[01:18]  * wxl waves
[01:21] <sgclark> hiyas
[01:24] <wxl> almost meeting time yay :)
[01:24] <sgclark> :)
[01:24] <QIII> giddy with anticipation
[01:25] <wxl> hahahah
[01:25] <wxl> already installed utopic?
[01:25] <QIII> as soon as it was in dev
[01:25] <sgclark> kubuntu dev, had it for awhile :)
[01:25] <wxl> sgclark: non-finals don't count :)
[01:26] <wxl> sgclark: you running plasma 5?
[01:26] <QIII> it's final now ...
[01:26] <sgclark> lol it it final now :) yeah plasma 5 here
[01:26] <wxl> yeah well given all the last minute world respins final wasn't final until nearly the last minute :/
[01:26] <sgclark> yeah :(
[01:27] <wxl> i haven't tried plasma 5 yet. is it stable enough that i won't have to be messing with it if i use it on my work machine?
[01:27] <sgclark> it is in heavy production still, so nah I can't suggest it on a production machine
[01:27]  * wxl nods
[01:27] <wxl> well i look forward to it
[01:28] <wxl> despite spending most of my time with lubuntu contribution wise, we use kubuntu at work
[01:28] <sgclark> err heavy development lol
[01:29] <wxl> i understood :)
[01:30] <wxl> ok well
[01:31] <wxl> #startmeeting New Team Leader
[01:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Oct 24 01:31:20 2014 UTC.  The chair is wxl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[01:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[01:32] <wxl> well, just trying to introduce myself and answer any questions.
[01:32] <wxl> long story short, ubuntu oregon needed someone and someone mentioned it to me and i said i'd help. here i am :)
[01:32] <sgclark> yay :)
[01:32] <wxl> i'm release manager and head of qa for lubuntu. i also help with support, docs, bugs, etc.
[01:32] <wxl> that's more or less the ubuntu connection :)
[01:32] <wxl> been in oregon for a few decades or so, having moved from ohio
[01:33] <wxl> where we have like no trees and snow. so i'm here to stay XD
[01:34] <wxl> and that's that.
[01:34] <bkerensa> hello
[01:34] <wxl> hi bkerensa
[01:34] <wxl> #topic Meeting Time
[01:34]  * wxl kicks meetingology
[01:34] <bkerensa> ;)
[01:34] <wxl> #progress Meeting Time
[01:34] <bkerensa> :s
[01:34] <wxl> nothing there either hm
[01:34] <bkerensa> !topic Meeting Time
[01:34] <bkerensa> oh pfft
[01:34] <wxl> wrong bot :)
[01:34] <bkerensa> #topic Meeting Time
[01:34] <wxl> oh well, so we're moving on to Meeting Time
[01:35] <wxl> 630 thursday ok for everyone?
[01:35] <wxl> later, sooner, different day preferred?
[01:35] <QIII> Fine here.
[01:35] <sgclark> good here
[01:35] <bkerensa> #topic Meeting Time
[01:35] <bkerensa> oh well worth a try
[01:35] <wxl> bkerensa: don't hurt yourself over there :)
[01:35] <bkerensa> you could do it without the bot?
[01:35] <wxl> bkerensa: will you be able to join us at this time, too?
[01:36] <bkerensa> it depends on the day :) my schedule is dynamic in nature
[01:36]  * bkerensa will try and be here next thursday
[01:36] <bkerensa> any plans for a topic party?
[01:37] <wxl> topic party or party topic? :)
[01:38] <QIII> party party
[01:39] <wxl> we can move on to that next
[01:39] <wxl> #topic Release Party
[01:39] <wxl> anyone got any plans?
[01:41] <sgclark> newish to Oregon.. don't know anyone to "party" with lol. Just been IRC partying
[01:43] <wxl> well ok
[01:43] <bkerensa> Right so usually in the past I would organize one... fund a venue and some sponsors for food and other things
[01:44] <wxl> if you have any folks interested in linux or ubuntu, you could make a little impromtu party sgclark. evagelize!
[01:44] <bkerensa> since I do not have the time for that anymore the best I can offer is that if anyone wants to handle the organizing and finding sponsors... I can ask Mozilla or Freegeek to host us
[01:44] <wxl> bkerensa: was this something you had ubuntu covering or you id on your own?
[01:44] <bkerensa> mostly sponsors but some was out of pocket
[01:44] <bkerensa> Ubuntu did not have community funding at the time
[01:45] <bkerensa> still yet I hear the process takes many weeks
[01:45] <sgclark> it does, but possible
[01:45] <wxl> yiiiikes
[01:45] <wxl> well i can at least look into it
[01:45] <wxl> i don't have much in the way to offer out of pocket wise :(
[01:46] <wxl> maybe we could put a fund together. i can certainly help
[01:46] <wxl> #action wxl will look into ubuntu funding for release party
[01:46] <meetingology> ACTION: wxl will look into ubuntu funding for release party
[01:46] <wxl> huh you'll listen to that?
[01:46] <wxl> weird bot
[01:47] <wxl> ok well i have one other thing to discuss
[01:47] <wxl> then we'll move on to any other ideas anyone has
[01:47] <wxl> and then we can just ramble XD
[01:47] <wxl> #topic Approval
[01:48] <wxl> #meetingtopic Approval
[01:48] <wxl> oh well
[01:48] <wxl> anyways i'm surprised to find our loco isn't officially approved
[01:48] <wxl> it does have some benefits
[01:48] <wxl> basically all we have to do is keep on doing our thing
[01:48] <shirgall> The /topic says there's no IRC meeting. It's lying.
[01:48] <wxl> if we can get this done, ubuntu will cover hosting which wouldbe nice
[01:49] <wxl> shirgall: yeah i thought meetingology was supposed to take care of that but it's being a poopy bot.
[01:49] <sgclark> lol
[01:49] <shirgall> meetingology: are you alive?
[01:49] <meetingology> shirgall: Error: "are" is not a valid command.
[01:49] <wxl> so first here's some info on the team verification/approval guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines
[01:51] <wxl> so the one thing we need to do if you read the criteria is really is to do some stuff
[01:51] <wxl> i think the salem ubuntu hour is a big help in that regard
[01:51]  * sgclark is willing to donate time for this
[01:51] <wxl> a release party would help
[01:52] <sgclark> I have no friends to throw parties heh, but I can help with alot of that other stuff
[01:52] <wxl> if anyone anywhere on the team can do something that either promotes ubuntu or helps contribute to ubuntu (bug jam for example), that would make a difference
[01:52] <wxl> sgclark: well you could check out the local lug or even something like the library
[01:52] <wxl> i had a thought about doing a talk at my daughter's school :)
[01:52] <sgclark> did I mention I was shy? :)
[01:52] <wxl> well that doesn't help XD
[01:53] <sgclark> lol
[01:53] <wxl> we can figure that out, though
[01:53] <wxl> the reason i bring up this topic is so that we can keep our collective eyes open for opportunities
[01:53] <sgclark> I am heavily involved in Kubuntu development though
[01:53] <wxl> so you could wrangle some of the local kubuntu folks maybe
[01:53] <sgclark> so my name is scattered about ubuntu
[01:54] <wxl> obviously these are physical events local to oregon
[01:54] <sgclark> well I work with a bunch of folks across the pond, I really don't know anyone here sorry :(
[01:54] <wxl> right well there ya go XD
[01:55] <wxl> i think once we get into a "groove" of doing things, it'll come naturally
[01:55] <wxl> i don't think this should necessarily be difficult
[01:56] <wxl> well, that's all i got
[01:56] <wxl> any other topics, interesting events, etc?
[01:56] <wxl> btw if you didn't noticed, i posted on a talk mozilla lars is having in eug next month
[01:56] <wxl> seems like i twill be interesting
[01:56] <sgclark> Well, LinuxFestNW might be a venue to go to to get ourselves to meet and find others, but it isnt until April I think, but an idea
[01:56] <wxl> yes and a great idea
[01:56] <wxl> i have any plan of making that happen
[01:56] <wxl> i met one of the guys at oscon and have his card stashed somewhere
[01:57] <sgclark> same
[01:57] <wxl> i should get on that
[01:57] <sgclark> :)
[01:57] <wxl> #agenda wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW!
[01:57] <wxl> oh wrong command
[01:57] <wxl> #action wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW!
[01:57] <meetingology> ACTION: wxl will get us into LinuxFestNW!
[01:58] <bkerensa> wxl will grab Ubuntu banner and cloth from me too!
[01:58] <bkerensa> :)
[01:58] <wxl> ooh
[01:58] <wxl> #action wxl will coerce bkerensa to give up the Ubuntu banner and cloth
[01:58] <meetingology> ACTION: wxl will coerce bkerensa to give up the Ubuntu banner and cloth
[01:59] <sgclark> lol
[01:59] <sgclark> I know KDE and Kubuntu will want presence there, so I will conjure up some garb from them too
[01:59] <wxl> excellent
[02:00] <wxl> the guy said something about not having a lot of space he might have us share a booth with some other lug/loco
[02:01] <wxl> now we just need stickers
[02:01] <wxl> we could do a ubuntu logo inside the green heart on the white oregon state sticker :)
[02:02] <sgclark> sounds good to me
[02:03] <sgclark> do we have all that other stuff, wiki, launchpad forum?
[02:03] <wxl> yeah
[02:03] <wxl> just no website currently
[02:03] <wxl> the forums are kind of dead
[02:03] <wxl> which is fine by me, i hate forums XD
[02:03] <QIII> me too
[02:03] <sgclark> On the global activities.. we all have to attend these together?
[02:04] <wxl> sgclark: no, not at all. it's a team effort
[02:04] <sgclark> ok
[02:04] <wxl> think of it like you do development
[02:04] <wxl> your whole team doesn't work on every bug
[02:04] <sgclark> gotcha
[02:04] <sgclark> right
[02:04] <wxl> nor does every member work every cycle
[02:05] <sgclark> wonder if my akademy trip counts. ubuntu paid for it
[02:05] <wxl> we also might want to just do something like this, spreading the word of ubuntu http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/09/16/ubuntu-in-oregon
[02:05] <wxl> wuzzat?
[02:05] <sgclark> I will also write a blog post
[02:06] <wxl> akademy is in eu right??
[02:06] <sgclark> akademy is KDE's developer convetion, hackfest, bug jam all in one
[02:06] <sgclark> yeah
[02:06] <wxl> yeah probably not the same. everything's under the banner of work in oregon
[02:06] <wxl> that's my understanding of it at least
[02:06] <sgclark> ok
[02:06] <sgclark> there were ubuntu folks there :)
[02:07] <sgclark> but ok
[02:07] <wxl> i'm sure there were :)
[02:07] <wxl> heck, i would have gone and i'm really a lubuntu guy :)
[02:07] <sgclark> hehe, it was a great experience
[02:08] <wxl> actually come to think of it, putting brochures like in that aforementioned link, in public places around the state is a great idea
[02:08] <wxl> you still have a copy of that brochure bkerensa ?
[02:09] <sgclark> A good start is the LFNW and release parties.
[02:10] <wxl> i think i might make these meetings 30 mins long inn the fuure
[02:10] <wxl> until we have lots to talk about :)
[02:11] <wxl> #action wxl will harass bkerensa for copies of his old brochure!
[02:11] <meetingology> ACTION: wxl will harass bkerensa for copies of his old brochure!
[02:11] <wxl> #action wxl will trim down future meetings to 30 minute length
[02:11] <meetingology> ACTION: wxl will trim down future meetings to 30 minute length
[02:12] <wxl> i'm going to end the meeting early "officially"
[02:12] <wxl> #endmeeting
[02:12] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Oct 24 02:12:55 2014 UTC.
[02:12] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-or/2014/ubuntu-us-or.2014-10-24-01.31.moin.txt
[02:13] <wxl> interesting
[02:13] <wxl> it actually picked up on the change in topics
[02:13] <wxl> weird
[02:13] <wxl> any who
[02:14] <wxl> let's talk kubuntu sgclark
[02:14] <wxl> you planning on rolling plasma5 into 15.04?
[02:14] <sgclark> That is the plan!
[02:14] <QIII> yay
[02:14] <sgclark> we'll see how stable it is though
[02:14] <wxl> lots more work to do?
[02:14] <sgclark> yeah
[02:14] <wxl> lubuntu is planning on starting the transition to qt from gtk this cycle
[02:15] <wxl> we have lots of work to do
[02:15] <wxl> bickering about default apps
[02:15] <wxl> for example
[02:15] <wxl> not to mention the actual WORK :)
[02:15] <sgclark> keeping me very busy :) but it is actually stable as far as performance, just alot of missing functionality
[02:15] <wxl> i think there's a hope that we can do it in 1504 but i'm nto sure
[02:16] <wxl> yeah well whern it comes to kubuntu functionality is everything XD
[02:16] <bkerensa> wxl: brochure? They are on the team launchpad in the team papa
[02:16] <bkerensa> :)
[02:16] <bkerensa> ppa*
[02:16] <wxl> bkerensa: oh didn't even notice the ppa. cool thx!
[02:16] <sgclark> ohh we have a team on launchpad? can I be added please!
[02:16] <wxl> oh sure
[02:17] <sgclark> I have web experience.. I can help with site, but atm it seems our domain name is for sale? :)
[02:17] <wxl> done sgclark :)
[02:17] <sgclark> great thanks
[02:17] <wxl> derp i see no ppa bkerensa
[02:17] <wxl> you sure that's not YOUR ppa? XD
[02:18] <bkerensa> ah looks like it is not in a ppa
[02:18] <bkerensa> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-or/+junk/promotional-materials
[02:18] <bkerensa> there it is
[02:18] <wxl> oic
[02:18] <wxl> thx bkerensa
[02:24]  * QIII wanders off to take the case off this stupid laptop and poke around a bit inside it again.  Later.
[02:24] <wxl> good luck
[02:24] <sgclark> is Salem the only "ubuntu" meeting we have? I have troubles making that distance
[02:25] <wxl> yeah me too
[02:25] <wxl> currently it is
[02:25] <wxl> that i know of!
[02:25] <wxl> i'm surprised there's nothing doing in pdx
[02:25] <sgclark> I know there is a "PLUG" in Portland, perhaps we could recruit lol
[02:26] <wxl> i've become one of the organizers for our lug so i hoping to suggest a ubuntu-specific meeting with them
[02:26] <sgclark> yeah me too
[02:26] <wxl> and that was my idea there too
[02:26] <WalterN> talking
[02:26] <wxl> going through the lug it would be easy to swap members :)
[02:26] <sgclark> oh? I need to sort out dates to go
[02:26] <sgclark> I work with Euros so I get up at like 2 AM lol
[02:27] <wxl> yeah you should go down and infiltrate :)
[02:27] <sgclark> but pre planned I could make pdx
[02:27] <wxl> where are you again?
[02:27] <sgclark> Hillsboro
[02:27] <wxl> yeah that's definitely outside the general scope of eugene XD
[02:28] <sgclark> that where yo are?
[02:28] <wxl> yep
[02:28] <sgclark> s/yo/you/
[02:29] <sgclark> gotcha, so we are all over the place lol
[02:29] <wxl> indeed we are but mostly in the valley
[02:30] <wxl> i think that's one of our larger challenges is that we're a big state
[02:30] <wxl> i should say that's my challenge XD
[02:31] <WalterN> I'm over in tillamook :P
[02:31] <wxl> trying to herd cats in a big pastureland XD
[02:31] <sgclark> lol
[02:31] <wxl> oh yeah i noticed your name in the roster, WalterN. being another walter and all!
[02:31] <sgclark> ooh Tillamook, nice :)
[02:31] <WalterN> roster? where?
[02:31] <wxl> oh
[02:31] <wxl> well i think i did
[02:31] <wxl> i noticed another walter
[02:31] <sgclark> yeah, I love exploring Oregon, so beautiful!
[02:31] <WalterN> sgclark: I dont
[02:32] <wxl> me too!!!!!
[02:32] <wxl> you DON'T love oregon, WalterN ? :)
[02:32] <WalterN> everything I want is in my room, why would I want to leave everything I want?
[02:32] <wxl> hahahahah
[02:32] <sgclark> lol
[02:32] <sgclark> well
[02:32] <sgclark> there is that
[02:33]  * ObrienDave waves from Grants Pass
[02:33] <sgclark> anyway, we can make this an advantage, more area to cover in regards to gathering momentum
[02:33] <wxl> hi ObrienDave !
[02:33] <wxl> indeed
[02:33]  * sgclark wave
[02:33] <wxl> one thing that can help our loco get verified is turning folks into ubuntu members
[02:33] <WalterN> tgm4883, me and a couple others started Ubuntu-Oregon as a group... kinda had the same problem back then.. lots of people but all over the state
[02:34] <WalterN> basically started anyway
[02:34] <wxl> one thing that might be nice is a general talk about how to contribute and/or how to become a member
[02:34] <wxl> WalterN: so this all started with you, eh?
[02:34] <WalterN> heh no
[02:35] <WalterN> "basically" :P for oregons team I was around early on... before the oregon team there was the PDX team that was inactive
[02:35] <sgclark> yeah, I am a member, so I can sorta help- with that
[02:35] <wxl> sgclark: ditto
[02:36] <WalterN> it was kinda my fault activity died down for a while for the oregon team too... meh
[02:36] <wxl> what
[02:36] <wxl> oops
[02:36] <wxl> whta i'd like to do is get some key folks in the various major areas
[02:36] <tgm4883> I'm here, but I'm working on my NAS so ping me if you need something
[02:36] <tgm4883> I put the blame squarely on WalterN ;P
[02:36] <wxl> portland, salem, eugene, southern oregon
[02:37] <sgclark> yeah it needs to be a team effort
[02:37] <WalterN> tgm4883: lol
[02:37] <WalterN> tgm4883: at least you are still around :P
[02:37] <tgm4883> eh, I haven't been to a meeting in awhile
[02:37] <wxl> and those people ideally would be bold enough to reach out to people in their general area
[02:38] <wxl> and then we could all support one another and keep each other updated on what's going on
[02:38] <WalterN> tgm4883: then we are even... neither have I :P
[02:38] <wxl> i have a feeling that might take some work/networking but i think we can get there
[02:38] <wxl> it's only too bad you're shy sgclark :)
[02:39] <WalterN> tgm4883: the difference now is I own a machine shop
[02:39] <sgclark> lol I survived akademy and actually did a release interview today, I am getting better lol
[02:39] <WalterN> and I'm extremely busy with that
[02:39] <wxl> ooooh that's cool WalterN
[02:39]  * wxl works for a bike manufacturer
[02:39] <sgclark> but taking on all of Portland may be too much lol
[02:40] <wxl> sgclark: well, yeah, but i wouldn't set the goals as lofty as that. start with plug.
[02:40] <WalterN> wxl: I make lots of copper parts :P
[02:40] <sgclark> wxl: challenge accepted
[02:40] <wxl> WalterN: copper? for which exactly?
[02:40] <wxl> sgclark: yay :)
[02:40]  * ObrienDave does MasterCam and SolidWorks
[02:41] <wxl> very cool ObrienDave!
[02:41] <WalterN> wxl: high current electrical connectors for a certain class of oil rigs
[02:41] <wxl> WalterN: is this all local?
[02:41] <sgclark> oh oh, I so need a bike
[02:41] <wxl> sgclark: http://bikefriday.com
[02:41] <wxl> if you see anything you like i'll get you a good ideal
[02:41] <wxl> uh
[02:41] <wxl> deal
[02:41] <sgclark> :) thanks!
[02:42] <WalterN> wxl: no, the parts get plated in portand then they come back and assembled, shipped to some other state, then sold to places all over the world
[02:42] <wxl> i'm as much a bike advocate as a FOSS advocate, so if you want to get a bike, i'll make it happen :)
[02:42] <wxl> WalterN: well that's a nice thing for your business!
[02:42] <tgm4883> Bikers, pfft. Unicycles for lyfe!
[02:42] <wxl> sgclark: most of what we make is folding bikes btu the non-folders are a bit less expensive— and they're adjustable to fit everyone
[02:42] <wxl> s/bike/cycling/
[02:43] <wxl> tgm4883: i don't discriminate against number of wheels :)
[02:43] <WalterN> wxl: I want a bike with an internal gear changer that changes from low gear to high gear at about 12mph
[02:43] <wxl> sgclark: and we have this new cargo bike called the Haul-a-Day which is super rad
[02:43] <sgclark> cool, I am a girl and these look painful haha, but I am sure you can accomodate :)
[02:43] <wxl> WalterN: you only want two gears? :)
[02:44] <WalterN> thats typically all I use when I have more
[02:44] <wxl> sgclark: we accomodate anyone, seriously. most of our customers are in their retirement years. everything's custom
[02:44] <WalterN> maybe three gears
[02:44] <wxl> WalterN: you might look into a nuvinci 360
[02:44] <wxl> it's a cvt
[02:45] <WalterN> CVTs are nice :3
[02:45] <WalterN> linky?
[02:45] <wxl> supposedly they have an automatic shifting option
[02:45] <wxl> trying to find that
[02:45] <wxl> 1s
[02:45] <sgclark> nice :) wxl: I will look it all over and ping you when I find what I can convince my husband to get me (open source does not pay me :))
[02:45] <wxl> http://www.fallbrooktech.com/cycling/harmony
[02:45] <wxl> sgclark: as i said, being an employee there, i can get you a stupid crazy good deal.
[02:45] <sgclark> cool :)
[02:47] <wxl> sgclark: i can also source used parts if you want to make it super cheap :)
[02:47] <sgclark> woohoo!
[02:47] <wxl> like i said, i'm a cycling advocate
[02:47] <WalterN> heh
[02:47] <wxl> if you want a bike, i'll figure out how to get you one XD
[02:47] <sgclark> love it
[02:47] <WalterN> biking here on the coast sucks most of the time :P
[02:47] <wxl> please tell me that's sarcasm, WalterN :)
[02:48] <WalterN> not really
[02:48] <WalterN> like right now
[02:48] <WalterN> its raining and blowing
[02:48] <wxl> oh man
[02:48] <sgclark> have not had a bike working since I moved here and it shows :(
[02:48] <wxl> i'm from cleveland
[02:48] <wxl> it's not snow
[02:48] <wxl> therefore it's fine
[02:48] <wxl> :)
[02:48] <WalterN> I lived in montana, and thats fine too
[02:48] <WalterN> but meh...
[02:48] <wxl> sgclark: yeah the best way to do it is to integrate it into your daily life. that's why the cargo bike is so cool. it's like a cycle truck!
[02:49] <sgclark> I have lived... umm many places lol, Arizona the longest
[02:49] <wxl> WalterN: admittedly it does require gear that isn't necessary when it's nice out
[02:49] <sgclark> yep, In AZ I rode my bike everywhere. including work
[02:49] <wxl> i used to be a messenger in cleveland
[02:49] <sgclark> nice!
[02:50] <wxl> now i'm old and fat
[02:50] <wxl> i still ride every day XD
[02:50] <sgclark> I am old and getting umm fluffy
[02:50] <wxl> brb
[02:51] <WalterN> fluffy... ha
[02:51] <sgclark> :)
[02:51] <WalterN> https://derpibooru.org/420323
[02:51] <sgclark> lol
[02:55] <WalterN> ha... butt science! http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-butt-robots-2014-10
[02:56] <sgclark> LOL
[02:56] <sgclark> nice
[03:16] <wxl> oh there we go
[03:17] <wxl> i was starving
[03:17] <sgclark> hehe
[03:17] <wxl> omg
[03:17] <wxl> this butt thing is ummmm weird
[03:17] <sgclark> lol
[03:18] <WalterN> heh
[03:18] <wxl> http://sixgun.org/files/utopic-unicorn.jpg
[03:19] <WalterN> oh that picture
[03:19] <WalterN> heh
[03:19] <wxl> i mentioned it on #ubuntu-release and kinda took everyone by surprise
[03:19] <wxl> i guess not everyone has a sense of humor :)
[03:20] <WalterN> meh
[03:20] <sgclark> ok so I have started my infiltration of PLUG, but I must call it a night :( I have literally been up since 2AM, I look forward to (x)ubuntu  takihng over Oregon and am here for it all, ping me if anyone wants to chat about ideas etc!
[03:20] <WalterN> thats too bad for everyone then
[03:20] <wxl> thx a ton sgclark
[03:20] <sgclark> oh my
[03:20] <wxl> and great meeting you officially
[03:20] <WalterN> (PS, I dont actually use Ubuntu anymore) :-x
[03:21] <wxl> EGADS
[03:21] <sgclark> yeah, it is too bad we missed each other at OSCON :(
[03:21] <wxl> i know :(
[03:21] <wxl> well i've already got the time off work for next year :)
[03:21] <wxl> and with linuxfestnw…
[03:21] <WalterN> I recently switched all my computers over to debian testing
[03:22] <wxl> well isn't that ironic
[03:22] <wxl> it's the pre-dev version of ubuntu release+1 :)
[03:22] <WalterN> yeah
[03:23] <wxl> to be fair i don't use ubuntu either
[03:23] <WalterN> its just easier for my headless server
[03:23] <wxl> i use ubuntu server on mine
[03:23] <sgclark> well WalterN: we moved all of our Frameworks/Plasma5 to debian git :) so we are working close with debian, but still very much ubuntu at the ssaem time
[03:24] <WalterN> sgclark: we?
[03:24] <sgclark> Kubuntu
[03:24] <wxl> well as far as i understand it ubutnu relies on debian and contributes back to further improve it
[03:24]  * sgclark is kubuntu dev
[03:24] <wxl> i need to learn packaging
[03:25] <sgclark> yep, now that release has happened, I get to merge everything with debian!
[03:25] <wxl> yay :)
[03:25] <sgclark> I can help you wxl
[03:26] <wxl> sgclark: what would you suggest as the best way to learn?
[03:27] <WalterN> meh
[03:27] <WalterN> wxl: wanna help me deburr and package these parts I'm making right now?
[03:27] <sgclark> wxl: I have to be honest, the mastermind behin Kubuntu was nice to show me and then reviewed all my attepts till I got it right
[03:28] <wxl> WalterN: wrong kind of packaging but my deburring tool is in the garage :)
[03:28] <WalterN> I have plenty of extra
[03:29] <sgclark> wxl: pbuilder is a good start, also you will need chroots if you work with different builds like I do. I suggest schroot.
[03:30] <wxl> i've heard of that (schroot)
[03:31] <sgclark> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot was a good staring point for me
[03:32] <sgclark> bleh yeah I would like to blame my keyboard, but I am getting snoozy. Ping me any time for questions wxl :) I must sleep, go through that tutorial though wxl :)
[03:32] <wxl> kthx sgclark
[03:32] <wxl> night!
[03:33] <sgclark> np :) night all
[16:01]  * wxlS5 waves
[16:04]  * WalterN flails then heads off to work
[16:05]  * sgclark waves
[16:12] <wxlS5> I'm bored in the doctor's office so naturally I turn to IRC ;-)
[21:49] <bkerensa> wxl: alas it looks like a domain squatter has registered ubuntu-oregon.org can you ping the people at IS and cc: legal@canonical.com and see if they can send a letter about transferring ownership to Canonical
[21:49] <bkerensa> Pretty sure Canonical has used trademark to muscle domains for LoCo's in the past