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korei want to try ubuntu-touch on my intel nuc (x86)09:21
koreare the images in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ anything i could dd to a usb-stick and boot from?09:21
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vitimitiHi09:58
joachimvdaHi, I have installed Ubuntu-for-devices on my nexus4 three weeks ago.10:12
joachimvdaI love it, thanks.10:12
joachimvdaA couple of questions.10:12
joachimvdaAre there plans to have WebDAV support for syncing contacts and calendar?10:12
joachimvdaIs it possible to install a Belgian keyboard (I could contribute if I know how)?10:13
justCarakasjoachimvda: the belgian keyboard has the same layout as the french one, the only thing you don't get than is the autocomplete, so you might want to look for someone to fork it and add the autocomplete of the dutch one :)10:14
joachimvdaThere seems to be a problem with the alarm. My phone is set to GMT+2. When I enter an event for 10AM, it will be displayed in the notifications are as being at 8AM. Is this known? If not where/how do I register a bug?10:14
justCarakasI think you should report that bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/reboot10:15
justCarakasjoachimvda: ^10:15
joachimvdaApps are also not updating anymore. The full systems updates, but when there are app updates when clicking "instal x updates" all apps show "downloading 0 bytes of ..."10:17
joachimvdaI will register a bug for the clock app.10:22
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dakerjoachimvda: just remove/add your U1 account from system-settings10:27
joachimvda@daker how is my U1 account going to help? I want to get stuff from my owncloud server. I only see twitter/facebook:u1/evernote/flickr/google as options for accounts. My u1 account is already linked.10:39
harshacan we install normal .deb packages on ubuntu touch?12:49
ogra_harsha, only if you make it writable ... which means that you do not have any supported upgrade path anymore12:53
harshaI am ok with not getting upgrades....but i am intrested if i can make my ubuntu touch as my desktop replacement12:55
ogra_if you have very tiny fingers perhaps :)12:55
harshaActually my device is not listed in ubuntu touch supported devices, where will i get proper documentation to devlop ubuntu touch for my mobile? mine is Oneplus one12:56
mvo_sergiusens: what app did you try to build in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8645830/ ? i.e. how can I reproduce it?12:56
harshaThanks orga_ , let me start developing ubuntu touch for my mobile13:00
harshaone last questing is UBntuntu touch support wireless display chromecast or miracast13:00
ogra_not yet, no13:02
ogra_(it is just a phone OS currently)13:02
vitimitiA great phone OS*13:03
ogra_:)13:03
dakerogra_: sprinting ?13:04
ogra_daker, kind of ... getting sober :)13:04
dakerogra_: huh :)13:05
ogra_heh13:05
dakerogra_: just make sure you don't touch any line of code ;)13:05
ogra_haha13:06
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sergiusensmvo_: lp:camera-app13:30
charlesmihir, I did a sanity check of asking a couple of people last night what would be Least Surprising to them wrt appointments and timezones13:37
charlesthe general answer was consistent with keeping it in UTC :-)13:37
mihircharles: awesome , that's what we are doing it :D13:38
charlesmihir, yep, that's my point :)13:38
charlesso even post-RTM maybe we don't need to change this13:38
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charlesif we /really/ wanted it to be correct in all circumstances, there could be a timezone picker in the "Add Event" form... IMO that would be overkill for 99% of uses13:40
Chipacacharles: if the notification centre is empty but blinking, is that you? or who?13:45
mihircharles: hmm yup we can do that , and store timezone as well13:45
Chipacalarsu: are you around?13:54
larsuChipaca: yes, but in a session right now13:54
larsushould be done in < 10 min13:55
Chipacalarsu: i've got the notification centre empty, and the led indicator blinking. is that a you thing?13:59
larsuChipaca: no, more a dednick thing I would say14:00
Chipacalarsu: ok14:00
Chipacadednick: ping.14:00
larsunot sure what is turning on this light -- unity8?14:00
dednickChipaca: hi.14:00
Chipacadednick: i've got the notification centre empty, and the led indicator blinking. is that a you thing?14:01
dednickyes, u8 is turning the led on i think14:01
dednickChipaca: what is the notification icon in the panel? green or grey?14:01
Chipacadednick: grey14:03
dednickChipaca: rtm or devel?14:03
Chipacadednick: rtm14:06
sergiusenscjwatson: mvo_: can we add intltool to the click chroot?14:07
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cjwatsonsergiusens: can that be installed in a session instead?14:12
sergiusenscjwatson: I guess it can14:13
cjwatsonotherwise the click chroot ought to be made identical to sdk-libs-dev, so consider whether it's appropriate there I guess14:13
sergiusenscjwatson: I think all projects are using that though14:13
sergiusensI'll check14:13
cjwatsonmkay14:13
Chipacadednick: i'm blocked on not touching my device in case there is something debuggable, but i really need to kick off autopilot tests14:15
Chipacadednick: please advise14:15
sergiusenscjwatson: there is no sudo in the chroot though, so I can't click chroot -a... -f... run sudo apt-get install intltool14:16
cjwatsonsergiusens: s/run sudo/maint/14:16
dednickChipaca: ya. just trying to find out how to check why it's showing.14:16
sergiusenscjwatson: maint is per session too?14:16
sergiusensworks for me if so14:17
dednickshould be only when the "indicator-messages-new" is showing14:17
cjwatsonsergiusens: Yep, if you pass a session name to it14:17
sergiusensgreat14:17
mihirthere is no way to detact if my password has changed in my Google account14:17
sergiusensthanks14:17
Chipacadednick: found a way to unblock; take your time14:17
mihirwhat would be the right project to file a bug?14:17
cjwatsonsergiusens: In lp:click, "click chroot install" is per-session too, but not in the latest release14:17
sergiusensgotcha14:17
cjwatsonActually possibly that's an unlanded branch14:17
mvo_yeah, I think its approved but has not been uploaded14:18
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dednickChipaca: dbus-send --session --dest=com.canonical.indicator.messages --print-reply /com/canonical/indicator/messages org.gtk.Actions.DescribeAll | grep -A 10 icon14:24
dednickChipaca: on device.14:25
Chipacaralsina: could you shell into my phone and run ^ ?14:25
Chipacaralsina: pretty please14:25
ralsinaChipaca: sure14:25
ralsinahttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8656591/14:26
Chipacadednick: ^14:26
dednickChipaca: hm. in that case if it's only u8 thats fiddling with the led, i'm not sure why it's going.14:29
mvo_sergiusens: thanks, I create the chroot now and see whats going on with the camera build14:30
dednickChipaca: might be a bug in the Lights plugin.14:31
Chipacadednick: do you know who i should pester about that?14:32
dednickChipaca: can you grep unity8 logs for "Failed to turn the light off"14:32
dednickChipaca: or rather, just for "light"14:33
ralsinadednick: no mention of light14:33
mihirrenatu: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/qtorganizer5-eds/fix-1362781/+merge/23904614:45
mihirrenatu: is it failing Jenkins  because of some issue in MP?14:46
renato___mihir, https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/qtorganizer5-eds/fix-1311165/+merge/23714214:53
mihirpopey: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/qtorganizer5-eds/fix-1311165/+merge/23714214:54
dednickChipaca: i'm afraid i'm at a bit of a loss on it. Best guess is that the u8 interactive with the lights interface is buggy. renato did that work.15:02
dednick*u8 interaction15:02
dednickChipaca: possibly if u8 crashed while you had a notification and the screen was off, then it can stay on.15:04
dednickChipaca: which is probably the case! can you raise a bug please?15:04
Chipacadednick: um. Yes, but you'll probably have to edit it :)15:07
Chipacadednick: is this against unity8?15:07
dednickChipaca: ya15:08
Chipacadednick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/138533115:08
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1385331 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "if u8 crashes while you had a notification and the screen was off, then the led can stay on." [Undecided,New]15:08
Chipacarenato___: ^15:09
ogra_pmcgowan, bug 138533215:11
ubot5bug 1385332 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "after notification in pocket turns the screen on device gets locked with "too many wrong unlock attempts, wait for 3 min"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138533215:11
ogra_not sure if there is any solution for this15:11
Chipacadednick: I'd *love* for push notifications to be able to set the led colour :)15:17
gatoxseb128, ping15:19
seb128gatox, hey15:19
gatoxseb128, hi, did you have the chance to take a look at my branch?15:20
seb128gatox, not yet but I saw that charles did15:20
cyphermoxkenvandine: does your gaming engine have support for HID gaming devices?15:22
dednickChipaca: i'll just pretend i didnt hear that ;)15:23
seb128gatox, can you reply to his comment?15:25
seb128gatox, code looks fine to me otherwise but I'm unsure how to test it15:25
gatoxseb128, i added the testing steps in the description and in the test plan15:26
seb128gatox, ok, I'm in a meeting but going to look at that after it15:26
gatoxseb128, ack15:26
ogra_pmcgowan, oh, i think i have an idea how to solve the above issue ... added to the bug15:28
pmcgowanack15:28
ogra_(not sure who should own it though ... i filed it against unity8 for now)15:29
ogra_Saviq, is bug 1385332 actually a unity thing ? (turning on the screen when a notification comes in)15:32
ubot5bug 1385332 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "after notification in pocket turns the screen on device gets locked with "too many wrong unlock attempts, wait for 3 min"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138533215:32
Saviqogra_, yeah, my opinion is we should do proximity in that case, but bug #1358343 disagrees to some extent15:33
ubot5bug 1358343 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[TOPBLOCKER] too easy to answer a call by accident" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135834315:33
* ogra_ checks15:33
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ogra_Saviq, hmm, i doubt the "swipe to take call" helps with notification wakeups15:39
Saviqogra_, of course, does not15:39
ogra_and specifically with the lock screen15:39
Saviqogra_, it's all just butt-dialing15:39
ogra_heh, yeah15:39
Saviqogra_, what I mean is that we proposed proximity in the phonecall use case, and was argued against15:40
ogra_yeah ... rsalveti sits next to me ... i'll punch him til he changes his mind ;)15:40
mvo_sergiusens: I just tested your earlier failure on my 14.10 and it seems to be working ok with the current click/click-chroot15:53
rsalvetiSaviq: ogra_: yeah, the only ideal solution is have a gesture15:54
sergiusensmvo_: that's a bummer; I just got to a good click version and seeing the issue still15:54
rsalvetiwe shouldn't use proximity because there are a bunch of use cases that might fail15:54
sergiusensmvo_: turns out bzoltan is backporting click to his ppa with a mangled version preventing proper upgrades15:54
ogra_rsalveti, how would a gesture have helped me in my case ?15:54
sergiusensmvo_: but it didn't solve my issue :-/15:54
mvo_sergiusens: and the click-chroot is freshly created you said? hmmm15:55
Saviqrsalveti, it's not about the notification15:55
sergiusensmvo_: yes15:55
Saviqrsalveti, it's about the fact that you get to swipe the greeter away15:55
ogra_rsalveti, my device obviously swiped away the susermetircs screen and punched in PIN numbers15:55
Saviqrsalveti, because you can now swipe it from anywhere on the screen15:55
Saviq(by design)15:55
MosesEX!ops15:57
ubot5Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - oubiwann, corp186, popey,  k1l,  Corey, wgrant, idleone, and ogra.15:57
rsalvetiSaviq: right, bug give me an example on how proximity would help you on that15:58
MosesEX!ops15:58
ubot5Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - oubiwann, corp186, popey,  k1l,  Corey, wgrant, idleone, and ogra.15:58
rsalvetiogra_: when accepting calls, you need a gesture15:59
Saviqrsalveti, we wouldn't enable screen or input until you take the phone out15:59
Saviqof your pocket15:59
MosesEX!ops15:59
rsalvetiSaviq: right, but now you have a small piece of paper or finger on top of your phone15:59
rsalvetithen you suddenly can't interact with the screen16:00
Saviqrsalveti, I think we should just see what others do16:00
ogra_yeah16:00
sergiusensmvo_: how are you creating the chroot? is -papi, -qml and sans -.* the same these days?16:00
Saviqrsalveti, my N9 did not turn on the screen automagically16:00
Saviqrsalveti, if proximity was toggled16:00
rsalvetiright, it's how we're actually handling the notifications16:00
Saviqrsalveti, granted, it worked from 1cm away, not 10cm away like on mako...16:00
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rsalvetiandroid doesn't enable the screen unless it's a call16:00
rsalvetinot sure how iphone is doing16:01
ogra_it wasnt really critical since the lock-down state only persists for 3 min16:01
ogra_but if we ever change that behavior to permanently lock ...16:01
Saviqogra_, I don't think we will16:02
ogra_ok16:02
Saviqaanyway16:02
Saviqstill bad experience16:02
ogra_i know jolla locks you down permanently16:02
ogra_you can only get out of it via developer mode ...16:03
Saviqogra_, actually what happens I think is that you butt-tap the notification, and that swipes the greeter away16:03
ogra_or re-flashing16:03
ogra_ah16:03
Saviqogra_, if you didn't have PIN16:03
ogra_so i didnt "butt swipe"16:03
rsalvetiSaviq: it's all a matter of defining how notifications should be16:03
rsalvetimore a design question I guess16:03
Saviqrsalveti, totally16:03
Saviqogra_, your phone would launch the app and you'd butt-call, butt-whatever16:03
rsalvetiand one problem we have, is that once your screen gets up after a notification, it's stay on for 60 seconds16:04
ogra_yeah16:04
rsalvetinot only like 3 seconds or something16:04
fxdaveHi! I want install this to my sony xperia p16:31
fxdaveCan i do this?16:31
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sergiusensmvo_: lp:~sergiusens/uci-engine/click16:34
sergiusensmvo_: click-builder/click_builder/clickbuilder.py16:35
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ksbalajiI'm on Samsung tab3. I've screwed up my usn-ubuntu-booter >how> to repair usb drive using tablet?16:52
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oSoMoNtedg, is there a bug to track the issue where url-dispatcher refuses to handle "tel:+1234567890"-like (i.e. slashless) URLs?17:42
tsdgeosoSoMoN: ted is doing a session atm17:48
oSoMoNoh, okay, thanks17:48
davidcallerschroll, https://reviews.ubuntu.com/click/api/1.0/reviews/?package_name=com.ubuntu.developer.rschroll.beru17:55
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bzoltansergiusens: please educate me if I do something wrong :) I promise it is not intentional18:58
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hellslingerhi guys, does anyone know if multitouch will be supported on thinkpads with clickpad? I've been through the wiki and have filed a bug but haven't heard anything in a couple of months. Any ideas of something I can try?19:16
cgreganAnyone seeing a problem with adding a twitter account?19:17
geniiJust moral issues.19:24
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taiebotNo one seeing this bug it has been marked as invalid but i swear i have some bluetooth profile which are always present and they are my old phones so it should come from my simcard https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/138284419:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1382844 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth shows my previous owned phone as possible connected device" [High,Invalid]19:35
veebersmzanetti: hey, the unity8 ap tests aren't still affected by this (old) bug right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/115410719:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1154107 in Autopilot "autopilot crashes on failed test" [Medium,Incomplete]19:40
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ogra_mzanetti, bug 1385473 to your hands20:14
ubot5bug 1385473 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Unlock dialogs (SIM PIN as well as Unlock screen) both do not use custom selected wallpaper" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138547320:14
gcolluraI have a Three Italy sim, when it doesn't have coverage for 3 it goes on roaming on Tim (another italian operator). With ubuntu touch devel-proposed, Tim is the only carrier available in settings, even if other phones have 3's coverage. So my phone (mako) is always in roaming mode. is this a know bug?21:52

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