[09:21] <kore> i want to try ubuntu-touch on my intel nuc (x86)
[09:21] <kore> are the images in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ anything i could dd to a usb-stick and boot from?
[09:58] <vitimiti> Hi
[10:12] <joachimvda> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu-for-devices on my nexus4 three weeks ago.
[10:12] <joachimvda> I love it, thanks.
[10:12] <joachimvda> A couple of questions.
[10:12] <joachimvda> Are there plans to have WebDAV support for syncing contacts and calendar?
[10:13] <joachimvda> Is it possible to install a Belgian keyboard (I could contribute if I know how)?
[10:14] <justCarakas> joachimvda: the belgian keyboard has the same layout as the french one, the only thing you don't get than is the autocomplete, so you might want to look for someone to fork it and add the autocomplete of the dutch one :)
[10:14] <joachimvda> There seems to be a problem with the alarm. My phone is set to GMT+2. When I enter an event for 10AM, it will be displayed in the notifications are as being at 8AM. Is this known? If not where/how do I register a bug?
[10:15] <justCarakas> I think you should report that bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/reboot
[10:15] <justCarakas> joachimvda: ^
[10:17] <joachimvda> Apps are also not updating anymore. The full systems updates, but when there are app updates when clicking "instal x updates" all apps show "downloading 0 bytes of ..."
[10:22] <joachimvda> I will register a bug for the clock app.
[10:27] <daker> joachimvda: just remove/add your U1 account from system-settings
[10:39] <joachimvda> @daker how is my U1 account going to help? I want to get stuff from my owncloud server. I only see twitter/facebook:u1/evernote/flickr/google as options for accounts. My u1 account is already linked.
[12:49] <harsha> can we install normal .deb packages on ubuntu touch?
[12:53] <ogra_> harsha, only if you make it writable ... which means that you do not have any supported upgrade path anymore
[12:55] <harsha> I am ok with not getting upgrades....but i am intrested if i can make my ubuntu touch as my desktop replacement
[12:55] <ogra_> if you have very tiny fingers perhaps :)
[12:56] <harsha> Actually my device is not listed in ubuntu touch supported devices, where will i get proper documentation to devlop ubuntu touch for my mobile? mine is Oneplus one
[12:56] <mvo_> sergiusens: what app did you try to build in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8645830/ ? i.e. how can I reproduce it?
[13:00] <harsha> Thanks orga_ , let me start developing ubuntu touch for my mobile
[13:00] <harsha> one last questing is UBntuntu touch support wireless display chromecast or miracast
[13:02] <ogra_> not yet, no
[13:02] <ogra_> (it is just a phone OS currently)
[13:03] <vitimiti> A great phone OS*
[13:03] <ogra_> :)
[13:04] <daker> ogra_: sprinting ?
[13:04] <ogra_> daker, kind of ... getting sober :)
[13:05] <daker> ogra_: huh :)
[13:05] <ogra_> heh
[13:05] <daker> ogra_: just make sure you don't touch any line of code ;)
[13:06] <ogra_> haha
[13:30] <sergiusens> mvo_: lp:camera-app
[13:37] <charles> mihir, I did a sanity check of asking a couple of people last night what would be Least Surprising to them wrt appointments and timezones
[13:37] <charles> the general answer was consistent with keeping it in UTC :-)
[13:38] <mihir> charles: awesome , that's what we are doing it :D
[13:38] <charles> mihir, yep, that's my point :)
[13:38] <charles> so even post-RTM maybe we don't need to change this
[13:40] <charles> if we /really/ wanted it to be correct in all circumstances, there could be a timezone picker in the "Add Event" form... IMO that would be overkill for 99% of uses
[13:45] <Chipaca> charles: if the notification centre is empty but blinking, is that you? or who?
[13:45] <mihir> charles: hmm yup we can do that , and store timezone as well
[13:54] <Chipaca> larsu: are you around?
[13:54] <larsu> Chipaca: yes, but in a session right now
[13:55] <larsu> should be done in < 10 min
[13:59] <Chipaca> larsu: i've got the notification centre empty, and the led indicator blinking. is that a you thing?
[14:00] <larsu> Chipaca: no, more a dednick thing I would say
[14:00] <Chipaca> larsu: ok
[14:00] <Chipaca> dednick: ping.
[14:00] <larsu> not sure what is turning on this light -- unity8?
[14:00] <dednick> Chipaca: hi.
[14:01] <Chipaca> dednick: i've got the notification centre empty, and the led indicator blinking. is that a you thing?
[14:01] <dednick> yes, u8 is turning the led on i think
[14:01] <dednick> Chipaca: what is the notification icon in the panel? green or grey?
[14:03] <Chipaca> dednick: grey
[14:03] <dednick> Chipaca: rtm or devel?
[14:06] <Chipaca> dednick: rtm
[14:07] <sergiusens> cjwatson: mvo_: can we add intltool to the click chroot?
[14:12] <cjwatson> sergiusens: can that be installed in a session instead?
[14:13] <sergiusens> cjwatson: I guess it can
[14:13] <cjwatson> otherwise the click chroot ought to be made identical to sdk-libs-dev, so consider whether it's appropriate there I guess
[14:13] <sergiusens> cjwatson: I think all projects are using that though
[14:13] <sergiusens> I'll check
[14:13] <cjwatson> mkay
[14:15] <Chipaca> dednick: i'm blocked on not touching my device in case there is something debuggable, but i really need to kick off autopilot tests
[14:15] <Chipaca> dednick: please advise
[14:16] <sergiusens> cjwatson: there is no sudo in the chroot though, so I can't click chroot -a... -f... run sudo apt-get install intltool
[14:16] <cjwatson> sergiusens: s/run sudo/maint/
[14:16] <dednick> Chipaca: ya. just trying to find out how to check why it's showing.
[14:16] <sergiusens> cjwatson: maint is per session too?
[14:17] <sergiusens> works for me if so
[14:17] <dednick> should be only when the "indicator-messages-new" is showing
[14:17] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Yep, if you pass a session name to it
[14:17] <sergiusens> great
[14:17] <mihir> there is no way to detact if my password has changed in my Google account
[14:17] <sergiusens> thanks
[14:17] <Chipaca> dednick: found a way to unblock; take your time
[14:17] <mihir> what would be the right project to file a bug?
[14:17] <cjwatson> sergiusens: In lp:click, "click chroot install" is per-session too, but not in the latest release
[14:17] <sergiusens> gotcha
[14:17] <cjwatson> Actually possibly that's an unlanded branch
[14:18] <mvo_> yeah, I think its approved but has not been uploaded
[14:24] <dednick> Chipaca: dbus-send --session --dest=com.canonical.indicator.messages --print-reply /com/canonical/indicator/messages org.gtk.Actions.DescribeAll | grep -A 10 icon
[14:25] <dednick> Chipaca: on device.
[14:25] <Chipaca> ralsina: could you shell into my phone and run ^ ?
[14:25] <Chipaca> ralsina: pretty please
[14:25] <ralsina> Chipaca: sure
[14:26] <ralsina> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8656591/
[14:26] <Chipaca> dednick: ^
[14:29] <dednick> Chipaca: hm. in that case if it's only u8 thats fiddling with the led, i'm not sure why it's going.
[14:30] <mvo_> sergiusens: thanks, I create the chroot now and see whats going on with the camera build
[14:31] <dednick> Chipaca: might be a bug in the Lights plugin.
[14:32] <Chipaca> dednick: do you know who i should pester about that?
[14:32] <dednick> Chipaca: can you grep unity8 logs for "Failed to turn the light off"
[14:33] <dednick> Chipaca: or rather, just for "light"
[14:33] <ralsina> dednick: no mention of light
[14:45] <mihir> renatu: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/qtorganizer5-eds/fix-1362781/+merge/239046
[14:46] <mihir> renatu: is it failing Jenkins  because of some issue in MP?
[14:53] <renato___> mihir, https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/qtorganizer5-eds/fix-1311165/+merge/237142
[14:54] <mihir> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/qtorganizer5-eds/fix-1311165/+merge/237142
[15:02] <dednick> Chipaca: i'm afraid i'm at a bit of a loss on it. Best guess is that the u8 interactive with the lights interface is buggy. renato did that work.
[15:02] <dednick> *u8 interaction
[15:04] <dednick> Chipaca: possibly if u8 crashed while you had a notification and the screen was off, then it can stay on.
[15:04] <dednick> Chipaca: which is probably the case! can you raise a bug please?
[15:07] <Chipaca> dednick: um. Yes, but you'll probably have to edit it :)
[15:07] <Chipaca> dednick: is this against unity8?
[15:08] <dednick> Chipaca: ya
[15:08] <Chipaca> dednick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1385331
[15:09] <Chipaca> renato___: ^
[15:11] <ogra_> pmcgowan, bug 1385332
[15:11] <ogra_> not sure if there is any solution for this
[15:17] <Chipaca> dednick: I'd *love* for push notifications to be able to set the led colour :)
[15:19] <gatox> seb128, ping
[15:19] <seb128> gatox, hey
[15:20] <gatox> seb128, hi, did you have the chance to take a look at my branch?
[15:20] <seb128> gatox, not yet but I saw that charles did
[15:22] <cyphermox> kenvandine: does your gaming engine have support for HID gaming devices?
[15:23] <dednick> Chipaca: i'll just pretend i didnt hear that ;)
[15:25] <seb128> gatox, can you reply to his comment?
[15:25] <seb128> gatox, code looks fine to me otherwise but I'm unsure how to test it
[15:26] <gatox> seb128, i added the testing steps in the description and in the test plan
[15:26] <seb128> gatox, ok, I'm in a meeting but going to look at that after it
[15:26] <gatox> seb128, ack
[15:28] <ogra_> pmcgowan, oh, i think i have an idea how to solve the above issue ... added to the bug
[15:28] <pmcgowan> ack
[15:29] <ogra_> (not sure who should own it though ... i filed it against unity8 for now)
[15:32] <ogra_> Saviq, is bug 1385332 actually a unity thing ? (turning on the screen when a notification comes in)
[15:33] <Saviq> ogra_, yeah, my opinion is we should do proximity in that case, but bug #1358343 disagrees to some extent
[15:33]  * ogra_ checks
[15:39] <ogra_> Saviq, hmm, i doubt the "swipe to take call" helps with notification wakeups
[15:39] <Saviq> ogra_, of course, does not
[15:39] <ogra_> and specifically with the lock screen
[15:39] <Saviq> ogra_, it's all just butt-dialing
[15:39] <ogra_> heh, yeah
[15:40] <Saviq> ogra_, what I mean is that we proposed proximity in the phonecall use case, and was argued against
[15:40] <ogra_> yeah ... rsalveti sits next to me ... i'll punch him til he changes his mind ;)
[15:53] <mvo_> sergiusens: I just tested your earlier failure on my 14.10 and it seems to be working ok with the current click/click-chroot
[15:54] <rsalveti> Saviq: ogra_: yeah, the only ideal solution is have a gesture
[15:54] <sergiusens> mvo_: that's a bummer; I just got to a good click version and seeing the issue still
[15:54] <rsalveti> we shouldn't use proximity because there are a bunch of use cases that might fail
[15:54] <sergiusens> mvo_: turns out bzoltan is backporting click to his ppa with a mangled version preventing proper upgrades
[15:54] <ogra_> rsalveti, how would a gesture have helped me in my case ?
[15:54] <sergiusens> mvo_: but it didn't solve my issue :-/
[15:55] <mvo_> sergiusens: and the click-chroot is freshly created you said? hmmm
[15:55] <Saviq> rsalveti, it's not about the notification
[15:55] <sergiusens> mvo_: yes
[15:55] <Saviq> rsalveti, it's about the fact that you get to swipe the greeter away
[15:55] <ogra_> rsalveti, my device obviously swiped away the susermetircs screen and punched in PIN numbers
[15:55] <Saviq> rsalveti, because you can now swipe it from anywhere on the screen
[15:55] <Saviq> (by design)
[15:57] <MosesEX> !ops
[15:58] <rsalveti> Saviq: right, bug give me an example on how proximity would help you on that
[15:58] <MosesEX> !ops
[15:59] <rsalveti> ogra_: when accepting calls, you need a gesture
[15:59] <Saviq> rsalveti, we wouldn't enable screen or input until you take the phone out
[15:59] <Saviq> of your pocket
[15:59] <MosesEX> !ops
[15:59] <rsalveti> Saviq: right, but now you have a small piece of paper or finger on top of your phone
[16:00] <rsalveti> then you suddenly can't interact with the screen
[16:00] <Saviq> rsalveti, I think we should just see what others do
[16:00] <ogra_> yeah
[16:00] <sergiusens> mvo_: how are you creating the chroot? is -papi, -qml and sans -.* the same these days?
[16:00] <Saviq> rsalveti, my N9 did not turn on the screen automagically
[16:00] <Saviq> rsalveti, if proximity was toggled
[16:00] <rsalveti> right, it's how we're actually handling the notifications
[16:00] <Saviq> rsalveti, granted, it worked from 1cm away, not 10cm away like on mako...
[16:00] <rsalveti> android doesn't enable the screen unless it's a call
[16:01] <rsalveti> not sure how iphone is doing
[16:01] <ogra_> it wasnt really critical since the lock-down state only persists for 3 min
[16:01] <ogra_> but if we ever change that behavior to permanently lock ...
[16:02] <Saviq> ogra_, I don't think we will
[16:02] <ogra_> ok
[16:02] <Saviq> aanyway
[16:02] <Saviq> still bad experience
[16:02] <ogra_> i know jolla locks you down permanently
[16:03] <ogra_> you can only get out of it via developer mode ...
[16:03] <Saviq> ogra_, actually what happens I think is that you butt-tap the notification, and that swipes the greeter away
[16:03] <ogra_> or re-flashing
[16:03] <ogra_> ah
[16:03] <Saviq> ogra_, if you didn't have PIN
[16:03] <ogra_> so i didnt "butt swipe"
[16:03] <rsalveti> Saviq: it's all a matter of defining how notifications should be
[16:03] <rsalveti> more a design question I guess
[16:03] <Saviq> rsalveti, totally
[16:03] <Saviq> ogra_, your phone would launch the app and you'd butt-call, butt-whatever
[16:04] <rsalveti> and one problem we have, is that once your screen gets up after a notification, it's stay on for 60 seconds
[16:04] <ogra_> yeah
[16:04] <rsalveti> not only like 3 seconds or something
[16:31] <fxdave> Hi! I want install this to my sony xperia p
[16:31] <fxdave> Can i do this?
[16:34] <sergiusens> mvo_: lp:~sergiusens/uci-engine/click
[16:35] <sergiusens> mvo_: click-builder/click_builder/clickbuilder.py
[16:52] <ksbalaji> I'm on Samsung tab3. I've screwed up my usn-ubuntu-booter >how> to repair usb drive using tablet?
[17:42] <oSoMoN> tedg, is there a bug to track the issue where url-dispatcher refuses to handle "tel:+1234567890"-like (i.e. slashless) URLs?
[17:48] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: ted is doing a session atm
[17:48] <oSoMoN> oh, okay, thanks
[17:55] <davidcalle> rschroll, https://reviews.ubuntu.com/click/api/1.0/reviews/?package_name=com.ubuntu.developer.rschroll.beru
[18:58] <bzoltan> sergiusens: please educate me if I do something wrong :) I promise it is not intentional
[19:16] <hellslinger> hi guys, does anyone know if multitouch will be supported on thinkpads with clickpad? I've been through the wiki and have filed a bug but haven't heard anything in a couple of months. Any ideas of something I can try?
[19:17] <cgregan> Anyone seeing a problem with adding a twitter account?
[19:24] <genii> Just moral issues.
[19:35] <taiebot> No one seeing this bug it has been marked as invalid but i swear i have some bluetooth profile which are always present and they are my old phones so it should come from my simcard https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1382844
[19:40] <veebers> mzanetti: hey, the unity8 ap tests aren't still affected by this (old) bug right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1154107
[20:14] <ogra_> mzanetti, bug 1385473 to your hands
[21:52] <gcollura> I have a Three Italy sim, when it doesn't have coverage for 3 it goes on roaming on Tim (another italian operator). With ubuntu touch devel-proposed, Tim is the only carrier available in settings, even if other phones have 3's coverage. So my phone (mako) is always in roaming mode. is this a know bug?