/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/24/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

wrsthello ifsp13:34
ifspGood morning wrst ^^13:35
wrsthow are you ?13:35
ifspGreat, it's Friday. :D13:35
ifspYou?13:35
wrstsame here :)13:36
ifspwrst: What do you think about all this systemd uproar?13:45
wrstifsp: a lot of useless open source drama :)14:12
wrstwhat about you?14:12
wrstI'm a fan of systemd however14:12
wrstI use arch on the desktop and have been using it for a pretty good while now so the debate really seems majorly silly to me especially seeing what I think are a lot of the benefits14:13
* wrst hopes he didn't just start a flame war...14:13
ifspI like systemd, certainly more than upstart. The drama isn't totally baseless but the detractors aren't offering any solutions.14:15
wrstyeah I can't say I understand drama period14:58
wrstbut I must say I like how it works as a dumb user14:58
wrstI hear unit files and all of that are supposed to be better too but I have no clue on any of that14:59
ifspwrst: So arch still treating you well? I have it on my laptop and I'm strongly tempted to replace Ubuntu on my desktop after many years. It's the stability of LTS stopping me--I'd hate to lose my development environment to a sour -Syu and you hear those stories persistently, even though I'm sure the risk is *actually* minimal.15:11
wrstifsp: my thing is watch the updates, check the website, if you need your computer to work wait to update15:11
ifspHow often do you catch breaking changes?15:12
wrstlast major thing that I was realy worried about was changing /bin or whatever that was15:13
wrstbut had a step by step how to do it15:13
wrstand systemd was another one of those instances but just random breakage I've never had it15:15
wrstifsp: I keep things pretty vanilla, no custom kernels, minimal aur packages etc so my system always seems to work well15:19
wrstno proprietary drivers either for video since it is intel15:20
ifspThat's nice. I'm tempted to go back to intel on my next build for that reason.15:24
ifspPlenty of weird issues with my nvidia card, to wit rooted in developers trying to guess at driver APIs.15:26
ifspOr applying the LCD principle.15:26
ifspI love the AUR though and the limited obsfucation in system properties; not to mention the impressive wiki.15:28
ifspI feel like I'm talking myself in to it. :D Could be a fun Friday project and I can always dual boot until I man up.15:31
wrstha ha ifsp16:09
wrsthello hashbrowns_16:09

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