[00:00] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: that's the keyboard shortcut, you can set it to whatever you want
[00:00] <newtoubuntu> The problem is that whenever I press the key to be recognized when I'm setting the shortcut, it brings up the Unity search function instead.
[00:02] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: press on it once so it says w accelerator or whatever
[00:02] <EriC^^> then press the buttons you want
[00:03] <newtoubuntu> Pressed on it.
[00:03] <newtoubuntu> Whats next?
[00:03] <rambler2> how do you uninstall software?
[00:04] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: you can use the software center or apt-get at the command line
[00:04] <EriC^^> after it says w accelerator, hold down the buttons you want to use as the keyboard shortcut
[00:04] <spaztik> rambler2: how did you install it? lol
[00:04] <EriC^^> rambler2: how did you install it?
[00:04] <rambler2> software center
[00:04] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: you can uninstall there too
[00:04] <newtoubuntu> There is no reaction when I hold down the key.
[00:05] <rambler2> ty
[00:05] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: just search for the package again and click like you're going to install and you should see remove, np
[00:06] <pavlos> newtoubuntu, it should change the text from Disabled to the key you assigned.
[00:06] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: maybe the shortcut is already taken, try another combo
[00:06] <newtoubuntu> pavlos: The text does not change from disabled.
[00:06] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: you need to hold the meta key like ctrl or alt or super/windows or whatever then hit some other key, I think there may be a problem with remapping the windows key itself
[00:07] <newtoubuntu> waffloj0ck: I can't hold down any other buttons when I'm assigning this key. I only want one key to have to be pressed.
[00:08] <newtoubuntu> waffej0ck: I'm planning to use the XPS 12 in tablet mode.
[00:08] <pavlos> newtoubuntu, try to assign it to another key and see if that works. Maybe this key is particular to DELL
[00:08] <newtoubuntu> pavlos: Tried another key combo. Works perfectly. Just not the key I want.
[00:09] <spaztik> is there a way on CLI to see what packages are in a ppa
[00:10] <newtoubuntu> I tried running xev in the terminal. The system recognizes the hardware key, but something is not happening that is not allowing it to work.
[00:10] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: I've used stuff shown in this post before for mapping other keys http://askubuntu.com/questions/296155/how-can-i-remap-keyboard-keys that or xbindkeys I think was the other package that will let you take a more hands on approach
[00:10] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: maybe it's already assigned
[00:10] <newtoubuntu> I think I may have to write a custom script.
[00:11] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: yeah pretty sure the xbindkeys solution I was using for KDE for mapping some numkeys that weren't working correctly otherwise and ended up having a script to set that up on boot
[00:12] <newtoubuntu> How would I get it to work without installing anything, though? Is that possible?
[00:14] <newtoubuntu> I can show the results I get from running xev, if that would help. Not exactly tech-savvy, this is my first entry into using Linux, so a step-by-step instruction would help immensely.
[00:16] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: think xmodmap is built in and allows you to map one key to another action think the post I linked above is probably as close as you'll find to a step by step, what exactly is it you're trying to do though
[00:17] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: which button do you want to use?
[00:17] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: The XPS 12 has a Windows Key under the screen. I want to use that key.
[00:17] <EriC^^> if you don't use it for anything else, you could map it to a different unused shortcut button
[00:17] <newtoubuntu> wafflej0ck: I want to use the key mentioned to EriC^^ to bring up the onscreen keyboard on demand.
[00:18] <EriC^^> ok what's the keycode that xev gives?
[00:18] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: okay gotcha
[00:19] <newtoubuntu> Where would I find the keycode?
[00:19] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: type xev, press the button, should say keycode <number>
[00:20] <MosesEX> rww, THE DEAL IS FUCKING OFF I WILL NOT BUY FREENODE SO SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS
[00:20] <newtoubuntu> Would it be under KeymapNotify?
[00:20] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: also, press the other button you want and get it's name
[00:20] <Xheartt> hi everyone, i upgraded from 12.04.5 LTS to 14.04 LTS and it is very slow now. In this chat I see dots and have to go over with the mouse for the words to appear.
[00:21] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: it's like this  keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L)
[00:21] <EriC^^> it's around in the middle
[00:21] <Fleetflame> Xheartt: try un-maximizing the client
[00:21] <Fleetflame> goes a little smoother for me
[00:21] <Xheartt> how i do that?
[00:22] <Xheartt> how i do un-maximizing?
[00:22] <Fleetflame> Xheartt: of the three buttons in top left corner, click the one with a square on it
[00:22] <EriC^^> click the square button next to minimize
 So how do I upgrade to 14.10 ?
[00:23] <EriC^^> samthewildone: sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:23] <samthewildone> samthewildone@Olympus:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:23] <samthewildone> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[00:23] <samthewildone> No new release found
[00:23] <Avenger> buy freenode and shut the network down? what a clown!
[00:23] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get update first
[00:23] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: I can't seem to find the keycode result. Lemme do some more digging.
[00:23] <samthewildone> EriC^^, did that
[00:24] <Xheartt> fleetflame i can not see ur message if this chat scrolls
[00:24] <samthewildone> EriC^^, let me remind you that I'm on Ubuntu Gnome
[00:24] <EriC^^> samthewildone: try update-manager in the terminal
[00:24] <Fleetflame> Xheartt: click on a different window and come back quickly
[00:24] <Bashing-om> samthewildone: What returns -> grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades < - ?
[00:24] <samthewildone> EriC^^, I think I have to wait till the devs push the gnome edition.
[00:25] <Fleetflame> I had the same problem in Xchat on Ubuntu....but this is an old computer
[00:25] <EriC^^> Xheartt: which client are you using?
[00:25] <rww> samthewildone: if you're on 14.04, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change prompt=lts to prompt=normal
[00:25] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: Hmm. I don't think it's there. The last line is PropertyNofiy event, serial 37
[00:25] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: I don't think it's being recognized by xev either.
[00:25] <Xheartt> i clicked on the top and clicked unmaximize it is much better now!
[00:25] <Xheartt> thanks
[00:25] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: are other keys working?
[00:26] <Xheartt> eric how i check the client to let u know?
[00:26] <samthewildone> rww, I have it @ Prompt=never
[00:26] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: The button is recognized somehow, it just brings up the Unity search function. All other keys on the keyboard are working.
[00:26] <rww> samthewildone: change it to prompt=normal
[00:26] <EriC^^> Xheartt: are you on xchat?
[00:26] <Xheartt> yes
[00:26] <Xheartt> i can see the whole chat now after un maximize
[00:26] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: I think I may be running xev wrong. Pressing other keys dosen't produce a response from the terminal.
[00:26] <EriC^^> Xheartt: great, you can use pageup/pagedown to scroll too
[00:27] <TheDuckDude> lol?
[00:27] <Xheartt> lol!
[00:27] <Xheartt> thanks
[00:27] <samthewildone> rww & EriC^^ thanks
[00:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[00:27] <Xheartt> yes it is an old computer
[00:28] <Xheartt> but it was running well with 12.04 LTS
[00:28] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: try running xev, and putting the mouse over the white box
[00:28] <samthewildone> i'll be back in ~5 minutes
[00:28] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: I get entries in the terminal from moving the mouse.
[00:29] <pavlos> newtoubuntu, press F11, you should see keycode 95
[00:29] <Xheartt> with 14.04 LTS the pages when closed fade away instead of closing fast
[00:30] <newtoubuntu> pavlos: Xev dosen't seem to recognize physical keypresses, only my touchpad movements.
[00:30] <Fleetflame> Xheartt: I'm running 14.04 on a Pentium 4 with 512MB of RAM....it taxes the computer pretty hard
[00:30] <Fleetflame> I think this is an '09 computer
[00:31] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: you should see a little window too with xev (or at least I do)
[00:31] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: if that window has focus (click on it) then the key strokes get captured
[00:32] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: that said the windows key causes it to lose focus so might be a problem
[00:32] <Xheartt> this is intel celeron cpu 2.4 - 32bit...
[00:32] <ecpo> hi
[00:34] <Xheartt> ?
[00:34] <newtoubuntu> wafflej0ck: I think I might have got it. Is is the numbers that appear in a a grid?
[00:35] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: should actually say keycode next to it in the terminal with xev, you could also try, xmodmap -pk | grep -i super
[00:35] <Xheartt> after install 14.04 LTS for the first time is there something else i need to download?
[00:36] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: some people here suggest opening a new X Session too so the thing capturing the keybinding right now doesn't get in the way of running xev http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49650/how-to-get-keycodes-for-xmodmap
[00:36] <anony> hello can anyone help me please
[00:37] <anony> how do i install my wireless driver on Lubunto
[00:37] <Fleetflame> anony: don't ask to ask, just ask!
[00:37] <wafflej0ck> Xheartt: have you checked the additional drivers to see if there are hardware/GPU drivers available?
[00:37] <newtoubuntu> wafflej0ck: I think I got it! Its keycode 133 on both the keypress event and keyrelease events.
[00:37] <anony> ok fleetflame
[00:37] <Xheartt> No wafflejock
[00:37] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: yeah sounds about right same thing here for my winkey
[00:38] <wafflej0ck> Xheartt: check that out first see if there are any suggested drivers for your hardware
[00:38] <Xheartt> what is the command on the terminal window?
[00:38] <wafflej0ck> Xheartt: more properly they are kernel modules I'm pretty sure but they call it Additional Drivers in the Unity Dash or applications
[00:38] <anony> how do i install my wireless drivers on lubunto
[00:39] <Xheartt> i really do not know how to search for those drivers
[00:39] <Xheartt> any recommendations?
[00:39] <wafflej0ck> Xheartt: just hit winkey then type Additional Drivers
[00:39] <newtoubuntu> wafflej0ck: So would this mean I will have to reassign my super key? How would I go about doing that?
[00:40] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: which key do you want it to be?
[00:41] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: this shows how to change the mapping of the keys so it's mapped to some other key, I suppose you could map it to something you don't regularly use (maybe pause/break or something like that) then I imagine you'd be able to use the key mapping GUI tool to have it use that key
[00:41] <wafflej0ck> http://askubuntu.com/questions/296155/how-can-i-remap-keyboard-keys
[00:41] <anony> ?
[00:41] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: I would like to remap it to the left Alt key. Does Ubuntu differentiate between the left and right alt keys though?
[00:41] <wafflej0ck> anony: I can help you determine what hardware you have but you'll need to see if there are drivers available or if you have to use NDIS wrapper or some other way to get them working
[00:42] <wafflej0ck> anony: lately I haven't had problems with wifi though so not sure the best current approach to fixing it
[00:42] <wafflej0ck> anony: is it built in wireless or usb?
[00:42] <anony> built in
[00:42] <pavlos> anony, type lspci and find the wireless chipset you have, then search online to find drivers
[00:42] <anony> its a hpp mini 110
[00:42] <anony> hp *
[00:43] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^ wafflej0ck: Would it be possible to make the two keys separate though? As in, the windows key on the screen being separate from the windows key on the keyboard.
[00:43] <amagee> Ok I just got a TP-link USB WiFi adapter for my PC. Ubuntu 14.04 is detecting the card fine and it's finding some of the networks in range, but it's refusing to connect to my actual WiFi router. The same card is connecting to the network fine in Windows, but when I try to use the nm-applet to connect to the network, firstly it doesn't come up in the list, then if I try to add it using "add hidden WiFi network", it will spin around for a while and then fail
[00:43] <amagee> to connect. Any ideas?
[00:43] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: yes it does
[00:43] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: How would I go about doing that?
[00:44] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: xmodmap -e "keycode 133=Alt_L"
[00:44] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: it's not persistent though
[00:44] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: I mean the two windows keys. Is that possible? Sorry for confusing you.
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> anony: lspci -k | grep -i network -A2
[00:44] <hjeong> hi
[00:44] <anony> i have a RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[00:45] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: i suppose so, no idea how though
[00:46] <wafflej0ck> anony: can you paste out the output from the command still
[00:46] <wafflej0ck> anony: that helps though
[00:46] <anony> Network controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe	Kernel driver in use: rt309	Kernel modules: rt3090sta
[00:47] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: Alrighty. I want to also assign a second button, the screen rotate button as well. http://blog.jay.sh/ubuntu-12-10-on-the-dell-xps-12/
[00:47] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: But the pressing the screen rotate button comes out with keymap 133 too.
[00:47] <amagee> i'm not sure if this matters but in nm-applet the device calls itself a "RealTek USB Wlan" even though it's actually a TP-link
[00:47] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: Any idea on how this person did it?
[00:47] <anony> this is what it says
[00:48] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: i think the keycode's are wrong
[00:48] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: Am I doing something wrong in using xev?
[00:48] <anony> Kernel driver in use: ahci	Kernel modules: ahci00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)	Kernel modules: i2c-i80101:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 04)	Kernel driver in use: r8169	Kernel modules: r816901:00.1 Class ff00: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 5288 (rev 01)02:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 80
[00:48] <anony> 2.11n 1T/1R PCIe	Kernel driver in use: rt3090 Kernel modules: rt3090sta
[00:48] <wafflej0ck> anony: hmm seems like the right kernel module have you checked dmesg for things related to the wifi?
[00:49] <anony> wafflej0ck what do you mean
[00:49] <wafflej0ck> anony: just run, dmesg, see if you see any obvious messages about wifi or ralink or the like failing
[00:50] <anony> run what dmesg
[00:50] <wafflej0ck> anony: the Kernel modules: rt3090sta <-- tells us that's the driver it's using but that corresponds to your PCIe device
[00:50] <wafflej0ck> anony: just type dmesg in a terminal, it will show you messages in the kernel ring buffer which usually include driver problems
[00:50] <anony> wafflej0ck i dont know what that means
[00:50] <wafflej0ck> anony: k you know about the terminal right?
[00:51] <cyberjam3s> Hi. How to update Ubuntu for security updates only? I'm currently on version 11.10... Sorry if this sounds newbie.
[00:51] <anony> wafflej0ck yeh
[00:51] <wafflej0ck> anony: wait of course you do just ran lspci :P sorry
[00:51] <wafflej0ck> anony: so yeah in there just run, dmesg
[00:51] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: The keycodes are wrong because I'm recongnizing them wrong or is the system recognizing them wrong?
[00:51] <anony> wafflej0ck ok
[00:51] <wafflej0ck> anony: it will show a ton of text that is messages from the core of the operating system, it seems like you have the right wifi drivers loaded but something is failing with them still
[00:52] <wafflej0ck> anony: so just looking to dmesg to see if anything jumps out about the wifi
[00:52] <Bashing-om> cyberjam3s: Release 11.10 is End-Of-Life, and no longer has support; install a current release.
[00:52] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: i have 133 for Super_L
[00:52] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: it's odd that another key has 133 too though
[00:53] <cyberjam3s> Bashing-om: thanks for that info. that means I have to build a new server and install new current release and migrate the old data?
[00:53] <wafflej0ck> cyberjam3s: yes
[00:53] <cyberjam3s> I see wafflej0ck
[00:53] <anony> wafflej0ck i cant really do that is there anyway i can post the whole command and you can have a look please
[00:53] <wafflej0ck> cyberjam3s: Ubuntu has LTS releases with longer support like 12.04 or 14.04 (should be supported till 2019 on the latter I'm pretty sure)
[00:53] <pavlos> wafflej0ck, anony ... that driver has issues with new kernels http://askubuntu.com/questions/478018/ralink-rt3090-in-ubuntu-14-04-very-bad-reception-keeps-disconnecting
[00:54] <Bashing-om> cyberjam3s: Yes, that is the 'safer' thing to do. while one may release upgrade on line .. ->
[00:54] <Bashing-om> !eol | cyberjam3s
[00:54] <wafflej0ck> anony: yeah you can pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit, then pastebinit dmesg or dmesg > pastebinit)
[00:55] <cyberjam3s> Bashing-om and wafflej0ck, I appreciate your response and suggestion. thanks!
[00:55] <Bashing-om> cyberjam3s: WE are all here to help, guide and assist.
[00:55] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: just found this cool command, xmodmap -pke
[00:55] <EriC^^> it'll list all keycodes and what they're assigned to
[00:56] <anony> how do i paste bin
[00:57] <anony> how do i paste bin it
[00:57] <michael_mbp> hey guys
[00:57] <wafflej0ck> anony: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:57] <michael_mbp> what's the best way to test for an ENV var in a bash script, ${var?} ?
[00:57] <Bashing-om> !paste | anony
[00:57] <anony> ive done that
[00:58] <wafflej0ck> anony: then dmesg | pastebinit
[00:58] <michael_mbp> if [ ${var?} ];then ... ?
[00:58] <cyberjam3s> What is the command to install just security updates only from the command line?
[00:58] <wafflej0ck> anony: sorry had that second part wrong initially
[00:58] <michael_mbp> cyber you can also set unattended updates
[00:59] <michael_mbp> iirc that also installs security updates
[00:59] <cyberjam3s> michael_mbp: i see
[00:59] <michael_mbp> google for ubuntu unattended updates
[00:59] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: Thats useful, but how can I use this to help me identify which key is pressed?
[00:59] <anony> im back sorry
[01:00] <anony> what command is it i need to show you again please
[01:00] <wafflej0ck> anony: do dmesg | pastebinit
[01:00] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: what's 133 assigned to?
[01:00] <wafflej0ck> anony: it should give you aurl
[01:00] <wafflej0ck> a url
[01:01] <anony> how many spaces is that
[01:01] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: do you know the name of the screen rotate button?
[01:01] <wafflej0ck> anony: doesn't matter "dmesg | pastebinit"
[01:01] <wafflej0ck> anony: vertical bar in the middle
[01:01] <wafflej0ck> anony: spacing shouldn't matter I don't think though
[01:01] <wafflej0ck> anony: veritcal bar is typically shift+backslash key
[01:01] <anony> what key is verticle line
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> I have a blank keyboard though :)
[01:02] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: 133 is assigned to the left super button. 134 is assigned to the right. I think I can assign the current 133 value to the 134 one and assign the 133 value to the On Screen keyboard.
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> got a DAS ultimate keyboard so no characters on this one :)
[01:03] <Bashing-om> anony: On ascii keyborad the '|" is directly above the enter key, the '|' is upper case .
[01:03] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: looking for the name of the screen rotate button now.
[01:04] <anony> http://pastebin.com/9LknKbUZ
[01:04] <h6w> Anyone else stuck in a loop during the "Cleaning up" phase of the upgrade to 12.10 today?
[01:04] <anony> also do i need to update my system
[01:05] <h6w> Sorry 14.10.
[01:05]  * h6w is stuck in a time warp.  *Does time warm dance.*
[01:05] <ryez> I'm using vsftpd, problem is the server can be accessed via fqdn, but not the short name, how to enable the latter?
[01:05] <wafflej0ck> anony: always good to update
[01:06] <anony> how do i update
[01:06] <wafflej0ck> anony: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade to have the latest packages, typically the GUI will just remind you too
[01:06] <anony> whats gui
[01:06] <wafflej0ck> anony: Graphical User Interface it just means any of the stuff you usually interact with outside the terminal
[01:07] <anony> is there a update manager
[01:07] <wafflej0ck> anony: yeah
[01:07] <anony> were
[01:07] <wafflej0ck> anony: you could use that too I'm personally just used to doing things in the terminal since I SSH in to remote boxes to update them
[01:08] <wafflej0ck> anony: you can just hit winkey and type update
[01:08] <wafflej0ck> anony: you should see software updater or something like that (I'm on ubuntu Gnome so it's a little different here)
[01:08] <anony_> how do i do that
[01:09] <wafflej0ck> just winkey then in the dash search type "Update" you should see software updater you can just click that to run it (I'm assuming here you're on a ethernet line since your wifi has problems)
[01:10] <wafflej0ck> anony: in your dmesg this looks suspect Error 2 opening /etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat
[01:10] <newtoubuntu> Now the question is how to replace a keycode mapping. Anybody know how to do so?
[01:11] <anony_> im really new so i need it simple please thank you
[01:11] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: did you get the name for the screen rotate?
[01:11] <ryez> never mind, my vsftpd issue is resolved, actually irrelevent
[01:12] <ubuntu-studio> wow, theres a lot of people here o_o
[01:12] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: No, I couldn't find it. But it's okay.
[01:12] <wafflej0ck> anony: yeah sorry hard to put yourself in others shoes when you use something every day, will try to keep it simple
[01:12] <newtoubuntu> EriC^^: Can you help me reassign the keycodes though?
[01:12] <wafflej0ck> anony: seems like the error you have there points to some posts though not sure if it's all totally relevant
[01:13] <ubuntu-studio> Algun argentino?
[01:13] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu: yeah but what do you mean
[01:13] <anony_> ok not to sure can i fix this though
[01:13] <EriC^^> !pr | ubuntu-studio
[01:13] <EriC^^> !portugal | ubuntu-studio
[01:14] <wafflej0ck> anony: in the command line copy and paste this: sudo gedit /etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat
[01:14] <EriC^^> !pt | ubuntu-studio
[01:14] <ubuntu-studio> Hola, saludos, estoy probando la sesión Live de US
[01:14] <Apapapa> !pt | JJJJJJJ
[01:15] <anony_> command not found
[01:15] <wafflej0ck> anony: make sure you don't have a space before sudo
[01:15] <wafflej0ck> don't think it should matter but you should have sudo and gedit so not sure what it would complain about
[01:15] <anony_> command not found
[01:16] <ubuntu-studio> Newbie here, testing Live US
[01:16] <EriC^^> anony_: are you typing gedit correctly?
[01:16] <newtoubuntu_> sorry, eric, disconnected for a little there
[01:16] <anony_> yes
[01:16] <EriC^^> anony_: try gksu gedit /etc/Wireless/RT2860STA/RT2860STA.dat
[01:16] <EriC^^> try gedit alone
[01:17] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu_: no problem
[01:17] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu_: so what do you want to assign?
[01:17] <anony_> that command done nothing
[01:18] <newtoubuntu_> the left windows key to ctrl tilde
[01:18] <wafflej0ck> anony: it should open gedit which is a text editor like notepad in windows with that file
[01:18] <anony_> ow waite 2 secs i need install it it gives me command
[01:18] <wafflej0ck> anony: hmm k strange thought gedit was in every *ubuntu distro
[01:18] <rambler2> why is ubuntu so slow on startup
[01:18] <rambler2> my lord
[01:19] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: shouldn't be is way faster than win7 on my desktop
[01:19] <rambler2> way fasteR?
[01:19] <wafflej0ck> yeah
[01:19] <rambler2> are you on an ssd?
[01:19] <rambler2> lol
[01:19] <wafflej0ck> on my laptop I have SSD the desktop with dual boot is an old HDD though
[01:19] <anony_> ok done it its opened up txt
[01:19] <rambler2> really?
[01:19] <rambler2> i boot to desktop, click browser and i still loading for like 30 seconds
[01:20] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: yup to be fair I installed tons of games and a fair amount of random junk on my win 7 machine
[01:20] <rambler2> maybe its because i did inplace install?
[01:20] <rambler2> mayba a clean install would be better
[01:20] <anony_> wafflej0ck
[01:20] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: yeah I rarely have a good time with that, might just be driver issues too if you don't have graphics drivers working then things crawl
[01:20] <wafflej0ck> anony: k is it a blank txt file?
[01:21] <LMNOP> hullo?
[01:21] <anony_> yes wafflej0ck
[01:21] <wafflej0ck> if so add DefaultProofread as one word to the file and save it
[01:21] <wafflej0ck> anony: I'm going based on this right now too btw http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1921673.html
[01:21] <wafflej0ck> anony: looks like the same hardware as you and same behavior so just guiding you through the steps at the bottom here
[01:22] <wafflej0ck> anony: after you save the file with the one word in it run, sudo modprobe -r rt3090sta
[01:22] <wafflej0ck> in the terminal
[01:22] <anony_> i typed in DefaultProofread and its comes up with red box sayingcould not find the file
[01:23] <wafflej0ck> anony: after that command run, sudo modprobe rt3090sta
[01:23] <anony_> do i type the first one again
[01:23] <wafflej0ck> anony: did you open it using sudo before the gedit command?
[01:24] <wafflej0ck> anony: if not you'll need to do that so it has root/admin privileges to save the file there probably
[01:24] <anony_> can you give me all the commands again please
[01:24] <lagbox> what should i be looking into that i just upgraded to 14.04 and have a black screen after boot ... ati radeon not using proprietary
[01:24] <lagbox> 14.10 sorry
[01:24] <wafflej0ck> anony: I'll drop it in a pastebin
[01:25] <lagbox> and black as in screen is off
[01:25] <anony_> ok
[01:25] <LMNOP> test
[01:26] <newtoubuntu_> EriC^^: still there?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> wafflej0ck: anony_ :: A clean fresh install of 14.04, gksu is no longer installed by default.
[01:26] <wafflej0ck> anony: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8648173/
[01:26] <anony_> so if i install the new version it will work
[01:26] <wafflej0ck> Bashing-om: ah okay
[01:27] <anony_> ? so if i put new lubunto iso on usb and reinstall to my pc it will work
[01:27] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu_: yeah sorry
[01:27] <wafflej0ck> anony: what version are you on? lsb_release -a
[01:27] <anony_> awh ive got it on pc already thats see u soon
[01:28] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu_: missed your msg
[01:28] <newtoubuntu_> what command would I have to use to reassign left windows key to ctrl + 1?
[01:28] <EriC^^> so left windows key to the button next to 1
[01:28] <newtoubuntu_> yeah, the tilde key, whatever thats called
[01:28] <newtoubuntu_> sorry, typed 1 by accident
[01:29] <newtoubuntu_> reading the documentation, it seems that xmodmap isnt used anymore
[01:29] <VirtualMaster> Hello
[01:29] <lagbox> if i boot with recover and go to continue boot atleast i get a display but no compositing
[01:30] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: yeah not sure about that either way but used xbindkeys here in 12.04 and it worked fine
[01:31] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu_: i don't think you can assign it to 2 buttons
[01:31] <EriC^^> not sure
[01:31] <EriC^^> newtoubuntu_: what do you want ctrl+ ` to do?
[01:31] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: used xbindkeys for setting up the keymappings for using the windows key and numpad keys to actions
[01:31] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: not sure about how to activate the on screen keyboard though
[01:32] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: are you using onboard?
[01:32] <newtoubuntu_> wafflej0ck: the shortcut is built in
[01:32] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: or some other on screen keyboard app?
[01:32] <newtoubuntu_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73667/keyboard-shortcut-to-reveal-onscreen-keyboard
[01:32] <newtoubuntu_> the onscreen keyboard that comes with ubuntu
[01:33] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: k
[01:33] <VirtualMaster> Can any one help me? my root partition is almost full and I am trying to increase its size... Here's the screenshot of my gparted http://imgur.com/Aaf4gDt, I have un allocated space of 20GB. So, can i extend my root partition using the unallocated space?
[01:33] <newtoubuntu_> I plan to use this shortcut and assign ctrl + ` to it because the super key dosen't work
[01:33] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: looks like they're using onboard there
[01:34] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: appears to not be installed on 14.04 by default
[01:34] <newtoubuntu_> wafflej0ck: its there for me
[01:34] <wafflej0ck> er at least not Ubuntu Gnome 14.04
[01:34] <newtoubuntu_> is xbindkeys a gui?
[01:34] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: naw it's just based on some config file you setup
[01:34] <newtoubuntu_> i think that if it is I can figure it out easier.
[01:34] <newtoubuntu_> oh
[01:35] <SaEeDIRHA> hello , how can i choose the fastest mirror for apt-get through the command line ?
[01:35] <newtoubuntu_> hopes dashed for an easy solution lol
[01:35] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu_: it's not too bad actually http://www.butlerpc.net/blog/2011/01/using-xbindkeys-on-ubuntu-linux-to-remap-key-commands/
[01:36] <newtoubuntu_> i have to go, but ill try and figure it out on my own
[01:36] <wafflej0ck> SaEeDIRHA: Google has the answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[01:36] <newtoubuntu_> i may come back later
[01:36] <newtoubuntu_> thanks all
[01:37] <VirtualMaster> wafflej0ck, can you help me?
[01:38] <wafflej0ck> VirtualMaster: hey yeah didn't see your question at first but sounds like you should be able to do it using a live CD or USB
[01:38] <wafflej0ck> VirtualMaster: typically you can't really modify the partition if it's mounted and being used as the main drive
[01:38] <wafflej0ck> VirtualMaster: but if you use GParted from a live media then you can modify the main system
[01:39] <VirtualMaster> i tried using live usb .. but its not booting.. says.. modprobe, kernel errors.. can recall those errors..
[01:39] <wafflej0ck> VirtualMaster: always backup first too I use Clonezilla most of the time
[01:39] <VirtualMaster> cant recall*
[01:39] <wafflej0ck> VirtualMaster: hmm strange, make sure you check the md5sum on the download vs what is on the site where you download it from and can check it on the drive itself too, would have to google for details on that though
[01:40] <lagbox> any reason i am having graphical issues after upgrade to 14.10 but if i boot to recovery i have a display ?
[01:40] <wafflej0ck> lagbox: likely graphics driver issues
[01:40] <VirtualMaster> Thanks wafflej0ck, i will give it a try.. will come back later.
[01:41] <Bashing-om> lagbox: Graphics driver ? Try booting with the 'nomodeset' boot paramater .
[01:41] <lagbox> ah ... i would rather not use fglrx
[01:41] <wafflej0ck> lagbox: you can use, lspci -k to see all the hardware/drivers loaded and depending on your hardware can install packages from the repos that might work better than whatever is there right now
[01:41] <Bashing-om> !nomodest | lagbox
[01:41] <wafflej0ck> VirtualMaster: k godspeed
[01:42] <Bashing-om> |nomodeset | lagbox
[01:42] <wafflej0ck> heh
[01:42] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | lagbox
[01:42] <wafflej0ck> third times the charm Bashing-om :)
[01:42] <Bashing-om> finally !
[01:42] <lagbox> thank you
[01:44] <Bashing-om> lagbox: When you are able to boot to the desk top, -> Additional Drivers, and install the recommended driver.
[01:44] <lagbox> brb
[01:44] <lagbox> i would rather not use fglrx
[01:45] <wafflej0ck> lagbox: why's that? just curious? bad experience or ideals?
[01:45] <lagbox> both
[01:45] <lagbox> hopefully it is better than it was but i am fine with the open source drivers, when they work
[01:45] <wafflej0ck> hmm k I switched to nvidia or intel stuff for the most part so have been away from the AMD/ATI stuff for a whie but in terms of drivers I typically use what works best which isn't inline with ideals but it is what it is
[01:46] <Bashing-om> lagbox: We can look and see what graphics card(s) you have, and maybe then make a suggestion ? - Want to try and boot to a terminal ?
[01:46] <lagbox> [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7520G] [1002:9990]
[01:46] <lagbox> had no issues with 14.04 so i think it may just be a boot option i didn't realize i had set previously
[01:48] <Bashing-om> lagbox: So far, so good, that card is certified .
[01:48] <wafflej0ck> lagbox: also just out of curiousity why'd you decide to go 14.10? are you okay with the instability and troubleshooting you'll need to do, if not you might just want to stick with 14.04
[01:48] <lagbox> gonna test
[01:49] <lagbox> i have always moved to the next release since ubuntu came out
[01:49] <lagbox> im fine with it
[01:49] <wafflej0ck> I thought about it but nothing really compelling in 14.10 for me, if anything think I would just add in a PPA from webupd8 for more advanced versions of gnome... cool just wondering
[01:49] <lagbox> though i noticed as well nothing major is going on with it
[01:50] <squinty> yet.......  :P
[01:50] <wafflej0ck> yeah think the focus is just on mobile right now
[01:50] <Bashing-om> lagbox: Per:http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201209-11640/ ; FGLRX is required.
[01:50] <wafflej0ck> k sorry getting off track :)
[01:51] <lagbox> yea i have always thought that was an odd decision by them
[01:51] <lagbox> Bashing-om, interesting, so for 14.10 its required
[01:52] <lagbox> yea thats odd
[01:53] <lagbox> hehe what is full functionality
[01:53] <lagbox> i dont need full functionality
[01:53] <Bashing-om> lagbox: Well, the reference was in 12.04.2 , a lot of work has been done in open source drivers, so ??????
[01:53] <lagbox> yea
[01:53] <lagbox> i have been using the open source drivers the entire time
[01:54] <lagbox> only if i wanted hdmi out did i have to play the driver switch game
[01:54] <lagbox> but if fglrx is nice and stable it might be worth using it
[01:54] <Bashing-om> lagbox: Boot to terminal, and see if any driver al all is loaded -> sudo lshw -C display .
[01:54] <Scyth> hi ppl! everything cool?
[01:54] <lagbox> unclaimed
[01:54] <lagbox> i did boot from recovery
[01:54] <lagbox> haven't rebooted yet
[01:55] <Bashing-om> lagbox: From recovery, it would have no driver loaded. ( uses a fall back driver from the kernel) .
[01:55] <lagbox> im gonna try the nomodeset real quick
[01:56] <wafflej0ck> Scyth: yup doing well here, you have an issue or here to help? if not might want to jump in #ubuntu-offtopic to just chat
[01:56] <lagbox> indeed
[01:56] <lagbox> brb
[01:56] <Bashing-om> lagbox: roger, but 'nomodeset' also will not load a graphic's driver. same same .. fall back driver.
[01:57] <mike> CrackThis09
[01:57] <skyfall> how to uninstall applications that are installed using wine ?
[01:58] <skyfall> anybody ??
[01:58] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: sorry don't use wine here
[01:58] <skyfall> anybody there ?
[01:59] <squinty> skyfall:  /join #winehq     that is the official wine channel
[01:59] <wafflej0ck> !wine
[02:00] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: looks like wine uninstaller
[02:00] <skyfall> ok
[02:01] <lagbox> what was that last command with the display ?
[02:02] <lagbox> so i booted, but same issue as before .... feels like the same fallback driver
[02:02] <rambler2> does lubuntu have an in place upgrade that keeps windows 7?
[02:02] <skyfall> hey my battery is draining so fast in ubuntu than in windows
[02:03] <skyfall> im using asus laptop
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: pretty sure the release upgrade process doesn't do any repartitioning though it will probably install a newer version of grub
[02:03] <skyfall> any way to solve this issue ?
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: check out powertop
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> !powertop
[02:03] <skyfall> can u tell me how
[02:03] <lagbox> still unclaimed display
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> !info powertop
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> hmm
[02:03] <lagbox> where are these drivers even set anymore ?
[02:03] <wontoner> reinstall.
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: yeah just, sudo apt-get install powertop
[02:03] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: then, sudo powertop
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[02:04] <wontoner> you last bossed it, bro
[02:04] <M1keHoax> Has anyone had any issues with their desktop background not displaying?
[02:05] <M1keHoax> I installed Variety but I am not sure if that is the root of the issue
[02:05] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: you can hit tab to get to the last one for tweaking power settings the other parts just display information about power consumption
[02:05] <rambler2> is lubuntu really fast? i heard its snappier than ubuntu
[02:05] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: when you select a row that says Bad you can hit enter to toggle the power saving settings for the various devices... in terms of saving this I haven't actually done that myself but pretty sure it's doable
[02:05] <ghost13b> yes im on it now
[02:06] <skyfall> hey i got the power list
[02:06] <wontoner> install bash.
[02:06] <sgen> Im trying to setup ssh keys for a git user on a vps
[02:06] <skyfall> but still unable to find the issue
[02:06] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: lxde the desktop environment it's typically way lighter in memory and CPU and GPU usage compared with Unity or Gnome 3 or KDE 4
[02:07]  * wontoner goes back to his kernel panik cartoons.
[02:07] <sgen> When I ssh-copy-id a key for my own user (sgen) to the vps (with user sgen@ip) it works fine, but when I  try and ssh-copy-id a key to the git user (git@ip) it fails/ How can I fix this?
[02:07] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: all the *ubuntu packages are basically the same core packages with a few different desktop apps installed and a different DE
[02:07] <somsip> sgen: maybe have to specify the user as ssh with no user assume the current user
[02:08] <Bashing-om> lagbox: Maybe still ubuntu Software Center ->Software Sources(edit menu option on top task bar) ->Additional Drivers (tab in Software Sources) .
[02:08] <rambler2> wafflej0ck, is lxde just a DE?
[02:08] <sgen> somsip: I did, I used ssh-copy-id git@ip
[02:08] <somsip> sgen: ok - not that then
[02:08] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: yup you can install them alongside Unity typically
[02:08] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: I know it works with KDE or Gnome, haven't tried LXDE myself though
[02:09] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: when you install gnome-desktop it adds a drop down to select gnome at the login screen so you just logout and can login using the other DE
[02:10] <lagbox> this device is using the recommended drivers (x.org amd/ati)   but i also have the option for the 2 fglrx
[02:10] <wafflej0ck> sgen: can you ssh in as the git user? I haven't used ssh-copy-id I think I just sshed in to the server and added by public key to the authorized_keys file in the git .ssh folder
[02:11] <wontoner> USB drop.. choke point.. can't.. handle.. pain..
[02:11] <sgen> wafflej0ck, yes but I have to use the password (not the key passcode the git users password)
[02:11] <wontoner> core wars joke.
[02:14] <BradTN> Any ubuntu gods on>
[02:14] <BradTN> ?
[02:14] <BradTN> I need help like you wouldnt believe
[02:14] <BradTN> gonna bang my head against a brick wall
[02:14] <somsip> BradTN: just ask the question
[02:14] <BradTN> long and short of it is
[02:14] <BradTN> My ubuntu box which ive been running for a good long time now crashes my router when plugged into it
[02:15] <BradTN> and even when direct connect to modem
[02:15] <BradTN> I was told that maybe it was the shell shock vulnerability bug
[02:15] <BradTN> so i updated to ubuntu 14.04
[02:15] <BradTN> same issue
[02:15] <BradTN> No clue what to do
[02:15] <BradTN> I thought maybe Deluge was causing it
[02:15] <BradTN> I uninstalled that
[02:15] <BradTN> same issue
[02:15] <daftykins> step 1) stop pressing enter so much. step 2) boot a live session and compare.
[02:16] <BradTN> even with live session
[02:16] <BradTN> How can i see whats going on
[02:16] <BradTN> any advice any command to list something?
[02:16] <daftykins> "even with live session" what?
[02:16] <anony_> what can open a .xz file to etract
[02:17] <BradTN> I mean on the box as it is currently
[02:17] <BradTN> isnt there something i can check to see wtf is going on
[02:17] <anony_> ?
[02:18] <BradTN> because even if i boot a live session and the issue doesnt exist i still need to fix it lol and i have a software raid im running that im trying not to lose :(
[02:19] <daftykins> BradTN: confirm it from a live session first.
[02:19] <BradTN> ok sir
[02:19] <BradTN> thank you
[02:19] <BradTN> oh and btw
[02:19] <wafflej0ck> anony_: you can try file-roller
[02:19] <BradTN> tried several ethernet cables
[02:20] <anony_> how do i get that and the new version on lubunto wouldnt work and my wireless still wont work
[02:20] <BradTN> just started all randomly
[02:25] <wafflej0ck> anony_: you get through the steps in the paste?
[02:26] <ubuntu> guys
[02:26] <halpm8> anyone lurking
[02:26] <skyfall> can anyone tell me how to turn on the wireless powersaving in ubuntu ?
[02:27] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: you should add you used powertop already but just that device couldn't be toggled to use powersavings mode
[02:27] <skyfall> my battery is still draining so fast
[02:28] <skyfall> :(
[02:28] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: also since it works on my machine would be good to say exactly what hardware you're using, lspci -k | grep -i network -A3
[02:28] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: did you check the system monitor to see if the CPU is grinding on some process
[02:28] <halpm8> Hey can someone tell me how i can choose which port i connect to when choosing a server
[02:28] <skyfall> no waff;ejock
[02:28] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: check the system monitor, or in the command line you can use the command, top
[02:29] <pigbenis> Hello I have a MBP 7,1 (2010) 13" laptop. I'm having problems booting my operating system in legacy bios mode. It's booting normally in EFI (despite me having to add the nodeset boot option to the kernel). I have gotten my MBP to boot in legacy bios before and what's strange now it's that it no longer works, no matter the OS.). The screen just goes white and has a bunch of black lines moving around. Did something fry?
[02:29] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: in powertop too in the Device stats you can see how much power is being used by different devices in the system to see if wifi is a big issue anyhow
[02:29] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: better to chat it through in the main chat here too though in case others know more about the specifics
[02:30] <wafflej0ck> pigbenis: sounds like some GPU issue not sure though
[02:31] <skyfall> should i install any additional drivers ?
[02:31] <skyfall> i have an external graphics card. Nvidia
[02:31] <skyfall> geforce 520mx
[02:31] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: yeah check additional drivers
[02:31] <wafflej0ck> skyfall: if they are available they might help
[02:31] <Shiru>  /join #javascript
[02:31] <skyfall> my laptop is not getting heated much
[02:32] <skyfall> much still the battery drains so fast
[02:32] <Shiru> sorry, mistake
[02:32] <skyfall> in additional drivers its using the recommended driver
[02:35] <newtoubuntu_> Hello everybody, I'm back again. Can somebody help me?
[02:36] <somsip> newtoubuntu_: just ask your question
[02:36] <Celroc> Hello newtoubuntu_, welcome back.  Please let us know how we can help you :-)
[02:37] <newtoubuntu_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/540825/having-trouble-reassigning-keys
[02:37] <newtoubuntu_> My entire question is in that post. Please read it and see if you can help me, thanks!
[02:40] <pigbenis> wafflej0ck: dammit
[02:40] <pigbenis> #join nvidia
[02:41] <newtoubuntu_> Anybody?
[02:42] <Celroc> newtoubuntu_: I don't know much about reassigning keys in ubuntu, but this site might help you: askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices
[02:42] <BradTN> ok
[02:42] <BradTN> Ran live session
[02:42] <BradTN> hooked into ethernet
[02:42] <BradTN> issue isnt present but now how do i figure out the issue lol
[02:47] <wafflej0ck> pigbenis: regarding switching between legacy BIOS and EFI believe that requires changes to the boot loader configuration typically
[02:47] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: what exactly happens, when you plug in the ethernet does the router become unresponsive to pings?
[02:47] <pigbenis> wafflej0ck: yes I have done that
[02:47] <BradTN> yes wafflej0ck
[02:47] <BradTN> it crashes the whole router
[02:47] <BradTN> and i can be connected like 5 mins at a time
[02:48] <BradTN> and anything connected to the router
[02:48] <BradTN> via wifi or ethernet
[02:48] <rambler2> how do i get ubuntu to boot to cinamon desktop? have it installed currently
[02:48] <BradTN> experiences the same
[02:48] <BradTN> its as if its overloading my router with connections
[02:49] <Celroc> rambler2: When you log out of your user account, the login screen should have a place where you can choose which desktop session you want to use
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/476793/how-to-change-the-default-desktop-environment-that-appears-in-the-greeter-in-1
[02:49] <rambler2> cellardoor, i did that.. but when i restart it goes back to the unity or whatever its callde
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: you can check tcpdump
[02:49] <BradTN> do you wish for me to run this command from terminal sir?
[02:50] <lagbox> so i installed the fglrx drivers and now i have a desktop again ... and they seem to work better than the last time i used them
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: eh well trying to think of the easiest way to pin it down... tcpdump will show all the packets being sent on an interface
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: you run it like, sudo tcpdump -i eth0
[02:50] <lagbox> i can actually get to virtual terminals in this version
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> where eth0 is the connection, you can use ifconfig to see the interfaces
[02:50] <snpresent> hello
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> lagbox: nice
[02:50] <BradTN> ok well i have to get back into my box and ill do that
[02:51] <BradTN> ill probably get disconnected
[02:51] <bash_> :(
[02:51] <BradTN> but ill brb
[02:51] <BradTN> thanks
[02:51] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: problem is you'll have lots of traffic if you have anything open
[02:51] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: np
[02:51] <lagbox> gives me time now to figure out why the other drivers are having issues
[02:51] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: you might want to use wireshark it's a GUI version of tcpdump basically
[02:51] <BradTN> hm ok
[02:51] <BradTN> and when i get this info
[02:51] <BradTN> how would you like to view it sir
[02:52] <rambler2> wafflej0ck, what is this?
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> well that's the problem with just straight tcpdumping everything will be hard to see what's going on probably, same in wireshark but basically just try to shutdown anything that would be using the network then see what is flooding the network
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> BradTN: ^
[02:52] <BradTN> ok
[02:52] <BradTN> brb
[02:52] <BradTN> i hope..
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: for setting up which DE is used by default
[02:53] <lagbox> thanks for the help guys
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> lagbox: yup glad you got it sorted, graphics problems are a pain
[02:54] <wafflej0ck> #1 is graphics problems #2 is wifi issues still it seems like
[02:54] <rambler2> wafflej0ck, ok, what do i put though?
[02:54] <rambler2> user-session=ubuntu it says in the file
[02:54] <lagbox> yea ... my problem is i figure out a problem, fix it and i can't remember the next time i install
[02:54] <wafflej0ck> lagbox: yeah good to leave yourself notes... I use google drive for everything now basically
[02:55] <rambler2> and i wont let me save lol
[02:55] <rambler2> god this operating system is just too much work
[02:55] <rambler2> have to jump through hoops just to edit a file and save it?
[02:56] <lagbox> any changes to the hud and notifications in 14.10 in unity ?
[02:56] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: it's file permissions you get used to it and it's there to stop regular users from shooting themselves in the foot or hackers from having access to everything
[02:57] <bash_> I miss linux; bought an Acer S7 last year.  big mistake.
[02:57] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/456766/how-to-set-default-session-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts <-- did you follow this link about 14.04 in that post
[02:57] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: you need to use sudo command to run a program as admin/root
[02:57] <lagbox> used to be able to scroll on the volume indicator and have a osd show a volume bar
[02:57] <rambler2> this is a different guide ^_^
[02:58] <lagbox> hehe .... all minor things now :)
[02:58] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: it's a link from the one I posted at first but the first was for 12.04
[02:58] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: my bad there, sorry
[02:58] <Aziroshin> Hello :o
[02:58] <Aziroshin> Is there a way to verify downloads from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.16-utopic/?
[02:58] <rambler2> nah dude, its cool, you dont have to be sorry youre helping me for free lol
[02:59] <rambler2> sorry if i come off cunty, this is just frustrating coming from windows
[02:59] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: yeah learning all the new crap is a pain at first but really learning all the junk about windows registry wasn't any better
[02:59] <bash_> I'm testing 14.10 live; anybody know how to get "pinch-to-zoom" working with the touchpad?
[02:59] <rambler2> the thing is though, registry is always the same, just different keys to locate
[02:59] <rambler2> very easy to navigate and edit
[03:00] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: yeah in linux typically you're working with configuration files in the /etc folder
[03:00] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: and you use sudo to edit those config files, so it's not too bad once you're used to it
[03:00] <rambler2> alright, gota try this guide, hopefully my computer doesnt catch fire :d
[03:01] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: also the user stuff is in /home instead of C:\documents and settings\ and your program configurations are usually in hidden files (which in linux are just files that start with a dot) in your home folder
[03:02] <dino82> I copied a file from github but it has all of these weird characters where there werent before, in Notepad they are symbols, in vi they are things like ^C and ^B, is there a tool to fix this?
[03:03] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[03:03] <dino82> Hmm linux related?
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> dino82: have you tried ctrl+shift+v for plain text pasting
[03:05] <rambler2> wafflej0ck, would i just replace ubuntu with cinnamon?
[03:05] <dino82> wafflej0ck: yeah.  I can link the file if needed.  The symbols don't appear on the site, but if you paste it into vi or notepad, they appear
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> dino82: go ahead and drop it will see if anything works
[03:06] <Aziroshin> Hmm. Seems you cannot verify those kernel packages upon download.
[03:06] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: think you would want to use something you see when listing ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[03:07] <dino82> Drop the link here?
[03:07] <wafflej0ck> dino82: yu
[03:07] <wafflej0ck> dino82: yup
[03:07] <dino82> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tetrapus/Karkat/37c2e0cfd85461ae581df2215d7a420df7b2a7f1/plugins/games/cah.py
[03:07] <Aziroshin> I just found this script: https://github.com/medigeek/kmp-downloader/blob/master/kmpd.py - I guess if there were any md5 or gpg signatures to verify, it would probably use them.
[03:08] <dino82> the easiest part to see is CAHPREFIX, you get some odd symbols in front of the numbers
[03:08] <rambler2> wafflej0ck, ahh gotcha, steps were reversed in guide lol
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> dino82: yeah see what you're saying seems like some character encoding problem
[03:09] <dino82> yeah that was my first thought
[03:09] <KeithWeisshar> why am i getting a blank screen after grub when booting the live disc in uefi mode?
[03:09] <anony> weres my update manger on lubunto
[03:10] <axisys> how to upgrade desktop?
[03:10] <KeithWeisshar> i'm getting a blank screen after selecting try ubuntu in the grub menu after booting in uefi mode?
[03:10] <ianorlin> annoy it is in the menu systems tools and then software properties
[03:10] <KeithWeisshar> the dvd is still being read but the screen is blank
[03:11] <samthewildone> I'm getting this error with calendar, Unable to connect to 'Calendar': Cannot open calendar: Authentication Required
[03:11] <samthewildone> I signed in with my Google account with the ubuntu accounts manager.
[03:11] <KeithWeisshar> i have a geforce gtx 980 video card
[03:12] <axisys> sudo do-release-upgrade says no new release
[03:12] <Bashing-om> KeithWeisshar: soon as bios spalsh screen clears, depress any key -> language screen, escape key to acceot default -> boot options screen ->F6 key -> nomodeset; enter to continue the boot process. What results ?
[03:12] <wafflej0ck> dino82: you can edit it with sublimetext pretty easily
[03:12] <rambler2> rambler2, meh, didnt work... tried what is listed and still boots to unity
[03:13] <wafflej0ck> dino82: it's obvious what the bad characters are in there and can just select one then hit ctrl+d to select the next over and over then just delete them all
[03:13] <dino82> i'll try that, thanks
[03:15] <axisys> which file defines any new version or lts only ?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> axisys: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades . ??
[03:15] <rww> @login
[03:15] <user453> !list
[03:16] <axisys> Bashing-om: yep, thats the one! thanks
[03:16] <Bashing-om> axisys: :)
[03:17] <rww> ubottu: upgradeofflts is <reply> To upgrade from an LTS release of Ubuntu to the next (non-LTS) release, run sudoedit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and change the prompt= line to "prompt=normal".
[03:18] <axisys> rww: thanks
[03:18] <axisys> I will have to remember upgradeofflts
[03:18] <axisys> ;-)
[03:18] <KeithWeisshar> i was trying to uefi boot
[03:18] <Bashing-om> rww: upgradeoff or should be upgradeof ?? off/of .
[03:18] <KeithWeisshar> i was trying to boot the 14.10 live dvd in uefi mode
[03:19] <rww> Bashing-om: the off was deliberate
[03:19] <rww> but yeah, the name could be better, couldn't think of an improvement
[03:19] <KeithWeisshar> it boots into grub 2.02 and then when i select the boot option the screen goes blank while it boots the rest of the os
[03:19] <Bashing-om> rww: :) , when you are good, you are good .
[03:20] <KeithWeisshar> the screen goes blank but the monitor stays on
[03:20] <rww> and when I'm bad I try to be amusing
[03:20] <Bashing-om> rww: OK, I am amused LOL .
[03:20] <acerspyro> *slow clap*
[03:20] <axisys> curious to see if this will fix my issue.. cannot bring it back from suspend when undocked
[03:21] <acerspyro> axisys: Happens to a lot of computers
[03:21] <Bashing-om> KeithWeisshar: Does the screen remain black .. ( that is normal for non textual boot, for a shirt time ) .
[03:21] <axisys> acerspyro: was working fine with previous hp
[03:21] <acerspyro> axisys: it was
[03:21] <acerspyro> Depends on the HW
[03:22] <axisys> hp 6730b was, hp probook 650 g1 now
[03:23] <anony> whats the best linux os for a hp mini 110
[03:23] <acerspyro> axisys: I have no problem at all with my Acer Aspire, but with my custom computer, I can't use the network once I get the computer out of sleep
[03:23] <anony> that will work like mint or something
[03:23] <acerspyro> And my older laptop simply shut down instead of going to sleep
[03:24] <acerspyro> anony: Any distro you want
[03:24] <acerspyro> Ubuntu is the heaviest, and it will work
[03:24] <acerspyro> So you have the choice
[03:24] <anony> it wont work though when i plug in usb it just loads a dash line movin up and down
[03:24] <acerspyro> idk
[03:24] <acerspyro> Don't have one
[03:24] <acerspyro> ur doin it wrng
[03:25] <acerspyro> PEBKAC
[03:25] <axisys> acerspyro: PEBKAC?
[03:25] <acerspyro> Problem Exists between Keyboard and Chair
[03:25] <axisys> lol
[03:25] <anony> ok im running lubunto just now can i boot the iso from my computer without putting on usb
[03:25] <axisys> layer 7 error
[03:26] <wafflej0ck> anony: it's easier to use a USB or DVD really
[03:26] <anony> how can i do this on lubunto
[03:27] <wafflej0ck> anony: you can setup grub to boot the ISO but more trouble than it's worth
[03:27] <acerspyro> lubuntu
[03:27] <acerspyro> idk what lubunto is, unknown to my large DB
[03:27] <acerspyro> :)
[03:27] <anony> how do i do it on lubunto
[03:28] <acerspyro> lubuntu
[03:28] <snpresent> here are all tyros
[03:28] <ObrienDave> lubuntU
[03:28] <wafflej0ck> anony: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/ <-- this pretty much works everywhere, don't use lubuntu myself though
[03:28] <acerspyro> lubuntu or gtfo
[03:28] <axisys> wafflej0ck: why not just dd?
[03:28] <ObrienDave> acerspyro, that's a good way to get yourself kicked
[03:28] <wafflej0ck> axisys: need to setup the partition properly and mark it bootable
[03:29] <acerspyro> ObrienDave: ty :D
[03:29] <axisys> wafflej0ck: dd will do it all for ubuntu image
[03:29] <axisys> wafflej0ck: for other iso, not so much
[03:29] <Bashing-om> anony: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD. One way to do it .
[03:29] <droolend-> guys hes clearly talking about lubunto which is way more compatible with the hp mini rather then the standard lubuntu
[03:29] <newtoubuntu> Anybody able to help me with my keybinding issue? Sorry to bother you all again, but I've tried looking for a solution and I can't find any.
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> axisys: ah well only used dd for img files myself on SD cards didn't know it would work for bootable ubuntu isos
[03:30] <axisys> wafflej0ck: yep for ubuntu iso it will work
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: you try out xbindkeys?
[03:30] <newtoubuntu> not yet, I was trying to look for a native solution
[03:31] <newtoubuntu> does xbindkeys have any overhead?
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: not that I experiences
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> experienced*
[03:31] <newtoubuntu> and waking from sleep?
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> not sure I rarely use sleep mode
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> it's on most of the time or it's just off
[03:31] <snpresent> my god
[03:31] <newtoubuntu> since its a service im worried it might crap out randomly
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> think that was okay though
[03:31] <acerspyro> snpresent: since when?
[03:32] <wafflej0ck> newtoubuntu: I just had it in the startup applications in KDE when I was using it
[03:32] <ObrienDave> tyros?
 what?
[03:32] <acerspyro> Oh please
[03:32] <acerspyro> Don't copy and paste my name, type "ace" and press tab
[03:33] <acerspyro> well, acer, since AceLa.n is on here
 idon't get it
[03:33] <axisys> :-)
[03:33] <acerspyro> just start typing "acer" and press tab to complete the name
[03:33] <acerspyro> The way you're doing it means you're quoting me, which I find irritating as it is like you're mimicking me.
 Hi, I am saying that
[03:34] <acerspyro> What you need to use is
[03:34] <acerspyro> acerspyro: Hi
[03:34] <acerspyro> Just press tab to autocomplete a name
[03:38] <snpresent> damn
[03:39] <acerspyro> snpresent: Damn what? Don't you know how to autocomplete?
[03:39] <acerspyro> It's a must
[03:41] <snpresent> acerspyro, thanks
[03:41] <acerspyro> np
[03:43] <bluezone> I'm getting some apt-get errors seems to be all screwed up. Right now i see this http://imgur.com/xE9A3UP
[03:43] <bluezone> notice the red circle and the message under it
[03:44] <lagbox> bluezone, is the update still running ?
[03:44] <bluezone> no
[03:44] <bluezone> it's been like this for awhile now too
[03:45] <lagbox> so you ran the upgrade and that window disappeared ?
[03:45] <bluezone> i never upgraded OS version, i have run updates though. This window appears when i click on the Red Circle in the application bar
[03:46] <bluezone> Updates don't seem to work not the circle is there though
[03:46] <bluezone> now*
[03:47] <bluezone> I hope i'm not confusing you :P
[03:47] <Bashing-om> bluezone: To get additional info as the what the error is, close out update manager, and run terminal commands -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- pastebin the outputs .
[03:48] <lagbox> what does apt-get update say
[03:48] <lagbox> hehe i mean upgrade
[03:49] <acerspyro> I installed the proprietary version of the Pepper flash plugin, but it doesn't work on my laptop with Chromium
[03:49] <acerspyro> it does on my tower, tho
[03:49] <bluezone> Bashing-om, lagbox http://paste.ubuntu.com/8649540/
[03:50] <Bashing-om> bluezone: look'n .
[03:50] <bluezone> it did an upgrade procedure that took 0 bytes?
[03:50] <bluezone> something must be really screwed up haha
[03:51] <acerspyro> bluezone: Added 500 GB and removed 500 GB
[03:51] <rambler2> what the hell is a mount point?
[03:51] <acerspyro> Who cares, it's going to be 0 in the end
[03:51] <rambler2> do i just set it as /
[03:51] <acerspyro> *cough*Won't answer, will go mean*cough*
[03:52] <bluezone> rambler2, it's a point where you want to see the contents of the stuff you mount afaik
[03:52] <OerHeks> trusty lucid precise great sources mix
[03:52] <acerspyro> OerHeks: Wat u sayin' mate?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> bluezone: Look'n good "qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu" -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- .
[03:55] <bluezone> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8649632/
[03:55] <bluezone> WAIT
[03:55] <bluezone> the red dot just vanished
[03:55] <bluezone> haha
[03:56] <bluezone> so what was wrong anyway
[03:56] <Bashing-om> bluezone: Good .. bet that red dot was in relation to ""qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu" ..
[03:56] <bluezone> i see
[03:57] <bluezone> Thanks :)
[03:57] <bluezone> wish my doctors were this good!
[03:58] <Bashing-om> bluezone: Bet ya learned a bit of appreciation for the terminal .. consider using the terminal forthwith from now on to really see what is going on, huh ?
[03:59] <acerspyro> lrn2trmnl
[03:59] <Magentium> Hello Ubuntu users :)
[03:59] <Magentium> Anyone here updated to 14.10 yet?
[03:59] <acerspyro> Magentium: We all have
[03:59] <acerspyro> You're late
[04:00] <snpresent> still LTS
[04:01] <Magentium> I aint late, i aint upgrading. I'm staying on LTS
[04:01] <Magentium> Not a big enough update for me to do a complete re-install
[04:01] <Magentium> I just wanted to find someone who HAS upgrade, who can honestly tell me what is different between 14.04 and 14.10
[04:01] <snpresent> i am boring now
[04:01]  * ObrienDave sticks to LTS ;P
[04:01] <acerspyro> 14,04 LTS
[04:02] <rambler2> ok im testing lubuntu now
[04:02] <rambler2> ubuntu was rather slow for me
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Magentium: So, dual boot .. 14.10 continued stress testing and still with old faithful to fall back on.
[04:02] <rambler2> and cinnamon was broken for ubuntu
[04:02] <snpresent> cinnamon nightly still work
[04:03] <Magentium> Bashing-om, nah, i'm happy with my 14.04. I was just concerned there was something better in 14.10 that compells me to attempt a non LTS Release for once :)
[04:04] <wafflej0ck> Magentium: I don't think so, there are some minor version bumps on things but nothing major from what I've seen
[04:04] <Magentium> wafflej0ck, awesome thanks :)
[04:05] <wafflej0ck> Magentium: I'm using Ubuntu Gnome the new Gnome videos look pretty nice with the extra animations and touch friendly stuff but no touch screen here so not super compelled to upgrade that just for the extra animations
[04:05] <wafflej0ck> Magentium: also haven't upgraded to 14.10 FYI just saying what I've heard
[04:05] <Magentium> Ubuntu Gnome, is that the Gnome 3.14 version? or is it still on 3.12 ?
[04:05] <rambler2> ok linux ppl, tell me why browser in linux have such huge title bars?
[04:06] <acerspyro> Because you
[04:06] <acerspyro> The title bars are small
[04:06] <wafflej0ck> Magentium: 3.9.90 here
[04:06] <jaldhar> hello.  Has anyone experienced hangs recently caused by massive spikes in load.  kern.log shows sometging like "Task blah blocked for 120 seconds
[04:06] <jaldhar> "
[04:06] <wafflej0ck> Magentium: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[04:06] <Magentium> rambler2 - Number of things. Check your DPI Settings, Screen REsolution, etc etc. What browser? can you do a screendump?
[04:06] <jaldhar> I'm on kubuntu 14.04.1
[04:06] <rambler2> wow lubuntu is much snappier than ubuntu
[04:06] <Magentium> wafflej0ck - Ahh you're not using the testing repo. Yeah 3.9 s the stable one.
[04:07] <snpresent> lubuntu on my slow laptop
[04:07] <Magentium> rambler2 of course it is, Lubuntu uses a much more lightweight anf streamlined DE.
[04:07] <wafflej0ck> Magentium: yup, have thought of bumping it up but think I'll just wait still happy with it
[04:07] <Magentium> wafflej0ck yeah dont...you'll get nothing but issues with Extensions, themes etc.
[04:07] <rambler2> Magentium, is there anything faster?
[04:07] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: maybe XFCE or LXQT
[04:08] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: not sure about those but they're all lightweight, also tiling window managers like Awesome or TWM are probably light
[04:08] <wafflej0ck> but different
[04:08] <Magentium> rambler2 yeah follow what wafflej0ck said :)
[04:09] <Magentium> rambler2, or just go with something like Unity or Gnome and disable Animations :)
[04:09] <rambler2> i dont think animations will speed it up that much
[04:09] <bluezone> Bashing-om, yeah
[04:09] <mbff> Hello! I have a old box running ubuntu server and I want to check if the ethernet is 10/100 or 10/100/1000
[04:09] <mbff> any ideas?
[04:10] <mbff> ethernet/lan in motherboard specifically
[04:10] <rambler2> lubuntu so fast, but so ugly lol
[04:10] <axisys> mbff: ethtool eth0 or like
[04:11] <mbff> axisys, thanks. but I can't figure out what the output means. haha
[04:11] <BradTN> wow
[04:12] <BradTN> any network specialists here?
[04:12] <axisys> mbff: have you tried man ethtool ?
[04:13] <Magentium> rambler2 it really depends on what you mean by "fast" because by disabling animations , it WILL load faster. Are you talking about the time it takes for software to load? Time it takes to boot?
[04:15] <Bashing-om> rambler2: "lubuntu so fast, but so ugly lol" but highly configurable, once you learn how .Can be a beautiful work of art .
[04:16] <Magentium> Bashing-om - I'm currently just using Unity, But I'm planning on moving to XFCE and customizing it big time. Unity is nice but i dont use it cos its keyboard shortcuts, which can all be setup in XFCE
[04:17] <Bashing-om> Magentium: Agreed ,, XFCE is my preference .
[04:17] <mike_> hello all
[04:18] <___Mike___> hello all
[04:18] <___Mike___> got a ?
[04:18] <Magentium> Shoot.
[04:18] <dozor> xfce has been a long running favorite of mine too...going to try out lubuntu, as i've never tried lxde before
[04:18] <___Mike___> I think I broke my elementary ...
[04:18] <___Mike___> LOL
[04:19] <___Mike___> I have broken packages and don't know how to remove them
[04:19] <Magentium> run sudo apt-get install -f
[04:19] <Magentium> then run sudo apt-get install autoremove
[04:19] <Magentium> and then a sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[04:19] <Magentium> that SHOULD fix most broken dependancies.
[04:20] <OerHeks> elementary has its own issues
[04:20] <___Mike___> should I answer yes or now to the question "After this operation, 501 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[04:20] <___Mike___> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? "
[04:21] <___Mike___> when i answer yes, it error on a package
[04:21] <___Mike___> *errors
[04:21] <OerHeks> !elementary
[04:22] <___Mike___> i was in there several times, but no one would respond..LOL
[04:23] <Magentium> I run Elementary on my Ultrabook. Its a beautiful OS but the team isnt moving fast enough, By the time the 14.04 (Freya) version is released, we'll be at 15.04.
[04:24] <rambler2> does lubuntu have a software store?
[04:24] <rambler2> it does!
[04:24] <___Mike___> hmmm, i get :: unable to locate package dist-upgrade
[04:25] <___Mike___> E:
[04:25] <___Mike___> not sure where e: is
[04:25] <___Mike___> :-(
[04:26] <Magentium> oh....thats .. not good
[04:26] <Magentium> try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <Magentium> pending you're running Ubuntu
[04:26] <___Mike___> ok
[04:26] <Magentium> wait. ARE You running Ubuntu
[04:26] <Magentium> what OS are you on.
[04:26] <___Mike___> running elementary
[04:26] <___Mike___> luna
[04:27] <Magentium> Ahh okay, that's even more difficult
[04:27] <___Mike___> the elementary channel, i went in a couple times, but no response
[04:27] <___Mike___> should i just wipe and load ubuntu
[04:27] <Magentium> Elementary and Ubuntu have a bunch of packages that are different.
[04:27] <Magentium> If it is a fresh install, sure. It's up to you
[04:27] <Magentium> Luna was always a pain for me, breaking all the time.
[04:27] <___Mike___> it all started because i was trying to install my canon printer
[04:27] <___Mike___> lol
[04:28] <___Mike___> I am a windows guy coming to linux to escape all the bull from windows (viruses, etc.)
[04:28] <Magentium> Welp, welcome to Linux sorry that your first time was crap haha. Re-install with Ubuntu 14.10
[04:28] <rambler2> how can i locate where sofware was installed, i need to drag a plugin
[04:28] <___Mike___> Thanks
[04:28] <___Mike___> I really love the speed
[04:28] <Magentium> open a terminal and type : Whereis <application name>
[04:29] <___Mike___> cool
[04:30] <___Mike___> it errors on a libtiff file or package
[04:30] <___Mike___> i probably am butchering the language becuase I am so used to just installing from executables... :-)
[04:31] <RobinHood2015> I am not hearing any sound in Google Chrome. What's wrong?
[04:31] <BradTN> any networking gods on here?
[04:31] <___Mike___> I think i just need to take some time to learn the terminal and all the under pinnings of how the file structure works in linux
[04:33] <___Mike___> can i just re-install ubuntu 14.10 over/into the same folder and keep all the files i loaded onto the drive?
[04:33] <___Mike___> just basically overwriting elementary?
[04:33] <BradTN> Please any network ubuntu gods please message me lol
[04:34] <Magentium> Mike : That is where setting up a second partition and mounting /home to it is a given. If you didnt do that, start backing up files first.
[04:34] <Magentium> You cant just "Install over the top" like windows (not a feature that we want either)
[04:35] <___Mike___> can i keep my files that are in the /home partition?
[04:35] <Magentium> Did you put /home into a seperate partition?
[04:35] <___Mike___> yep
[04:35] <rambler2> omg the power options are so nice
[04:35] <Magentium> If so, you can simply remove the install partition, and then install to that. If they are on same disk, the Ubuntu Installer should pick up the /home mount trigger, and mount that as home. You may need to go and re-assign permissions though once your back in unless you create a new user account with same user and pw
[04:35] <rambler2> independent brightness dim for idle!
[04:36] <___Mike___> oh, nice....I might just try that
[04:36] <crocket> Does anyone know where to find preseed file for ubuntu 14.04?
[04:36] <crocket> I want to set up xubuntu.
[04:36] <___Mike___> it seems maybe Ubuntu will have more compatability with my stuff
[04:37] <___Mike___> *compatibility
[04:37] <tasman35> looking for help with networking and ccna
[04:38] <Magentium> MIke i recommend backing up though as well, i cant guarantee that it will work and wont be held responsible for lost work :(
[04:38] <ilk__> any help with wireshark here?
[04:38] <rummmur> La hundo vidas la belajn katojn
[04:39] <Magentium> ilk__ depends on the issue
[04:39] <tasman35> cisco ccna help?
[04:40] <rummmur> La knabo havas belan hundon
[04:41] <Magentium> Woop. Lunch time :)
[04:41] <___Mike___> thanks so much for all the help Magentium
[04:42] <Magentium> Your welcome. I'll be back on in 20 minutes, lemme know how it goes ;)
[04:42] <___Mike___> cool, will do
[04:43] <rummmur> La elefanto estas pli granda ol la kuniklo.
[04:46] <dozor> @BradTN what is the issue?
[04:46] <dozor> oop, too late
[04:47] <Loshki> rummmur: what language *is* that? I'm pretty sure you just mentioned "elephant"?
[04:49] <rummmur> Loshki:na na na,Mi pensas pri mi
[04:49] <wafflej0ck> dozor: he's having a problem where his computer is flooding his router and killing the network basically
[04:50] <dozor> awesome
[04:50] <wafflej0ck> dozor: I've been trying to help he's used nethogs to see that there are tons of connections being made but the PID is listed as ?
[04:50] <wafflej0ck> tried asking for him to do netstat -tulnp but other suggestions are welcome
[04:50] <wafflej0ck> keeps getting booted though while he's debugging the issue
[04:50] <rambler2> hey wafflej0ck, thanks again for the help earlier
[04:51] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: ah yeah np
[04:51] <wafflej0ck> rambler2: sorry couldn't get that session thing fixed for ya though that's a bummer, but happier with lubuntu?
[04:51] <rummmur> Li kredas je Dio
[04:52] <Loshki> Well, that explains the elephant. Looks like either esperanto or portuguese.
[04:52] <dozor> maybe setup iptables to only allow out http, https and xchat ports and deny everything else to continue to troubleshoot
[04:53] <rummmur> glaso da biero ,cheers
[04:53] <wafflej0ck> dozor: yeah seems it's all traffic coming from random ports on his computer going to port 80 on some AWS servers
[04:53] <dozor> if the process name can be determined, pstree may help track down where its coming from
[04:53] <wafflej0ck> dozor: think it's been made into a zombie
[04:54] <rummmur> Mi iras trans la straton
[04:54] <wafflej0ck> !pr
[04:54] <wafflej0ck> hmm
[04:55] <wafflej0ck> !pt | rummmur
[04:56] <dozor> @wafflej0ck probably something like that
[04:58] <dozor> @BradTN use iptables to block connections to AWS to try and get your network stable enough to track down the process source
[04:58] <rummmur> ubottu na,Kio estas tio?
[04:59] <crocket> Can anyone give me preseed script for 14.04?
[04:59] <rummmur> wafflej0ck, Kio estas tio? Ne, mi ne volas.
[05:00] <dozor> @BradTN once you are stable, try using pstree -p to figure out what is spawning all the processes that is messing with you
[05:00] <Magentium> crocket - I just googled it First link. Google is your friend.
[05:00] <rummmur> Mi neniam estis tie.
[05:00] <loki_> d
[05:00] <crocket> Magentium, Do you mean https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt ?
[05:00] <crocket> It's for squeeze
[05:00] <crocket> Do you want to squeeze me?
[05:01] <rww> !google
[05:02] <dozor> peace out *buntu'ers
[05:03] <wafflej0ck> later dock9
[05:03] <wafflej0ck> oops gone
[05:05] <Magentium> Crocket - sorry, there are others too. That file isnt a pre-generated file so Googling some sample Configs may help you to generate one :)
[05:06] <rummmur> wafflej0ck, ?
[05:06] <crocket> Magentium, google presents me with too many alternatives.
[05:06] <crocket> I'm confused.
[05:06] <Magentium> What exactly are you attempting to do?
[05:08] <crocket> Magentium, I'm using packer to install xubuntu 14.04 on a virtual machine.
[05:08] <crocket> Zoobuntu
[05:10] <Magentium> Is there a reason why you aren't using an ISO? I found an ubuntu-trust-preseed.seed file on GitHub by Moonwitch, but i dunno if its what you need.
[05:10] <crocket> Magentium, I think that's close to what I need.
[05:10] <crocket> Magentium, I wonder if it's ok to use xubuntu ISO with that preseed script.
[05:11] <Magentium> IMO, i would go with an ISO. It has a standard preseed system built in
[05:11] <ki7mt> +1
[05:11] <Magentium> Possibly, but that preseed script sets up the install the way THAT person wants it setup. Is there a specific reason you need a preseed?
[05:11] <crocket> Magentium, I looked up preseed scripts in an ubuntu server iso, but they are too short.
[05:12] <crocket> Magentium, Isn't preseed the standard way to install ubuntu/debian automatically?
[05:12] <ki7mt> crocket, what do you need to do that is not being done by the Xubuntu ISO ? or are you playing with preseed?
[05:12] <Magentium> ki7mt - My question exactly. What changes need to be made crocket ?
[05:13] <crocket> I need to boot an ubuntu iso and have packer control the installation process.
[05:13] <crocket> Magentium, Without preseed, how would you do it?
[05:13] <crocket> I don't understand your questinos.
[05:13] <crocket> questions
[05:14] <crocket> Preseed is the way to automate ubuntu installation on foreman, cobbler, and packer.
[05:14] <crocket> There is no other way.
[05:14] <Magentium> I would have a look to see if Packer has a walkthrough for it.
[05:14] <rummmur> Kelkaj el ni alvenis malfrue
[05:14] <Magentium> I dont setup via Packer, i manually install my Operating Systems.
[05:14] <Magentium> So i might not be much help. A standard preseed file though could be modified
[05:15] <Magentium> So see if you can find one designed for Xubuntu 14.04, and just go through it making sure it's what you want. Seeing as its a Virtual Machine, if it fails...you just start again :)
[05:16] <ki7mt> crocket, Preseed seems to be the right answer here. You may be able to use package to build a custom image, but  you've still not said what you need to so exactly.
[05:16] <ki7mt> .. use packer .. sri
[05:16] <crocket> I want to automate xubuntu installation.
[05:16] <crocket> packer is driving the process.
[05:17] <rummmur> Loshki, Mi parolas la esperanto!!!!!!!!
[05:19] <crocket> ki7mt, Magentium I found https://github.com/dwursteisen/packer-repo/blob/master/xubuntu.json
[05:19] <rummmur> Mi parolas la esperanton!!!!!!!!
[05:19] <ki7mt> crocket, this is a far more complex topic that just a simple one or two line answer, there .json files, preseed scripts, root_setup scripts, this is an advanced topis that you may want to run through the development channel.
[05:20] <crocket> Where i the dev channel?
[05:20] <crocket> Where is the dev channel?
[05:22] <ki7mt> crocket, You could try in #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-motu #ubuntu-packaging  all those folks deal with this level routinely.
[05:22] <____Mike____\> going to try ubuntu 14.04.1 instead of elementary
[05:22] <____Mike____\> see how this goes
[05:22] <ki7mt> Good choice. ____Mike____\
[05:22] <____Mike____\> my gaming mouse works in ubuntu, it would not work in elementary...LOL
[05:23] <____Mike____\> what the ????
[05:23] <ki7mt> Ok
[05:23] <____Mike____\> I hope I can get my printer to work
[05:23] <rummmur> Tro malmultaj venis
[05:25] <rww> rummmur: English here, please.
[05:27] <____Mike____\> what is faster, ubuntu or elementary
[05:27] <____Mike____\> ???
[05:27] <____Mike____\> I hope Ubuntu is fast
[05:27] <Magentium> Both are about the same, their the same OS, different overlay
[05:27] <____Mike____\> sweeeet
[05:27] <Magentium> Ubuntu is a lot faster though in essence, depending on your hardware
[05:27] <____Mike____\> niiiiccceee
[05:27] <____Mike____\> its old hardware
[05:28] <____Mike____\> q6600 quad core intel
[05:28] <____Mike____\> 4 gigs ram, 650gtx card
[05:28] <voxbox> So I have an issue with audio on my hp laptop (Envy 17). The machine has 2 stereo speakers and a sub (2 in the front of the screen, 2 at the front of the machine and the sub underneath)  I've already looked around for solutions, but they barely work (Only one speaker works at a time, although individually I can get them to all work) any help would be appreciated.
[05:29] <____Mike____\> is it easy to install a printer, its a pretty new canon
[05:29] <____Mike____\> i can get linux drivers from the website
[05:30] <____Mike____\> but after unpacking them I don't know how to initiate the install process... :-)
[05:30] <rummmur> ?
[05:31] <ki7mt> ____Mike____\, there's probably a README or INSTALL file in the package I would think, depending on the type of file you downloaded.
[05:31] <____Mike____\> there is an install file, but it opens in a txt editor
[05:32] <____Mike____\> its a .sh , is that a shell file?
[05:32] <ki7mt> Yes
[05:32] <____Mike____\> do i have to turn it into an excutable?
[05:32] <____Mike____\> *executable with the terminal?
[05:32] <jq-> chmod +x name.sh
[05:32] <____Mike____\> aaaahhhh, ok
[05:32] <____Mike____\> i will learn all this eventually
[05:32] <jq-> Then ./name.sh
[05:33] <____Mike____\> sweet
[05:33] <ki7mt> most likely, yes, post the link of the file you downloaded, I'll have a look at it.
[05:33] <jq-> It's a little weird to get used to, but once you do everything once, it's easy to remember.
[05:33] <____Mike____\> how do I do that?
[05:33] <____Mike____\>  a link to the canon site?
[05:34] <ki7mt> a link to the cannon file you downloaded.
[05:34] <____Mike____\> cool
[05:34] <jq-> Mike, ki7mt is probably right too. Most linux software comes with a readme with install instructions.
[05:34] <jq-> They know everyone isn't a linux pro.
[05:35] <rummmur> rww, Fi, kiel abomene!
[05:35] <rww> rummmur: That isn't English. Try better.
[05:36] <____Mike____\> heres the link: http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100515301.html
[05:38] <ki7mt> ____Mike____\, Yes, all you should need to do is chmod +x ./install.sh ; sudo ./install.sh
[05:38] <ki7mt> It has the prebuilt Debian binaries included
[05:38] <____Mike____\> sweet, now when i am in the terminal do I need to start in the directory that the install file is located in
[05:39] <____Mike____\> or how will the system know what install file I want to initiate
[05:39] <____Mike____\> cool, Ubuntu is done installing, my main system is rebooting
[05:41] <ki7mt> ____Mike____\, Yeah, download the file, extract it, cd to the filder it creates, chmod +x the install file, then run it with sudo
[05:41] <ki7mt> cd to the folder .. .
[05:41] <____Mike____\> nice, that is awesome, thanks so much
[05:41] <____Mike____\> system is almost up, then I am going to grab that file really fast
[05:41] <hateball> ____Mike____\: have you tried just plugging the printer in?
[05:42] <hateball> Chances are it works out of the box as well
[05:42] <rummmur> rww shit,Mi nenien plu iros hodiaŭ
[05:42] <ki7mt> Before installing that file, you should do an update & upgrade first.
[05:42] <rambler2> is there a startup folder where i can launch something on login?
[05:43] <ki7mt> rc.loccal
[05:43] <ki7mt> whoops rc.local
[05:43] <____Mike____\> i have 2 displays and one is not fit to screen, i dont see any option to resize under the settings/displays
[05:43] <____Mike____\> i changed res, but the screen is still off
[05:43] <____Mike____\> hmm
[05:44] <rambler2> ki7mt, for me?
[05:45] <ki7mt> rambler2, To be honest, your probably better off using the StartUp Applications menu,  got to Unity >> start >> select and go from there.
[05:45] <____Mike____\> can i resize a display? if the screen don't fit?
[05:46] <____Mike____\> its a 1080p screen but its not fitting the frame
[05:46] <Magentium> Hey Mike. Press the AUTO button on your monitor.
[05:46] <____Mike____\> its a 40" TV
[05:46] <Magentium> Is it a 1080p monitor, or a 1080p tv screen? Overscan might not be enabled.
[05:46] <Magentium> Overscan not enabled, thats why. What Grpahics Card you have??
[05:46] <____Mike____\> Nvidia gtx 650
[05:47] <____Mike____\> I have 2 40" displays
[05:47] <____Mike____\> one is perfect
[05:47] <rambler2> Kitar|st, im on lubuntu
[05:47] <____Mike____\> other is off
[05:47] <____Mike____\> one is a sharp, one is an LG
[05:47] <____Mike____\> the LG is off
[05:47] <cryptohex> hey guys
[05:48] <rambler2> anyone know how to add a startup app in lubuntu
[05:49] <Magentium> Mike, you need to ensure that your Graphics Card drivers are installed. Then under the Nvidia Control Pane there is an option for "Overscan".
[05:49] <hateball> !nvidia
[05:50] <ki7mt> rambler2, Select "Preferences" > "Default applications for LXSession" ; In the opened window, select the option "Autostart";
[05:50] <____Mike____\> cool
[05:50] <____Mike____\> thats awesome
[05:50] <ki7mt> rambler2, To add things, use the "Add" button.
[05:51] <voxbox> So I have an issue with my audio, and I've already gone through some of the audio troubleshooting.  Does anyone have a good direction to oint me in?
[05:51] <voxbox> *point
[05:51] <wafflej0ck> voxbox: what's the issue and what have you tried?
[05:51] <____Mike____\> cool, installing the nvidia driver from center
[05:52] <rambler2> ki7mt, what do i put though?
[05:52] <rambler2> its just an empty line, i cant navigate to app
[05:53] <wafflej0ck> voxbox: have you install alsa-utils and check things out in alsamixer or using arecord and aplay
[05:53] <ki7mt> rambler2, whatever you want to autostart
[05:53] <voxbox> Ok, so I have an HP Envy 17.  Anyways the system has 2 stero speakers and a subwoofer.  By default the alsa only is able to connect to one of the stereo speakers
[05:53] <Magentium> rambler2 you need to put the link to the binary.
[05:53] <voxbox> Yeah.
[05:53] <voxbox> Basically, I'm trying to get the system to use all the speakers
[05:54] <murlidhar> i have made a startup disk on usb . now what ? how to mount it to upgrade to utopic ?
[05:55] <voxbox> I've tried whats out there on the net in terms of similar scenarios including editing /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf and using the HDAJackRetask tool.
[05:55] <sjoshi> murlidhar: you have ubuntu installed on that USB?
[05:56] <murlidhar> sjoshi: i have made bootable disk on usb with utopic iso downloaded.
[05:56] <voxbox> Through that I've been able to get the system to use each speaker individually, but not all together.
[05:56] <murlidhar> sjoshi: using the start up disk manager
[05:56] <voxbox> Trying them all together just gets me output through the subwoofer.
[05:56] <ki7mt> murlidhar, Im not too sure you can do-release-upgrade a startup dist, You can boot it up, then perform the the upgrade.
[05:56] <sjoshi> murlidhar: whats your goal, what you need to do ?
[05:56] <murlidhar> disk creater *
[05:57] <ki7mt> Or better yet, just create a new boot-disk / USB
[05:57] <murlidhar> can't i upgrade it without restarting it ?
[05:57] <murlidhar> can't i add usb disk  to the repository without the need to reboot the desktop ?
[05:58] <murlidhar> sjoshi: want to upgrade to utopic now
[05:58] <ki7mt> I dont think so, maybe somebody here may know of a way, but typically, you either create from the ISO, or upgrade it from within the boot.
[05:58] <Magentium> confirmed, i know of no other way apart from what ki7mt said
[05:58] <____Mike____\> it sees my printer under the add printer section, should I just add it, or install that driver
[05:59] <sjoshi> murlidhar: if i got your problem coorectly you have downloaded complete ubuntu14.10 iso in the USB and created a bootable
[05:59] <ki7mt> ____Mike____\, I'd try adding first, then test, if that fails, then add the driver.
[05:59] <____Mike____\> cool
[05:59] <sjoshi> murlidhar: now you need to upgrade your desktop OS to ubuntu14.10
[06:00] <Magentium> to be honest, why not just stay with LTS which has better security updates, and for longer? 14.10 isnt worth it.
[06:00] <____Mike____\> holy crap, it worked
[06:00] <wafflej0ck> you can install from iso in grub but probably not worth doing IMO
[06:00] <murlidhar> so i can't add the iso to the repos to upgrade ?
[06:00] <wafflej0ck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[06:00] <wafflej0ck> murlidhar: you can in place upgrade typically but I prefer a clean install myself
[06:00] <ki7mt> +1
[06:01] <sjoshi> wafflej0ck++
[06:01] <murlidhar> sjoshi yes
[06:01] <____Mike____\> thats awesome
[06:01] <____Mike____\> thanks so much guys
[06:01] <____Mike____\> already liking ubuntu better
[06:01] <____Mike____\> its made that whole process a lot easier
[06:01] <____Mike____\> LOl
[06:01] <ki7mt> ____Mike____\, Cool glad it's working for ya.
[06:01] <murlidhar> sjoshi: now i want to mount it and then upgrade
[06:01] <rambler2> why doees firefox show flash, chromium doesnt?
[06:02] <wafflej0ck> murlidhar: why do it this way?
[06:02] <wafflej0ck> murlidhar: why not just do the distro upgrade, also like Magentium said why upgrade to utopic
[06:02] <murlidhar> wafflej0ck: maybe i need to just mount the iso
[06:02] <ki7mt> rambler2, Chromioum is using HTML5
[06:02] <Magentium> At this time, upgrading isn't worth it. Its more of a Service Pack , upgrades to the latest packages (which aren't always the best)
[06:03] <wafflej0ck> ____Mike____\: yeah the driver install busniess has gotten pretty good
[06:03] <sjoshi> murlidhar: what wafflej0ck and Magentium are saying thats the right and easiest way to do it
[06:03] <rambler2> ki7mt, cant get flash to work? some content doesnt work
[06:03] <wafflej0ck> ____Mike____\: the hp drivers are good too for wireless scanning and stuff
[06:03] <murlidhar> alright
[06:03] <____Mike____\> Nice, thanks waffle :-)
[06:03] <simonor> Good morning chaps!
[06:03] <ki7mt> rambler2, See hot too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[06:03] <sjoshi> murlidhar: boot  into your desktop ubuntu and perform a dist-upgrade
[06:03] <____Mike____\> can I change the look of the desktop environment
[06:03] <ki7mt> .. how too ..
[06:03] <Guest21461> hello all. does anyone know how to reveal how to reveal start services that are hidden in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[06:04] <____Mike____\> no too thrilled of this orange thing...LOL
[06:04] <____Mike____\> kinda ugly, no offense...hehe
[06:04] <wafflej0ck> ____Mike____\: yeah are you using Unity?
[06:04] <Guest21461> start up*
[06:04] <wafflej0ck> ____Mike____\: you can use unity-tweak-tool for some things
[06:04] <ki7mt> Guest21461, Which service are you referrign to here?
[06:04] <simonor> Continuing my reports on 14.10 bcm43142 support, it does seem genuinely improved.
[06:04] <____Mike____\> nice, going to grab unity tweak tool
[06:05] <____Mike____\> where can i find out video card driver?
[06:05] <Guest21461> system services at start up, to reveal hidden. the command that worked in 12.04 lts is now producing an error code
[06:05] <simonor> Slight glitches at the handshake stage, but it settles down.
[06:05] <wafflej0ck> ____Mike____\: yeah for the appearance stuff think you probably just want the built in system settings or appearance panel
[06:05] <simonor> Anyway, I'm off to work. Happy motoring everybody!
[06:05] <ki7mt> ____Mike____\,  sudo lshw -C video
[06:07] <ki7mt> ____Mike____\, or for a simplified version , lspci
[06:08] <ki7mt> Guest21461,   and what command is that yoru using?
[06:08] <____Mike____\> yeah, it says gtx 650
[06:08] <____Mike____\> hmmm
[06:09] <Guest21461> * Show Hidden Startup Apps:
[06:09] <Guest21461> sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g­" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[06:09] <____Mike____\> other screen is still to big for screen
[06:09] <Magentium> Mike, did you check the OverScan settings?
[06:11] <ki7mt> Guest21461, I just tested it, it's working on 14.04.1
[06:11] <Guest21461> it used to show hidden start up apps to make some changes (like turning off bluetooth permanently at start up)
[06:12] <ki7mt> Guest21461, I hd like 3 before, now there's like 23 apps in the AutoStart Application menu.
[06:13] <Guest21461> hrrrrmmmm its not working for me
[06:13] <____Mike____\> is there a way to resize the desktop to fit tv?
[06:14] <Guest21461> receiving this error sed: -e expression #1, char 35: unknown option to `s'
[06:14] <ki7mt> I suppose you could maually look at the files in /etc/xdg/autostart after the sed command and see if it's changing the options from true to false.
[06:14] <Magentium> Mike - As i've said a few times, OverScan is the technology that "Stretches" the desktop to fit the TV> YOu need to get the NVIDIA Control Panel using the NVIDIA Drivers from their SITE (not the repo's) and install them. Then you need to check the OverSCan Settings
[06:15] <Guest21461> i am not sure how to do that
[06:15] <ki7mt> Guest21461, That's a syntax error then, make sure your  copy & pasting it exactly.
[06:15] <Guest21461> thanks for your help though i appreciate it
[06:16] <____Mike____\> cool, thanks
[06:18] <meghan1989> hello?
[06:19] <Kaco> morning
[06:19] <meghan1989> is this for help?
[06:19] <Ben64> meghan1989: ubuntu help, yes
[06:20] <celroc> meghan1989: It is.  Please feel free to ask your question :-)
[06:20] <meghan1989> my laptop is so bright when i turn it on, i have to turn down the brightness every time
[06:20] <meghan1989> can i set it to always be a certain bright?
[06:21] <Guest21461> i still cannot get it. it worked in ubuntu 12.04 i have always used this same tutorial something must be off. what command are you using <ki7mt>
[06:23] <ki7mt> Guest21461, the command you posted here in the channel:  sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g­" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[06:23] <Guest21461> yeah still no good im just copying and pasting that exact line
[06:24] <ki7mt> Guest21461, I see the problem, make sure there is no Space after ...  /g"  ... it jsut failed on my when copying it from the channel
[06:25] <ki7mt> Guest21461, This works:  sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[06:26] <ki7mt> Guest21461, Just for you on information. The sed command is looking at each file located in /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop  .. and changing one thing, NoDisplay=true to NoDisplay=false .. that's all it's doing.
[06:28] <ki7mt> Guest21461, So afectively, you could edit each .desktop file located in /etc/xdg/autostart/*  and set those manually if you wanted too. But you need to use sudo in order to save the edits.
[06:28] <Guest21461> sorry ki7mt> was afk for a sec lemme give it a shot
 success!!
 thank you so much
[06:30] <ki7mt> Guest21461, Your welcome, glad it's working.
[06:31] <rambler2> how do i add text to a file that is protected and wont give me permission?
[06:31] <Ben64> sudo
 very nice. so how did you discover my error again?
[06:32] <rambler2> i did gksudo edit *path*, it just returns and empty line
[06:32] <rambler2> it took command but back at default path
[06:32] <Ben64> sudo for non-gui applications
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> meghan1989: hi
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> meghan1989: for ubuntu help yes
[06:32] <jayaura> rambler2, "sudo chown your_user_name file_name" and then that file is all yours. you dont need to use sudo later on, because u own it now
[06:32] <rambler2> Ben64, im in terminal
[06:32] <ki7mt> Guest21461, Lots of practice with SED and AWK :-)  no space after the closing the /g for inline replacements.
[06:33] <Ben64> rambler2: right, but gksudo is for graphical applications
[06:33] <somsip> jayaura: no. Bad idea. Files have permissions for a reason. Understand that before just changing permissions arbitrarily
[06:33] <Guest21461> awesome  =]
[06:33] <Ben64> rambler2: also, i doubt you want to use "edit"
[06:33] <rambler2> Ben64, oh.. i just tried sudo gedit *path* says "sudo:gedit:command not found"
[06:33] <jayaura> somsip, yup thats right. rambler2 : keep an eye on what file you are editing
[06:34] <rambler2> i guess i need to grab gedit from sc?
[06:34] <Ben64> rambler2: are you serious? gksudo for graphics, sudo for non graphics. gedit is graphics
[06:34] <jayaura> rambler2, yeah, or sudo apt-get install gedit
[06:34] <rambler2> i just got linux today, dont have to be a dick
[06:34] <Ben64> rambler2: this is the 3rd time i've told you this
[06:35] <rambler2> oh ok, mr delusional
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> rambler2: plz stay polite when ppl help you
[06:35] <Ben64> i can see all three times on my screen right now. go try sudo nano and fix your attitude while you're at it
[06:36] <rambler2> he thinks i ran gksudo a second time
[06:36] <rambler2> he misread what i said
[06:36] <Ben64> i really did not
[06:36] <rambler2> the command failed because i didnt have gedit installed
[06:36] <rambler2> jay fixed me up thansk though
[06:36] <Ben64> right, but you also used sudo for gedit, which is not good in the first place
[06:43] <yoshi314> hi all, i'd like to report a bug but i cannot figure out how to do it from launchpad. and i am not running ubuntu. how do i do that?
[06:43] <rambler2> omg it worked!
[06:43] <rambler2> woohoo
[06:44] <ki7mt> yoshi314, Lots of ways, but probably best to ask in #launchpad
[06:45] <yoshi314> i figured out that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect  takes me to bug report page instead of bouncing me away to the wiki all the time
[06:45] <yoshi314> i hope that's good enough
[06:47] <Jeroen|BB> good <time of day>. I am upgrading my 12.04 to 14.04 using do-release-upgrade. Unfortunately i have to do it over ssh and my connection got interrupted. I see now a dpkg process which is probably waiting for input. Can i just kill it and continue using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:47] <ki7mt> yoshi314, Yes, that should be, I had assumed you were already there and it wasn't allowing you to create the bug itself, sri.
[06:48] <_blaze_> hmmm
[06:48] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, what was interupted, your SSH session or the actual Upgrade itself ?
[06:48] <Jeroen|BB> my ssh
[06:49] <Jeroen|BB> i don't think it's still running because it's causing no load whatsoever now for like 10 minutes
[06:49] <Jeroen|BB> i think it's stuck on asking me if i want to merge a config file because it had already done so for 2 other files
[06:50] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, To be honest, I dont think there is a way to status where the upgrade is at .. it would be waiting for a dialog input or something, so your rolling the dice really.
[06:50] <Jeroen|BB> yeah so i guess my best bet is just kill the dpkg process and run apt-get dist-upgrade from this point on?
[06:51] <yoshi314> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux/+bug/1385069  if anyone has issues with netbooting installer, i just posted this
[06:51] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, If you kill it, and it wont let you go the release -upgrade, you'll have no choice but to do a dist-upgrade.
[06:52] <Jeroen|BB> yeah it won't because i think the release upgrade acts on what is in /etc/apt/sources.list and that (of course) is set to 14.04 now
[06:52] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, Yeah, I would expect so ... well ... only one way to find out really :-)
[06:52] <Jeroen|BB> yolo \o
[06:54] <Jeroen|BB> yeah i can just continue using dpkg --configure -a it seems
[06:54] <Jeroen|BB> and it was waiting with a dialog :/
[06:54] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, I was jsut posting this: sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:55] <ki7mt> You may want to clean, autoclean first.
[06:55] <Jeroen|BB> doesn't clean just delete .deb files in /var/apt/cache?
[06:56] <ki7mt> clean and autoclean .. yeah, deletes cache files, which could be corrupt
[06:57] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, Clean:  clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/.
[06:57] <Jeroen|BB> yeah
[06:57] <Jeroen|BB> well i guess i can do it to be safe
[06:57] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, Autoclean:  Like clean, autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. The difference is that it only removes package files that can no longer be downloaded, and are largely useless.
[06:57] <Jeroen|BB> but since it downloads everything on forehand and i was already beyond that process it should not be necessary
[06:58] <ki7mt> Jeroen|BB, Was jsut in case.
[06:58] <ki7mt> .. just
[06:59] <Jeroen|BB> thanks :)
[06:59] <Jeroen|BB> i appreciate the help
[07:00] <_breakdown> The mysqld.sock file is missing in /var/run/mysqld .
[07:00] <Xheartt> hi guys
[07:00] <_breakdown> I tried reinstalling but again its misssing .
[07:01] <Xheartt> how can i revert to 12.04.5 LTS from 14.04 LTS? with 14.04 LTS my pc is tooooo slow
[07:03] <ki7mt> Xheartt, While theoretically possible, the odds for success are "very slim" for a a regression.
[07:03] <Xheartt> at this moment the PC is almost unresponssive
[07:03] <ki7mt> Xheartt, Honestly, you better off backing up adn re-installing 12.04.5
[07:04] <Xheartt> where can i find the SO 12.04?
[07:04] <Xheartt> OS
[07:05] <ki7mt> The ISO ?
[07:05] <Xheartt> yes
[07:05] <Xheartt> to download
[07:05] <ki7mt> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.5/release/
[07:05] <Xheartt> do i have to create the disk again?
[07:06] <Xheartt> my pc is a 32bit
[07:07] <alonz> do U know any free DynDNS ?
[07:07] <ki7mt> If you have an older version of 12.04 that will work, then do update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[07:08] <sec> alonz: afraid.org
[07:08] <alonz> thank you sec
[07:08] <ki7mt> alonz, there's ods of them, how reliable they are / safe is another story.
[07:08] <ki7mt> there's loads .. ..
[07:10] <alonz> I think security is well if I configure my router good, open just a few ports and thats all, isn it?
[07:12] <ki7mt> alonz, Thats your call, was just putting it out there  .. food for thought ..
[07:13] <ju> Hey
[07:14] <phasip> Is there a good music player that lets me have my phone music (Android) and computer music synced so that if I delete one song on any device it is removed on both? Or if I add a song on any it is added on both?
[07:16] <yoshi314> phasip: maybe amarok/exaile can do that
[07:20] <ki7mt> phasip, This seems to work also: http://askubuntu.com/questions/472483/how-do-i-sync-music-to-my-android-with-clementine
[07:20] <ki7mt> I've not used it personally though, as I don't have an Android.
[07:21] <phasip> ki7mt: I tried that, and clementine seems to be buggy for me =/
[07:23] <phasip> yoshi314: I'll checkout exaile, amarok seems to have had it's last release in aug 2013
[07:24] <ki7mt> phasip, I have Syncness bookmarked too, but not sure that project is alive and kicking.
[07:25] <ki7mt> _blaze_, In channel plz .. no sorry, I dont know allot about the whole music sync thing, just what I had bookmarked previously.
[07:26] <somsip> ki7mt: BittorrentSync may well be a straightforward replacement for syncness, FWIW
[07:27] <phasip> Bah, does everybody just go with some custom rsync udev rule?
[07:27] <ki7mt> I do
 ok thank you
[07:28] <__breakdown__> mysqld.sock is missing from /var/run/mysqld directory. I tried reinstalling but it is still missing.
[07:29] <ki7mt> phasip, Upi can do a simply 1 minute cron just as easy, cp -uR .. <A> .. <B> .. done.
[07:30] <phasip> ki7mt: maybe that's what I should do =/
[07:30] <somsip> __breakdown__: check your mysql error logs in /var/log/mysqld
[07:31] <__breakdown__> somsip, : there is no such directory
[07:32] <somsip> __breakdown__: by bad - /var/log/mysql/error.log
[07:33] <__breakdown__> somsip, : these are just log files , what do you want me to do with them?
[07:34] <ki7mt> more than likely, the .cnf file has an error ; the .var.run./mysqld dir is not present ; or the permissions are somehow set incorrectly.
[07:34] <somsip> __breakdown__: Read them and look for errors that explain what might be going on. Look, if you're being this vague it will be very difficult to keep enough patience to help you.
[07:38] <rambler2> how can i find the path of an app to link it in autostartup?
[07:38] <somsip> rambler2: whereis {app} or locate {app}
[07:38] <ki7mt> Check this: /etc/mysql/my.cnf make sure it says: socket  = /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock  .. if not ( sudo mkdir -p /var/run/mysqld && sudo service mysql restart )
[07:38] <rambler2> SomeDamnBody, thanks
[07:38] <somsip> rambler2: close ;-)
[07:39] <SomeDamnBody> rambler2, ? what?
[07:39] <SomeDamnBody> oh lol
[07:39] <rambler2> oops sry
[07:39] <rambler2> you can have a thank you too though
[07:39] <rambler2> theyre free!
[07:40] <rambler2> SomeDamnBody, this returned a lot of stuff, what  type of extension should i be looking for to launch the app?
[07:40] <SomeDamnBody> :)
[07:40] <rambler2> omg lol
[07:40] <somsip> rambler2: whereis gives less info. Linux does not use extensions as such. What app are you looking for?
[07:40] <rambler2> somsip,
[07:40] <rambler2> keepass, password manager
[07:40] <rambler2> i see an exe
[07:41] <s396349> djisj
[07:41] <ki7mt> rambler2, just curious, why are you wanting to use KeePass
[07:41] <somsip> rambler2: you see an exe? I'd be worried if I saw one of those. I'd have guessed /usr/bin/keepass myself
[07:41] <rambler2> SomeDamnBody, might be because its a alongside install?
[07:42] <rambler2> ki7mt, open source and i have a large db
[07:42] <rambler2> kill me SomeDamnBody
[07:42] <Kartagis> we have got a VPS running Ubuntu Server, and mysql doesn't start on boot even though upstart links exist. how come?
[07:42] <rambler2> somsip, shared install with win7?
[07:43] <somsip> rambler2: unlikely you will use the exe in autostartup though. If you 'keep<tab>' and it appears, it should be in $PATH somewhere
[07:43] <rambler2> keepass@.postrm ?
[07:43] <somsip> rambler2: I'd still guess /usr/bin/keepass
[07:43] <ki7mt> No, that's a debhelper script.
[07:44] <ki7mt> In trusty the binary is: /usr/bin/keepass2
[07:45] <rambler2> SomeDamnBody, you guessed correctly, thank you!
[07:46] <reneware> Hi
[07:46] <ki7mt> Hi
[07:46] <reneware> ciao
[07:46] <crocket> "d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server build-essential debconf-utils" was ignored in preseed file when I installed xubuntu. Why?
[07:46] <reneware> cerco donna
[07:46] <crocket> Help!!!
[07:46] <reneware> 1m 9999cm
[07:46] <reneware> urgente
[07:47] <reneware> I'm a girl
[07:47] <somsip> !ot | reneware
[07:47] <reneware> ihiihihih
[07:47] <reneware> Sorry
[07:47] <reneware> This is a chat ?
[07:47] <somsip> reneware: no - it's for support questions
[07:47] <reneware> Ah ok, sorry
[07:48] <crocket> reneware, We don't support your mental needs.
[07:48] <reneware> you have skype ?
[07:48] <reneware> My number is 349232842
[07:48] <reneware> Ciao Simonas
[07:48] <auscompgeek> Hey guys, what's it take to get a framebuffer working with nvidia drivers?
[07:49] <ki7mt> auscompgeek, Nothing much, just recompiling the kernel :-)
[07:50] <auscompgeek> ki7mt: ... :|
[07:51] <ki7mt> More specifically:  in Kernel Config: Graphics support ---> Frame buffer Devices ---> <*> Support for frame buffer devices ---> < >   nVidia Framebuffer Support .. .. ..
[07:52] <reneware> dll of  league of legends ? pls i'm in promo plss help meeeee
[07:52] <ki7mt> You better better behave, or the ops gonna bust you ..
[07:53] <rambler2> whatcha gona do when they come for?
[07:53] <sgen> Is it possible to ssh into a different machine, as a different user with only an ssh key? For example ssh from sgen@local to git@remote ?
[07:54] <ki7mt> Yes
[07:55] <ki7mt> sgen, Here's a basic overview, it's kinda dated, but works: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[07:57] <sgen> ki7mt: thanks Ill try it out
[07:59] <ki7mt> sgen, Here's alont from DO: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys--2  .. then the Ubuntu official pages:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[08:07] <sgen> ki7mt: I have ssh working fine, its just the user a / machine A  to user b / machine B issue
[08:07] <sgen> a / A to a /B is fine
[08:08] <ki7mt> sgen, so you want to change $USER on machine <A> before SSH to <B> ?
[08:09] <gshmu> https://dpaste.de/VXQe  I run this shell by double-click, always: Enter passphrase for key SSH
[08:09] <sgen> ki7mt: I want to log into user a on machine A (my local box) and then log into user b on machine B (my remote)
[08:10] <gshmu> some day ago, it didn't need the passphrase for key SSH
[08:11] <sgen> Im trying out the links now
[08:12] <quazimodo> Flannel: ok so this upgrade process... what a fun time.
[08:12] <ki7mt> sgen, I'm not seeing a problem .. just:    ssh <user-name>@ip-address    to SSH to <B> .. from <A>   should do what you want
[08:13] <quazimodo> Flannel: i'm chopping through it slowly. I wish ubuntu/xubuntu just ran a rolling stable branch with no version :/
[08:14] <ki7mt> That would not be Ubuntu then, it would be more like Gentoo :-)
[08:14] <dL> hi there
[08:14] <__breakdown__> sosmip : the "mysql.host"  file does not exist.
[08:14] <sgen> ki7mt: the key doesnt work
[08:14] <sgen> It still asks me for the password
[08:16] <__breakdown__> somsip : the "mysql.host"  file does not exist. It says problem can be removed by using mysql_upgrade , but the mysql server should be running which again is not running.
[08:17] <HarmtH> sgen: what are you asked for? the passphrase of the key or the password of the remote user?
[08:17] <ki7mt> sgen, Well, you've not done something correctly then, as 10's of thousands of people use that or similar SSH Key method every day.
[08:17] <sgen> HarmtH: the password of the remote user
[08:17] <sgen> I dont know what that is
[08:18] <HarmtH> sgen: and you have a key?
[08:18] <HarmtH> on your local system?
[08:18] <sgen> ssh-keygen -t rsa; cat id_rsa | ssh a@A 'cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys'
[08:18] <somsip> __breakdown__: you got that from the error log? Can you paste the section of the log in paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:18] <HarmtH> you need to copy your public key
[08:18] <HarmtH> not your private
[08:18] <HarmtH> also: use ssh-copy-id to copy the key
[08:18] <Kartagis> we have got a VPS running Ubuntu Server, and mysql doesn't start on boot even though upstart links exist. how come?
[08:19] <sgen> thats a typo
[08:19] <Guest56764> I just updated to 14.10 from 14.04 and my display (old ATI X1600) does some weird stuff like if the refresh rate wasn't sync. When I switch from one resolution to another using xrand -s sometimes the problem disapears
[08:19] <sgen> I did copy the pub key
[08:19] <sgen> id_rsa.pub
[08:19] <__breakdown__> 141024 11:59:59 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist
[08:19] <sgen> I fell back on cat, ssh and pipes beccause ssh-copy-id wasnt working
[08:19] <diaL> I just updated to 14.10 from 14.04 and my display (old ATI X1600) does some weird stuff like if the refresh rate wasn't sync. When I switch from one resolution to another using xrand -s sometimes the problem disapears
[08:20] <__breakdown__> somsip, : 141024 11:59:59 [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist
[08:20] <HarmtH> sgen: is the .ssh directory / .authorized_keys file only user-readable?
[08:20] <diaL> how can I troubleshoot this?
[08:20] <__breakdown__> somsip, : 141024 12:10:31 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it.
[08:21] <__breakdown__> somsip, : rest all error are related to the same thing.
[08:21] <somsip> __breakdown__: looks like the whole mysql admin table is missing. Does 'sudo mysql_upgrade' fix it?
[08:21] <gshmu> How to change the usb driver name?
[08:21] <sgen> HarmtH: let me check
[08:22] <__breakdown__> somsip, : I checked the man page and it says it needs a running mysql server to do that. so its not working.
[08:23] <somsip> __breakdown__: is the DB empty? Can you drop everything and start again?
[08:23] <sgen> HarmtH: what should the permissions be? 400 / 400 ?
[08:23] <lmatteis> hi
[08:23] <lmatteis> i just installed ubuntu
[08:23] <lmatteis> is it normal that dragging of windows is not very responsive? as in, the mouse lags a bit compared to the movement of the window. it stays behind
[08:24] <__breakdown__> somsip, :  i will try to remove everything and reinstall it.
[08:24] <ki7mt> sgen, the directory to 700, public key 644, private key 600
[08:24] <__breakdown__> somsip, : Yeah the DB is empty
[08:24] <somsip> __breakdown__: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server && sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mysql && sudo rm -rf /etc/mysql (check all of those paths before running this), then reinstall mysql-server
[08:25] <HarmtH> sgen: sgen i have 700 for .ssh directory and 600 for .authorized_keys and id_rsa
[08:26] <ki7mt> You may also way to ensure your home directory is not writable by others, use at your own risk here: chmod g-w,o-w ~
[08:26] <ObrienDave> lmatteis, a little lag could be considered normal. how much do you mean?
[08:26] <ki7mt> may also want too ..
[08:26] <lmatteis> ObrienDave: if i move a window around, the mouse stays behind about 1 cm from the window
[08:26] <sgen> Alright it was a permissions issue
[08:27] <sgen> thanks guys!
[08:27] <sgen> HarmtH, ki7mt: thanks!
[08:27] <lmatteis> ObrienDave: on windows/osx the window stays exactly behind the cursor
[08:27] <HarmtH> sgen: you're welcome :)
[08:27] <azizLIGHT> can i make mouse wheel scroll the launcher up/down please?
[08:28] <ObrienDave> lmatteis, how new are you to Linux in general?
[08:28] <ki7mt> sgen, You may also want to set:  chmod 644 ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[08:29] <lmatteis> ObrienDave: UI very new. to system not new at all
[08:29] <sgen> ki7mt: done, thanks!
[08:30] <ObrienDave> lmatteis, you might try updating video drivers or going to a lighter DE like XFCE
[08:30] <lmatteis> ObrienDave: ok
[08:33] <azizLIGHT> help how can i scroll the unity launcher up/down with the mousewheel BUT WITHOUT PRESSING ALT
[08:34] <lmatteis> ObrienDave: it seems like they're already at their latest version
[08:35] <ObrienDave> lmatteis, general specs on your system, please?
[08:36] <lmatteis> ObrienDave: nvidia, but i get Direct rendering: no, when i type glxinfo |grep render
[08:36] <lmatteis> so perhaps it's that
[08:39] <bzn> hi, I have a question/problem regarding sudoers. I got "lecture = always", but when i change it to "lecture = once" it changes back to "always". Can someone give me a hint to "who" is doing it?
[08:43] <ki7mt> bzn, It's the sudoers security policty doing that, you can check man sudoers then scroll down to lectures for more info.
[08:50] <xar-> it's jesus doing it.
[08:52] <bzn> got it, thank you ki7mt
[08:59] <Xinos> Welkum, how to programm a bot on a chat?
[09:00] <ObrienDave> !ubottu
[09:00] <rambler2> guys, can i upgrade my laptop to an SSD? (2.5” SATA 500G 5400rpm currently)
[09:01] <ObrienDave> rambler2, yes, you can
[09:02] <rambler2> ObrienDave, anything specific i should watch out for, or are they all universal?
[09:02] <monkwitdafunk> sata3 bus
[09:03] <Xinos> !ubottu
[09:03] <ObrienDave> rambler2, only thing i can think of is having the proper interface. it's just another type of drive
[09:07] <ObrienDave> rambler2, meaning if your system supports a SATA 6Gb/s and you put a 3 Gb/s drive on, that would lower your performance.
[09:07] <ObrienDave> you can only go as fast as your system allows
[09:08] <rambler2> anything would be better than 5400 rpm lol
[09:08] <ObrienDave> well, unless it's a 3600 rpm ;P
[09:08] <rambler2> LOL
[09:09] <rambler2> well if i got 6mbps and my system can only support 3, it would still work, right? just be at the slower speeds
[09:09] <rambler2> i think sata is backwards compat
[09:09] <ObrienDave> yes, it is
[09:09] <rambler2> i think the only thing is the physical size
[09:10] <ObrienDave> that is also a concern. most SSDs are 2.5" form factor. the thickness could be an issue
[09:11] <rambler2> think im just going to order this 1 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211718
[09:11] <ObrienDave> if it's the same size as your current drive, it will work
[09:12] <rambler2> how large is an average linux install? like 10gb?
[09:12] <quazimodo> Flannel: Done. Some broken packages were encountered. And i think i have a bunch of directories that werent deleted because they weren't empty. Now i have to scrape the logs, list those dirs and somehow inspect/remove them
[09:12] <aman121> can i make a boot image from filesystems.squashfs files?
[09:13] <ObrienDave> rambler2, most 'buntus are 4 to 8 GB fresh. Ubuntu Studio is closer to 12 GB
[09:14] <rambler2> shoot, i can prob get away with a 32gb drive then
[09:14] <ObrienDave> rambler2, not really sure on those numbers
[09:15] <ObrienDave> rambler2, does your system  have 2 drive bays?
[09:15] <rambler2> only 1
[09:16] <aman121> i only have 950mb .squashfs files and i am unable to install ubuntu from these files,please help.
[09:16] <rambler2> unless i rip out the media drive and get an adapter
[09:16] <ObrienDave> ah, then you might want to get a slightly larger drive
[09:16] <aman121> what should i do?
[09:17] <ObrienDave> aman121, what are you trying to install? where and how?
[09:19] <aman121> ObrienDave:i want to install ubuntu,and i recently got ubuntu, which cantains mostly .squashfs files.
[09:19] <aman121> the latest ubuntu 14.04
[09:19] <edition> Is there a graphics driver for AMD A6 Vision?
[09:20] <aman121> which i got...
[09:20] <ObrienDave> aman121, did you D/L an ISO file?
[09:21] <aman121> ObrienDave:no,i got these ubuntu files from one of the magzine.
[09:22] <ObrienDave> aman121, i strongly suggest getting an ISO file from the official Ubuntu site
[09:23] <aman121> ObrienDave:ok...
[09:23] <amagee> Any idea what would make my TP-link TL-WN822N USB wifi adapter be incredibly slow and unreliable under linux? the same adapter connects to the same network and works fine under windows. I've read up some stuff about disabling 11n but that doesn't seem to help.
[09:23] <aman121> ObrienDave:can we not create .iso files from these .squashfs files?
[09:23] <ObrienDave> aman121, not recommended
[09:23] <ObrienDave> http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[09:24] <amagee> or i didn't do it right
[09:24] <mkumar> aman121: a cd/dvd with magazine?
[09:24] <aman121> mkumar:yup,OpenSource For u,May 2014 edition
[09:25] <edition> ok.
[09:25] <ObrienDave> aman121, is it a bootable disk?
[09:25] <aman121> mkumar:do you facing the same problem?
[09:26] <mkumar> aman121:no,i'm not facing any problem
[09:27] <aman121> ObrienDave:that is the problem,they said that given DVD is bootable,but that's not look like a boot file system...
[09:27] <amagee> like, even accessing the admin panel on the router is painfully slow
[09:27] <aman121> mkumar:did you got that edition?
[09:27] <ObrienDave> aman121, it should be. is it a DVD? do you have a DVD reader?
[09:28] <brotherBox> Hi. Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 14.10 my monitor causes my eye strain. Is there anyone else encountering this problem?
[09:28] <aman121> ObrienDave:yes..and i tried it many times..but it didn't boot..
[09:28] <brotherBox> Or rather it causes me eye strain
[09:28] <mkumar> aman121: set your bios to boot from dvd drive first and try booting from the dvd
[09:29] <aman121> mkumar:i did that.but no progress...i am going to give the files i mostly have seen that dvd.
[09:29] <ObrienDave> aman121, ok, i suggest D/Ling from the site i sent you using torrent, and burning the ISO to a new DVD or using unetbootin to make a bootable USB stick
[09:31] <SanderJP> hi can I ask a ubuntu 14.04 question here?
[09:31] <ObrienDave> SanderJP, yes, of course
[09:31] <SanderJP> nice :)
[09:32] <SanderJP> I get a 403 forbidden error when I try to wget the Gitlab package
[09:32] <mkumar> aman121: follow the instructions given by ObrienDave then
[09:32] <SanderJP> the ubuntu is installed on a virtualbox
[09:32] <ObrienDave> aman121, are you SURE you can boot from DVD?
[09:32] <SanderJP> in another box I can wget that package fine
[09:33] <ObrienDave> !info Gitlab
[09:33] <SanderJP> :/
[09:33] <ObrienDave> !info gitlab
[09:33] <LTS14N00b> Hi all, I'm running 14.04 and no longer have the ability to have multiple desktops to switch between. I am currently running the Cairo dock which at least shows the "Show Desktop" and the "Desktop" icone, but when I click "+ Add Workspace" nothing happens.
[09:34] <aman121> ObrienDave:the files i got are as follows 1)pressed (folder),2)filesystem.manifest 3)filesystem.manifest-remove 4)filesystem.size,5)filesystem.squashfs 6)i386.ubuntu.cfg 7)initrd.lz and some splash files...that all.
[09:35] <ObrienDave> aman121, ok, sec please
[09:35] <venkat_330> I have hard of 320 gb size which supports advance format.
[09:35] <venkat_330> so what are steps and procedure i need follow to make it function with 4k mode.
[09:35] <venkat_330> whenever i partion with gparted i get errors like "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary."
[09:35] <aman121> ObrienDave:take your time....
[09:36] <ObrienDave> venkat_330, there is a setting in gparted for that.
[09:37] <ObrienDave> aman121, ok, that does NOT look like a proper ISO file to me, one sec, please
[09:37] <venkat_330> ObrienDave: Can you guide me on that??
[09:37] <venkat_330> ObrienDave: I was never able to locate that
[09:37] <aman121> ObrienDave:that what i said...
[09:38] <snadge> when i go to download ubuntu desktop from the ubuntu website it links to 14.04 .. utopic release is low key ?
[09:39] <ObrienDave> aman121, look at this http://i.imgur.com/XfPelYi.png
[09:39] <ObrienDave> that's the ISO for Ubuntu I386
[09:40] <ObrienDave> venkat_330, firing up gparted, sec
[09:41] <aman121> ObrienDave:the list of files i showed to you,i found they are present in folder named "casper"...
[09:42] <ObrienDave> aman121, ok, does the root level look like what i showed you?
[09:43] <patata> d
[09:43] <aman121> ObrienDave:i don't savvy "root level"???
[09:43] <patata> hola?
[09:43] <venkat_330> ObrienDave: I am trying to create partition of this sort:
[09:43] <venkat_330> part1:	256 MB
[09:43] <venkat_330> part2: 	2 GB
[09:43] <venkat_330> part3:	20 GB
[09:43] <venkat_330> eXTENDED---
[09:43] <venkat_330> PART4:	50GB
[09:43] <venkat_330> part5:	 Rmaining
[09:43] <unopaste> venkat_330 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:44] <ObrienDave> aman121, ROOT = very top level. above "casper"
[09:45] <emre_> join #tor
[09:45] <aman121> ObrienDave:no such contents found in the so called boot image of mine..
[09:46] <ObrienDave> venkat_330, when you create the partitions, look for drop down showing boundry MiB
[09:46] <SanderJP> Anyone else experienced a wget 403 trying to download a package from amazonaws ?
[09:46] <mkumar_> aman121: do you mean your dvd contains only one folder named casper??
[09:46] <ObrienDave> aman121, can you imgur a screenshot of your disks top level directory?
[09:47] <ObrienDave> aman121, your DVD root driectory should look close to mine
[09:48] <legend> 'm’ key on my keyboard is not working.. anyway i can map it to “,” key ??
[09:48] <aman121> mkumar:no!!! the contents of casper folder is the complete boot.
[09:48] <aman121> obrienDave:wait,i going to post that over here...
[09:50] <ObrienDave> aman121, there is a LOT more to the install ISO than just the casper folder
[09:51]  * ObrienDave will be back in 5 minutes
[09:54] <ObrienDave> ok 3 minutes ;P
[09:56] <SanderJP> @ObrienDave can my wget issue be name servers? When I ping from my windows machine I get a different IP than wget resolves it to
[09:56] <ObrienDave> SanderJP, could be. i know very little about wget. sorry
[09:56] <SanderJP> ok np :)
[09:57] <aman121> ObrienDave:wait a minute...
[09:57] <ObrienDave> k
[09:58] <RahulAN> Hii all
[09:58] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:59] <ObrienDave> RahulAN, Greetings & Welcome
[10:01] <SanderJP> ObrienDave do you know more about curl? :P
[10:01] <SanderJP> cos that fails aswell :/
[10:01] <ObrienDave> SanderJP, sorry, no
[10:01] <SanderJP> ok I'll try something else
[10:01] <aman121> ObrienDave:look in this,- http://i.imgur.com/XPHrDUo.png
[10:03] <ObrienDave> aman121, ok, i strongly suggest you d/l ISO from http://releases.ubuntu.com/ and start over
[10:04] <aman121> ObrienDave:ok
[10:05] <mkumar_> aman121: can you upload an image after clicking on the ubuntu14.04 on the right side of new volume?
[10:07] <ObrienDave> aman121, yes, that will be the "root" directory view
[10:07] <pajusmar> hi, i have a question about ubuntu 14.10
[10:08] <ObrienDave> pajusmar, please ask
[10:08] <aman121> mkumar,ObrienDave:here,http://i.imgur.com/uGsZkTj.png
[10:08] <pajusmar> i read the release notes and it says that Chromium is updated to version 38.
[10:09] <pajusmar> after doing the upgrade i find that it is still ver 37
[10:09] <pajusmar> ubuntu packages site also shows ver 37
[10:09] <pajusmar> is there a mistake in release notes?
[10:10] <ObrienDave> pajusmar, possibly
[10:10] <pajusmar> i must say that this is dissapointment
[10:10] <pajusmar> should i report a bug somewhere
[10:10] <ObrienDave> aman121, ok, that is NOT right. please start over from http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[10:11] <jaldhar> Has anyone seen this.  some long running task will cause a large load spike which makes the system unresponsive.  kern log contains a message such as "INFO: task DNS Res~ver #26:9576 blocked for more than 120 seconds"
[10:11] <mkumar_> aman121: ok, this is not the default ubuntu image
[10:11] <ObrienDave> pajusmar, it's a documentation error, NOT a bug
[10:11] <jaldhar> this is on kubuntu 14.04.01
[10:11] <aman121> ObrienDave,mkumar:ok
[10:13] <ObrienDave> pajusmar, a BUG means an error in the behavior or result of a program. yes, you should mention it to the documentation team. but i would not know where to start
[10:13] <pajusmar> i understand that its not a bug, but i want the error corrected so that people wont be confused
[10:14] <pajusmar> well thanks anyway
[10:14] <ObrienDave> sure
[10:14] <mkumar> aman121: but, what are the steps you followed to boot from the dvd?
[10:17] <Phuzzy> Anyone know of a source for partman-zfs options or a breakdown of how to preseed ZFS pool creation during install? im trying to roll a customized 14.04 install disk
[10:17] <aman121> mkumar:i have these files in dvd,and insert that in dvd reader,and reboot the system,but after rebooting it didn't detect the boot files from dvd.
[10:17] <aman121> mkumar :sorry lost added word in between.
[10:18] <venkat_330> ObrienDave: what is significance of leaving space between in between partition
[10:18] <ObrienDave> venkat_330, none what so ever
[10:19] <mkumar_> aman121: and what about BIOS setup?
[10:20] <ObrienDave> venkat_330, sometimes partitioners do that to maintain proper boundaries
[10:20] <aman121> mkumar:i did that too,by giving first preference to inbuilt cd/dvd reader.
[10:21] <ObrienDave> venkat_330, partitions should be aligned to either cylinder or MiB boundaries
[10:23] <mkumar_> aman121: ok,you can download and install ubuntu from the official website anytime
[10:23] <aman121> mkumar:ok...
[10:24] <aman121> mkumar:but that's the problem...
[10:25] <mkumar_> aman121: what?
[10:25] <aman121> mkumar:doesn't matter,forget it...well thanks for you help...
[10:27] <JohnSerial> Hi !
[10:27] <moses> hi
[10:28] <JohnSerial> I have a question about Ubuntu 14.04
[10:28] <JohnSerial> I have an old netbook (Compaq mini 700EF) with a dead HDD
[10:29] <ObrienDave> aman121, what's your question?
[10:29] <JohnSerial> So I use Ubuntu with my usb key
[10:30] <aman121> ObrienDave:not at all,all sorted...
[10:30] <JohnSerial> But the thing is, when I close the laptop, the usb port is no longer alimented
[10:30] <JohnSerial> So here is my question : How can I keep using the usb port even if the laptop is closed ?
[10:31] <hateball> JohnSerial: are you using powertop/powernap ?
[10:31] <ObrienDave> aman121, ok, if you have any more questions, please ask :)
[10:32] <aman121> ObrienDave:sure...thanks for help..
[10:32] <JohnSerial> Hmm I'm pretty new on Ubuntu, I don't think I'm using it :/
[10:32] <steveccc> whats the best html type editor for ubuntu
[10:33] <hateball> JohnSerial: alright. can you in a terminal run "cat /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend" and tell me the result?
[10:33] <hateball> !who | JohnSerial
[10:34] <JohnSerial> !hateball Yeah sorry for that ^^
[10:35] <ObrienDave> JohnSerial, commands for ubottu are proceeded by a !
[10:36] <bigred15> Anyone here use xbmcbuntu?
[10:36] <ObrienDave> for about 15 minutes, once
[10:36] <bigred15> Mine seems to crash every 4 hours :\
[10:37] <ObrienDave> mine crashed 3 times in 15 minutes. uninstalled ;P
[10:37] <bigred15> Ah, good to hear.
[10:37] <bigred15> Thought it was just me, haha.
[10:38] <ObrienDave> like most things, some like it, some hate it
[10:38] <bigred15> It's almost to the very minute (240 minutes), it just decides to go "nah, done my job"
[10:39] <ObrienDave> that is weird, cron job interfering maybe?
[10:39] <bigred15> Nope, checked that.
[10:39] <bigred15> It was the only thing I could think of that'd do something like it :(
[10:39] <Inoki> Guys I need advice. Which browser is the most resource-friendly. Am looking for something really simple, lightweight, just for browsing of images as I work with graphics and am running a virtual machine, so the browser shouldn't consume more than 200 MB.
[10:39] <bigred15> temps are all sweet
[10:40] <ObrienDave> bigred15, dang, i don't know
[10:40] <bigred15> ObrienDave: yeah got me stumped too chief. It's dual booted with Windows, so I ran her up, left her idling, she was fine for 12 hours before I kicked it.
[10:41] <JohnSerial> hateball : I get : "bash: cat/sys/module[...] No such file or directory
[10:41] <ObrienDave> Inoki, personal preference, really. up to you
[10:42] <bigred15> ObrienDave: there's two fifths of buggerall in dmesg too
[10:42] <ObrienDave> bigred15, yea, that's why i uninstalled XBMC. too much eye candy, no stability
[10:42] <hateball> JohnSerial: did you type or copy-paste what I typed? seems to me you're missing a space after cat
[10:42] <bigred15> yeah seems that way
[10:43] <bigred15> i reckon i'd be better off just firing up OB, and write some basic as hell bash script for a media player
[10:43] <JohnSerial> hateball : Oh didn't see that space... I'm using another computer here so I can only type everything :)
[10:44] <JohnSerial> hateball : Now I get "2"
[10:45] <hateball> JohnSerial: Yep, as expected. Try "echo -1 |sudo tee /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend" to make a temporary change to the behavior
[10:46] <hateball> JohnSerial: run "cat ..." after to see that value actually changed
[10:46] <hateball> JohnSerial: If it works, then we will make a permanent change elsewhere
[10:47] <JohnSerial> hateball : Ok, now I have the "-1" value
[10:47] <JohnSerial> hateball : Even after "cat /sys..."
[10:48] <sacarlson1> scottc
[10:48] <bigred15> db2 get db cfg for TSMDB1
[10:48] <bigred15> eh, wrong window
[10:48] <hateball> JohnSerial: alright, try closing the lid
[10:49] <JohnSerial> hateball : Ubuntu still working :) Thanks a lot for that
[10:49] <hateball> JohnSerial: note this is a temporary fix, it's gone on reboot
[10:49] <hateball> JohnSerial: so we will need to make it permanent!
[10:50] <JohnSerial> hateball : Should I type it again next time I'll turn on my computer ? I use "Try Ubuntu" option during the boot
[10:50] <JohnSerial> hateball : Ah, you've already answer to me
[10:51] <hateball> JohnSerial: echo "options usbcore autosuspend=-1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/disable-usb-autosuspend.conf
[10:51] <hateball> JohnSerial: that will make a config-file that sets that value on boot
[10:52] <JohnSerial> hateball : With a space between "|" and "sudo" ?
[10:52] <hateball> JohnSerial: that doesnt matter
[10:53] <Lucax> good day to you all, I just compressed an 8 gig movie trying both archive manager and ARK. I made one zip file and one .tar, both ended still 8 gig, how to compress so that the filesize reduce (I thought that was the whole point with compressing).
[10:53] <bigred15> Lucax: depends entirely on the type of data you are trying to compress.
[10:53] <JohnSerial> hateball : Done ! Thanks a lot :)
[10:53] <Lucax> I tried to compress the same file in two formats: mkv and mp4
[10:53] <hateball> Lucax: Something like a movie compressed in an mkv container won't shrink from being zipped
[10:54] <JohnSerial> hateball : I'll keep this on a sheet btw, could be useful
[10:54] <Lucax> I see
[10:54] <hateball> JohnSerial: Glad that it worked :)
[10:54] <Severus_> hi all
[10:54] <Lucax> so how to shrink a mkv, not possible at all?
[10:54] <hateball> JohnSerial: note that it disables usb suspend for everything, so dont forget your usb-toaster while on battery
[10:55] <sacarlson1> Lucax: video is already compressed in most formats but you can make it smaller with things like ffmpeg or other tools that you can specify bit rate you want
[10:55] <JohnSerial> hateball : Haha I will ^^
[10:56] <ObrienDave> Lucax, also, reducing bitrate sacrifices image quality
[10:58] <Lucax> I tried to use handbrake to find a comprimize, I guess I jhust have to play more with it. I would believe that reducing an 8 gig blue ray quality movie to the half would still make a pretty good quality, would do you think=
[10:58] <Lucax> it looks like ffmpeg is inbuilt into handbrake, true/false?
[10:59] <sacarlson1> Lucax: I think I also used kdelive video editor that integrates ffmpeg of something else the lets you specify the bitrate of the final product
[11:01] <sacarlson1> Lucax: if I recall handbrake was mostly made for x264 format or whatever it's called that is the most popular compresion type
[11:01] <sacarlson1> Lucax: I don't remember if handbrake had bitrate settings but yes it was much like ffmpeg
[11:02] <ObrienDave> yes but it also does MP4, MP2 and Theora
[11:04] <Lucax> so back to bitrate calculator to find a good compremise between filesize and quality
[11:04] <jesse_> Hello, just installed 14.10 and I am having problems viewing movgies on Google Play.  When I try to load a movie, Chrome gives me the error message "The uploader has not made this video available in your country" while Firefox gives me the error message, "An error occured, please try again later."  12 hours ago when I was running 14.04, google play functioned perfectly.  ANy ideas?
[11:04] <Lucax> ciao, thanks everyone
[11:04] <jesse_> movies*
[11:10] <rdz> hey all. how can i make gnome-keyring-daemon automatically unlock my ssh key at login?
[11:12] <sacarlson1> rdz: I don't recall having to unlock keyring to use ssh keys before.  as I recall that's why I setup ssh keys no no passwords were needed
[11:13] <rdz> sacarlson1, "why I setup ssh keys no no passwords were needed" <- i don't understand
[11:13] <rdz> you mean you create passwordless ssh keys?
[11:13] <sacarlson1> I setup ssh keys SO no passwords were needed
[11:13] <rdz> but you probably still have a password given to the key
[11:14] <sacarlson1> rdz: oh no I created the ssh keys without a text password that why none needed
[11:15] <sacarlson1> rdz: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[11:15] <rdz> i'd prefer to have keys protected by password.. but the same time i'd like to have them already unlocked when i'm logged in
[11:16] <sacarlson1> rdz: your account is already protected with password.  if you want 2 or 10 levels of passwords that's up to you and here you are now asking not to have them
[11:16] <rdz> sacarlson1, i know how to create passwordless keys.. but that is not the point
[11:17] <rdz> sacarlson1, i'm asking something that seems widely supported, according to google searches... it just doesn't work for me
[11:17] <sacarlson1> rdz: seems the same thing if you login and you don't need a password,  then encrypt your home directory for level 3 security
[11:18] <stianhj> Anyone have a NVIDIA card with HDMI audio working? Looking to buy a new card.
[11:19] <phasip> stianhj: NVIDIA & hdmi works for me
[11:19] <phasip> But then again I am using a laptop. Never had any trouble with other cards though
[11:20] <ObrienDave> cheater ;P
[11:20] <stianhj> phasip: Which card is it? And which driver are you using? Have an old 7600GT now that doesn't want to work
[11:22] <dbugger> Everytime I restart the computer and I try to use the Webcam, it says that the webcam is not detected. I have to unplug it and replug it to be able to use it. How can I solve this problem?
[11:24] <ObrienDave> dbugger, look through your webcam documentation. see if there's something to delay bootup
[11:24] <sacarlson1> dbugger: I've had some devices that unplug and replug is the only way I know to get them working.  I wonder if maybe some command or script could fully reset the usb hardware.  I've never tried it
[11:25] <noah_> My grub keeps boiting to a command line
[11:25] <tuga3d> hi all, my emphaty cant connect to google account, any tips?
[11:25] <jack> sacarlson1, that would rule
[11:26] <noah_> booting
[11:26] <steveccc> has anyone experienced dual screen problems on ubuntu - mine seems to block movement into the second monitor - sometimes working if you move the cursor across the very top of the screen
[11:27] <noah_> my grub keeps boting to a command line
[11:28] <anony_> when i try to install linux mint 13 i geta blinking linemoving up and down
[11:28] <sacarlson1> noah_: command line that you can login to?
[11:29] <ObrienDave> anony_, wrong channel
[11:29] <ObrienDave> !notmint
[11:29] <ObrienDave> !mint
[11:30] <noah_> sacarlson1: yes
[11:30] <sacarlson1> noah_: so I guess your x host stuf didn't start for many posible reasons
[11:31] <noah_> sacarlson1: I'm in linux right now
[11:31] <noah_> sacarlson1: I've even tried grub-update and grub-install
[11:32] <anony_> obriendave what channnel do i need
[11:32] <sacarlson1> noah_: then I would assume you could take a look at the /var/log files that start with x and see what error might have  been detected
[11:32] <dbugger> Obiwantje: This behavior started about 1 month ago. Before it worked without problem
[11:32] <dbugger> sacarlson1: if you figure it out, please do tell me :(
[11:32] <sacarlson1> noah_: from what you provided me it's not a grub problem probly a video problem
[11:33] <ObrienDave> !mint | anony_
[11:33] <noah_> sacarlson1: I tried installing burg but then it just booted to a grub> command line
[11:33] <ObrienDave> anony_, it's on a different server irc.spotchat.org
[11:34] <sacarlson1> noah_: I'll have to look that up what is burg?
[11:34] <noah_> sacarlson1: I used a kubuntu live-cd and then used bootrepair to install grub ob efi
[11:34] <noah_> sacarlson1: srry. Burg is a alternative to grub, although I hadn realized it hasn brrn updated since 2010
[11:34] <sacarlson1> noah_: oh you didn't make it as far as the login prompt then if your still at grup prompt
[11:34] <noah_> sacarlson1: srry. Burg is a alternative to grub, although I hadn realized it hasn been updated since 2010
[11:35] <noah_> I used grub commands to get me through
[11:35] <noah_> Iḿ here in the system using one of my OSs
[11:35] <noah_> OSes
[11:36] <noah_> sacarlson: I'm here in the system using one of my OSs
[11:37] <sacarlson1> noah_: one of the OSs that booted ok with this new burg method of boot?
[11:37] <noah_> sacarlson: No
[11:37] <noah_> sacarlson: I didn't even try to do it.
[11:37] <noah_> sacarlson: I used a live cd to do boot-repair
[11:38] <sacarlson1> noah_: so the only thing that boots now is a live-cd?
[11:38] <noah_> sacarlson: No
[11:39] <noah_> sacarlson: I did boot-repair and now grub is installed but it still boots to a grub> line
[11:39] <sacarlson1> noah_: so from what does boot from disk assuming it is grub just sudo update-grub
[11:40] <noah_> sacarlson: Tried that.
[11:40] <noah_> sacarlson: I'm in one of my partitioned OS's
[11:41] <sacarlson1> noah_: so how many os's still boot normaly, and the one that is not booting what is it?
[11:41] <AciD`> hi, how do you play webm video on ubuntu?
[11:41] <noah_> I haven't tried the others but the main problem is I have to type some grub> commands in order to boot
[11:41] <hateball> AciD`: In a browser like Firefox, for instance
[11:42] <hateball> AciD`: I think VLC does the trick as well
[11:42] <sacarlson1> noah_: so from grub boot you can select and boot some stuf ok?
[11:42] <AciD`> hateball > sure, but apart from that ? vlc for instance is complaning that it's a VP90 file and can't do anything with it
[11:43] <hateball> AciD`: What release are you on?
[11:43] <AciD`> hateball > Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[11:44] <ljetibo> Hey, is it possible that an archive is down? Is there somewhere I can check that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8654601/ Basically I tried installing python basemap module and it can't fetch hr.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <hateball> AciD`: Interesting. I'm using KDE Plasma, so I have Dragon by default. Which handles VP9 just fine.But both VLC and mplayer seem to choke indeed
[11:45] <sacarlson1> noah_: at some point when and if you can boot to a system that's on a hard disk maybe not only update-grub but also reinstall the mbr from that point
[11:46] <noah_> hello
[11:46] <ObrienDave> ljetibo, try a different mirror
[11:46] <noah_> sacarlson: Are you there
[11:46] <noah_> sacarlson1: Are you there
[11:46] <sacarlson1> noah_: it's very vage as to what does and doesn't work
[11:46] <AciD`> hateball > on my end, dragonplayer does not show any picture
[11:46] <ljetibo> ObrienDave: can I get a hint how to do that?
[11:46] <sacarlson1> noah_: at some point when and if you can boot to a system that's on a hard disk maybe not only update-grub but also reinstall the mbr from that point
[11:46] <gshmu> gfxboot.c32 not a com32r image  Ubuntu 14.10 boot from usb
[11:47] <noah_> how would I do that? In Grub Customizer?
[11:47] <ObrienDave> ljetibo, settings, software sources allows you to select different mirrors
[11:47] <noah_> sacarlson1: how would I do that? In Grub Customizer?
[11:47] <hateball> AciD`: Well I just grabbed something random from the net, but if they are using the same codec it should work... anyhow, cant say I've really used webm outside a browser
[11:47] <gshmu> I'm try ubuntu try 14.10
[11:47] <gshmu> using 14.04 creat the usb ..
[11:48] <sacarlson1> noah_: customizer might do that, I don't recall,  it's just a simple command line from a working boot
[11:48] <gshmu> but it can't boot
[11:48] <ObrienDave> gshmu, bad copy. try again
[11:48] <gshmu> I'm try again
[11:48] <noah_> sacarlson1: so did you catch my story of how this started?
[11:49] <sacarlson1> noah_: yes but I'm not knowing as to what that might do.  I just need to know what can be done from this point
[11:49] <gshmu> 1.2 GB (1,162,936,320 bytes)
[11:49] <ObrienDave> gshmu, also check the MD5SUM of the ISO
[11:50] <noah_> sacarlson1: ok well now they are all installed on EFI via boot-repair. Anyway do you know the default values for the enviornment setup in customizer?
[11:50] <bazhang> !hashes
[11:51] <ljetibo> ObrienDave: that seems to have worked, thanks.
[11:51] <ObrienDave> ljetibo, welcome
[11:52] <ObrienDave> ok, ok, bed time. good day all
[11:52] <gshmu> hello, md5 it's right
[11:53] <noah_> sacarlson1: u there?
[11:53] <gshmu> thanks every body.  if because I'm change the usb lable???
[11:53] <sacarlson1> noah_: oh efi another added complication.  I've never atempted recovery from efi,  I think the procedure would be somewhat differernt
[11:53] <noah_> sacarlson1: Well do you know the default values for the enviornment setup in customizer?
[11:56] <noah_> sacarlson1: Never mind they are back now
[11:56] <noah_> sacarlson1: I am going to try customizer
[11:57] <sacarlson1> noah_: no I know nothing of what's required to fix a broken efi grub.  I like you must research it.  at this point if it was me I would just reinstall a system on one of my spare partitions
[11:57] <noah_> sacarlson1: Customizer says it installed
[11:58] <noah_> sacarlson1: I'm gonna reboot and hope it worked
[11:58] <sacarlson1> noah_: as I always keep a small partitions availible for this task.  that I would assume would also do a grub-update to allow me to boot my other systems
[12:02] <sacarlson1> noah_: ya customizer if you got that far you should have been able to select what os you want as default
[12:02] <noah_> sacarlson1: have you said anything before this. I just got back on so I may have missed it
[12:03] <sacarlson1> noah_: no I saw you go offline
[12:03] <gshmu> md5 it's right, but I can't boot from my USB
[12:03] <gshmu> gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image
[12:03] <sacarlson1> other than this that you should have seen noah_: ya customizer if you got that far you should have been able to select what os you want as default
[12:04] <noah_> sacarlson1: OK so just for kicks booted to CSM mode and voila Grub booted with a OS chooser.
[12:04] <sacarlson1> gshmu: what method did you do to put the iso on the usb?
[12:04] <gshmu> ubuntu 14.04
[12:05] <noah_> sacarlson1: So right now i'm in CSM but I would like GRUB to work w/ EFI
[12:05] <gshmu> sacarlson1: start disk create
[12:05] <sacarlson1> noah_: cool so it works?
[12:05] <noah_> sacarlson1: So right now i'm in CSM but I would like GRUB to work w/ EFI
[12:05] <sacarlson1> noah_: did you install the grub efi package?
[12:05] <noah_> sacarlson1: No...
[12:06] <sacarlson1> noah_: it should have been auto installed at install of ubuntu
[12:06] <gshmu> sacarlson1: same with the 14.04, but this time it's can't boot
[12:06] <noah_> sacarlson1: Is that what may have been causing the problem. How do I check if I have it.
[12:06] <sacarlson1> noah_: unless maybe you have some dual mode motherboard that you installed in the none efi mode
[12:07] <sacarlson1> noah_: you can look in synaptic to see if it's installed
[12:07] <noah_> sacarlson1: You mean the non-efi mode?
[12:07] <sacarlson1> noah_: the mode before efi
[12:07] <sacarlson1> noah_: the legacy mode?
[12:07] <noah_> CSM?
[12:07] <sacarlson1> noah_: I don't know what csm is
[12:08] <noah_> Compatability Support Mode.
[12:08] <noah_> Basically it makes you computer work w/ non-efi compatable boot options
[12:08] <sacarlson1> noah_: I don't fully understand the difference between original grub bios and this new efi
[12:09] <noah_> sacarlson1: what do you mean by grub bios?
[12:09] <sacarlson1> noah_: ya ok then csm maybe you had it set to lagacy when you installed
[12:09] <noah_> yes
[12:09] <noah_> legacy
[12:10] <noah_> sacarlson1: what would the grub efi package be called
[12:10] <sacarlson1> noah_: efi is like a bios thing with efi being the new bios boot interface
[12:10] <noah_> sacarlson1: what would the grub efi package be called
[12:10] <sacarlson1> noah_: I don't recall the name but the name has grub and efi in it
[12:10] <noah_> sacarlson1: :)
[12:10] <sacarlson1> noah_: like maybe grub-efi?
[12:11] <noah_> sacarlson1: checking... and since I'm on Kubuntu (with a K) I am using sudo dpkg --get-selections
[12:11] <sacarlson1> min is called grub-efi-amd64-bin
[12:12] <noah_> sacarlson1: No grub efi
[12:13] <sacarlson1> noah_: I see more than 4 different grub efi versions depending on ia32, amd64,  signed and unsigned
[12:13] <noah_> I believe I am amd64
[12:13] <sacarlson1> noah_: if it's not in the repository then you not running ubuntu
[12:14] <collinanderson> does the user+s permission have any meeting on a directory?
[12:14] <collinanderson> *meaning
[12:14] <noah_> sacarlson1: found it. I am installing
[12:16] <collinanderson> ohh. i finally found it: "The setuid permission set on a directory is ignored on UNIX and Linux systems."
[12:16] <aneks> Is 14.10 available for upgrade yet? For some reason it doesn't show up for me.
[12:17] <geirha> aneks: yes, but you have to actively tell it to upgrade to 14.10. 14.04 LTS prefers to upgrade directly to 16.04 LTS
[12:17] <geirha> !upgrade
[12:17] <sacarlson1> collinanderson: if that was the case why does this file have my name on it -rw-------  1 sacarlson sacarlson      0 Sep 28 11:01 test.conf
[12:20] <collinanderson> sacarlson1: that's the uid and gid, i'm talking about running `chmod u+s` on a directory
[12:20] <sacarlson1> collinanderson: oh maybe that S bit?  I think in linux they call it the sticky bit?  it may have some other function on linux than on solaris
[12:20] <collinanderson> sacarlson1: exactly
[12:21] <collinanderson> sacarlson1: apparently it _does_ have meaning on BSD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setuid_and_setgid_on_directories
[12:21] <sacarlson1> collinanderson: it is there and it does have function I think to override sudo or something
[12:21] <collinanderson> sacarlson1: yes, exactly for files
[12:22] <collinanderson> sacarlson1: but not for directories
[12:23] <sacarlson1> collinanderson: oh that must be true I don't see a space or a usage for sticky bit in a directory
[12:24] <collinanderson> sacarlson1: I use g+s a lot. It's handy when there's a directory shared by a group.
[12:25] <gshmu> Machines with ATI/AMD video cards may be getting blank or entirely turned off screen at boot. The screen will switch on when the X server starts. If you need it to turn on prior to that, for example to unlock an encrypted harddisk hitting ESC twice should reset the video card to a working state.
[12:26] <gshmu> sorry, wrong channel...
[12:26] <sacarlson1> collinanderson: oh I've never seen that function, but it can be emulated by mounting the disk or directory so that it forces the username to be something else
[12:26] <aneks> geirha: I've run update-manager and it says that the software is up to date, which can't be as I'm running 14.04.1
[12:26] <boichev> how can i see if gro is off with ethtool ?
[12:29] <sacarlson1> boichev: what's gro?
[12:30] <boichev> sacarlson1: generic receive offload
[12:31] <sacarlson1> boichev: oh so you want to monitor if trafic generated from gro is active?
[12:31] <boichev> sacarlson1: I want to see if it is ON or OFF for an interface
[12:34] <teward> aneks: have you tried `do-release-upgrade` on the command line?  Not that I recommend upgrading, but...
[12:36] <cfhowlett> aneks, actually that CAN be up to date if you are set to run Long Term Support releases only - recommended by the way.
[12:36] <teward> agreed with cfhowlett
[12:37] <Almis90> hey guys, if there is a command that automatically generate log file, is it possible somehow to disable it? there is no such option I can only set the log output path
[12:37] <aneks> teward: I have tried it and it says no new releases found
[12:38] <cfhowlett> aneks, go to your software sources ... turn off LTS releases only
[12:38] <aneks> cfhowlett: How do I change it? It might be recommended but I'd prefer upgrading to 14.10
[12:38] <aneks> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:38] <cfhowlett> aneks, just remember: leading edge = bleeding edge
[12:39] <sacarlson1> Almis90: I would think if you just set the file or directory as read only then it can't be writen
[12:40] <Almis90> sacarlson1 I get Permission denied: '/var/www/projects/dj4me/public/webkit2png.log'
[12:40] <Almis90> when I run my command
[12:41] <sacarlson1> Almis90: permission denied to read it or chmod ?  please people also include what generates the output of your statements
[12:45] <Almis90> sacarlson1 I new to ubuntu so I not sure, I run sudo chown -R :www-data on my project directory so I though I will not get any permission error
[12:47] <sacarlson1> Almis90: even if you own a file you can set the chmod of files and directorys to be not readable by even the owner
[12:49] <sacarlson1> Almis90: maybe this article will bring some light to how file ownership and premisions work http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/309527-understanding-linux-file-permissions
[12:49] <somsip> !permissions | Almis90
[12:50] <Almis90> sacarlson1 thank you I will read it and try again
[12:50] <anony_> what program can i use to extract a .xz file
[12:50] <sacarlson1> Almis90: I think I like the somsip article better, they should both provide what you need
[12:51] <sacarlson1> anony_: you might be able to double click it in nautilus to view and extract it
[12:51] <Laurenceb> anyone here know how to firce a usb port to suspend?
[12:51] <quantum-mechanic> what is ubuntu 17.10 going to be called
[12:52] <anony_> sacarlson1 how do i doo that
[12:52] <sacarlson1> anony_: nautilus is the file manager tool you must have used it before
[12:53] <anony_> sarcarlson1 no ive not im running lubunto
[12:53] <sacarlson1> anony_: other file managers also support this feature
[12:53] <anony_> sarcarlson1 so how do i do it
[12:54] <steveccc> can anyone recommend a good web editor with ftp support that is similar to mac coda
[12:54] <anony_> sacarlson1
[12:57] <ksbalaji> Help! I've screwed up my USB boot drive inadvertently I've removed a few maybe boot file /s which ones I don't know.  I'm getting error ..can't mount on cow..
[12:57] <Almis90> sacarlson1 I made new group and added there 2 users and grant them write permission using sudo chmod -vR g+w now I can write on my project directory. I can't set that directory as read only because I want to be able to write there so any other suggestion?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:58] <somsip> Almis90: is this a local development web server?
[12:58] <Almis90> somsip yes
[12:59] <somsip> Almis90: add yourself to www-data group. chgrp -R www-data /var/www/project && chmod g+s /var/www/project. Anything new created in that folder will be chgrp www-data, so apache can r/w files like logs, cache etc, and so can you as a user
[12:59] <somsip> Almis90: sorry - chmod -R g+s /var/www/project
[12:59] <Almis90> somsip I did this
[13:00] <somsip> Almis90: I can see nothing that suggests you have chmod g+s -R
[13:00] <Almis90> somsip my problem is when I run xvfb-run webkit2png -g 1280 720 -o img/facebook.com.jpg -f jpg -F javascript -F plugins "http://facebook.com" it automatically creates log file in my public folder
[13:01] <Almis90> I dont want any log file
[13:01] <somsip> Almis90: so you're trying to prevent a program from writing a log it wants to write?
[13:02] <Almis90> somsip yes, there is no such option in the help, you can only specify where to output log
[13:02] <somsip> Almis90: so output it to /dev/null
[13:02] <sacarlson1> Almis90: like I said if you don't want it to write to the file just change the log files premisions chmod -w yourlogfile.log  maybe sudo needed depending on ownder
[13:03] <anony_> what can i open a .xz file in and extract
[13:04] <sacarlson1> Almis90: ya somsip's method is even better if you can control the path just make it /dev/null
[13:04] <somsip> anony_: tar.xz ?
[13:04] <anony_> yes sorry
[13:04] <somsip> anony_:  tar xvfJ filename.tar.xz
[13:04] <anony_> yes i tihnk
[13:04] <Almis90> somsip I will do that. sacarlson1 I just dont understand how I can change the permission to a file that doesnt exist yet
[13:04] <somsip> anony_: read up on other options at your leisure http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12298368/how-to-unzip-tar-xz-files
[13:05] <sacarlson1> Almis90: if the file doesn't exist yet you just touch it   touch filename.log
[13:06] <anony_> how do i ugrade tar and somsip if i give you the file name and location can u give me the command
[13:06] <Almis90> sacarlson1 now I understood :) but yeah somsip suggestion output it to /dev/null is simplier
[13:06] <sacarlson1> Almis90: after you touch it you can then chmod -w filename.log.  but as I said somsip's method is better
[13:06] <anony_> upgrade *
[13:06] <somsip> anony_: sudo apt-get install tar, and no
[13:07] <anony_> somsip i dont know how do find the location and make the ocmmand properlly
[13:07] <somsip> anony_: then I've given you all of the help I'm prepared to give for now
[13:07] <Pici> anony_: You don't know where your file is?
[13:08] <ahoneybun> identify L1f3isPeachy
[13:08] <ahoneybun> opps
[13:08] <anony_> pici the command is tar xpvf /path/to/my_archive.tar.xz -C /path/to/extract and my file is in my downloads
[13:08] <sacarlson1> Pici: I'm guessing maybe anony_ just doesn't know how to navigate to directory path and list diretory?
[13:09] <Kartagis> we have got a VPS running Ubuntu Server, and mysql doesn't start on boot even though upstart links exist. how come?
[13:09] <anony_> sacarlsonl yes im a newbie just installed lubunto yesterday
[13:09] <Pici> anony_: typically downloads is in /home/$USER/Downloads
[13:09] <sacarlson1> Kartagis: can you start mysql after it boots?
[13:10] <Kartagis> sacarlson1: yeah
[13:10] <khax> alina-malina
[13:10] <anony_> and how do i extract to my desktop
[13:10] <sacarlson1> Kartagis: and no errors seen at this start??
[13:10] <Kartagis> sacarlson1: nope
[13:11] <sacarlson1> Kartagis: I'm not sure, I've never had a problem were mysql won't start at boot before.  maybe just setup another way to start it in cron
[13:12] <sacarlson1> Kartagis: or customize the /etc/init.d or /etc/init  file for mysql and just add some delay
[13:13] <sacarlson1> Kartagis: oh and also take a look in /var/log to see why it didn't start
[13:13] <anony_> whats my path to etxtract from downloads to desktop
[13:14] <lokote_jones> anony_: /home/USER/desktop(possibly Desktop I am on Unix)
[13:14] <ramblingpirate> anony_: for tar? tar xfv ~/Desktop
[13:15] <lokote_jones> ramblingpirate: Or that - it's a shortcut that says take me to the home of the user first (When you see ~)
[13:15] <ramblingpirate> if it's a tar.gz file, tar xfvz filename.tar.gz ~/Desktop
[13:15] <ramblingpirate> lokote_jones: yeah, I'm used to shortcuts. I'm lazy.
[13:15] <ramblingpirate> lokote_jones: Blame it on being a sysadmin, bahaha
[13:16] <Rorro> Hey guys. I have an issue with Linux Mint 17 cinnamon. When I put the laptop in suspend mode it sometimes wakes up from resume mode by it's own.
[13:16] <auscompgeek> ramblingpirate: anony_ only wanted the path, don't overload him/her with information :)
[13:16] <auscompgeek> !mint | Rorro
[13:16] <lokote_jones> ramblingpirate: =) No problem. I just worry sometimes when I see new users who may not know what the ~ means.
[13:16] <Rorro> auscompgeek, ok thanks
[13:16] <chimera> Hello all, wanted to know smth, in 14.10 what is the version of gedit? 3.12? I hate that new interface and was wondering if I could downgrade it to the previous version
[13:16] <ramblingpirate> auscompgeek: lokote_jones yeah, sorry guys. I got excited. I knew an answer
[13:17] <lokote_jones> ramblingpirate:  =) I know those feels.
[13:17] <auscompgeek> ramblingpirate: we don't even know whether he/she is using tar :P
[13:17] <auscompgeek> !package gedit
[13:18] <ramblingpirate> 08:08 <anony_> pici the command is tar xpvf /path/to/my_archive.tar.xz -C /path/to/extract and my file is in my downloads
[13:18] <auscompgeek> erm... what's the command again
[13:18] <ramblingpirate> I only said tar because that's what was said earlier. :(
[13:18] <auscompgeek> ramblingpirate: oh. whoops.
[13:18] <ramblingpirate> auscompgeek: haha, all good. I thought I was going crazy.
[13:18] <chimera> I could DL the gedit 3.10 deb, but will 14.10 allow me to do that? I mean the dependancies could get fuc**ed up
[13:18] <lokote_jones> chimera: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GtkSourceView/StyleSchemes You can edit the theme for gedit without downgrading. You may want to look into that.
[13:18] <ramblingpirate> also auscompgeek: http://xkcd.com/1168/
[13:19] <ramblingpirate> there's one for everything.
[13:19] <lokote_jones> chimera: Doing a downgrade just because you don't like a theme may not be a wise choicest.
[13:19] <auscompgeek> !info gedit
[13:19] <anony_> ramblingpirate how do i do that
[13:19] <chimera> lokote_jones: thanks, but I'm talking about the interface overhaul, not the syntax coloring
[13:19] <auscompgeek> chimera: it's still 3.10 in utopic, you're fine :)
[13:19] <pbx> there's a utility that allows you to change settings depending on external events e.g. specific hardware getting connected or disconnected. i'm failing to find it. anybody recall the name?
[13:19] <chimera> auscompgeek: thanks mate ;)
[13:19] <ramblingpirate> anony_: Do what? Extract tar?
[13:19]  * auscompgeek sleeps
[13:19] <anony_> tar.xz
[13:20] <ramblingpirate> anony_: the most basic way to extract a tar.gz file is tar xvfz tar_file_name.tar.gz
[13:21] <anony_> ramblingpirate its a tar.xz file
[13:22] <ramblingpirate> anony_: Apparently, the new tar automagically does this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92328/how-do-i-uncompress-a-tarball-that-uses-xz
[13:22] <simonor> 14.10. Bloody amateur night. They have NOT fixed networking. They've BROKEN printing. They've broken Kdenlive. What an exercise in futility.
[13:22] <ramblingpirate> you can just use tar xf archive.tar.gz/xz
[13:22] <ramblingpirate> anony_: you can just use tar xf archive.tar.gz/xz
[13:23] <anony_> ramblingpirate im new to all this can u give me step by step instructions please
[13:23] <anony_> im running lubunto 10.04
[13:23] <anony_> 12 *
[13:23] <acerspyro> Is there a shortcut to show the desktop? I have a game that won't let me alt tab to another window unless I alt tab to the desktop
[13:24] <pbx> acerspyro, super-d
[13:24] <acerspyro> pbx: Thank you
[13:24] <ramblingpirate> anony_: yeah, sure. When you downloaded the tar.xz file, I'm assuming it put it in ~/Downloads (~ is your user home directory, it's just a shortcut for it. the full path would be /home/yourusername/Downloads)
[13:25] <pbx> acerspyro, it's odd that isn't listed in the shortcut help when you hold super
[13:25] <ramblingpirate> anony_: to check this, you can use the list command to show the contents of your downloads folder like this: ls -la ~/Downloads
[13:25] <anony_> waite can i right click and compress to desktop
[13:26] <acerspyro> pbx: Truth is, I forgot to check in there first. But indeed, it's missing...
[13:26] <ramblingpirate> anony_: yes, you can use the gui to do this. Right click --> 'Extract here'
[13:26] <ramblingpirate> anony_: then, just click and drag to your desktop folder
[13:26] <anony_> how do i install gui
[13:26] <cfhowlett> anony_, it's already installed
[13:28] <E727> Hi, I've installed texlive from source. Is there a way I can somehow inform apt that texlive-latex-base doesn't need to be installed so that I can install ipe via apt-get?
[13:30] <anony_> is there a update manger on lubunto
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> anony_  look in the menu
[13:30] <anony_> MonkeyDust i cant see one
[13:30] <cfhowlett> anony_, yes... system > update manager
[13:31] <acerspyro> anony_: I don't want to be mean, but can you try to look around before asking questions?
[13:31] <anony_> i have and there is no update manger
[13:31] <cfhowlett> anony_, do you have a terminal?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> anony_  the try alt-f2
[13:31] <acerspyro> apt-get update
[13:31] <acerspyro> sudo apt-get update
[13:32] <cfhowlett> guys there's a bug with lubuntu/update manager.
[13:32] <acerspyro> I keep typing pacman -Syu instead :P
[13:32] <anony_> it comes up with run a command when i click alt-f2
[13:32] <acerspyro> *chuckles*
[13:32] <cfhowlett> anony.  right.  good. first command:         cat /etc/issue
[13:32] <acerspyro> Ah, people, clicking on keyboards, no can do.
[13:33] <cfhowlett> anony_, report what that tells you
[13:33] <anony_> cfhowlett ok
[13:34] <anony_> cfhowlett it just shut and done nothing
[13:34] <cfhowlett> anony_, abnormal.  re-open and try again - carefully
[13:34] <yacc> Any idea how to install Ubuntu headless? Everything Google returns seems to be related to using the alternate installer disc which does not exist for 14.04 anymore?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> yacc, ubuntu server version can do it
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> yacc  do you *want* headless, or is it all you can find?
[13:35] <k1l> yacc: alternate is gone. use the server cd instead
[13:36] <anony_> what comman do i run if alt f2
[13:36] <cfhowlett> anony_, after you get the terminal:  cat /etc/issue
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> anony_  any command you want, like update-manager
[13:36] <yacc> Well, I do want headless.
[13:36] <zhsj> why chromium version 14.10 is lower than 14.04
[13:36] <anony_> its still just closed
[13:36] <anony_> and done nothing
[13:37] <cfhowlett> anony_, something very strange ... plan b ...
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> anony_  open a terminal and type   cat /etc/issue
[13:37] <qengho> zhsj: Chromium is being updated now. Give it a few hours.
[13:37] <cfhowlett> anony_, teminal command: apt-cache policy lxsession
[13:38] <anony_> cfhowlett ok 2 secs
[13:38] <zhsj> qengho, ok..
[13:38] <anony_> lxsession:
[13:38] <anony_>   Installed: 0.4.3-0ubuntu1
[13:38] <anony_>   Candidate: 0.4.3-0ubuntu1
[13:38] <anony_>   Version table:
[13:38] <anony_>  *** 0.4.3-0ubuntu1 0
[13:38] <anony_>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/universe Packages
[13:38] <unopaste> anony_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:38] <cfhowlett> anony_, yep.  same as reported here:  http://www.tuicool.com/articles/JBnMfq
[13:39] <cfhowlett> anony_, for now:  terminal.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:39] <daniel__> hello all. trying to run realcrypt (or some other similar software) as I have some truecrypt-encrypted volumes I need to make use of. since nobody packages RC for apt (only rpm), I have installed yum. (I'll be careful.) not sure how I go about adding repos to yum to avoid the "There are no enabled repos." error.
[13:40] <Fatboy_Slim> Question: How do I disable workspaces on my external monitor in Ubuntu 14.04/Unity
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> daniel__  this is ubuntu, how are yum and rpm ubuntu related?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> daniel__, check your channel ...
[13:40] <anony_> cfhowlett yes done them 2 commands
[13:41] <cfhowlett> anony_, lsb_release -a
[13:41] <daniel__> they aren't. as I said, realcrypt is not available for apt-get. since someone *has* taken the trouble of packaging yum for apt-get, I presume this is not a *totally* unreasonable thing to do.
[13:41] <cfhowlett> anony_, report feedback
[13:41] <k1l> Fatboy_Slim: you cant disable it for only one monitor. both or no one
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> daniel__  what distro are you using? please go to the appropriate channel
[13:42] <daniel__> I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:42] <Fatboy_Slim> k1l: okay thanks, that kind of sucks, wasn't that possible with Gnome?
[13:42] <Ryvius> Help, I have just updated to 14.10, but after restarting it is just hanging on the ubuntu boot screen with the five dots underneath
[13:42] <vitimiti> daniel__, Ubuntu doesn't use yum
[13:42] <daniel__> vitimitir: read slowly :-)
[13:42] <k1l> Fatboy_Slim: yes, gnome-shell uses that setup as standard. but unity went another way
[13:43] <cfhowlett> daniel__, yum may have been "packaged for apt, but at best it only imports alien rpm packages.  and aliens frequently work poorly if at all
[13:43] <anony_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8656085/
[13:43] <anony_> thats all the command i've run
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> daniel__  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[13:43] <cfhowlett> daniel__, 10.04?  really?
[13:43] <anony_> also my wireless driver doesn't work
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !10.04
[13:43] <daniel__> thanks cfhowlett. yes, I'm apprehensive about it as well. I'm just now sure if there are any better alternatives to this course of action. I need the files in those volumes, and I cant figure out a better way of getting them than by using a piece of software originally targetted for rpm and distributed only through yum.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> anony_, desktop support for 10.04 ended LONG ago.
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> daniel__  try the cammand alien
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> command*
[13:44] <anony_> cfhowlett what should i download a new one
[13:44] <cfhowlett> daniel__, compile from source ... probably "safer" than alien import
[13:45] <cfhowlett> anony_, I'd say it's time.  easy way:  get the 14.04.1 torrent of xubuntu or lubuntu.  make a bootable USB.  clean install
[13:45] <Ryvius> Nobody...? What can I do if it keeps hanging?
[13:45] <anony_> when i try that though it just keeps loading a dash line moving around my pc is not good enough
[13:45] <cfhowlett> anony_, as it is: 10.04 gets no security upgrades.  risky
[13:46] <anony_> can you link me to a clean 32 bit iso of lubuntu
[13:46] <cfhowlett> anony_, lubuntu and xubuntu are both good for older  and lower specification machines.  lubuntu is optimized for those machines.  wait 1
[13:46] <anony_> for a hp mini 110
[13:46] <cfhowlett> anony_, nice.  wait 1
[13:47] <daniel__> the problem is I can't for the life of me actually find either the sources or the RPM for the software I want to install (realcrypt)
[13:47] <cfhowlett> anony_, find your torrent manager:  should be transmission.
[13:47] <sacarlson1> daniel__: I assume you tried the ppa https://launchpad.net/~stefansundin/+archive/ubuntu/truecrypt
[13:47] <neoark> linux-generic-lts-utopic in trusty out?
[13:48] <anony_> cfhowlett found it
[13:48] <cfhowlett> anony_, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent                 open that with transmission.  go for a pint.  wait for the download to complete.
[13:48] <Ryvius> After restarting there is just a blank screen... Help, 14.10 has bricked my OS
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, cutting edge = bleeding edge.  14.04 Long Term Support is recommended.
[13:49] <Ryvius> ... so anything but LTS is like beta software that might break??
[13:49] <nobody18288181> is systemd default in 14.10?
[13:49] <anony_> cfhowlett what do i use to put on a usb
[13:50] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, in *my* opinion, exactly.
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | Ryvius
[13:50] <cfhowlett> anony_, unetbootin or startup-disk-creator
[13:50] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, but do try the nomodeset optoin
[13:50] <sacarlson1> Ryvius: it's only with brave people like you trying it do we find out
[13:50] <cfhowlett> *option*
[13:50] <anony_> cfhowlett how do i get one of these and i dont have one installed already
[13:51] <Ryvius> Really nice to be offered risky software..
[13:51] <cfhowlett> anony_, errrr, right.  do you have access to another machine?  windows?
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, I believe the website states : LTS is recommended.  :)
[13:51] <anony_> cfhowlett yes
[13:52] <cfhowlett> anony_, unetbootin will work on a windows box
[13:52] <neoark> how to get trusty kernel?
[13:52] <k1l> Ryvius: just ranting will not motivate volunteers to help you
[13:52] <Ryvius> The update manager didn't recommend anything, just said yaay upgrade available
[13:52] <neoark> utopic
[13:52] <cfhowlett> anony_, and you can make an ubuntu usb with unetbootin on that box
[13:52] <daniel__> does anyone have any truecrypt-compatible alternatives that they'd reccomend? or a good way to install the 7.01a now that its not being distributed thru the website?
[13:52] <Ryvius> k1l: I think people deserve to know where they can improve
[13:53] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, thank you for volunteering!  we do appreciate it.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, if you prefer, though, you can set your update manager to alert only for LTS
[13:53] <sacarlson1> daniel__: I didn't see your reponce to https://launchpad.net/~stefansundin/+archive/ubuntu/truecrypt
[13:53] <k1l> Ryvius: just ranting in here just really shows the lack of your character. i you would want to help improving you would actually file bugs on launchpad.net
[13:53] <anony_> cfhowlett so i download the lubunto 14 and use unetbootin and make a live usb
[13:53] <cfhowlett> anony_, exactly!
[13:53] <anony_> can you link me one that will deffo work on a hp mini 110
[13:54] <anony_> 1gb ram i have i think
[13:54] <cfhowlett> anony_, I'd bet money that lubuntu 14.04.1 will work on your hp.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements
[13:55] <Ryvius> Okay, nomodeset didn't change anything... funny, when I press the power button the ubuntu logo with dots show again like it is powering down normally
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, by chance: AMD graphics?
[13:55] <Fatboy_Slim> Anyone here running i3 WM on ubuntu? Im pretty happy with it, except google chrome and citrix client (remote desktop) freezes quite often :/
[13:56] <k1l> Ryvius: what video card? what driver? what error messages? what errors in dmesg log? how was the driver installed?
[13:56] <anony_> cfhowlett can i put the one i downloade djust then on a usb and move to a windows computer and do i tthere
[13:56] <cfhowlett> anony_, yes you can but first verify that .iso with md5sum
[13:56] <Ryvius> cfhowlett: Yep
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | anony
[13:57] <anony_> cfhowlett how do i do that
[13:57] <Ryvius> k1l: 7700, 14.9 from AMD's site I think, just get a blank screen now, log is accessed how? and driver installed per AMD's instructions
[13:57] <k1l> Ryvius: there you go. the installed driver from amd site is the issue
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, more good news: amd is not especially linux-friendly.  they are now addressing that but ...
[13:58] <Ryvius> So.. Any way to revert back when my system is like this?
[13:58] <Guest41453> hello to all'
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, no point-and-click option: reinstall the working version
[13:58] <anony_> cfhowlett i dowloaded the link u sent me with transmission
[13:58] <cfhowlett> anony_, you already have the .iso?  that fast?
[13:58] <zhsj> did anyone install flgrx from amd offical site? is there any problem
[13:59] <anony_> cfhowlett yeh
[13:59]  * cfhowlett curses his slow Chinese ISP speed
[13:59] <zhsj> on 14.10
[13:59] <Ryvius> zhsj: I just destroyed my installation from upgrading to 14.10 with that driver
[13:59] <cfhowlett> anony_, OK - use the link I sent to verify your iso
[14:00] <Ryvius> Oh well, I'm gonna try to make a forum post, a reinstall sounds disastrous..
[14:00] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, in fairness to you, the main webpage *still* doesn't recommend the LTS version.
[14:01] <Quatroking> why, when copying a file to usb, does the transmission go slower and slower throughout the transmission
[14:01] <zhsj> Ryvius, I uninstalled the fglrx before i upgrading to 14.10. Now I'm not sure whether or not to install fglrx immediately
[14:01] <Quatroking> it starts at 25mb/s but slows down to 8mb/s after a short while
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Quatroking, normal
[14:01] <axisys> after upgrade.. I do not see the network manager icon
[14:01] <Ryvius> Ohh, looks like there is a sticky in the Upgrade forum with my issue
[14:01] <axisys> what gives?
[14:01] <Quatroking> cfhowlett, why?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, link??
[14:01] <k1l> Ryvius: well. you could get the amd site .deb again and install it on cli on your system
[14:02] <soreau> axisys: Is network-manager service running?
[14:02] <Quatroking> is it how usb is designed or something?
[14:02] <axisys> soreau: no
[14:02] <Ryvius> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535
[14:02] <soreau> axisys: You need to start it and make sure nm-applet is running as well
[14:02] <k1l> Quatroking: "cache" is the word for your deeper searches on that issue
[14:02] <cfhowlett> Quatroking, I know it's common but I don't know why.  Narrow pipe/bandwidth?  some kind of electrical star-trek technobabble?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !cookie | k1l,
[14:03] <crocket> Where can I find a proper ubiquity preseed for ubuntu 14.04 trusty?
[14:03] <crocket> Preseeding ubiquity installer is
[14:03] <crocket> difficult
[14:03]  * cfhowlett adds "cache" to his working vocabulary
[14:03] <crocket> There is virtually no documentation for preseeding ubiquity.
[14:03] <axisys> soreau: started network-manager.. shouldnt it start by itself?
[14:04] <soreau> axisys: yes
[14:04] <axisys> soreau: I rebooted twice.. so it is not calling the init script I take
[14:04] <soreau> axisys: no idea why it isn't starting. By default, installed services startup on boot
[14:05] <axisys> soreau: also now I see two network icons
[14:05] <axisys> soreau: none of them shows the icon for eth0 connected.. only shows wifi is not.
[14:05] <axisys> soreau: could not make wifi working last night
[14:05] <zhaojiaming> ？？
[14:05] <axisys> this morning working with wire
[14:06] <axisys> soreau: that is eth0 connected
[14:06] <soreau> axisys: What desktop environment are you using?
[14:06] <cfhowlett> !cn | zhaojiaming,
[14:06] <axisys> defautl unity
[14:06] <axisys> soreau: ^
[14:06] <soreau> axisys: hm
[14:06] <soreau> axisys: maybe some package got removed by mistake
[14:07] <soreau> axisys: Oh, what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:07] <soreau> AxForest: can you pastebin.com it?
[14:07] <soreau> axisys: *
[14:07] <axisys> soreau: used to be only this
[14:07] <axisys> soreau: auto lo
[14:07] <axisys> iface lo inet loopback
[14:07] <Ryvius> Okay, I think I got the kernel booting at least
[14:08] <soreau> axisys: and now?
[14:08] <axisys> soreau: added eth0 this morning and did a ifup eth0 .. otherwise it was not picking up network
[14:08] <axisys> soreau: added this
[14:08] <axisys> auto eth0
[14:08] <axisys> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[14:08] <Ryvius> It's asking for a login to my machine, not that I have any idea what that would be
[14:09] <soreau> axisys: You should restore the file and restart network-manager
[14:09] <axisys> soreau: ok..
[14:09] <soreau> axisys: You probably just need to make sure network-manager starts automatically
[14:10] <axisys> soreau: ok.. that fixed it
[14:10] <axisys> but still two icons
[14:10] <soreau> axisys: Can't you just right-click and remove one or something?
[14:10] <TooLmaN> Hi guys.  I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.1 and now, like many others, I get dropped to a maintenance prompt.  Running recovery, I can't really run any options as my system pauses at mounting root (/dev/mapper/<server>-root.  Says it's clean but doesn't mount.  Any ideas?
[14:10] <axisys> two eth0 connected icons.. and not wifi not found icons any more
[14:10] <axisys> soreau: ^
[14:10] <soreau> axisys: Can you remove one of them?
[14:10] <Ryvius> oh I logged in
[14:11] <axisys> soreau: dont know how
[14:11] <zhaojiaming> sorry
[14:11] <soreau> axisys: well what's the problem connecting to wifi?
[14:11] <zhaojiaming> i'm chinese
[14:11] <axisys> soreau: it was getting any IP
[14:12] <soreau> axisys: Do you have unity 8?
[14:12] <abc> Hi Just installed Ubuntu 14.10 along with indicator cpufreq . Only two governors are shown (powersave and performance). How can I get other three especially ondemand. Worked fine in ubuntu 14.04
[14:12] <axisys> soreau: I use wifi when I am home.. now I am at work.. let me look at the old log
[14:12] <nullbyte_> why 14.10 uses gnome 3.8?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> TooLmaN  is that a server with mdadm?
[14:13] <TooLmaN> MonkeyDust, It's LVM.  Running in a VMWare environment.
[14:13] <zhaojiaming> 啦啦啦啦
[14:14] <axisys> soreau: how do I know?
[14:14] <soreau> axisys: I think you need to remove indicator-network package to get rid of the other network icon
[14:14] <zhaojiaming> ？
[14:14] <TooLmaN> MonkeyDust, I've tried the dpkg --configure -a after remounting root rw.  No changes.  Followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/38617/root-filesystem-check-fails-after-power-failure-during-installation
[14:14] <axisys> soreau: I do not have indicator-network package
[14:15] <TooLmaN> MonkeyDust, running update-grub says that 2.00 is unpacked but not installed and thus will not run
[14:15] <axisys> soreau: may be I need to install indicator-network package
[14:15] <axisys> ?
[14:16] <TooLmaN> rebooting from the maintenance console hangs as well.  I have to CAD
[14:16] <zhaojiaming> fuck
[14:16] <soreau> axisys: I guess it wouldn't hurt to try
[14:16] <axisys> soreau: which one?
[14:16] <axisys> soreau: indicator-network            indicator-network-autopilot  indicator-network-prompt
[14:16] <genii> !cn | zhaojiaming
[14:16] <soreau> axisys: just indicator-network
[14:17] <soreau> axisys: It will pull in other packages it needs
[14:17] <jimmy51v_> i'm running a script with kdesudo.  it seems to not be finishing and cuts off mid of an apt-get install command.  does kdesudo timeout?
[14:17] <axisys> soreau: 169 extra packages !!
[14:17] <k1l> !info gnome-shell | nullbyte
[14:17] <soreau> axisys: oh my
[14:17] <zhaojiaming> i 'sorry
[14:18] <soreau> axisys: not sure that's the right thing to do then
[14:18] <axisys> soreau: I will say no for now :-)
[14:18] <soreau> axisys: Well if you reboot, network-manager should start automatically
[14:20] <nobody18288181> is there a bug in xubuntu 14.10 for laptops where brightness control does not work at all?
[14:21] <zhsj> nobody18288181, i find it become dark when i logout
[14:21] <cfhowlett> jimmy51v_, shouldn't time out.  direct feedback to stderror or run you r script in verbose mode?
[14:21] <Ryvius> Am I supposed to have the service gdm?
[14:21] <virtual_noob> Hi... linux noob here. I am learning linux commands and I came across cp command.. now there is a cp -a and there is a cp -rP... I was thinking what is the difference between theses two as both copy all of the content to the destination same to same.
[14:22] <nobody18288181> zhsj: brightness control for me doesnt work at all
[14:22] <jimmy51v_> cfhowlett: i pipe everything to a log file (stdout and stderr).  log stops at the apt msg saying setting up package... and that package never finishes
[14:22] <Pici> virtual_noob: Have you read the cp manpage?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> virtual_noob, read about it from terminal with this command:  man cp
[14:23] <cfhowlett> jimmy51v_, is the package / repo available is my first thought but I'm not a script/bash programmer or debugger.  sorry.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> virtual_noob  or try cp --help
[14:24] <jimmy51v_> cfhowlett: hehe.  yeah, it's available.  i can install the package fine from the CLI.  i've installed/uninstalled it so many times testing I think I'm getting into a bad state
[14:24] <zhaojiaming> who am i
[14:24] <cfhowlett> jimmy51v_, over my paygrade, I'm afraid.  ask #bash?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> zhaojiaming, /whoami        is the correct command
[14:25] <soreau> What's the deal with us.archive.ubuntu.com ipv6 servers being so slow to respond?
[14:25] <neoark> anyone know how long till linux-generic-lts-utopic shows up in trusty/
[14:26] <cfhowlett> soreau, too many impatient/silly people who want to download but are too lazy to torrent
[14:26] <soreau> cfhowlett: torrent apt-get update?
[14:26] <virtual_noob> yeah I have tried cp --help and man cp but things there are a bit complex for me to understand... for example the first command there is -a -> same as preserve all... now the problem is that I do not know what preserve all is... I was reading these commands from http://linoxide.com/linux-command/linux-cp-command/ and this question popped to my head
[14:27] <cfhowlett> soreau, nope.  clean install. no reason you need to update immediately, right?
[14:27] <soreau> What's the deal with us.archive.ubuntu.com ipv6 servers being so slow to respond when trying to install software using apt?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> neoark, it's a backport.  it'll be available on duke nukem time "when it's done".
[14:27] <Pici> virtual_noob: look further down in the manpage. It describes what the --perserve switch does.
[14:28] <cfhowlett> soreau, same same.  all those upgraders hitting the servers because there's a new version
[14:28] <soreau> oh is there a new version out?
[14:29] <Pici> soreau: 14.10 was released yesterday.  Seems to be the least anticipated release ever though :/
[14:29] <soreau> Pici: I see
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Pici, LTS only.
[14:30] <cfhowlett> :)
[14:30] <soreau> 14.04 was a bit of a plateau I guess
[14:30] <EiriksHDD> Can someone tell me how to switch from my built in display to show the same display that is on my TV so I can rearrange things on the TV and then go back to the built in display?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> virtual_noob  if you're a beginner, you shouldnt focus too hard on options for cp
[14:32] <EiriksHDD> I have it hooked up, but I can't switch my built in display to what it shows on my TV to rearrange windows on it
[14:32] <axisys> soreau: so needs a network-manager start followed by a reboot for network to work.. yikes!
[14:33] <DIPISTER> can bleachbit go to far? Had tmp file permmission deynied error 13.. ran root..
[14:33] <soreau> axisys: It should already work now
[14:33] <axisys> soreau: I have to manually start it after reboot
[14:34] <Ryvius> Okay guys I found the problem. k1l and cfhowlett if you're interested
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, do tell
[14:34] <DIPISTER> interested
[14:34] <axisys> soreau: something broke with the upgrade
[14:34] <soreau> axisys: And the only interface set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces is lo?
[14:34] <axisys> soreau: yes
[14:34] <Ryvius> AMD's driver only supports X server up to 1.15, and the ubuntu update upgraded it to 1.16. Must be that
[14:35] <EiriksHDD> Can anyone here help me with my multiple display questions?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, sounds like.  as I said, amd (FINALLY!) realized they should support linux more actively.  *BUT* they will only do so going forward.   expect no backported drivers.  even INTEL finally released a native driver and, of course, Nvidia has been doing so for years.
[14:36] <virtual_noob> monkeydust: I thought if I could learn and remember what every command does, I would learn fast and actually understand what is going on. I am taking introduction to linux course on edx and came across these commands. Wouldn't it help if I get most of everything instead of just reading on and on?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> 32009-1045709
[14:36] <soreau> axisys: yea something isn't right. I'd try sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get install network-manager
[14:36] <axisys> soreau: something with this probably
[14:36] <axisys> soreau: kernel: [  215.132498] init: modemmanager main process ended, respawning
[14:36] <Ryvius> cfhowlett: Indeed my next card shall be.... nVidia
[14:37] <Ryvius> I wonder if AMD's APUs have same problems..? Probably..
[14:37] <crocket> Where can I get netboot isos?
[14:37] <erol007> hi
[14:37] <Ryvius> So uh, any way to change to the open source driver through terminal?
[14:38] <genii> crocket: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[14:38] <axisys> dbus[661]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager' failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
[14:38] <axisys> soreau: ^
[14:38] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, eh, not so fast there bucky.  I've been booting the laptops at my computer stores with my ubuntu USB --- that intel is looking better and better.  at least on the Lenovo x1 carbon.
[14:38] <genii> crocket: ( assuming 64bit cpu in this case)
[14:38] <sacarlson> crocket: it used to be a part of the standard iso distrubution
[14:38] <crocket> genii, That's utopic.
[14:38] <Ryvius> cfhowlett: But Intel doesnt make proper graphics
[14:38] <Flavio-ubuntu> Hello everyone!
[14:39] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, ... yet
[14:39] <crocket> Is mini.iso the netboot iso?
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> virtual_noob  i guess it slows down the process, if you want to know every option of every command
[14:39] <Flavio-ubuntu> Anyone good with boot problems? slow boots i mean
[14:39] <genii> crocket: You can navigate to whatever one you need from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[14:39] <crocket> genii, Is it?
[14:40] <OerHeks> crocket, no, but you need internet to install any desktop
[14:40] <genii> crocket: Yes, that is the iso file you put on the PXE server
[14:40] <crocket> genii : yay!!!
[14:40] <ahoneybun> is anyoneusing polari?
[14:40] <Flavio-ubuntu> my booting process, when checking dmesg, gets stuck to the activity: random: nonblocing pool is initialized
[14:40] <Flavio-ubuntu> any suggestion?
[14:41] <sacarlson> crocket: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[14:41] <genii> crocket: The boot.img.tz is the initrd which should also be put on the server and set to be what the client gets sent
[14:41] <nobody18288181> to update; it looks like the backlight did not work because there was a missing intel x.org.confd configuration file. Once I added that file i was able to control the backlight
[14:41] <soreau> axisys: Do you have any pending updates? Are you able to complete 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' ok?
[14:42] <nobody18288181> pretty much this http://askubuntu.com/questions/450131/make-xconf-configuration-permanent
[14:42] <uriandwubber> hi guys
[14:42] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, did you get an answer?
[14:42] <Ryvius> cfhowlett: About how to change driver? Nope
[14:42] <Flavio-ubuntu> my booting process, when checking dmesg, gets stuck to the activity: random: nonblocking pool is initialized. Does anyone know why? ubuntu 14.10 fresh install.
[14:42] <k1l> Ryvius: remove the fglrx. then it should autoload the free one
[14:43] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, yes you can configure driver with the terminal.  boot into terminal mode, set it up, then startx ( I think) for your gui
[14:44] <Guest2553> hello
[14:44] <Ryvius> apt-get remove fglrx ?
[14:44] <soreau> Ryvius: Yea, remove the proprietary driver packages (or use the remove script in /usr/share/ati/ if installed manually) then reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri and -glx
[14:44] <cfhowlett> Ryvius, I've NO experience with AMD.  ask someone else in channel.  sorry.
[14:45] <k1l> Ryvius: give it a go.
[14:45] <Tim100> .
[14:45] <virtual_noob> MonkeyDust: yeah it does actually... so what do you suggest? I feel something is missing if I move on without knowing everything about something....
[14:45] <Guest2553> what is this channel for?
[14:45] <k1l> Ryvius: i am not familiar with amd since i only have integrated intel video.
[14:45] <Flavio-ubuntu> ----------------------------------------------->>>>my booting process, when checking dmesg, gets stuck to the activity: random: nonblocking pool is initialized. Does anyone know why? ubuntu 14.10 fresh install.
[14:45] <soreau> Ryvius: apt-get remove fglrx*
[14:45] <k1l> Guest2553: technical ubuntu support. see /topic
[14:45] <soreau> Ryvius: apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> virtual_noob  start with the basics, learn and focus on what you actually *need*, first
[14:46] <Ryvius> soreau: Doesn't seem to be any scripts in that /ati/ location
[14:46] <soreau> Ryvius: apt-get remove fglrx* && apt-get autoremove
[14:48] <leonardo_> +X
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> virtual_noob  expore the options for apt-get and apt-cache, first
[14:49] <Pessimist> 14.10 runs systemd as init daemon? did canonical fully replace upstart in 14.10?
[14:49] <Flavio-ubuntu> ----------------------------------------------->>>>my booting process, when checking dmesg, gets stuck to the activity: random: nonblocking pool is initialized. Does anyone know why? ubuntu 14.10 fresh install.
[14:50] <Pessimist> Flavio-ubuntu, is your hdd encrypted?
[14:50] <Flavio-ubuntu> Hello Pessimist, no it is not
[14:51] <crocket> genii : packer only delivers an ISO file to a VM.
[14:52] <nicholasalipaz> Pessimist: are you sure upstart is not on 14.10?
[14:52] <nicholasalipaz> that sounds odd
[14:52] <nicholasalipaz> Seems like they just finished making a full replacement in 14.04
[14:52] <sacarlson> Pessimist: my guess is no they won't completely move to systemd . it would be the package maintainers to move to it if needed
[14:52] <EiriksHDD> Can anyone here help me with my multiple display questions, please?
[14:53] <k1l> Pessimist: nicholasalipaz no. you are wrong
[14:53] <diegoaguilar> what's best alternative for a firewall having a reliability - easy setup balance?
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> EiriksHDD  start with a question
[14:53] <somsip> !ufw | diegoaguilar
[14:53] <EiriksHDD> I have it hooked up, but I can't switch my built in display to what it shows on my TV to rearrange windows on it
[14:53] <EiriksHDD> How do I do that?
[14:53] <axisys> soreau: followed the remove and reinstall network-manager and rebooted .. still network-manager does not start automatically
[14:53] <k1l> Pessimist: nicholasalipaz its still upstart as init. its just that systemd ate a lot of other starting projects like logind and  they are pulled out of systemd and made working with upstart.
[14:54] <soreau> axisys: I think you're right, something is wrong with dbus
[14:54] <k1l> Pessimist: nicholasalipaz but they are named systemd-logind. but dont mix it with systemd as pid1
[14:54] <axisys> soreau: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade this went through fine.. no new upgrade
[14:54] <Ryvius> But soreau I didn't install it through the package manager
[14:54] <k1l> Pessimist: nicholasalipaz so better make a research before you claim stuff like that
[14:54] <axisys> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8656998/
[14:55] <Ryvius> soreau: And there is no uninstall script in /ati/
[14:55] <axisys> soreau: then I do the network-manager start manually ..
[14:55] <nicholasalipaz> k1l: I am pretty sure I phrase my sentence as a question, since Pessimist said it was gone
[14:55] <nicholasalipaz> k1l: I did not claim anything
[14:56] <nicholasalipaz> Pessimist said that it was gone, so I asked him if he was sure.
[14:56] <diegoaguilar> somsip, installing iptable automatically disables any ufw config?
[14:56] <EiriksHDD> My goal is to have 2 firefox windows sitting next to each other, so I can watch the markets charts on my TV, I am only able to watch the 15 min charts atm, I want the 15 and 5 minute charts side by side.
[14:56] <soreau> Ryvius: Then just try 'apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx xserver-xorg-core'
[14:56] <anony_> whats the best linux os for a http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-110-3104sa-Netbook-battery-Windows/dp/B00440D8WE
[14:56] <Pessimist> I didn't say it was gone, I just saw systemd-logind issuing some logs on boot and I thought to ask if systemd replaced upstart in 14.10
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> diegoaguilar  ufw helps configure iptables
[14:56] <somsip> diegoaguilar: I believe they work with each other, but don't know which one takes precedence so you will need to research more
[14:57] <k1l> nicholasalipaz: ok. then sorry. i read it as claim upstart is gone
[14:57] <anony_> everytime i download the new lubunto or any linux it just loads a dash line ive tried loads of diffrent usb bootable programs
[14:57] <diegoaguilar> Im using Ubuntu server btw
[14:57] <anony_> im running lubuntu 10.04 an di need the new lubuntu
[14:57] <nicholasalipaz> k1l: but that makes sense it is still there for sure.  I wouldn't think they would remove it, especially since so many projects integrate with it.
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> anony_  for a start: it's lubuntu, not lubunto
[14:57] <TheYoshiDesu> Hey guys, i need help with my Huawei e5776 4g donggle. I cant connect to the internet via usb cable ._.
[14:58] <nicholasalipaz> I recently installed plex ubuntu installer on crunchbang and had to install upstart to get it working for example.
[14:58] <k1l> nicholasalipaz: the target for the switch is 16.04. it will be integrated step by step but it needs a lot of work to be standard
[14:58] <anony_> MonkeyDust: I've tried loads of dirrent OS and diffrent boot tools and everytime it just loads a blinking dash line, But lubuntu 10.04 worked fine
[14:59] <nicholasalipaz> k1l: good to know about the full replacement timeline
[14:59] <nicholasalipaz> thanks
[14:59] <nicholasalipaz> k1l++
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> anony_  unfortunately, 10.04 is no longer supported... it works, but you won't find help if you get into trouble with it
[14:59] <anony_> MonkeyDust: thats why i want to get the new lubuntu
[14:59] <Ryvius> soreau: Sorry I tried the first one anyways, it found and uninstalled it. It booted successfully now, thanks a lot
[15:00] <anony_> but everytime i try to install is just loads a blinking line theres diffrent downloads like i38 or amd
[15:00] <anony_> my computer http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-110-3104sa-Netbook-battery-Windows/dp/B00440D8WE
[15:00] <soreau> Rylee: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'? (after installing mesa-utils package)
[15:00] <Rylee> dunno, my boxes are all headless
[15:00] <Ryvius> ... ahah.
[15:01] <Ryvius> Um I dont think I got any mesa installed
[15:01] <eamonnw> I want to run another instance of bind
[15:01] <Flavio-ubuntu> Pessimist: any other thought about my problem?
[15:01] <eamonnw> has to be a new process
[15:01] <anony_> MonkeyDust
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> anony_
[15:02] <Ryvius> I am getting a mesa renderer from that command though
[15:02] <anony_> can anyone link me a OS for http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-110-3104sa-Netbook-battery-Windows/dp/B00440D8WE
[15:02] <anony_> that will work and wont boot a dash line just loading
[15:03] <sacarlson> eamonnw: another instance on another machine?
[15:03] <eamonnw> sacarlson: same machine
[15:03] <Pessimist> Flavio-ubuntu, no. I know I get that message from the kernel when I start entering my password for my encrypted partition on boot
[15:03] <soreau> axisys: Can you hastebin.com your /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.conf file?
[15:04] <sacarlson> eamonnw: I think bind auto attaches to all nics in standard install
[15:04] <eamonnw> sacarlson: i guess i could docker it
[15:04] <Flavio-ubuntu> Pessimist: thanks anyway :)
[15:04] <Ryvius> Well I'm going out, thanks again soreau and others. A reinstall would have been horrible
[15:04] <soreau> RyanKnack: What was the mesa renderer string? :P
[15:05] <soreau> Ryvius: ^^
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> anony_  this is the ubuntu channel; maybe you find advice in ##linux
[15:05] <Ryvius> Uhh it gives a lot of stuff
[15:05] <Ryvius> GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent
[15:05] <soreau> Ryvius: hastebin.com
[15:05] <anony_> monkeydust how do i find that
[15:05] <soreau> Ryvius: Just looking for the Renderer string
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> anony_  type /j ##linux
[15:05] <Ryvius> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CAPE VERDE
[15:06] <soreau> yea
[15:06] <lancelot_of> hi there
[15:06] <Ryvius> Is that good or bad?
[15:06] <soreau> Ryvius: Ok, it's working with mesa open drivers (3D hw accel is working)
[15:06] <Ryvius> Hurray, so I can still play games. Steam gave a warning about opengl though
[15:06] <lancelot_of> which are the power manager tools loaded by lightdm for unity in ubuntu 14.04?
[15:07] <lancelot_of> i'd like to have brightness keys an volume control keys working on another wm (fluxbox) as they are funny on unity...
[15:07] <Ryvius> Yeah Steam dont want to start left4 dead, there is trouble with opengl
[15:07] <cfhowlett> anony_, we told you how to do that ...
[15:07] <lancelot_of> please help
[15:08] <Ryvius> "Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated"
[15:08] <Ryvius> .... any ideas to that, soreau ?
[15:09] <soreau> Ryvius: It's something to do with 32 vs 64 bit IIRC
[15:09] <soreau> Ryvius: I think you need to install i386 mesa packages or something
[15:09] <linuxuz3r> amazon stock is down ;(
[15:10] <soreau> Ryvius: Maybe try #15 here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1459756#p1459756
[15:11] <soreau> Ryvius: You can also run it through strace to get an idea of what might be going on
[15:12] <lancelot_of> no answers for me?
[15:12] <crocket> Wow
[15:13] <soreau> lancelot_of: power manager tools? Maybe try explaining what you're trying to do exactly
[15:14] <anony_> monkeydust how do i add linux server to this
[15:15] <lancelot_of> soreau, in unity brightness control keys and volume control keys works perfectly. Moreover power management works, for example, suspending when battery is critical. I'd like to know which scripts those services point to, being able to call the under fluxbox session
[15:15] <TooLmaN> MonkeyDust, Got it working.  I ran 'apt-get -f install' and it corrected grub and other support packages.  Odd that the upgrade script prompted me to reboot without a bootloader ready.  Thanks again
[15:16] <skies912> hello?
[15:16] <Flavio-ubuntu> ----------------------------------------------->>>>my booting process, when checking dmesg, gets stuck to the activity: random: nonblocking pool is initialized. Does anyone know why? ubuntu 14.10 fresh install.
[15:16] <skies912> Can anyone here help me with a kernel panic?
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> TooLmaN  glad you made it, thumbs up
[15:17] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: Try reinstalling?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> anony_  link server to what?
[15:17] <Guest94602> nvidia gpu has nvidia-current package, what does ati have ?
[15:17] <Flavio-ubuntu> Hi soreau, I have tried that twice :(
[15:17] <lancelot_of> soreau, was i clear?
[15:17] <soreau> Guest94602: fglrx
[15:17] <Guest94602> soreau, cool, thank you
[15:17] <soreau> lancelot_of: Yes, if anyone knows the answer, they will most likely reply
[15:18] <sacarlson> skies912: wrong platform maybe, x86,  amd64....
[15:18] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: Are you formatting the disk? Does it work ok live? Have you verified the install medium has the correct checksum?
[15:19] <skies912> I am using PXELinux to boot a customized ubuntu, the msg is.. Kernel panic: not syncing : attempted to kill init!
[15:19] <Flavio-ubuntu> I created the disk with the live usb, through gparted, and then during installation i selcted the hard disk
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> skies912  we cannot support any customized ubuntu, we don't what you changed and how
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> we don't know*
[15:20] <Flavio-ubuntu> I could try and see the dmesg of a live usb boot
[15:20] <lancelot_of> can anyone help me?
[15:20] <Flavio-ubuntu> I did memtest, and all was fine
[15:20] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: Do you have another machine to re-flash the usb stick?
[15:20] <knightfelt> With what Lancelot?
[15:20] <squinty> lancelot_of:  dpkg -l | grep -i power    or   aptitude search power | grep "i  "   will show installed packages related to power
[15:20] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: Or another stick to flash using the live session
[15:21] <sacarlson> skies912: I'm not sure if that may be a failure to mount something or not
[15:21] <lancelot_of> squinty, under unity or fluxbox?
[15:21] <Flavio-ubuntu> I can try and use a different usb, but not a different machine.
[15:21] <skies912> it did say "init Not tainted 3.0.0-datto10huge #3"
[15:22] <soreau> lancelot_of: dpkg and apt* typically work regardless of gui stuff
[15:22] <Flavio-ubuntu> soreau: does this problem happen a lot?
[15:23] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: Any number of scenarios can cause a bad installation medium, bad iso download, bad burn, burned before download completed, etc
[15:23] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: It's not terribly uncommon
[15:23] <sacarlson> skies912: did the original kernel boot ok with your present pxe setup?
[15:24] <skies912> yeah, I used the release build of ubunutu 14.04
[15:24] <lancelot_of> squinty, there are a lot, how can i check which one are loaded when unity starts up?
[15:24] <Flavio-ubuntu> and the "nonblocking pool initialized " is an indicator of bad installation? Is it supposed to be there at all'
[15:24] <Flavio-ubuntu> ?
[15:24] <lancelot_of> squinty, for example, gnome-power-manager is not callable by command-line...
[15:25] <sacarlson> skies912: then my guess is you don't have some needed module compiled and active
[15:25] <sacarlson> skies912: did you try use the same config file from the ubuntu kernel to build your custom and just modify from that?
[15:26] <neoark> anyone know how long till linux-generic-lts-utopic shows up in trusty ?
[15:27] <Flavio-ubuntu> soreau: is the "nonblocking pool initialized " is an indicator of bad installation? Is it supposed to be there at all'
[15:27] <Flavio-ubuntu> ?
[15:27] <sacarlson> neoark: I guess it's realeased so you could try just pull it in and try it.  not sure what problems that might cause
[15:28] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: That could be a misnomer; the last message that happens to appear before the nest task, which is actually the problem (for example)
[15:28] <soreau> s/nest/next/
[15:28] <neoark> sacarlson its only on ppa
[15:29] <neoark> not released in packages
[15:29] <lancelot_of> ok i try to re-modulate the question: why under unity brightness control keys, volume control keys and suspend when battery is critical work perfectly and the same does not happen under fluxbox??Which scripts/commands by command line should i call? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and Dell XPS 13 Sputnik 3
[15:29] <Flavio-ubuntu> soreau: the last message before it is 5.456439] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process (387) terminated with status 1 [    5.457595] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process ended, respawning
[15:29] <sacarlson> neoark: you mean it's like backported on ppa?  no reason you can't just copy the deb from 14.10 and try it
[15:30] <sacarlson> neoark: if it's backported on ppa then even better
[15:30] <neoark> bleh not fan of deb headache to keep it up updated
[15:30] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: I wouldn't waste too much time trying to figure out what went wrong, I'd just start by verifying the downloaded image md5sum is correct and subsequently, the usb device image
[15:30] <soreau> !md5sum | Flavio-ubuntu
[15:31] <neoark> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/trusty/main/base/linux-generic-lts-utopic
[15:33] <cfhowlett> Flavio-ubuntu, I never download anymore.  too many errors.  torrent almost always runs perfectly.
[15:36] <Flavio-ubuntu> ok terminal returned a string: 08494b448aa5b1de963731c21344f803 and i compared it to this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.10/MD5SUMS
[15:36] <Flavio-ubuntu> and they match
[15:37] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: You should be able to do the same on the /dev/sdb1 device (or whatever it is)
[15:37] <soreau> s/device/node/
[15:37] <Flavio-ubuntu> soreau: I am using unetbootin to put it on usb
[15:39] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: When you plug the usb stick into a running linux system, it should create a device node file in /dev/
[15:41] <Flavio-ubuntu> soreau: it is sdb1
[15:42] <soreau> Flavio-ubuntu: So run md5sum /dev/sdb1
[15:43] <EriC^^> won't that do the md5sum for the individual files?
[15:44] <Timvde> Hi. I just upgraded my trusty to utopic, and now sudo apt-get update hangs on "Connecting to be.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18)". Is this a temporary problem on Ubuntu's side, or did something go wrong?
[15:44] <Timvde> (I guess it's the first one btw)
[15:44] <EriC^^> Timvde: try a different server maybe
[15:45] <Timvde> EriC^^: Oh, that's probably a good idea, lol. Didn't think about that :D
[15:45] <cfhowlett> Timvde, better yet, localize your server.
[15:46] <EiriksHDD> How do i fullscreen an app that on a second monitor?
[15:46] <Timvde> Heh, cool, Ubuntu provides "Select best server" :)
[15:46] <cfhowlett> Timvde, took me years to find that trick ...
[15:46] <EriC^^> EiriksHDD: move your mouse to the other monitor, and maximize it
[15:47] <Timvde> cfhowlett: Well, I've been using Ubuntu since 2008, so it sort of took me years, too ;)
[15:47] <EiriksHDD> EriC^^, Thank you :D
[15:47] <Flavio-ubuntu> soreau: my usb returns nothing.. on the usb i dont have the iso, i have the extracted files, like boot folder etc...
[15:48] <EriC^^> EiriksHDD: no problem
[15:48] <EriC^^> Flavio-ubuntu: i don't think you can md5sum an extracted iso, if you wanna go anal on this you can use the built-in integrity check when you boot the live usb
[15:48] <Lucax> what does it mean to run the cli/gui?
[15:48] <Timvde> *sigh*, now it's stuck at "Connecting to archive.canonical.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::16)" :(
[15:49] <Flavio-ubuntu> Eric^^: i did that, and integrity is ok
[15:50] <soreau> Timvde: Apparently that's because 14.10 was just released and servers are slammed
[15:50] <Timvde> soreau: Yea, I sort of expected that that could be the case :)
[15:50] <Timvde> But thanks for confirmation
[15:50] <Flavio-ubuntu> so: I just tried something crazy. I went to etc/init/ and found the plymouth-upstart-bridge file and erased it. i will now reboot. pray for me.
[15:51] <Flavio-ubuntu> I will be back soon hopefully
[15:51] <soreau> heh
[15:52] <axisys> soreau: sorry was on the phone
[15:52] <axisys> soreau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8657659/
[15:53] <soreau> axisys: looks sane, I'm not sure what's wrong
[15:53] <axisys> soreau: permission looks right?
[15:53] <axisys> soreau: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7353 Oct 15 12:43 /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.conf
[15:54] <soreau> axisys: yes
[15:54] <Lucax> how does a basic pip install procedure look like?
[15:55] <axisys> dbus[661]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager' failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
[15:55] <axisys> soreau: ^
[15:55] <axisys>  <error> [1414159787.512972] [nm-dns-dnsmasq.c:396] update(): dnsmasq owner not found on bus: Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.dnsmasq': no such name
[15:55] <soreau> hmm
[15:55] <Flavio-ubuntu> alright im back. plymouth is not there anymore, but "random: nonblocking pool initialized" is still there
[15:55] <Flavio-ubuntu> creating problems
[15:56] <Lucax> I want to install blockify, it says to clone the repository which I did sucessfully, then it says to run either the cli/gui which I am to new to know what means or to use pip install directly which is a procedure I am not familiar with yet, any hints?
[15:56] <soreau> hm
[15:56] <soreau> axisys: Do you have dnsmasq package installed?
[15:56] <wayneman> can anyone help me with cross compilation for arm? or wrong channel
[15:57] <axisys> soreau: I have dnsmasq-base only
[15:57] <lancelot_of> no answers for me?
[15:57] <axisys> out of the three available ones
[15:57] <axisys> soreau: dnsmasq        dnsmasq-base   dnsmasq-utils
[15:58] <NJ_sysadmin> hello everyone
[15:58] <NJ_sysadmin> Can someone please assist me with an Ubuntu networking issue?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> !ask | NJ_sysadmin,
[15:59] <fajung> I need help, I upgrade ubuntu 14.04 to .0
[15:59] <knightfelt> What's the problem NJ?
[15:59] <fajung> 10 and now I have no unity
[16:00] <fajung> or compuiz
[16:00] <cfhowlett> fajung, how did you upgrade?
[16:01] <fajung> when the pc started up it showed a popup to ypgrade
[16:01] <axisys> soreau: may be I need to tell systemd to start NetworkManager?
[16:01] <axisys> systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service ?
[16:01] <NJ_sysadmin> I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 and now having intermittent connectivity issues to a single host. Pings work ok but SSH,telnet, mysql connections frequently time out. tcpdump host x and host y shows incorrect checksums on the problem machine (x)
[16:01] <fajung> I reinstalled unity unity-2d and unutntu/desktop but nothing changed
[16:02] <Lucax> should the buildup of directories in terminal equal the filemanager?
[16:03] <drmagoo> does anyboody know a good gui/webui for iptables? Something that allows you to manage both rules and logs in one interface... I've checked fwbuilder out, but it does seem to be able handle the logs in the same ui.
[16:03] <m3k> i hate ubuntu
[16:03] <knightfelt> NJ_sysadmin: How intermitten?
[16:03] <NJ_sysadmin> clean install
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> drmagoo  try fwbuilder
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> drmagoo  apologies, i didnt finish reading your line
[16:05] <drmagoo> MonkeyDust: np =)
[16:05] <ubuntu> yss
[16:05] <NJ_sysadmin> random. We have mysql checks running at :15 and :45 as a keep alive script and they fail randomly. Sometimes manually connecting ssh or telnet to 3306 fails 2 or three times and then finally connects
[16:05] <ubuntu> hi guysss
[16:07] <knightfelt> NJ_sysadmin: It doesn't seem like the checksum problem is indicative of anything. The checksums are calulated on the NIC before they go out on the wire so it's normal to see checksum errors with things like tcpdump or wireshark.
[16:08] <d3vz3r0> does anyone know where i can find info (or how to) do a preseed and install from a local mirror instead of using the packages on the install CD?
[16:09] <d3vz3r0> i've set the various mirror/http/* settings in the preseed, but it's still installing the initial packages from the disk
[16:10] <NJ_sysadmin> understood. This only started happening after the upgrade to 14.04. The NIC is e1000e. Could it be a driver issue?
[16:12] <OerHeks> ah e1000 nic, sounds like the usual issue
[16:13] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1124040
[16:13] <Flavio-ubuntu> --------------------------------------------------------->>>>  here is the forum thread i just opened http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249763&p=13150835#post13150835
[16:14] <anuvrat> having problems connecting my kindle to ubuntu 14 here is my syslog https://dpaste.de/WYZN
[16:14] <anuvrat> ubuntu 14.04 that is
[16:14] <ksbalaji> Help! I've screwed up my USB boot drive inadvertently I've removed a few maybe boot file /s which ones I don't know.  I'm getting error ..can't mount on cow..
[16:15] <OerHeks> anuvrat, Have you installed the mtpfs and mtpfs-tools packages? Those are necessary.
[16:18] <ksbalaji> Error > sda0 can't mount on cow
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> that was firestarter blocking my connection
[16:20] <EriC^^> ksbalaji: try to milk it, maybe?
[16:22] <ksbalaji> EriC^^, in Ubuntu channel or elsewhere?
[16:22] <xcode> ls
[16:22] <EriC^^> in ##cowmilking , doh.
[16:23] <squinty> ksbalaji:  why not just redo the usb... simple enough  :)
[16:23] <cfhowlett> ksbalaji, start over, make a new one
[16:24] <nusr> what network monitoring tools are there in ubuntu? i want to scan my ports from another kali machine
[16:25] <knightfelt> nuser: You're looking for something like nmap
[16:26] <ksbalaji> squinty, cfhowlett, easy way to do this?
[16:26] <anuvrat> OerHeks: mtpfs is installed
[16:26] <nusr> knightfelt: i was going to use nmap on kali to scan ubuntu..should i install nmap on ubuntu too? what about others?
[16:27] <zedr> hello why does "groups" and "groups myuser" list different group entries
[16:27] <cfhowlett> ksbalaji, download iso.  start ubuntu-startupdisk-creator.  profit
[16:27] <knightfelt> nuser: If you want to scan Ubuntu from Kali, you don't need anything installed on the ubuntu machine. You just run the scan from Kali
[16:27] <EriC^^> nusr: nmap is pretty much the best, hands-down.
[16:28] <dane> привет
[16:28] <dane> есть рускоговорящие?
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[16:28] <nusr> knightfelt: but i'd like to see from the ubuntu perspective when i am doing the scanning active and passive..what tools will pick up what
[16:28] <ksbalaji> cfhowlett,now I'm on an android only.
[16:29] <squinty> ksbalaji:  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  and/or  pendrivelinux.com  for alternate apps and tutorials
[16:29] <knightfelt> nuser: What kind of info are you looking for? If you want simple traffic information you could user something like wireshark to observe what's happening
[16:29] <Loshki> zedr: mine are the same, as long as "myuser" is the same name...
[16:30] <cfhowlett> ksbalaji, get thee hence to a proper computer.  you *can* use android for booting - maybe.  outside of my experience but look it up.
[16:30] <nusr> knightfelt: thanks, i'll start with wireshark and nmap on ubuntu
[16:31] <NJ_sysadmin> Thank you oerherks and Knight. The 82574L driver needs updating directly from Intel. I will try that first.
[16:31] <knightfelt> nuser: let me know if you have any trouble with them.
[16:31] <ksbalaji> cfhowlett, I shall try
[16:32] <nusr> knightfelt: will do. thank you
[16:32] <Guest51378> i cant get the games work at all
[16:33] <Guest51378> im on linux lite
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Guest51378, ??? questions without details = answers without meaning.
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Guest51378, ah,  OK.
[16:34] <cfhowlett> Guest51378, sorry, but linuxlite is not an ubuntu supported distro.  ask linuxlite for assistance.  (or install ubuntu)
[16:34] <nusr> knightfelt: i'm going to hail mary with armitage on my ubuntu to see if it gets through, so i want something to monitor the traffic
[16:34] <Guest51378> please tell how to get games for this
[16:34] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[16:34] <cfhowlett> Guest51378, linuxlite IS NOT supported here.
[16:35] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a way to move the window buttons to the right in Unity?
[16:35] <Guest51378> ok
[16:35] <xangua> CountryfiedLinux: no
[16:35] <CountryfiedLinux> ok thanks xangua
[16:35] <ksbalaji> since my pc has failed with a spoiled USN,I'm left with this android somehow to repair the usb.
[16:36] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  I'm trying to run OSSPD to get a true /dev/dsp.  It works fine in Trusty but not in Utopic, where I get "CUSE: failed to register chrdev region".  Is this a bug I need to report?
[16:36] <knightfelt> nuser: Then wireshark is what you're looking for. Let me also see if there is anything else that you might want. I know there is also something called htop I think it was that shows you network connections to your machine in the same way top does currently.
[16:36] <knightfelt> Watching both of those would give you good insight into what's happening on the network
[16:37] <nusr> knightfelt: thanks. yes. something like top for networks would be great. i'll check out htop
[16:37] <knightfelt> nuser: You could also install some stuff that would show you if anybody is trying to gain access with something (I think!) was called tripwire
[16:37] <squinty> ksbalaji:  might also want to sound out the rascals in #ubuntu-touch.  if installing ubuntu to android device (such as google nexus 7 for example) then you might want to explore using ubuntu touch release
[16:38] <ksbalaji> what does (initramfs ) Killed  can not mount /dev/sda2  on /cow mean?
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> ksbalaji  cow means check On Write, iirc
[16:39] <knightfelt> nuser: Snort is another one
[16:40] <jke63> ciao, qualcuno sa dirmi come posso disabilitare la scheda wifi del mio netbook samsung
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !it
[16:40] <jke63> #ubuntu-it
[16:41] <ksbalaji> squinty, I just want to repair my usb Ubuntu drive using the android, which is the only connection to the net for me now
[16:41] <knightfelt> nuser: Sorry my mistake. it's not htop, it's ntop
[16:42] <anuvrat> unable to mount my kindle on ubuntu 14.04 ... posted it on askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/541084/unable-to-mount-kindle-on-ubunut-14-04/541086#541086
[16:43] <AndroUser> Hi
[16:43] <knightfelt> Hi
[16:44] <will> hey everyone. I uninstalled a package with --purge autoremove, and it uninstalled dependencies that I can no longer resolve. how can I undo this
[16:44] <AndroUser> Hello
[16:44] <knightfelt> will: What are you trying to run that's failing?
[16:45] <cfhowlett> ksbalaji, http://www.addictivetips.com/android/boot-run-linux-distros-on-your-pc-from-an-android-device-with-drivedroid/
[16:45] <will> vlc
[16:45] <squinty> ksbalaji:  that is why I suggest sounding out the people in ubuntu-touch (or android channel too) to see if they can recommend an android based usb iso creator.  did a quick google here but nothing jumps out at me at the moment
[16:45] <will> knightfelt: vlc
[16:46] <AndroUser> Hi
[16:47] <ksbalaji> squinty,  cfhowlett, thanks.  I shall try.
[16:48] <knightfelt> This command will reinstall vlc along with any missing dependencies: apt-get install --reinstall vlc
[16:48] <knightfelt> will: That was for you
[16:48] <squinty> ksbalaji:  http://softwarebakery.com/projects/drivedroid    there does seem to apps available
[16:49] <will> knightfelt: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[16:49] <will> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[16:49] <will> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[16:49] <will> or been moved out of Incoming.
[16:49] <will> The following information may help resolve the situation:
[16:49] <will> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:49] <unopaste> will you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:51] <will> knightfelt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8658395/
[16:51] <will> knightfelt: no dice. that was the output
[16:51] <nusr> knightfelt: got it. ntop. thank you.
[16:52] <knightfelt> nuser: look at snort too. it's an intrusion detection system and it'll let you know what is Kali is doing to your Ubuntu machine.
[16:53] <knightfelt> will: have you tried a simple apt-get update?
[16:53] <will> yes i did. i did it alone and with && upgrade
[16:54] <will> knightfelt: yes i did. i did it alone and with && upgrade
[16:54] <cfhowlett> will, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:54] <knightfelt> will: also try using aptitude instead of apt-get. try 'sudo aptitude install vlc' and let me know if the output is the same as before
[16:55] <will> knightfelt: ok will report back
[16:55] <scuba323> I was wondering how to add a user for SSH in connections only. And when they login it starts Weechat right away (Not giving them shell access) I want them to only use Weechat. So when the /quit it will log them out. Is this possible?
[16:56] <pushcx> I have a USB 2FA key. When I plug it in, the device /dev/hidraw2 is created but not readable by my group/user. If I 'sudo chmod o+rw /dev/hidraw2' it works great. How do I tell Ubuntu to set those perms automatically when it's connected?
[16:56] <will> knightfelt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8658469/ what should I do?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> scuba323  yes, you can add a line in .profile, so when ssh connects, it automatically runs weechat
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> scuba323  i forget the exact syntax, tho
[16:57] <TeraJL> hi there, is there any way of installing this app: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/trusty/war-in-a-box-paper-tanks/ on ubuntu 14.10? i had it on 14.04
[16:57] <scuba323> MonkeyDust: oh my goodness. I totally forgot about .profile! Could .bash_rc work too? I have it message me on XMPP when I get root
[16:57] <scuba323> or log into my VPS
[16:58] <scuba323> MonkeyDust: * or log into my VPS
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> scuba323  not sure about .bashrc
[16:58] <knightfelt> will: accept it. type y
[16:58] <scuba323> MonkeyDust: alrigh. I will give it a whirl! Thanks! :)
[16:58] <will> knightfelt: ok will report back
[16:59] <will> knightfelt: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[16:59] <will> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:59] <will> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
[17:00] <knightfelt> will: nothing happened?
[17:00] <will> knightfelt: i tried apt-get install after and it gave the same error report as before
[17:00] <will> knightfelt: should i try dis-update
[17:00] <knightfelt> will: So the aptitude command completed successfully but you still can't start vlc?
[17:00] <will> knightfelt: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i mean
[17:01] <Miauw> wth
[17:01] <will> knightfelt: i cant even install it
[17:01] <Miauw> why does ubuntu not have a proper xchat
[17:01] <Ameurux> anyone tried ATI 8xxxx series with 14.10?
[17:01] <drmagoo> how do i minimize the window titlebar? (for like a terminal) I've tried to change fontsize, but that doesnt help. any ideas?
[17:01] <knightfelt> The aptitude command should have installed it. If it finished successfully you should have vlc ready to go. You can try the dist-upgrade but I doubt it'll change much
[17:01] <nusr> someone at wireshark needs to change their help materials for ubuntu non root users
[17:02] <drmagoo> or a more accurat how do i change the height of the window titlebar.
[17:02] <Miauw> eeeck
[17:02] <Miauw> why does this suck so much
[17:02] <Miauw> where are my menus
[17:02] <knightfelt> will: that was for you, sorry
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> Miauw  did you have a proper question too.
[17:02] <Miauw> not really.
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> Miauw  this is the support channel
[17:03] <will> knightfelt: no its not installed
[17:03] <Miauw> is it possible to have connections to multiple servers in one window
[17:04] <ki7mt> What kind of connections and what type window are you referring  too ?
[17:06] <knightfelt> will: hang tight
[17:06] <will> knightfelt: rgr
[17:07] <genii> Miauw: use screen command and cycle through windows with ctrl-a n
[17:07] <scuba323> MonkeyDust: I got it! in .profile I just added weechat's bin, and hit enter then exit. When I log in it starts weechat and when I quit I am logged out. However I have a feeling this is going to cause timeouts (I think it's just logging me out from the server right away) I will google how to get it to run only if weechat is killed :) Thanks so much for the start I totally forgot about .profile :)
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> scuba323  great! glad i could help!
[17:12] <knightfelt> will: run 'sudo apt-get install vlc' and paste the output to pastebin
[17:12] <will> knightfelt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8658671/
[17:13] <OerHeks> will don't mix debian with ubuntu repos
[17:13] <cfhowlett> will whoa!   debian?
[17:13] <Ameurux> Anyone tried ati 8xxx ubuntu 14.10?
[17:13] <teward> will: what OerHeks said - NEVER mix Debian and Ubuntu repositories - things explode
[17:14] <OerHeks> bipul_, fix your connection please
[17:15] <will> Ya i dont know what I was thinking
[17:15] <will> chasing around a sick five year old right now
[17:15] <will> removing it now
[17:15] <OerHeks> take your time :-)
[17:16] <cfhowlett> will just for fun: paste you /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:17] <will> cfhowlett: rgr
[17:17] <knightfelt> will: you must have done something besides --purge. purge will only remove configuration files the program created, it shouldn't mess with dependencies. Did you run something else as well?
[17:18] <will> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8658753/
[17:18] <JCT> is there anyway to emulate true fmod instuments, not timidity++ all the time?
[17:18] <cfhowlett> will standard stuff there.  note: remastersys is abandonware ...
[17:19] <OerHeks> knightfelt, that repo failed, so removeal from the list is enough i think
[17:19] <cce_> hi guys, Im currently in the process of trying to get a reprap pro 3d printer up and running, and have just got to the stage of connecting it. I can see the controller listed when I do lsusb, however according to repraps guide, I should see a /dev/ttyUSB0, but this doesnt exist for me
[17:19] <JCT> i want to use the classic fmod instroments
[17:19] <knightfelt> will: I don't see the vlc ppa in there. Maybe adding it and reinstalling vlc will fix it
[17:20] <JCT> on default, ubuntu uses Timidity++ right?
[17:20] <JCT> thats' what supertux2 uses, right?
[17:20] <icefall5> Hey folks, I set up a user to access only its home directory via SFTP but it still has full filesystem access via FTP. How can I fix this? Full question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/539497/user-has-full-access-with-ftp-limited-access-with-sftp
[17:21] <will> knightfelt: Ok ill add the ppa and try it. I ran into this same problem. I --purge autoremove super-boot-manager and when i went to reinstall it, it said  Depends: plowshare (>= 1~svn1525) but it is not going to be installed
[17:21] <Ameurux> hi
[17:21] <will> so it seems after using that command i am now not able to reinstall programs
[17:22] <OerHeks> !ppa
[17:22] <OerHeks> why using a ppa for VLC? it is in our repos
[17:23] <knightfelt> OerHeks: I'm thinking that maybe the ppa has newer package version with newer dependencies. Maybe it'll force the system to update everything
[17:23] <knightfelt> will: I would be careful with the auto remove function. Use it sparingly
[17:23] <OerHeks> !info vlc
[17:23] <cfhowlett> will clean out your cache: sudo apt-get clean
[17:23] <OerHeks> we have a newer version than the VLC page :-D
[17:24] <knightfelt> lol
[17:24] <knightfelt> Well so much for that idea
[17:24] <Guest75398> its a preview OerHeks
[17:24] <cfhowlett> will then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:25] <icefall5> Hey folks, I set up a user to access only its home directory via SFTP but it still has full filesystem access via FTP. How can I fix this? Full question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/539497/user-has-full-access-with-ftp-limited-access-with-sftp
[17:26] <will> cfhowlett: rgr ill report back in a minute1
[17:26] <knightfelt> will: I would also try installing the dependencies explicitly like this: sudo apt-get install vlc-nox libxcb-keysyms1
[17:26] <knightfelt> maybe it'll say why they are uninstallable
[17:29] <nusr> knightfelt: i finally set up wireshark on ubuntu as non root user and ran the scan..with the amount of traffic generated by nmap or msf scan anyone looking will notice
[17:29] <scuba323> MonkeyDust: damn 2step. Security over simplicity I always say :P
[17:29] <scuba323> What's worse is the ssh key isn't working! :o
[17:30] <knightfelt> nuser: cool. When I was playing with wireshark I remember trying to get it to work with non-root user but gave up before I figured it out
[17:30] <m000gle> Following a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.10, wifi network connections via Network Manager have been working initially, but fail to reconnect either following a restart or even after manually connecting and reconnecting.
[17:30] <m000gle> When I disconnect and reconnect, I receive the following error: "(1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/5' failed in libnm-glib."
[17:30] <m000gle> Could somebody help me troubleshoot this, please?
[17:31] <nusr> knightfelt: i looked at several writeups about it...from offical to others..and i tried all..the only one that worked is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1946299   the bottom suggestion
[17:31] <topdownjimmy> I'm trying to get this working but am only receiving silence on the MacBook end: http://kaspars.net/blog/linux/stream-audio-sox-over-ssh
[17:32] <topdownjimmy> The server is *definitely* playing audio out of plughw:0,0. Anybody know what I might be doing wrong?
[17:32] <knightfelt> nuser: What does it mean "if you want to look at the USB I/Fs" ?
[17:32] <will> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8658940/ this is my update
[17:32] <wilx> I am having issus upgrading to Utopic Unicorn. I think that the "Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu" might apply to me but I have uninstalled what I thought was 3rd party. How can I find out what does the upgrade installer consider 3rd party packages?
[17:33] <alo21> hi all
[17:33] <nusr> knightfelt: it means usb captures are still not implemented for dumpcap as non root user...so you will still need root to see that..but if you are only looking at eth0 then running as normal user is ok
[17:33] <cfhowlett> will choose one or the other based on your computer
[17:33] <knightfelt> will: Can you repost your sources file?
[17:33] <alo21> hdmi audio doesn't work
[17:33] <knightfelt> nuser: Ah ok, thanks
[17:34] <alo21> I have tried some options, but they did not work
[17:34] <icefall5> (Sorry to spam, I'd just love to hear *something*!) Hey folks, I set up a user to access only its home directory via SFTP but it still has full filesystem access via FTP. How can I fix this? Full question here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/539497/user-has-full-access-with-ftp-limited-access-with-sftp
[17:35] <nusr> knightfelt: give it a go and see how much traffic is generated as a huge block with nmap or other scans.
[17:35] <Laurenceb> can anyone here help me with a simple networking problem?
[17:35] <knightfelt> Laurenceb: just ask your question, you don't need to ask permission :P
[17:35] <will> knightfelt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8658975/
[17:35] <Ameurux> Anyone tried 8xxx series with 14.10
[17:36] <Ameurux> ?
[17:36] <OwenB> Alguién habla español?
[17:36] <knightfelt> will: Yeah you have two entries for videolan
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> Ameurux  what's 8xxxx ?
[17:36] <cfhowlett> !es | OwenB,
[17:36] <artisanIndia> I had a running apache server on my localhost then I installed ehcp which didn't work for me the way I wanted so I removed it and installed nginx that either didn't work so I installed apache again which doesn't works either how I can I make it work ?
[17:36] <Laurenceb> i have a beagleboneblack (linux board) connected to a ubuntu desktop
[17:36] <Ameurux> ATI
[17:36] <knightfelt> will: you have to comment out one of them and try it again
[17:36] <Ameurux> sry ATI 8xxx
[17:36] <Laurenceb> i want to share the connection
[17:36] <will> knightfelt: how do i know which one is amd64?
[17:36] <Laurenceb> previously i had the connection sharing ok, but recently something broke
[17:37] <Laurenceb> i dont know how to debug this
[17:37] <cfhowlett> will  what's chip does your computer have?  match that.
[17:37] <knightfelt> will: They both support both 32 and 64 bit. You don't need both of them
[17:37] <Laurenceb> i can ping 192.168.7.1
[17:37] <Ameurux> Anyone tried ATI 8xxx series with 14.10 ????
[17:37] <knightfelt> will: that was confusing how I said it. Having just one set still gives you access to both 32 and 64 bit.
[17:38] <will> knightfelt: I do have 64.
[17:38] <will> knightfelt: ok one min
[17:38] <artisanIndia> I had a running apache server on my localhost then I installed ehcp which didn't work for me the way I wanted so I removed it and installed nginx that either didn't work so I installed apache again which doesn't works either how I can I make it work ?
[17:38] <PixelButterfly> hello, can I get some help with my Ethernet cable? It works  perfectly on Windows but it doesn't work in Ubuntu and it keeps trying to connect to the network to no avail. It says NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet.
[17:38] <PixelButterfly> thanks in advance :)
[17:39] <Ameurux> Anyone tried ATI 8xxx series with 14.10 ????
[17:39] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ameurux,
[17:39] <Ameurux> ok
[17:39] <Ameurux> sry man
[17:41] <wilx> Anyway, I have found the offending package in one of /var/log/dist-upgrade log files.
[17:42] <Hanken> Hello, everyone. i have a simple question. I decided to do a fresh install of xubuntu and i have installed compiz and the plugins. I'm just trying to enable wobbly windows. i have the compiz window open composite and open gl  checked and wobbly windows checked. however its not working. And it worked fine on my old install. am i forgetting something by chance? Thank you for your time and assistance!
[17:42] <skyfall> any ways to turn on the wireless powersaving  ?
[17:43] <joe__> Hey guys, just coming to say I love ubuntu. Yaaaay FOSS!
[17:43] <skyfall> anybidy
[17:43] <knightfelt> joe__: \o/
[17:43] <skyfall> anybody ??
[17:43] <will> knightfelt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8659076/
[17:43] <skyfall> any ways to turn on the wireless power saving
[17:43] <skyfall>  ?
[17:43] <cfhowlett> !patience | skyfall,
[17:44] <skyfall> im kind of new to this chat.  Sorry for the inconvenience
[17:45] <skyfall> i was kind of exhausted as my battery is draining so fast
[17:45] <skyfall> still i didn found any way to fix this issue.
[17:45] <knightfelt> will: vlc is a stubborn bugger....
[17:45] <Hanken> vlc has always given me low quality playback idk why
[17:46] <billbo> skyfall: never heard of it but a quick google found:  sudo iwconfig wlan0 power on
[17:46] <Hanken> is there a compiz chat room where people might know how to get it working?
[17:46] <garrettr> When installing packages, does Ubuntu check signatures on the packages themselves (e.g. via deb-sigverify) or does it only check the signatures on the archives (Release{,.gpg})?
[17:46] <will> knightfelt: when i autoremove[d], i think i burned myself
[17:47] <will> knightfelt: i think i uninstalled packages i cannt get from repositories
[17:47] <knightfelt> will: but you must have gotten them from somewhere.
[17:47] <PixelButterfly> hello, can I get some help with my Ethernet cable? It works  perfectly on Windows but it doesn't work in Ubuntu and it keeps trying to connect to the network to no avail. It says NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet.
[17:47] <will> knightfelt: i might have to just reinstall and learn my lesson
[17:47] <rww> garrettr: it checks the signatures on the Release files, and it checks that downloaded packages match the hashes in those files
[17:47] <knightfelt> will: I'm assuming when you installed vlc you did it through apt-get ?
[17:48] <skyfall> billbo: its showing operation failed in the terminal
[17:48] <will> tried
[17:48] <garrettr> rww: Got it. What is the purpose of debsign and deb-sigverify, then? Is it used anywhere?
[17:48] <cfhowlett> will rather extreme for a solution package ...
[17:48] <Hanken> fresh xubuntu install, nvidia installed, CCSM installed and updated plugins. open gl and composite is checked, wobbly windows is check but doesnt work. any ideas?
[17:49] <rww> garrettr: it's used when uploading packages to Debian's upload queue. I don't know if Launchpad uses it but it wouldn't surprise me if it does.
[17:49] <billbo> skyfall: it is probably hardware dependent.  tried it on my laptop with no error what card do you have?
[17:49] <rww> garrettr: i.e., it's packager-side, not client-side
[17:49] <will> cfhowlett: i realize it seems extreme, but i am running into this problem trying to install other programs too
[17:49] <skyfall> i dont know about the card details
[17:49] <garrettr> rww: Ah, so it's an integrity measure for transferring built debs to whoever is managing the archive?
[17:50] <cfhowlett> will  that IS suggestive.  direct action may indeed be necessary.
[17:50] <knightfelt> will: run this and paste the output: sudo apt-get install -f vlc
[17:50] <billbo> skyfall: oh well.   it may be that your card is just not supported.  I think I have Intel based wifi..
[17:51] <will> knightfelt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8659076/
[17:51] <skyfall> my board is also intel
[17:51] <skyfall> what is TLP ?
[17:51] <knightfelt> will: you missed the "-f" flag
[17:52] <nexus6> hey whats that other ubuntu help channel?
[17:52] <will> knightfelt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8659182/
[17:54] <Pici> !channels | nexus6 there are many
[17:54] <will> cfhowlett: what do you mean by suggestive?
[17:55] <firebird1> find command is messing me tooo much is there any alternative
[17:55] <cfhowlett> will if you're seeing issues from more than a single program ...
[17:55] <Pici> firebird1: What are you trying to do?
[17:56] <will> cfhowlett: thats why i was thinking about reinstalling and biting the [expletive removed] bullet
[17:57] <icefall5> Hey folks, I have a question related to the Ubuntu Forums, but I don't know where to ask for help. Whenever I try to log in, it says the username is already in use. I created an entirely new Ubuntu One account and tried using that, but it errors out showing the SAME USERNAME. I have no idea how I can log in.
[17:57] <firebird1> i'm doing home work , more like find files of certain size on linux like 1033 bytes with non executable
[17:57] <cfhowlett> will I understand.  if you *must* reinstall ... backup your backups by backing up the backup
[17:57] <knightfelt> will: I got something that might explain everything...
[17:58] <will> knightfelt: send it! I'm open to any ideas
[17:58] <will> keep in mind guys that I have all my work backed up on other partitions, so reinstalling is not a big deal
[17:59]  * cfhowlett looks over will's shoulder 
[17:59] <knightfelt> will: Seems like sometimes when you update with a slow connection, you can only partially update some packages and the list of packages installed and their versions get corrupted. This might affect many packages in your system. So we could try recreating the list
[17:59] <will> knightfelt: how can we do that?
[18:00] <knightfelt> will: cd /var/lib/apt
[18:00] <knightfelt> will: sudo mv lists lists.old
[18:00] <carlos_> saludos a la sala
[18:01] <cfhowlett> !es | carlos_
[18:01] <will> knightfelt: donwe
[18:01] <bubbasaures> icefall5, You can talk with ubuntu forum mods here at time #ubuntuforums
[18:01] <knightfelt> will: sudo mkdir -p lists/partial
[18:02] <knightfelt> will: sudo apt-get update
[18:02] <icefall5> bubbasaures: Perfect, thank you!
[18:02] <bubbasaures> icefall5, No problem. ;)
[18:02] <knightfelt> will: let me know if that fails or whatnot
[18:02] <will> knightfelt: rgr
[18:04] <will> knightfelt: its all done. should i try now?
[18:04] <knightfelt> will: sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:04] <will> knightfelt: Nodice
[18:05] <will> :(
[18:05] <knightfelt> will: post the output of dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[18:06] <will> knightfelt: nothing happened
[18:06] <bubbasaures> will, Are you using a ppa for vlc?
[18:07] <fortynine> anyone recommend anything to checkout for a first time xubuntu user after setup complete?
[18:07] <will> knightfelt: https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily
[18:07] <OerHeks> bubbasaures, yes, and he knows it is unsupported
[18:07] <bubbasaures> cool
[18:09] <knightfelt> will: Sorry, I'm out of ideas! Maybe somebody else can take a crack at it
[18:10] <will> knightfelt: You've been a big help! Thanks anyways!
[18:11] <cfhowlett> fortynine, install xubuntu-restricted-extras, vlc and localize your mirrors
[18:15] <fortynine> what is localize mirrors?
[18:16] <cfhowlett> fortynine, choose the best performing software source
[18:17]  * OerHeks supports the slowest mirror
[18:17] <cfhowlett> fortynine, system > software updater > settings > ubuntu software > Download from > other > choose the best server
[18:17] <fortynine> is there a way to pin stuff to taskbar?
[18:18] <fortynine> like windows 7 style, not adding to panel and then having it open an extra icon on taskbar
[18:18] <skyfall> cfhowlett : does compiz needs video card working  ?
[18:18] <fortynine> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/dockbarx-available-as-xfce-panel-plugin.html
[18:18] <fortynine> ^does this work for xubuntu
[18:19] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: should it's XFCE
[18:19] <cfhowlett> skyfall, pretty sure it does , but I'm on xubuntu = no compiz
[18:19] <fortynine> cant find it in software center
[18:19] <facuinf> zyan: Hi
[18:19] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: it has a PPA this means it's not part of the main distribution
[18:20] <fortynine> oh, so i have to do that sudo chop thing? :P
[18:20] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: you have to add the PPA to your apt-get sources then you can install it but it means you're trusting things outside of what is provided
[18:20] <fortynine> sudo apt-get dockbarx?
[18:20] <skyfall> anybody using the 14.10 release ? what all are the changes
[18:20] <skyfall> ?
[18:20] <xangua> !14.10 | skyfall
[18:20] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: you'd have to run those lines for add repository then run an update like it shows in the terminal section on that page
[18:20] <cfhowlett> skyfall, read the release notes
[18:20] <acovrig> How do I put a bridge (brctl add br2) in my /etc/networking/interfaces file?
[18:21] <Guest89509> Hey can someone help me install Grub from a live usb so that I can boot into windows?
[18:21] <skyfall> ok
[18:21] <fortynine> wafflej0ck, says invalid operation dockbarx
[18:21] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | Guest89509
[18:22] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: did you run the three lines there first, add the repository and update... only real problem usually can be that they haven't released packages for the version of ubuntu you're on
[18:22] <azizLIGHT> is it normal for xorg to eat 500 mb ram
[18:22] <azizLIGHT> and compiz 350 mb ram
[18:22] <azizLIGHT> and whats hud-service doing eating 300 mb ram
[18:22] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: you might also like Docky I personally am not using any of these anymore just running Ubuntu Gnome but I'm happy with how things are setup here
[18:23] <scottc_> I am trying to use boot-reapir and various other posts online
[18:23] <fortynine> does docky give you a taskbar like windows?
[18:23] <fortynine> pin stuff, etc?
[18:23] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: docky is more like OS X style launcher
[18:23] <fortynine> ah
[18:23] <wafflej0ck> but yeah lets you add stuff and modify the behavior some
[18:23] <fortynine> how do i add a ppa in xubuntu?
[18:24] <wafflej0ck> should just be, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dockbar-main/ppa
[18:24] <bubbasaures> scottc_, Not sure your setup but save the bootinfo summary 'url' to use with support when running bootrepair.
[18:24] <wafflej0ck> then after you add the PPA you update apt-get to get the new list of packages from the current repos, sudo apt-get update
[18:24] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: ^
[18:24] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: after that you should be able to install any packages provided by PPAs you've added along with the main repos
[18:25] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: but none of that is really supported on the ubuntu channel since it's not part of the main repositories
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> fortynine  use it at your own risk
[18:25] <wafflej0ck> yes that ^
[18:25] <fortynine> so its not advised, i guess?
[18:26] <fortynine> ok well how do i remove it then lol
[18:26] <cfhowlett> fortynine, you break it, you fix it is more accurate
[18:26] <fortynine> i ran that command
[18:26] <wafflej0ck> it's just up to you to debug problems and no one who isn't doing it (self included) probably won't advise it
[18:26] <texla> fortynine, what about wbar its in synaptic
[18:26] <syadnom_> anyone know if there is a pause-between connection attempts for pppd?  I can see one in the man page
[18:26] <fortynine> cant i view ppa subs into gui?
[18:26] <ubuntu-studio> so this is xchat
[18:27] <azizLIGHT> theres y ppa manager
[18:27] <fortynine> i dont see it, typed in ppa manager nothing comes up
[18:27] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: that command will basically modify your /etc/apt/sources.list, not sure if there is a GUI app for modifying it, typically I just use the add repo command or go into the file with nano or gedit or whatever and edit it
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-studio  this is #ubuntu and you are using xchat
[18:28] <fortynine> wafflej0ck, since im clueless, i should stay within the software center to avoid breaking things?
[18:28] <ubuntu-studio> probably
[18:28] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: from the command line you can, cat /etc/apt/sources.list, to print out the file, if you see the new repo in the bottom and want to take it out you can open like, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, being a noob the software center is a safer way to go
[18:28] <azizLIGHT> fortynine: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/y-ppa-manager-0991-released-with-ubuntu.html
[18:29] <azizLIGHT> that gives you a screenshot of what it looks like
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-studio  keep it in the channel please
[18:29] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: PPAs are typically for if you want some new version of something or something not supported by the distribution maintainers
[18:30] <fortynine> gotcha
[18:30] <ubuntu-studio> What distribution are you running, monkey?
[18:31] <marklite> Hi, I've just upgraded to ubuntu 14.10 but I'm having trouble trying to revert back to syslinux as my bootloader
[18:32] <marklite> I am trying to copy mbr.bin to /dev/sda
[18:32] <cfhowlett> marklite, merely copying will not make it bootable
[18:32] <azizLIGHT> im scared of updating to 14.10, what can i do to go back to a working 14.04 if something goes wrong
[18:32] <ubuntu-studio> MonkeyDust what distribution are you running?
[18:32] <rww> azizLIGHT: reinstall
[18:32] <DJones> azizLIGHT: To go back, you'd have to reinstall
[18:32] <cfhowlett> !ot | ubuntu-studio,
[18:32] <wafflej0ck> azizLIGHT: don't upgrade if you don't need it
[18:32] <acovrig> My graphics got messed up, what package(s) should I purge to get a fresh new ‘install’ for my GUI? (I’ve tried unity* and am trying ubuntu-desktop, any others?)
[18:32] <rww> azizLIGHT: if you want to be able to do something like that, use e.g. clonezilla
[18:33] <logikos> We have a server running ubuntu which occasionally needs to print to a network printer.  I have been using ghostscript and rlpr to do this but every now and again it fails because the printer doesnt like some postscript (even though its vallid)
[18:33] <wafflej0ck> azizLIGHT: use Clonezilla to snapshot your drive before upgrading then you have a rollback plan
[18:33] <ubuntu-studio> ah
[18:33] <cfhowlett> azizLIGHT, cutting edge = bleeding edge.  14.10 has 9 months support.  14.04 has 5 years support
[18:33] <logikos> at any rate, is there a way to instal the printer and print to it with the correct driver from the cli ?
[18:33] <azizLIGHT> ok
[18:33] <azizLIGHT> clonezilla, got it
[18:33] <marklite> cfhowlett, It's already bootable, I just need to put that file (mbr.bin) to /dev/sda
[18:33] <marklite> and it used to work before
[18:35] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: ubuntu-desktop should be a meta package for all the stuff you need for regular Unity and related components so that should cover most of the packages related to the main GUI, aside from that would check if you have additional drivers available for the GPU
[18:36] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: I switched back to onboard which worked perfectly fine w/out any drivers and can’t seem to get it to work, apt-get remove - -purge unity* ubuntu-desktop didn’t do anything useful…
[18:36] <wafflej0ck> logikos: in general CUPS acts as the print server in Linux apps, so no direct answer here but you can look into using CUPS from command line and that should work I think
[18:38] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: you reinstall the packages after purging them and reboot?  Think most of what is being removed/changed there is effective during startup but not sure if a simple logout/login would do it, might need to fully reboot, can you explain what kinds of problems your having specifically
[18:38] <UniqueNick> when you think about it, microsoft over the past 10 years have tried to force the world to pay for 4 updates to their OS. Vista, 7, 8, and now 10.  Ten years, 4 $100 updates. And their marketing dept has spent millions trying to convince us that their completely new OS. I love linux and this community for providing the world an alternative to the "would be monopoly" That is Microsoft's "pay for update" business model.
[18:38] <UniqueNick>  Tip of the hat to you guys :)
[18:38] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: I’m wondering if I `apt-get remove - -purge x11* xserver* xorg && reboot` then re-install them if that would do anything
[18:39] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: when I boot, lightdm comes up just fine, but when I login to any user (new users are don’t work either), I just get a background, nothing unity or anything like it
[18:39] <testvm> can anyone help me setup an app to autostart?
[18:39] <testvm> im at the application autostart screen to add, but it asks for a path
[18:39] <testvm> "command"
[18:40] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: yeah not sure never actually removed xserver myself or if that'll make a difference, have you checked dmesg for messages? sometimes those errors and some googling can help resolve underlying issues
[18:40] <wafflej0ck> testvm: what are you trying to run?
[18:40] <wafflej0ck> testvm: in a terminal, do which programhere, that will show the path to the binary
[18:40] <wafflej0ck> like, which firefox
[18:40] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: on my user, however, I get a gnome-termial window with no menubar (File,Edit…Help) just the terminal part of the window (because gnome-terminal is in my startup items)
[18:43] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: sounds like the display manager is failing or the window chrome.... haven't had a problem like that in a while but back in the day it was an issue with switching between compiz and metacity but don't know if those parts are relevant in this case... acovrig would be good to see the dmesg output I think just to see if there's any indication of whats failing
[18:44] <halimzhz> anybody here can help me on ubuntu partitioning disk via Xencenter ?
[18:45] <wafflej0ck> halimzhz: no idea what xencenter is so probably not, got a link though?
[18:45] <halimzhz> xencenter is a windows application to manager Xenserver
[18:46] <wafflej0ck> ah okay... probably outside the scope of people in the #ubuntu chat but maybe someone can help
[18:46] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8659819/
[18:47] <OerHeks> halimzhz, Short answer: You can not. Wine doesn't seem to work so the only way is through a Windows VM  ... However there's a similar opensource project called OpenXenManager wich emulates the one you mention.
[18:47] <UniqueNick> i'd recommend using parted magic live to partition your drives.
[18:47] <squinty> acovrig:   gnome-terminal --help-window-options
[18:47] <OerHeks> !info openxenmanager
[18:47] <nullbyte_> ubuntu in 14.10 is 2.8 version?
[18:47] <nullbyte_> why..
[18:47] <nullbyte_> 3.8
[18:47] <nullbyte_> gnome I mean\
[18:48] <rww> !info gnome-shell
[18:48] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: thx... scanning through it once nothing jumped out, will pass over it a few times here
[18:48] <acovrig> squinty: it’s not a problem with gnome-terminal’s config, I have nothing else on the display (I.E. no way to launch other apps)
[18:48] <halimzhz> ubottu: Xenserver by Citrix can use openxenmanager ?
[18:48] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: yea, I didn’t see anything...
[18:48] <CiSense> (64bit 14.04.1) pulseaudio is using 1.1 GB of ram and no sound apps are running is this right?
[18:49] <drmagoo> acovrig: check if there is anything in ~/.xsession or ~/Xsession
[18:49] <nexus6> DOMO ARIGATO MR UBOTTO
[18:49] <UniqueNick> hi ubottu
[18:49] <nexus6> srry
[18:49] <UniqueNick> :(
[18:49] <acovrig> drmagoo: neither of those exist, but ~/.xsession-errors does, it just says Script for {ibus,auto,default} started at run_im.
[18:50] <UniqueNick> hey, im trying to open another chat channel, i got the tab open, it says <none> how do i have a diff #channel to it?
[18:51] <acovrig> UniqueNick: /join #channel
[18:51] <OerHeks> UniqueNick, just type here :  /join #channelname
[18:51] <UniqueNick> ok thank you very much :D
 wafflej0ck: on my user, however, I get a gnome-termial window with no menubar (File,Edit…Help) just the terminal part of the window (because gnome-terminal is in my startup items)  hmmm...was responding to this comment from you. ok will bow out then  :)
[18:51] <fortynine> how do install something form a make file?
[18:52] <OerHeks> !build | fortynine search for the package in softwarecenter first before you start something
[18:52] <fortynine> there is nothing in software center
[18:52] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: yeah not seeing anything, since you tried with other user accounts I assume the xsession thing isn't a problem but not really sure how to debug lightdm or the DE itself
[18:52] <OerHeks> "nothing"?
[18:53] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: typically projects that have a makefile include build instructions
[18:53]  * OerHeks cries
[18:53] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: really though that's typically for more advanced users too
[18:53] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: do you think this would cause any ‘problems’? `apt-get remove —purge ubuntu-desktop unity* compiz* lightdm*`?
[18:53] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: if you're using a Makefile you are typically telling it to build some executable/binary from source code and might have to setup certain environment variables and dependencies before building
[18:54] <fortynine> this guide says to download the tar, extract it, do sudo checkinstall, then sudo make install
[18:54] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: just removing them without reinstall would be an issue for sure
[18:54] <fortynine> i just dont know where to put them
[18:54] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: yea, uninstalling them, rebooting, then re-installing them
[18:54] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: typically you run those commands in a terminal from the directory you extracted the stuff to
[18:54] <fortynine> i tried opening the folder target in terminal and running, but didnt work
[18:55] <fortynine> yes, i did open terminal here, then ran the command says nope
[18:55] <fortynine> "sudo check install command not found"
[18:55] <Dro__> how can i create 3 process for a same parent ?
[18:55] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: can you link to what you're trying to install?
[18:55] <Dro__> how can i create 3 process for a same parent using fork() ?
[18:56] <fortynine> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2090875
[18:56] <wafflej0ck> Dro__: fork three times?  is this a trick question?
[18:56] <fortynine> post #4
[18:57] <Dro__> wafflej0ck, if i do fork free times the process parent will be differant
[18:57] <Dro__> i want to create 3 process child A,B,C for a same process parent X
[18:58] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: have you install xfce4-panel ?
[18:58] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: says here it's included in that package http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-taskbar-plugin
[18:58] <Kottizen> Hi. I guess this would apply to Kubuntu as well. I want the large HDD to keep its Windows installation, and replace the SSD installation by Kubuntu 10.11. What should I choose as boot partition?
[18:59] <fortynine> im trying to install it
[18:59] <Kottizen> http://archive.kottnet.net/upload/IMAG6087.jpg
[18:59] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: if you really want to install from the source check out the INSTALL file in the tar.gz from that site
[18:59] <fortynine> i just want to install it, i dont care where its from at this point
[18:59] <rww> Dro__: so fork from the parent instead of the child
[18:59] <fortynine> is that link easier?
[18:59] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: it includes the instructions and a lot more info about what you need to do to build from source
[18:59] <PROG05> hey guys.. after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, I'm experiencing some lags and also the update manager is taking much longer to fetch the sources..
[18:59] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: that's the main source I believe
[19:00] <fortynine> ok, but how do i install it?
[19:00] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: but they say it's in xfce4-panel, so sudo apt-get install xfce4-panel, should do it
[19:00] <lancelot_of> hi there
[19:00] <fortynine> its another tar file
[19:00] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: if, sudo apt-get install xfce4-panel, doesn't work says its' not available, let me know
[19:00] <Dro__> rww, and how can i do that?
[19:00] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: if it says it's already installed then you should have this plugin already available assuming it's in the version you have
[19:01] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: in that case not worth compiling yourself and updating and stuff
[19:01] <squinty> PROG05:  try another server   Software Updates > ubuntu software tab
[19:01] <lancelot_of> under ubuntu session from lightdm my laptop works great, brightness and volume control keys works good and power managament is such that system suspends when battery charge is critical. The same does not happen if i open a fluxbox session from lightdm. Why? Which services should i enable under fluxbox in order to achieve a similar behaviour?
[19:01] <lancelot_of> Please help
[19:01] <fortynine> wafflej0ck, i dont want the panel, i want the plugin
[19:02] <rww> Dro__: fork and check the return value with an if statement as usual (0 = child, > 0 = PID = parent), and fork again inside the parent section of the if statement
[19:02] <fortynine> the command says its already installed
[19:02] <rww> Dro__: if this isn't a familiar pattern for you, ask the freenode channel relevant to the language you're using (e.g. ##c)
[19:02] <fortynine> or wait
[19:02] <fortynine> it says 1 not upgraded?
[19:02] <Dro__> rww, ok thanks
[19:02] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: that's okay if it's already installed though and in the version you have installed then you shouldn't need to add anything else programs wise just add it to the panel itself
[19:03] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: I'm not the best to help here really since I'm on Gnome I can't play along :)
[19:03] <PROG05> squinty: actually it's downloading more than 10MB of data.. I've checked the sources, but everything seems to be correct
[19:03] <Guest52724> Hello i have installed ubuntu and kali linux in dual boot and would like to install windows 7 also in triple boot problem is that the unallocated space i created is logical and cant make it primary in gparted and windows 7 wont install on logical volu;e
[19:03] <fortynine> wafflej0ck, i looked through the add items to panel, its not there
[19:03] <Guest52724> i am working with gparted
[19:04] <Guest52724> how can i create that primary partition from my unallocated 200GB in a extended partition
[19:04] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: okay perhaps it's not in the version of xfce4-panel that you have, check out the  INSTALL file in the tar.gz file you downloaded for the detailed instructions, typically it's something like run ./configure then run make then run sudo make install but it varies for different projects
[19:04] <fortynine> i dont get why i cant just compile it
[19:05] <fortynine> just duno why the commands are failing
[19:05] <wafflej0ck> if I wasn't on an SSD I would just install a few other VMs on here but need to hook up an external so I can do that without eating through all my space
[19:05] <squinty> PROG05: due to the recent release of 14.10 some servers may be really busy causing transmissions lags.  as mentioned before, you might want to try another server to see if it is faster.  not really sure what you mean exactly by your last statement....
[19:06] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: so… purging ubuntu-desktop unity* compiz* lightdm* xorg xserver* && reboot then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop didn’t do anything…
[19:06] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: compiling isn't always trivial, it depends on a lot of stuff being in place and configuration for your system being done correctly so things get installed to the right location and can run with the right privileges and everything, that's why it's not recommended for people who are new to linux and why the repositories are so useful
[19:06] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: at this point I’m wondering if I need to do a re-install to get a GUI, but *really* don’t want to do that...
[19:06] <lancelot_of> no answers for me?
[19:06] <sokrat> как в Ubuntu 14.10 включить mir
[19:06] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: yeah bummer but I don't know what else to recommend trying after what you've already done and what we looked at... just don't know what else to try
[19:07] <PROG05> squinty: thanks
[19:07] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: yea, thanks anywho
[19:07] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: np godspeed
[19:08] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone help me figure out how to make xfce drawing minimized windows? i know it's my compositor setting somewhere and i'm using compton but i can't figure it out. KDE has a checkbox for this sort of thing
[19:08] <squinty> !ru | sokrat
[19:08] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: yeah so the ./configure command first checks your system for the required dependencies to build the project typically, then the "make" command tells it to do whatever is the default in the Makefile which is typically compile all the source and link it all into an executable, then "make install" typically copies the files or makes symbolic links from /usr/bin so the programs are in the PATH so they get found when you type
[19:08] <wafflej0ck> them in the terminal
[19:09] <ceil> nouveau good for 3d gaimin or should i stick with 'nvidia' driver?
[19:09] <fortynine> i just added their PPA and it worked ^_^
[19:10] <fortynine> so much nicer now
[19:10] <wafflej0ck> ceil: not sure, if you aren't having problems though I probably wouldn't switch since drivers can be a big headache especially if you end up with two of them loading
[19:10] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: nice glad you got it sorted
[19:10] <ceil> wafflej0ck: i'm moving from AMD APU to a new nvidia card
[19:10] <ceil> so i need a new nvidia driver anyway
[19:10] <wafflej0ck> ceil: ah gotcha personally have used the proprietary most of the time so I can't say
[19:10] <ceil> just need to know if nouveau has a chance of playing UT4 or Portal 2
[19:11] <Guest52724> Is there any way you can make a primary partition from unallocated space in a extended partition
[19:11] <ceil> i got no problem using proprietary, but i'll support the OSS one if it can do what i need it to :p
[19:11] <Guest52724> if you only have 1 primary
[19:11] <wafflej0ck> ceil: for sure... I've heard it's pretty decent but just guess I trust Nvidia more with their own chipsets despite the whole closed source thing
[19:12] <DammitJim> can you guys point me to some good tutorials on how to join a ubuntu server to a windows domain?
[19:12] <wafflej0ck> and when it comes to gaming I don't want a fuxx
[19:12] <wafflej0ck> fuss*
[19:12] <DammitJim> this server I'm setting up is just a file server
[19:12] <ceil> word
[19:12] <ceil> i'm not too much a gamer, and i like stuff to just work
[19:12] <squinty> ceil: afik, it should load the nouveau driver after installing the new video card anyways, so try it first... if it doesn't meet requirements then Addition Drivers is the next option
[19:12] <ceil> but Epic are doing awesome things with UT4, and i wanna support that
[19:13] <ceil> squinty: oh, i don't use Ubuntu, i just know this channel's quick to offer help :)
[19:13] <ceil> (##linux ignored my query)
[19:13]  * ceil uses LMDE
[19:13] <wafflej0ck> ceil: running Arch? or Debian?
[19:13] <ceil> wafflej0ck: Linux Mint Debian Edition
[19:14] <ceil> but an old version atm, so need to install the new one anyway
[19:14] <ceil> maybe the installer will tell me if nouveau meets my needs :p
[19:14]  * ceil is currently in a text-only interface, due to having just started using the nv card with fglrx drivers :p
[19:14] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here familar with compton compositor? is there some setting that draws a preview of a window that's minimized?
[19:14] <ceil> (else i'd look all this up)
[19:14] <wafflej0ck> nice I liked Mint 15 or whatever it was I tried, but haven't followed the latest on that, curious about how LXQT is donig too
[19:15] <wafflej0ck> doing*
[19:15] <ceil> Mint's installer likes me more (dunno why, but Debian's always given me trouble), and i like the Cinnamon GUI :)
[19:16] <fortynine> wafflej0ck, thanks, and thanks for the help
[19:16] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: sure thing
[19:18] <Kottizen> How do I boot? http://archive.kottnet.net/upload/IMAG6088.jpg
[19:18] <wafflej0ck> DammitJim: sorry no idea about joining a domain really, I know you have samba/smb for file sharing but not sure about joining a domain
[19:18] <flounders> I am trying to upgrade some machines to 14.04 LTS from 12.04 LTS, but I am running into problems with do-release-upgrade. When it goes to calculate the changes it exits. Any ideas what I can do?
[19:19] <bekks> flounders: Whats the "exit message"?
[19:20] <squinty> Kottizen:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#grub.3E  might want to try boot-repair
[19:20] <flounders> bekks: Give me a moment let me pull it up again.
[19:22] <Kottizen> squinty: How do I know where my kernel is located?
[19:22] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#boot for your previous question, for the current one when doing the grub boot-repair it will scan the drive to find it for you
[19:23] <flounders> bekks: This is the output it gives me: paste.ubuntu.com/8660243/
[19:23] <bekks> Kottizen: It is located in /boot
[19:23] <bekks> flounders: does one of the reasons given apply?
[19:24] <wafflej0ck> flounders: yeah do you have packages installed from other sources that can't be upgraded potentially?
[19:24] <daznis666> Hello guys, how do I resolve this issue after updating to 14.10
[19:24] <flounders> I am not running pre-release as I have 12.04.5 LTS, and I am trying 14.04 LTS so that eliminates the first two.
[19:24] <daznis666> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[19:24] <flounders> I don't believe there are any third party packages, but let me check.
[19:25] <daznis666> not this :(
[19:25] <Kottizen> I'll go ahead and re-install the system. Probably faster.
[19:25] <bekks> flounders: So can you pastebin "sudo apt-get update" please?
[19:25] <bekks> daznis666: Which issue?
[19:25] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: yeah you are in better shape backing it all up particularly your user folder and clean install
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> daznis666: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:25] <daznis666> wait I pastebin the code
[19:26] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: I just installed it, there is nothing to take back up on.
[19:26] <flounders> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8660288/
[19:26] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: even better :)
[19:26] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: I think I chose the wrong device for boot loader installation, when I was here: http://archive.kottnet.net/upload/IMAG6087.jpg
[19:27] <daznis666> jhutchins_wk, bekks http://pastebin.com/U9HSUcCd after updating to 14.10 something got wrong
[19:28] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: ah yeah I was working with a guy here who had a similar setup with lots of extra NTFS partitions makes it more confusing for sure
[19:28] <squinty> Kottizen:  yep. installed to your usb stick.  boot-repair should handle that ok though.  reinstalling is also good practice though  :P
[19:28] <bekks> daznis666: There are no issues, just a warning.
[19:28] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: doing the grub boot-repair stuff isn't too bad usaully though
[19:28] <daznis666> bekks, how do i fix it?
[19:28] <k33n> hey
[19:28] <fortynine> anyone use jupiter here?
[19:28] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck, squinty: The thing is, I only have DVD-RW:s.
[19:28] <k33n> yes
[19:28] <bekks> daznis666: BY eliminating the duplicate source named.
[19:29] <daznis666> ok
[19:29] <k33n> im hungry
[19:29] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: ah bummer gotta get yourself a flash drive, can get an 8GB for like $10 if you look around
[19:29] <wafflej0ck> er less probably
[19:29] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: I definitely should, yes.
[19:30] <lancelot_of> probably mmy trouble wasn't read?
[19:30] <wafflej0ck> lancelot_of: saw it just didn't have an ansewr for ya
[19:30] <wafflej0ck> lancelot_of: probably worth repeating at this point though
[19:31] <wafflej0ck> lancelot_of: you might want to post your question to one of the forums too like ubuntuforums or the appropriate place to get more eyes on it and to have your whole issue laid out somewhere you can just link to
[19:31] <squinty> Kottizen:  boot-repair also offers a full live dvd boot disk.  you could also check out  rescatux  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  but you probably will find it faster just to reinstall
[19:33] <flounders> bekks: Something I should mention these machines were running 10.04 and were upgraded to 12.04. Also I am typically a Fedora user, this is someone elses machine.
[19:33] <lancelot_of> wafflej0ck, thanks
[19:34] <Kottizen> squinty, wafflej0ck: I am back at this step now. I would like Kubuntu to be installed on the SSD/sdb. What should I do to make it boot? http://archive.kottnet.net/upload/IMAG6089.jpg
[19:38] <flounders> bekks: I just looked in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and saw this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8660388/
[19:39] <flounders> Any ideas how I can fix all the broken dependencies?
[19:41] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone else use compton compositor?
[19:41] <hazardous> hello
[19:41] <hazardous> i am installing ubuntu and doing 'configure network manually'
[19:41] <hazardous> but it will not let me use a gateway
[19:42] <bekks> flounders: You do not have broken dependencies currently. You should investigate where all those stange packages came from. Could you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:42] <hazardous> i have to set it up is 5.39.70.53 public ip, 255.255.255.255 subnet, 37.187.132.1 gateway
[19:42] <hazardous> but it apparently does not like that
[19:42] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, hello. glad to see another linux user here
[19:42] <hazardous> it rejects gw saying that i entered something wrong, when i know i don't enter anything wrong..
[19:43] <bekks> hazardous: 255.255.255.255 subnet is nonsense. the default gateway has to be in the same subnet as your host.
[19:43] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, that gateway address is rather strange, you connect directly to the net and dont' use a router?
[19:43] <Pici> ubuntuaddicted: I've never heard of it, but their github page says that they have a channel in #compton
[19:43] <hazardous> ubuntuaddicted: my upstream does arp proxying and broken routing
[19:43] <ubuntuaddicted> Pici, yes, i'm in the IRC channel thanks
[19:43] <hazardous> i explicitly have to have a gateway nowhere close to my public ip
[19:44] <hazardous> windows at least just asks me if i'm sure what i'm doing
[19:44] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, what bekks said
[19:44] <hazardous> bekks: my isp told me to use these settings
[19:44] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: not super familiar with the KDE installation steps but the basic point is you need your BIOS to point to a disk and you need GRUB installed on that disk, the grub configuration in the /boot mount point will have the grub configuration that defines the menu options in the boot screen
[19:44] <hazardous> ubuntu and pfsense both don't want to allow me to do it
[19:44] <bekks> hazardous: then you ISP told you nonsense.
[19:44] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, try 255.255.255.0
[19:44] <flounders> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8660459/
[19:44] <bekks> hazardous: the gateway has to be in the same subnet as your host, technically. thats a must.
[19:45] <ubuntuaddicted> flounders, why don't you upgrade, 9.04 is way way old
[19:45] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: He is on 12.04
[19:45] <ubuntuaddicted> flounders, sorry, i see you're using 12.04
[19:45] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: Thanks. I let the superior developers decide, by letting cgdisk entirely wipe sdb and then choosing "entire disk" for sdb in the installation. Hope this works.
[19:46] <hazardous> bekks: "Regardless of the size of your block, you will treat the IP address as a /32 with a netmask 255.255.255.255. DO NOT try to use what should logically be the gateway IP for your IP block."
[19:46] <hazardous> i just need to force ubuntu to accept this or i can't continue the install
[19:47] <bekks> hazardous: You cannot use technically wrong settings. Ask your ISP on how they'd do that.
[19:48] <joeykapi> lubuntu won't give me stereo sound over hdmi
[19:49] <flounders> joeykapi: The volume mixer treats digital and analog out differently.
[19:50] <flounders> joeykapi: You will need to explicitly change the volume on the HDMI rather than just what is in your system tray.
[19:51] <joeykapi> well, the problem is that I only get mono sound, which isn't that nice if you try to play 3d games where you need to know where other things are
[19:53] <flounders> bekks: Removing the kde-runtime pulled all the offending packages. Now it will let me upgrade.
[19:54] <Quantos> Hey guys, I'm having a problem  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249678
[19:54] <bekks> flounders: cool :)
[19:55] <joeykapi> Quantos: did you try scaling on your monitor?
[19:56] <Quantos> joeykapi: I'm not sure what you mean by 'scaling' do you mean adjusting it for cinema, normal or stretch?
[19:57] <mr_kernelpanic> hello, does anybody use ncmpcpp?
[19:57] <bekks> mr_kernelpanic: What ifß
[19:58] <bekks> mr_kernelpanic: Whats your actual question?
[19:58] <mr_kernelpanic> well i would like to know how i can retrieve the currently playing song
[19:58] <mr_kernelpanic> somehow --now-playing does not work
[19:58] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[19:59] <mr_kernelpanic> so wrong channel?
[20:00] <flounders> mr_kernelpanic: That would be correct.
[20:01] <Es0teric> how do i make it so when a user creates a file in a folder, it creates it in a default group?
[20:01] <bekks> Es0teric: The file is created with the primary group of the user.
[20:01] <Kottizen> willcooke: Worked! I wasn't presented with grub though, but it doesn't really matter. I rarely use Windows anyway.
[20:04] <Es0teric> bekks the permissions for folders are all fucked up
[20:05] <bekks> Es0teric: Please mind your language - and repair the permissions.
[20:07] <puff> My laptop's viewable screen size is significantly (.5" to .75" on each side) narrower than my actual screen.
[20:08] <RobinHood2015> My network icon is missing from my top panel. How do I get it back?
[20:09] <puff> RobinHood2015: The easiest way is to reboot, but that's so windowsy... you could try restarting the gnome netwokr-manager applet.
[20:09] <RobinHood2015> And the command for that is...?
[20:09] <simonor> Evening Chaps. Lost my rag earlier with 14.10
[20:10] <ChogyDan> hey folks, I'm looking for direction with this question: There are certain apps that have multiple windows, but a single process/session when run.  Even if you run them multiple times, just new windows are opened in the current session.  Can I force such an app to start a new session?
[20:10] <simonor> Status:14.10 has improved BCM43142 support.
[20:10] <puff> RobinHood2015: man -k network | fgrep -i manager
[20:11] <puff> ChogyDan: Highly application-dependent.
[20:11] <knightfelt> ChogyDan: What apps are you talking about specifically?
[20:11] <simonor> BCM43142 still not stable however.
[20:11] <simonor> Deal-breaker? No audio on rendered video in Kdenlive and Openshot
[20:12] <simonor> Timing also wrong in Kdenlive.
[20:12] <ChogyDan> knightfelt: well, sublime in particular, atm.  I think chrome has command line options for that...
[20:12] <sands> i need help
[20:13] <knightfelt> sands: what's the problem?
[20:13] <simonor> Also, printer addition needs a system reboot, like windows or something h8.0teful
[20:13] <bekks> simonor: Thats not true.
[20:13] <bekks> simonor: Adding a printer does not need a reboot.
[20:13] <simonor> So, I've reverted to 14.04, which would be perfect if it wasn't for the bad BCM43142
[20:14] <sands> i need help with lubuntu, I cannot change my users and groups because I can't confirm my choices because the window is covered
[20:14] <RobinHood2015> I don't see anything on how to restart NetworkManager, though...
[20:14] <ChogyDan> sands: if the windows are too big, you can drag them by holding the alt key
[20:14] <simonor> sands:covered button? Try tabbing and fire blind.
[20:14] <spaztik> sands, covered by what, can we see a screenshot?
[20:15] <spaztik> sands, and have you tried from CLI?
[20:16] <sands> holding alt was the solution, fuck yeah mateys!!!
[20:16] <bubbasaures> sands, heh, world wide family channel, don't freak out the kids.;)
[20:16] <sands> have I told you lately that I love you?
[20:17] <RobinHood2015> What about my NetworkManager problem?
[20:17] <spaztik> RobinHood2015: restart avahi service
[20:18] <RobinHood2015> The command?
[20:19] <spaztik> http://bit.ly/1wwIIez
[20:19] <sands> what is the best way to change my permissions on my windows disk? I keep getting my data half transfered via samba and then I get permissions errors because I only own half the files?
[20:19] <bekks> sands: You cant. NTFS does not understand linux permissions.
[20:19] <ChogyDan> RobinHood2015: I would guess: sudo service network-manager restart
[20:20] <RobinHood2015> Yes, but that doesn't help as far as getting the network icon back, does it?
[20:20] <spaztik> you can also restart network-manager itself
[20:20] <sands> the windows disk is broken so I am trying to transfer all of her files to her main pc
[20:20] <spaztik> RobinHood2015: if the icon is missing it might be your panel that's at fault
[20:20] <sands> I am running lubuntu on a seperate partition
[20:21] <spaztik> RobinHood2015: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507310/network-manager-icon-disappeared-14-04
[20:21] <spaztik> first result for "network manager icon missing ubuntu"
[20:22] <RobinHood2015_> Yes, that's what I'm suspecting. I don't think I'd be able to talk to you guys if the network-manager service was the problem... So how do I fix a broken panel?
[20:22] <spaztik> what DE are you using? Unity?
[20:22] <sands> will I have to back up to an external drive so I can get the files off? or will I run into permissions trouble there too??
[20:22] <joeykapi> I have some weird problems on my new PC with a r9 270x Graphics card. The screen randomly flickers, and I can't find any error logs (unity)
[20:22] <RobinHood2015_> spaztik: yeah, that's right
[20:23] <spaztik> RobinHood2015 first check that link, it tells it to start with dbus, which is probably more stable than what's working right now
[20:23] <RobinHood2015_> spaztik: can you repost that link? when i restarted network-manager, it kicked me off here and i had to log back in, and it cleared the screen
[20:23] <spaztik> RobinHood2015: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507310/network-manager-icon-disappeared-14-04
[20:26] <RobinHood2015_> Okay, I've got a problem. I tried to run 'dbus-launch nm-applet' in a terminal, and it told me: nm-applet-Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon
[20:26] <puff> I just upgraded to 14.04.  I have a thinkpad t520 with (ptui!) nvidia graphics.  What's the common wisdom on graphics drivers these days?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> puff: When you upgraded, did you leave a proprietary driver installed,; that now is broken ?
[20:28] <puff> Bashing-om: "Additional drivers" says I'm "Using NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.117 from nvidia-304 (proprietary)"
[20:29] <nexus6> i wonder how many people/bots/nicks Ive talked to before in here
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> RobinHood2015_: What desktop are you running?
[20:29] <puff> Bashing-om: It looks like the black bars on the edge of the screen thing is related to resolution, when I reset resolution to 1920x1080 I have the full screen.
[20:29]  * nexus6 types to himself
[20:29] <nexus6> OH HEY: I just got Ubuntu 14: do I need Gnome or some GUI desktop?
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> RobinHood2015_: It's something like gnome-network-manager-applet - you run that and that generates the icon.
[20:29] <nexus6> I like the factory grade ubuntu :(
[20:30] <Bashing-om> puff: Is that driver in fact loaded ? terminal command -> sudo lshw -C display <- to know what is .
[20:30] <jhutchins_wk> nexus6: Some people don't need a GUI.  Depends on what you want to do.
[20:30] <puff> Bashing-om: so now I'm just sort of asking in general.  Graphics wise, I don't do that much, my main concern is using external monitors. Currently I use a Dell usharp 24" via the VGA port.
[20:31] <puff> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661072/
[20:31] <puff> Looks like it's defaulting to the onboard intel.
[20:32] <Bashing-om> puff: Graphics drivers, common wisdom is "try" open source, then the drivers available from Additional Drivers, then PPA, as a final solution try the drivers from Nvidia ( expect breakage each time the kernel is upgraded ).
[20:32] <puff> It's t520 optimus so it in theory switches between built in intel or nvidia.
[20:32] <puff> Bashing-om: Thanks.
[20:32] <PixelButterfly> hi, I'm having a problem with my ethernet cables. Ubuntu recognizes them and it attempts to connect to no avail. it says NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet. any help?
[20:32] <puff> Bashing-om: I'll go try that.
[20:33] <Bashing-om> puff: Hybrid graphics ??? a whole new ball game ! As the manufactures do not directly support linux with drivers .
[20:33] <TeraJL> is there any way to install this app https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/trusty/war-in-a-box-paper-tanks/ on  14.10 ?
[20:35] <wldcordeiro> So I was upgrading my laptop from 14.04 to 14.10 and my graphics driver was apparently configured improperly.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> puff: switchable graphics, while I look see:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics .
[20:36] <wldcordeiro> I have the choice to run in low graphics but it won't load.
[20:36] <wldcordeiro> Just goes to a screen where there's a flashing cursor but it isn't a shell.
[20:36] <wldcordeiro> Exiting to console gives me the same screen
[20:37] <wldcordeiro> There is an xserver log but the startup errors is empty.
[20:37] <bubbasaures> wldcordeiro, You can use a tty terminal if needed, or the root in recovery once you mount read write.
[20:37] <Bashing-om> puff: This "configuration: driver=i915" says right now you are running on the Intel on-board graphics .
[20:38] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: what kind of graphics?
[20:39] <demon-k2008> I from Russia, write through the translator, so excuse that if crookedly translates. Prompt the people please, for screws there was a program of Goden FTP Server earlier? There is an analog for Ubunta? On that program it was possible to select simply the file and to receive the link for direct access from a network.
[20:39] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: I have a hybrid AMD/Intel graphics setup.
[20:40] <mac_15> Hi To everyone
[20:40] <RobinHood2015> There is no gnome-network-manager-applet!
[20:40] <samthewildone> !updatedb
[20:41] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: It's the Intel 4400, and an AMD Radeon 8750M
[20:41] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: you can run `dkms status` to check proprietary drivers
[20:41] <ChogyDan> RobinHood2015: it is nm-applet, so the command would be something like: nm-applet $ disown
[20:42] <Bashing-om> puff: For Intel/Nvidia set up I often see BumbleBee OR Nvidia-Prime recommended.
[20:42] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: I tried that and got a bad conf file but it's also complaining about read only on /usr/sbin/dkms
[20:42] <wldcordeiro> So I think I need to mount but I'm not sure the command for that.
[20:43] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: is this a live install you are running?
[20:43] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: It was running 14.04 that I upgraded earlier.
[20:43] <wldcordeiro> I just ran mount -o rw,remount /
[20:43] <wldcordeiro> and now when I ran dkms status
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> it returned
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> fglrx-core, 14.201 3.13.0 installed
[20:44] <PixelButterfly> hi, I'm having a problem with my ethernet cables. Ubuntu recognizes them and it attempts to connect to no avail. it says NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet. any help?
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> and 3.16 installed
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> as well as virtualbox installed.
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> on 3.13 and 16
[20:44] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: strongly suggest using pastebin
[20:45] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: will do.
[20:45] <bekks> PixelButterfly: So configure an IP?
[20:45] <wafflej0ck> PixelButterfly: what do you get when you run ifconfig
[20:46] <PixelButterfly> I get 3 different interfaces
[20:46] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Pastebin the output please and provide the URL.
[20:46] <PixelButterfly> sure
[20:46] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/HmicXEaH
[20:47] <wldcordeiro> That's the result of dkmx status
[20:47] <wldcordeiro> dkms*
[20:47] <demon-k2008>  Prompt the people please, for screws there was a program of Goden FTP Server earlier? There is an analog for Ubunta? On that program it was possible to select simply the file and to receive the link for direct access from a network.
[20:47] <Bashing-om> PixelButterfly: Can you ping your router ? .. What results -> ping -c3 8.8.8.8 <- ?
[20:47] <PixelButterfly> sure, here you go
[20:47] <PixelButterfly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661253/
[20:47] <bekks> demon-k2008: vsftpd
[20:47] <nexus6> I love: Ubuntu
[20:47] <PixelButterfly> well right now I'm sharing a USB connection w/ my Android phone
[20:48] <bekks> PixelButterfly: And there is a cable connected to eth0?
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> if I try that I'd have to disconnect, but a ping wouldn't work before
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> yes bekks
[20:48] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: looks good.  but it's weird how you have 3.16 as your kernel, and I only have 3.13
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> oh
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> nope, hold on
[20:49] <sx0z> pms-1.90.1-setup-full.exe
[20:49] <PixelButterfly> let me paste the output again
[20:49] <SlazO> good evening everyone!
[20:49] <ChogyDan> wa-weird, for some reason, linux wasn't upgraded on my install
[20:49] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: 14.10 updates to 3.16 iirc
[20:49] <sx0z> set;\me
[20:49] <PixelButterfly> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661292/
[20:50] <PixelButterfly> it's connected now
[20:50] <Kottizen> Hi everyone, again. How do I fix this? I would like to use one of the non-recommended drivers. http://archive.kottnet.net/temp/VIDEO0216.mp4
[20:50] <sx0z> Open Source
[20:50] <sx0z> AVI, H.264, MP3, MP4, MPG, TS, Xvid
[20:50] <bekks> Kottizen: Could you describe your issue please, I dont want to watch a video :)
[20:51] <sx0z> cable box modem 2600-os 738398
[20:51] <Kottizen> bekks: When I select a non-recommended driver in jockey, it takes about five seconds until I am presented with the same view again, and the old driver selected.
[20:51] <sx0z> me = em set +/738398
[20:51] <sx0z> lkp
[20:51] <Kottizen> bekks: The video is 30 seconds long and describes the issue. No sound needed.
[20:52] <sx0z> link
[20:52] <sx0z> | IPOD | PSP | PS3 | XBOX360 | PC |
[20:52] <PixelButterfly> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661292/
[20:52] <sx0z> television cable life
[20:52] <bekks> sx0z: Stop it please.
[20:52] <sx0z> 12q11q
[20:52] <PixelButterfly> whenever I turn on that connection it will keep trying to connect and fail multiple times
[20:52] <sx0z> pornVCD2DVDMPG
[20:53] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Is there a DHCP server running which would serve an IP address?
[20:53] <PixelButterfly> umm.. how can I find that out?
[20:54] <jimmy51v_> anyone know how to modify the liveCD installer to allow for .'s in usernames?
[20:54] <jimmy51v_> i modifed line 66 of ubi-usersetup.py to this: elif not re.match('^[-a-z0-9_.]+$', username)
[20:54] <jimmy51v_> didn't help
[20:54] <PixelButterfly> in Windows it worked perfectly, same goes for the PS3 and the other computer in the house
[20:54] <Bushmaster> hello just need some advice please
[20:54] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Did you try to manually configure your network interface?
[20:55] <wldcordeiro> Completely confused with what to do at this point. :/
[20:55] <PixelButterfly> not really, should I?
[20:55] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Of course.
[20:55] <wldcordeiro> Maybe reinstalling my drivers from the root console.
[20:55] <PixelButterfly> and how would I go about doing that?
[20:55] <demon-k2008> -bekks- Thanks, I will study now that that you prompted to me.
[20:55] <Bushmaster> i installed ubuntu and now in the command prompt, i typed su and put correct password yet it says authentication failure hence wont allowing me to get to root, how i solve this problem?
[20:55] <bekks> !root | Bushmaster
[20:55] <PixelButterfly> I have a very faint notion of how to do that because I've done it with a Wifi connection before
[20:56] <bekks> PixelButterfly: you could follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[20:56] <OerHeks> jimmy51v_, this page may be any help, it warns against it and give a solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/405638/what-are-the-disadvantages-of-having-a-dot-in-a-user-name
[20:57] <Tsutsukakushi> hello
[20:57] <OerHeks> jimmy51v_, still possible it breaks something
[20:57] <PixelButterfly> alright, will do
[20:57] <PixelButterfly> one escond!
[20:57] <PixelButterfly> second*
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> i have problems with turning hardware block off on a toshiba laptop, it worked fine ón another installation
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> could there be anything else causing this other than it being broken?
[20:58] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks:  ah, thanks
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> any kernel modules or anything?
[20:58] <bekks> Tsutsukakushi: Whats "hardware block"?
[20:58] <PixelButterfly> bekks, I'll be back in a while
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> rfkill hard block
[20:58] <PixelButterfly> I'll try doing that
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> on wifi
[20:59] <PixelButterfly> thanks :)
[20:59] <gr33n7007h> Tsutsukakushi, sudo rfkill unblock all
[20:59] <Tsutsukakushi> didn't work
[21:00] <Tsutsukakushi> the fn+f8 button didn't have any effect either
[21:00] <Tsutsukakushi> even tho it should have
[21:00] <Bushmaster> thanks ubottu  just read, helpful
[21:00] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: weird.  that value is commented out
[21:02] <lius> ccciao
[21:05] <Bushmaster> hi again, i need to install few python programming related packages, when i go to software center and type Matplotlib which is python package i see ranges of them but when i type the same thing in terminal it says it cant find any
[21:05] <acerspyro> checksum for ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[21:05] <samthewildone> Where is the ~theme folder ?
[21:05] <acerspyro> My buddy says he can't find it.
[21:05] <wldcordeiro> Bushmaster: get virtualenv setup and use the pip within the virtualenv instead of the software center.
[21:06] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, "apt-cache search matplotlib" in terminal
[21:06] <samthewildone> using gnome 3 but, I do not have a 'theme' directory in my home directory.
[21:06] <Moter8> Where can I find md5 hashes for 14.10.1?
[21:07] <Moter8> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes only shows 14.10
[21:07] <acerspyro> ^
[21:07] <bekks> Moter8: There is no 14.10.1 and there never will be.
[21:07] <Moter8> eg for ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:07] <acerspyro> Moter8: Wait, yeah
[21:07] <Moter8> bekks, what am i downloading then from http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:07] <acerspyro> Latest is 14.04
[21:07] <bekks> Moter8: 14.04.1 ...
[21:07] <Moter8> ohlol
[21:07] <napsc> scroll down
[21:07] <acerspyro> Retard :)
[21:07] <Moter8> sorry then, lol
[21:08] <Bushmaster> gr33n7007h, great, it shows exactly the list now i saw in software center, so can i install by typing apt-get and then typing exactly the way it was shown in the cache list?
[21:08] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, yep :)
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Moter8: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS
[21:09] <Moter8> Bashing-om, i forgot how to brain :/
[21:11] <hikero> hi
[21:11] <Bashing-om> Moter8: As in ? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM ?
[21:11] <hikero> Hey
[21:11] <Moter8> nope :)
[21:11] <Moter8> mixed up 14.10 and 14.10 on the ubuntu download page.
[21:12] <Moter8> 14.04 duh
[21:12] <Bushmaster> gr33n7007h, HI again, when i did sudo apt-get etc with python-numpy it said, python numpy is already the newest version,  does it means its already installed
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Moter8: Friday, and takes extra effort to focus (?) .
[21:13] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, yes
[21:15] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, apt-cache show <packagename> will show you installed state
[21:17] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, that should be "apt-cache policy <package_name>" sorry about that :)
[21:17] <spiftheninja> anyone know a reliable way to time my autoperform so i don't flood? PLEASE PM ME, WILL TIP
[21:17] <gasbag> is there a netinst iso for either ubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:18] <Pici> !minimal | gasbag
[21:18] <gasbag> ubottu:  tnx so much!  I'll check it out.
[21:18] <gasbag> ha!
[21:19] <Moter8> heh
[21:19] <Pici> gasbag: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ for the latest ones or s/i386/amd64/
[21:19] <gasbag> Pici:  cool thanks
[21:19] <Bushmaster> gr33n7007h, just installed SciTools under Python, hence the delay, so the command u provided, in the package name, shall i just type Python
[21:19] <gasbag> gasbag becomes gasbotto...
[21:20] <VictorSeb> hi, friends. I'm trying to install Apache Cordova on Ubuntu. I followed the instructions on Cordova documentation (installed node, npm, and then Cordova via npm). Now, when I try running a command using cordova, nothing happens. It autocompletes the word cordova, but it doesn't even show the version. Any ideas on what the problem could be?
[21:20] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, what for the interactive python shell?
[21:21] <Inspireless124> Cordova is a bitch.
[21:22] <Bushmaster> well i got the shell, a basic one, IDLE, well plan is to move to sophisticated shell later on, but the book i am following for work on mathematical modeling on python suggested IDLE shell gr33n7007h
[21:22] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, I'd just use ipython for now
[21:23] <Bushmaster> is it a editor gr33n7007h
[21:23] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, no, it is a REPL
[21:23] <Bushmaster> what is that gr33n7007h
[21:23] <Pici> Also #python might be helpful once you do start doing some programming :)
[21:24] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, basically the same as the interactive python shell, but many advanced features
[21:24] <VictorSeb> Inspireless124: yeah, it should be working already. I'm trying to look up some solution, but all I can find are tutorials teaching the same thing as the documentation
[21:24] <Jack_L> I just downloaded a tar.gz from a unknown source. I'm in Ubuntu 14.04. How worried should I be?
[21:25] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: I've used Ionic framework but not cordova directly
[21:25] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: ionic was pretty painless beyond setting up the environment variables for android developer tools
[21:26] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: you can run "which cordova" to see where it's trying to run from
[21:26] <OerHeks> Jack_L, why do you need an answer?
[21:26] <Bushmaster> cool gr33n7007h i am just following idle, a basic shell that book suggested, do u do lots of programming, mainly mathematical one?
[21:27] <Jack_L> OerHeks: I'm worried about safety issues. I haven't executed the file, just deleted.
[21:27] <VictorSeb> Thanks, wafflej0ck. It is trying to run it from /usr/local/bin/cordova
[21:27] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: you can also ls -al on that path it gave to see if it's a symbolic link to somewhere else
[21:27] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: but basically if that file is where it says it is then it should run fine
[21:28] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, not really python more ruby :)
[21:28] <OerHeks> Jack_L, no worry about downloading only.
[21:28] <VictorSeb> wafflej0ck: hmm, running ls -al showed me: /usr/local/bin/cordova -> ../lib/node_modules/cordova/bin/cordova
[21:29] <Guest57250> Looking for help with 14.04 and wifi, using wpa.
[21:29] <Jack_L> OerHeks, Ok then. Thanks for the answer.
[21:30] <VictorSeb> I'll take a look at lonic. I didn't know it. Thanks,  wafflej0ck.
[21:31] <Guest57250> Using an older Dell Inspiron 9300 with an Intel 2200bg based wifi.
[21:31] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: yeah np I'm pretty experienced with AngularJS you can join the #angularjs chat if you go with cordova too and need to know about the JS framework itself
[21:31] <Bushmaster> thanks for the help anyway, gr33n7007h  bye for now
[21:31] <eVangList> can someone write marijuana in dash and type enter? i think im geting a bug
[21:31] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, np
[21:32] <Guest57250> can connect to open wifi, but not wpa secured.
[21:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, can u connect manually?
[21:32] <Guest57250> tried editing wpa_supplicant.conf and network/interfaces without success
[21:32] <VictorSeb> wafflej0ck: all right, thanks :)
[21:33] <Guest57250> I can connect via wired connection or to an open network
[21:33] <Guest57250> but it just prompts me for the connection pwd when I try to use WPA
[21:34] <eVangList> you need to save the passwords in kwallet
[21:34] <Guest57250> have removed and re-installed wpagui, wpasupplicant, networkmanager
[21:34] <gr33n7007h> Is the router your trying to connect to WPA?
[21:35] <Guest57250> yes.   this connection worked for the first couple of months using 14.04, but stopped about a month ago after an ubuntu update
[21:35] <Guest57250> several other devices connect to the router using wpa
[21:36] <eVangList> have you tryed kismet?
[21:36] <Guest57250> posted an entry in askubuntu, but no answer yet
[21:38] <Guest57250> I can see the secured networks listed, but cannot connect to any of those (where I know the pwd).
[21:38] <Guest57250> and the wpa_gui does not show any of the detail and does not scan
[21:39] <Guest57250> any ideas on a good site for guidance? --- I have tried 20+
[21:39] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250,   Try and connect manually first: "wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase > wpa.conf"
[21:39] <Guest57250> I do that and get a psk back just fine
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, "wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlanN -cwpa.conf"
[21:40] <Guest57250> then I cut/paste that psk into the wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> change N for the number of your interface
[21:40] <bekks> Guest57250: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, no nedd to cut/paste
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> *need
[21:41] <Guest57250> when you are using wpa.conf, do you mean that literally or shorthand for wpa_supplicant.conf?
[21:42] <gr33n7007h> no literally
[21:42] <Guest57250> all the doc says wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:42] <Nbersain> Hey all, I tried to get some help yesterday with my new Ubuntu installation but I have gotten nowhere.
[21:42] <gr33n7007h> doesn't matter this creates it: "wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase > wpa.conf"
[21:43] <Guest57250> trying
[21:44] <DuckDude> hi :D
[21:44] <volty> I want to whoever to run cpufreq-set, so in sudoers I inserted:   ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set
[21:44] <volty> what's wrong (i cannot execute it)
[21:44] <volty> ?
[21:44] <Nbersain> I'm about to just reinstall windows and forget about using Linux, stiff just dosen't work the way I want it to.  Help please?
[21:45] <Nbersain> Stuff*
[21:45] <eVangList> buy a mac
[21:45] <eVangList> you get the same experience only alot more expensive
[21:46] <Nbersain> No, I'm determined to get this to work.
[21:46] <Guest57250> no go.   pasting in the session....
[21:46] <Guest57250> root@patrick-Inspiron-9300:/etc# wpa_passphrase belkin.666 3eb6B632 > wpa.conf
[21:46] <Guest57250> root@patrick-Inspiron-9300:/etc# wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -ieth1 -cwpa.conf
[21:46] <Guest57250> Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
[21:46] <Guest57250> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[21:46] <Guest57250> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[21:46] <unopaste> Guest57250 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:46] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, eth1 is wired
[21:47] <DuckDude> stupid bot lel
[21:47] <eVangList> wep
[21:47] <tonygaga> hi guys short question i what's up with the reverse-i-search has it been updated or is it just my version ? it shows multiple hits from the history and you can choose between them...
[21:48] <Guest57250> in mine eth0 is wired and eth1 is wireless
[21:48] <tonygaga> lol that english.
[21:48] <tonygaga> whatever, i think i messed up my reverse-i-search
[21:49] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, is it built in wireless?
[21:49] <eVangList> is that when someone from the internet searches your computer?
[21:50] <Guest57250> builtin Intel 2200BG card
[21:50] <tonygaga> if smb could help me i would be very glad
[21:50] <Gray> tonygaga; what issue do you have?
[21:50] <eVangList> !seen smb
[21:51] <Gray> eVangList, he meant 'somebody'
[21:51] <tonygaga> Gray: it doesn't look like my old search when i reverse search for commands (you know, the one liner where you can repeatedly press ctrl r to go through)
[21:51] <tonygaga> Gray: but rather a list which is grepped live
[21:51] <Gray> tonygaga; what search are you referring to?
[21:52] <geirha> oh, reverse-history-search?
[21:52] <tonygaga> command line reverse-i-search
[21:52] <Gray> ah
[21:52] <geirha> err, reverse-search-history
[21:52] <tonygaga> geirha: what's up with that
[21:53] <geirha> tonygaga: Don't know. I don't remember there being any changes to it lately
[21:53] <tonygaga> i didn't change anything on my system apart from messing a bit with color depths from the terminal
[21:53] <Guest57250> gr33n7007h   I opened a separate window
[21:53] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, try a simple "ifconfig eth1 down && ifconfig eth1 up" and try to reconnect using network-manager?
[21:54] <geirha> tonygaga: are you sure you're using bash?  run  ps -p $$
[21:54] <tonygaga> geirha: what is ctrl+T for?
[21:54] <tonygaga> geirha: because it looks very similar to that ok lemme check
[21:54] <tonygaga> yea its bash
[21:54] <tonygaga> xterm if im not wrong
[21:55] <geirha> ctrl+t is bount to transpose chars by default; never used it myself
[21:55] <geirha> *bound
[21:55] <Guest57250> will put result  in other dialoge window --- have tried similar before
[21:55] <gr33n7007h> ok
[21:56] <tonygaga> geirha: ok ... very strange because i accid. pressed ctrl t instead of t and i think it looks different now because of that but i could be wrong
[21:56] <tonygaga> *instead of  r
[21:57] <eVangList> im wondering what unicorn shit smells like
[21:57] <DaGuich> eVangList: lol? :D
[21:57] <geirha> tonygaga: bind -p | grep '\\C-t'
[21:57] <tonygaga> geirha: nothing
[21:58] <irgendwer4711> hi, how to get a list of installed packages and a list of these packages and versions numbers if I would do a dist-upgrade?
[21:58] <DaGuich> eVangList: everything okay with you? :D
[21:58] <geirha> tonygaga: then Ctrl+t is not bound to anything
[21:58] <tonygaga> irgendwer4711: https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages
[21:59] <tonygaga> geirha: that's strange because it does sth
[21:59] <irgendwer4711> tonygaga: for my system
[21:59] <tonygaga> ubuntu is debian based
[21:59] <irgendwer4711> tonygaga: should show the new versions!
[21:59] <eVangList> once i toke MnMs and the the dude told me you could see unicorns but all i saw was white elephants
[21:59] <tonygaga> geirha: it shows every file in the current dir
[21:59] <DaGuich> irgendwer4711: read the site
[22:00] <irgendwer4711> DaGuich: there is no hint for this
[22:00] <PixelButterfly> hello bekks
[22:00] <geirha> tonygaga: Odd
[22:00] <tonygaga> geirha: yea.. i think i might try turning it off and on again xD
[22:00] <tonygaga> geirha: i really ned ctrlR
[22:00] <eVangList> i hop they get their mobile linux toghether so i can install kali on my phone
[22:00] <tonygaga> need
[22:01] <PixelButterfly> I did what you suggested and I got it to "connect". but I can't connect to anything, can't ping anything including IP addresses within my own network, etc
[22:01] <DaGuich> irgendwer4711: auf der seite steht wie es geht...
[22:01] <irgendwer4711> DaGuich: nein tut es nicht
[22:01] <geirha> tonygaga: bind -q reverse-search-history
[22:01] <geirha> should say: reverse-search-history can be invoked via "\C-r".
[22:02] <eVangList> oh you think your so cleaver cause to speak german?
[22:02] <irgendwer4711> eVangList: who?
[22:02] <tonygaga> geirha: nothing just shows >
[22:02] <eVangList> is anyone else speaking german in here?
[22:02] <irgendwer4711> yes
[22:03] <eVangList> wonderbar
[22:03] <irgendwer4711> or maybe you filtered DaGuich
[22:03] <geirha> tonygaga: >? is that your PS1 prompt?
[22:03] <DaGuich> over here :D
[22:03] <genii> !ot | eVangList
[22:03] <Webster`> anyone able and willing to help out with a 'crashed' ext4 partition?
[22:03] <geirha> tonygaga: try Ctrl+c to abort the current command, then try again
[22:03] <tonygaga> geirha: i'll just reboot before you'll waste more time / ich werde einfach kurz rebooten bevor du mehr zeit vergeudest
[22:04] <geirha> reboot shouldn't make a difference
[22:04] <NegativeFlare> !german | eVangList
[22:04] <irgendwer4711> lol
[22:04] <tonygaga> geirha: hmm
[22:04] <tehcereal> hello anyone uses hexchat? I need to see if only my install is bugged or not
[22:05] <tehcereal> if oyu type /list does it open a new window?
[22:05] <Webster`> anyone able and willing to help out with a 'crashed' ext4 partition?
[22:05] <tehcereal> or just lists the channels in the server window?
[22:05] <NegativeFlare> !repeate | Webster`
[22:05] <irgendwer4711> try testdisk Webster`
[22:05] <NegativeFlare> !repeat | Webster`
[22:05] <NegativeFlare> ._.
[22:05] <Webster`> :]
[22:05] <geirha> Tondinahk: >  is the default PS2-prompt, which is shown when you have an unclosed command
[22:06] <eVangList> a friend of mine tells me only the boers use ubuntu
[22:06] <tonygaga> geirha: you where right ...
[22:06] <tonygaga> were
[22:06] <tehcereal> anyone?:D
[22:06] <irgendwer4711> now how to list the packages I would get this dist-upgrade?
[22:07] <eVangList> everyone is hanged over for the release party
[22:07] <Webster`> irgendwer4711, testdisk seems like extundelete in that it recovers to another partition.. unfortunately I haven't got the space for that. It does seem like my filesystem is intact after fsck, but there are no files
[22:07] <geirha> tonygaga: >  is the default PS2-prompt, which is shown when you have an unclosed comman<d
[22:07] <irgendwer4711> Webster`: use knoppix
[22:07] <eVangList> how do i defrag the HDD using ubuntu?
[22:08] <irgendwer4711> LOL
[22:08] <Webster`> irgendwer4711: livecd u mean?
[22:08] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: you don't need too, EXT4 doesn't need defragging.
[22:08] <irgendwer4711> Webster`: yes, do you running your crashed pc?
[22:08] <eVangList> like that makes any sence
[22:08] <tonygaga> geirha: i don't really understand.. i though i was on ps1
[22:08] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: I can provide links :)
[22:08] <eVangList> lies
[22:08] <tonygaga> geirha: are changes affected immediately from the ~/.bashrc ?
[22:09] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: http://www.howtogeek.com/115229/htg-explains-why-linux-doesnt-need-defragmenting/
[22:09] <eVangList> keep drinking the coolaid
[22:10] <think> ext4 filesystem already allocates files in an intelligent way unlike fat which is why you defrag that
[22:10] <Webster`> irgendwer4711: pc is running, it just one data drive that crashed.. I was stupid enough to try ZFS without properly reading manuals.. that fucked the partition
[22:10] <eVangList> Linux file systems scatter different files all over the disk, leaving a large amount of free space between them.
[22:10] <geirha> tonygaga: Not in existing shells. Run  source ~/.bashrc  to re-source it
[22:10] <eVangList> how coll is that
[22:11] <eVangList> cool*
[22:11] <Jordan_U> eVangList: Stop the offtopic comments, this is your last warning. If you have an Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it.
[22:11] <eVangList> my bad
[22:12] <tonygaga> geirha: so this'export TERM=xterm-256color' is the only thing i changed since it doesn't work ... and i just checked that
[22:13] <geirha> tonygaga: that will fail horribly if you run it in a terminal that is not xterm compatible and supports 256 colors
[22:14] <Webster`> how does knoppix differ from ubuntu when the OS disk is fine?
[22:14] <geirha> TERM should ideally only ever be set by your terminal emulator; never by the shell
[22:14] <bekks> Webster`: We dont know, since Knoppix is not an Ubuntu derivative.
[22:14] <tonygaga> geirha: it works for vim.. ok i'll reverse that
[22:15] <sacarlson> Webster`: as I recall it was much smaller
[22:15] <Webster`> sacarlson: I downloaded the 4GB DVD, making bootable usb now
[22:15] <eVangList> theres a new emacs version with embed web server
[22:16] <sacarlson> Webster`: 4gb I would assume that's ubuntu then
[22:16] <eVangList> ?
[22:17] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: You were warned.
[22:17] <Webster`> sacarlson: KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso          14-Sep-2014 16:12  4.0G
[22:17] <tonygaga> geirha:
[22:17] <tonygaga> http://imgur.com/MNKK3nz
[22:17] <genii> eVangList: You've already been told not to clutter the support channel with offtopic ramblings. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic instead as you were already asked
[22:17] <eVangList> Because of the way this approach works, you will start to see fragmentation if your file system fills up. If it’s 95% (or even 80%) full, you’ll start to see some fragmentation.
[22:17] <tonygaga> this is what it looks lke
[22:18] <eVangList> so its seem theres fragmentation after all
[22:18] <geirha> tonygaga: ok, so you've changed the PS1 prompt to > ?
[22:19] <tonygaga> no
[22:19] <geirha> tonygaga: Then what am I looking at?
[22:19] <tonygaga> geirha: when i press ctrl + R
[22:20] <tonygaga> geirha: propmt is still default aka user@pc:~$
[22:21] <geirha> tonygaga: Ok, do you get your prompt back if you hit Ctrl+c?
[22:21] <tonygaga> yes
[22:21] <geirha> then run  bind -p | grep '\\C-r'
[22:21] <CRCinAU> Greetings all - I'm trying to do a Xen install of Ubuntu (tried both 14.05 LTS & 14.10 - but I can't get the VFB to work so I can see what is going on....
[22:21] <tonygaga> "\C-x\C-r": re-read-init-file
[22:21] <tonygaga> "\e\C-r": revert-line
[22:21] <CRCinAU> I'm using the vmlinuz & initrd.gz in the xen directory of the download site.
[22:22] <CRCinAU> The same procedure works for Debian & CentOS... but I get no display on the Ubuntu installers... Any ideas?
[22:23] <geirha> tonygaga: ok, so readline doesn't have Ctrl+r bound at all, so maybe your terminal emulator is doing something weird.   Do you see ^R anywhere in the output of   stty -a   ?
[22:23] <tonygaga> rprnt = ^R
[22:23] <geirha> tonygaga: and have you modified any files named inputrc or similar lately
[22:23] <tonygaga> nope
[22:24] <tonygaga> geirha: only messed around with vim colors yesterday and it worked also yesterday
[22:24] <Jordan_U> CRCinAU: What is the exact path you downloaded these files from?
[22:25] <geirha> tonygaga: If you run:   bind '"\C-r": reverse-search-history'    does Ctrl+R start working?
[22:26] <tonygaga> geirha: i didn't have the balls to try that...but if you say so
[22:26] <tonygaga> geirha: thx man it works :)
[22:26] <CRCinAU> gimme a sec - I'll have to get there again - this was last night....
[22:26] <CRCinAU> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[22:26] <tonygaga> geirha: but really. wtf? can you explain that?
[22:26] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: I thought they renamed some time back to initrd.lz
[22:26] <geirha> tonygaga: that is a default binding though. So question is, where does it get removed?  Has to be in .bashrc, .intpurc, /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/inputrc
[22:27] <CRCinAU> sacarlson: I dunno - I can only go off whats in the directory :
[22:27] <CRCinAU> :\
[22:27] <CRCinAU> I'm not an ubuntu guy myself - but I'm offering the option of the install to peeps
[22:28] <geirha> tonygaga: I can't explain why that has happened based on the information you've given so far, no
[22:28] <CRCinAU> I renamed those files then use this as the Xen config: kernel          = "/root/ubuntu-14.05-lts-vmlinuz"
[22:28] <CRCinAU> ramdisk         = "/root/ubuntu-14.05-lts-initrd.gz"
[22:28] <CRCinAU> extra           = "debian-installer/exit/always_halt=true -- console=tty0"
[22:29] <CRCinAU> I get some output on the hvc0 console - which is strange
[22:29] <CRCinAU> but no installer menu
[22:30] <CRCinAU> tty0 == the VFB that I can use via Xen / VNC
[22:30] <dom__> hi
[22:30] <tonygaga> geirha: i just looked at all of them... nothing suspicious .. also date last modified is way back..
[22:31] <tonygaga> geirha: whatever... i'm just very glad it works again, and if it happens again i'll digg deeper wher it does get kicked out. thanks alot for your time
[22:32] <dom__> I got a problem when installing ubuntu (tried 14.04.1 and 14.10 snapshot 4 days ago not the final) on surface pro 3 at the grub install (I tried secure boot on/off, on efi partition, on a new efi partion ...), where can I get some info on the error because the error message is not verbose ?
[22:33] <tonygaga> geirha: welp it just worked for that session i had opened of course..
[22:33] <azizLIGHT> can i clone my ubuntu desktop hdd to a external nas and restore from the nas?
[22:33] <azizLIGHT> like a snapshot
[22:33] <CRCinAU> hmmm - if I pass: console=hvc0 then I get output onto the xen console - but nothing on tty0
[22:33] <geirha> tonygaga: Yes, because something is removing the binding every time you start an interactive bash shell
[22:34] <geirha> Until you figure it out, you can put the bind command at the end of .bashrc
[22:38] <tonygaga> http://pastebin.com/FFv8Ziry
[22:38] <CRCinAU> hmmmm
[22:38] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled
[22:38] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [hvc0] enabled
[22:38] <tonygaga> the other files aren't modified since '13
[22:39] <plut0> mplayer is displaying video text in spanish instead of english. what am i doing wrong?
[22:40] <Webster`> I have knoppix on a bootable USB, what are the steps to attempt partition recovery?
[22:41] <tonygaga> Webster`: press J
[22:41] <tonygaga> uups plut0 press J
[22:41] <tonygaga> geirha: did you see my paste?
[22:42] <plut0> tonygaga: i don't think it's a subtitle
[22:42] <plut0> tonygaga: its in the video itself
[22:42] <OerHeks> Webster`, ext2/3/4 or fat32/ntfs ?
[22:42] <Webster`> OerHeks: ext4
[22:42] <tonygaga> plut0: oh
[22:43] <OerHeks> Webster`, testdisk, not sure if that is on a knoppix iso
[22:43] <geirha> tonygaga: ~/.fzf.bash  ?
[22:43] <Webster`> OerHeks: testdisk entails copying to another partition?
[22:43] <OerHeks> Webster`, do you have a hdd free for rescue?
[22:43] <OerHeks> Webster`, yes
[22:44] <Webster`> unfortunately I dont have a disk available for that
[22:44] <Webster`> I'm not sure, but I might have fubarred the inode table (whatever that is)
[22:44] <Webster`> currently running fsck.ext4
[22:44] <OerHeks> try testdisk, it should find folders/files rightaway ... or not at all
[22:45] <Webster`> OerHeks: I can mount the drive, it shows correct 'disk usage' but no files/folders
[22:45] <tonygaga> geirha: yea ... i think vi did change some stuff here
[22:45] <ratsarebig> Webster`: try disk chat
[22:45] <tonygaga> geirha: bind -m vi-command '"\C-r": "i\C-r"'
[22:46] <tonygaga> that's under #CTRL-R
[22:46] <geirha> tonygaga: Oh, are you using vi mode?
[22:46] <tonygaga> yep
[22:46] <geirha> tonygaga: that explains it
[22:47] <ratsarebig> geirha: Yo
[22:48] <geirha> ratsarebig: Stop that
[22:49] <tonygaga> this is what ctrl r exactly does
[22:49] <tonygaga> "\eddi$(HISTTIMEFORMAT= history | fzf +s +m -n2..,.. | sed \"s/ *[0-9]* *//\")\C-x\C-e\e$a\C-x\C-r"'
[22:50] <tonygaga> geirha: should i just change it with the standard reverse-i?
[22:50] <ratsarebig> Ubuntu is the easiest Linux distro for home use
[22:50] <CRCinAU> ratsarebig: I disagree - but hey ;)
[22:51] <geirha> tonygaga: I have no idea what fzf does, and I don't really care. It is clearly what is rebinding Cltr+r
[22:51] <CRCinAU> but whatever the case, Ubuntu have broken the Xen installer :\
[22:52] <ratsarebig> CRCinAU thinks android is greatest Linux in world
[22:52] <CRCinAU> ratsarebig: and its nice for you to tell me I'm a 'big black jackass' - but please don't pm me.... ;)
[22:53] <geirha> CRCinAU: Don't mind him, it's a troll
[22:53] <ratsarebig> Ubuntu just works
[22:53] <CRCinAU> so does Windows ;)
[22:54] <tonygaga> geirha: sry i didn't want to annoy you
[22:55] <CRCinAU> So - when I go to install Ubuntu 10.05 LTS to a Xen PV DomU, I get this in the kernel boot messages:
[22:55] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled
[22:55] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [hvc0] enabled
[22:55] <CRCinAU> yet I get no output on tty0
[22:55] <geirha> tonygaga: I was talking about ratsarebig, he messaged me, and likely others, with foul language
[22:55] <Ben64> CRCinAU: there is no 10.05
[22:56] <CRCinAU> sorry, 14.05 ;)
[22:56] <ratsarebig> Try ctrl-alt f1 CRCinAU
[22:56] <Ben64> CRCinAU: no 14.05 either
[22:56] <CRCinAU> o_O
[22:56] <Jordan_U> CRCinAU: Do you get output via hvc0?
[22:56] <Ben64> 14.04 probably?
[22:56] <CRCinAU> ahh - I must have typo'ed the filenames ;)
[22:56] <Ben64> ok, was wondering
[22:57] <CRCinAU> I get output on hvc0 - but then even passing console=tty0 to the installer doesn't give output on tty0 - it just removes the output from hvc0
[22:57] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: ya it's posible your whole problem is some typo
[22:58] <tonygaga> geirha: ok.. i changed .fzf.bash and did source it but it still doesnt work.. do i have to initialize anything else? also this is what the files looks like: http://pastebin.com/vDqGxpx7
[22:59] <CRCinAU> and wow..... ratsarebig is the first person I've added to an ignore list on Freenode in ~5 years....
[23:01] <Jordan_U> ratsarebig: Please keep your comments here on topic, and please do not PM abusive messages to other users.
[23:01] <CRCinAU> ok - so I've renamed the files - and the Xen config..... (not that the filenames matter in any way) to use this:
[23:01] <geirha> tonygaga: Looks like you've changed the one inside the "else" block, but not the one inside the "then" block
[23:01] <CRCinAU> kernel          = "/root/ubuntu-14.04-lts-vmlinuz"
[23:01] <CRCinAU> ramdisk         = "/root/ubuntu-14.04-lts-initrd.gz"
[23:01] <CRCinAU> extra           = "debian-installer/exit/always_halt=true -- console=tty0"
[23:01] <tonygaga> geirha: oops didnt see the upper ctrl r
[23:01] <tonygaga> geirha: works like a charm now
[23:02] <tonygaga> geirha: yea you also found it :)
[23:02] <CRCinAU> the kernel boots, then I get no output anywhere after:
[23:02] <CRCinAU> [    1.389173] Freeing unused kernel memory: 692K (ffff880001b53000 - ffff880001c00000)
[23:02] <CRCinAU> [    1.406045] systemd-udevd[84]: starting version 204
[23:03] <Jordan_U> CRCinAU: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for any output that's more than one line.
[23:04] <tonygaga> geirha: how can i thank you?
[23:05] <siwica> as I am running Linux but dont program in C, can anyone give me some good reading material on what "./configure && make && make install" actually does?
[23:05] <CRCinAU> well, I'll download the images again - just incase....
[23:05] <Jordan_U> siwica: To start, do you understand that you should rarely if ever install programs that way?
[23:05] <CRCinAU> siwica: they're magic scripts ;)
[23:05] <CRCinAU> tbh - they have nothing to do with C....
[23:06] <CRCinAU> but with the right setup - they perform magic.
[23:06] <tonygaga> siwica: you know what a compiler is?
[23:06] <geirha> tonygaga: paint me a diploma of suffience in tuxpaint ... or just say thank you, I don't know. You're welcome.
[23:06] <CRCinAU> I use make to build a whole heap of PDFs - including abort / resume support etc.... its nothing short of pure magic...
[23:07] <rypervenche> siwica: Check your private message.
[23:09] <tafa2>  anyone know of a good game/trivia channel?
[23:10] <bazhang> !alis | tafa2
[23:10] <tafa2> cool thanks
[23:12] <CRCinAU> hmmmm
[23:12] <CRCinAU> I wonder:
[23:12] <CRCinAU> [    1.394012] xenbus_probe_frontend: Device with no driver: device/vfb/0
[23:13] <CRCinAU> is it possible that Ubuntu don't ship support for the xen vfb in the Xen installer? o_O
[23:14] <CRCinAU> hahahhahahahaha
[23:14] <CRCinAU> If I use the Debian Wheezy kernel (vmlinuz) then pass it the Ubuntu initrd.gz, then it all works.
[23:14] <NeedHelp> Hi, all!
[23:14] <CRCinAU> hence the Ubuntu kernel config is broken ;)
[23:15] <NeedHelp> I need some help, is there someone to help me?
[23:15] <willwh> NeedHelp: what's up
[23:15] <NeedHelp> I've got suddenly black fonts on my desktop + terminal and I'm not able to lock my screen with the hotkey.
[23:16] <NeedHelp> I've tried updating and upgrading, nothing new.
[23:17] <CRCinAU> then I don't get any network drivers though....
[23:17] <CRCinAU> but meh.
[23:17] <willwh> NeedHelp: uh, you must have made some recent changes, if you have black fonts? (like a theme change?)
[23:17] <CRCinAU> probably due to the different kernel versions.....
[23:17] <willwh> or partial theme change?
[23:17] <NeedHelp> I did a theme change before, I had no problems.
[23:17] <willwh> no idea about your locking screen with a hotkey
[23:18] <tonygaga> geirha: http://imgur.com/MONITMS
[23:18] <NeedHelp> Let me try to change to standard theme.
[23:18] <willwh> well, this kind of thing usually does not just magically happen
[23:18] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: I think ubuntu has a package of a kernel that does support xen
[23:19] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: but it's not the default kernel
[23:19] <CRCinAU> sacarlson: this was supposed to be the Xen image from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[23:19] <after_r> Hello
[23:19] <narhen> hi
[23:19] <after_r> I have a script i wrote in php... when I call php -f myscript.php is just dumps the script and not executes it
[23:20] <after_r> with or without the <?php ?> tags around the code
[23:20] <after_r> what gives?
[23:20] <after_r> this has happened with me before
[23:20] <after_r> i had to use php4
[23:20] <EriC^^> maybe try without the -f ?
[23:20] <bekks> php4 - that must have been more than a decade ago.
[23:20] <after_r> nevermind
[23:20] <CRCinAU> as I'm not an ubuntu guy, wheres the best place to do bug reports?
[23:20] <after_r> i got it to work
[23:21] <bekks> !bug
[23:21] <after_r> idk even know
[23:21] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: I do remember long ago that netboot had something missing, but I'm not sure that is still the case
[23:21] <after_r> i hope i can install ubuntu on a macbookpro8,3
[23:21] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion 'closure->ref_count > 0' failed
[23:21] <tonygaga> geirha: feel free to delete it ;)
[23:23] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gobject/gclosure.c:688: unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier: 0x7f49aa152e00 (0x7f49b450de50)
[23:23] <NeedHelp> what is that?
[23:24] <NeedHelp> someone can help?
[23:24] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gobject/gclosure.c:688: unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier: 0x7f49aa152e00 (0x7f49b450de50)
[23:25] <NeedHelp> nobody is online?
[23:25] <siwica> Jordan_U: sorry I was away for a sec. Why shouldn't I install programs that way?
[23:26] <Guest10416> Could anyone help me with twinview? I can't find the option in Nvidia-settings, and see no way to enable it.
[23:26] <WhiteCrane> how do i defrag ubuntu
[23:26] <after_r> I have a question...
[23:26] <bekks> WhiteCrane: You dont need to.
[23:26] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gobject/gclosure.c:688: unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier: 0x7f49aa152e00 (0x7f49b450de50)
[23:26] <WhiteCrane> how do i run scandisk?
[23:26] <siwica> tonygaga: I do know what a compiler is
[23:26] <EriC^^> WhiteCrane: fsck?
[23:26] <after_r> in the downloads page, there used to be a link for an ISO build for Macs .. but the current page doesnt' have that?
[23:26] <bubbasaures> WhiteCrane, you don't have to defragglinux.
[23:26] <bekks> WhiteCrane: For running scandisk, use Windows.
[23:26] <after_r> for a 64bit mac specifically
[23:27] <WhiteCrane> what is the equvilant of scandisk to linux?
[23:27] <WhiteCrane> mac os x has disk util
[23:27] <after_r> it said like (includes extra bits for macs)
[23:27] <EriC^^> WhiteCrane: fsck , i guess
[23:27] <willwh> fsck
[23:27] <bekks> WhiteCrane: badblocks is the equivalent of scandisk.
[23:27] <bekks> fsck is the equivalent of chkdsk
[23:27] <willwh> bekks would be correct
[23:27] <willwh> :P
[23:27] <willwh> o/
[23:28] <WhiteCrane> is jfs better than ext4?
[23:28] <rww> no
[23:28] <NeedHelp> everything is fucked up, I need some help
[23:28] <bekks> WhiteCrane: that depends on you personal opinion.
[23:29] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: family friendly channel watch the language
[23:29] <NeedHelp> at least I got corrected for my language!
[23:30] <after_r> I am looking at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ and I am unclear about what to get if I have a 2011 macbook pro 17" with a 64bit intel quad code i7..
[23:30] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: What version are you running?
[23:30] <after_r> quad core *
[23:30] <bekks> NeedHelp: What did you expect? You did not even state your actual problem.
[23:30] <after_r> I should get the AMD64 iso right?
[23:30] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: yeah hard to find your problem in all the text above, would be easier if you write up a ubuntuforum post and link to it then you can include a screenshot and the full explanation
[23:30] <after_r> but the "PC (Intel x86)" states "as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors." so ???
[23:30] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: will be easier to get help that way
[23:31] <bekks> after_r: you have to use the mac version, not the "PC (Intel x86)"
[23:31] <NeedHelp> Well, I see my desktop files with black fonts, also in terminal. I can't change icon themes, I can not lock my screen.
[23:31] <WhiteCrane> why cant i use reiserfs
[23:31] <after_r> bekks: so does "as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors." refer to some non-laptop macs like the towers?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> siwica: Because applications installed by compiling from source aren't managed by the package manager, and in addition to being harder to install they're harder to keep track of and remove. Do you know how to use the package manager to install software?
[23:32] <bekks> WhiteCrane: Because it is discontinued.
[23:32] <NeedHelp> Can + the hotkeys for changing the brightness changing the volume doensn't work anymore.
[23:32] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:32] <WhiteCrane> murderfs is gone?
[23:32] <bekks> after_r: No. It refers to the fact that they just use Intel processors.
[23:32] <bekks> after_r: They still are macs.
[23:32] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: what exact version are you using, can you not lock the screen with the panels/menus or just can't lock it using a keyboard shortcut?
[23:32] <NeedHelp> Linux lap 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:32] <NeedHelp> keyboard shortcut
[23:33] <after_r> hmm.. ok i dont get it it but whatev
[23:33] <rohan> is the latest version of nvidia in ubuntu 14.10 still 331?
[23:33] <bekks> after_r: Aple just changed the processors used - that doesnt convert a MAc to a PC magically.
[23:33] <siwica> Jordan_U: yes I know how to use it. But packages there tend to be outdated. The new Emacs 24.4 is not even in the official repos.
[23:34] <Jordan_U> !info emacs24 | siwica
[23:34] <after_r> bekks: I just thought that all Intet-based Macs have the 64 bit chip
[23:34] <after_r> Intel-based *
[23:34] <narhen> i'm having some problems with setting up a guest VM. I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen . when I run 'xl create -c /etc/xen/ubuntu.cfg' I get this error: libxl: error: libxl_dom.c:35:libxl__domain_type: unable to get domain type for domid=5
[23:35] <narhen> Unable to attach console
[23:35] <siwica> this aint 24.4?!
[23:35] <Jordan_U> after_r: There are (older) 32 bit intel macs.
[23:35] <narhen> has anyone experienced the same problem? any suggestions on how to fix it?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> siwica: Indeed, I missed the sub version.
[23:35] <after_r> oh. well then "newer" should be "older" in as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors.
[23:35] <after_r> but yeah I know
[23:35] <NeedHelp> Nobody knows a solution for this?
[23:35] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: Ok so 14.04 try this link, sounds like compiz got corrupted when you were doing theme changes http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:35] <bekks> after_r: They do. That doesnt magically convert them into PCs.
[23:35] <after_r> NeedHelp: what?
[23:36] <zava> quick question. Are noobs frowned upon by the linux community?
[23:36] <Ben64> no
[23:36] <zava> some guy in the git channel creeped me out
[23:37] <siwica> Jordan_U: so you dont see the need to compile from source?!
[23:37] <after_r> NeedHelp: try running this: xcalib -i -a
[23:37] <Jordan_U> siwica: What features were added between 24.3 and 24.4 that you need?
[23:38] <NeedHelp> I did run it
[23:38] <after_r> did it invert your screen?
[23:38] <NeedHelp> Didn't got response or something from the terminal.
[23:38] <NeedHelp> Nothing has changed.
[23:39] <zacarias1> Hi. Do you know if there are any i386 packages available for Opera? I can't find other than the amd64 package
[23:39] <siwica> Jordan_U: actually this doesnt matter for my question, but there are quite a few like an integrated webbrowser "eww"
[23:39] <zacarias1> Sorry, I mean Beta packages
[23:40] <zacarias1> Do you know if there are any i386 BETA packages available for Opera? I can't find other than the amd64 package
[23:40] <WhiteCrane> FUCK UBUNTU
[23:40] <WhiteCrane> WINDOWS 8.1 IS BETTER
[23:40] <Jordan_U> siwica: Then ideally you would create an updated source package and build a proper .deb from that, but yes that is more work than just "./configure && make && sudo make install".
[23:40] <NeedHelp> unity-reset didn't work either.
[23:41] <zacarias1> Do you know if there are any i386 BETA packages available for Opera? I can't find other than the amd64 package
[23:41] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: setsid unity
[23:41] <NeedHelp> I downloaded the .deb file then did unity-reset, it did reset but nothing has changed.
[23:41] <NeedHelp> @EriC still nothing has changed
[23:42] <NeedHelp> Should I paste this log somewhere?
[23:42] <hide_> hi
[23:43] <siwica> Jordan_U: I was told to run "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install" for this purpose?!
[23:43] <OerHeks> zacarias1, Opera 24 Developer for Linux (64bit deb only for now!)
[23:44] <Jordan_U> siwica: That is slightly better than "sudo make install", as it will create a package which can be installed and removed with the package manager, but still less ideal than creating a proper source package.
[23:45] <Guest10416> Is there some way to enable twinview? It's not a visible option in nvidia-settings
[23:45] <siwica> Jordan_U: is there some reading on how to do this then?
[23:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: maybe try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[23:45] <EriC^^> ( sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop )
[23:45] <NeedHelp> will I lose any data?
[23:46] <EriC^^> no, i don't think so
[23:46] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: pasted this earlier unity-reset does not work in 13.04-10, or 14.04 NeedHelp: Ok so 14.04 try this link, sounds like compiz got corrupted when you were doing theme changes http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:46] <EriC^^> ( maybe configs, not sure about that )
[23:50] <NeedHelp> it looks like there is no solution for this problem
[23:50] <cbjaxx> did you see my post?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> siwica: Yes, but given how complicated it is: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html I suspect that you'll just want to use checkinstall, or simply wait for someone to package the newest emacs (which I expect won't take long).
[23:52] <NeedHelp> cbjaxx you just copied/pasted the poste from before, I've seen that link already unity-reset didn't work.
[23:53] <cbjaxx> I said unity-reset does not work .. it says that in the first line
[23:54] <NeedHelp> Well, what should I do then?
[23:54] <cbjaxx> there is a download in the link to walk you through the process
[23:55] <NeedHelp> I did that already.
[23:55] <NeedHelp> It is not working unfortunately.
[23:56] <cbjaxx> so when you run apt-cache quality dconf what does it tell you?
[23:56] <cbjaxx> err policy not quality
[23:57] <NeedHelp> dconf:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: (none)   Version table:
[23:57] <cbjaxx> so do apt-get install dconf
[23:57] <cbjaxx> wil need sudo
[23:57] <cbjaxx> will pm you will be easier and less chatty
[23:58] <NeedHelp> ok