[02:04] <imgbot> [03:04] <imgbot> [05:34] <imgbot> [05:34] <imgbot> [05:34] <imgbot> [05:34] <imgbot> [11:54] <imgbot> [13:19] <slangasek> ogra_, sil2100: around?  bug #1385656 - I think we want a revert, but that needs figuring out what went in the image and since the commit logs aren't generated as part of the image build...
[13:20] <ogra_> slangasek, there isnt really anything in there that could affect packagekit http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/126.changes
[13:21] <ogra_> slangasek, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/125.changes has apt changes, i wonder if that is somehow related
[13:22] <slangasek> john-mcaleely: was bug #1385656 definitely not reproducible on 125?
[13:24] <rsalveti> ogra_: quite a few packages got removed though, not sure if that could be causing any bad side effect
[13:24] <rsalveti> bug guess that's easy to know, just install them by hand
[13:25] <ogra_> rsalveti, thats all only hud, i doubt it can affect packagekit
[13:25] <rsalveti> hm, libdbusmenu-qt5 got removed
[13:25] <rsalveti> not sure if that would cause anything though
[13:25] <ogra_> but with the builder situation atm re-rolling an image will also be hard without some admin driving them ...
[13:25] <rsalveti> ogra_: what is the issue?
[13:26] <slangasek> what's the builder situation?
[13:26] <ogra_> they put image builds on awfully low score and are busy
[13:26] <ogra_> (see #ubuntu-release, i pinged about that a while ago)
[13:26] <slangasek> ok
[13:28] <ogra_> (Lese Datenbank ... 38661 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
[13:28] <ogra_> Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../libdbusmenu-qt5_0.9.3+14.10.20140619-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb ...
[13:28] <ogra_> Entpacken von libdbusmenu-qt5:armhf (0.9.3+14.10.20140619-0ubuntu1) ...
[13:28] <ogra_> Error: Timeout was reached
[13:28] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$
[13:28] <ogra_> (sorry for the german)
[13:28] <ogra_> smells like we have some bigger problem here
[13:28] <ogra_> (not sure where thaat message comes from though)
[13:30] <ogra_> seems it installed the package fine though
[13:32] <ogra_> so i see that packagekit message in syslog when unity8 tries to refresh the view after installing ...
[13:32] <ogra_> then it goes to 100% CPU
[13:35] <ogra_> hmm
[13:36] <ogra_> in fact it is constantly at 100% cpu even after reboot
[13:36] <ogra_> crap
[13:38]  * ogra_ installs unity-voice-service ... (and starts packing) 
[13:40] <ogra_> bah
[13:41] <ogra_> now apport hardlocked my phone ... doesnt take input anymore
[13:41] <ogra_> with a load of 13 in top
[13:42] <rsalveti> Oct 25 09:41:27 ubuntu-phablet PackageKit: daemon start
[13:42] <rsalveti> Oct 25 09:41:27 ubuntu-phablet PackageKit: daemon quit
[13:42] <rsalveti> Oct 25 09:41:52 ubuntu-phablet dbus[750]: [system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit': timed out
[13:42] <rsalveti> yeah
[13:42] <rsalveti> that's what I'm getting
[13:42] <ogra_> right, like i logged in the bug
[13:43] <ogra_> i have all dropped packages re-installed apart from the hub
[13:43] <ogra_> i see a fresh ubuntu-app-launch file in /var/crash
[13:44] <ogra_> hmm, now it behaves better after a reboot
[13:46] <slangasek> reproducible on previous build? reproducible on mako?
[13:47]  * ogra_ installs hud too ... then i will have all dropped packages back
[13:47] <rsalveti> weird, even after reinstalling hud and every dropped package, it is still failing for me
[13:47] <ogra_> yeah
[13:47] <rsalveti> was 125 fine?
[13:47] <ogra_> i doubt it is actually the dropping of packages
[13:47] <ogra_> no idea and i dont have the time to test that
[13:48] <ogra_> rsalveti, 125 has the libc change though
[13:48] <rsalveti> will take ages for me to download it
[13:48] <ogra_> well, same network here :)
[13:49] <rsalveti> yeah, quite a few changes on 125 as well, apt, bash, gstreamer, libc
[13:49] <ogra_> right
[13:49] <slangasek> the libc change was a targeted change to raise the limit on TLS usage; there's no reason to think that's the cause
[13:49] <slangasek> that is, there's no reason to single it out as a possible cause
[13:50] <ogra_> http://fanf42.blogspot.com/2014/08/upgrading-to-ubuntu-1404-error-timeout.html
[13:50] <ogra_> there
[13:51] <ogra_> i get the timeout error here all the time ... seems that refers to the apt change
[13:51] <rsalveti> I did get ' Error: Timeout was reached' as well
[13:51] <ogra_> right
[13:51] <ogra_> i dont get apt segfaults like he describes though
[13:52] <ogra_> (and indeed it is a totally different problem, but a good pointer i think)
[13:52] <ogra_> rsalveti, try downgarding apt
[13:52] <rsalveti> what were the apt changes that we got on 125?
[13:52] <ogra_> security fixes
[13:53] <ogra_> security team synced bash and apt from utopic
[13:53] <slangasek> apt shouldn't be involved in the installation of a click package, however
[13:53] <rsalveti> right
[13:53] <ogra_> indeed
[13:53] <rsalveti> this timeout we got was when installing deb packages with apt
[13:54] <ogra_> well
[13:54] <ogra_> does  packagekit use libapt anywhere ?
[13:55] <ogra_> i assume it is perhaps linked against it
[14:03] <rsalveti> ogra_: slangasek: downgrading apt fixes it
[14:03] <rsalveti> Oct 25 10:02:43 ubuntu-phablet dbus[751]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.PackageKit' (using servicehelper)
[14:03] <rsalveti> Oct 25 10:02:43 ubuntu-phablet PackageKit: daemon start
[14:03] <rsalveti> Oct 25 10:02:43 ubuntu-phablet dbus[751]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit'
[14:04] <ogra_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/rtm-14.09-changes/2014-October/000763.html
[14:05] <rsalveti> wow, diff is huge, major version bump
[14:05] <ogra_> does not really sound like related in any way ... i suspect we were multiple versions behind
[14:05] <rsalveti> yes
[14:05] <rsalveti> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/187988966/apt_1.0.4ubuntu6_1.0.9.2ubuntu2.diff.gz
[14:05] <ogra_> and PPAs dont take -v into account for dpkg-genchanges
[14:06] <ogra_> (which annoys me since we use them)
[14:07] <rsalveti> flashing 126 again and will only downgrade apt to see if that is indeed what caused the issue
[14:07] <rsalveti> then we should probably revert if for now, and retry the landing with the extra needed fix next week
[14:07] <ogra_> ++
[14:08] <ogra_> i need to check out soon though, someone else will have to drive the builds
[14:08] <rsalveti> will try to get the revert on a ppa
[14:09]  * ogra_ goes downstairs for a smoke before finishing the packing here 
[14:24] <imgbot> [14:24] <imgbot> [14:25] <popey> \o/
[14:44] <popey> clean installed 127 and it's device offline ...
[14:46] <ogra_> you mean in adb ?
[14:47] <popey> yes
[14:47] <popey> sat at the logo now
[14:47] <popey> JW011705	offline
[14:47] <popey> i had OTA updated to the broken image earlier, then used udf to flash it when i just saw the bot announce 127 was done
[14:48] <popey> hah, now it's booted
[14:50] <ogra_> sounds like apparmor re-generating
[14:51] <popey> yeah, i guess so
[14:51] <popey> 127 is still busted
[14:51] <popey> can't run pkcon
[14:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: popey: mind testing https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-012 ?
[14:52] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ pkcon
[14:52] <popey> Failed to contact PackageKit: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PackageKit: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of org.freedesktop.PackageKit timed out
[14:52] <popey> ok
[14:52] <rsalveti> for https://launchpad.net/bugs/1385656
[14:52] <popey> is there some magic for testing? I mean, some special way to add the ppa (I haven't used ppas for a while on rtm)
[14:52] <rsalveti> same as before, with apt-add-repository
[14:53] <popey> or is add-apt-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-012  sufficient?
[14:53] <rsalveti> just add a team/distro/ppa
[14:53] <ogra_> popey, citrain
[14:53] <rsalveti> in this case it would be ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu-rtm/landing-012
[14:53] <popey> ok
[14:53] <rsalveti> ogra_: what is new in 127?
[14:53] <rsalveti> device tarball updates?
[14:54] <ogra_> rsalveti, nothing apparently, i thought the network-manager change was not landed
[14:54] <rsalveti> oh, alright
[14:54] <ogra_> which is why i triggered this build
[14:59] <ogra_> rebooting ...
[15:01] <ogra_> installing lastpass
[15:01] <ogra_> done
[15:01] <ogra_> rsalveti, works fine for me
[15:01]  * ogra_ removes lastpass again 
[15:01]  * popey reboots
[15:02] <ogra_> rsalveti, seems to be fine
[15:03] <ogra_> unrelatedly i thik unity8 is eating wayy to much resources though ... but thats for next week
[15:03] <popey> pkcon is still broken
[15:04] <ogra_> i didnt check from cmdline ... the store worked for me
[15:06] <popey> hmm, should I have upgraded more than just apt from that ppa?
[15:06] <ogra_> yes
[15:06] <popey> ok
[15:06] <rsalveti> ogra_: what should we do, publish and image rebuild?
[15:06] <ogra_> rsalveti, yeah
[15:07] <ogra_> popey, all packages you have iinstalled indeed ...
[15:07] <popey> ok, yes, that fixed it, and pkcon
[15:07] <rsalveti> pkcon working fine here
[15:07] <popey> rsalveti: ^
[15:07] <rsalveti> great, will publish
[15:07] <ogra_> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls apt/
[15:07] <ogra_> apt_1.0.9.2ubuntu2.is.1.0.4ubuntu7_armhf.deb                  libapt-inst1.5_1.0.9.2ubuntu2.is.1.0.4ubuntu7_armhf.deb
[15:07] <ogra_> apt-transport-https_1.0.9.2ubuntu2.is.1.0.4ubuntu7_armhf.deb  libapt-pkg4.12_1.0.9.2ubuntu2.is.1.0.4ubuntu7_armhf.deb
[15:07] <ogra_> apt-utils_1.0.9.2ubuntu2.is.1.0.4ubuntu7_armhf.deb
[15:08] <ogra_> (i usually wget them and "dpkg -i *" for silo testing ... thats slightly cleaner
[15:08] <ogra_> )
[15:08] <ogra_> rsalveti, write a mail about that ... since we worked past QA here
[15:08] <rsalveti> ogra_: sure
[15:08] <ogra_> so people are aware what we did
[15:08] <popey> nice one, thanks chaps!
[15:09] <ogra_> popey, well ... we dont have an image yet ...
[15:09]  * popey restarts doing the original thing he was doing, installing a click to test it
[15:09] <popey> well, I'm alright ㋛
[15:09] <ogra_> heh
[15:15] <rsalveti> ogra_: are you going to be able to trigger a new image once it migrates to rtm release?
[15:15] <rsalveti> need to pack my stuff here
[15:17] <ogra_> if it does that before 12
[15:18]  * popey flew back on an A380 which was very nice and new
[15:18] <popey> sat in the highest seat number I have ever sat in... 83A
[15:21] <ogra_> wow
[15:23]  * ogra_ twiddles thimbs til rmadison agrees with the bot 
[15:23] <ogra_> *thumbs too
[15:28] <ogra_> sigh ... slow publisher ..
[15:30] <rsalveti> ogra_: should be in release in a few more
[15:31] <rsalveti> lp thinks it's already in release
[15:34] <ogra_> well, i have to leave the room before 12 ...
[15:35] <ogra_> (and rmadison still disagrees)
[15:35] <ogra_> also with the builders being busy i'm not sure we will get an image soon unless we have someone bumping its build score
[15:50] <rsalveti> still not in rmadison...
[15:51] <ogra_> i'm moving to the lobby ... hoping the wlan code will stay valind long enough
[15:52] <popey> ogra_: the bar has free wifi with no code needed
[16:01] <ogra_> ok, build triggered
[16:04] <imgbot> [16:05] <cjwatson> ogra_: the correct fix FWIW was a new packagekit
[16:05] <cjwatson> ogra_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagekit/0.8.17-4ubuntu3
[16:05] <cjwatson> yet another thing we're wasting time on by having an out-of-date ubuntu-rtm/14.09 missing many bug fixes
[16:06] <cjwatson> (sorry I wasn't around earlier to let you know, since that would have been a much quicker fix)
[16:09] <john-mcaleely> slangasek, unknown when bug #1385656 appeared from my point of view - victor reported it over telegram this morning
[16:11] <john-mcaleely> rsalveti, ogra_ so following on from email, is 128 going to have the wifi power fix as well as the back out to adress bug #1385656
[16:11] <cjwatson> it's a thing I fixed last month in Ubuntu, but because Ubuntu RTM didn't have the new apt, the effort involved in persuading people that it should preemptively have the fixed packagekit was too much
[16:11] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, yes
[16:11] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, excellent
[16:11] <ogra_> cjwatson, right, we can do that next week
[16:11] <cjwatson> I would strongly recommend taking the new packagekit and un-reverting apt once you have a moment, to restore the security fix
[16:11] <ogra_> we just didnt want to leave the images broken til then
[16:11] <cjwatson> it shouldn't be necessary to reupload - we can just copy the security-fixed apt back in
[16:11] <cjwatson> (with some archive admin help)
[16:12] <john-mcaleely> sounds good
[16:14] <ogra_> cjwatson, well we kind of broke all processes with that revert ... if you feel like doing that while we're all in the air, please do
[16:14]  * ogra_ will be offline very soon 
[16:14] <ogra_> (and ricardo already left)
[16:16] <cjwatson> Hm, I could fiddle with the ubuntu-rtm archive then get on a plane, that sounds good
[16:17] <cjwatson> I might do a bit later :)
[16:17] <ogra_> heh
[16:17]  * ogra_ crosses fingers 
[16:17] <cjwatson> Though I can't really test anything
[16:18] <ogra_> i guess popey could help you out
[16:20] <cjwatson> And yeah, it's kind of entertaining that apt is tangentially involved in installing click packages; the work to give click its own dbus service will fix that
[16:20] <ogra_> well, packagekit is still linked against apt on the lib level, no ?
[16:21] <cjwatson> The aptcc backend is, yes
[16:21] <ogra_> eve with a click dbus service
[16:21] <ogra_> *even
[16:21] <cjwatson> But we wouldn't be using packagekit any more
[16:21] <ogra_> ah
[16:22] <cjwatson> It was always just an expedient thing to use to shorten the path to first implementation
[16:22] <cjwatson> And now that packagekit upstream is dropping plugin support in 1.0, we have to find an alternative anyway
[16:22] <ogra_> ah, i didnt know they would do that
[16:23] <ogra_> ok ... off to the airport
[16:23]  * ogra_ waves
[16:24] <cjwatson> have a safe trip
[16:24] <ogra_> you too
[16:33] <popey> cjwatson: happy to help... wassup?
[16:41] <cjwatson> popey: later maybe
[16:41] <cjwatson> no rush right now
[16:42] <popey> cjwatson: ok
[17:19] <imgbot> [17:19] <imgbot> [17:25] <ahayzen> clicks are installing again thanks folks :)