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elfywxl: what's the best place to talk to lubuntu people - not users?09:33
balloonsmorning all12:40
balloonshappy first day of utopic12:40
elfyhi balloons12:40
elfyfirst day of vampire surely :p12:40
balloonshello elfy. I trust this friday is treating you welll12:41
elfyit is indeed :)12:41
balloonselfy, :-) yes, no vampire yet12:41
elfyand I hope you're having a good time too12:41
elfyballoons: Description:Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)12:41
elfy<- glutton for punisment12:42
elfynot tried vbox yet though :D12:42
elfyballoons: when you get a minute can you look at the MP I did weeks ago for usb creator - https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1132847/+merge/23706512:43
balloonselfy, tired by today, but :-)12:43
elfyyep - don't doubt it :)12:43
balloonselfy, I shall do it now lest I forget12:43
elfyyou're such a good chap :)12:44
balloonselfy, done13:08
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elfyballoons: thanks - I'll look shortly13:10
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senanballoons, hi15:33
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wxlS5When do the dailies get turned back on? I thought I got an email about that but I guess not15:39
elfyhey wxlS5 - pinged you a while back re lubuntu - what's the other mailing list - eg not users15:40
elfyvivid is at least now on the tracker15:41
wxlS5elfy sorry I'm on the phone so don't have all my scrollback15:41
elfyI guessed you were something like that15:41
wxlS5lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net15:41
elfyoh right15:42
elfypossibly not what I want either - not a qa thing :)15:42
wxlS5So I see vivid on the tracker but don't see any builds15:42
elfyis there a lubuntu dev list?15:42
wxlS5Well there's users and then qa is like everything else ;-)15:42
elfyI'm guessing the builds are on the way - this is a lot quicker than previous cycles15:43
wxlS5We should have a dev list but none yet15:43
elfyok - so that's be the best place to contact the *team* ?15:43
wxlS5ok then I'll send this email to testers pointing them at it with patience15:43
wxlS5yes15:43
wxlS5Since you're not a member I'll have to approve it15:44
elfyawesome - thanks15:44
elfyyep15:44
wxlS5I'll have to give that careful consideration ;-)15:44
elfysent - not anything actually to do with QA though :p15:46
* elfy has his other hat on ;)15:47
wxlS5All good15:48
wxlS5Approved15:48
wxlS5I'll put it in my calendar15:49
wxlS5I'll make sure to point the heads of state at it ;-)15:50
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wxlS5There are no products in the manifest it seems16:41
wxlS5Do I need to add that or should I bug release?16:41
wxlS5Oh well I'll just bother them heh16:42
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elfywxlS5: they've not started building vivid yet afaik https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1385022/comments/316:46
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1385022 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Vivid daily using Utopic sources" [Undecided,Invalid]16:46
wxlS5Thx17:20
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ubuntu_ddrHello all!! I have what might be a silly question20:32
ubuntu_ddrI am trying to find test cases included in the ´Checkbox System Testing´20:33
ubuntu_ddrthe Test Suites...20:34
ubuntu_ddrI can see them when I lunch Checkbox, but I cant find it files in the filesystem20:34
ubuntu_ddrcan anyone help me?20:34
elfyI would if I knew what checkbox was20:35
ubuntu_ddrhello elfy20:36
ubuntu_ddrthis is what I am talking about: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/RunningCheckboxTestCases20:36
elfyoh that20:36
ubuntu_ddris this the right place for that quesiton?20:36
knomeyes20:37
ubuntu_ddrgreat!20:37
knomeTest case wiki for storing test cases and tracking test case coverage. NOTE: This wiki has been deprecated in favor of managing testcases via the qatracker (including checkbox testcases). Testcases remain here to support legacy usage and for historical purposes.20:38
knomeubuntu_ddr, ^ from the subdomain front page20:38
knomeubuntu_ddr, what are you looking to test?20:38
ubuntu_ddrwe are going to buy some PCs and laptops, so I am looking for an automated way of testing hardware20:39
ubuntu_ddrto see if its compatible with Ubuntu 1420:40
knomeokay... that's quite a bit different from checkbox is the qa trackers.20:40
ubuntu_ddrautomated or semiautomated, but I would like to add and remove tests from what comes in the default installation20:41
ubuntu_ddrthe application included in Ubuntu 14.04.01 named ´System Testing´ isnt checkbox?20:42
ubuntu_ddrsorry, I am a bit confused, I had been a Slackware user for years, Ubuntu is cool but so different!20:44
knomei have no idea about that, i'm not a ubuntu (desktop) user myself20:44
elfyI think that the ubuntu tool is the same thing20:44
ubuntu_ddrok20:44
knomeelfy, but isn't that still for reporting tests, or?20:45
elfyknome: I don't believe it reports in the same way as we would normally talk about20:48
elfynot sure it's actually for testing to see if 'hardware' is supported20:48
knomei also don't believe it's a tool to test if the hardware is compatible with ubuntu20:48
knomethe best tool for that is a live disc :)20:49
elfyI'd look at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ and then pick something that is tested if I was buying more than one machine20:50
ubuntu_ddrthis tool i am talking about was used for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly20:51
ubuntu_ddrand is really usefull20:51
ubuntu_ddrfor checking every pice of hardware20:52
ubuntu_ddrand its included in the default Ubuntu installation20:52
ubuntu_ddrso yes, it could be used from a live cd20:52
ubuntu_ddrthats our idea20:52
elfyubuntu_ddr: that ubuntufriendly has been sunsetted20:53
ubuntu_ddrthe thing is that it is not easy to find certified equipment at a good price20:53
ubuntu_ddrsorry, but what does sunsetted means?20:54
elfygone - not used anymore - was shut down September 201320:55
ubuntu_ddrok, yes20:55
ubuntu_ddrbut the aplication is included in the last realease, and is usefull for or porpouse20:55
ubuntu_ddr*our porpuse20:55
ubuntu_ddrfor testing each vendor hardware20:55
ubuntu_ddri just need to be able to edit the included tests20:55
elfyyes - but we're not able to help you find wherever the tests that it used to use are :)20:55
ubuntu_ddrbut this tests are included in the 14.04.01 release!20:56
ubuntu_ddrthank you anyway for your time elfy and knome20:57
knomenp20:57
ubuntu_ddri will keep searching, the files are somewhere20:58
elfyubuntu_ddr: you might be able to change them in the code - but I can't answer that20:58
knomeme neither, don't know anything about the tool20:58
ubuntu_ddryes, I have to study it better20:58
ubuntu_ddrthank you both20:58
ubuntu_ddrgood luck, greetings from Uruguay20:59
elfygreetings from England :)20:59
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