[01:34] <windyyyyyyyy> How do I use a live Lubuntu cd to retrieve a document on a dead windows hard drive
[01:36] <lublubulubu> my windows computer HDD dies=d, i need to retrieve a paper i wrote, its in my documents on s drive, i have booted the lubuntu cd and is running live now, how do i get into windows c drive and get that document
[01:36] <lublubulubu> died*
[01:38] <ianorlin> next to the menu at the botom right there is something is an icon like a folder in the quick launch area
[01:38] <ianorlin> then in places there will be the parition for the hard drive
[01:38] <lublubulubu> ok ill look
[01:38] <lublubulubu> one sec
[01:39] <windyyyyyyyy> There's nothing called places
[01:39] <lublubulubu> no places/??
[01:40] <lublubulubu> we are same guy hes helping me
[01:40] <lublubulubu> i se ethe folder by startim in it
[01:40] <lublubulubu> do i mount that laarge HDD i see?
[01:41] <windyyyyyyyy> do i mount the large volume hard drive?
[01:44] <ianorlin> yes
[01:44] <lublubulubu> hmmm
[01:44] <lublubulubu> ill look
[01:45] <ianorlin> but if the hard drive is bad it could just be broken
[01:45] <lublubulubu> i dont dee any 640 gb hdd yet
[01:45] <lublubulubu> HDD is bad
[01:45] <lublubulubu> i tested it
[03:02] <Ahmuck> what does this command do?  [ -x /usr/bin/numlockx ] && numlockx on
[03:02] <Ahmuck> acutally, what are the brackets for?
[03:05] <holstein> Ahmuck: is this from a web source? a page?
[03:05] <holstein> you are trying to enable numberlock at boot?
[03:11] <Ahmuck> does lubuntu honor /etc/local.rc ?
[03:11] <Ahmuck> upon startup?
[03:12] <holstein> Ahmuck: honor?
[03:12] <holstein> what are you adding there? and how? and what is happening?
[03:13] <Ahmuck> numlockx on
[03:13] <Ahmuck> it's not starting
[03:13] <Ahmuck> xinput set-prop 13 "Device Enabled" 0
[03:13] <Ahmuck> it's not disabling the touchpad
[03:14] <holstein> Ahmuck: so, you are trying to autostart numlockx at boot? to be on for the greeter? lightdm? and also, you are trying to disable the touchpad at some point as well?
[03:16] <Ahmuck> i've seen lightdm but the documentation i found indicated i could do it via /etc/rc.local.
[03:16] <Ahmuck> yes, start numlock and disable touchpad upon startup
[03:16] <Ahmuck> is there a startup map (graphical - ie, dia) of how lubuntu starts up, the processes and the commands it is executing?
[03:17] <Ahmuck> on the web?
[03:18] <holstein> Ahmuck: its the same as most linux
[03:18] <holstein> Ahmuck: but, i dont think thats the issue.. you can choose another more simple script to autostart and see that its working.. i think you'll find the jargon is probably responsible for your issue
[03:19] <holstein> i'll test the commands when possible right in the terminal and see that they work..
[03:19] <Ahmuck> as most ?  how is it different?  where would I find the differences documented?
[03:19] <Ahmuck> the jargon?
[03:19] <Ahmuck> it's from ubuntu's websites
[03:19] <Ahmuck> want the links?
[03:19] <holstein> Ahmuck: if you think it would help a volunteer better assist you, sure
[03:21] <Ahmuck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[03:21] <Ahmuck> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[03:21] <Ahmuck> http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3348-ubuntu-executing-a-script-at-startup-and-shutdown
[03:22] <holstein> Ahmuck: here is what you are looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[03:23] <Ahmuck> btw, the new battery icon notification in systray is awesomeness
[03:24] <Ahmuck> in 14.10
[03:25] <Ahmuck> so /etc/rc.local is ignored?
[03:27] <Ahmuck> battery systray info is so awesome i wish i had something like that for every hardware device
[03:27]  * Ahmuck found upstart documenation
[03:27] <Ahmuck> thx holstein
[03:28] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock is laying out what to add to lightdm..
[03:28] <holstein> sudo sed -i 's|^exit 0.*$|# Numlock enable\n[ -x /usr/bin/numlockx ] \&\& numlockx on\n\nexit 0|' /etc/rc.local
[03:28] <Ahmuck> yes, tried that as well in rc.local
[03:28] <Ahmuck> why so many config docs for the same thing?
[03:28] <holstein> then, add "greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx on" to /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf
[03:29] <holstein> Ahmuck: cruft? laziness.. lack of supporters and contributors.. differing opinions.. lack of cleanup of old documentation.. maybe other things as well
[03:29] <Ahmuck> IF "numlockx on" works in bootup it's the simpler method
[03:30] <holstein> Ahmuck: did you try what i laid out above?
[03:30] <Ahmuck> is programming that hard?
[03:30] <holstein> Ahmuck: i dont do programming.. its not trivial..
[03:30] <Ahmuck> the UbuntuBootupHowto or the docs on LightDM and NumLock?
[03:31] <Ahmuck> the numlock seems like a simple solution ... install numlockx by defualt and provide a simple gui to turn it on via keyboard/mouse that is in the menu
[03:31] <Ahmuck> maybee i'll take a look at it :)
[03:31] <holstein> Ahmuck: might be that in main ubuntu.. not sure
[03:31] <Ahmuck> main ubuntu does have something like that
[03:32] <holstein> the wiki's are publically editable. but, have you tried what i laid out above?
[03:32] <holstein> Ahmuck: lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. and using lightdm as well
[03:32] <Ahmuck> no, i've not.  i will.  it will probally work.  i'd rather do it old school via BootUp
[03:32] <Ahmuck> and init scripts
[03:32]  * Ahmuck looks up docs on LightDM
[03:32] <holstein> Ahmuck: i see not ubuntu guide for that
[03:32] <holstein> en.kioskea is not an ubuntu source
[03:33] <holstein> /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf  states In Ubuntu 14.04 the above methods of running numlockx don't work. It can be run by changing configuration of LightDM display manager. Edit /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf file and add the following line at the end
[03:33] <holstein> i would expect that to be the same in 14.10..
[03:33] <Ahmuck> ok, lightdm is the default greeter, however i'm looking at enabling and disabling these items before the gui
[03:34] <holstein> Ahmuck: at the greeter.. numberlock.. correct?
[03:34] <Ahmuck> but yes, i will try your command though I may drop back to the boot up option
[03:35] <Ahmuck> i actually want the numlock upon bootup.  before the greeter
[03:35] <holstein> Ahmuck: its not "my" command.. though... its just what i read from the link you gave that best first your scenario
[03:35] <Ahmuck> yes, i know
[03:35] <Ahmuck> were good
[03:36] <Ahmuck> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461651/sequence-of-files-used-when-booting-the-lubuntu-14-04
[03:36] <Ahmuck> seems i'm not the only one wanting to know more about boot up proceedure
[03:37] <holstein> Ahmuck: you can link them the documentation..
[03:37] <Ahmuck> kewl
[03:38] <holstein> "Do not expect to be able to learn it all overnight - it takes years to become an expert. I would suggest you start by reading the scripts in /etc/init.d/ and playing around with starting and stopping them" is also great advice from the page you linked
[03:41] <Ahmuck> holstein: yes, however the touchpad, numlock, etc. the past has never been a problem until recently
[03:41] <holstein> Ahmuck: sure.. the guide i read states that things are different in 14.04 specifically
[03:41] <holstein> things are changing.. qt, gtk, init.. things change
[03:42] <holstein> 12.04 is still supported though.. if you wanted to install it and just lxde, and not lubuntu-desktop.. you can have repo support for kernels and patches for a few more years with that..
[03:43] <Ahmuck> "In Ubuntu 14.04 the above methods of running numlockx don't work." - do you know why?
[03:44] <holstein> Ahmuck: becuase things have changed.. i know not the details of those changes..
[03:44] <holstein> Ahmuck: i would imagine init..
[03:47] <Ahmuck> so i tried your recomendations, which were a copy of what was in the documenation (before arriving here, as i just checked those files and they have those commands in them) and it's still broke.  this makes me wonder where it's getting it's startup info from ... however i will double check everything here in the next 10, reboot and come back
[03:48] <holstein> well, nothing is "broke"
[03:48] <holstein> i would recheck the jargon and files..
[05:54] <Sachiru> Upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, now my password isn't accepted. What gives?
[09:15] <Unban_Me> hi
[09:15] <Unban_Me> Oh i am unbanned here
[12:08] <halexander9000> Hey guys, could someone please help me figure out why Alsa is not outputting any sound, and if I need to install Pulseaudio instead?
[22:19] <Richhh> how to get window position snapping in 14.04?
[22:20] <Richhh> someone said it is possible with compiz etc
[22:20] <Richhh> without*
[22:21] <Ahmuck> Richhh: areo snap
[22:25] <Richhh> ok thanks
[22:44] <Sk2d> hey I've installe lubuntu 14.10 encrypted with lvm on my toshibar 550d laptop. Everything worked but I now restarted my pc and I am unabeld to use the keyboard on the first try to enter my passphrase for decryption ctrl+alt+del reboots my system now there is ugly interface to enter my password this works but than my touchpad does not work.
[22:47] <phillw> Sk2d: did you read the release notes?
[22:50] <Sk2d> phillw: I used swap-off to install
[22:51] <phillw> Sk2d: did you read the release notes? beacuse your answer is there. That is why they are made.
[22:52] <Sk2d> hm ok I will check i just overfly them
[22:52] <phillw> Do not, they are written for a good reason. :)
[22:55] <Sk2d> cant find anython on lubuntu release notes will noch chek ubuntu release notes
[22:57] <phillw> Sk2d: try the release notes mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[22:58] <Sk2d> I looked on lubuntu.com
[22:58] <Sk2d> *.net
[22:59] <phillw> Sk2d: the wiki area is what matters, follow that link I have given you. ^^
[22:59] <Sk2d> founds https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1383851
[23:01] <phillw> Sk2d: and you have also founf the work around... would have been much less painfull for you if you read the release notes. We document all the known bugs.
[23:01] <Sk2d> but I still cant find this link on your links
[23:02] <phillw> Sk2d: it is a generic ubuntu bug
[23:02] <Sk2d> found it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes#Kernel on my frist try I did not see that this was under known issues ...
[23:03] <phillw> our notes point back to them
[23:05] <Sk2d> fix release means apt-get upgrade will install this? or do I have to wait for some confirmation?
[23:06] <Sk2d> and will this fix the problem that my touchpad now does not work?
[23:09] <phillw> Sk2d: only you can confirm that
[23:10] <phillw> as my touchpad works fine I cannot test
[23:16] <ianorlin> Richhh: press windows key plus left and right
[23:17] <Sk2d> arg I did uppdate and upgrade befor shutting down today
[23:17] <Sk2d> so why do I still have the bug now?
[23:21] <phillw> Sk2d: if you have a bug marked fix released, then
[23:21] <phillw> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:21] <phillw> (with  the accept) followed by a reboot should solve that bug. If it does not, state that the bug is not fixed.
[23:24] <Sk2d> hm I am really sure I did this but I am currently unabeld to get a connection without using my mouse to stupid to connect to wlan via terminal so I will test it agaon tomorrow when I will have a usb-mouse (which seems to work on live lubuntu where I had the the same problem with my touchpad)
[23:24] <Sk2d> but thanks
[23:35] <phillw> Sk2d: bugs are crazy at times :)
[23:38] <Sk2d> next time I need to figure out when the perfect time for upgrade is, maybe wait for the first big bugfix time.
[23:42] <phillw> Sk2d:  I start with the 1st alpha 1... stable, but bugs to be found. :)
[23:45] <Richhh> ianorlin: oh wow
[23:45] <Richhh> ianorlin: thanks
[23:48] <Richhh> :)