[05:48] <darkxst> Noskcaj, now that V is open, would be good to push some of the stuff in gnome3 to the archives
[05:48] <darkxst> although anything that uses gtkheaderbar/CSD's is still blocked
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[06:33] <mgedmin> um how do I ppa-purge?  it wants to remove gdm, I don't want that
[06:34] <mgedmin> it also wants to remove gnome-shell
[06:34] <mgedmin> why remove and not downgrade?
[06:35] <darkxst> mgedmin, ppa-purge can't handle things very well when there are soname bumps
[06:35] <mgedmin> hm
[06:35] <darkxst> however, just make a not of what it wants to remove, let it go ahead
[06:35] <darkxst> re-install ubuntu-gnome-desktop (that should pull in most things removed)
[06:36] <darkxst> and then if there is anything missing install those
[06:36] <darkxst> just don't reboot until you have done all three of those steps!
[06:37] <darkxst> s/not/note/
[06:38] <darkxst> it would be hard to actually fix ppa-purge, particularly given none of authors care much about it anymore
[07:18] <mgedmin> welp, update-manager now insists I reboot before doing the upgrade
[07:18] <mgedmin> do-release-upgrade here I come!
[07:18] <mgedmin> yay gnome-terminal crashed of course
[07:18] <mgedmin> of couse it crashed, how could it not crash?
[07:18] <mgedmin> screen -x is a lifesaver
[07:20] <darkxst> mgedmin, only when you force it to do a distro update
[07:21] <darkxst> you really should ppa-purge before that ;]
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[08:35] <dia0uL> I upgraded to 14.10 and now have issue with my display, vertical sync isn't perfect and I have a scrambled screen. When I play with xrandr and switch from one resolution to another sometimes the problem disapears, regardless of the selected resolution... How can I troubleshoot this issue? I've read xorg logs but there's nothing interesting there. With 14.04 I had no such issue. My graphical card id ATI X1600 (rather old but sti
[08:35] <mgedmin> well upgrade is a success
[08:36] <mgedmin> some ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 trusty packages are newer than the ones in utopic
[08:36] <mgedmin> maybe I should've ppa-purged it too
[08:57] <mgedmin> apt-show-versions is very useful
[12:08] <mgedmin> ctrl-alt-esc makes gnome-shell 3.12 segfault in 14.10 + gnome3 ppa
[12:30] <mgedmin> ok, time for 3.14 goodness: add-apt-repository -y ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging
[12:37] <mgedmin> adwaita-icon-theme-full 3.14.0-0ubuntu1~utopic1 fails to install:
[12:37] <mgedmin> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/cursors/top_left_corner', which is also in package gnome-themes-standard-data 3.12.0-1ubuntu1
[12:37] <mgedmin> probably a missing Conflicts: gnome-themes-standard-data (<< 3.14.0)
[12:38] <mgedmin> (or something like that, I'm not an expert)
[12:40] <mgedmin> workaround: run apt full-upgrade again
[13:16] <ricotz> mgedmin, added the missing conflict
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[13:30] <ricotz> darkxst, copied the utopic pocket of gnome3-staging to its vivid pocket
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[14:08] <LinDol> hi all
[14:24] <mgedmin> thanks, ricotz!
[14:24] <mgedmin> so, gnome 3.14 from the staging ppa
[14:25] <mgedmin> I see some rough edges
[14:25] <mgedmin> window shadows of apps that use client-side decorations are wrong: http://i.imgur.com/nyahSqS.png
[14:27] <mgedmin> nautilus segfaulted while I was resizing it
[14:28] <mgedmin> apport-gtk (1) didn't paint the gtktreeview fully until I clicked on it, then (2) didn't draw the expander arrows, and (3) segfaulted when I took its screenshot with alt-printscreen
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[14:32] <mgedmin> random apps segfault in 0x0
[14:33] <mgedmin> in gtk_grab_notify_foreach()
[14:37]  * mgedmin files https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1385315 for one such crash
[14:37] <ubot5> Error: ubuntu bug 1385315 not found
[15:27] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i'm seeing a problem with deja-dup (or the default backup utility) as of 14.10...whereas before it pretty much worked as expected, now trying to launch deja-dup or "Backups" from System Settings causes gnome-control-center to silently crash (general protection fault)...has anyone else had a similar problem, or is there a known bug I can post to?
[15:56] <mgedmin> I can reproduce
[15:57] <arthurfiggis> mgedmin: ahh..well it's not just me, on the other hand it's a rather big problem if you used deja-dup to backup your files on the previous release :( i don't see anything on launchpad yet, if i get the chance i'll make an account later and post a bug...or if someone else does before me, I'll try to add onto it
[16:08] <Anythingdontmatt> Hi, I am new to linux and i have a issue with gnome. I think the issue have to do something with font as in dashboard when i search an app with characters 's' and 'c' in app name. These characters are replaced by something like "~". Screenshot http://imgur.com/yEdHsMF
[16:11] <Anythingdontmatt> ?
[16:14] <the7thsin> hello someone there
[16:15] <mgedmin> apport seems to silently drop about two thirds of the crashes I'm trying to report
[16:15] <the7thsin> How does one disable gnome color manager :}
[16:15] <mgedmin> Anythingdontmatt, most likely video driver's fault
[16:16] <mgedmin> I've seen this kind of font corruption on a couple of my machines, both with intel video -- but long ago
[16:17] <Anythingdontmatt> mgedmin: I have nvidia graphic card and this is the first time i have encountered this issue. The graphics card drivers are installed 2-3 days ago and working fine.
[16:18] <arthurfiggis> Anythingdontmatt: yes, as mgedmin mentioned, what type of video chipset you're using and the driver's you're using for it would be helpful...e.g. if you're using nVidia whether or not you're using the nouveau drivers, the official drivers from the repo's and what version, etc. :) i can't say i've ever seen something like that myself so i'm not too sure what could cause it
[16:18] <Anythingdontmatt> i have nvidia gt 435m with nvidia binary updated drivers.
[16:18] <mgedmin> I'm not qualified to debug that, and I don't remember what my workaround was
[16:18] <mgedmin> reboot?  suspend and resume?
[16:19] <mgedmin> I seem to remember that usually things would work fine but some fonts would get corrupted sometimes after I suspended and resumed
[16:19] <mgedmin> maybe even logging out and logging in helped -- I honestly don't remember :/
[16:19] <Anythingdontmatt> i will try to log out. Brb.
[16:20] <the7thsin> so about my question does anyone have any idea
[16:22] <Anythingdontmatt> Issue fixed. Thanks for help.
[16:22] <arthurfiggis> Anythingdontmatt: what was it out of curiousity? i've seen wonky behaviour with bad drivers before but that was a bit weird :)
[16:23] <mgedmin> the7thsin, I do not understand it, TBH
[16:23] <arthurfiggis> mgedmin: i was about to say the same thing, i haven't been able to find a gnome color manager yet to disable :)
[16:24] <the7thsin> mgedmin, ok thats bad for me
[16:24] <Anythingdontmatt> I don't know. I just turned on ubuntu gnome and got these faulty fonts. Looks like graphic driver issue but got fixed after logging out and logging in again.
[16:24] <arthurfiggis> ahh, here we go, from apt-cache show gnome-color-manager: http://projects.gnome.org/gnome-color-manager/
[16:24] <mgedmin> there's a cache of rendered font glyphs, and sometimes it gets corrupted
[16:25] <the7thsin> mgedmin, maybe you can suggest something after i tell you what is happening
[16:25] <the7thsin> ?
[16:25] <mgedmin> restarting your session makes the programs create a new cache and re-render the glyphs
[16:25] <mgedmin> so you get good fonts, until they get corrupted again
[16:25] <mgedmin> it'd be awesome if somebody could root cause this...
[16:25] <mgedmin> the7thsin, please do
[16:25] <arthurfiggis> the7thsin: i could recommend how to remove gnome-color-manager entirely but that also removes the ubuntu-gnome-desktop meta package and might cause other unwanted behaviour...so more information might help sure
[16:26] <Anythingdontmatt> and then i have to restart again hehe :)
[16:26] <the7thsin> ok
[16:26] <the7thsin> cool
[16:26] <the7thsin> so
[16:26] <mgedmin> Anythingdontmatt, maybe restarting the affected app is enough?  you can restart gnome-shell with Alt-F2 r, without closing all the other apps
[16:26] <arthurfiggis> Anythingdontmatt: when all else fails bang on it, it's worked since record players :P
[16:27] <Anythingdontmatt> alt+f2 open a dialog for running command
[16:28] <Anythingdontmatt> ah got it thanks.
[16:30] <the7thsin> mgedmin, I got a nice IPS panel and I wanted to correct the colors (manually) from the system since working with the display sucks, so I installed the nvidia drivers 340.46 and manipulated the signal so that the monitor will show the colors just the right way. BUT as soon as I restart the computer gnome color manager resets my settings on login and i need to open the terminal every time and type nvidia-settings -l (to load the config file)
[16:31] <mgedmin> I see!
[16:31] <the7thsin> also i have a script running on startup to execute the command
[16:31] <mgedmin> yeah, that would be annoying
[16:31] <the7thsin> but still it overwrites it
[16:32] <mgedmin> I would try to capture the profile from nvidia-settings and feed it to gnome-color-manager, so you wouldn't have to write custom scripts for that
[16:32] <the7thsin> wooo that would be stellar
[16:32] <mgedmin> otherwise, hm, let me think... upstart user sessions, right?  there's probably a gnome-color-manager upstart file somewhere
[16:32] <the7thsin> yeah i guess
[16:33] <the7thsin> im running gnomeubuntu 14.04
[16:33] <mgedmin> nope
[16:33] <mgedmin> it's probably started directly by gnome-session then?
[16:33] <the7thsin> how do i check
[16:33] <mgedmin> I'm not sure
[16:34] <the7thsin> bummer
[16:35] <mgedmin> gnome-color-manager depends on colord
[16:35] <mgedmin> how are the two related?
[16:35] <mgedmin> yeah, this need googling
[16:35] <mgedmin> ok, new approach: gnome-control-center -> Colors
[16:35] <mgedmin> maybe there's something about "don't touch my monitor please"?
[16:35] <the7thsin> yeah as soon as I try to uninstall it it wants to uninstall ubuntu-gnome desktop
[16:36] <the7thsin> nope
[16:36] <mgedmin> there are on/off buttons next to each device
[16:36] <the7thsin> i can add a profile but scince they didn't make it so you can touch manually i cant do antthing
[16:37] <the7thsin> just says uncalibrated
[16:38] <mgedmin> the7thsin, http://imgur.com/eMQ4wfj
[16:38] <the7thsin> i dont have that
[16:38] <the7thsin> let me show you
[16:40] <the7thsin> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7304009/Screenshot%20NEW%20copy.png
[16:43] <arthurfiggis> hmm...i know in my case once i installed the official "stable" nvidia drivers, an entry was added to "startup applications" that automatically loaded any configuration that i'd created with nvidia-settings :) strange that it wouldn't be automatically loaded in your case as well
[16:43] <the7thsin> arthurfiggis, it is loaded but then the color manager overwrites it :D
[16:44] <the7thsin> mgedmin, can you see the image
[16:45] <mgedmin> ooh right I have the gnome3 ppa
[16:45] <the7thsin> can i install the gnome 3 ppa?
[16:46] <mgedmin> if you want
[16:46] <mgedmin> it has bits of gnome 3.12 that didn't make it into the official ubuntu archive
[16:46] <the7thsin> well im using gnome 3.10
[16:46] <the7thsin> maybe i should upgrade
[16:46] <mgedmin> what ubuntu version are you on?
[16:47] <the7thsin> ubuntu 14.04
[16:47] <mgedmin> ah
[16:47] <mgedmin> I'm on 14.10 :D
[16:47] <mgedmin> so of course I assume everyone upgrades to the latest as soon as it's out :)
[16:47] <mgedmin> sorry
[16:47] <mgedmin> try gsettings org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.color active false
[16:47] <the7thsin> lol i need it stable
[16:47] <mgedmin> this should disable color management
[16:48] <the7thsin> in the terminal
[16:48] <the7thsin> ?
[16:48] <mgedmin> yes
[16:48] <the7thsin> and should i be superuser
[16:48] <the7thsin> admin*
[16:49] <mgedmin> no
[16:49] <mgedmin> it's a per-user setting
[16:49] <the7thsin> Unknown command org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.color
[16:50] <mgedmin> you dropped 'gsettings'
[16:50] <the7thsin> nope
[16:50] <mgedmin> no
[16:50] <mgedmin> I dropped set
[16:50] <mgedmin> sorry
[16:50] <the7thsin> :} ok
[16:50] <mgedmin> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.color active false
[16:51] <the7thsin> ok all is good so now do i restart?
[16:51] <the7thsin> or just relog
[16:52] <mgedmin> the usual way, I suppose
[16:52] <the7thsin> ok let me try and reboot
[16:53] <mgedmin> I can't speech becauser tired
[16:53] <the7thsin> ^^
[16:57] <the7thsin> mgedmin, great scot it works :D
[16:57] <the7thsin> that was weeks of searching on google and finding nothing
[16:58] <the7thsin> i rebooted a couple of times just in case and it works
[16:58] <the7thsin> Thank you very Fing much
[17:54] <l3on> what about include geary in gnome3-staging repo ?
[18:25] <evub> Hey everyone
[18:28] <evub> I have an issue with installing Ubuntu Gnome 14.10, regarding creation of encrypted partitions. Can anyone help?
[20:46] <darkxst> ricotz, ok, did you copy gnome3 also?
[20:47] <darkxst> seems not
[20:48] <ricotz> darkxst, not yet
[20:48] <ricotz> did now
[20:59] <darkxst> ok, thanks
[22:27] <darkxst> Noskcaj, http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/vivid314.html
[22:28] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'll work on it during the week, have to wait for syncs + xfce merges + stop being sick first
[22:28] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ok
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