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darkxstNoskcaj, now that V is open, would be good to push some of the stuff in gnome3 to the archives05:48
darkxstalthough anything that uses gtkheaderbar/CSD's is still blocked05:48
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mgedminum how do I ppa-purge?  it wants to remove gdm, I don't want that06:33
mgedminit also wants to remove gnome-shell06:34
mgedminwhy remove and not downgrade?06:34
darkxstmgedmin, ppa-purge can't handle things very well when there are soname bumps06:35
mgedminhm06:35
darkxsthowever, just make a not of what it wants to remove, let it go ahead06:35
darkxstre-install ubuntu-gnome-desktop (that should pull in most things removed)06:35
darkxstand then if there is anything missing install those06:36
darkxstjust don't reboot until you have done all three of those steps!06:36
darkxsts/not/note/06:37
darkxstit would be hard to actually fix ppa-purge, particularly given none of authors care much about it anymore06:38
mgedminwelp, update-manager now insists I reboot before doing the upgrade07:18
mgedmindo-release-upgrade here I come!07:18
mgedminyay gnome-terminal crashed of course07:18
mgedminof couse it crashed, how could it not crash?07:18
mgedminscreen -x is a lifesaver07:18
darkxstmgedmin, only when you force it to do a distro update07:20
darkxstyou really should ppa-purge before that ;]07:21
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dia0uLI upgraded to 14.10 and now have issue with my display, vertical sync isn't perfect and I have a scrambled screen. When I play with xrandr and switch from one resolution to another sometimes the problem disapears, regardless of the selected resolution... How can I troubleshoot this issue? I've read xorg logs but there's nothing interesting there. With 14.04 I had no such issue. My graphical card id ATI X1600 (rather old but sti08:35
mgedminwell upgrade is a success08:35
mgedminsome ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 trusty packages are newer than the ones in utopic08:36
mgedminmaybe I should've ppa-purged it too08:36
mgedminapt-show-versions is very useful08:57
mgedminctrl-alt-esc makes gnome-shell 3.12 segfault in 14.10 + gnome3 ppa12:08
mgedminok, time for 3.14 goodness: add-apt-repository -y ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging12:30
mgedminadwaita-icon-theme-full 3.14.0-0ubuntu1~utopic1 fails to install:12:37
mgedmintrying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/cursors/top_left_corner', which is also in package gnome-themes-standard-data 3.12.0-1ubuntu112:37
mgedminprobably a missing Conflicts: gnome-themes-standard-data (<< 3.14.0)12:37
mgedmin(or something like that, I'm not an expert)12:38
mgedminworkaround: run apt full-upgrade again12:40
ricotzmgedmin, added the missing conflict13:16
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ricotzdarkxst, copied the utopic pocket of gnome3-staging to its vivid pocket13:30
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LinDolhi all14:08
mgedminthanks, ricotz!14:24
mgedminso, gnome 3.14 from the staging ppa14:24
mgedminI see some rough edges14:25
mgedminwindow shadows of apps that use client-side decorations are wrong: http://i.imgur.com/nyahSqS.png14:25
mgedminnautilus segfaulted while I was resizing it14:27
mgedminapport-gtk (1) didn't paint the gtktreeview fully until I clicked on it, then (2) didn't draw the expander arrows, and (3) segfaulted when I took its screenshot with alt-printscreen14:28
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mgedminrandom apps segfault in 0x014:32
mgedminin gtk_grab_notify_foreach()14:33
* mgedmin files https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1385315 for one such crash14:37
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 1385315 not found14:37
arthurfiggishello :) i'm seeing a problem with deja-dup (or the default backup utility) as of 14.10...whereas before it pretty much worked as expected, now trying to launch deja-dup or "Backups" from System Settings causes gnome-control-center to silently crash (general protection fault)...has anyone else had a similar problem, or is there a known bug I can post to?15:27
mgedminI can reproduce15:56
arthurfiggismgedmin: ahh..well it's not just me, on the other hand it's a rather big problem if you used deja-dup to backup your files on the previous release :( i don't see anything on launchpad yet, if i get the chance i'll make an account later and post a bug...or if someone else does before me, I'll try to add onto it15:57
AnythingdontmattHi, I am new to linux and i have a issue with gnome. I think the issue have to do something with font as in dashboard when i search an app with characters 's' and 'c' in app name. These characters are replaced by something like "~". Screenshot http://imgur.com/yEdHsMF16:08
Anythingdontmatt?16:11
the7thsinhello someone there16:14
mgedminapport seems to silently drop about two thirds of the crashes I'm trying to report16:15
the7thsinHow does one disable gnome color manager :}16:15
mgedminAnythingdontmatt, most likely video driver's fault16:15
mgedminI've seen this kind of font corruption on a couple of my machines, both with intel video -- but long ago16:16
Anythingdontmattmgedmin: I have nvidia graphic card and this is the first time i have encountered this issue. The graphics card drivers are installed 2-3 days ago and working fine.16:17
arthurfiggisAnythingdontmatt: yes, as mgedmin mentioned, what type of video chipset you're using and the driver's you're using for it would be helpful...e.g. if you're using nVidia whether or not you're using the nouveau drivers, the official drivers from the repo's and what version, etc. :) i can't say i've ever seen something like that myself so i'm not too sure what could cause it16:18
Anythingdontmatti have nvidia gt 435m with nvidia binary updated drivers.16:18
mgedminI'm not qualified to debug that, and I don't remember what my workaround was16:18
mgedminreboot?  suspend and resume?16:18
mgedminI seem to remember that usually things would work fine but some fonts would get corrupted sometimes after I suspended and resumed16:19
mgedminmaybe even logging out and logging in helped -- I honestly don't remember :/16:19
Anythingdontmatti will try to log out. Brb.16:19
the7thsinso about my question does anyone have any idea16:20
AnythingdontmattIssue fixed. Thanks for help.16:22
arthurfiggisAnythingdontmatt: what was it out of curiousity? i've seen wonky behaviour with bad drivers before but that was a bit weird :)16:22
mgedminthe7thsin, I do not understand it, TBH16:23
arthurfiggismgedmin: i was about to say the same thing, i haven't been able to find a gnome color manager yet to disable :)16:23
the7thsinmgedmin, ok thats bad for me16:24
AnythingdontmattI don't know. I just turned on ubuntu gnome and got these faulty fonts. Looks like graphic driver issue but got fixed after logging out and logging in again.16:24
arthurfiggisahh, here we go, from apt-cache show gnome-color-manager: http://projects.gnome.org/gnome-color-manager/16:24
mgedminthere's a cache of rendered font glyphs, and sometimes it gets corrupted16:24
the7thsinmgedmin, maybe you can suggest something after i tell you what is happening16:25
the7thsin?16:25
mgedminrestarting your session makes the programs create a new cache and re-render the glyphs16:25
mgedminso you get good fonts, until they get corrupted again16:25
mgedminit'd be awesome if somebody could root cause this...16:25
mgedminthe7thsin, please do16:25
arthurfiggisthe7thsin: i could recommend how to remove gnome-color-manager entirely but that also removes the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package and might cause other unwanted behaviour...so more information might help sure16:25
Anythingdontmattand then i have to restart again hehe :)16:26
the7thsinok16:26
the7thsincool16:26
the7thsinso16:26
mgedminAnythingdontmatt, maybe restarting the affected app is enough?  you can restart gnome-shell with Alt-F2 r, without closing all the other apps16:26
arthurfiggisAnythingdontmatt: when all else fails bang on it, it's worked since record players :P16:26
Anythingdontmattalt+f2 open a dialog for running command16:27
Anythingdontmattah got it thanks.16:28
the7thsinmgedmin, I got a nice IPS panel and I wanted to correct the colors (manually) from the system since working with the display sucks, so I installed the nvidia drivers 340.46 and manipulated the signal so that the monitor will show the colors just the right way. BUT as soon as I restart the computer gnome color manager resets my settings on login and i need to open the terminal every time and type nvidia-settings -l (to load the config file)16:30
mgedminI see!16:31
the7thsinalso i have a script running on startup to execute the command16:31
mgedminyeah, that would be annoying16:31
the7thsinbut still it overwrites it16:31
mgedminI would try to capture the profile from nvidia-settings and feed it to gnome-color-manager, so you wouldn't have to write custom scripts for that16:32
the7thsinwooo that would be stellar16:32
mgedminotherwise, hm, let me think... upstart user sessions, right?  there's probably a gnome-color-manager upstart file somewhere16:32
the7thsinyeah i guess16:32
the7thsinim running gnomeubuntu 14.0416:33
mgedminnope16:33
mgedminit's probably started directly by gnome-session then?16:33
the7thsinhow do i check16:33
mgedminI'm not sure16:33
the7thsinbummer16:34
mgedmingnome-color-manager depends on colord16:35
mgedminhow are the two related?16:35
mgedminyeah, this need googling16:35
mgedminok, new approach: gnome-control-center -> Colors16:35
mgedminmaybe there's something about "don't touch my monitor please"?16:35
the7thsinyeah as soon as I try to uninstall it it wants to uninstall ubuntu-gnome desktop16:35
the7thsinnope16:36
mgedminthere are on/off buttons next to each device16:36
the7thsini can add a profile but scince they didn't make it so you can touch manually i cant do antthing16:36
the7thsinjust says uncalibrated16:37
mgedminthe7thsin, http://imgur.com/eMQ4wfj16:38
the7thsini dont have that16:38
the7thsinlet me show you16:38
the7thsinhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7304009/Screenshot%20NEW%20copy.png16:40
arthurfiggishmm...i know in my case once i installed the official "stable" nvidia drivers, an entry was added to "startup applications" that automatically loaded any configuration that i'd created with nvidia-settings :) strange that it wouldn't be automatically loaded in your case as well16:43
the7thsinarthurfiggis, it is loaded but then the color manager overwrites it :D16:43
the7thsinmgedmin, can you see the image16:44
mgedminooh right I have the gnome3 ppa16:45
the7thsincan i install the gnome 3 ppa?16:45
mgedminif you want16:46
mgedminit has bits of gnome 3.12 that didn't make it into the official ubuntu archive16:46
the7thsinwell im using gnome 3.1016:46
the7thsinmaybe i should upgrade16:46
mgedminwhat ubuntu version are you on?16:46
the7thsinubuntu 14.0416:47
mgedminah16:47
mgedminI'm on 14.10 :D16:47
mgedminso of course I assume everyone upgrades to the latest as soon as it's out :)16:47
mgedminsorry16:47
mgedmintry gsettings org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.color active false16:47
the7thsinlol i need it stable16:47
mgedminthis should disable color management16:47
the7thsinin the terminal16:48
the7thsin?16:48
mgedminyes16:48
the7thsinand should i be superuser16:48
the7thsinadmin*16:48
mgedminno16:49
mgedminit's a per-user setting16:49
the7thsinUnknown command org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.color16:49
mgedminyou dropped 'gsettings'16:50
the7thsinnope16:50
mgedminno16:50
mgedminI dropped set16:50
mgedminsorry16:50
the7thsin:} ok16:50
mgedmingsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.color active false16:50
the7thsinok all is good so now do i restart?16:51
the7thsinor just relog16:51
mgedminthe usual way, I suppose16:52
the7thsinok let me try and reboot16:52
mgedminI can't speech becauser tired16:53
the7thsin^^16:53
the7thsinmgedmin, great scot it works :D16:57
the7thsinthat was weeks of searching on google and finding nothing16:57
the7thsini rebooted a couple of times just in case and it works16:58
the7thsinThank you very Fing much16:58
l3onwhat about include geary in gnome3-staging repo ?17:54
evubHey everyone18:25
evubI have an issue with installing Ubuntu Gnome 14.10, regarding creation of encrypted partitions. Can anyone help?18:28
darkxstricotz, ok, did you copy gnome3 also?20:46
darkxstseems not20:47
ricotzdarkxst, not yet20:48
ricotzdid now20:48
darkxstok, thanks20:59
darkxstNoskcaj, http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/vivid314.html22:27
Noskcajdarkxst, I'll work on it during the week, have to wait for syncs + xfce merges + stop being sick first22:28
darkxstNoskcaj, ok22:28
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