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* wxl waves01:18
sgclarkhiyas01:21
wxlalmost meeting time yay :)01:24
sgclark:)01:24
QIIIgiddy with anticipation01:24
wxlhahahah01:25
wxlalready installed utopic?01:25
QIIIas soon as it was in dev01:25
sgclarkkubuntu dev, had it for awhile :)01:25
wxlsgclark: non-finals don't count :)01:25
wxlsgclark: you running plasma 5?01:26
QIIIit's final now ...01:26
sgclarklol it it final now :) yeah plasma 5 here01:26
wxlyeah well given all the last minute world respins final wasn't final until nearly the last minute :/01:26
sgclarkyeah :(01:26
wxli haven't tried plasma 5 yet. is it stable enough that i won't have to be messing with it if i use it on my work machine?01:27
sgclarkit is in heavy production still, so nah I can't suggest it on a production machine01:27
* wxl nods01:27
wxlwell i look forward to it01:27
wxldespite spending most of my time with lubuntu contribution wise, we use kubuntu at work01:28
sgclarkerr heavy development lol01:28
wxli understood :)01:29
wxlok well01:30
wxl#startmeeting New Team Leader01:31
meetingologyMeeting started Fri Oct 24 01:31:20 2014 UTC.  The chair is wxl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.01:31
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick01:31
wxlwell, just trying to introduce myself and answer any questions.01:32
wxllong story short, ubuntu oregon needed someone and someone mentioned it to me and i said i'd help. here i am :)01:32
sgclarkyay :)01:32
wxli'm release manager and head of qa for lubuntu. i also help with support, docs, bugs, etc.01:32
wxlthat's more or less the ubuntu connection :)01:32
wxlbeen in oregon for a few decades or so, having moved from ohio01:32
wxlwhere we have like no trees and snow. so i'm here to stay XD01:33
wxland that's that.01:34
bkerensahello01:34
wxlhi bkerensa01:34
wxl#topic Meeting Time01:34
* wxl kicks meetingology01:34
bkerensa;)01:34
wxl#progress Meeting Time01:34
bkerensa:s01:34
wxlnothing there either hm01:34
bkerensa!topic Meeting Time01:34
lubotu1bkerensa: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:34
bkerensaoh pfft01:34
wxlwrong bot :)01:34
bkerensa#topic Meeting Time01:34
wxloh well, so we're moving on to Meeting Time01:34
wxl630 thursday ok for everyone?01:35
wxllater, sooner, different day preferred?01:35
QIIIFine here.01:35
sgclarkgood here01:35
bkerensa#topic Meeting Time01:35
bkerensaoh well worth a try01:35
wxlbkerensa: don't hurt yourself over there :)01:35
bkerensayou could do it without the bot?01:35
wxlbkerensa: will you be able to join us at this time, too?01:35
bkerensait depends on the day :) my schedule is dynamic in nature01:36
* bkerensa will try and be here next thursday01:36
bkerensaany plans for a topic party?01:36
wxltopic party or party topic? :)01:37
QIIIparty party01:38
wxlwe can move on to that next01:39
wxl#topic Release Party01:39
wxlanyone got any plans?01:39
sgclarknewish to Oregon.. don't know anyone to "party" with lol. Just been IRC partying01:41
wxlwell ok01:43
bkerensaRight so usually in the past I would organize one... fund a venue and some sponsors for food and other things01:43
wxlif you have any folks interested in linux or ubuntu, you could make a little impromtu party sgclark. evagelize!01:44
bkerensasince I do not have the time for that anymore the best I can offer is that if anyone wants to handle the organizing and finding sponsors... I can ask Mozilla or Freegeek to host us01:44
wxlbkerensa: was this something you had ubuntu covering or you id on your own?01:44
bkerensamostly sponsors but some was out of pocket01:44
bkerensaUbuntu did not have community funding at the time01:44
bkerensastill yet I hear the process takes many weeks01:45
sgclarkit does, but possible01:45
wxlyiiiikes01:45
wxlwell i can at least look into it01:45
wxli don't have much in the way to offer out of pocket wise :(01:45
wxlmaybe we could put a fund together. i can certainly help01:46
wxl#action wxl will look into ubuntu funding for release party01:46
meetingologyACTION: wxl will look into ubuntu funding for release party01:46
wxlhuh you'll listen to that?01:46
wxlweird bot01:46
wxlok well i have one other thing to discuss01:47
wxlthen we'll move on to any other ideas anyone has01:47
wxland then we can just ramble XD01:47
wxl#topic Approval01:47
wxl#meetingtopic Approval01:48
wxloh well01:48
wxlanyways i'm surprised to find our loco isn't officially approved01:48
wxlit does have some benefits01:48
wxlbasically all we have to do is keep on doing our thing01:48
shirgallThe /topic says there's no IRC meeting. It's lying.01:48
wxlif we can get this done, ubuntu will cover hosting which wouldbe nice01:48
wxlshirgall: yeah i thought meetingology was supposed to take care of that but it's being a poopy bot.01:49
sgclarklol01:49
shirgallmeetingology: are you alive?01:49
meetingologyshirgall: Error: "are" is not a valid command.01:49
wxlso first here's some info on the team verification/approval guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines01:49
wxlso the one thing we need to do if you read the criteria is really is to do some stuff01:51
wxli think the salem ubuntu hour is a big help in that regard01:51
* sgclark is willing to donate time for this01:51
wxla release party would help01:51
sgclarkI have no friends to throw parties heh, but I can help with alot of that other stuff01:52
wxlif anyone anywhere on the team can do something that either promotes ubuntu or helps contribute to ubuntu (bug jam for example), that would make a difference01:52
wxlsgclark: well you could check out the local lug or even something like the library01:52
wxli had a thought about doing a talk at my daughter's school :)01:52
sgclarkdid I mention I was shy? :)01:52
wxlwell that doesn't help XD01:52
sgclarklol01:53
wxlwe can figure that out, though01:53
wxlthe reason i bring up this topic is so that we can keep our collective eyes open for opportunities01:53
sgclarkI am heavily involved in Kubuntu development though01:53
wxlso you could wrangle some of the local kubuntu folks maybe01:53
sgclarkso my name is scattered about ubuntu01:53
wxlobviously these are physical events local to oregon01:54
sgclarkwell I work with a bunch of folks across the pond, I really don't know anyone here sorry :(01:54
wxlright well there ya go XD01:54
wxli think once we get into a "groove" of doing things, it'll come naturally01:55
wxli don't think this should necessarily be difficult01:55
wxlwell, that's all i got01:56
wxlany other topics, interesting events, etc?01:56
wxlbtw if you didn't noticed, i posted on a talk mozilla lars is having in eug next month01:56
wxlseems like i twill be interesting01:56
sgclarkWell, LinuxFestNW might be a venue to go to to get ourselves to meet and find others, but it isnt until April I think, but an idea01:56
wxlyes and a great idea01:56
wxli have any plan of making that happen01:56
wxli met one of the guys at oscon and have his card stashed somewhere01:56
sgclarksame01:57
wxli should get on that01:57
sgclark:)01:57
wxl#agenda wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW!01:57
wxloh wrong command01:57
wxl#action wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW!01:57
meetingologyACTION: wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW!01:57
bkerensawxl will grab Ubuntu banner and cloth from me too!01:58
bkerensa:)01:58
wxlooh01:58
wxl#action wxl will coerce bkerensa to give up the Ubuntu banner and cloth01:58
meetingologyACTION: wxl will coerce bkerensa to give up the Ubuntu banner and cloth01:58
sgclarklol01:59
sgclarkI know KDE and Kubuntu will want presence there, so I will conjure up some garb from them too01:59
wxlexcellent01:59
wxlthe guy said something about not having a lot of space he might have us share a booth with some other lug/loco02:00
wxlnow we just need stickers02:01
wxlwe could do a ubuntu logo inside the green heart on the white oregon state sticker :)02:01
sgclarksounds good to me02:02
sgclarkdo we have all that other stuff, wiki, launchpad forum?02:03
wxlyeah02:03
wxljust no website currently02:03
wxlthe forums are kind of dead02:03
wxlwhich is fine by me, i hate forums XD02:03
QIIIme too02:03
sgclarkOn the global activities.. we all have to attend these together?02:03
wxlsgclark: no, not at all. it's a team effort02:04
sgclarkok02:04
wxlthink of it like you do development02:04
wxlyour whole team doesn't work on every bug02:04
sgclarkgotcha02:04
sgclarkright02:04
wxlnor does every member work every cycle02:04
sgclarkwonder if my akademy trip counts. ubuntu paid for it02:05
wxlwe also might want to just do something like this, spreading the word of ubuntu http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/09/16/ubuntu-in-oregon02:05
wxlwuzzat?02:05
sgclarkI will also write a blog post02:05
wxlakademy is in eu right??02:06
sgclarkakademy is KDE's developer convetion, hackfest, bug jam all in one02:06
sgclarkyeah02:06
wxlyeah probably not the same. everything's under the banner of work in oregon02:06
wxlthat's my understanding of it at least02:06
sgclarkok02:06
sgclarkthere were ubuntu folks there :)02:06
sgclarkbut ok02:07
wxli'm sure there were :)02:07
wxlheck, i would have gone and i'm really a lubuntu guy :)02:07
sgclarkhehe, it was a great experience02:07
wxlactually come to think of it, putting brochures like in that aforementioned link, in public places around the state is a great idea02:08
wxlyou still have a copy of that brochure bkerensa ?02:08
sgclarkA good start is the LFNW and release parties.02:09
wxli think i might make these meetings 30 mins long inn the fuure02:10
wxluntil we have lots to talk about :)02:10
wxl#action wxl will harass bkerensa for copies of his old brochure!02:11
meetingologyACTION: wxl will harass bkerensa for copies of his old brochure!02:11
wxl#action wxl will trim down future meetings to 30 minute length02:11
meetingologyACTION: wxl will trim down future meetings to 30 minute length02:11
wxli'm going to end the meeting early "officially"02:12
wxl#endmeeting02:12
meetingologyMeeting ended Fri Oct 24 02:12:55 2014 UTC.02:12
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-or/2014/ubuntu-us-or.2014-10-24-01.31.moin.txt02:12
wxlinteresting02:13
wxlit actually picked up on the change in topics02:13
wxlweird02:13
wxlany who02:13
wxllet's talk kubuntu sgclark02:14
wxlyou planning on rolling plasma5 into 15.04?02:14
sgclarkThat is the plan!02:14
QIIIyay02:14
sgclarkwe'll see how stable it is though02:14
wxllots more work to do?02:14
sgclarkyeah02:14
wxllubuntu is planning on starting the transition to qt from gtk this cycle02:14
wxlwe have lots of work to do02:15
wxlbickering about default apps02:15
wxlfor example02:15
wxlnot to mention the actual WORK :)02:15
sgclarkkeeping me very busy :) but it is actually stable as far as performance, just alot of missing functionality02:15
wxli think there's a hope that we can do it in 1504 but i'm nto sure02:15
wxlyeah well whern it comes to kubuntu functionality is everything XD02:16
bkerensawxl: brochure? They are on the team launchpad in the team papa02:16
bkerensa:)02:16
bkerensappa*02:16
wxlbkerensa: oh didn't even notice the ppa. cool thx!02:16
sgclarkohh we have a team on launchpad? can I be added please!02:16
wxloh sure02:16
sgclarkI have web experience.. I can help with site, but atm it seems our domain name is for sale? :)02:17
wxldone sgclark :)02:17
sgclarkgreat thanks02:17
wxlderp i see no ppa bkerensa02:17
wxlyou sure that's not YOUR ppa? XD02:17
bkerensaah looks like it is not in a ppa02:18
bkerensahttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-or/+junk/promotional-materials02:18
bkerensathere it is02:18
wxloic02:18
wxlthx bkerensa02:18
* QIII wanders off to take the case off this stupid laptop and poke around a bit inside it again. Later.02:24
wxlgood luck02:24
sgclarkis Salem the only "ubuntu" meeting we have? I have troubles making that distance02:24
wxlyeah me too02:25
wxlcurrently it is02:25
wxlthat i know of!02:25
wxli'm surprised there's nothing doing in pdx02:25
sgclarkI know there is a "PLUG" in Portland, perhaps we could recruit lol02:25
wxli've become one of the organizers for our lug so i hoping to suggest a ubuntu-specific meeting with them02:26
sgclarkyeah me too02:26
wxland that was my idea there too02:26
WalterNtalking02:26
wxlgoing through the lug it would be easy to swap members :)02:26
sgclarkoh? I need to sort out dates to go02:26
sgclarkI work with Euros so I get up at like 2 AM lol02:26
wxlyeah you should go down and infiltrate :)02:27
sgclarkbut pre planned I could make pdx02:27
wxlwhere are you again?02:27
sgclarkHillsboro02:27
wxlyeah that's definitely outside the general scope of eugene XD02:27
sgclarkthat where yo are?02:28
wxlyep02:28
sgclarks/yo/you/02:28
sgclarkgotcha, so we are all over the place lol02:29
wxlindeed we are but mostly in the valley02:29
wxli think that's one of our larger challenges is that we're a big state02:30
wxli should say that's my challenge XD02:30
WalterNI'm over in tillamook :P02:31
wxltrying to herd cats in a big pastureland XD02:31
sgclarklol02:31
wxloh yeah i noticed your name in the roster, WalterN. being another walter and all!02:31
sgclarkooh Tillamook, nice :)02:31
WalterNroster? where?02:31
wxloh02:31
wxlwell i think i did02:31
wxli noticed another walter02:31
sgclarkyeah, I love exploring Oregon, so beautiful!02:31
WalterNsgclark: I dont02:31
wxlme too!!!!!02:32
wxlyou DON'T love oregon, WalterN ? :)02:32
WalterNeverything I want is in my room, why would I want to leave everything I want?02:32
wxlhahahahah02:32
sgclarklol02:32
sgclarkwell02:32
sgclarkthere is that02:32
* ObrienDave waves from Grants Pass02:33
sgclarkanyway, we can make this an advantage, more area to cover in regards to gathering momentum02:33
wxlhi ObrienDave !02:33
wxlindeed02:33
* sgclark wave02:33
wxlone thing that can help our loco get verified is turning folks into ubuntu members02:33
WalterNtgm4883, me and a couple others started Ubuntu-Oregon as a group... kinda had the same problem back then.. lots of people but all over the state02:33
WalterNbasically started anyway02:34
wxlone thing that might be nice is a general talk about how to contribute and/or how to become a member02:34
wxlWalterN: so this all started with you, eh?02:34
WalterNheh no02:34
WalterN"basically" :P for oregons team I was around early on... before the oregon team there was the PDX team that was inactive02:35
sgclarkyeah, I am a member, so I can sorta help- with that02:35
wxlsgclark: ditto02:35
WalterNit was kinda my fault activity died down for a while for the oregon team too... meh02:36
wxlwhat02:36
wxloops02:36
wxlwhta i'd like to do is get some key folks in the various major areas02:36
tgm4883I'm here, but I'm working on my NAS so ping me if you need something02:36
tgm4883I put the blame squarely on WalterN ;P02:36
wxlportland, salem, eugene, southern oregon02:36
sgclarkyeah it needs to be a team effort02:37
WalterNtgm4883: lol02:37
WalterNtgm4883: at least you are still around :P02:37
tgm4883eh, I haven't been to a meeting in awhile02:37
wxland those people ideally would be bold enough to reach out to people in their general area02:37
wxland then we could all support one another and keep each other updated on what's going on02:38
WalterNtgm4883: then we are even... neither have I :P02:38
wxli have a feeling that might take some work/networking but i think we can get there02:38
wxlit's only too bad you're shy sgclark :)02:38
WalterNtgm4883: the difference now is I own a machine shop02:39
sgclarklol I survived akademy and actually did a release interview today, I am getting better lol02:39
WalterNand I'm extremely busy with that02:39
wxlooooh that's cool WalterN02:39
* wxl works for a bike manufacturer02:39
sgclarkbut taking on all of Portland may be too much lol02:39
wxlsgclark: well, yeah, but i wouldn't set the goals as lofty as that. start with plug.02:40
WalterNwxl: I make lots of copper parts :P02:40
sgclarkwxl: challenge accepted02:40
wxlWalterN: copper? for which exactly?02:40
wxlsgclark: yay :)02:40
* ObrienDave does MasterCam and SolidWorks02:40
wxlvery cool ObrienDave!02:41
WalterNwxl: high current electrical connectors for a certain class of oil rigs02:41
wxlWalterN: is this all local?02:41
sgclarkoh oh, I so need a bike02:41
wxlsgclark: http://bikefriday.com02:41
wxlif you see anything you like i'll get you a good ideal02:41
wxluh02:41
wxldeal02:41
sgclark:) thanks!02:41
WalterNwxl: no, the parts get plated in portand then they come back and assembled, shipped to some other state, then sold to places all over the world02:42
wxli'm as much a bike advocate as a FOSS advocate, so if you want to get a bike, i'll make it happen :)02:42
wxlWalterN: well that's a nice thing for your business!02:42
tgm4883Bikers, pfft. Unicycles for lyfe!02:42
wxlsgclark: most of what we make is folding bikes btu the non-folders are a bit less expensive— and they're adjustable to fit everyone02:42
wxls/bike/cycling/02:42
wxltgm4883: i don't discriminate against number of wheels :)02:43
WalterNwxl: I want a bike with an internal gear changer that changes from low gear to high gear at about 12mph02:43
wxlsgclark: and we have this new cargo bike called the Haul-a-Day which is super rad02:43
sgclarkcool, I am a girl and these look painful haha, but I am sure you can accomodate :)02:43
wxlWalterN: you only want two gears? :)02:43
WalterNthats typically all I use when I have more02:44
wxlsgclark: we accomodate anyone, seriously. most of our customers are in their retirement years. everything's custom02:44
WalterNmaybe three gears02:44
wxlWalterN: you might look into a nuvinci 36002:44
wxlit's a cvt02:44
WalterNCVTs are nice :302:45
WalterNlinky?02:45
wxlsupposedly they have an automatic shifting option02:45
wxltrying to find that02:45
wxl1s02:45
sgclarknice :) wxl: I will look it all over and ping you when I find what I can convince my husband to get me (open source does not pay me :))02:45
wxlhttp://www.fallbrooktech.com/cycling/harmony02:45
wxlsgclark: as i said, being an employee there, i can get you a stupid crazy good deal.02:45
sgclarkcool :)02:45
wxlsgclark: i can also source used parts if you want to make it super cheap :)02:47
sgclarkwoohoo!02:47
wxllike i said, i'm a cycling advocate02:47
WalterNheh02:47
wxlif you want a bike, i'll figure out how to get you one XD02:47
sgclarklove it02:47
WalterNbiking here on the coast sucks most of the time :P02:47
wxlplease tell me that's sarcasm, WalterN :)02:47
WalterNnot really02:48
WalterNlike right now02:48
WalterNits raining and blowing02:48
wxloh man02:48
sgclarkhave not had a bike working since I moved here and it shows :(02:48
wxli'm from cleveland02:48
wxlit's not snow02:48
wxltherefore it's fine02:48
wxl:)02:48
WalterNI lived in montana, and thats fine too02:48
WalterNbut meh...02:48
wxlsgclark: yeah the best way to do it is to integrate it into your daily life. that's why the cargo bike is so cool. it's like a cycle truck!02:48
sgclarkI have lived... umm many places lol, Arizona the longest02:49
wxlWalterN: admittedly it does require gear that isn't necessary when it's nice out02:49
sgclarkyep, In AZ I rode my bike everywhere. including work02:49
wxli used to be a messenger in cleveland02:49
sgclarknice!02:49
wxlnow i'm old and fat02:50
wxli still ride every day XD02:50
sgclarkI am old and getting umm fluffy02:50
wxlbrb02:50
WalterNfluffy... ha02:51
sgclark:)02:51
WalterNhttps://derpibooru.org/42032302:51
sgclarklol02:51
WalterNha... butt science! http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-butt-robots-2014-1002:55
sgclarkLOL02:56
sgclarknice02:56
wxloh there we go03:16
wxli was starving03:17
sgclarkhehe03:17
wxlomg03:17
wxlthis butt thing is ummmm weird03:17
sgclarklol03:17
WalterNheh03:18
wxlhttp://sixgun.org/files/utopic-unicorn.jpg03:18
WalterNoh that picture03:19
WalterNheh03:19
wxli mentioned it on #ubuntu-release and kinda took everyone by surprise03:19
wxli guess not everyone has a sense of humor :)03:19
WalterNmeh03:20
sgclarkok so I have started my infiltration of PLUG, but I must call it a night :( I have literally been up since 2AM, I look forward to (x)ubuntu  takihng over Oregon and am here for it all, ping me if anyone wants to chat about ideas etc!03:20
WalterNthats too bad for everyone then03:20
wxlthx a ton sgclark03:20
sgclarkoh my03:20
wxland great meeting you officially03:20
WalterN(PS, I dont actually use Ubuntu anymore) :-x03:20
wxlEGADS03:21
sgclarkyeah, it is too bad we missed each other at OSCON :(03:21
wxli know :(03:21
wxlwell i've already got the time off work for next year :)03:21
wxland with linuxfestnw…03:21
WalterNI recently switched all my computers over to debian testing03:21
wxlwell isn't that ironic03:22
wxlit's the pre-dev version of ubuntu release+1 :)03:22
WalterNyeah03:22
wxlto be fair i don't use ubuntu either03:23
WalterNits just easier for my headless server03:23
wxli use ubuntu server on mine03:23
sgclarkwell WalterN: we moved all of our Frameworks/Plasma5 to debian git :) so we are working close with debian, but still very much ubuntu at the ssaem time03:23
WalterNsgclark: we?03:24
sgclarkKubuntu03:24
wxlwell as far as i understand it ubutnu relies on debian and contributes back to further improve it03:24
* sgclark is kubuntu dev03:24
wxli need to learn packaging03:24
sgclarkyep, now that release has happened, I get to merge everything with debian!03:25
wxlyay :)03:25
sgclarkI can help you wxl03:25
wxlsgclark: what would you suggest as the best way to learn?03:26
WalterNmeh03:27
WalterNwxl: wanna help me deburr and package these parts I'm making right now?03:27
sgclarkwxl: I have to be honest, the mastermind behin Kubuntu was nice to show me and then reviewed all my attepts till I got it right03:27
wxlWalterN: wrong kind of packaging but my deburring tool is in the garage :)03:28
WalterNI have plenty of extra03:28
sgclarkwxl: pbuilder is a good start, also you will need chroots if you work with different builds like I do. I suggest schroot.03:29
wxli've heard of that (schroot)03:30
sgclarkwxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot was a good staring point for me03:31
sgclarkbleh yeah I would like to blame my keyboard, but I am getting snoozy. Ping me any time for questions wxl :) I must sleep, go through that tutorial though wxl :)03:32
wxlkthx sgclark03:32
wxlnight!03:32
sgclarknp :) night all03:33
* wxlS5 waves16:01
* WalterN flails then heads off to work16:04
* sgclark waves16:05
wxlS5I'm bored in the doctor's office so naturally I turn to IRC ;-)16:12
bkerensawxl: alas it looks like a domain squatter has registered ubuntu-oregon.org can you ping the people at IS and cc: legal@canonical.com and see if they can send a letter about transferring ownership to Canonical21:49
bkerensaPretty sure Canonical has used trademark to muscle domains for LoCo's in the past21:49

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