[09:33] <elfy> wxl: what's the best place to talk to lubuntu people - not users?
[12:40] <balloons> morning all
[12:40] <balloons> happy first day of utopic
[12:40] <elfy> hi balloons
[12:40] <elfy> first day of vampire surely :p
[12:41] <balloons> hello elfy. I trust this friday is treating you welll
[12:41] <elfy> it is indeed :)
[12:41] <balloons> elfy, :-) yes, no vampire yet
[12:41] <elfy> and I hope you're having a good time too
[12:41] <elfy> balloons: Description:	Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)
[12:42] <elfy> <- glutton for punisment
[12:42] <elfy> not tried vbox yet though :D
[12:43] <elfy> balloons: when you get a minute can you look at the MP I did weeks ago for usb creator - https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1132847/+merge/237065
[12:43] <balloons> elfy, tired by today, but :-)
[12:43] <elfy> yep - don't doubt it :)
[12:43] <balloons> elfy, I shall do it now lest I forget
[12:44] <elfy> you're such a good chap :)
[13:08] <balloons> elfy, done
[13:10] <elfy> balloons: thanks - I'll look shortly
[15:33] <senan> balloons, hi
[15:39] <wxlS5> When do the dailies get turned back on? I thought I got an email about that but I guess not
[15:40] <elfy> hey wxlS5 - pinged you a while back re lubuntu - what's the other mailing list - eg not users
[15:41] <elfy> vivid is at least now on the tracker
[15:41] <wxlS5> elfy sorry I'm on the phone so don't have all my scrollback
[15:41] <elfy> I guessed you were something like that
[15:41] <wxlS5> lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net
[15:42] <elfy> oh right
[15:42] <elfy> possibly not what I want either - not a qa thing :)
[15:42] <wxlS5> So I see vivid on the tracker but don't see any builds
[15:42] <elfy> is there a lubuntu dev list?
[15:42] <wxlS5> Well there's users and then qa is like everything else ;-)
[15:43] <elfy> I'm guessing the builds are on the way - this is a lot quicker than previous cycles
[15:43] <wxlS5> We should have a dev list but none yet
[15:43] <elfy> ok - so that's be the best place to contact the *team* ?
[15:43] <wxlS5> ok then I'll send this email to testers pointing them at it with patience
[15:43] <wxlS5> yes
[15:44] <wxlS5> Since you're not a member I'll have to approve it
[15:44] <elfy> awesome - thanks
[15:44] <elfy> yep
[15:44] <wxlS5> I'll have to give that careful consideration ;-)
[15:46] <elfy> sent - not anything actually to do with QA though :p
[15:47]  * elfy has his other hat on ;)
[15:48] <wxlS5> All good
[15:48] <wxlS5> Approved
[15:49] <wxlS5> I'll put it in my calendar
[15:50] <wxlS5> I'll make sure to point the heads of state at it ;-)
[16:41] <wxlS5> There are no products in the manifest it seems
[16:41] <wxlS5> Do I need to add that or should I bug release?
[16:42] <wxlS5> Oh well I'll just bother them heh
[16:46] <elfy> wxlS5: they've not started building vivid yet afaik https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1385022/comments/3
[17:20] <wxlS5> Thx
[20:32] <ubuntu_ddr> Hello all!! I have what might be a silly question
[20:33] <ubuntu_ddr> I am trying to find test cases included in the ´Checkbox System Testing´
[20:34] <ubuntu_ddr> the Test Suites...
[20:34] <ubuntu_ddr> I can see them when I lunch Checkbox, but I cant find it files in the filesystem
[20:34] <ubuntu_ddr> can anyone help me?
[20:35] <elfy> I would if I knew what checkbox was
[20:36] <ubuntu_ddr> hello elfy
[20:36] <ubuntu_ddr> this is what I am talking about: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/RunningCheckboxTestCases
[20:36] <elfy> oh that
[20:36] <ubuntu_ddr> is this the right place for that quesiton?
[20:37] <knome> yes
[20:37] <ubuntu_ddr> great!
[20:38] <knome> Test case wiki for storing test cases and tracking test case coverage. NOTE: This wiki has been deprecated in favor of managing testcases via the qatracker (including checkbox testcases). Testcases remain here to support legacy usage and for historical purposes.
[20:38] <knome> ubuntu_ddr, ^ from the subdomain front page
[20:38] <knome> ubuntu_ddr, what are you looking to test?
[20:39] <ubuntu_ddr> we are going to buy some PCs and laptops, so I am looking for an automated way of testing hardware
[20:40] <ubuntu_ddr> to see if its compatible with Ubuntu 14
[20:40] <knome> okay... that's quite a bit different from checkbox is the qa trackers.
[20:41] <ubuntu_ddr> automated or semiautomated, but I would like to add and remove tests from what comes in the default installation
[20:42] <ubuntu_ddr> the application included in Ubuntu 14.04.01 named ´System Testing´ isnt checkbox?
[20:44] <ubuntu_ddr> sorry, I am a bit confused, I had been a Slackware user for years, Ubuntu is cool but so different!
[20:44] <knome> i have no idea about that, i'm not a ubuntu (desktop) user myself
[20:44] <elfy> I think that the ubuntu tool is the same thing
[20:44] <ubuntu_ddr> ok
[20:45] <knome> elfy, but isn't that still for reporting tests, or?
[20:48] <elfy> knome: I don't believe it reports in the same way as we would normally talk about
[20:48] <elfy> not sure it's actually for testing to see if 'hardware' is supported
[20:48] <knome> i also don't believe it's a tool to test if the hardware is compatible with ubuntu
[20:49] <knome> the best tool for that is a live disc :)
[20:50] <elfy> I'd look at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/ and then pick something that is tested if I was buying more than one machine
[20:51] <ubuntu_ddr> this tool i am talking about was used for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly
[20:51] <ubuntu_ddr> and is really usefull
[20:52] <ubuntu_ddr> for checking every pice of hardware
[20:52] <ubuntu_ddr> and its included in the default Ubuntu installation
[20:52] <ubuntu_ddr> so yes, it could be used from a live cd
[20:52] <ubuntu_ddr> thats our idea
[20:53] <elfy> ubuntu_ddr: that ubuntufriendly has been sunsetted
[20:53] <ubuntu_ddr> the thing is that it is not easy to find certified equipment at a good price
[20:54] <ubuntu_ddr> sorry, but what does sunsetted means?
[20:55] <elfy> gone - not used anymore - was shut down September 2013
[20:55] <ubuntu_ddr> ok, yes
[20:55] <ubuntu_ddr> but the aplication is included in the last realease, and is usefull for or porpouse
[20:55] <ubuntu_ddr> *our porpuse
[20:55] <ubuntu_ddr> for testing each vendor hardware
[20:55] <ubuntu_ddr> i just need to be able to edit the included tests
[20:55] <elfy> yes - but we're not able to help you find wherever the tests that it used to use are :)
[20:56] <ubuntu_ddr> but this tests are included in the 14.04.01 release!
[20:57] <ubuntu_ddr> thank you anyway for your time elfy and knome
[20:57] <knome> np
[20:58] <ubuntu_ddr> i will keep searching, the files are somewhere
[20:58] <elfy> ubuntu_ddr: you might be able to change them in the code - but I can't answer that
[20:58] <knome> me neither, don't know anything about the tool
[20:58] <ubuntu_ddr> yes, I have to study it better
[20:58] <ubuntu_ddr> thank you both
[20:59] <ubuntu_ddr> good luck, greetings from Uruguay
[20:59] <elfy> greetings from England :)