:56] Riddell or shadeslayer: seriously though, what's the easiest way to get qwt-6.1 packaged? want to create a bug report? [10:56] I want to take part in SoK and finish the developement of test.kubuntu.co.uk and also I have to finish the porting of klettres [10:56] kubotu: newversion qwt 6.1 [10:56] ... [10:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1385185 [10:56] kfunk: voila :) ↑ [10:56] test.kubuntu.co.uk is all red /o\ [10:57] Riddell: ^^ [10:57] shadeslayer: ovidiu-florin was playing with themes [10:57] bukai: test.kubuntu.co.uk isn't on kde infrastructure so that's quite separate [10:57] Riddell: also add kdetelepathy to dodos :D [10:57] ok [10:58] Riddell: working correctly :) [10:58] btw Riddell nice talk yesterday [10:58] kfunk: someone will get to it shortly I'm sure, sgclark quite likely is good at that sort of thing [10:58] awesome [10:59] Riddell: can I participate in SoK without the developer access? [10:59] bukai: for klettres that's part of kdeedu so proove yourself worth to some kdeedu developers and they'll welcome you with open arms [11:00] bukai: yeah I don't think SoK is related to indentity.kde.org developer [11:01] Riddell: Ok, btw about the SoK proposal is just submitting it fine or should I mail you the same? [11:01] someone can take a look on #kubuntu and what the user is raporting ? [11:02] im noit familiar with this errors [11:18] bukai: would be good if you e-mailed me a copy too so we're sure we're talking about the same thing :) [11:18] Riddell: ok [11:18] soee: he says everything is working fine so we'll assume it's all good [11:19] ovidiu-florin , Riddell have you guys decided on the theme to be used? [11:20] bukai: nope, that'll be part of your task :) [11:20] * Riddell lunches [12:39] shadeslayer: still copying? [12:39] yep [12:40] uploading now [12:40] going to take a bit [12:41] you need faster interwebs :) [12:45] Riddell: yeah, upload is only 500 KBps here [12:58] Howdy folks [12:59] morning [13:02] hola sgclark, high five for the interview yesterday [13:07] :) choked up a few times, but I am making progress on my whole shyness thing lol [13:07] doing more of that sort of thing will help [13:08] and knowing what to prepare in advance [13:08] yep [13:08] I recommend giving talks at conferences, it's a good challenge but worth it [13:09] yeah sorry , got cuaght up in the whole release thing and failed there, but will do better in the future! [13:09] we were awesome [13:10] :) [13:18] bukai: are you on the kubuntu-devel mailing list? [13:31] Riddell: no i am not in the mailing list [13:32] bukai: sign up :) [13:32] oh and install kubuntu :) [13:35] Riddell: i was using kubuntu untill my system crashed. Will switch back to kubuntu . [13:38] <_Groo_> Riddell: can you help me, i want to move https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-snapshot/1:3.6~svn215195-1 to my ppa, so i can recompile mesa with it [13:38] <_Groo_> Riddell: is there any way to copy it automatically, like we do for normal ppas? [13:41] _Groo_: not that I know of but if you want to recompile it you'll need to download the source package and fiddle the settings and upload it to the ppa [13:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah i figured that much... bummer [13:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: oh well, some work for the weekend [13:54] <_Groo_> there is no bluetooth support in plasma 5.1 yet? [13:58] Hello! I recently came across KDE Season and I wish to know more about it. Particularly `Project: Finish test.kubuntu.co.uk`. Is this the right place to do so? [14:02] hi willigo, I'm afraid it seems like bukai already has that project [14:02] willigo: remind me again the wiki page, I should edit it to say so [14:03] Riddell: is there anything else I can do to contribute? [14:03] of course kde.org badly also needs a decent website but that's as much a social problem as a technical one [14:03] make planet.kde.org better, that's easier socially [14:04] needs both arty design and technical skills [14:04] Riddell: I'm great with UI design and I know a good amount of PHP and Django. Can I take this up as a project? === claydoh is now known as Guest18287 [14:09] willigo: so planet.kde.org could do with.. [14:09] a new look and feel to fit in with breeze artwork [14:09] a responsive layout so it can be read on mobile devices [14:10] links to social media for each person [14:10] working out how to bring back the microblog feed for twitter posts [14:11] (and maybe g+ and facebook posts if their APIs allow it) [14:11] and replacing the stupid feed on www.kde.org with one from planet kde [14:11] Sure! I can do this! [14:11] it's written in python using a program called rawdog which I suspect it unmaintained [14:12] also there's some random extra planet sites like the kde pim planet which I suspect are largely unused and should be merged into the main one with feed classes or something [14:13] What exactly is pim? [14:13] stupid name for Kontact, e-mail and calendering stuff [14:14] Ah! Alright [14:14] "personal information manager" [14:14] ^ [14:14] Riddell: http://files.kde.org/snapshots/kubuntu-plasma5/ [14:15] awooga [14:15] shadeslayer: delete HEADER.html~ to be tidy :) [14:16] shadeslayer: feeling any better? [14:16] Riddell: throat's alot better [14:17] overall, getting better by every hour [14:17] as long as I keep myself medicated [14:17] So, I guess all I'd have to do is develop a new good looking-mobile friendly UI with a backend that allows blogging and integration with social media, right? [14:17] that's a good sign, keep drinking lots, get some rest and also some fresh air [14:17] Hi all :-) Got kubuntu14.10 with plasma 5 and I have two questions: [14:17] 1st: is is possible to extend main panel to both monitors? [14:18] 2nd: Does tray work correctly? I can't find my programms there (skype, thunderbird). [14:18] Riddell: yep [14:18] willigo: look at the setup we have now, I wouldn't expect to change away from using rawdog it seems to work nicely, just additions to it to have links to social media et al [14:18] nicon`: user questions best in #kubuntu or #kde [14:19] Riddell: yeah, but plasma 5 is not supported in #kubuntu ;-) [14:20] Riddell: Alrighty then, I guess I can figure out rawdog [14:22] Riddell: And I think rawdog is being mantianed these days. I see the last change date as 19-Oct-14 here http://offog.org/git/rawdog.git/ [14:23] willigo: ok so you can also look at updating to current rawdog [14:24] Hi Riddell and sgclark Thanks for your time, and input yesterday. I think it was a Brilliant show, so good to talk to you both [14:24] nicon`: hmm says who? [14:24] Riddell: Alright! So, should I draft a proposal here? https://season.kde.org/?q=program_home&prg=32 [14:24] Sick_Rimmit: now you have to become an elite packager in return :) === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [14:24] 16:01:22 < BluesKaj> ahh, lots of things don't work on 5, it's not supported here , try #kubuntu-devel [14:24] ;-) [14:25] Ah yes, sgclark is going to help me, I will be starting in the evenings next week [14:25] Also I think John and I are planning now to come to Akademy next year too [14:26] nicon`: hmm, we should get our story straight about that [14:26] Sick_Rimmit: awooga [14:26] * BluesKaj hides :) [14:26] Riddell: I have requested for subscribing to the kubuntu-devel mailing list.Btw today I saw 250+ people were using the kubuntu.org at one point! [14:26] Once the show is edited, and posted as an MP3 to the site, I will give you a nudge [14:27] Sick_Rimmit: also may be worth coming to FOSDEM in february, and hey we have a meeting in munich next month all welcome [14:27] I am Definetly up for FOSDEM [14:27] who else does stuff in #kubuntu ? [14:28] valorie, lordievader, BluesKaj: should plasma 5 questions be valid in #kubuntu ? [14:28] I think they should as long as it's also allowed to answer "well tech preview so don't expect too much" [14:28] willigo: yeah go for it [14:29] Riddell, my mistake, i shouldn't have said "not supported", I should have said something similar to your quote above [14:30] BluesKaj: ach it does say not suported in various places on the download so it's not incorrect [14:30] Riddell: Awesome! Thanks [14:30] valorie: how do I accept a project on season.kde.org ? [14:31] Riddell: seeing as pretty much all problems with the plasma5 iso will be future problems I think the ultimate leave-me-alone reply possilby should be 'file a bug' instead of 'tech preview'? [14:31] Riddell, ok it's a grey area, but I'll refrain from telling users it's not supported in #kubuntu anyway [14:34] added to topic in #kubuntu [14:35] apachelogger: what's the difference between unstable-i386-latest.iso and kubuntu-plasma5-201410170848-i386.iso on http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ ? [14:35] apachelogger: now that utopic is out and kubuntu-ci is rolling should we scrap neon ? [14:36] symlink [14:37] Riddell: symlinks [14:37] Riddell: neon had lots of build failures today,s o I would not object to killing [14:37] OTOH that means 14.04 users can not test things anymore [14:37] kubotu: newversion gtk2-engines-oxygen 1.4.6 [14:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1385316 [14:38] then again I'd argue that its more long-term useful if they test production packaging on 14.10 anyway [14:38] ^^ [14:39] BluesKaj: so one useful answer to "I found a bug in kubuntu-plasma5" would be "please see if it's fixed in kubuntu-ci and then report a bug http://files.kde.org/snapshots/" [14:39] maybe we should have a factoid for that [14:40] Riddell, yeah, a factoid would be good, thanks. [14:40] Riddell: Is it still part of project neon? [14:41] BluesKaj: any idea how I make one? [14:41] lordievader: neon has been replaced by kubuntu-ci but it's a similar concept, packages made daily from git, cd images made weekly [14:41] Riddell, sorry I did know at one time, but it's been a while :) [14:42] apachelogger, shadeslayer: isn't the name kubuntu-plasma5-201410170848-i386.iso confusing? would it not be better to call it kubuntu-ci-xx.iso ? [14:42] Tm_T: how do I make an irc factoid thing in #kubuntu [14:42] ? [14:42] Hmm, okay I guess my idea of Neon was different from what it actually is. Else I'd say do the support of plasma5 in #project-neon. [14:43] something like !plasma5 Kubuntu Plasma5 is in tech preview, thanks for testing, if you find a bug you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ and report to bugs.kde.org [14:43] Okay, got skype icon working in tray (plasma5)... Now it would be nice to get it working for thunderbird, any advices? :-) [14:43] nicon`: what did you have to do? [14:44] I did many things, but probably what worked was installing sni-qt:i386 [14:44] nicon`: oh and you're on amd64 but skype is i386 multiarch [14:45] silly skype, whyever can't they build on amd64? [14:45] Exactly. [14:45] True :-) [14:51] Riddell, jussi01 is in cahrge of thge ubottu database, but check this out..scroll down to "suggest a factoid", http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/UbuntuBots?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=add+factoid&titlesearch=Titles [14:51] Riddell: well, yes, no, maybe, no :P [14:51] lordievader: it's just a different system, it does much the same thing as neon but integrates with kubuntu and debian packaging [14:51] apachelogger: which answer to which question? [14:51] Riddell: kubuntu-ci-xx.iso for name [14:51] currently the iso is kubuntu-plasma5-desktop, hence the name [14:52] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ now has links to kubuntu ci, vivid bugs and kubuntu-plasma5 source [14:52] when that changes I might be inclined to change the iso name, right now it's a bit meh [14:53] also technically the iso name at some point would need to change to reflect unstable vs. stable [14:53] Riddell: feel free to drop your thoughts in a mail to kubuntu-devel so we don't forget :P [14:53] hmm, qa server is running slow [14:53] this doesn't bode well for moving kubuntu.org to it [14:54] well not much cpu or memory usage [14:54] I wonder what "/usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/run/saslauthd -n 2" is [14:55] hmm, something to do with e-mail, that makes me nervous [14:56] BluesKaj: ach I just get Tm_T to sort out all the irc stuff :) [14:56] ovidiu-florin: ping [14:59] Riddell, ok, sounds good [15:00] sgclark: any reply from canonical sysadmins about your rt@ request to update the theme? [15:17] * ScottK guesses "no". [15:21] heh, next kubuntu release 15.04 is a friggin' monkey ...vivid vervet, now i'm convinced shuttleworth is losing it :) [15:22] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/py2stqaxs [15:27] sgclark: the gtk-oxygen engine updates might be nice to start Sick_Rimmit with [15:28] sgclark: I'm up for this.. [15:28] oh and if you need an ec2 to start let me know [15:30] sgclark: Think the time diff will close by 1 hour too, as our clocks go back 1 hour at 00:00 on Sunday [15:30] I'll be ready to go on Monday evening, at 19:30 [15:32] Sick_Rimmit: sounds good [15:36] Riddell: they said you put in a similiar request shortly after mine... so no [15:40] sgclark: um no, I put a similar request before yours which was what broke it in the first place [15:42] new kubuntu shirts! http://www.hellotux.com/kubuntu [15:43] yeh [15:49] Riddell: ok sent a reply that I confirmed with you that my fix needs to be applied. [15:53] Riddell: yes I have found that having my email services on the same server as the website is a very bad idea. [16:38] Hi folks. I'm trying to run OSSPD to get a true /dev/dsp. It works fine in Trusty but not in Utopic, where I get "CUSE: failed to register chrdev region". Is this a bug I need to report? [16:40] DarthFrog: Does this help at all http://ubuntu.aspcode.net/view/635400140124705175473272/unable-to-install-osspd [16:42] Sick_Rimmit: No. it's not an inability to install osspd, it's that osspd is unable to run. [16:42] OK, i guess I'll file a bug report. Oh frabjous joy, time to run the gauntlet in a hair shirt again. :-( [16:43] DarthFrog: Yep OK, report a bug, with how to replicate, and I will take a look.. [16:49] OK., thanks. [17:09] bukai: pong [17:12] ovidiu-florin: Hi, I was playing with drupal so that I could understand the existing code. I liked it a lot. I wanted to know why are we shifting to wordpress? [17:12] for ease of maintainance [17:13] ok, thanks. [18:25] I just updated to Kubuntu 14.10 and I'd like to port my KDE application to KF5 do you suggest to install plasma 5 ? [18:27] marcuzzo: if your purpose is solely for kf5 porting, then plasma5 is not required (ie, kf5 applications should run fine on kde4) [18:32] I need a QT5 KF5 development enviroment where I have to compile my application is it already install in Kubuntu 14.10? [19:31] Riddell: you can suggest factoid by saying "ubottu foobar is foo and bar" [19:33] !foobar [19:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about foobar [19:35] ubottu: plasma5 is Kubuntu Plasma5 is in tech preview, thanks for testing, if you find a bug you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds http://files.kde.org/snapshots/ and report to bugs.kde.org [19:36] 20:35 Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail [19:36] Tm_T: op away! [19:36] Riddell: Pici was quicker (: [19:36] and rww [19:37] * Tm_T loves how nicely community response on these [19:39] !plasma5 [19:39] Kubuntu Plasma 5 is a tech preview. To test it out, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/ . If you find a bug, you can also check it with kubuntu-ci images for latest builds. [19:40] apologies if that cleanup introduced inaccuracies, feel free to poke me if so [19:40] I go take care of a family, see you later === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [20:04] Yayy, plasma5 factoid :) [20:31] <_Groo_> dont kill the messenger but do you guys have any news on the plasma-next daily ppa? or weekly at least? [20:31] <_Groo_> one thing is to use neon, another is to update the plasma-next [20:52] <_Groo_> guys what are the new invocations to build cmake packages? im using dh $@ --buildsystem cmake --parallel without sucess [21:08] <_Groo_> nvm [21:10] <_Groo_> i was doing it right, the code was messed up :P