[13:34] <wrst> hello ifsp
[13:35] <ifsp> Good morning wrst ^^
[13:35] <wrst> how are you ?
[13:35] <ifsp> Great, it's Friday. :D
[13:35] <ifsp> You?
[13:36] <wrst> same here :)
[13:45] <ifsp> wrst: What do you think about all this systemd uproar?
[14:12] <wrst> ifsp: a lot of useless open source drama :)
[14:12] <wrst> what about you?
[14:12] <wrst> I'm a fan of systemd however
[14:13] <wrst> I use arch on the desktop and have been using it for a pretty good while now so the debate really seems majorly silly to me especially seeing what I think are a lot of the benefits
[14:13]  * wrst hopes he didn't just start a flame war...
[14:15] <ifsp> I like systemd, certainly more than upstart. The drama isn't totally baseless but the detractors aren't offering any solutions.
[14:58] <wrst> yeah I can't say I understand drama period
[14:58] <wrst> but I must say I like how it works as a dumb user
[14:59] <wrst> I hear unit files and all of that are supposed to be better too but I have no clue on any of that
[15:11] <ifsp> wrst: So arch still treating you well? I have it on my laptop and I'm strongly tempted to replace Ubuntu on my desktop after many years. It's the stability of LTS stopping me--I'd hate to lose my development environment to a sour -Syu and you hear those stories persistently, even though I'm sure the risk is *actually* minimal.
[15:11] <wrst> ifsp: my thing is watch the updates, check the website, if you need your computer to work wait to update
[15:12] <ifsp> How often do you catch breaking changes?
[15:13] <wrst> last major thing that I was realy worried about was changing /bin or whatever that was
[15:13] <wrst> but had a step by step how to do it
[15:15] <wrst> and systemd was another one of those instances but just random breakage I've never had it
[15:19] <wrst> ifsp: I keep things pretty vanilla, no custom kernels, minimal aur packages etc so my system always seems to work well
[15:20] <wrst> no proprietary drivers either for video since it is intel
[15:24] <ifsp> That's nice. I'm tempted to go back to intel on my next build for that reason.
[15:26] <ifsp> Plenty of weird issues with my nvidia card, to wit rooted in developers trying to guess at driver APIs.
[15:26] <ifsp> Or applying the LCD principle.
[15:28] <ifsp> I love the AUR though and the limited obsfucation in system properties; not to mention the impressive wiki.
[15:31] <ifsp> I feel like I'm talking myself in to it. :D Could be a fun Friday project and I can always dual boot until I man up.
[16:09] <wrst> ha ha ifsp
[16:09] <wrst> hello hashbrowns_