[01:18] * wxl waves [01:21] hiyas [01:24] almost meeting time yay :) [01:24] :) [01:24] giddy with anticipation [01:25] hahahah [01:25] already installed utopic? [01:25] as soon as it was in dev [01:25] kubuntu dev, had it for awhile :) [01:25] sgclark: non-finals don't count :) [01:26] sgclark: you running plasma 5? [01:26] it's final now ... [01:26] lol it it final now :) yeah plasma 5 here [01:26] yeah well given all the last minute world respins final wasn't final until nearly the last minute :/ [01:26] yeah :( [01:27] i haven't tried plasma 5 yet. is it stable enough that i won't have to be messing with it if i use it on my work machine? [01:27] it is in heavy production still, so nah I can't suggest it on a production machine [01:27] * wxl nods [01:27] well i look forward to it [01:28] despite spending most of my time with lubuntu contribution wise, we use kubuntu at work [01:28] err heavy development lol [01:29] i understood :) [01:30] ok well [01:31] #startmeeting New Team Leader [01:31] Meeting started Fri Oct 24 01:31:20 2014 UTC. The chair is wxl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [01:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [01:32] well, just trying to introduce myself and answer any questions. [01:32] long story short, ubuntu oregon needed someone and someone mentioned it to me and i said i'd help. here i am :) [01:32] yay :) [01:32] i'm release manager and head of qa for lubuntu. i also help with support, docs, bugs, etc. [01:32] that's more or less the ubuntu connection :) [01:32] been in oregon for a few decades or so, having moved from ohio [01:33] where we have like no trees and snow. so i'm here to stay XD [01:34] and that's that. [01:34] hello [01:34] hi bkerensa [01:34] #topic Meeting Time [01:34] * wxl kicks meetingology [01:34] ;) [01:34] #progress Meeting Time [01:34] :s [01:34] nothing there either hm [01:34] !topic Meeting Time [01:34] bkerensa: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:34] oh pfft [01:34] wrong bot :) [01:34] #topic Meeting Time [01:34] oh well, so we're moving on to Meeting Time [01:35] 630 thursday ok for everyone? [01:35] later, sooner, different day preferred? [01:35] Fine here. [01:35] good here [01:35] #topic Meeting Time [01:35] oh well worth a try [01:35] bkerensa: don't hurt yourself over there :) [01:35] you could do it without the bot? [01:35] bkerensa: will you be able to join us at this time, too? [01:36] it depends on the day :) my schedule is dynamic in nature [01:36] * bkerensa will try and be here next thursday [01:36] any plans for a topic party? [01:37] topic party or party topic? :) [01:38] party party [01:39] we can move on to that next [01:39] #topic Release Party [01:39] anyone got any plans? [01:41] newish to Oregon.. don't know anyone to "party" with lol. Just been IRC partying [01:43] well ok [01:43] Right so usually in the past I would organize one... fund a venue and some sponsors for food and other things [01:44] if you have any folks interested in linux or ubuntu, you could make a little impromtu party sgclark. evagelize! [01:44] since I do not have the time for that anymore the best I can offer is that if anyone wants to handle the organizing and finding sponsors... I can ask Mozilla or Freegeek to host us [01:44] bkerensa: was this something you had ubuntu covering or you id on your own? [01:44] mostly sponsors but some was out of pocket [01:44] Ubuntu did not have community funding at the time [01:45] still yet I hear the process takes many weeks [01:45] it does, but possible [01:45] yiiiikes [01:45] well i can at least look into it [01:45] i don't have much in the way to offer out of pocket wise :( [01:46] maybe we could put a fund together. i can certainly help [01:46] #action wxl will look into ubuntu funding for release party [01:46] ACTION: wxl will look into ubuntu funding for release party [01:46] huh you'll listen to that? [01:46] weird bot [01:47] ok well i have one other thing to discuss [01:47] then we'll move on to any other ideas anyone has [01:47] and then we can just ramble XD [01:47] #topic Approval [01:48] #meetingtopic Approval [01:48] oh well [01:48] anyways i'm surprised to find our loco isn't officially approved [01:48] it does have some benefits [01:48] basically all we have to do is keep on doing our thing [01:48] The /topic says there's no IRC meeting. It's lying. [01:48] if we can get this done, ubuntu will cover hosting which wouldbe nice [01:49] shirgall: yeah i thought meetingology was supposed to take care of that but it's being a poopy bot. [01:49] lol [01:49] meetingology: are you alive? [01:49] shirgall: Error: "are" is not a valid command. [01:49] so first here's some info on the team verification/approval guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines [01:51] so the one thing we need to do if you read the criteria is really is to do some stuff [01:51] i think the salem ubuntu hour is a big help in that regard [01:51] * sgclark is willing to donate time for this [01:51] a release party would help [01:52] I have no friends to throw parties heh, but I can help with alot of that other stuff [01:52] if anyone anywhere on the team can do something that either promotes ubuntu or helps contribute to ubuntu (bug jam for example), that would make a difference [01:52] sgclark: well you could check out the local lug or even something like the library [01:52] i had a thought about doing a talk at my daughter's school :) [01:52] did I mention I was shy? :) [01:52] well that doesn't help XD [01:53] lol [01:53] we can figure that out, though [01:53] the reason i bring up this topic is so that we can keep our collective eyes open for opportunities [01:53] I am heavily involved in Kubuntu development though [01:53] so you could wrangle some of the local kubuntu folks maybe [01:53] so my name is scattered about ubuntu [01:54] obviously these are physical events local to oregon [01:54] well I work with a bunch of folks across the pond, I really don't know anyone here sorry :( [01:54] right well there ya go XD [01:55] i think once we get into a "groove" of doing things, it'll come naturally [01:55] i don't think this should necessarily be difficult [01:56] well, that's all i got [01:56] any other topics, interesting events, etc? [01:56] btw if you didn't noticed, i posted on a talk mozilla lars is having in eug next month [01:56] seems like i twill be interesting [01:56] Well, LinuxFestNW might be a venue to go to to get ourselves to meet and find others, but it isnt until April I think, but an idea [01:56] yes and a great idea [01:56] i have any plan of making that happen [01:56] i met one of the guys at oscon and have his card stashed somewhere [01:57] same [01:57] i should get on that [01:57] :) [01:57] #agenda wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW! [01:57] oh wrong command [01:57] #action wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW! [01:57] ACTION: wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW! [01:58] wxl will grab Ubuntu banner and cloth from me too! [01:58] :) [01:58] ooh [01:58] #action wxl will coerce bkerensa to give up the Ubuntu banner and cloth [01:58] ACTION: wxl will coerce bkerensa to give up the Ubuntu banner and cloth [01:59] lol [01:59] I know KDE and Kubuntu will want presence there, so I will conjure up some garb from them too [01:59] excellent [02:00] the guy said something about not having a lot of space he might have us share a booth with some other lug/loco [02:01] now we just need stickers [02:01] we could do a ubuntu logo inside the green heart on the white oregon state sticker :) [02:02] sounds good to me [02:03] do we have all that other stuff, wiki, launchpad forum? [02:03] yeah [02:03] just no website currently [02:03] the forums are kind of dead [02:03] which is fine by me, i hate forums XD [02:03] me too [02:03] On the global activities.. we all have to attend these together? [02:04] sgclark: no, not at all. it's a team effort [02:04] ok [02:04] think of it like you do development [02:04] your whole team doesn't work on every bug [02:04] gotcha [02:04] right [02:04] nor does every member work every cycle [02:05] wonder if my akademy trip counts. ubuntu paid for it [02:05] we also might want to just do something like this, spreading the word of ubuntu http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/09/16/ubuntu-in-oregon [02:05] wuzzat? [02:05] I will also write a blog post [02:06] akademy is in eu right?? [02:06] akademy is KDE's developer convetion, hackfest, bug jam all in one [02:06] yeah [02:06] yeah probably not the same. everything's under the banner of work in oregon [02:06] that's my understanding of it at least [02:06] ok [02:06] there were ubuntu folks there :) [02:07] but ok [02:07] i'm sure there were :) [02:07] heck, i would have gone and i'm really a lubuntu guy :) [02:07] hehe, it was a great experience [02:08] actually come to think of it, putting brochures like in that aforementioned link, in public places around the state is a great idea [02:08] you still have a copy of that brochure bkerensa ? [02:09] A good start is the LFNW and release parties. [02:10] i think i might make these meetings 30 mins long inn the fuure [02:10] until we have lots to talk about :) [02:11] #action wxl will harass bkerensa for copies of his old brochure! [02:11] ACTION: wxl will harass bkerensa for copies of his old brochure! [02:11] #action wxl will trim down future meetings to 30 minute length [02:11] ACTION: wxl will trim down future meetings to 30 minute length [02:12] i'm going to end the meeting early "officially" [02:12] #endmeeting [02:12] Meeting ended Fri Oct 24 02:12:55 2014 UTC. [02:12] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-or/2014/ubuntu-us-or.2014-10-24-01.31.moin.txt [02:13] interesting [02:13] it actually picked up on the change in topics [02:13] weird [02:13] any who [02:14] let's talk kubuntu sgclark [02:14] you planning on rolling plasma5 into 15.04? [02:14] That is the plan! [02:14] yay [02:14] we'll see how stable it is though [02:14] lots more work to do? [02:14] yeah [02:14] lubuntu is planning on starting the transition to qt from gtk this cycle [02:15] we have lots of work to do [02:15] bickering about default apps [02:15] for example [02:15] not to mention the actual WORK :) [02:15] keeping me very busy :) but it is actually stable as far as performance, just alot of missing functionality [02:15] i think there's a hope that we can do it in 1504 but i'm nto sure [02:16] yeah well whern it comes to kubuntu functionality is everything XD [02:16] wxl: brochure? They are on the team launchpad in the team papa [02:16] :) [02:16] ppa* [02:16] bkerensa: oh didn't even notice the ppa. cool thx! [02:16] ohh we have a team on launchpad? can I be added please! [02:16] oh sure [02:17] I have web experience.. I can help with site, but atm it seems our domain name is for sale? :) [02:17] done sgclark :) [02:17] great thanks [02:17] derp i see no ppa bkerensa [02:17] you sure that's not YOUR ppa? XD [02:18] ah looks like it is not in a ppa [02:18] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-or/+junk/promotional-materials [02:18] there it is [02:18] oic [02:18] thx bkerensa [02:24] * QIII wanders off to take the case off this stupid laptop and poke around a bit inside it again. Later. [02:24] good luck [02:24] is Salem the only "ubuntu" meeting we have? I have troubles making that distance [02:25] yeah me too [02:25] currently it is [02:25] that i know of! [02:25] i'm surprised there's nothing doing in pdx [02:25] I know there is a "PLUG" in Portland, perhaps we could recruit lol [02:26] i've become one of the organizers for our lug so i hoping to suggest a ubuntu-specific meeting with them [02:26] yeah me too [02:26] and that was my idea there too [02:26] talking [02:26] going through the lug it would be easy to swap members :) [02:26] oh? I need to sort out dates to go [02:26] I work with Euros so I get up at like 2 AM lol [02:27] yeah you should go down and infiltrate :) [02:27] but pre planned I could make pdx [02:27] where are you again? [02:27] Hillsboro [02:27] yeah that's definitely outside the general scope of eugene XD [02:28] that where yo are? [02:28] yep [02:28] s/yo/you/ [02:29] gotcha, so we are all over the place lol [02:29] indeed we are but mostly in the valley [02:30] i think that's one of our larger challenges is that we're a big state [02:30] i should say that's my challenge XD [02:31] I'm over in tillamook :P [02:31] trying to herd cats in a big pastureland XD [02:31] lol [02:31] oh yeah i noticed your name in the roster, WalterN. being another walter and all! [02:31] ooh Tillamook, nice :) [02:31] roster? where? [02:31] oh [02:31] well i think i did [02:31] i noticed another walter [02:31] yeah, I love exploring Oregon, so beautiful! [02:31] sgclark: I dont [02:32] me too!!!!! [02:32] you DON'T love oregon, WalterN ? :) [02:32] everything I want is in my room, why would I want to leave everything I want? [02:32] hahahahah [02:32] lol [02:32] well [02:32] there is that [02:33] * ObrienDave waves from Grants Pass [02:33] anyway, we can make this an advantage, more area to cover in regards to gathering momentum [02:33] hi ObrienDave ! [02:33] indeed [02:33] * sgclark wave [02:33] one thing that can help our loco get verified is turning folks into ubuntu members [02:33] tgm4883, me and a couple others started Ubuntu-Oregon as a group... kinda had the same problem back then.. lots of people but all over the state [02:34] basically started anyway [02:34] one thing that might be nice is a general talk about how to contribute and/or how to become a member [02:34] WalterN: so this all started with you, eh? [02:34] heh no [02:35] "basically" :P for oregons team I was around early on... before the oregon team there was the PDX team that was inactive [02:35] yeah, I am a member, so I can sorta help- with that [02:35] sgclark: ditto [02:36] it was kinda my fault activity died down for a while for the oregon team too... meh [02:36] what [02:36] oops [02:36] whta i'd like to do is get some key folks in the various major areas [02:36] I'm here, but I'm working on my NAS so ping me if you need something [02:36] I put the blame squarely on WalterN ;P [02:36] portland, salem, eugene, southern oregon [02:37] yeah it needs to be a team effort [02:37] tgm4883: lol [02:37] tgm4883: at least you are still around :P [02:37] eh, I haven't been to a meeting in awhile [02:37] and those people ideally would be bold enough to reach out to people in their general area [02:38] and then we could all support one another and keep each other updated on what's going on [02:38] tgm4883: then we are even... neither have I :P [02:38] i have a feeling that might take some work/networking but i think we can get there [02:38] it's only too bad you're shy sgclark :) [02:39] tgm4883: the difference now is I own a machine shop [02:39] lol I survived akademy and actually did a release interview today, I am getting better lol [02:39] and I'm extremely busy with that [02:39] ooooh that's cool WalterN [02:39] * wxl works for a bike manufacturer [02:39] but taking on all of Portland may be too much lol [02:40] sgclark: well, yeah, but i wouldn't set the goals as lofty as that. start with plug. [02:40] wxl: I make lots of copper parts :P [02:40] wxl: challenge accepted [02:40] WalterN: copper? for which exactly? [02:40] sgclark: yay :) [02:40] * ObrienDave does MasterCam and SolidWorks [02:41] very cool ObrienDave! [02:41] wxl: high current electrical connectors for a certain class of oil rigs [02:41] WalterN: is this all local? [02:41] oh oh, I so need a bike [02:41] sgclark: http://bikefriday.com [02:41] if you see anything you like i'll get you a good ideal [02:41] uh [02:41] deal [02:41] :) thanks! [02:42] wxl: no, the parts get plated in portand then they come back and assembled, shipped to some other state, then sold to places all over the world [02:42] i'm as much a bike advocate as a FOSS advocate, so if you want to get a bike, i'll make it happen :) [02:42] WalterN: well that's a nice thing for your business! [02:42] Bikers, pfft. Unicycles for lyfe! [02:42] sgclark: most of what we make is folding bikes btu the non-folders are a bit less expensive— and they're adjustable to fit everyone [02:42] s/bike/cycling/ [02:43] tgm4883: i don't discriminate against number of wheels :) [02:43] wxl: I want a bike with an internal gear changer that changes from low gear to high gear at about 12mph [02:43] sgclark: and we have this new cargo bike called the Haul-a-Day which is super rad [02:43] cool, I am a girl and these look painful haha, but I am sure you can accomodate :) [02:43] WalterN: you only want two gears? :) [02:44] thats typically all I use when I have more [02:44] sgclark: we accomodate anyone, seriously. most of our customers are in their retirement years. everything's custom [02:44] maybe three gears [02:44] WalterN: you might look into a nuvinci 360 [02:44] it's a cvt [02:45] CVTs are nice :3 [02:45] linky? [02:45] supposedly they have an automatic shifting option [02:45] trying to find that [02:45] 1s [02:45] nice :) wxl: I will look it all over and ping you when I find what I can convince my husband to get me (open source does not pay me :)) [02:45] http://www.fallbrooktech.com/cycling/harmony [02:45] sgclark: as i said, being an employee there, i can get you a stupid crazy good deal. [02:45] cool :) [02:47] sgclark: i can also source used parts if you want to make it super cheap :) [02:47] woohoo! [02:47] like i said, i'm a cycling advocate [02:47] heh [02:47] if you want a bike, i'll figure out how to get you one XD [02:47] love it [02:47] biking here on the coast sucks most of the time :P [02:47] please tell me that's sarcasm, WalterN :) [02:48] not really [02:48] like right now [02:48] its raining and blowing [02:48] oh man [02:48] have not had a bike working since I moved here and it shows :( [02:48] i'm from cleveland [02:48] it's not snow [02:48] therefore it's fine [02:48] :) [02:48] I lived in montana, and thats fine too [02:48] but meh... [02:48] sgclark: yeah the best way to do it is to integrate it into your daily life. that's why the cargo bike is so cool. it's like a cycle truck! [02:49] I have lived... umm many places lol, Arizona the longest [02:49] WalterN: admittedly it does require gear that isn't necessary when it's nice out [02:49] yep, In AZ I rode my bike everywhere. including work [02:49] i used to be a messenger in cleveland [02:49] nice! [02:50] now i'm old and fat [02:50] i still ride every day XD [02:50] I am old and getting umm fluffy [02:50] brb [02:51] fluffy... ha [02:51] :) [02:51] https://derpibooru.org/420323 [02:51] lol [02:55] ha... butt science! http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-butt-robots-2014-10 [02:56] LOL [02:56] nice [03:16] oh there we go [03:17] i was starving [03:17] hehe [03:17] omg [03:17] this butt thing is ummmm weird [03:17] lol [03:18] heh [03:18] http://sixgun.org/files/utopic-unicorn.jpg [03:19] oh that picture [03:19] heh [03:19] i mentioned it on #ubuntu-release and kinda took everyone by surprise [03:19] i guess not everyone has a sense of humor :) [03:20] meh [03:20] ok so I have started my infiltration of PLUG, but I must call it a night :( I have literally been up since 2AM, I look forward to (x)ubuntu takihng over Oregon and am here for it all, ping me if anyone wants to chat about ideas etc! [03:20] thats too bad for everyone then [03:20] thx a ton sgclark [03:20] oh my [03:20] and great meeting you officially [03:20] (PS, I dont actually use Ubuntu anymore) :-x [03:21] EGADS [03:21] yeah, it is too bad we missed each other at OSCON :( [03:21] i know :( [03:21] well i've already got the time off work for next year :) [03:21] and with linuxfestnw… [03:21] I recently switched all my computers over to debian testing [03:22] well isn't that ironic [03:22] it's the pre-dev version of ubuntu release+1 :) [03:22] yeah [03:23] to be fair i don't use ubuntu either [03:23] its just easier for my headless server [03:23] i use ubuntu server on mine [03:23] well WalterN: we moved all of our Frameworks/Plasma5 to debian git :) so we are working close with debian, but still very much ubuntu at the ssaem time [03:24] sgclark: we? [03:24] Kubuntu [03:24] well as far as i understand it ubutnu relies on debian and contributes back to further improve it [03:24] * sgclark is kubuntu dev [03:24] i need to learn packaging [03:25] yep, now that release has happened, I get to merge everything with debian! [03:25] yay :) [03:25] I can help you wxl [03:26] sgclark: what would you suggest as the best way to learn? [03:27] meh [03:27] wxl: wanna help me deburr and package these parts I'm making right now? [03:27] wxl: I have to be honest, the mastermind behin Kubuntu was nice to show me and then reviewed all my attepts till I got it right [03:28] WalterN: wrong kind of packaging but my deburring tool is in the garage :) [03:28] I have plenty of extra [03:29] wxl: pbuilder is a good start, also you will need chroots if you work with different builds like I do. I suggest schroot. [03:30] i've heard of that (schroot) [03:31] wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot was a good staring point for me [03:32] bleh yeah I would like to blame my keyboard, but I am getting snoozy. Ping me any time for questions wxl :) I must sleep, go through that tutorial though wxl :) [03:32] kthx sgclark [03:32] night! [03:33] np :) night all [16:01] * wxlS5 waves [16:04] * WalterN flails then heads off to work [16:05] * sgclark waves [16:12] I'm bored in the doctor's office so naturally I turn to IRC ;-) [21:49] wxl: alas it looks like a domain squatter has registered ubuntu-oregon.org can you ping the people at IS and cc: legal@canonical.com and see if they can send a letter about transferring ownership to Canonical [21:49] Pretty sure Canonical has used trademark to muscle domains for LoCo's in the past