[00:06] <knome> yes, there is
[00:13] <phenom> Great. Can I know the "plan"? Lol.
[00:13] <phenom> Annoying bug.
[00:14] <phenom> I gather the problem is with power manager?
[09:42] <Naphatul> after the update the panel remains a grey-ish color no matter which theme i chose, any ideas?
[09:43] <XubuntuUser> how can i fix weather applet in xfce 4.11?
[09:43] <XubuntuUser> xfce4-weather-plugin 0.8.3
[09:44] <XubuntuUser> xfce 4.10*
[10:22] <Naphatul> it seems the panel never applies the system theme just gets stuck with the solid color selections
[10:25] <ObrienDave> set desktop background style to something other than "none"
[10:27] <Naphatul> how?
[10:28] <ObrienDave> settings, desktop, background tab, style. middle right
[10:29] <Naphatul> well that's already set... and it worked fine before upgrading to 14.10
[10:32] <ObrienDave> hmm, well, i don;t know, then. i don't use themes
[10:33] <Naphatul> well it's the default theme
[12:33] <alket> hi , is there any ppa to get latest version of xfce for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:33] <Alexfrench> hello all
[14:48] <Alexfrench> anyone know which version is openoffice on xubuntu ?
[14:48] <Alexfrench> if it is disposable
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, "disposable"????
[14:49] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, by default, xubuntu 14.04 = abiword.  you can *replace* it if you choose
[14:49] <Alexfrench> ah it is not a english word ???
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, english; yes.  not sure that's what you meant.  no problem.
[14:50] <Alexfrench> sorry i wanna say available
[14:51] <Alexfrench> yes i know for abiword thanks
[14:51] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, happy2help
[14:52] <Alexfrench> cool
[14:54] <GridCube> !info libreoffice
[14:54] <GridCube> Alexfrench: ^
[14:55] <Alexfrench> yes i read it is pre installed
[14:55] <GridCube> oh, you asked openoffice P:
[14:55] <GridCube> no, its not
[14:55] <GridCube> !info openoffice
[14:56] <Alexfrench> but i have on my others pcs openoffice so i would like to try on linux
[14:56] <Alexfrench> by default no
[14:56] <GridCube> Alexfrench: libreoffice replaces openoffice in most if not all aspects
[14:56] <Alexfrench> but could i find it and install it ???
[14:56] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, have you tried libreoffice?  much better support ...
[14:56] <Alexfrench> really ???
[14:56] <Alexfrench> no i don't
[14:57] <GridCube> yes, just google openoffice and get the .deb online, libreoffice is the official replacement in all aspects
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, yes really.  terminal command: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[14:57] <Alexfrench> on my windows pcs i have open
[14:57] <GridCube> Alexfrench: you can have libreoffice there too
[14:57] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, libreoffice is also available for windows .. and OSX
[14:57] <Alexfrench> yes you're right
[14:57] <GridCube> openoffice and libreoffice are forks
[14:58] <GridCube> well, libre is a fork of open
[15:00] <cfhowlett> GridCube, and IIRC OO was a fork of Staroffice
[15:00]  * cfhowlett strokes his neckbeard sagely ...
[15:01] <GridCube> why, yes, i think you be right
[15:02] <Alexfrench> ok for libreoffice, what about kwin or compiz and cairo-dock ??
[15:02] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, should be fine
[15:02] <Alexfrench> sorryfor all my silly questions but you are more fast than google loll
[15:02] <cfhowlett> Alexfrench, no worries.  we'll bill you later.
[15:03] <Alexfrench> i am a bit lazy to read everything
[15:03] <Alexfrench> hannn !!
[15:03] <Alexfrench> my god !!
[15:05] <Alexfrench> ahh these guys always an money affair loll
[16:21] <will> hey everyone. I uninstalled a package with --purge autoremove, and it uninstalled dependencies that I can no longer resolve. how can I undo thisa?
[16:23] <xangua> maybe you should tell what exactly you did before "undo this"
[16:24] <cfhowlett> will, I take it you're in xubuntu?
[16:27] <tdannecy> How do I remove the icons next to buttons in XFCE?
[16:28] <cfhowlett> tdannecy, system > appearance > settings > Toolbar Style
[16:28] <tdannecy> cfhowlett: Bingo. Thanks.
[16:36] <will> cfhowlett: yes xubuntu 14.0
[16:36] <will> cfhowlett: 14.04
[16:36] <will> cfhowlett: sorry for the late reply, I'm running around right now
[16:37] <cfhowlett> will, lag time sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop should set you proper
[16:38] <m3n3chm0> i'm tryiyn to test frootvpn but no sucess yet, this is the error i'm getting all the time I try to lunch it
[16:38] <m3n3chm0> m3n3chm0@m3n3chm0-laptop:~$ sudo openvpn /etc/openvpn/frootvpn.ovpn
[16:38] <m3n3chm0> Fri Oct 24 18:37:43 2014 OpenVPN 2.3.2 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [SSL (OpenSSL)] [LZO] [EPOLL] [PKCS11] [eurephia] [MH] [IPv6] built on Jun 26 2014
[16:38] <m3n3chm0> Fri Oct 24 18:37:43 2014 ERROR: could not read Auth username from stdin
[16:38] <m3n3chm0> Fri Oct 24 18:37:43 2014 Exiting due to fatal error
[16:38] <m3n3chm0> m3n3chm0@m3n3chm0-laptop:~$
[16:41] <will> cfhowlett: Ok thanks im trying it
[16:42] <will> cfhowlett: no dice
[16:42] <will> cfhowlett: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:42] <will>  vlc : Depends: vlc-nox (= 2.1.4-0ubuntu14.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
[16:42] <will>        Depends: libxcb-composite0 but it is not installable
[16:42] <will>        Depends: libxcb-keysyms1 (>= 0.3.9) but it is not installable
[16:42] <will>        Depends: libxcb-randr0 (>= 1.1) but it is not installable
[16:42] <will>        Depends: libxcb-xv0 (>= 1.2) but it is not installable
[16:42] <will>        Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify (= 2.1.4-0ubuntu14.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
[16:42] <will>        Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse (= 2.1.4-0ubuntu14.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
[16:42] <will> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:43] <cfhowlett> will, ask in #ubuntu.  pretty sure this is fixable.
[16:43] <will> cfhowlett: ok thanks man
[17:39] <jarko> hi kui, all be well now !
[17:39] <jarko> *kua
[17:48] <xubuntu15w> hi
[17:49] <xubuntu15w> someone can help me?
[17:49] <holstein> xubuntu15w: just ask.. maybe a volunteer can assist .. welcome
[17:50] <baizon> !ask | xubuntu15w
[17:50] <xubuntu15w> sorry...i'm new on xubuntu and i try to install google drive, so i install grive but i didnt see google doc... how?
[17:51] <holstein> xubuntu15w: where did you get "google drive"? a ppa?
[17:52] <holstein> xubuntu15w: if you trust the ppa and sources at the PPA listed here, i would follow http://www.enqlu.com/2014/03/how-to-install-grive-google-drive-client-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts-or-linux-mint-17.html
[17:53] <xubuntu15w> what is a ppa? i didnt get google drive but grive, i find it on this website: http://www.lffl.org/2014/05/grive-tools-il-miglior-client-per.html sorry but its in italy language
[17:53] <holstein> !ppa | xubuntu15w
[17:55] <xubuntu15w> thanks, i'll try this link so :) but if anyone had some info i'm here
[17:55] <holstein> xubuntu15w: the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:thefanclub/grive-tools" which is the same at both of our links, adds the ppa to your sources.. if you have any issues with the software the PPA is providing you, please check with the maintainters of the ppa packages
[17:57] <xubuntu15w> ok, but maybe someone has resolved that issue ;)
[17:58] <xubuntu15w> on ppa there is 3 solution i'll try those
[17:58] <holstein> xubuntu15w: what issue? where you dont see google docs? is that a feature of the software?
[18:00] <xubuntu15w> yep, when i had windows in the folder of google drive i can find the google doc like "menu" and its extension but on xubuntu i see folder, docs but i dont see google docs
[18:01] <holstein> xubuntu15w: the windows version may be different.. be sure to ask the creators of the software you are having problems with if that is in fact a feature and if so what the issue is
[18:03] <xubuntu15w> now i read better that ppa specific and i find that the creators of it didnt implement that specific
[18:04] <xubuntu15w> i try the other 2 ppa
[18:06] <xubuntu15w> bye bye and thanks
[18:57] <xubuntu34w> hi
[18:57] <Reptilia> knome:I've opened the sources.list file, but don't know how to make sure that the multiverse repositories are enabled. Can you help me?
[18:58] <knome> Reptilia, you don't need to do that from the command line.
[18:58] <knome> Reptilia, go to the settings manager and select software and updates
[18:58] <knome> Reptilia, in the first tab, make sure the multiverse repository line is checked
[18:59] <knome> then close the window; it should now ask whether you want to update the package lists - you do
[18:59] <Reptilia> It was checked :/
[19:00] <knome> so what's the error message when you try to install?
[19:00] <Reptilia> knome:I am installing the Flash Plugin successfully, but Firefox is saying that it's not installed
[19:01] <knome> in what context?
[19:03] <Reptilia> knome:Okay, i've succeeded now
[19:04] <Reptilia> knome:I de-selected the option from the Software manager (about the Multiverse repos.), saved that again, tried to install again, installed, and it works properly now
[19:05] <Reptilia> knome:Thanks, gotta go now, cya
[19:11] <xubuntu07w> I sthe bug com32r error on boot with usb meens i can not install or run it from usb memory ?
[19:20] <holstein> xubuntu07w: what bug is that?
[19:22] <elfy> bug 1325801
[19:22] <holstein> elfy: thanks :)
[19:22] <elfy> :)
[19:22] <elfy> had known issue page open :D
[19:23] <elfy> xubuntu07w: if you get the bug then you'll get the bug each time you boot afaik
[19:23] <holstein> xubuntu07w: i would probably just try unetbootin, and if that works for me, i would just use it
[19:24] <elfy> unetbootin caused me issues when making a utopic usb in utopic
[19:24] <elfy> the ubuntu tool caused me the least issues
[19:25] <holstein> elfy: oh.. thats good to know.. i assumed that was "usb-creator"
[19:26] <elfy> unetbootin - boots to boot: <tab> then use unetbootindefault will get you the desktop to install and try
[19:26] <xubuntu07w> Usally i use universal usb installer. Anyway for now i use 14.04 LTS
[19:26] <elfy> holstein: most would assume that ;)
[19:29] <zyrecha> Hello :)
[19:30] <zyrecha> anyone here?
[19:30] <holstein> zyrecha: yes.. ask if you have a support question, and a volunteer will try and assist..
[19:31] <zyrecha> oh, ok :) yeah i actually have a question :P I've installed xUbuntu inside virtualbox, but it seems that i can't set the resolution higher than 1600x1200, why is that? i've allways used 1920x1080.
[19:32] <zyrecha> I've got no problems with Ubuntu btw
[19:32] <holstein> zyrecha: you can try adding the same packages you added in ubuntu.. virtualbox guest additions..
[19:33] <Alexfrench> had you installed additionnals pack for virtualbox ?
[19:33] <zyrecha> yeah i have done that, installed and rebooted.. hmm, is there a way to "force" the resolution in xubuntu
[19:33] <zyrecha> ?
[19:33] <Alexfrench> yes that's it
[19:33] <holstein> xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. could be you just dont have the proper driver for the graphices installed.. or, there is some change in the plumbing, and you are comparing ubuntu 14.04 and xubuntu 14.10..
[19:34] <zyrecha> yeah i am, done the same? (i really love ubuntu, and i want to use it, but i got it installed on a laptop, and i got alot of problems with ubuntu freezing on me (both on my laptop and my gaming computer) thats the ONLY reason i want to change :P
[19:35] <holstein> i might try the arandr graphics tool, and see if i can get the resolution i want.. but, in vbox, i just use the resiazable graphics with the guest addition
[19:35] <bekks> Install the guest additions and resize the window.
[19:36] <zyrecha> oh crap! :P i tried to just update the os, and after that all the resolutions is back :p
[19:37] <zyrecha> what would you say is the biggest difference between ubuntu and xubuntu? any pros/cons?
[19:37] <holstein> zyrecha: the desktop environment.. pros and cons will be personal
[19:38] <bekks> zyrecha: The different desktop environment.
[19:38] <zyrecha> so basicly the system behind the desktop environment is the same? (allmost)
[19:38] <bekks> zyrecha: Not even basically.
[19:39] <holstein> zyrecha: the factual difference that can effect users is that unity (that comes with ubuntu) requires 3d support.. "good" graphics driver support.. xfce (which come with xubuntu) may have better performance on some hardware with not well supported graphics
[19:39] <zyrecha> hah, ok, sry for being a noob xD
[19:39] <holstein> also, xfce is "ligher".. though, nothing will make your hardware better or faster.. just may make better use of resources..
[19:39] <zyrecha> in other words, maybe thats why i got problem on my laptop?
[19:40] <cwillu_at_work> also, xfce doesn't look like gnomeshell nor unity
[19:40] <holstein> zyrecha: i have no idea.. but, its plausible
[19:40] <holstein> xfce has a more "classic" work flow, and look and feel.. thats either a pro or a con, base on your wants/needs
[19:41] <zyrecha> the really odd thing is that in ubuntu the os doesn't "feel slow" its fast when i move windows around, i get good results in benchmark.. but if im opening firefox(or any other program) it takes forever before it loads?
[19:41] <zyrecha> load*
[19:41] <Lakers_business> So um yeah,i use 14.04 but i like testing many distros.I think slashdot said Jessie 8.0 is going to be great.Can i gets an answer on the Final Jessie release date.
[19:42] <holstein> zyrecha: i would take the machine, and test without a 3d driver. i would try from the live CD of different versions and note kernel versions and software versions.. i would remove flash content from the euqation entirely.. i would launch apps from the terminal and see if there is helpful output
[19:42] <elfy> Lakers_business: this isn't a debian channel
[19:42] <holstein> Lakers_business: try a debian support channel
[19:43] <Lakers_business> elfy:sorry alright, but on a note i use ubuntu.
[19:43] <rww> Though to save #debian the headache: there isn't a release date set for Jessie yet. It'll be released when it's ready.
[19:43] <zyrecha> yeah i know, sry. (to be honest) i liked that you explained the answers. (so i actually understood what you ment xD)
[19:44] <zyrecha> ill log of now, thanks for all the help guys!
[19:45] <Lakers_business> holstein:okay yup sorry.
[19:46] <souliaq> Xubuntu 14.04 (32) changes the volume automatically, how can I disable this?
[19:46] <knome> souliaq, automatically in what context?
[19:47] <souliaq> any, I'm seeing a movie in VLC, and suddenly lowers the volume. I'm seeing youtube videos and the same thing happends.
[19:47] <souliaq> When that happends, the "volume indicator" bar shows up for a moment
[19:48] <holstein> souliaq: sounds like a stuck keyboard key.. i would clean the unit and test with live CDs to remove my setup from the euqation
[19:49] <holstein> you can try remapping, or disabling the keyboard shortcuts for that as well..
[19:49] <souliaq> I have a multiboot with Ubuntu 14.04 (64), that don't happends there, Also I tested the multimedia keys, and works ok.
[19:49] <souliaq> Ok
[19:50] <holstein> souliaq: there is nothing implemented that is designed to randomly change your volume levels..
[19:50] <souliaq> understood, I thought the system can be lower the volume when no sound were detected or something.
[19:51] <knome> changing the output device, like plugging in headphones, should change the volume level to last known level for that device
[19:51] <knome> but it does sound weird that it happens randomly without any warning
[19:52] <souliaq> Yes, and I didn't suspect of the keyboard, because the volume keys go "step by step", in this case the volume goes directly to a specific level.
[19:59] <souliaq> And there is another thing, when you change the volume with the keys, there no "sound" in the woofers.
[19:59] <souliaq> But in this case, some kind of "beat" sound in the woofers, like when the OS is starting.
[20:00] <souliaq> Could it be some service crashing and restarting?
[20:00] <holstein> souliaq: i dont think so.. has ubuntu ever worked normally?
[20:00] <holstein> souliaq: are you comparing ubuntu 14.04 and xubuntu 14.10?
[20:01] <souliaq> No, the problem is in Xubuntu 14.04 (32) but is not present in Ubuntu 14.04 (64), in the same machine.
[20:01] <holstein> souliaq: ok.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu..
[20:02] <souliaq> yes, but maybe they select different packages in each flavor, and that can be the problem.
[20:02] <holstein> souliaq: sure.. but, the same kernel. alsa.. pulseaudio.. etc..
[20:14] <souliaq> well, there is no Xfce4-volumed in Ubuntu, and killing that process solved the problem. Thanks.
[20:15] <xubuntu65w> hello
[20:16] <xubuntu65w> howto upgrade xubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 ?
[20:18] <baizon> xubuntu07w: http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/migrating-upgrading.html#upgrading
[20:18] <genii> If applicable, remove all your PPAs and do a ppa-purge. then dist-upgrade. Then do-release-upgrade
[20:18] <baizon> to slow :(
[20:18] <boss> hello
[20:18] <genii> baizon: Kids, no patience these days.... ;)
[20:18] <baizon> not at all :(
[20:18] <Guest15088> ok
[20:19] <Guest15088> howto upgrade xubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 ?
[20:19] <elfy> xubuntu07w: http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/migrating-upgrading.html#upgrading
[20:19] <baizon> http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/migrating-upgrading.html#upgrading
[20:19] <elfy> :p
[20:19] <Guest15088> many thanks will try
[20:19] <rww> !upgradeofflts
[20:20] <rww> (in case you prefer the command-line)
[20:20] <Guest15088> cool thank you
[20:20] <genii> rww: Ah, right forgot about default lts upgrade settings
[20:21] <elfy> rww: what's sudoedit? never seen that before
[20:21] <xubuntu07w_> i given it a try updated everything and a few other things it working great on my old HP 6730b
[20:21] <rww> genii: yeah, so did i the other day. so i added a factoid
[20:21] <knome> elfy, ^ lts->normal is maybe something we want to cover in the docs
[20:21] <rww> elfy: it runs the default editor under sudo. usually nano on Ubuntu, aiui
[20:21] <elfy> rww: thanks :)
[20:21] <rww> i believe it's an upstream sudo thing, I've seen it on other distros
[20:22] <elfy> knome: yea - docs or notes?
[20:22] <rww> (it also uses the visudo-style move-to-temp-file-and-then-copy-over-on-quit behavior)
[20:23] <elfy> right - useful to know - remembering is a different issue :)
[20:23] <Guest15088> what I need to do after change promt=normal ?
[20:23] <rww> sudo do-release-upgrade, as normal
[20:23] <rww> (or your preferred GUI equivalent)
[20:24] <knome> elfy, docs
[20:25] <Guest15088> rww - great  - MANY THANKS !!!
[20:25] <Guest15088> it's works !!
[20:25] <rww> :)
[20:27] <alket> hi, is it possible for each directory to store "order by" etc. not for all
[20:35] <drc> alket: You mean in thunar?  If so, I don't think so (at least I've never been able to do it).  If you mean with "ls" the I'd "man ls" and look at the flags listed.
[20:36] <alket> Thunar
[20:36] <alket> thanks for response
[20:52] <xubuntu17w> Is it possible to change the computername in the meny ?
[20:57] <knome> xubuntu17w, do you mean the username?