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zacarias1OerHeks: Thank. No other i386 version more recent than the 12.16?00:00
OerHekszacarias1, nope, opera has been a dead project, this is a dev preview, no updates afaik00:01
zacarias1OerHeks: Thank you.00:03
OerHekszacarias1 have fun00:03
after_rHi guys... I remember asking in #freebsd if freebsd send back any data back to the dev team or whatev, and someone said that Ubuntu does something like this... is this true?00:06
after_rbut what parts of ubuntu do? so i can disable it00:07
devhostI'm playing borderlands presequel after a week of not00:07
devhostcrazy weird00:07
after_rI dont want osend anonymous data back00:07
bekksafter_r: thats nonsense, actually. Ubuntu does not send your data anywhere.00:07
Jordan_Uafter_r: Firefox by default sends usage data to Mozilla, though it tells you about that (and lets you disable it) the first time you run Firefox.00:07
tewardafter_r: the only info sent back to devs are if you tell apport, the error processor, to file an error report or a bug report for when things go weird and break, but it always prompts you00:08
after_ri know about firefox00:08
garrettrCan apt handle repos that have multiple signatures?00:08
mpthrappHey, quick question. I installed two versions of nginx by mistake. I tried to remove one version, but I think it's still registered in the path. I checked in bash.bashrc and .profile, but it's still looking at the removed version of nginx. How do I fix it?00:08
after_rOk.00:08
tewardmpthrapp: how did you install the two?00:08
after_rI was just checkintg for unprompted sending of my stuff00:08
bekksafter_r: You can disable that in firefox.00:08
mpthrapprm -r00:09
Jordan_Uafter_r: There's also the amazon ad lense, which in an attempt to show you related Amazon content sends your unity searches to a server.00:09
tewardafter_r: no info goes back to the devs unless you tell it to, the exception might be the web browsers you use, they may send data independently back, and you have to disable those.00:09
Jordan_U!adlense | after_r00:09
mpthrappFor the directory it was installed to.00:09
Jordan_U!adlens | after_r00:09
ubottuafter_r: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ00:09
tewardmpthrapp: you'd have to edit your PATH, to remove it, or remove the script(s) that're placing it in the PATH.  Having said this, you might want to purge both nginx installs, and then install from the repos00:10
Jordan_Uafter_r: And of course there are various other ways that Canonical could get information about your installation, like monitoring what packages are downloaded from repositories they host and linking that to your ip. That's going to be a risk with any OS/Software though, and you can change mirrors to one not directly hosted by Canonical if you really care.00:11
mpthrappHow do I edit my path? Or purge the installs? Whichever one is easier. I'm on do so I have to do it through terminal.00:11
Jordan_Umpthrapp: What command are you running specifically?00:12
tewardmpthrapp: better question, how did you install the two versions?00:12
tewardmpthrapp: one via apt-get, one from source, or...?00:13
mpthrappI did one through apt-get install nginx, and one through passenger/rvm00:13
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tds5016can someone help me figure out why this script won't install cassandra? (I'm trying to install using a script with vagrant)00:16
tds5016https://dpaste.de/pFv800:16
mpthrappI did the rm -r on the apt-get one.00:16
after_rI dont want osend anonymous data backNote, selecting 'unity-scope-home' instead of 'unity-lens-shopping'00:16
after_roops00:16
after_rI mean00:16
tds5016I think there might be something wrong with the repo, because it keeps telling me that it's getting a 404 on the download (which would make sense if there's something wrong with the repo)00:16
after_rbekks: How do I remove that package?00:17
tewardmpthrapp: that's a bad thing to do - start over.  `sudo apt-get install --reinstall nginx nginx-common`, unless you used a specific variant of the package, in which case, `sudo apt-get install --reinstall nginx-VARIANT nginx-common`00:17
tewardmpthrapp: then remove the version via apt-get itself00:17
after_rbekks: it says Note, selecting 'unity-scope-home' instead of 'unity-lens-shopping'00:17
Bashing-omtds5016: Possible, have you changed your mirror in Software Sources ?00:19
mpthrappAlright, thanks.00:20
tds5016I shouldn't have touched anything with that....00:20
tico怎么没有说话呢00:20
dom__Ok, I figured out that the problem comes from the efi sda2 partition (FAT-fs (sda2) fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)). After running a few times fsck -a /dev/sda2 and remounting the partition, I was able to install and pass the grub installer. But I have another issue : I can't boot the ubuntu (tried from the windows recovery boot menu) -> the partition got corrupted again. I will try again tomorrow. Have a good night pe00:20
dom__ople.00:20
tds5016I think that should be listed on the script the repo I'm tryingf to use.00:20
tds5016I shouldn'00:20
tds5016I didn't touch anything on the repo, and this is coming from a fresh install ;-)00:20
Bashing-omtds5016: Sorry, what I am suggesting is to do so, see then if the 404 condition persist .00:21
tds5016Bashing-om: how would  Ichange the mirror? sorry for the confusion.00:21
acrhi00:23
Bashing-omtds5016: There is a check box in Software Sources to begin the process ( painless ) .. I do not run it, so I am unable to give specific advise.00:23
tds5016This is a headless box; no gui.00:23
tds5016the script I show should show the repo I'm trying to use though.00:24
Richhha terminal emulator that can zoom and keep the same window size, ideally with ctrl+mwheel ?00:25
Bashing-omtds5016: A bit more difficult to do so, one would have to know the alternate URL and manually edit the sources.list file. Might consider ( if not mission critical ) to wait and see if the condition is fixed .00:25
OerHekstds5016, if you added the keys tru that script, download manually http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian/pool/main/c/cassandra/cassandra_2.1.1_all.deb http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian/pool/main/c/cassandra/cassandra-tools_2.1.1_all.deb00:25
acrwhen systemd will be removed from ubuntu?00:25
Jordan_Uacr: Not anywhere in the forseeable future as Ubuntu is switching to systemd by default. For further discussion of hypothetical future changes, please join #ubuntu-offtopic.00:26
Richhhok I see Terminator can do the zooming with a modified setting, i'll see if I can map to ctrl+mwheel , and zoom in doesn't seem to work atm, only zoom out and zoom normal (ctrl - and ctrl 0)00:27
tds5016OerHeks: huh?00:27
tds5016I'm trying to get 1.2 branch00:27
acr:/00:27
OerHekstds5016, also there http://www.apache.org/dist/cassandra/debian/pool/main/c/cassandra/00:28
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tds5016OerHeks: am I using the wrong source in that script?00:29
tds5016that it's not pointing there?00:29
tds5016also, it looks like this repo is trying to get version 1.2.18 instead of 1.2.1900:30
tds5016could it be that source is out of date?00:30
OerHekstds5016, yes, i think so, but cannot say why00:30
tds5016do you know how I'd fix it?00:31
Richhhok, using terminator and changed the zoom keys, its good enough00:31
OerHekstds5016, looking on in that script, not sure that ulimit is working too.. so i guess that script is for debian00:32
tds5016it's for ubuntu; do you know what I'd need to do to make it work?00:33
NadyI am using an AMD processor laptop and I have downloaded drivers package from AMD website and it is with .run extention... how to install it ?00:35
daftykinsNady: that's not the supported way to install AMD graphics drivers00:36
daftykins!ati | Nady00:36
ubottuNady: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:36
Nadyok00:37
Nadywait let me see friend .. thanks00:37
tds5016do you know who I'd talk to to get a repo like the one listed to get updated with the newer version fo the file?00:38
daftykins'friend' isn't appropriate for someone you don't know00:38
PixelButterflyhello, can I get some help with my Ethernet connection? it says that it is connected to Ethernet after setting it up manually but it won't connect to any website, I can't ping any ip addresses, including the modem, because it says that the host is unreachable, etc00:38
tewardPixelButterfly: paste the output of `ifconfig -a` into pastebin - lets start by making sure your system is actually getting what it needs.  Also share what you configured your ethernet settings for, and confirm they match your router/modem/network settings elsewhere00:40
OerHekstds5016, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-server too00:40
user51564894Has anyone who just upgraded to utopic having trouble installing libglamor-dev ?00:40
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user51564894And by "trouble" I mean, "Did utopic remove libglamor and libglamor-dev from its repos?".00:43
OerHeksuser51564894, Status: Deleted https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/glamor-egl/0.6.0-0ubuntu400:43
user51564894OerHeks, thanks.00:43
OerHeksyes00:43
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!00:44
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!00:44
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!00:44
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!00:44
teward!ops00:44
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yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!00:44
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!!00:44
unopasteyashmak you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted00:44
OerHekshard to read, you are typing too fast.00:44
user51564894OerHeks, Is there a reason for the deletion?00:44
tewarduser51564894: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/1368330 details it00:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1368330 in xserver-xorg-video-sis (Ubuntu) "Please remove obsolete X related packages from the Utopic archive." [Undecided,Fix released]00:44
user51564894OerHeks, teward Oh okay. Thanks!00:45
after_rI cant not install ubuntu 14.10 on my macbookpro8,3, I have the same error as here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/541036/macbook-pro-ubuntu-install-freezes-after-grub-menu00:45
tewarduser51564894: apparently it was blocking migration of xserver in Utopic.  As well...00:45
tewarduser51564894: based on that bug... "glamor-egl has now been pulled into xserver itself and the external one is no longer needed."00:45
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!!!!!00:45
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!!!!!!00:45
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!!!!!!!00:45
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!00:45
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!00:45
yashmakRUN YOUR TONGUE FROM MY ANUS TO MY BELLYBuTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!00:45
unopasteyashmak you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted00:45
teward!ops | yashmak - spambot00:45
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user51564894teward, OerHeks How would one build software that links against libglamor, tho?00:45
user51564894Oh wait, maybe I can answer that question myself...00:46
PixelButterflyteward, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8663754/00:46
PixelButterflyteward, since this my first time configuring an ethernet connection I don't know if I did it right, but let me paste my /etc/networks file00:47
tewardPixelButterfly: /etc/network/interfaces if you did it via that.  use the pastebin though00:48
PixelButterflyI mean, the interfaces one. yep00:48
PixelButterflyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8663781/00:49
PixelButterflythat my interfaces file. I tried to assign something similar to a setup present in a Windows computer on the same network00:49
after_rso does anyone know why ubuntu wont install on macbook?00:49
tewardPixelButterfly: eth0 has no IPv4 on its interface - did you reboot after setting this up?  Also, did you verify the settings you put in are valid for the ethernet network you're connected to, and that the IP isn't already used elsewhere?00:50
axisysupgraded from trusty to utopic .. wifi stopped working.. Connect to hidden wifi network is grayed out as well..00:50
axisysany idea what is going on?00:50
PixelButterflyyes, I rebooted it. I'm not sure how to check if the IP is being used elsewhere, but I tried with a few diff numbers00:51
PixelButterflyby the way, if it helps I set up the manual connection via GUI00:51
PixelButterflychoosing the Manual option instead of Automatic DHCP, as that one didn't work at all :I00:51
daftykinsPixelButterfly: can you provide a screenshot of what you entered into network manager?00:51
PixelButterflysure daftykins :)00:51
daftykinsoh so it never worked?00:52
daftykinssounds like your wired interface doesn't work at all00:52
PixelButterflynope. in Windows, it did00:52
daftykinsyeah but Windows is a totally different story00:52
daftykinsif wired has never worked for you under Ubuntu / under Linux in general - you're gonna have a bad time00:52
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PixelButterfly:( how so?00:53
daftykinsit kind of suggests a non-functional driver00:53
daftykinsdid it work in the live session prior to installation?00:53
user51564894PixelButterfly, arping might work. arping -I $INTERFACE -D $IP_TO_CHECK00:53
PixelButterflynope, it didn't00:53
user51564894PixelButterfly, arping might work. arping -I $INTERFACE -D $IP_TO_CHECK00:54
PixelButterflyuser51564894, let me try00:54
user51564894(Sorry for possible dups, was disconnected for 60 seconds, trying that arping thing.00:54
after_rso does anyone know why ubuntu wont install on macbook?00:54
quazimodoI'm on trusty on an old laptop, whats the way to list my current graphics card driver?00:54
tewardPixelButterfly: if it didn't work under Live or ever, then it's probably an issue of unsupported hardware... that can be tricky to fix00:54
quazimodoI'm not sure if it's running fglrx or mesa00:54
PixelButterflywell, right now I'm using a tethered connection, can I still run arping?00:55
daftykinsafter_r: did you at any point explain what you tried?00:55
PixelButterflyteward, would letting you guys know what my hardware is help?}00:55
daftykins!mactel00:55
user51564894PixelButterfly, Not sure.00:55
tewardPixelButterfly: probably00:55
user51564894PixelButterfly, One would expect so...00:55
daftykinsPixelButterfly: knowing what the NIC is would be helpful yes00:55
PixelButterflyall I know is that it reads NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet00:55
after_rdaftykins: I burned the 14.10 amd64 iso to a usb thumb, botted, selected "Install Ubunty" .. it gives me a black screen and freezes00:55
daftykinsafter_r: ok you know there are mac specific ISOs yes?00:56
Bashing-omquazimodo: lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , sudo lshw -C display .00:56
after_rdaftykins: not for 14.1000:56
after_rill try 14.0400:56
daftykinsafter_r: if they're not out yet then nevermind00:56
after_rk00:56
daftykinsafter_r: what age of mac is it?00:56
after_r201100:56
daftykinsso are you using rEFInd?00:56
after_rits a macbookpro model "macbookpro8,3"00:57
after_rno00:57
PixelButterflyarping says that it sent a few broadcasts, but there were no responses00:57
PixelButterflydaftykins, NIC?00:57
user51564894PixelButterfly, lspci has a -v option which will tell you what kernel module is installed for a given device. You can restrict the list of devices examined with the -s option00:57
quazimodoBashing-om: yeah lshw kinda hangs00:57
daftykinsPixelButterfly: network interface card. confirm the model with "lspci"00:58
user51564894PixelButterfly, Then I guess either that IP is not in use, or your NIC is screwed.00:58
quazimodowait nvm, i'm impationt00:58
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: Forcedeth drivers ? Might have to change "options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0" .00:58
Bashing-omquazimodo: Give it time, takes a bit to inspect the hardware.00:58
after_rdaftykins: this is the latest "mac specific iso" i can find so Ill try it: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/00:58
user51564894quazimodo, Bashing-om  You can see the kernel driver in use for a given piece of hardware by using lspci -v00:59
Ben64after_r: don't install 13.10, its dead00:59
tewardPixelButterfly: do me a favor - do `lspci` and paste the output into the pastebin00:59
PixelButterflyBashing-om, I'm not sure I understood.. would you please elaborate? :)00:59
quazimodohttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/3acb6657c05249a2d0a700:59
after_rso wth am I supposed to install?00:59
quazimodono mention of what driver :/00:59
Ben64after_r: 14.0400:59
daftykinsafter_r: sec no, let me have a look00:59
after_rill try00:59
after_rI have a macbookpro8,3 and I want to install on the whole disk, using UEFI and GPT preferably01:00
PixelButterflyteward, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8663908/01:00
after_rbecause with a MBR my cdrom was not being detected01:00
after_ri think because of the bios emulation01:00
daftykinsafter_r: pretty sure you'll never get it running as the only OS.01:00
linuxuz3rguys01:00
daftykinsBIOS emulation won't preclude the optical working01:00
linuxuz3ramazon stock is down ;(01:00
user51564894PixelButterfly, can you put up a paste of lspci -v -s 0701:00
user51564894?01:00
after_rwhy cant i run it as the only os?01:00
PixelButterflyuser51564894, yes!01:01
user51564894PixelButterfly, cool!01:01
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: I rum AMD ( MPC55 chipset ) and with the onboard ethernet I have to change the options. .. Might run -> lsmod <- and see if you too are running forcdeth drivers.01:01
daftykinsafter_r: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso01:01
PixelButterflywith sudo or not?01:01
user51564894with sudo01:01
teward!offtopic > linuxuz3r01:01
ubottulinuxuz3r, please see my private message01:01
mihailhello01:01
OerHeksquazimodo, Radeon HD 3450/3470 will use the open driver, see the ATI page01:02
hxwhello01:02
PixelButterflyuser51564894, Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8663924/01:02
PixelButterflyit says something about forcedeth! O__O01:02
hxwhello01:02
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: look'n .01:02
user51564894Cool, so it's using the forcedeth driver.01:02
PixelButterflyI really appreciate your help guys :)01:03
after_rdaftykins: Ill try01:03
user51564894n/p. :)01:03
hxwwhere are you doing01:03
PixelButterflyare forcedeth drivers a bad thing?01:03
hxwthis is the first time I use this01:03
user51564894PixelButterfly, I don't know. I was just trying to figure out what drivers you were using, rather than speculating and trying a billion things. :)01:03
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: Try : echo "options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/forcedeth.conf .01:04
quazimodoOerHeks: upgraded from 12.04 on amd's drivers (catalyst etc)01:04
user51564894PixelButterfly, I can't contribute further here.01:04
daftykinsafter_r: as far as i understand it, the EFI on macs won't boot without an HFS+ partition being present01:04
hxware you using ubuntu?01:04
after_rdaftykins: no I got it to boot even into freebsd with a GPT01:04
quazimodoOerHeks: beena pain in the ass. I've purged them now, trying to see if i can get the open drivers working. I only have 1400x1050 or something as a screen mode too :(01:04
daftykinsafter_r: GPT has nothing to do with that01:04
PixelButterflythanks user51564894! I'll try what Bashing-om is suggesting. You've helped a lot!01:04
PixelButterflyBashing-om, with sudo, I assume?01:05
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: .. the sudo comes in on the "tee" .01:05
after_rthe only think the EFI wont boot is a MBD usb stick01:05
after_rthing *01:06
PixelButterflyok01:06
after_rMBR usb stick *01:06
PixelButterflyI'm sorry :(01:06
after_rand EFI looks for GPT01:06
after_rafaik01:06
daftykinsright the disk will be GPT but that's a pre-requisite01:07
daftykinsanyway nm see how it goes01:07
PixelButterflyalright, I just did that and the output was exactly the command that I pasted before |, options forcedeth msi=0 msix=001:07
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cfhowlettdaftykins, I missed part of the mac discussion but ... I've tested 14.04  AMD 64 iso (NOT mac) on macs at my local wallmart.  no special preparation required.  download iso, make iso with unetbootin, boot on a mac (efi boot option).  same usb also boots my non-mac machine01:09
daftykinsthat wasn't the convo here01:10
daftykinsbut fair enough01:10
daftykinscfhowlett: are you claiming everything worked out of the box on that specific model, though?01:11
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: reboot ? .. maybe we should have looked to see what they were set to before I advised to reset them, huh ?01:11
user51564894Bashing-om, why not just rmmod01:11
user51564894and then modprobe ?01:11
cfhowlettdaftykins, mac air 2014 - not isight camera but everything worked as I recall; video, audio, trackpad01:11
user51564894No need to reboot?01:11
Bashing-omuser51564894: Agrreed, workd do it .. but less confusing to reboot for a new user (??) .01:12
DuckDudesa._.01:12
user51564894Bashing-om, Roger that.01:13
PixelButterflywell.. yes lol01:13
PixelButterflyanyways, I'm gonna reboot01:13
PixelButterflyI'll brb Bashing-om01:14
Tyrandisso many people on this chat but no one is talking...01:17
eeeeyep01:18
Tyrandiswell then...01:18
user51564894Tyrandis, #ubuntu-offtopic is ----> that way. :)01:19
dimitry7#postfix01:19
user51564894Unless you had a support question?01:19
Tyrandisi do have a support question... ubuntu vs mint which would you pick and why01:20
Ben64thats not really a support question01:21
Tyrandisi just want people to talk01:21
Ben64then head over to #ubuntu-offtopic01:22
windyyyyyyneed to rescue a file from a dead windows hard drive using ubuntu(well in this case lubuntu) please help01:22
windyyyyyywe have booted lubuntu live cd in the computer now as we speak01:22
eeeewindyyyyyy: sudo apt-get install testdisk01:22
Ben64windyyyyyy: might want to ask ##windows, but photorec/testdisk might work01:22
eeeewindyyyyyy: open a terminal, and type the above ^^^^01:23
cfhowlettTyrandis, please hold this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic01:23
windyyyyyywe already tested the disk and it's dead. We have lunbutu booted live and we want to find c drive my documents in the windows operating system of the dead harddrive.01:24
Jon31is there a bash script that will auto install vpn on my machine?01:24
eeeewindyyyyyy: i think if the hard disk is dead, the best bet would be to image it first, then work on it, i guess01:25
PixelButterflyBashing-om, hello, nothing changed, and it seems like I'm still using the forcedeth drivers01:25
SchrodingersScatJon31: https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install01:25
windyyyyyydoes anyone know how to use lunbuntu to retrieve a document that I left on my dead windows harddrive01:25
Jon31thank you sir01:25
windyyyyyyI'm not going to image it.01:25
PixelButterflyBashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8664225/01:25
eeeewindyyyyyy: ok, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install testdisk01:25
cfhowlettwindyyyyyy, boot ubuntu.  mount the HDD.  navigate to file.  copy01:26
windyyyyyydoes that test the disk or help find the document?01:26
eeeewindyyyyyy: testdisk helps if the partition table is messed up or you deleted the file01:26
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: Well, let's think then that the original options were '0', and reset them to '1' -> echo "options forcedeth msi=1 msix=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/forcedeth.conf <- reboot once more, see if there is a change now.01:26
windyyyyyyWe didi not delete the file. The hardrive has been tested and it's dead. The partition is intact.01:27
PixelButterflydone, let me try, thanks!01:27
eeeeok, then open a terminal, type sudo parted -l01:28
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eeeeand get the name of the disk, ( /dev/sda etc. ), and the partition number01:28
windyyyyyyTest disk installed01:29
heath_Hello everyone, I am a complete noob, but my Windows laptop decided to have issues and pretty sure that the harddrive is dead, so I've booted off a Ubuntu usb. anyway, I need to use my laptop to do some professional writing but my 'a' key is completely broken. I'm  pasting it now. Can someone guide me to remap my 'q' key to be 'a' please?01:29
eeeewindyyyyyy: it might be unnecessary01:29
Ben64windyyyyyy: how is it "dead"01:29
eeeeheath_: sure01:30
heath_thank you01:30
windyyyyyyWe did a hardware test and the hardrive cannot take use to the desktop anymore.01:30
Ben64can you rephrase in english01:30
l0rdn1xlol01:31
eeeeheath_: open a terminal and type xmodmap -e "keycode 24=a"01:31
daftykinsheath_: you should know that it's unsafe for you to do any of this 'professional writing' on the live session without saving to a reliable storage volume01:31
Jon31did ubuntu discontinue wubi?01:32
joshwalterbrasil!!!01:32
heath_hey dfty, I'm doing it in the cloud now01:32
nadyHi I have just downloaded Ubuntu 14.1 ISO and I wanna make a bootable USB .. How to do it ?01:32
daftykinsnady: what OS are you typing from?01:32
SchrodingersScat!liveusb | nady01:33
ubottunady: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent01:33
Bashing-omJon31: In a manner of speaking, WUBI is no longer supported, incompatible with UEFI .01:34
cfhowlettJon31, yes.01:34
cfhowlett!br | joshwalter01:34
ubottujoshwalter: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.01:34
Jon31Bashing-om: what's the best alternative?01:34
Bashing-omJon31: A true dual boot .01:35
cfhowlettBashing-om, or virtualbox assuming sufficient ram on your machine01:35
heath_eeee, ignore that, I pasted it. Thank you!!01:36
Bashing-omChaosjuzo: Jon31 ^^, there is that most excellent option also .01:36
heath_It worked perfectly01:36
eeeeheath_: no problem01:36
PixelButterflyBashing-om, same as before01:36
eeeegreat01:36
cfhowlettJon31, if you go #vbox, use l/x buntu01:36
sethjAnyone seen anything like this in Utopic? http://i.imgur.com/DdzIORb.jpg01:36
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: Sorry, that was the extent of my knowledge.01:36
heath_There should be a simple keymapper though, I think, built into Ubuntu01:37
PixelButterflyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8664345/01:37
PixelButterfly:( it's ok01:37
PixelButterflyis there any way to see what drivers are available in my system?01:37
PixelButterflyor are those the only ones?01:37
lublubulubuthis windows laptop im on right now just dies (dead HDD) i need to use this live lubuntu cd to get the documents off the dead HDD...I am up and running live now please help?01:38
lublubulubudied*01:38
rypervenchelublubulubu: How did it die? What is it doing when you try to boot it?01:39
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: The Forcedeth driver is all that is availabale. ONE might install a PCI network card .01:39
PixelButterflyBashing-om, I found this, I guess I should try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvNetInstallation01:40
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: look'n01:40
PixelButterflyBashing-om, it seems to be pretty old though @__@01:40
after_rdaftykins: that iso on a usb stick and it doesnt even show an option in the Mac boot menu01:41
Bashing-omPixelButterfly: My exact thought .. way way old, highly doubful that is still applicable .01:41
daftykinsafter_r: how are you creating it?01:41
after_rit jus shows a "Windows" hard drive icon, but it should also show a "EFI Boot" icon01:41
after_rdaftykins: ff01:41
after_rdd01:41
daftykinsafter_r: exact command?01:42
after_rsudo dd if=~/ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M01:42
after_roops01:42
after_rthe other iso01:42
lublubulubudoesnt amtter rypervenche im tellin u hdd is dead01:42
lublubulubui just need to get my docs off it01:42
lublubulububut im running lubuntu live cd right now01:42
daftykinsafter_r: sometimes i change port when i see nothing and am at the boot device menu01:43
daftykins(or just replug)01:43
after_ri just did that01:43
lublubulubuhow do i navigate to my dead HDD and get that file i need01:43
daftykinsanother thought is format it fully, then try again01:43
after_rthat 201:43
daftykinsother than that, welcome to trying to run another OS on a mac.01:43
after_rusing gparted01:43
PixelButterflyI really want to try it but I'm afraidI might break something01:44
Bashing-omlublubulubu: IF that hard drive that is dead is sufferring from mechnical failure, will take big bucks to cope with that . IF the ubuntu file manager can see the disk and files .. well maybe we can do something.01:44
after_ri guess i can try to burn it01:44
lublubulubui only see small drives for some reason01:46
lublubulubui should be seeing a large drive01:46
after_ri can tell my macbook is getting tired of me trying to put other OSs on it because when i turn it off the screen flashes and I can hear a little high pitched squeek and when i turn it on again the lights in my room dim a little for a second01:47
lublubulubui wonder why lubuntu cannot see the HDD01:47
lublubulubuusually buntu can see dead HDD01:47
lublubulubuand can be used to retrieve files01:47
daftykinslublubulubu: must be properly dead. leave it off overnight and try again tomorrow, time time switched off can help failing disks.01:47
daftykins-time01:47
lublubulubutime?01:48
lublubulubui never heard of this01:48
daftykinspretty common fact01:48
Bashing-omlublubulubu: Maybe the disk in the hard drive is not spinning ( hardware failure ) or the partition table is corrupt ( testdisk, as advised ) .01:48
xanguaafter_r: that sounds like a problem with your wiring, not your computer01:48
lublubulubudisk will not boot windows anymore ran test in bois said HDD fail01:48
lublubulububios*01:48
lublubulubuthe HDD let us think we were installing new copy of windows till the very end then stalled upon reboot no HDD01:49
lublubulubunow HDD is unusable01:49
lublubulubucannot boot windows anymore need to use buntu to get my document01:50
daftykinslublubulubu: yes you keep saying this, and i've told you to try again tomorrow because that disk won't magically come back unless you've not got it plugged in correctly.01:50
NullWago_I am in the process of upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, something went wrong during the install and caused it to fail. My home directory is encrypted, and I don't have the FNEK. From the 14.10 live USB I can't mount the encrypted dir to use the passphrase. Am I out of luck?01:50
Bashing-omlublubulubu: IF you installed almost to the end, then any files on the disk have been over ridden. Test disk "might" be of some help. Overall general guidlines : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .01:51
NullWago_I should say that now when I boot I just get busybox, it no longer boots to my install01:51
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prime_hi gang new ubuntu user here! I love it but my openVPN password won't save in the config and will not connect. The pwd is in seahorse, but I can't get it to connect. Any ideas? Thanks in adavnce!01:56
prime_I'm using the gui01:57
after_rok ist still cant boot from the usb stick01:57
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after_rshoud i be using unetbootin?01:58
after_rto make it01:58
NullWago_Can anyone advise on mounting a encrytped home directory from a live usb with the passphrase?01:58
after_rdaftykins: also, if I run gparted on the usb stick it says that the filesystem is not known for that partition after I write the img to the stick01:58
after_rthis sucks, i hate osx02:00
nadysir I am using ubuntu how to make a usb bootable for installing Ubuntu 14.102:03
cfhowlettnady, startup-disk-creator or unetbootin02:04
nadyI tried startup boot creater and its not working02:04
gr33n7007hafter_r, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx02:04
after_rim not on osx02:05
after_rin using ubuntu02:05
prime_hi gang new ubuntu user here! I love it but my openVPN password won't save in the config and will not connect. The pwd is in seahorse, but I can't get it to connect. Any ideas? Thanks in adavnce!02:05
prime_I'm using the gui02:05
after_rin in ubuntu02:05
gr33n7007hoh, my bad02:05
after_ron another pc02:05
nadyhow to install unetboot ?02:06
lotuspsychje!info unetbootin | nady02:06
ubottunady: unetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 603-1 (utopic), package size 216 kB, installed size 839 kB02:06
cfhowlettnady unetbootin ... look in the software center02:06
gr33n7007hafter_r, try replacing .iso with .img then dd it02:06
after_rwhat dmg?02:07
gr33n7007hafter_r, no .img02:07
after_rhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/02:07
after_rwhat img?02:07
goliathAny GRUB2 gurus here?02:07
gr33n7007hafter_r, yes02:07
after_ryes what?02:07
after_rwhere is the img?02:07
lotuspsychjegoliath: just ask your question mate02:07
gr33n7007htry changing the blah.iso to blah.img02:08
goliathlotuspsychje, i just can't figure out why GRUB2 won't show Windows 8.1 in the OS boot list...02:08
after_rwhat will changing the name of the file do?02:08
goliathlotuspsychje, i tried Boot-repair with a lot of different settings and it still doesn't work02:09
lotuspsychjegoliath: did you try update-grub?02:09
Yriedoes anyone have a suggestion for a bandwidth monitor02:09
goliathlotuspsychje, of course, yes02:09
gr33n7007hI'm sure I heard in some forum somewhere it picks it up at boot when changing to img suffix02:09
lotuspsychjegoliath: so you did a dualboot ubuntu/win8, did you change bios to secureboot off?02:10
after_rno02:10
goliathlotuspsychje, it is off.. As well as Legacyboot02:10
gr33n7007hand you've tried?02:10
jorenI'm trying to use a preseed to setup my partitions but I can't for the life of me get the root to use the maximum disk size.. http://pastebin.com/SAW178cg is my latest itteration02:10
after_rgr33n7007h: if im using the dd command it doesnt matter what the file is called02:10
after_rthe data is the same02:11
lotuspsychjegoliath: can you give details how you setup win8 and ubuntu?02:11
goliathlotuspsychje,  sure.. want my partitions?02:11
jorenactually, god! that latest one works. Nevermind. ^_^02:11
lotuspsychjegoliath: did you have win8 first and make new partition for ubuntu, then install ubuntu?02:12
goliathlotuspsychje, exactly.. My computer is an HP envy dv6 with Windows 8 pre-installed..02:12
lotuspsychjegoliath: how did you install ubuntu after?02:13
goliathlotuspsychje, when i installed Ubuntu for the first time, i just created a big ext4 partition and put liunx on it02:13
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LinusTorvaldIIsounds like u did a clean wipe02:14
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lotuspsychjegoliath: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210914/grub-does-not-show-a-windows-8-option-after-dual-boot02:14
goliathlotuspsychje, thanks.. lemme see02:14
axisysany idea why I can have network-manager to start at boot only if I have static-network-up commented out in /etc/init/network-manager.conf file02:14
axisyssudo initctl emit static-network-up hangs .. so I had to commented out..02:15
axisysfound the direction from here http://askubuntu.com/questions/220377/why-doesnt-network-manager-start-at-boot02:15
LinusTorvaldIIw8 makes things very hard i tried to run a live buntu cd on one today had to go into bios 1st and make 2 changes to even run it live02:15
lotuspsychjeLinusTorvaldII: true, thats why i dont like dualboots :p02:16
spaztikthat has nothing to do with windows02:16
spaztikchanging your bios is a hardware implementation, not windows related02:16
LinusTorvaldIIi actually had to change bios to legacy mode and turn off secure boot to run live cd02:16
goliathlotuspsychje, Okay.. so they tell me to add a script to 40_custom..02:19
goliathlotuspsychje, His hard drive is (hda0,gpt1)02:19
goliathlotuspsychje, in my case, Win8 is on /dev/sda3... What should be my input?02:20
lotuspsychjegoliath: you can also make your life easy and install ubuntu on whole hd and virtualbox w802:20
LinusTorvaldIIdual boots are a bit risky nowadays02:21
goliathlotuspsychje, Tried it once.. gaming sucks :S02:21
LinusTorvaldIIalways run alternative OS in a VM02:21
LinusTorvaldIIwindows has a way of queering dual boots at some point02:21
Roidanyou can always fix the mbr with an ubuntu rescue disk02:22
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LinusTorvaldIIbut as far as installing dual boot, he has not mentioned all the built in roadblocks set by w8 that would have stopped him from even booting the disk? if he mananged to even ge tthat far-we all know if windows was installed 1st the bootloader choice menu is installed by default and u should not have to re-do grub at all.02:23
LinusTorvaldIIthus i suspect there is a pieve of this puzzle missing02:24
LinusTorvaldIIpiece*02:24
fpm1984Anyone else having ubiquity installer probs in 14.4?02:27
fpm1984Crashes every time02:28
eeeewhere does it crash?02:28
fpm1984Right after it ask for my location in the world. I've made it as far as user name setup, then ur crashes02:30
fpm1984Also seems to have left my HDD slightly.. Not working:-)02:30
Dr_DanQ:  i have a pulse-audio problem that started after launching audicity for first time.  Its an Asus netbroke.  :)   The headphone stream/path is now re-directed to speakers.  And no matter what i cant get sound thru headphones02:37
Dr_DanIf i use pavucontrol and select Headphones,  it still comes thru speakers at a lower level.  And when i chnage 'headphone' volume it actually adjusts spkr volume02:39
gshmuhow to create live usb 14.10 under 14.0402:39
Dr_DanAny ideas?02:39
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lanksIs it worth to upgrade to 14.10? i am on 14.04 and is so solid02:41
lotuspsychje!lts | lanks02:41
ubottulanks: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)02:41
lotuspsychjelanks: its up to your choice mate, you want the newest or the longest support?02:42
gshmulanks:  I just want try 14.1002:42
tewardlanks: if you want stability i'd stick to the LTSes02:42
tewardlanks: if you want the newest software with a much shorter support period, update to 14.1002:42
lotuspsychjegshmu: you can download the 14.10 iso and create an usb with the disk creator app02:42
gshmulotuspsychje: under 14.04 create the usb can't boot02:43
gshmulotuspsychje: Due to changes in syslinux, it is not currently possible to use usb-creator from 14.04 and earlier releases to write USB images for 14.10; we believe that it is also not possible to use usb-creator from a 14.10 system to write USB images for earlier releases. For now the workaround is to use a matching release of Ubuntu to write the images, but we intend to issue updates soon to work around this incompatibility. 132580102:43
lotuspsychjehmm02:43
yiatiWhere could I start to read about debugging 3d-rendering not working? I am on 14.04 64-bit on a Windows 7 64-bit host through virtualbox and can't seem to get off of the LLVM version02:44
cfhowlettbad error.  BAD.02:44
gshmuI need find any function to create the live usb02:44
lotuspsychjegshmu: try unetbootin02:44
lanksThanks for reply i was following some reviews about 14.10 and i only saw minor changes my problem is that i like new things02:44
cfhowlettlanks, only 9 months suppot02:44
cfhowlett*support*02:44
Dr_DanQ:  i have a pulse-audio problem that started after launching audicity for first time.  This is xubuntu14 & Asus netbook.  The headphone stream/path is now re-directed to speakers.  And no matter what i cant get sound thru my headphones.  Even if i use alsa-mixer its still redirected02:45
gshmulotuspsychje: any tool can create mulit boot02:45
lotuspsychjegshmu: yes multiboot system02:45
gshmulotuspsychje: ary you sure it under ubuntu?02:45
lotuspsychjegshmu: i have used multiboot for all my ubuntu iso's on 1 stick02:46
gshmulotuspsychje: I need one under ubuntu to create ...02:46
cfhowlettgshmu, as suggested repeatedly: unetbootin02:47
gshmuthanks. downloaded02:47
Dr_DanAlso,   at random times i hear a  "click"  or  a  "pop"  sound.   Like an audio switch or path is opening/closing02:48
gshmuit's may not support 14.1002:49
Dr_DanBut no sound in headphones.   Im thinking of wiping the ubuntu and re-install02:49
Dr_DanIf i use pavucontrol and select Headphones,  it still comes thru speakers at a lower level.  And when i chnage 'headphone' volume it actually adjusts spkr volume02:49
Dr_DanAnyone have ideas on how to troubleshoot this.  Im not an expert in pulse/alsa02:51
editionmy attempts to compile Rigs of Rods, for ubuntu have failed.02:52
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Guest66465ERROR  root: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\ubuntu\\install\\lubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso'  Can anyone tell me what this means?02:53
lotuspsychje!sound | Dr_Dan02:53
ubottuDr_Dan: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.02:53
Guest66465Im guessing Windows isn't allowing permission?02:53
gshmuyeah Permission denied02:54
Guest66465How do I get around that?02:54
gshmuright-click under file02:54
Guest66465ok02:54
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andlabsHi. I update dmy system last night and now GTK+ programs are ignoring my fontconfig settings. What's going on? http://pastie.org/9673884 update log. Thanks.02:56
[][][[][][][is there any tut on linux other than man ?02:57
andlabsactually on second thought02:58
andlabsmy system is now very much thoroughly broken02:58
andlabskde system settings is telling me there's nothing to display02:58
Guest66465gshmu? Right click under file? Where?02:58
cfhowlett[][][[][][][, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html02:58
gshmuGuest66465: 安全 or 属性安全。。02:59
[][][[][][][looking for articles cfhowlett02:59
gshmucfhowlett: ./unetbootin-linux-608: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:00
cfhowlettgshmu, how did you install?03:00
gshmucfhowlett: i downloaded it's bool file03:00
nearsthowdy good ppl :)03:01
andlabsso so far I have seen four problems03:01
andlabs- KDE taskbar not showing programs03:01
andlabs- Network Manager Plasmoid not showing up03:01
gshmuI'm not kde03:01
andlabs- GTK+ programs ignoring fontconfig settings03:01
lotuspsychje!manual | [][][[][][][03:01
ubottu[][][[][][][: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/03:01
cfhowlettgshmu, soooo ... sudo apt-get install unetbootin03:01
cfhowlettgshmu, or install from the software center03:01
andlabs- KDE System Settings not detecting anything03:01
gshmuexecutable (application/x-executable)03:02
andlabsanyone know a fix to ANY of these?03:02
nearstnew 14.10 force upgrade atm.lol03:02
[][][[][][][i want to familarize with commands03:02
[][][[][][][ill be using commands :/03:02
gshmusoft center is good idea03:02
lotuspsychje!bash | [][][[][][][03:03
ubottu[][][[][][][: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:03
Bashing-om[][][[][][][: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz <=advanced command line tutorial .03:03
Guest66465Thanks for the link cfhowlett, thats what I need. Night all.03:04
cfhowlett!server | [][][[][][][, install ubuntu server03:05
cfhowlettGuest66465, happy2help03:05
ubottu[][][[][][][, install ubuntu server: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server03:05
quentinHi guys, I know it is a very stupid question but I do not know a lot about computers. I have my ubuntu, I assigned it a fixed IP and now I can not connect to the internet anymore. Any thoughts on it?03:07
DuckDudeWhy do you need a fixed ip?03:08
quentinTo access my XBMC for the remote control on my phone03:09
JonJonGood evening folks03:09
yiatiI've run across "libGL error: failed to load driver: vboxvideo" in Ubuntu 14.04 in virtualbox with VBoxGuestAdditions-4.3.1203:09
daftykinsquentin: share how you configured the static IP. sounds like you missed something03:10
yiatiAnd can't seem to find any solutions or ways to debug it03:10
quentinI believe so :/03:10
Dr_Danlotuspsychje: thanks for the links, but the first link didnt help as i am getting audio just not thru headphones, and second link says 'As of 2012, much of this is outdated'.03:12
ubuntu-gnomewise03:12
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hxwwise?03:13
hxwwise man?03:13
wise111sorry, I'm in the live usb, having issues, and was trying to change my nick when it auto-joined the channel.03:13
JonJonHey guys, I've been given access to a rack at work with 10 x 1u servers... How would ubuntu open stack stand up to virtual machine management, I'll be needing various linux and windows servers. What do you guys think?03:13
hxwvirtual machine?03:14
JonJonI want to host VM's on top of it03:15
hxwI think you `d better use windows instead03:15
hxwVM IS MORE03:15
hxw WHILE YOU CAN USE WINE03:16
hxwDO YOU KNOW WINE?03:16
JonJonyeah03:16
JonJonI don't think you understand my goals. I want basic IaaS03:16
cbjaxxAre you running windows specific applications across the Os'es or is it also a mix? Its more of what you need as to what you want.. do you r application have unix services and applications or are they strictly windows?03:17
hxwMY ENGLISH IS POUR03:17
hxwFOR I AM A CHINESE03:17
JonJonI'll need both windows and linux virtual machines03:17
hxwBUT I THINK IF YOU WANT USE VM03:18
SchrodingersScat!capslock | hxw03:18
wise111So, when I boot, after POST it either goes to a blank gray screen and hangs, enters grub and I can select only ubuntu (then hangs), or one of my monitors is full of non-sense but I can tell gdm is running because I can half makeout some text and assets from the desktop...03:18
wise111Any ideas?03:18
hxwWAIT A MOUNT03:18
snowfortshello everyone! I have a question!03:19
daftykinsask it!03:19
snowfortsok!03:19
snowfortsI'm running Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 and use it primarily as a Chromium machine03:20
cbjaxxneed a minute Jon jon y pops is about to hit the what the hel parent say to their offspring real03:20
hxwHow about using vbox03:20
gshmuunetbootin how to remove????03:20
snowfortsit takes an annoying bit of time to open Chromium (older machine), but once it's open, it runs great03:20
snowfortsnow, is there a way to keep Chromium open all the time?03:21
snowfortslike when I accidentally hit Ctrl+W too many times and cllose out the whole program03:21
gshmuremove sys in usb03:21
hxwI http://www.2cto.com/os/201104/88201.html03:22
hxwthis is a way03:22
hxwTHIS IS A WAY TO USE VIRTUAL BOX03:22
hxwCHROMIUM IS GOOGLE WEB BROWER03:23
lotuspsychjesnowforts: maybe choose a lighter flavor like xubuntu or lubuntu03:23
crocketWhy does it take so much time to install xubuntu-desktop using netboot iso?03:24
crocketIt takes about an hour on my machine.03:24
SchrodingersScatsnowforts: you could probably write something to check if chromium-browser is running, and if not, run it03:24
snowfortslotuspsychje: I'm not concerned about performance, I just want Chromium to not close when I press Ctrl_W03:24
pavlosgshmu, remove the app? ... sudo apt-get remove unetbootin03:26
lotuspsychjesnowforts: maybe start session from terminal, see what happens03:26
crocketdisk group can ruin everything.03:27
crocketIt is almost as powerful as root.03:27
crocketIt's destructive.03:27
gshmupavlos: remove one system install by unetbootin at usb03:34
crocketDo you obey moore's law?03:34
hxwboxes is very good03:35
hxwI CAN USE BOXES INSTEAD OF VM03:36
cfhowletthxw, NO CAPS!!!03:36
hxwI am sorry03:36
cfhowletthxw, too distracting, too rude and not necessary03:36
crockethxm, Then, you're a boxer.03:36
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hxwI am sorry03:37
hxwI touch the caplock by mistake03:37
hxwI am so sorry03:37
cfhowletthxw, let's move on now ... what is your ubuntu question?03:38
hxwwhat is a better virtual machine?03:39
pavlosgshmu, I dont understand your comment03:39
hxwI just want to know03:39
Dr_DanQ:  i have a pulse-audio problem that started after launching audicity for first time.  Its an Asus netbroke.  :)   The headphone stream/path is now re-directed to speakers.  And no matter what i cant get sound thru headphones03:40
Dr_DanIf i use pavucontrol and select Headphones,  it still comes thru speakers at a lower level.  And when i chnage 'headphone' volume it actually adjusts spkr volume03:40
Dr_DanRunning 'live cd'  shows no problems  so its a config issue03:41
HewloThereHey guys! How do I set a users home directory recursively?03:41
gshmupavlos: I install two live cd how to remove one?03:41
Dr_DanAnyone here know about resetting pulseaudio config?03:41
prime_prime03:42
prime_Hello all03:42
pavlosgshmu, the usb is on /media/username/LIVE/ Change into that dir and rm the file.03:42
prime_I'm having some trouble with setting up an openvpn03:43
pavlosDr_Dan, just a thought ... rm .pulse/ dir under the username03:44
Dr_DanNot seeing it.  Could it be in another dir ?03:46
Dr_DanIs there a dpkg reconf for this03:47
pavlosDr_Dan, it could be under .config/pulse/03:50
Jodo3Hello, i just installed ubuntu and i have a 32gb for my OS and a 120gb for my games, but i do not have write permissions for my 120gb. how can i get perms for my 120gb so i can add my steam library to it? Thanks for helping :D03:50
gshmupavlos: thanks, i format it and reinstall one live cd03:51
pavlosgshmu, good03:52
Bentendo64So03:52
Bentendo64Is this the place to get ubuntu help?03:53
Jodo3not sure03:53
pavlosask your question03:54
Jodo3i think so but i havent got an anser yet03:54
guideXI have an announcement: I propose you call one of your future versions codename: bullseye womprat . That is all.03:55
Bentendo64Well, I'm having an issue upgrading to kernel 3.17 rc503:55
Jodo3can anyone help me get write permissions on my second hard drive?03:56
Bentendo64Hold on, I'll get the output soon03:56
pavlosJodo3, is the second drive mounted on ubuntu?03:56
Bentendo64Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.17.0-031700rc5-generic.postinst line 1025.03:56
Bentendo64dpkg: error processing package linux-image-3.17.0-031700rc5-generic (--install): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 203:56
Bentendo64Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-3.17.0-031700rc5-generic03:56
Jodo3pavlos, i beleive so in gparted it shows the lock keys on its ext4 partition03:57
Jodo3pavlos, im on xubuntu 14.0403:57
Jodo3pavlos, and this install is fresh today.03:57
pavlosJodo3, so there should be a /games which points to the 120GB, right?03:57
Jodo3pavlos, well, theres no data on it yet, i wanna get write permissions on it for user, so that i can place my steam library on it to download left 4 dead 2 so i can shoot zombies tonight on linux.03:58
Jodo3:D03:59
pavlosJodo3, can you pastebin the output of "mount -l" (that is lower L)04:01
Jodo3sure man!04:01
Jodo3pavlos: http://pastebin.com/kLR8FUrF04:02
Jodo3btw how you guys do the red text?? jw what does it mean? are you mad at me?04:02
somsip!who | Jodo304:03
ubottuJodo3: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)04:03
somsipJodo3: and that highlights it in your IRC client04:03
Jodo3!who somsip test? did it work?04:03
ubottuJodo3: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:03
Jodo3oops04:04
Jodo3i feel stupid04:04
pavlosJodo3, each irc client may paint the reply another color ... I do not see your 120 GB mounted. I see a usb stick and the standard /dev/sda104:04
Jodo3the usb stick might be wrongly read as my g19 keyboard, as i do not have a usb stick.04:05
pavlosJodo3, since you said that the 120 is part of your disk, there should be another partition /dev/sda204:05
Jodo3it says its mounted cause i have the option to unmount it04:06
pavlosJodo3, well, there is the /dev/sdb1 whatever it is ...04:06
Jodo3i have a sda1, sda2, sda5 swap.. and sdb1 my 120gb. ignoring the last HDD cause i dont care about my terabyte HDD04:07
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Jodo3yeah the sdb1 is the 120gb :D04:07
Jodo3the 32 and 120 are ssd's and the 1k is a hdd i dont care about.04:08
wise123Hey there, can anybody please offer me some help.  My problem is that I installed 14.10, and couldn't boot.  I ran boot-repair from the live-usb, and now I can access grub, but I still can't boot into ubuntu, or windows for that matter.04:08
pavlosJodo3, ok, since sdb1 is the 120, it shows mounted as rw04:08
Jodo3pavlos, on how can i get write perms for it ?04:09
Jodo3pavlos, yeah it has the keys icon next to it in gparted. i think its locked. i can reformat it if you want. but i just need to get user perms for it, i recall a thing with adding the uuid to fstab file and something like that04:10
pavlosJodo3, go to /media/jodo/cebb562b-146d-4a0b-ad0f-3f605de97911 ... can you write a file there?04:10
Jodo3pavlos, no thats the thing, i cant04:11
Jodo3pavlos !who test?04:11
Jodo3i messed that up too didnt i?04:11
Jodo3i just hope im not too stupid for linux. i feel smart on windows. but i feel stupid here without being able to right click or click next for everything like on windows04:12
Jodo3idk why its so hard to use a second hard drive on linux?04:13
pavlosJodo3, you should be able to write, mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /games (make that /games first)04:13
Jodo3i cant make a folder on it tho04:13
Jodo3i cant make anything04:14
pavlosJodo3, there is a learning curve for Linux04:14
pavlosJodo3, make the /games under the root dir, use sudo04:14
pavlosJodo3, use sudo for mount as well04:14
Jodo3sudo /games ?04:14
Bentendo64sudo mkdir /games04:15
Bentendo64then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /games04:15
Jodo3ok so sudo mkdir /games /dev/sdb1  ??04:15
Jodo3oh04:15
Jodo3ok tyvm04:15
Jodo3mount: only root can mount cebb562b-146d-4a0b-ad0f-3f605de97911 on /media/user/games04:17
Jodo3.04:17
Jodo3?04:17
Jodo3if i can write to it then i cant move the steam library04:17
Jodo3cant*04:17
pavlosJodo3, the command was, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /games    did that command work?04:18
Jodo3yes i beleive so04:18
Jodo3i cant mount it to look at it04:19
pavlosJodo3, then change dir into /games and put a file there.04:19
Jodo3i see games in devices04:19
Jodo3ok thanks for the help!04:19
teste=)04:21
teste:)04:21
explodingmangoHello, is it normal that I can't hibernate or suspend a Thinkpad R51 running on 14.04?04:22
explodingmango(Actually, it's Lubuntu, so the 2nd question is, does it make sense to ask here?)04:22
nearstexplodingmango, try this. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/04:23
explodingmangoOkay, does that also apply to suspending as well? Suspending just crashes04:25
explodingmangoActually, probably I should just see if I can get suspending working first, then look at hibernating later...04:25
explodingmangoOkay, I guess I'll ask the suspend question: When I try to suspend, it goes to a black screen with the moon-icon light blinking forever. I'm forced to restart the computer, at which point it asks me to send a bug/crash report.04:27
Bashing-omexplodingmango: As a thought, is your swap partition in excess of the amount of ram ? ( hibernating ) .04:28
nearstexplodingmango, yes. ur swap partition and big ram will help04:29
explodingmangoBashing-om: My ram is reported as 740, my swap_1 is reported as 797 MB04:31
editionI got rigs of rods, to start.04:32
editionexcept there's no renderer available.04:32
explodingmangoAnd... hm, while I'm asking: If I'm going to be testing suspend/hibernate, and if I'll end up having to uncleanly power off my laptop a lot, is there a safer way to go about that? Those constant start-up disk integrity checks don't sound healthy...04:33
nearstexplodingmango, sudo mount && sudo df -h ?04:34
nearstexplodingmango, swap size = 2x ram size04:35
aleatorybugSo.. I was having (known, very known) issues trying to boot a 14.10 usb key made with 14.04.  So I upgraded to 14.10.. I actually want to do a fresh install though so I made another usb stick.  This one pops up the eigengrau background with the icons at the bottom but then just restarts :[04:35
nearstbrb, rebooting04:35
explodingmangoAha. Yeah, I was hoping to put off messing with swap size cause it sounds like a pain, but yeah haha. Sorry for the delay, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8666164/04:37
explodingmango(^directed to nearst)04:37
aleatorybughe's rebooting, explodingmango04:38
explodingmangowhoops just noticed04:38
editionany ideas?04:38
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aleatorybugso any thoughts on getting 14.10 usb installer to not restart several seconds after the screen turning that purplish black color with the icons at the bottom?04:42
jorquerinoalguien conversa en esto?04:43
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pavlos!es | jorquerino04:44
ubottujorquerino: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:44
aleatorybuggonna try cntrl alt f1.  hope for the best!04:45
aleatorybugwell, i got to the menu with 'try ubuntu', 'install ubuntu' 'check disk' 'check memory'.  any of those options besides the memory one result in a restart04:49
cfhowlett!nomodeset | aleatorybug,04:50
ubottualeatorybug,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:50
aleatorybugcfhowlett, thanks, I'll try it104:52
aleatorybug*!04:52
aleatorybugfor what it's worth, this is a chromebook04:52
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aleatorybugNo luck. :[04:59
guest-98RvHhafter installing AMD driver, ubuntu14.10 failed to start GUI. Then I removed fglrx* in TTY. But I still cannot log in while logging in as GUEST is ok05:31
guest-98RvHheverytime I click 'login'. screen turns black for a while and return to login screen05:32
guest-98RvHhNow I log in as GUEST05:33
spaztikguest-98RvHh: have you tried sudo nvidia-xconfig?05:34
spaztikerrr no, sorry wrong paste05:34
spaztiksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:34
jayauraguest-98RvHh,  Try blacklisting flgrx05:35
jayauraguest-98RvHh, if at all some files remained, especially the kernel modules, that might get loaded05:35
rommel092079good day guys. I am using ubuntu with easyhotspot. can I would like to add port for ssh and mysql but I dont know how to add. can you help me.05:38
guest-98RvHhspaztik, I tried it just now, but seems not work05:38
guest-98RvHhjayaura, how to blacklist it05:38
rommel092079help guys05:39
spaztikguest-98RvHh: have you tried the following:::::05:40
spaztikCTRL+ALT+F1, log in, then sudo service mdm stop05:40
spaztikthen rename your xorg.conf, and run startx05:40
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guest-98RvHhspaztik, mdm unrecognized service05:42
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spaztikguest-98RvHh: sorry, realized i'm in ubuntu channel, change mdm to lightdm05:43
CarlFKcan anything convert photoshop files?  even png would be a help05:49
cfhowlettCarlFK, try gimp05:49
cfhowlettCarlFK, far from perfect.  you'd be better served by rasterizing those files before working them in gimp05:50
boggleAfter a dist-upgrade to 14.04, netflix no longer works. My user-agent switcher seems to be working, and I followed the instructions here (http://fds-team.de/cms/pipelight-installation.html) but netflix continues to prompt me to install silverlight. Anyone know of a solution or have any troubleshooting ideas?05:51
daftykinsboggle: netflix is native now, none of those tricks are needed05:52
boggledaftykins: isn't that just chrome? i'm using chromium05:54
SachiruUpgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, now my password isn't accepted. What gives?05:54
boggledaftykins: i thought chromiu didn't have the drm extensions or something05:54
daftykinsmaybe, but is that a problem?05:54
daftykinswhy jump through hoops when you can make it work properly?05:54
CarlFKcfhowlett: sweet - I didn't think gimp would read it.    and yeah, I'll try to get other formats too.  I really need inkscape, so hopefully I can get something svg like.05:55
cfhowlettCarlFK, inkscape is free!  get it now!05:55
sacarlsonSachiru: never heard that one before,  you sure you don't have caps lock on?  look for the caps lock light05:55
boggledaftykins: would prefer to get it working in chromium05:55
daftykinsok good luck then05:56
sacarlsonSachiru: or maybe the default keyboard language got changed05:56
cfhowlettCarlFK, also see http://gimpmagazine.org/ and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/05:56
cfhowlettCarlFK, OR you could go whole hog and install the ubuntustudio metapackages for photography and graphics.05:56
CarlFKcfhowlett: i'v been using inkscape for years.  I'll be working with somone who "is most comfortable with photoshop"  and this one off project isnt' going to make him switch05:56
cfhowlettCarlFK, understood05:56
sacarlsonCarlFK: inkscape rocks by the way05:57
SachiruCaps lock not turned on05:57
boggleAfter a dist-upgrade to 14.04, netflix no longer works. My user-agent switcher seems to be working, and I followed the instructions here (http://fds-team.de/cms/pipelight-installation.html) but netflix continues to prompt me to install silverlight. Anyone know of a solution or have any troubleshooting ideas?05:57
SachiruKeyboard language? Hmm. Good to check, however I can't login05:57
SachiruSince all passwords aren't working05:57
nusris there an easy to use database for linux? NOT mysql and similar ones...think evernote but database05:58
cfhowlettnusr, librebase05:58
nusrcfhowlett: thanks.05:58
sacarlsonSachiru: I'm not sure they make language changeable from login,  I have autologin set so never see it.  if all else fails you will have to start system in single user mode and change password of at least a sudo user05:59
cfhowlettnusr, https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Database_105:59
triplcHi all05:59
triplcHow to use HDMI monitor's speakers without xrand it on? (ie xrand --output HDMI1 --off)05:59
* triplc does not want to face the big monitor all day long05:59
nusrcfhowlett: great. looks like what i wanted..cheers06:00
cfhowlettnusr, happy2help06:00
* triplc some time just need to type code, irrsi; so not want to get distract by that big monitor06:00
slyrusfwiw the upgrade dialog box still warns that utopic is a development release06:01
Guest38521I really don't like it - my Ubuntu changed the time (and data!) on its own06:02
Guest38521aha, seems like tzdata was updated because there was a security bug. Interesting.06:06
boggleAfter a dist-upgrade to 14.04, netflix no longer works. My user-agent switcher seems to be working, and I followed the instructions here (http://fds-team.de/cms/pipelight-installation.html) but netflix continues to prompt me to install silverlight. Anyone know of a solution or have any troubleshooting ideas?06:10
DaleK5whrboggle: netflix works now in google chrome for linux06:11
boggleDaleK5whr: yeah, i'd like to get it working in chromium though06:14
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DaleK5whrboggle: chrome supports more things then chromium06:15
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samthewildonequestion, when I was on unity (14.04) I used gedit heavily and had some options which are not present on gnome 3 (14.04).06:32
samthewildoneExample, I was able to change the theme of gedit, spacing and a few other options. I searched 'apt-cache search gedit' and installed almost everything related to gedit but, still cannot gedit the edition or version which is on unity (14.04)06:33
samthewildone!gedit06:34
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code06:34
linhi06:35
spaztik!code06:35
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator06:35
spaztikand intellij06:35
lini have an external HDD using 3.0 ~ when connected to pc. dmesg and lsusb shows up. but /dev dont have any.06:37
linany idea ?06:37
samthewildoneI guess its a build for unity.06:37
samthewildonespaztik, ^06:37
lini have an external HDD using 3.0 ~ when connected to pc. dmesg and lsusb shows up. but /dev dont have any.06:39
lin<lin> any idea ?06:39
qpan321Hi, I'm in a pickle. If anyone can help me please. I installed ruby gem, then sass, then compass, and a whole bunch of thing on my terminal by just following guides online. Now I can't get sass on my terminal. Here is a ridiculous list of terminal code I copied: http://codepad.org/UE3JdIgm06:39
sacarlsonanyone ready to help me test backdoor https://github.com/sacarlson/Backdoor/wiki  it should be useful to help assist people remotely. Note use only with people you trust or with virtualbox setups to figure out problems with groups06:39
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somsipsacarlson: you keep doing this every few days. This isn't a beta testing channel you know06:41
lini have an external HDD using 3.0 ~ when connected to pc. dmesg and lsusb shows up. but /dev dont have any.06:45
linanyone help me  please ?06:45
somsiplin: output of sudo fdisk -l?06:45
linnope. not listed06:45
spaztiksamthewildone: wait, what's a build for unity?06:46
samthewildoneHelp, what's the deal with this > http://pastebin.com/Rjwz2nZh06:46
samthewildoneIf I do a "apt-get purge gedit" it will take the desktop,06:47
spaztikcuz gedit is a dep of gnome i think06:47
spaztikhave you just tried apt-get remove gedit?06:48
samthewildonesame thing06:48
spaztikhuh... on mint it removes just gedit in that case06:48
spaztikin that case, try removing directly with dpkg?06:48
samthewildoneno06:48
spaztikdpkg -r gedit06:49
HexagoniteCould anybody help me with my Xubuntu install? When I got to install it, my connection would turn off every 3-4 seconds, this doesn't happen in the live CD.06:50
samthewildoneok bed time, talk to you later.06:50
samthewildonemy eyes are twitching06:50
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sacarlsonHexagonite: connection via wire or wireless?06:52
HexagoniteWireless* forgot to indicate06:52
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sacarlsonHexagonite: you might try wicd wireless manager.  but I don't recall anyone else experiencing such problem06:53
Nadyhi i have just downloaded and installed ubunt 14.1 and its stuck again and again06:54
randsonjshellow06:55
Hexagonitesacarlson: Weirldy this doesn't happen on 14.10 and other 14.04 remixes, only on Xubuntu 14.04 :(06:55
sacarlsonHexagonite: some wireless adapters have an option to reduce rf power with added params,  If those values got changed that the only thing I can think that would cause such a condition06:55
randsonjssomeone?06:55
MosecoWhat would you guys consider to be the best tweaks to make ubuntu a primary OS (besides wine)06:56
Hexagonitesacarlson: I'll go try wicd then :(06:56
sacarlsonHexagonite: you might also look at what settings are now set with network-manager with iwconfig06:57
somsipMoseco: OMGUbuntu usually has hints like this. Regular usage and add what you need may be the best idea06:57
Mosecosomsip: Thanks06:58
sacarlsonMoseco: most important to me to use ubuntu as a desktop is to have the added extra codecs installed06:58
NadyUbuntu 14.1 is not working fine,,, Its being stuck again and again ... in one hour it has stuck twice06:59
sacarlsonNady: bummer,  is there a backup botton you can push to go back to the working one07:00
Nadywhat might be the reason07:00
NadyI had to restart the laptop07:01
SubbaraoHi, I have two bootable HDDs. I have set HDD-1 as bootable HDD and it boots. fine. When file system on HDD-1 I want to boot from second hard disk automatically. How can I do this from grub ?07:01
sacarlsonNady: not much info there to work from.  like what app was running when it got stuck07:01
Nadysoftware center07:01
sacarlsonNady: oh so maybe just a slow of shutdown repository,  you can change the default repository to a local or better one07:02
Nadyalso I am feeling this OS is running slow... how can I make it faster07:02
Hexagonitesacarlson: I've fixed the issue by not using Google's DNS :( Any idea on this?07:02
Nadyhos to change sacar07:03
Nadyhow to change Sacarlson ?07:03
sacarlsonHexagonite: no not really,  maybe lack of ipv6 support from your ISP07:03
Hexagonitebut I only set up the dns on ipv407:03
sacarlsonHexagonite: so you manually added some value to resolve or removed a local dns server?07:05
Nadycan someone help me ?07:05
Hexagonitesacarlson: removed a local dns server07:05
sacarlsonNady: you can select the download server with synaptic https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu07:08
sacarlsonHexagonite: I'm not sure,  I run local dns here to my benifit as my local dns from my crapy isp fails more often than i would like07:09
Hexagonitesacarlson: I'm going the same thing because my ISP limits certain servers...07:10
Hexagonitedoing*07:10
sacarlsonHexagonite: I also have problems with my isp not having ANY ipv6 support so I have to be sure to set AAAA returns off on bind907:10
MosecoI have an nvidea graphics card, is it better to use the nvidea drivers or the x.org nouveau?07:10
snpresentnouveau07:11
sacarlsonHexagonite: oh I have at times it seems my isp filtered out most the dns servers that bind9 used that would kill it for a time but normaly it would return to opperational, so for that I add backup dns07:11
somsipMoseco: what are you using it for? Just desktop, or ganes?07:11
rommel092079good day guys. I am using ubuntu with easyhotspot. can I would like to  add port for ssh and mysql but I dont know how to add. can you help me.07:11
Mosecosomsip: No gaming07:11
somsipMoseco: nv may be okay for you if you don't have any fancy desktop, like multi-monitors07:11
Mosecosomsip: I have 3 monitors07:12
somsipMoseco: may be easier to setup with nvidea-settings then. I use dual head and it was dead easy with the proprietary drivers07:12
Mosecosomsip: gtx 770 card07:12
Mosecosomsip: thanks07:12
somsipMoseco: users do get multi-monitors working on nv, but I get the idea it's a bit trickier.07:13
rommel092079anybody ?07:14
PaulVernIs there a good guide for setting up the Amd Catalyst drivers on Ubuntu 14.04?07:25
PaulVernI'd like to run the .run file07:25
PaulVernbut have heard bad things about doing that07:25
PaulVernI have an R9 280x07:25
Ben64PaulVern: using the drivers from the website is not supported07:26
PaulVernReally?  The Official AMD drivers from the official AMD website is unsupported?07:27
Ben64in this channel, yes07:27
PaulVernah07:27
Ben64amd drivers are in the ubuntu repositories07:27
PaulVernI've tried them, on Xubuntu and Ubuntu.  Both times I ended up unable to boot07:28
PaulVernwas thinking of trying the proper .run package07:28
Ben64!ati | PaulVern07:28
ubottuPaulVern: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto07:28
Ben64you try all that?07:28
PaulVernNot yet :)07:29
PaulVern$ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BAK07:31
PaulVerncp: cannot stat ‘/etc/X11/xorg.conf’: No such file or directory07:31
PaulVernI guess I should have mentioned I'm on Ubuntu 14.0407:31
somsipPaulVern: xorg.conf is not created by default. Check if it's there.07:32
PaulVernit's not07:32
PaulVernso skipping step107:32
sacarlsonPaulVern: I think xorg.conf defaults to autosense, only if you want to override do you manualy create xorg.conf07:32
PaulVernah, okay.  autosense07:33
PaulVernhaven't done this stuff for years07:33
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sacarlsonPaulVern: also most the video driver propriatary drivers will at times create xorg.conf for you at install time07:34
PaulVernThe Ubuntu site has instructions for installing from the amd site.07:35
PaulVernsh amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/trusty07:36
PaulVernthis is not supported here?07:36
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SachiruHmm07:36
sacarlsonPaulVern: might you have looked in ppa for your device?07:37
SachiruQuery: Would it be possible to install 14.10 to a USB inside a VM, then later on DD that usb drive to actual disk?07:37
SachiruSo that I can install and configure and test all on the USB before moving to production?07:37
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sacarlsonSachiru: I wanted to try that to test a usb boot disk on virtualbox but have failed to find the method.  I think it can be done, I'm just too lazy to continue the attempt07:38
sacarlsonSachiru: I found testing the iso file in most cases on virtualbox was all that was needed07:39
sacarlsonSachiru: this wasn't write when I attempted it so try it and tell me if it works http://www.howtogeek.com/187721/how-to-boot-from-a-usb-drive-in-virtualbox/07:42
after_rHello... Can someone please help me install Ubuntu 14.10 on a macbook 8,3 in EFI mode? I followed the instructions here (http://askubuntu.com/questions/395879/how-to-create-uefi-only-bootable-usb-live-media) but I am getting the exact error as this (http://askubuntu.com/questions/541036/macbook-pro-ubuntu-install-freezes-after-grub-menu) .07:43
PaulVernI ran this: sh amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/trusty07:44
PaulVernbut it's only using 1 CPU core07:44
Sachiru@sacarlson: Yes, but what I want is to install it to a disk image or usb drive that I can modify, install packages on, and configure inside a development VM07:44
PaulVernkind of a waste of my i7 4770k07:44
PaulVernany way I can make it run on more cores?07:44
after_rit just freezes... I removed "quit splash" from the grub command... and it shows a bunch of log lines .. makes the ubuntu sound but it stays at the white-text-on-black log console07:44
SachiruSo that later on I can just dd it to a disk and slot the disk in to the production machine07:44
PaulVernSachiru, I think that will work.  But make sure you match IDE/SATA in the VM, with what your production machine will run07:45
SachiruYeah07:47
SachiruThat way I can test if the config works in the lab too07:47
PaulVernrebooting after installing the driver.  #Wish me luck :)07:48
after_rcan i edit the command in the grub menu for "Install Linux" to not load the radeondrmfb video driver?07:51
after_rthe last line i see in the installer is fb: switching to radeondrmfb from EFI VGA and then it just freezes07:52
Juppihuhu , jemand im Laden ?07:57
Juppiwas läuft denn hier ?07:58
Ameuruxanyone tried ATI 8xxx series on 14.10????07:59
somsipjxf: it's a support forum, and it's English only please08:07
somsipjxf: meant for someone else08:07
Ameuruxhello,  who is the supp??08:07
cfhowlettAmeurux, "supp"???08:11
cfhowlett!de | jupp08:11
ubottujupp: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!08:11
Adamski_Hello08:13
Adamski_I have a one problem08:13
rommel092079how do you restart iptables ?08:13
rommel092079after applying changes to it?08:13
Adamski_I upgrade to 14.1008:14
Adamski_i don't load the desktop after login08:15
Adamski_could someone help me?08:15
Adamski_I speak spanish, any Speak spanish?08:16
wizbiti am using a /usr/share/xsession to autostart xbmc08:16
wizbithow can i autostart easystroke?08:16
cfhowlett!es | Adamski_,08:17
ubottuAdamski_,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.08:17
Adamski_can someone help me with a problem after upgrading 14.10???08:18
Adamski_Gracias, ubottu08:18
levisbak_Adamski_, don't ask just ask :-)08:19
crocketWhy can't I install xubuntu-desktop in ubuntu server installer?08:25
crocketnetboot installer can install xubuntu-desktop.08:25
cfhowlettcrocket, you can but ... most servers don't have a gui.08:26
crocketcfhowlett, I know08:26
crocketcfhowlett, I'm just using ubuntu server iso to preseed a xubuntu desktop machine.08:27
cfhowlettcrocket, nice.08:27
crocket"tasksel tasksel/first multiselect xubuntu-desktop" doesn't really install xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server.08:27
crocketWhy not?08:27
crocketTell em08:27
crocketTell me08:27
cfhowlettcrocket, no experience.  I'd say ask the #ubuntu-server channel.08:28
unlockushello , i just install ubuntu 14.04 alongwith windows 8.1 but have some problems booting, i have to make many manual task to boot on ubuntu, soon as the laprop starts to run i must press esc, after f9 after choose ubuntu and click on it, something to to to fix that to be more easy to boot?08:28
somsip!uefi | unlockus (maybe something here will help)08:30
ubottuunlockus (maybe something here will help): UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI08:30
unlockusi installed and is working08:30
unlockusbut to many task to to do boot on it08:31
somsipunlockus: UEFI can be a problem with windows 8.* There are some links on the URL above that might help you08:31
unlockussomsip thanks a lot08:32
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Dreamanhttp://store.picbg.net/pubpic/66/14/33e9ab0521b76614.png08:39
Dreaman:)08:39
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Dreamanhttp://store.picbg.net/pubpic/D6/82/72db3be987c9d682.png08:45
servetHi is this the official help channel I am using my live usb now08:47
lesshastewhen i try to use xsane it crashes with xsane crashed with SIGFPE08:47
cfhowlettservet, yes ask your ubuntu questions08:47
lesshastehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsane/+bug/204621 seems to be a very old bug08:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 204621 in xsane (Ubuntu) "xsane crashed with SIGFPE" [Medium,Confirmed]08:47
lesshastecan anyone scan in ubuntu??08:47
Ben64Dreaman: stop doing that, its not on topic08:47
DreamanBen64 ok08:48
saGGiohi08:51
servetI was testing my suspend mode. I get ata1 acpi set timing error and full load on one core. sb on a forum says rmmod sr_mod works but here when I try it I see that it says ERROR module sr_mod is builtin. ANything I can do08:51
sacarlsonservet: I should assume you have a swap partition a bit bigger than your rams size08:52
servetsacarison at the moment I am using a live usb but I had the same error when I had a full installltion08:53
servetwith a big swap08:54
lesshastehow can I report a crash with the scanning software?08:54
somsip!bug | lesshaste08:54
ubottulesshaste: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.08:54
lesshastesomsip, thanks but I don't see how to use apport-bug for this. It segfaults and I get the automatic08:55
sacarlsonservet: I would think suspend or hybernate would never work with a live cd or an install without a proper sized swap. otherwise it has no place to put the ram image to bring back up when suspend mode exits08:55
lesshastemessage08:55
lesshasteoh ok08:55
lesshasteI was hoping to report details of the segfault too08:56
lesshastehow do I see what apport produces?? I have no "examine locally"option08:56
servetsacarlson: I see. then .I will test it with a proper instalation and see what happens. have 3 gb of ram sinse you said more than your memory I will allocate 6 gigs. You think that would solve the issue08:58
jke63#ubuntu it08:59
jke63come posso disabiliatere wlan008:59
sacarlsonservet: seems I'm not totaly correct as it seems to be at least 3 different suspend modes, not sure what is active at what signal.  some can suspend and still hold contents in ram, others save to swap https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Suspend_and_hibernate08:59
jke63ciao, qualcuno mi puo' aiutare09:00
sacarlsonservet: it is good to have yes at least the ram size as the system will fall back to save to swap if power levels in the battery get too low09:00
jke63#ubuntu -it09:00
mozzarellawhat's the name of the process of the dash?09:01
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sacarlsonmozzarella: I think dash is just the name of a type of script interpreter09:02
sacarlsonmozzarella: many scripts run in dash09:02
mozzarellathe bar09:02
servetsacarlson ok thanks I will try a fresh install then come back :) have a nice day09:03
sacarlsonservet: good luck, I see many people having problems with suspend so it may be buggy09:03
servetsacarlson I have actually had that issue ever since I bought that laptop but I didnt know about this channel09:05
sacarlsonservet: I never got suspend working when I had a laptop back in 2010 and never attempted it since09:06
sacarlsonservet: my guess is that maybe 40% - 50% of some laptops must work with some releases09:07
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servetsacarlson oh that is a bummer.  I have not come across that release yet :)09:08
sacarlsonha ha well when you find it make sure you tell someone about it09:08
servetsacarlson oh I will haha09:10
sm_hello09:10
EsorI installed the new ubuntu and works perfect09:11
sm_I need some help, I have upgraded to ubuntu 14.10 but now I can't access git or svn servers ...09:11
somsipsm_: upgraded from what version?09:11
sacarlsonEsor: wow it's rare anyone comes here to tell us the. normaly come to complain about it not working.  good to know it does work for some09:12
sacarlsonsm_: did you install git09:12
sm_it was not really upgrade I deleted the 14.04 version and installed the new one over it09:12
EsorI've been using ubuntu since 5.10 and have never had problems with anything particular09:13
sm_I am getting Can't connect to host 'dspnet.fr': Network is unreachable09:13
sm_which worked before09:13
sm_and with git I am getting git.redump.net[0: 37.221.195.49]: errno=Connection timed out09:13
sm_git.redump.net[1: 2a03:4000:2:1f3::1]: errno=Network is unreachable09:13
sacarlsonsm_: try it on github and see if it works,  maybe it's the server side09:13
somsipsm_: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/dspnet.fr http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/redump.net09:13
after_rGOD DAMN I HATE MACBOOKS09:14
somsipsm_: looks like you have networks issues.09:14
somsipafter_r: and that's quite enough of that, thank you09:14
sm_but I didn't have problems before and the browser and xchat and downloading stuff is all fine09:15
somsipsm_: you can acces those two sites through other means okay?09:15
sacarlsonsomsip: oh that's cool I bookmarked that, good tool to see if a site is down09:15
sm_somsip, yes with http it is fine09:16
madsjhi09:16
madsjI'm trying frantically to remove the alt-tab shortcut key, since it overlaps with emacs09:17
sacarlsonsomsip: but does that site only look at port 80?  as I think git uses a different port09:17
madsjI now got Ctrl-Tab to do the same thing, but Alt-Tab is still functioning09:17
madsjcompiz seems useless for this purpose :-(09:17
Bleakwisewhat group should /usr/bin belong to?09:17
Bleakwiseroot? i changed it on accident and want to change back09:17
somsipsacarlson: depends ont he transport being used. You need a way to make sure it is not a networking issue. You could look at git/svn as being the problem, but you might be missing something09:18
sacarlsonBleakwise: I think normaly root09:18
Bleakwisekk, thought so just wanted to be sure09:18
somsipBleakwise: root:root 75509:18
Bleakwisewhat i want to do is change /opt/eclipse to have the same permissions as /usr/bin09:18
Bleakwisejust chown root and chmod 755?09:19
somsipBleakwise: don't change the permissions then.09:19
geirhasudo chmod --reference /usr/bin /opt/eclipse09:19
somsipBleakwise: ...recursively without being careful09:20
Bleakwiseit appears all files in /usr/bin/ have the same permissions? if so i can just change to match those09:22
somsipBleakwise: if you want it to be really messy, yes. But there are executables in /opt/eclipse that need to be +x, and data files that just need to be +r. If you 755 the lot recursively, it's not ideal. If you can live with 'not ideal' then it may not harm anything, but check it first. Make a backup of /opt/eclipse in case you have to revert for example09:25
Bleakwiseyeah, i have a tgz backup of /opt/eclipse, i just want to use /opt/eclipse of kepler instead of package managed version 3.809:26
madsjhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=175349 <- solves my problem :-) I've struggled a lot with this issue09:26
madsjI accidently removed the applications menu in Gnome; which package do I need to install to get it back?09:26
somsipBleakwise: on a sinle-user system, I found untarring it as user:user has worked fine.09:27
sacarlsonmadsj: I'm not sure about the main menu but with right click I've added many things09:27
Bleakwisetbh, i suppose what i'll do is keep things original, and just change the owning group to users09:28
sm_somsip I have managed to download from the git repository but had to remove git:// and use http:// instead . something must be blocking the git protocol... hmmm09:31
somsipsm_: from where did you download this?09:31
sm_somsip, git://git.redump.net/mame09:33
somsipsm_: maybe check your permissions on your ssh keys, if git:// is key-based and http:// is RO09:34
david38400The bluetooth icon has a lock on it. How can I unlock it?09:35
Novice201yHello. I know that there is 14.10 with Unity 8 and Mir. Where can I download it?09:37
sm_somsip, how do I check those ssh keys, I am new to this kind of thing :)09:38
somsipNovice201y: How do you know that? It's looks wrong to me09:38
Novice201yNovice201y: On main polish website about end-user IT it's said.09:38
somsipsm_: ls -la ~/.ssh and make sure all the keys are 600 (rw-------)09:38
cryptohexhey where is ubuntu developer channel09:39
david38400does anybody know why my bluetooth icon has a lock appearing on the side of it? Please any help?09:39
somsipcryptohex: #ubuntu-devel09:39
sm_somsip, I get no such file or directory09:39
Novice201ysomsip: "Nowe wydanie będzie można pobrać w dwóch wersjach. Pierwsza z nich będzie wykorzystywała Unity w wersji 7.3.1, czyli niewiele zmieniona od czasów Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. Druga zaś wprowadza długo oczekiwany Mir oraz Unity 8. "09:40
cryptohexthx i invite all of you to develop AstaraOS at #AstaraOS-devel09:40
cryptohexhttp://cryptohex.us.to/?page_id=28709:40
cryptohexsource code is there09:40
somsipcryptohex: no spam here thank you09:40
cryptohexapt converter is there09:40
cryptohexfrom yum09:40
somsipcryptohex: enough09:40
PCatineancan anyone tell me why installing python-flask works but when opening up the interpeter it says there is no such module09:40
cryptohexyou can make AstaraOS debian you'rself09:40
PCatineananyone?09:41
somsipNovice201y: I'm surprised. I didn't know mir and unity8 were in the new version. Just get it from ubuntu.com/downloads then09:41
david38400my bluetooth isnt working on ubuntu 14.04 any help09:42
sm_somsip, I get no such file or directory09:42
sm_do I have to generate those ssh keys?09:43
somsipsm_: did you used to use key-based logins for git and svn? If not, then it's probably not that. I just know some site give http:// access to all users, and git:// access only to users who lodge keys09:43
sm_no I didn't use them, it was straightforward09:44
somsipsm_: k - not that then09:44
Seditiohey guys, just wondering if anyone has installed any distro on an MSI GT7009:47
Seditioproblem being it has intel hd graphics + nvidia geforce09:47
sacarlsonsm_: did you try your git on github.com yet?  or maybe some proxy setting?09:47
Seditioubuntu iso does this http://i.imgur.com/hKuHVSi.jpg and just continues to bootscreen infinately09:47
somsip!bumblebee | Seditio (this may be of relevance - I have no idea really)09:48
ubottuSeditio (this may be of relevance - I have no idea really): The Bumblebee Project aims to support NVIDIA Optimus technology under Linux. The Bumblebee website can be found at http://bumblebee-project.org/09:48
Seditiosomsip, I've had a look but as I said, that's the iso, I can't even install the OS itself..09:48
sm_no I haven't sacarlson, I don't know much about these things I was just following a tutorial on how to compile mess and it used to work fine on 14.04 32 bits but now on 14.10 64 bit I just can't access the svn or git protocols09:48
sacarlsonsm_: I'm runing git on 14.04 64bit ok09:50
MMukherjeeHello, I've a problem: I never installed Nginx but it got automatically installed (I dk how...) and I removed it using "sudo apt-get remove nginx" but it always gets automatically started when I boot09:50
somsipsm_: you were on 32 bit and are now on 64? Did you reinstall?09:50
MMukherjeeI want to fully remove it.09:50
MMukherjeeIt still starts after I did "sudo apt-g......"09:50
sacarlsonsm_: oh you can go back and see that it still works on 14.04 32bit today?09:50
fortynineis there a reason why i get 1 and 1/2 hour less battery time on ubuntu than windows?09:52
sacarlsonfortynine: ubuntu is so much better that you spend more time on it working than window?   just kiding09:53
fortynineits the opposite09:53
sm_scarlson, I have deleted that version so I can't check if it would work still09:53
GreylocksMMukherjee: try "sudo apt-get purge <package name>" if you are sure you want to remove it.09:53
sacarlsonfortynine: maybe more advanced power managment, run fans slower.....09:53
sm_thank you for your help guys09:53
MMukherjeeGreylocks: It says nginx isn't installed.09:54
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sacarlsonfortynine: oh and the eye candy on this newer ubuntu I must think takes more power.  maybe lubuntu would take less power also09:55
ronaldsmazitisubuntu is acting09:56
ronaldsmazitisreally bad09:56
ronaldsmazitischrome has new bug with one page coming with blank window09:56
ronaldsmazitissoon linux will be full of bugs, viruses and other stuff cause I see there is interest in it09:57
Greylocksfortynine: It is a known issue. You can try TLP read about it here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP09:57
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fortynineeh, that looks like a headache09:59
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GreylocksMMukherjee: you can try "apt-get clean" or "apt-get autoremove" perhaps one of those may help09:59
MMukherjeeAh, worked.10:00
MMukherjeeSudo apt-get clean worked.10:00
MMukherjeeCheers10:00
Greylocks|o/ yea!10:00
fortyninewoohoo ya10:02
blackthorhello, trying to mount a FAT16 usb stick on ubuntu, getting the error that filesystem is unknown ; yet it seems to work on a windows machine; any hints? thanks10:05
sacarlsonblackthor: sometimes if you add the type in the mount it might work10:05
blackthoryeah, i know, already tried that, no succes10:05
sacarlsonblackthor: then maybe fsck to check fix it, but better to do that in windows10:06
blackthorokay thanks alot! cya10:07
MickeyDroidHello10:08
MickeyDroidLast time i raised a problem i had10:09
MickeyDroidabout my ubuntu partition left with 1gb free space10:09
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MickeyDroidand wanting to move the OS into another partition that i am going to create10:09
MickeyDroidToday i saw a feature in ubuntu called Backup10:10
MickeyDroidI tried backing up my / to an external drive with 60gb of free space with the intentions of restoring it later10:11
jazzhii frnds10:11
david38400I cant get my bluetooth to turn on can anyone help please. I am using Ubuntu 14.0410:11
MickeyDroidbut the backup program keeps giving me this error10:11
jazzgot some prblm with umask10:11
MickeyDroid"Backup location is too small, Try using one with more space."10:11
jazzcan anyone please tell me how to assign umask for group of users10:11
jazzor to specfic group10:12
MickeyDroidHow do i fix this??10:12
sacarlsonMickeyDroid: it seems self explanitory, get a bigger backup disk10:12
david38400Any help with bluetooth not working. I have everything installed OK10:12
MickeyDroidSacarlson: But my ubuntu partition is only 16gb10:13
jazzcan anyone please tell me how to assign umask for group of users10:13
MickeyDroidso why cant it fit on a 60gb drive??10:13
sacarlsonMickeyDroid: because a 60gb drive can have many partition some maybe not that big10:13
david38400nobody to help with bluetooth problem please?10:14
MickeyDroidSacarlson: The size of the drive isnt 60gb, its 320gb but it has 60gb free space on it10:14
MickeyDroidand its not partitioned10:14
MickeyDroid@david38400: try turning on bluetooth from settings=>Bluetooth10:15
sacarlsonMickeyDroid: then tha'ts  the answer you can't save anything on a none formated unused partition10:15
MickeyDroidSacarlson: The drive is formatted and i even have stuff on it10:16
MickeyDroidi am able to copy and write stuff onto it10:16
MickeyDroidI have movies,vid etc.. on it10:16
MickeyDroiddavid38400: did u find the bluetooth setting??10:17
david38400MickeyDroid, Yesterday the bluetooth icon had a lock on it so I took it off the desktop10:17
sacarlsonMickeyDroid: I'm guessing you confusing the other working partitions with the now unused unformated one.10:17
fortynineanyone know where the change the icon theme in xubuntu?10:18
david38400I have reinstalled bluetooth, but it isnt working10:18
david38400MickeyDroid, I reinstalled the bluetooth but cant get it to respond dont know why10:18
david38400any ideas10:18
MickeyDroidSacarlson: I am not, its an xternal hard disk, which isnt partitioned or divided into many partitions10:19
MickeyDroiddavid38400: does your device have a hardware bluetooth switch??10:19
david38400MickeyDroid, To be honest I don't know, how could I check10:19
MickeyDroidsacarlson: It just one partition just like pendrives have but NTFS10:20
sacarlsonMickeyDroid: oh then the other posibility is that the partition type doesn't support as large as 300gb, like fat32 or .. I guess instead of guessing we should see some pastebin details of how you have it partitioned and formateed10:20
MickeyDroiddavid: what device do u have??10:21
david38400MickeyDroid, I have blueman installed is that what you mean?10:21
MickeyDroidNope@David10:21
MickeyDroidHold on sacarlson10:21
david38400MickeyDroid, what does that mean?10:22
david38400I am using blueman10:22
sacarlsonMickeyDroid: oh and ntfs may not be a good format to store your linux information as it doesn't store privs and ownership the same way10:22
MickeyDroidThen i guesss thats the reason why10:22
MickeyDroid@sacarlson10:22
MickeyDroidDavid: are u running ubuntu on a laptop or desktop10:22
MickeyDroidif its a laptop, what model?10:23
MickeyDroidif its desktop what bluetooth adabpter do u use?10:23
MickeyDroidSacarlson: I now get it10:23
MMukherjeehttp://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/10:24
MickeyDroidits because am storing the backup onto an NTFS partition10:24
MMukherjeeWhen I try to open my server with a domain10:24
MMukherjeehttp://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/ , I try to open my server through a domain, it shows nginx, but when I try to connect using my router's DHCP IP, it shows my Drupal!10:24
MMukherjeeWhY?10:24
MMukherjeeI WANT TO REMOVE Nginx10:25
david38400MickeyDroid, No I am not using a laptop, its desktop10:25
MickeyDroidOkay10:25
MickeyDroiddavid: Do what bluetooth adapter do u have??10:26
david38400MickeyDroid, Its a dongle, but doesnt have a brand10:27
david38400a usb one10:27
MickeyDroidOkay davd10:27
MickeyDroidLets try something10:27
MickeyDroidOpen ur terminal10:27
MickeyDroidand type sudo -s10:27
MickeyDroidafter entering your password,10:28
david38400MickeyDroid, no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory10:28
Novice201ysomsip: There are two version of 14.1010:28
david38400MickeyDroid, does that mean anything?10:28
MickeyDroidtype "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" without quotes10:28
Novice201ysomsip: with U7 and U8.10:28
MickeyDroidwhen you are done, let me know10:29
david38400MickeyDroid, Uff up come so much text shall I pastebin10:29
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sacarlsonMMukherjee: is it a recient dns change maybe?  at this point I see nginx from here10:30
MMukherjeeI know.10:30
MMukherjeeBut I connect 192.168.0.2 (Which is the same server) it shows my Drupal10:31
lixgood day. how come do-release-upgrade (-p) in command line doesnt work for upgrading to 14.10?10:31
MickeyDroidDavid: Have u done it?10:31
MickeyDroidlet me recap10:31
MickeyDroidand type sudo -s10:31
MickeyDroidafter entering your password,10:31
MMukherjeehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220232310:32
david38400MickeyDroid, yes I did that and a lot of text trying to pastebin. But not given a reference so you can check??10:32
MMukherjeeFollowed this10:32
MickeyDroid type "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" without quotes10:32
sacarlsonMMukherjee: try dig http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/  to verify that you dns returns what you would expect10:32
MickeyDroidwait10:32
MickeyDroidhold on with pastebin10:32
MickeyDroidthe text in terminal should be updating10:32
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MMukherjeeYea, it's showing what I want.10:33
MickeyDroidnow unplug the bluetooth dongle and reconnect it10:33
MMukherjeeIt tells me to reboot10:33
MMukherjeeLet me reboot and see10:33
MickeyDroidnow copy what appears in terminal after reconnecting the dongle10:33
MickeyDroidand paste it10:33
MMukherjeehttp://www.2-spyware.com/remove-nginx-virus.html10:34
CYBERHalguien es español?10:34
MMukherjeeWhat it shows is exactly what I got10:34
MMukherjee!es | CYBER10:34
ubottuCYBER: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:34
MMukherjee!es | CYBERH10:34
ubottuCYBERH: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:34
david38400MickeyDroid, Nothing changed in terminal10:34
CYBERHthanks i change now my chanel10:35
sacarlsonMMukherjee: wow that's strange. did you try reboot and have nginx still start?10:35
MMukherjeeI'm rebooting atm10:35
MMukherjeehttp://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/10:35
MMukherjeeRebooted.10:35
MMukherjeeStill the same10:35
MickeyDroidNothing updated when u conected the dongle??10:35
sacarlsonMMukherjee: also is apache2 running?10:35
david38400MickeyDroid, Havent used pastebin for ages, but when I post should it not give me a reference or do you use the title I give it10:35
sacarlsonMMukherjee: maybe try stop apache2 it just might be pointing at the same pages10:36
sacarlsonMMukherjee: also try  sudo netstat -pant  to see what is listening on port 8010:36
david38400MickeyDroid, OK its in pastebin as Mickey Bluetooth will that be OK?10:37
MickeyDroidYea10:37
david38400MickeyDroid, OK wait your further news, thanks a lot.....10:38
MickeyDroidGimme a sec while i check it out10:38
david38400ok10:38
MickeyDroidAm having a lil trouble finding ur log on pastebin@David10:41
MMukherjeesacarlson: Yes, apache2 is also running10:41
david38400MickeyDroid, I just did a normal post without logging in10:41
MMukherjeenone@PowerLinuxServer:~$ sudo stop apache210:41
MMukherjeestop: Unknown job: apache210:41
sacarlsonMMukherjee: and sudo netstat -pant ?10:41
MMukherjeeLet me check10:42
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MickeyDroidOkay..I am kinda new to pastebin but i doubt that would work10:42
MickeyDroidYou can use your facebook/google account to sign up10:42
MMukherjeeI think it's Nginx virus10:43
sacarlsonMMukherjee: what this is linux never happen10:43
MMukherjeeD:10:44
david38400MickeyDroid, Just signing in  now..... give me a minute10:44
MickeyDroidIt isnt anything difficult @DAvid10:44
sacarlsonMMukherjee: I've had some operations like network-manager that were hard to kill10:44
MickeyDroidokay10:44
MMukherjeehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8670055/10:44
MickeyDroidI even created something there, It has the name David IRC Bluetooth10:45
MMukherjeeThis is what netstat gave me10:45
MMukherjeesacarlson: ^10:45
david38400MickeyDroid, All done..... DavidPuerto ... title Mickey Bluetooth.. good luck10:45
NXijhello, I'm having a problem here http://pastebin.com/CbDEJRct10:46
sacarlsonMMukherjee: ok it's apache then that is serving that page. as it's the only one listing10:46
MMukherjeeWhat?10:46
MMukherjeeLet me check Virtualhost config.10:46
vitimitiHi10:46
sacarlsonMMukherjee: unless you are looking at two points that are using 2 differnet dns to point at two diff computers10:46
MickeyDroidOkay david10:47
sacarlsonMMukherjee: to verify you should be able to sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop ; and verify it's no longer serving that page10:47
david38400MickeyDroid, just checking10:48
MickeyDroidseen it10:48
david38400MickeyDroid, cant find anything in my pastebin Did you find mine OK?10:49
MickeyDroidDavid: Your kernel doesnt seem to log anything about ur dongle been connected10:49
MickeyDroidYea i have seen urs@David10:49
sacarlsonMMukherjee: I no longer getting any dns lookup on http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/ so ??10:49
MMukherjeeWhat?!10:50
MickeyDroidDavid: Try changing the USB port in which the dongle is connected to10:50
NXijI'll try again, every time i want to apt-get something i get an error referring to my kernel not being ready for the configurationg, as much as I've read on the web, the common problem for this seems to be lack of space, but I infact have around 20gb of free space http://paste.ubuntu.com/8670128/10:50
sacarlsonMMukherjee: I get no return for A on http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/  for dig http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/10:50
david38400MickeyDroid, OK will have to check this out....... Thanks very much for your help10:51
MMukherjeewhat?!10:51
david38400MickeyDroid, Must go now, be back later....... Bye10:51
MickeyDroidAnd Keep an eye on the Ur terminall10:51
MickeyDroidRyt10:51
sacarlsonMMukherjee: no return also for dig @8.8.8.8 http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/10:52
MMukherjeeWhat...10:52
MMukherjee Looking up powerkiller.no-ip.biz...10:52
MMukherjee Resolved to:10:52
MMukherjee     116.193.134.710:52
sacarlsonMMukherjee: I thought it must have been served when I first started chat with you,  no that number is not in your wan dns10:53
servetHi, quick question: I'm on windows, about to install 14.10. But, already have 3 partitions: 100 mb windows, windows 7 and one for data.  So, since I remember getting an error while trying to create the 5th partition, I cannot have a separate partition for swap. IS there anything that can be done or not possible?10:53
sacarlsonMMukherjee: did I typo something?10:53
MMukherjeeI didn't understand BTW.10:53
MMukherjee116.193.134.710:54
MMukherjeeis my IP10:54
sacarlsonMMukherjee: maybe your local bind9 resolves it but not from wan world internet10:54
MMukherjeeWhat?!10:54
MMukherjeeI connect to 116.193.134.710:54
MMukherjeeI see Nginx10:54
MMukherjeeI connect to 192.168.0.2 I get my Drupal10:54
matterobaaah.. I cannot decide between Xubuntu or Ubuntu!!10:55
sacarlsonMMukherjee: yes well maybe that's in the pages that you apache is serving.  you can take a look at the apache2 configs to see what your pointing at.  but at this time you also have problems with dns10:55
sacarlsonMMukherjee: I would assume those are two different computers then.  or maybe you have squid running that is cache some stuf also10:56
MMukherjeeIt's correctly configured10:57
sacarlsonMMukherjee: so what does dig http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/  return for you then?10:58
MMukherjeeLet me check10:58
MMukherjeeroot@PowerLinuxServer:/etc/apache2/sites-available# dig http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/10:59
MMukherjee; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu <<>> http://powerkiller.no-ip.biz/10:59
MMukherjee;; global options: +cmd10:59
MMukherjee;; Got answer:10:59
MMukherjee;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 4833110:59
MMukherjee;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 110:59
unopasteMMukherjee you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted10:59
servetsacarlson: I know you are busy now, but, for feature reference, I have checked my brother's computer which has 1 gig of memory, suspend works just fine with a live usb.10:59
sacarlsonservet: cool so it's default isn't to save to swap then11:00
MMukherjeehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8670253/11:00
MMukherjeesacarlson: ^11:00
MMukherjeeIt's what DiG shows me11:00
MMukherjeeAnd it should not return what my WAN IP shows me11:00
MMukherjeehttp://116.193.134.7/11:01
MMukherjeeShows me the same]11:01
sacarlsonMMukherjee: what you just sent shows no A return so you can't ping it then can you?11:02
MMukherjeeI can't.11:02
sacarlsonMMukherjee: so you will have to fix that11:02
MMukherjeeroot@PowerLinuxServer:/etc/apache2/sites-available# ping powerkiller.no-ip.biz11:02
MMukherjeePING powerkiller.no-ip.biz (116.193.134.7) 56(84) bytes of data.11:02
MMukherjee64 bytes from 116.193.134.7: icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=4.28 ms11:02
MMukherjee64 bytes from 116.193.134.7: icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=3.18 ms11:02
MMukherjee64 bytes from 116.193.134.7: icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=3.12 ms11:02
MMukherjee64 bytes from 116.193.134.7: icmp_seq=4 ttl=60 time=3.41 ms11:02
unopasteMMukherjee you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted11:03
sacarlsonMMukherjee: oh so maybe it's being resolved in hosts file but not from dns11:03
MMukherjeeI'm removing apache2 and reinstalling it.11:04
MMukherjeeLet me see if that works11:04
brokep__whats the news in Ubuntu 14.10??11:04
sacarlsonMMukherjee: apache2 won't fix your dns problem11:04
MMukherjeeYea, but that should fix my WAN IP problem11:04
sacarlsonMMukherjee: until that's fixed it's pointless to reinstall apache that looks to be running ok11:04
sacarlsonMMukherjee: only thing that can fix you wan ip is your dns sevice that maybe you have setup from some dynamic ip point?11:05
MMukherjeeI stopped my Apache and still my WAN IP is still showing the Nginx page.11:05
sacarlsonMMukherjee: I have no idea what 116.193.134.7 is located.  is that your ip address on wan?  is this on a local computer or on a virtual remote system?11:07
MMukherjeehttp://116.193.132.196/]11:07
MMukherjeehttp://116.193.132.196/*11:07
MMukherjeeIt's on a local IP11:07
MMukherjeeI changed my IP11:07
MMukherjeehttp://116.193.132.196/11:07
MMukherjeenew IP11:07
MMukherjeeNew sh!t.11:07
sacarlsonMMukherjee: oh ok ya it's changed and you didn't update you dynamic ip11:08
MMukherjeeWorks11:08
MMukherjeeAfter purging and reinstalling it.11:08
sacarlsonMMukherjee:  what it works after reinstall of apache2?11:09
MMukherjeeYea.11:09
MMukherjeeCheck the IP11:09
sacarlsonMMukherjee: ya that would have worked without reinstall now that I have the correct address11:09
sacarlsonMMukherjee: but still your name doesn't work11:10
MMukherjeeThat's the problem of my damn DNS provider11:10
sacarlsonMMukherjee: oh and on my browser I still get the old contents of your ng...  because it's getting it from my browser cache11:11
MMukherjeeUse my IP11:12
sacarlsonMMukherjee: yes I did and I get apache2  but the problem you were having was that the contents of your browser cache was diplayed not the new stuf as you dns is still broken11:12
MMukherjee'kk11:12
amarcolinoHi, I have two identical seagate ST350063A hdd, one of them is giving me buffer i/o error on device sda... issues,. However, it seems I can boot to it and work fine only at some point, which I haven't pinpointed the system outputs error and I can't do anything. Is there a temp fix I can use, which might allow me to use the disk for a bit longer until I replace it?11:13
sacarlsonMMukherjee: also you should change the header to make it expire sooner so that old stuf isn't displayed11:13
MMukherjeeOkay.11:13
sacarlsonamarcolino: sounds like a hardware problem.  only thing I can think of is use it for none critical stuf like video's music, stuf you don't really need11:15
sacarlsonamarcolino: you might try it on another sata port or another computer, you might get lucky11:16
lostCan anyone give me an invitation of Inbox?Thanks! E-mail:gsc1215225 gmail11:19
ReptiliaI am using Xubuntu 14.04 (i know this is #Ubuntu, i wrote on #Xubuntu too, if someone can help i will really appreciate it). The problem is, while watching a Youtube video, and changing the video resolution to 720p or higher (on Google Chrome), the PC completely freezes, and i have to restart it. However, this won't happen on Mozilla Firefox. What could the reason for this be? I've installed the latest Flash Player. Thanks in advance.11:21
amarcolinosacarlson, I'm not tyring to recover the data, I had decided to scrape it a while back, just want to make use of the disk a bit longer until I can replace both, since I am using LVM, was hoping to twy badblocks with fsck but by the time I come back my screen has error outputs11:22
sacarlsonReptilia: I haven't had that much trouble with chromium but the app does lock up on me at times, I"ve just moved to firefox that is working fine for me now.  you could try chrome instead of chromium, maybe that's better11:24
Reptiliasacarlson:I am using Chrome now, i will try with Chromium now, to see if it will be the same11:26
sacarlsonamarcolino: as long as it's in a location that it can be umounted without causing problems on your system. you might squeze some life out of it.  as you only normaly need to watch a video 1 or 2 times11:26
sacarlsonReptilia: oh well it sound like they might have about the same problem then.  it seems to only happen on cirtain sites for me.  some sites it works fine.  so it seems to be content sensitive11:27
Reptiliasacarlson:Who knows..11:29
sacarlsonwhere is a good irc to go to find people to test some of my new ubuntu software packages?11:31
brentyour backdoor packages?11:32
sacarlsonbrent: yes that and my mini-isp11:32
brentis it all on git11:33
muh2000hi all11:33
sacarlsonbrent: yes I released it all, but backdoor has only been tested on a local to local network11:33
muh2000i have a strange error: randomly the networkdev gets disabled and immediatley enabled again.11:34
InspectorCluseaumuh2000, SAME HERE ... HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT YET11:35
muh2000InspectorCluseau: i am glad that i am not the only one :)11:36
sacarlsonmuh2000: I thought someone said they disabled local bind9 and that fixed it.  but that wasn't you guys11:36
InspectorCluseaumuh2000, I have a usb wireless I plug in when that happens11:36
muh2000i think i dont have a bind9 installed11:36
muh2000InspectorCluseau: i have one as well. though not for the internet....11:36
JenniferB2Regarding Nautulis: Is there a way to show directories in expandable lists?11:38
sacarlsonJenniferB2: that might be cool, oh just the diretories.  maybe you can try disk analizer that mostly shows how much space in a manner as that11:40
odinhoI installed systemd in Ubuntu 14.10, but now PulseAudio is not working anymore. It seems as if gnome-session in Ubuntu starts its own small Upstart(!) process which in turn starts PulseAudio. So I guess there's some incompatibilities there.11:40
JenniferB2sacarlson, i am thinking for navigating directories, similar to how an editor would show it11:41
sacarlsonodinho: i thought ubuntu came with systemd already installed and active11:41
sacarlsonJenniferB2: ya I think I saw something like that long ago in solaris11:41
sacarlsonJenniferB2: back then it even went bettween computers as all the computers were like one big file structure11:42
hazrpghey guys, I want to know why all the tutorials online seem to encourage using a PPA to install MATE (Desktop Environment) when it is in the standard repo, is there any issues using the standard repo version of MATE? I'm using the normal ubuntu 14.04.1 (amd64)11:45
odinhosacarlson: No, not as init daemon, it was supposed to work quite well now.  But I guess it's not there yet.  I'll try debugging Pulse a bit.11:45
usr13hazrpg: Have you tried xfce?11:46
sacarlsonJenniferB2: something like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Baobab  would be cool but one that would go down to the file level to view and analize like nuatilus wold be cool.  want to write one?11:47
hazrpgusr13: I did try xfce, but I didn't really like it - I think I'm too use to using GNOME over the years.11:47
usr13hazrpg: What didn't you like about it?11:48
sacarlsonhazrpg: we still have mate the branch of gnome that is much the same and better11:49
usr13!gnome-shell | hazrpg11:49
awallinis anyone else getting "this version of Chrome is no longer supported" on 14.04LTS?11:49
usr13!info gnome-shell | hazrpg11:49
ubottuhazrpg: gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.12.2-1ubuntu7 (utopic), package size 598 kB, installed size 4766 kB11:49
usr13!gnome | hazrpg11:49
ubottuhazrpg: GNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome11:49
odinhosacarlson: Oh, okay. Well, after the reboot PulseAudio had set UPNP to be the default playout. So simply changing back to hardware solved the problem.11:50
odinhosacarlson: However, it stopped working after the installation, where I did most debugging. So the reboot fixed it. (I expect changing such a low level component might at least need a new login to work again)11:50
sacarlsonhazrpg: when I looked at upgrading from ubuntu to mate it seems it required a few steps more than just the install of the mate package.  maybe the ppa has integrated that?11:50
usr13!ubuntu-gnome | hazrpg11:51
ubottuhazrpg: Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage11:51
hazrpgusr13: I don't know, I think its just because the workflow seemed different. I've been using Unity since around natty.11:55
sacarlsonhazrpg: I tried it for like 3 months and found it difficult to port some of my software to run on it.  it was easier for me to change to mate than to rewrite my software so.....11:56
hazrpgsacarlson: ah, so you can just install and use. Interesting.11:56
hazrpgsacarlson: seems like a fair argument11:57
sacarlsonhazrpg: I use it with mint that has it already integrated with also some other codecs and things I like preinstalled11:57
sacarlsonsome software I succeded to port lost some functionality11:58
hillaryHi all, i have a problem with screen freezing in my ubuntu 14.0411:59
usr13hillary: memtest11:59
hillaryhow do i go about12:01
usr13hillary: Hold Esc when booting and you should get a grub menu and one of the options should say memtest, choose it and go drink coffee or beer.12:01
usr13or sleep12:02
sacarlsonhillary: also what app are you running when it happens.  is it random in any app?12:02
hillaryok thanks12:02
hillaryits random12:03
hillarybut mostly while on the internet12:03
sacarlsonok ya then could be a mem problem or hardware of somekind12:03
usr13hillary: fully updated?12:04
usr13hillary: Can you ssh in from another PC after the lock-up?12:04
usr13hillary: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:05
hillaryyes it is fully updated12:05
cryptohex:)12:06
sacarlsonusr13: hillary also there is this key sequence that is suposed to reset a system, I don't recall what the sequence is12:06
usr13hillary: Most complete lockups are due to hardware problems, mostly bad RAM.12:06
hillaryusr13: how do ssh work?12:06
usr13hillary: ssh hillary@192.168.1.29  (where 192.168 1.29 is the actual IP address of the system in question, and where hillary is it's actual user).12:07
sacarlsonif the keysequence reboots the system then I guess it's not fully frozen12:07
hazrpgsacarlson: ouch, is that because the different DE didn't give as much functionality?12:07
mrvadonhello everyone12:08
sacarlsonhazrpg: it's mostly that I basicly suck as a programer and couldn't figure it out12:08
hillaryusr13 ok thank you12:08
sacarlsonhazrpg: what you can't figure out you just remove12:08
usr13hillary: You probably need to first install openssh-server12:08
usr13hillary: sudo apt-get install openssh-server12:09
hazrpgsacarlson: I tend to comment out until I can figure it out ^_^12:09
hillaryopenssh-server is for?12:09
usr13!info openssh-server | hillary12:10
ubottuhillary: openssh-server (source: openssh): secure shell (SSH) server, for secure access from remote machines. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.6p1-8 (utopic), package size 356 kB, installed size 1099 kB12:10
sacarlsonhazrpg: it seem I note some missing feature in nautilus after the move from gnome also.  we still have more functionality with caja file manager than nautilus now12:10
RastartHello. what is .gvfs in my home? what does it do? why I can't get access to it?12:10
hazrpgsacarlson: I blame the rework of GNOME for that. I really do want to like gnome-shell, but it always feels like something is missing12:11
dabukalamRastart: I think that has something to with the network drives you're connected to.12:12
sacarlsonRastart: is that maybe an encrypted directory>12:12
sacarlson?12:12
k1lRastart: gvfs is the mount service from gnome. you dont need to care about that12:12
servetHi scarlson, are you ready to hear the news?12:12
sacarlsonservet: I'm always ready12:12
RastartOh ok thank you. Have a nice day.12:12
hazrpgdabukalam, sacarlson,  Rastart: I thought .gvfs was something to do with gnome virtual file system12:13
hazrpgfor remote server needs (e.g. ftp, sftp, etc...)12:13
servetSo, I've just finished the install process, I have over 8 gigs of ram. But, still getting the same error. What can we do now :)12:13
dabukalamhazrpg: yeah it's where my network drives get mounted12:13
Rastartoh is for remote server needs...12:14
servet8 gigs of swap**12:14
sacarlsonhazrpg: I typicaly make encrypted directorys that start with . and end in fs.  using cryptkeeper.  but that's just me12:14
Rastarthow can I see how it exactly work?12:14
hazrpgsacarlson: that makes sense12:14
RastartI can't get access to it.12:14
hazrpgRastart: More info seems to be available on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS12:14
andlabsso after updating last night GTK+ programs are no longer obeying fontconfig rules. How do I fix that? Qt/KDE programs are still obeying fontconfig rules. Thans.12:15
hazrpgRastart: also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GnomeVFS12:15
sacarlsonservet: you must think we have photografic memories.  what error?12:15
hazrpgRastart: have a look at the external links at the bottom of both those articles, it might point you in the right direction.12:16
Esorhi12:16
Esordo you know how to run __GL_ExtensionStringVersion=17700 with primusrun or optirun?12:16
hazrpgRastart: hope those help12:16
usr13!info light-themes | hazrpg12:17
ubottuhazrpg: light-themes (source: ubuntu-themes): Light Themes (Ambiance and Radiance). In component main, is optional. Version 14.04+14.10.20141015-0ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 154 kB, installed size 1377 kB12:17
hazrpgusr13: I already use Ambiance12:17
sacarlsonservet: oh I had to roll back over 3 hours to see, so it's not swap that will fix the hybernate mode12:17
usr13hazrpg: Oh.  Ok.12:17
RastartOk but why should something like that be inaccessible? if it's for remote server needs?12:18
Rastarta user would need to have complete access on those functions.12:18
Rastartno?12:18
hazrpgRastart: its accessible to the application using it, it might just be that its locked - you don't really want to be interupting a network connection12:19
ReptiliaHow do i determine which package do i need, for my Nvidia graphics card, from the list of 17 available packages ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia  ?12:19
k1lRastart: no12:19
servetsacarlson: ok sorry :) the summary is after resume from suspend, things work fine but ksoftrqd puts 100 percent load on one core. I also get two errors: 1) ata1: acpi set timing mode failed 2) snd_hda_intel 000:00:0f: CORB reset timeout#1 CORBRP=012:19
usr13Reptilia: nvidia.com should tell you.12:19
k1lRastart: you dont need to look into that folder. its a working folder for the gvfs service.12:19
hazrpgRastart: Check the file permissions, see who owns it12:20
usr13Reptilia: lspci |grep VGA12:20
hazrpgRastart: you should be able to access it via sudo if you really need to12:20
k1lRastart: is there a reason you want to look into it?12:20
sacarlsonservet: cool so your half way there.  just have to figure out how to reset those systems after a suspend state change12:21
admin1hi12:21
sacarlsonservet: maybe the only permanent error is the 100% load on one core?  but that probly coming from sound device?12:23
usr13 Reptilia On nvidia.com, each driver module you go to will show a list of chip-sets it is good for.12:23
sacarlsonservet: to fully reset the devices maybe you could unload and reload the kernel modules that drive those devices12:24
BluesKajHiyas all12:24
servetsacarlson: I don't know, but one person's forum points out to dvd. he says when he uses rmmod sr_mod things work fine, but it disables the dvd drive. I have also tried the code. But it says "~$ rmmod sr_mod rmmod: ERROR: Module sr_mod is builtin."12:25
sacarlsonservet: ya that's what I thought rmmod is what used to unload a module, so you just find the devices that cause the same as him and do the same rmmod and then modprobe12:26
sacarlsonservet: your problem device may not be the same as his but the corection method should be the same12:27
usr13Reptilia: Just so you know;  If you install Nvidia module for your video card manually, most any kernel upgrades that come along will more-than-likely not use the module and you'll need to re-install it.  Not a big deal, not hard to do, because the installer is still there on your machine, but just so you know.12:28
hdtune2khi12:28
servetsacarlson: his laptop is also pretty much the same. mine is asus f5sr his is f5sl. So, it could be the thing causing the issue..12:28
Reptiliausr13:thanks12:28
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sacarlsonservet: so if you can't isolate what causes the 100% load you could just randomly try rmmod none critical devices until it went away12:29
sacarlsonservet: yes I see the ata1 also in the list so it could be the same so try it12:29
servetsacarlson: I did try :) but it says ~$ rmmod sr_mod rmmod: ERROR: Module sr_mod is builtin.12:30
sacarlsonservet: ok then try the modules that aren't first, if that fails then I guess you will have to make a custom kernel12:31
sacarlsonservet: or find the method to fully restart a built in module, that I have never done12:32
sacarlsonservet: you can look at lsmod to see what modules are presently installed and runing12:33
kafranHello. Can someone help me with ubuntu installation on my machine?12:35
sacarlsonkafran: stick the usb flash drive with the ubuntu image and turn on your system and folow the instructions on the screen.  that simple12:36
servetsacarlson: I see a pretty long list here including snd hda intel which was in one of the two error messages. sr_mod doesn't seem to be there.12:38
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sacarlsonservet: ya it won't be there as these are just the modules that can be removed and are optional at run time12:39
Guest14800hi. I have just installed ubuntu 14.10 and I have problem reading an usb key without partition with a raw fat16 filesystem. the key is not automounted. is there any missing package ? what's wrong ?12:40
sacarlsonservet: might start with snd module as that will take all those linked to it down also12:40
ubuntu-kylinexit12:41
usr13Guest14800: What filesystem?12:41
Guest14800I mean without a partition table12:41
servetok, do I need to restart or sth for the changes to activate. or just use the rmmod comand and try to suspend12:41
Guest14800usr13: it has only a fat16 filesystem on it12:41
usr13Guest14800: sudo fdisk /dev/sd?    #What does that say about it?12:42
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usr13Guest14800: (replace ? with the actual character that represents the drive)12:42
usr13Guest14800: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd?    #What does that say about it?12:43
kafransacarlson: Its not that so simple. Ubuntu has one of the worst installer I have ever seen =/; Well, here is the problem: I create an "efi" partition, a "boot" partition and a "encrypted lvm" for /home (root /) and swap. I don't think the installer knows what to do, It doesn't let me mount the /boot/efi =/12:43
sacarlsonservet: just rmmod at any time no need to restart until you brake something you need then you will have to reboot of reset12:43
easlilynanMy computer runs kali Linux,and I use the easy-creds to creat route AP .yeah my iPhone can search my rogue AP ,but when I connect to it . It display unable to join the network .can anyone help me?12:43
sacarlsonkafran: did you do this on a fresh install or are you going to link all these partitons for a former version of install?12:44
kafransacarlson: When the installations ends It creates two entries on my uefi boot list, and at the boot it doesn't ask me for the Decrypt password and this is bricking the system12:45
kafransacarlson: fresh install12:45
kafransacarlson: I'm create these partition on a new GPT12:45
sacarlsonkafran: well good then take out that encryption stuf your having problems with and just use cryptkeeper after install to do that for you or create a new user later with encrypted /home12:46
sacarlsonkafran: keep at least one sudo user not encrypted12:46
easlilynansacarlson: hi . I have a question about airbase-ng command12:46
servetsacarlson: there is no module called only snd. so started with this ~$ rmmod snd_hda_intel rmmod: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use12:47
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easlilynanMy computer runs kali Linux,and I use the easy-creds to creat route AP .yeah my iPhone can search my rogue AP ,but when I connect to it . It display unable to join the network .can anyone help me?12:48
bekks!kali | easlilynan12:49
ubottueaslilynan: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)12:49
easlilynan!kali12:50
ubottuUbuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)12:50
kafransacarlson: I'm installing on a notebook. Encryption is a must have. I do not like the idea of just /home encrypted.12:50
usr13easlilynan: <ubottu> Package airbase-ng does not exist in utopic12:50
kafransacarlson: If I use the ubuntu autoated option it works. But I do not like how ubuntus create the LVM. It just creates the swap and root /12:51
kafranAnd I want root and home separeted12:51
sacarlsonkafran: oh ok you want a fully encrypted system.  then there are documents that cover such installs12:52
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ShardvexzThe ubuntu installer isn't recognizing windows 8.112:53
Shardvexzthe only option it gives me is to erase the entire disk12:53
usr13Shardvexz: Why should it?12:53
sacarlsonkafran: but if your not ready for such installs maybe best to start with /home or individual users with virtualboxes in there encrypted directory that they could use when full encyrption is needed12:53
servetsacarlson: I also get Operation not permitted error for other modules intresting. I guess I cannot disable any od them12:54
ShardvexzI'm asking how I can install ubuntu alongside windows 812:54
usr13Shardvexz: First resize your partitions so that you have free space.12:54
ShardvexzI did that.12:54
ShardvexzI have 120GB of unallocated space12:54
usr13Shardvexz: Then use it.12:54
ShardvexzIt's not recognizing that partition either12:54
bekksShardvexz: unallocated space cant be a partition.12:55
usr13Shardvexz: So first you say that the installer does not recognize Win8, next you say that you have unallocate space,  then you say that it does not recognize "that partition".  Lets start over.12:55
sacarlsonservet: did you do it with sudo?  also I think there is a -f for force but I would look that up in rmmod12:56
ShardvexzI mean it does not recognize the unallocated space :p12:56
usr13Shardvexz: Shardvexz uallocated space or free space refers ton an un-partitioned part of your hard drive.  Ok....?12:57
Shardvexzok12:57
usr13Shardvexz: What partitions does it show you?12:57
usr13Shardvexz: Can you give us an ieda of what you are seeing?12:57
usr13Shardvexz: First, tell us what size is your hard drive(s)12:58
Shardvexz1TB HHD, 120GB SSD12:58
Shardvexzwindows 8 is on the SSD12:58
servetsacarlson: sudo didn't work with snd ... but worked with asus_laptop module. I'll try it now. and probably restart it to be here again12:58
ShardvexzI want to install ubuntu to the HHD12:58
ShardvexzI'm uploading a screenshot of what I see, hold on a sec12:58
usr13Shardvexz: So, how many partitions are on it?12:58
usr13Shardvexz: Good.12:59
ShardvexzThere are 2 partitions13:00
ShardvexzWait, 1 partition13:00
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Shardvexz1 partition about 900 GB, and then about 100GB of unallocated space13:00
Shardvexzhttp://snag.gy/GJiBA.jpg13:00
Shardvexzscreenshot13:00
usr13Shardvexz: I thought you did not see free space ....?13:01
usr13Shardvexz: So what do you want to do from here?13:01
ShardvexzI want to use the unallocated space13:02
Shardvexzbut it's not recognizing anything13:02
usr13So use it.13:02
Shardvexzit just says 10000...MB "unknown"13:02
ZeljkoI need help with this barcode, i need to read it13:03
Zeljkohttp://www.dodaj.rs/f/2C/11r/2vQrLNK4/barkod.jpg13:03
usr13Shardvexz: We are not concerned with sdb1 are we?  (That is not where you want to install Ubuntu, right?)13:03
ShardvexzNo. I want to install to sdb1.13:03
ShardvexzIt *should* recognize the unallocated space I made on it. But its not13:03
kafransacarlson: I already have a install like this. The problem is with ubuntu installer. Its too inflexible =/13:03
usr13Shardvexz: Isn't that where you have Win8?13:04
ShardvexzWin8 is on sda13:04
bekksWas. :)13:04
kafransacarlson: Maybe I'm selecting a wrong option on Device for bootloader installation13:04
ZeljkoAnyone help ?13:04
usr13Shardvexz: What size is the Win8 partition?13:04
sacarlsonkafran: there is nothing that can't be done, you just not used to this envirnment.  also you don't have to have it all done at install time13:05
Servetsacarlson: gave the error and I restarted. chosing another one now13:05
usr13Shardvexz: 1TB?13:05
Shardvexz120gb, which is the entirety of my SSD drive13:05
ShardvexzI'm trying to install ubuntu on a different drive than win813:05
usr13Shardvexz: Ok. Do this:  Ctrl-Alt-F613:05
sacarlsonkafran: later when you figure it out or I provide you the link that shows how easy it is you can automate it13:05
usr13Shardvexz: sudo fdisk -l13:06
usr13Shardvexz: In other words, go to a console terminal13:06
usr13Shardvexz: and look at the output of fdisk -l13:06
sacarlsonServet: did you try the -f option?  I just looked it up and it is indeed force13:06
Shardvexzok, should I pastebin?13:06
usr13Shardvexz: Sure13:06
Servettrying now13:07
TeraJLthe indicator-cpufreq doesn't seem to be working on ubunt 14.10, is there any known fix or something like that?13:07
usr13Shardvexz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit13:08
Servetrmmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:777 kmod_module_remove_module() could not remove 'snd_hda_intel': Resource temporarily unavailable rmmod: ERROR: could not remove module snd_hda_intel: Resource temporarily unavailable13:08
usr13Shardvexz: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Send us URL13:08
sacarlsonkafran: I didn't look to closely at this so it may be too old but it seems it might have some of the things you might need http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2014/01/16/manual-full-disk-encryption-setup-guide-for-ubuntu-13-10-linux-mint-16/13:08
usr13Shardvexz: Actually, you could just stay in the GUI and bring up a terminal and do  sudo fdisk -l13:09
usr13Shardvexz: (I don't know why I told you to go to console mode.)13:10
Servetsacarlson: what does snd or other ones stand for? at least I could try to make sense of them :)13:11
usr13Shardvexz: At any rate, you have two Hard Drives.  Right?  And one of them is a 128G Hard Drive.  Right?  And you want to install Ubuntu on the 128G Hard Drive.  Right?13:11
sacarlsonServet: snd sound13:11
Nadyhi I am trying to install xdman on ubuntu but unable to install ... here is the error ....."nady@nady-Lenovo-G50-45:~$ sudo apt-get install xdman Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package xdman nady@nady-Lenovo-G50-45:~$13:12
sacarlsonServet: it's probly one of the devices that create interupts sound is one in the list you showed me.  ata1  that's a disk drive but I don't see modules in lsmod that I can identify as disk access modules13:12
Nadysomeone help me plz13:14
usr13!info xdman | Nady13:14
ubottuNady: Package xdman does not exist in utopic13:15
sacarlsonNady: take a look in ppa and see if it's still there13:15
DJonesNady: xdman doesn't appear to be an official Ubuntu package in any of the supported releases13:15
Nadyhere is the repo that I added sir .... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:noobslab/apps"13:16
DJones!ppa > Nady13:16
ubottuNady, please see my private message13:16
DJonesNady: PPA's aren't official supported13:16
Servetsacarlson: tough situation I guess...13:17
sacarlsonNady: but they are supported by me http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-xtreme-download-manager-xdman-3-0-1-on-ubuntu-14-0413-1013-0412-1012-0410-04-linux-mint-16151413-pear-os-87-and-elementary-os-0-2/13:17
DJonesNady: There's a good chance you'll need to contact the PPA maintainer with issues, its not something I've heard of, so can't suggest anything13:17
sacarlsonServet: hay your the one that wanted to take a wack at this imposible problem, so don't blame me ha ha13:18
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z0n3r`afkso sorry wasnt paying attention13:20
Servetsacarlson: oh yeah definately :)  suspend mode is so important for me. I cannot leave it open all day or close it everytime I step away13:21
Nadysacarlson ... I saw that page but that page has same instructions which I have already tried13:22
sacarlsonNady: oh then djones was correct13:22
Nadyif Mr. Jones is correct then what can I do to fix it ?13:23
kate_rhi13:23
kate_ris it possible to run shell script commands inline?13:23
kate_rin the console13:23
Shardvexzusr13: sorry for the delay, http://pastebin.com/2z4PYX2M13:24
Shardvexzand thanks in advance if you have any ideas13:24
Shardvexzhttp://pastebin.com/2z4PYX2M <--this is the output of sudo fdisk -l13:24
sacarlsonNady: well the steps to get something to work that you really want is one try ppa, 2) find an alternative application 3) try compile from source from the developers later releases13:25
usr13Shardvexz: Oh, it is exFAT13:25
Servet sacarlson: does any thing on this page make sense to you.  there are only 2 posts  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=93678913:25
peterswinkelsDoes any one know where I can get the VirtualBox (under Windows 7) guest additions for Ubuntu 14.04 64bit13:25
peterswinkels?13:25
Servetsacarlson:  $sudo rmmod -f sr_mod rmmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:777 kmod_module_remove_module() could not remove 'sr_mod': No such file or directory rmmod: ERROR: could not remove module sr_mod: No such file or directory13:26
Nadyokay can you plz suggest me some good downloaders for ubuntu13:26
cfhowlettNady, to download what?13:26
Nadydownloader for files video and music file dowload13:27
sacarlsonServet: the top errors all look to be disk drive errors time outs.  I'm not sure if they auto reset later or not.  as you can get it to work and still access disk I would assume some of them corrected13:27
cfhowlettNady, transmission will download quite nicely13:28
Nadytransmission , how to install ?13:28
usr13Shardvexz: I see now what the problem is.  Yes, Ubuntu does not work with exFAT without a little help.    So if you are sure that /sev/sdb is what you want to use, just choose it and delete what it thinks is a partition.  That would be my recommendation.13:28
cfhowlettNady, software center13:28
sacarlsonNady: transmission is presinstalled13:28
cfhowlettsacarlson, !  or that, yes.13:29
Shardvexzokay13:29
usr13Shardvexz: But I don't know for sure, I've not really had any direct experience with exFAT13:29
Shardvexzin order to do that I need to back up the data on sdb13:29
Nadyok let me check13:29
usr13Shardvexz: Oh yea, for sure.13:29
usr13Shardvexz: So plug in someting now to backup to.13:30
Servetsacarlson: I have tried to remove the hdd and test it with live usb and dvd to eliminate the error. İt didn't work. probaby what I did wasn't so logical since the chips were still there13:30
sacarlsonNady: transmission works very well and there are many more that also work depending on what type of torrents you want and when you want them like auto downloaded tv shows.....13:30
ShardvexzOkay. I need to reboot. BRB13:30
NadyI want for normal files as well not for only torrent13:31
peterswinkelsI have downloaded and installed "Guest Additions" for Ubuntu (in VirtualBox under Windows 7) but nothing appears to have changed. How do I start these additions?13:35
Nadywhats is good downloader for normal files for not for torrent13:35
usr13peterswinkels: So Ubuntu is guest and Win7 is host?13:37
cfhowlettNady, wget command.  open a terminal.  go to the place you want to save in.  copy and paste the browser location of your media. for example:  wget http://youtube.com/watch?v=YE7VzlLtp-413:37
peterswinkelsusr13, that is correct.13:37
NadyI want downloader like Xdman13:38
usr13peterswinkels: If so, "Guest Additions" will be installed on Win713:38
usr13peterswinkels: (not on Ubuntu)13:38
peterswinkelsUsr13, So, I need to download Guest Additions for Windows?13:38
usr13peterswinkels: Yes13:38
peterswinkelsok13:38
sacarlsonServet: this looks to be the same problem they had when I was having it back in 2010 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=8966013:39
usr13peterswinkels: So you have a problem with suspend?13:41
sacarlsonServet: and one guy in that group had a perfect script fix if you can isolate the module or recompile the kernel to expose sr_mod again13:41
ActionParsnipPretty quiet considering the new release.....13:41
peterswinkelsusr13, what do you mean?13:41
usr13peterswinkels: Sorry, wrong nic13:41
peterswinkelsok13:41
Lucaxcould anyone help me with my first pip installation? just to answer when I get errors and so on?13:41
usr13Servet: Are you the one with the suspend problem?13:43
Servetyes13:43
ServetI'M the one :) usr1313:43
ActionParsnipLucax: http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2010/02/how-install-pip-ubuntu/13:43
usr13Servet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/453372/suspend-is-not-working-after-updating-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-13-1013:44
usr13Servet: How much RAM do you have?13:44
Nadyplz suggest a good file downloader that can be an alternative of xdman13:45
usr13Nady: wget13:45
Nadyok13:45
Nadyusr13 do I need to add any repository for wget13:46
cfhowlettNady, search the software center for "downloader"13:46
usr13Nady: No13:46
Nadyso just sudo apt-get install wget should work13:47
usr13Nady: More-than-likely already installed13:47
Servetsacarlson: what does that script do? removes the module before bootup? and if it work I'Ll need to complile a custom kernel without that module? do I understant it right?13:47
cfhowlettNady, we had this discussion.  wget is a terminal commandl  wget www.myfilenamehere.com13:47
ActionParsnipWget is default installed13:47
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ubottuSagitt_Away, please see my private message13:47
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cfhowlettNady, try for yourself:  wget http://mirror.bigbuckbunny.de/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_480p_stereo.avi13:48
Servetusr13: 3 gigs of ram and over 8 gigs of swap13:48
Nadyok sir let me try13:48
ActionParsnipServet: you wont be able to hibernate with that.13:49
sacarlsonServet: I think so but I"m not sure that's the present module causing the problem.  what we could try is modprobe sr_mod and see if it loads. if so that means it's not being used13:49
usr13Servet: So what happens when you envoke pm-suspend ?13:49
DudytzI know that install graphical layer (X11) in a server is not a good approach. But, ia a good approach to install X client in a server to use programs like meld (file/folder compare utility) from a remote X Server workstation?13:49
ServetActionParsnip: I don't use hibernate. I was talking about suspend to ram...13:50
ActionParsnipDudytz: what are you wanting to achieve?13:50
usr13Servet: If you issue command pm-suspend, what happens?13:50
peterswinkelsusr13, where do I get the Windows 7 VirtualBox guest additions?13:51
DudytzI need to compare several files and folder, via a gui utility like meld13:51
ActionParsnipDudytz: if you mount the sftp (whih you get when you install openssh-server) you can do the compare on a client system13:51
Dudytzyes, I do this ... but is very very slow13:51
Servetusr13: letme try normally it suspends but after resume I get ksofirqd load on one core13:51
Servet%10013:51
sacarlsonServet: I just tried to modprobe sr_mod and I get no error and also no sr_mod apears in lsmod so I might conclude that it's compiled into the kernel13:51
ActionParsnipDudytz: you could use diff in CLI13:52
DudytzI need a gui13:52
ActionParsnipDudytz: why?13:52
Dudytzbecause I have several, several files to compare, and a gui program is much better than cli13:53
Dudytzto do compare and merge of files13:53
Servetsacarlson: I don't get an error either13:53
DudytzI like meld that have plugins and ignore files like .git, ecc13:53
sacarlsonServet: if I attempt to sudo modprobe zipppss  I get an error so it must be in there13:54
ActionParsnipYou could install meld, then run it using X forwarding.13:54
ActionParsnipDudytz: ^13:54
Dudytzyes, this is my question ... install X client to run via X forwarding is a memory intensive to the server?13:54
ActionParsnipDudytz: there is a difference between "need" and "would like"13:54
Dudytzneed13:55
DudytzI need13:55
ActionParsnipDudytz: not really, try it is all I can say13:55
DudytzI have 2 options, X via forwarding or a full stack gui in the server13:55
ActionParsnipDudytz: I'd x forward personally13:55
Servetsacarlson: on my laptop after modprobe, I still don't see sr mod on the list of lsmod13:55
DudytzX client uses much memory?13:55
sacarlsonServet: I wouldn't expext you would, oh however you might see it when you boot from livecd13:56
ActionParsnipDudytz: very little, the work is beimg done by the server13:56
DudytzActionParsnip: great! thank you very much13:56
ActionParsnipDudytz: if your client is linux based then the x client is already runnimg13:56
chemist^hi everyone! ... 1 quick question... what's the difference between these 2 commands? "apt-get install blabla" and "apt install blabla" ... one is old the other is new? is the outcome the same whichever i use? does the application get installed the same way?13:56
ActionParsnipchemist^: apt install blah won't work13:57
chemist^ActionParsnip, it worked just now :P13:57
ActionParsnipchemist^: apt-get is the command13:57
chemist^i installed a package13:57
Servetusr13: I just used pm-suspend it is the same. I suspends, then wakes up just fine but I am having %100 cpu load problem now. I have to restart13:57
chemist^should i remove it and reinstall it with apt-get?13:57
sacarlsonServet: from that you might be able to test if before suspend you rmmod sr_mod to see if it fixes it.  if it does then maybe it's worth an attempt to convert sr_mod into an external module by recompiling a kernel13:57
ActionParsnipchemist^: they are just different frontends to dpkg which does the work, so its the same essentially13:58
chemist^ok thanks13:58
sacarlsonServet: then you can document the fix and be famos13:58
usr13Servet: htop or top reports 100% CPU usage?14:00
usr13Servet: It should be pretty much unusable.  Right?14:01
sacarlsonServet: oh it also looks that if /dev/srX is present the the driver is in use14:01
usr13Servet: What kernel are you on?14:01
servet_usr13: 14.10 ubuntu 3.16 I guess14:02
usr13servet_: So what is using up the CUP cycles?14:02
usr13*CPU*14:02
servet_sacarlson: what does it do sit I mean /dev/srX14:03
sacarlsonservet_: it's the device for your cd drive or dvd drive I guess that links to the sr_mod driver14:03
servet_sacarlson: uhh so that's the source of the problem then. I am gonna try that script then14:05
sacarlsonservet_: that's only a posible source, only proven when you can remove the module to make the problem go away14:06
sacarlsonservet_: that script won't work on your present kernel build.  it would require a compile to expose sr_mod into module form14:06
servet_sacarlson: after reboot I lost the link. do you still have it? sorry14:06
servet_usr13: ksotrirqd and kworker14:08
sacarlsonservet_: link to what?  oh I should be able to go back up and find it14:08
sacarlsonhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=89660  this one14:09
servet_sacarlson: the link to what you said was a perfect script to remove sr mod start with #bash :) a forum page ....14:09
sacarlsonI'm presently reading this to see if there is a way to stop it without removing the module in it's present state in the kernel http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/sr.html14:09
sacarlsonservet_: yes it was the last entry in that article14:10
sacarlsonservet_: the proc might disable the problem /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock  maybe if it's locked it can't cause a problem?14:13
ronaldsmazitishello, I have a problem with google-chrome14:13
servet_sacarlson: I remember burning some dvds succesfully but not being able to read them properly. could it be related?14:13
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: might try firefox14:13
MonkeyDustronaldsmazitis  let's hear it14:13
ronaldsmazitisit always have a label with some name of link, I haven't opened14:14
sacarlsonservet_: that could be something unrelated or not.  it seems the dvd fails to recover well from suspend for reasons uknown14:14
NadyI am ubanle to install wget on ubuntu14:15
sacarlsonservet_: maybe just try unplug the dvd player14:15
MonkeyDustNady  what happens when you try14:15
ronaldsmazitisit doesn't opens on normal mode, just something different14:16
sacarlsonNady: I think wget is preinstalled14:16
ronaldsmazitisI deleted all files, and reinstalled but14:16
sacarlsonNady: try in a term man wget14:16
ronaldsmazitisnothing changes14:16
Nadyhow to open it then ?14:16
MonkeyDustNady  type wget, see what it says14:16
NadyI am typing it on dashboard and its giving me uget not wget14:17
cfhowlettnady there's nothing to install .  wget is available from your terminal14:17
MonkeyDustNady  type it in a terminal14:17
servet_sacarlson: yeah I can remove it , but I'll probably be away for 10 minutes maybe. it is a laptop..14:17
zezellebonjour14:18
cfhowlett!fr | zezelle14:18
ubottuzezelle: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:18
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: I have problems with chromium locking up and others even worse.  the alternative is try chromium if your running chrome or move on to firefox or others14:18
Nadywhat to type in terminal to open wget ?14:18
MonkeyDustNady  type wget [enter]14:18
zezellemerci14:19
MonkeyDustNady  see what it says, how to use it14:19
sacarlsonNady:  did you read the man wget  to provide the manual for wget?14:19
ronaldsmazitissacarlson: what could be a problem there? ubuntu software usually comes clean14:19
servet_sacarlson: I was trying to change the value of the lock document to 1 with sudo permissions. it rejects to save it because it cannot create a backup file. :could not create a backup file while saving “/proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock”14:19
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: like many other software they didn't seem to keep pace with other changes in the OS or ???14:20
MonkeyDustronaldsmazitis  google-chrome is not ubuntu software, it's google software14:20
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: maybe it only happens on certain hardware??14:20
servet_sacarlson: I am now going ahead and removing the dvd drive if you approve it :)14:20
sacarlsoncan anyone in here run chrome or chromium without problems?14:21
sacarlsonservet_: go for it14:21
sacarlsonservet_: they just snap out14:22
drmagoosacarlson: I've got chrome running on 14.04 without any issues at all...14:22
servet_ok see you in a while :)14:22
sacarlsondrmagoo: did you ever run chromium?14:22
drmagoosacarlson: no, downloaded the deb-package from google.14:23
sacarlsondrmagoo: what verison?14:23
drmagoosacarlson:14:24
drmagoosacarlson: Version 38.0.2125.104 (64-bit)14:24
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: see it works for drmagoo so there is still hope14:24
ronaldsmazitisoh ok14:25
drmagooronaldsmazitis: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/#eula14:26
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: and I run Version 37.0.2062.94 Built on Ubuntu 14.04 64bit and it messes up locks up only 3 times a week, depends on the site I go to14:26
ronaldsmazitischromium works nice still14:26
introhi14:26
introi have a problem14:26
ronaldsmazitisbut I try14:26
introi want install ubuntu 14 on a pendrive usb14:27
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: but that's way too much for me with firefox I have 100% never fails14:27
MonkeyDustintro  14.04 or 14.10 ?14:27
ronaldsmazitissacarlson: I would like to make my own browser one day, just to be sure about everything. but time flys14:28
ActionParsnipMonkeyDust: maybe it got resolved :)14:29
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: if your a programmer I can point you to some better easy projects14:29
MonkeyDustActionParsnip  that's how good this channel is14:29
ActionParsnipsacarlson: tried disabling extensions to test14:29
ActionParsnipMonkeyDust: boom!14:29
ronaldsmazitissacarlson: I am puzzle maker, far from what I expect programming to be14:30
sacarlsonronaldsmazitis: if you like puzzles you've come to the right place being a programer with infinite number of them14:31
Esordo you know how to fix screen tearing on nvidia-prime?14:31
ActionParsnipEsor: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue14:32
sacarlsonActionParsnip: I missed something about extensions or I'm getting old and forgot14:32
EsorUbuntu 14.10 \n \l14:32
ActionParsnipsacarlson: try disanlimg some, see if it helps14:32
ActionParsnipEsor: let me searh14:32
erdinchi guys14:33
EsorI use the newest nvidia drivers and i have been searching for a solution all day14:33
sacarlsonActionParsnip: disanlimg??14:33
EsorI have nvidia optimus graphic card14:33
MonkeyDustEsor  all day? there *is* a world outside your door14:33
Esorlazy day off14:34
Esorlol14:34
ActionParsnipEsor: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450593/how-do-i-eliminate-screen-tearing-on-14-04-and-xbmc-with-nvidia-33114:34
Esori've tried  that14:34
Esordidnt help14:34
ActionParsnipsacarlson: disabling , typo14:34
erdinci want install qbittorrent's latest version but ppa not install automatically how to i install new version?14:35
ActionParsnipEsor: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/how-to-fix-video-tearing-in-videos-nvidia-ubuntu14:35
erdinci am using ubuntu 12.0414:35
servetsacarlson: Sir, you're a genious :) I have removed the dvd drive, tested the suspend mode twice, it seems like the problem is solved :) What do we do now? I use it without DVD or is there a follow up phase?14:35
ActionParsnipEsor: seem omgubuntu has a fix14:35
sacarlsonas connected to the servet_ project?  with the suspend problem maybe?  oh chrome, I don't have any added extentions oh but maybe some come preinstalled14:36
MonkeyDusterdinc  ubunu has deluge, any reason you want to use qbittorrent?14:36
Esorits outdated14:36
Esori've seen that already14:36
ActionParsniperdinc: why is the new version meeded?14:36
erdincbecause maybe bugfixws14:36
erdinc:)14:37
ActionParsnipEsor: if it works, who cares about age. If it does the job then the post date is moot. Try to bear this in mind14:37
sacarlsonActionParsnip: nope no extentions added in my chormium14:37
Esorit doesn't work at all, my nvidia settings haven't got vblank option14:37
ActionParsniperdinc: so you don't actually need the newer version. You just saw a new version? Yes?14:37
erdincyes14:38
ActionParsnipEsor: http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9427 seems there is an environment variable you can set14:38
ActionParsniperdinc: then you don't need it. The version you have is fine.14:39
ActionParsniperdinc: if the gains in the new version are significant then the package will be updated in the repos14:39
erdincok ty14:40
tropicflitewhat are you guys doing about the owncloud security problem?14:40
Esorit doesn't work14:40
andlabsso after updating last night GTK+ programs are no longer obeying fontconfig rules. How do I fix that? Qt/KDE programs are still obeying fontconfig rules. Thans.14:40
tropicflitehttp://www.webupd8.org/2014/10/owncloud-ubuntu-package-affected-by.html14:41
ActionParsnip!info compton14:41
ubottucompton (source: compton): compositor for X11, based on xcompmgr. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1~beta2-1 (utopic), package size 97 kB, installed size 243 kB14:41
MonkeyDusttropicflite  better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic14:41
servetsacarlson: have you seen my message?14:41
sacarlsonservet: pm nope14:42
servetsacarlson: it seems like the problem is solved with the dvd removed.14:42
sacarlsonservet: oh fantastic that's it then14:43
ActionParsnipEsor: if you install xfce4 and log off then log in to the XFCE session, is it ok there?14:43
Esori havent tried that14:43
ActionParsnipEsor: then we wil know its a compiz problem if its ok there14:44
sacarlsonservet: well that almost proves it, but the next step would require a kernel compile unless someone smart can tell us how to disable a built in kernel module14:44
sacarlsonservet: try the lock in proc14:44
ActionParsnipsacarlson: add the boot option: modulename.blacklist=114:45
servetsacarlson: is that modules only job is related to dvd drive? I mean removing it wouldn't cause any issue in the system, would it?14:45
sacarlsonActionParsnip: ya that would work but it's compiled into the kernel not loaded14:46
sacarlsonservet: some or I guess all modules have the option to be compiled directly into the kernel to save load time or ???14:46
FruckiwackiAfter installing lvm on luks through 14.04 installer my luks device is named "sdb5_crypt" - is this changeable without doing a luksFormat?14:47
sacarlsonservet: as it is seen also as a module I would assume if you look at the kernel config you will see the option to make it an external module14:47
nataliahi14:48
nataliahow are you14:48
nataliahelllloo14:48
nataliai am new14:49
MonkeyDustnatalia  this is the support channel, type /j #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat14:49
tropicfliteMonkeyDust ok, thanks14:49
servetsacarlson: where is that config file?  can I do it now or does it need to be done while compling a kernel?14:50
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sacarlsonservet: no the config file is just a text file the is part of a build that they also have tools to look at them to simplify14:51
sacarlsonservet: it's been some time since I played with kernel modification14:51
sacarlsonservet: this might be one place to start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile  I think at minimal you might need the dev or headers of your present kernel to get the config file presently used in that build14:54
Xriva18707Is this the appropriate chat to ask Q's about initial PHP testing (New LAMP install on Trusty Server) ?14:54
sacarlsonXriva18707: there are people like myself that might know something14:55
Xriva18707I apologize in advance as this is pretty basic . . . .14:55
Xriva18707Installed LAMP - mysql and Apache test ok . . .14:55
Xriva18707PHP - created first 'test' file recommended on numerous websites14:55
Xriva18707Fox Fire can't open it14:56
EriC^^Fox fire?14:56
sacarlsonXriva18707: maybe install phpmyadmin  then you will see that php is working and can access mysql14:56
EriC^^i hope you're dyslexic14:56
Xriva18707http://www.htmlite.com/php003.php    Here is one example14:56
Jonathansxhello14:56
ActionParsnipEriC^^: thats a weird hope to have....14:56
ActionParsnipJonathansx: howdy14:57
Xriva18707FoxFire Web Browser14:57
sacarlsonXriva18707: oh maybe permision problems14:57
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Xriva18707ok - I'll install phpmyadmin14:57
EriC^^ActionParsnip: the other option would be that it's the first time he sits on a pc or even worse he's sat before but thinks it's called fox fire14:57
servetsacarlson: instead of me compling a kernel, wouldn't finding the developer of "sr mod" and notifing him about that be a better idea and probably solve the issue of many more people :)14:57
SchrodingersScatEriC^^: or stroke14:58
ActionParsnipXriva18707: why would you want that?14:58
EriC^^SchrodingersScat: lol14:58
sacarlsonservet: is seems this bug has been around for like 4 or more years.  so your now the developer14:58
sacarlsonservet: he's fired14:58
acerspyroservet: glhf14:58
sacarlsonservet: ya but sure give it a wack and also open a bug on it if it's not already created14:59
servetsacarlson: really? if that's not a joke, it is sad :( sorry you knew him then?14:59
Xriva18707I'm trying to test this new LAMP install - before I begin learning - just trying to make sure  the tools are working.14:59
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sacarlsonXriva18707: ya just a simple test like phpinfo or whatever it's called would be another good start to see if your pointing apache2 correctly15:01
sacarlsonXriva18707: I'm not sure what you already know so ...15:02
Xriva18707@ sacarlson - yes, that's what I've tried - it fails - I'm looking for next step to fix - numerous web site tell how to test - but know say what to do if it fails.15:02
somsipXriva18707: so right now, what have you installed and how does it look  in /var/www?15:03
MonkeyDustXriva18707  in your browser, type the address   127.0.0.1   what does it say?15:03
Xriva18707I just an few php and html files that I created15:04
sacarlsonXriva18707: well eather your pointing apache to the wrong root or your not providing correct permitions for www-data to read the file or the contents of the file have syntax errors.  without knowing what errors you see I'm not sure15:04
somsipXriva18707: details are needed. I's no good you being vague if you want help. I, for one, will lose patience real quickly15:04
Xriva18707@ Md - 127.0.0.1 should Acpache is running15:04
Xriva18707Not trying to be vauge15:04
Xriva18707Yes Apache is running15:05
MonkeyDustXriva18707  here in irc, type mo [tab], see what happens15:05
somsipXriva18707: so what is in /var/www and what are you trying to access that is causing it to fail? How is it failing? If you need to paste long lines, use paste.ubuntu.com15:05
sacarlsonservet: ha ha no I didn't know him.  I just see the same error I was dealing with in 2010 that should be fixed by now15:07
peterswinkelsI'm trying to costumize GNOME in Ubuntu 14.04 with dconf-editor, but it appears my settings are being ignored. What should I do?15:07
Xriva18707Thanks for the replies - I'm too basic to really ask for help - I'll go back and review install notes, etc. Thank you.15:07
MonkeyDustpeterswinkels  try gnome-tweak-tool15:07
peterswinkelsok15:07
Xriva18707mo X15:07
MonkeyDustXriva18707  no, type mo and then hit [tab]15:08
somsipMonkeyDust: accept the kiss with good grace and be done with it ;-)15:08
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acerspyrowtf is the "Ubuntu web browser"?15:17
SchrodingersScatacerspyro: idk, where do you see that? context?15:17
acerspyroSchrodingersScat: When I open a link in Konversation15:18
OerHeksacerspyro, it is the standard browser, originally made for touch devices.15:18
acerspyroOerHeks: Oh. I do not have such a device :P15:18
OerHekshandy when you need a browser in a live-iso without internet,15:19
massivetraphttp://www.massivetrap.com15:19
OerHeksdon't click that url .. might be a massivetrap15:20
acerspyrolol15:20
CptPicardNow what's the deal with this -- on utopic I added the bitcoin ppa repository and it seemed to work and even shows in the software sources list, but it's actually not in the sources.list file?15:22
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OerHeksCptPicard, correct, PPA's get their own instance under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder15:23
OerHekssee 'sudo ls  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ '15:24
CptPicardaaa.. thanks15:24
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nusri have ubuntu and windows dual boot but i want to extend the linux partition or maybe even remove the windows partition after i move all my files to external drive. can i use gparted to extend the ubuntu partition without having to reinstall or do i have to backup all my stuff and reinstall15:31
MonkeyDustnusr  backup is always a good idea ... you *can* change the partition size without data loss, but it takes forever to accomplish ... i tried it15:32
cfhowlettnusr, LOL.   ... "or backup".  Of COURSE you back up!  you're mucking about with storage!  yes, you can boot gparted to enlarge or shrink a part.15:33
MonkeyDustnusr  however, you can't change a logical partiotion to a primary15:34
cfhowlettnusr, more precisely, you can likely resize without reinstalling but there's always a risk15:34
nusrcfhowlett & MonkeyDust: so just copy everything and reinstall fresh?15:35
cfhowlettnusr, that would be my recommendation ... but then I'm the king of clean installs. :)15:36
nusrcfhowlett: ok. i need to think about how to go about doing it..15:37
usr13nusr: http://gparted.org/livecd.php15:37
usr13nusr: It is the way I would do it.15:37
cfhowlettnusr, download 14.04.1.  make a boot usb.  use gparted.  (in fact, I carry my extra USB around my neck daily).  consider moving your data to a dedicated /home15:38
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acerspyroWhen a new version of Ubuntu comes out, I can update ot it from 14.04 without re-installing the entire OS, right?15:39
usr13acerspyro: Yes15:39
cfhowlettacerspyro, you can do a live upgrade15:39
acerspyrook great15:40
usr13acerspyro: But it is actually reinstalling the entire OS15:40
acerspyrousr13: But it's seamless?15:40
compdocusually15:40
usr13acerspyro: Yea....15:40
cfhowlettacerspyro, "seamless" ... ehhhhh, mostly15:40
acerspyroLike, no more 14.04, it gets replaced with 15.whatever and all my apps and everything stays?15:40
usr13acerspyro: Things can happen... if you have a power failure, it could be an unrecoverable problem... etc.15:41
cfhowlettacerspyro, have you considered installing 14.04 Long Term Support?  5 years of support ...15:41
acerspyroI will not have a power failure15:41
nusruser13, cfhowlett: thanks. the installationi is really easy so not a problem. just i need to think about whether to try  to squeeze the windows partition or fresh install. packages tweaks15:41
acerspyrocfhowlett: I like my system bleeding-edge15:41
acerspyroTho LTS is what I have right now15:41
cfhowlettacerspyro, 1000 cuts ...15:42
usr13acerspyro: But if you back-up your personal files (/home/), no problem.... :)15:42
usr13acerspyro: LTS is good15:42
acerspyroLTS is the latest right now, isn't it?15:42
nusryes. i like unity too. more than gnome15:42
MonkeyDustacerspyro  14.10 is the latest, it's not an LTS15:43
cfhowlettacerspyro, 14.04 is LTS.  14.10 is supported for 9 months.   N - I - N - E months.15:43
acerspyrok15:43
acerspyroBut I can update to 14.10?15:43
cfhowlettacerspyro, you can15:43
acerspyroIs it like a normal update, or is it the "replace the entire OS, not just parts we need" kind of update?15:44
cfhowlettacerspyro, it's a system upgrade?  what do expect.  It is a NEW OS.15:44
acerspyroI come from Arch, rolling distro lol15:44
joelmounity doesnt support gnome-shell extensions right? or is there a way to install such extensions when using unity?15:45
vitimitiacerspyro, it installs some new packages, uninstalls others and upgrades the rest. It takes very long and the system will be different15:45
vitimitijoelmo, no, that's for gnome315:45
cfhowlettjoelmo, install ubuntu-gnome15:45
k1ljoelmo: no15:45
Balu_My mouse pointer is not working fine ...that it is appearing as many pointers at a time and some times getting stuck .. what might be the problem .. can any one help me15:45
acerspyroBut essentially, I won't have to re-install anything.15:45
usr13acerspyro: But if the last line of /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades says Prompt=lts, it must be changed to Prompt=normal15:46
joelmojust wondered if someone have developed some layer so that I can use gnome-shell extensiosn15:46
nusrspeaking of arch. why does it install language features based on location. geez i have CHINESE ARCH as if arch isn't hard enough15:46
acerspyrochanged it.15:46
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cfhowlett!ubuntugnome | joelmo15:46
acerspyronusr: Idk, does it consider Quebec as being french?15:47
acerspyroI don't remember it trying to install in French.15:47
cfhowlettjoelmo, http://ubuntugnome.org/15:47
usr13acerspyro: Then you can  sudo do-release-upgrade15:47
acerspyrousr13: One thing before: I need a post-it app to put this on.15:47
acerspyrowell, widget15:48
easlilynan My computer runs kali Linux,and I use the easy-creds to creat route AP .yeah my iPhone can search my rogue AP ,but when I connect to it . It display unable to join the network .can anyone help me?15:48
nusracerspyro: hah i don't know. but i'm in asia and the default installed chinese. so now i've got weird character sets in terminal..it outputs english but the formatting is meant for chinese..sigh15:48
acerspyronusr: lal15:48
OerHekseaslilynan, no, this is ubuntu support only15:48
OerHeks!kali15:48
ubottuUbuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)15:48
cfhowlettnusr, I know what happened.15:48
joelmocfhowlett, I like some features in unity so I don't want to switch15:48
usr13acerspyro: Do you have any ppa's?15:48
cfhowlettnusr, I'm in Beijing - same issue.15:48
acerspyrousr13: Hm15:49
acerspyroNot yet, I believe.15:49
usr13acerspyro: Good.15:49
acerspyroI have one on my tower, Blendeer.15:49
acerspyroblender*15:49
acerspyroWhy?15:49
nusrcfhowlett: how do you fix that..i tried looking on the internet15:49
usr13acerspyro: ppa's can sometimes be potential problem for release-upgrade15:49
nusrcfhowlett: i'll ask on the archlinux channel when i register a nick15:50
cfhowlettnusr, when booting and online, ubuntu detects your locale and generates a default locale until you change it.  but it leaves a bit behind.  to clean: sudo locale-gen purge15:50
acerspyrousr13: How do I check? I want to be sure.15:50
acerspyronusr: register one?15:50
acerspyro#freenode15:50
acerspyroOh15:50
acerspyro>register15:50
nusrcfhowlett: thanks a lot15:50
Balu_My mouse pointer is not working fine ...that it is appearing as many pointers at a time and some times getting stuck .. what might be the problem .. can any one help me15:50
ActionParsnip!register15:50
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode15:50
acerspyro /msg nickserv register nusr <password>15:50
nusracerspyro: yes. archlinux requires a registered nick before you can even log in..15:50
ActionParsnipBalu_: is the system a laptop?15:51
acerspyroik that15:51
Balu_laptop gnome15:51
acerspyroNoone should even be running around here without one anyways.15:51
ActionParsnipBalu_: what make and model?15:51
OerHeksacerspyro, wrong, this is an open channel15:51
ActionParsnipBalu_: and what is the output of: cat /etc/issue15:51
Balu_dell inspiron 1515:51
acerspyroOerHeks: I know that, but I do not recommend not having a nickserv account15:51
acerspyroI login using SSL and I have a cloak15:52
Balu_Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l15:53
ActionParsnipBalu_: ok let me search15:53
usr13!ppa-purge | acerspyro15:54
ubottuacerspyro: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html15:54
c0mrad3any help on how to install xgamma on 14.0415:54
c0mrad3https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/xbOv3LeC15:54
usr13acerspyro: Just make a note of ones you've removed and you can add them back after the relese-upgrade15:55
acerspyrook15:55
samthewildoneIs there a way to remove gedit without bringing the system down ?15:55
OerHeksc0mrad3, what is xgamma? url?15:55
usr13acerspyro: With no ppa's, the release-upgrade will have one less reason to create problem15:56
c0mrad3OerHeks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/458454/how-to-make-gamma-settings-on-ubuntu-14-04-permanent15:56
samthewildoneHere's the situation, http://pastebin.com/8Nd0k5vY15:56
acerspyrosamthewildone: ?15:56
samthewildoneI want to remove gedit and build it from source to get the plugins.15:56
acerspyrosamthewildone: Don't purge15:56
acerspyroremove15:56
samthewildoneacerspyro, even when I do remove, the same thing.15:57
acerspyroPurge will necessarily remove everything -USED- by Gedit15:57
cfhowlettsamthewildone, be sure.  be VERY sure you need to do this.15:57
ActionParsnipBalu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220753115:57
samthewildoneacerspyro, http://pastebin.com/AV33wLQN15:57
acerspyroWhy do you want to remove it so badly?15:57
samthewildonecfhowlett, well I cannot get gedit plugins working on gnome 315:57
acerspyrosamthewildone: These are no longer required packages15:58
acerspyroAnyone confirm?15:58
samthewildoneacerspyro, I want to build gedit from source because I assume it should have the plugins feature working.15:58
OerHeksc0mrad3, so what part do you not understand?15:58
usr13samthewildone: sudo apt-get autoremove15:59
samthewildoneI tried to install all known gedit packages from apt but, am not able to get plugins.15:59
samthewildoneusr13, that comes after I remove gedit.15:59
usr13samthewildone: ok15:59
samthewildoneacerspyro, should I just build gedit from source and take it from there ?15:59
c0mrad3OerHeks: I was trying to install xgamma but I couldn't install it it is showing the following error15:59
c0mrad3http://askubuntu.com/questions/458454/how-to-make-gamma-settings-on-ubuntu-14-04-permanent15:59
samthewildoneacerspyro, though it will conflict with the original package.16:00
ActionParsnipBalu_: also try gysnaptics16:00
c0mrad3https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/decjxKMx16:00
OerHeksc0mrad3, because it is already on your system16:00
acerspyroThing is, it's trying to remove Unity16:00
usr13samthewildone: Should be able to use the package management system.  What is the problem?16:00
acerspyroubuntu-gnome-desktop16:00
OerHeksc0mrad3, type: xgamma -help16:00
usr13samthewildone: What plugin can't you get?16:00
samthewildoneusr13, all of them.16:00
acerspyrousr13: it wants to remove ubuntu-gnome-desktop16:00
samthewildoneusr13, I'm not able to see the preferences options in gedit.16:01
usr13samthewildone: as acerspyro suggested, do not use purge16:01
samthewildoneusr13, therefore I cannot set gedit the way I used it unity.16:01
c0mrad3kk OerHeks I didn't check that one :)16:01
vitimitisamthewildone, the preferences in gnome are found in the hotbar (in the upper part of the screen)16:01
cfhowlettsamthewildone, possible alternative: byobu:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byobu_%28software%2916:01
usr13samthewildone: I see. Well, what DE are you using?16:01
vitimitisamthewildone, they are included in the menu of the window in the bar16:01
acerspyrovitimiti: Thank you, you're not being useful, he wants the new ones.16:02
vitimitiThat's why you can't see the preferences16:02
samthewildonevitimiti, Thank you !16:02
samthewildonevitimiti, I didn't know that...16:02
samthewildonevitimiti, I was going crazy for weeks.16:02
vitimitiWell, he said he couldn't see the preferences and I told him how to, acerspyro. And I was useful16:02
acerspyrooh, eh, sorry :P16:03
vitimitisamthewildone, GTK3 applications moved most of their options to there in Gnome316:03
samthewildoneThanks all for the help, this is going to help me tremendously !16:03
c0mrad3OerHeks: can you say how can we use xgamma similar to redshift16:03
samthewildoneso close to bringing the whole system down.16:03
OerHeksc0mrad3, no, that page has enough info howto make a script?16:04
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usr13samthewildone: Well, I just use xfce16:05
c0mrad3OerHeks: I am not asking about how to make a script I am asking how to use xgamma as redshift which changes the colour of the screen16:05
usr13samthewildone: Things are simplier / easier for me.16:05
yannisvHey guys. VLC has some problems playing HD video, is there a better alternative or a codec? Or perhaps an option to enable?16:06
OerHeksc0mrad3, xgamma is just a static setting, not like redshift, if i understand correctly16:06
ActionParsnipyannisv: have you tried a different output option in settings?16:06
c0mrad3OerHeks: I too want a static setting irrespective of the time :)16:06
sirbladehalp16:07
acerspyrosirblade: halp?16:07
acerspyroWat halp?16:07
sirbladetrusty tahr unstable wifi16:07
acerspyroWhy?16:07
yannisvI've tried a couple of options in the video accelerated decoding, is that what you mean?16:07
sirbladegrunt16:07
ActionParsnipsirblade: what wifi chip?16:07
ActionParsnipyannisv: look under the output option. I believe the default is X1116:07
usr13yannisv: mplayer ?16:07
sirbladeBus 001 Device 005: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]16:08
usr13yannisv: xine ?16:08
ActionParsnipsirblade: if you run: sudo lshw -C network , can you please pastebin the output.16:08
usr13yannisv: gxine ?16:09
yannisvActionParsnip: It's set to Automatic. What do you suggest? There are lots of options.16:09
ActionParsnipyannisv: +1 for mplayer :)16:09
ActionParsnipyannisv: try a few of the options....16:09
yannisvusr13: I'll look them up16:09
yannisvActionParsnip: Sure, thanks.16:09
ZeXx86k1l: Hi, I have attached logs for my bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1373661 do you think there is chance of fixing the issue?16:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 1373661 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "PulseAudio settings are not loaded correctly after boot" [Undecided,New]16:09
c0mrad3OerHeks: can you say me how the colours of redshift are configured they set 3500K in night and 5500K in the day time :) is there a way that I can achieve the same with xgamma so that I need not install redshift (as redshift is not working for me :(  )16:10
usr13!totem > yannisv16:10
ubottuyannisv, please see my private message16:10
OerHeksc0mrad3, nope, better ask the channel16:10
sirbladehttp://pastebin.com/NvHX8D4j16:10
usr13yannisv: I should have done that all on one line.  Sorry...16:10
c0mrad3OerHeks: which channel is there a channel for xgamma ??16:11
OerHeksjust here :-)16:11
yannisvusr13: It's alright, thanks a lot!16:11
ActionParsnipsirblade: try: echo "options rtl8192cu swenc=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192.conf16:12
ActionParsnipsirblade: reboot to test16:12
sirbladeorly16:12
sirbladek16:12
ActionParsnipsirblade: also, make sure that there are not lots of networks on the same wireless channel you use16:12
sirbladeit worked before I upgraded16:12
sirbladeI was on precise pangolin16:12
sarthorHI, Using ubuntu-server 13.04 , How to change Server for software source, IN GUI that was easy but here confused. HELP  please.16:12
ActionParsnipsirblade: what did you upgrade from?16:12
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ActionParsnipsirblade: did Precise work ok?16:13
sirbladeyup perfect16:13
cfhowlett!server | sarthor  server?  with a gui?16:13
ubottusarthor  server?  with a gui?: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server16:13
ActionParsnipsarthor: Raring is EOL and no long supported16:13
cfhowlett!eolupgrade | sarthor, also16:13
ubottusarthor, also: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:13
sirbladeI dont yet have a /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192.conf is that ok16:13
ActionParsnipsarthor: I suggest you wipe Raring off and do a clean install of Trusty. Trusty is LTS and supported til april 201916:14
ActionParsnipsirblade: yes, the command will make the file16:14
ZeXx86I want to ask Ubuntu stuff, if I submit patch which will fix some issue, is this patch distributed as soon as possible or affected users have to wait years for fix for next distro version?16:14
acerspyroLong enough for you to establish a family.16:14
sirbladekk16:14
sarthorit says : Package 'dnsmasq' has no installation candidate16:14
sarthor ActionParsnip O.k. going to do that.. Thanks.16:14
reisioZeXx86: depends on how useful people find it16:14
reisioacerspyro: and then disappoint them with your procrastination vis-a-vis updating :p16:15
ActionParsnipsarthor: its like trying to get updates for windows 98. They don't exist16:15
acerspyroreisio: lol16:15
cfhowlettsarthor, if that system is online = expect attacks.  no security upgrades ...16:15
ZeXx86reisio: well, it can fix critical bug, for example with PulseAudio16:15
acerspyroWell, I'm on 3GB/month internet right now16:15
ebi_oula...16:16
acerspyroWhen I'm back home, it's 60 GB/month, so I'll update.16:16
ebi_ça parle anglais ?16:16
sarthorgoing for trusty.16:16
cfhowlett!fr | ebi_,16:16
ubottuebi_,: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.16:16
reisioebi_: :)16:16
ebi_Ah bon, d'accord...16:16
reisio:D16:16
ebi_By !16:17
sirbladedidn't help16:18
acerspyroimma help him :D16:18
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MonkeyDust!contribute | ZeXx8616:18
ubottuZeXx86: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu16:19
sirbladeI was trying to turn off wirelss N earlier with sudo iwconfig modu 11g but it didnt recognize it16:20
sirbladeany ideas?16:20
sacarlsonZeXx86: if your patch get's into ppa it can effect many people that need it instantly they find it.  or you can just publish your change to github as long as people find it16:20
ActionParsnipsirblade: have you checked the wireless channels and how busy they are?16:20
usr13sirblade: Is it a laptop?16:20
ZeXx86MonkeyDust: sacarlson: thanks16:20
ActionParsnipsirblade: you may want to remove that file so the option is not applied16:21
ActionParsnipsirblade: you said Precise worked ok, right?16:21
sirbladeyes16:21
sirbladeprecise worked16:21
ZeXx86My point is, that normal people, which are very beginners, shouldn't wait for bug fixes for next distro release16:22
ActionParsnipsirblade: considering Precise has 3 years support left, why did you fix what wasn't broken....?16:22
sirbladeI like to tweak!16:22
ActionParsnipsirblade: it makes no sense, do you fix your car when its working?16:22
sirbladeno cause I'm not into cars but if I was I would be trying new things like NO16:23
ActionParsnipsirblade: strange.16:23
slyrusafter upgrading to utopic, my nfs mounts no longer automount at startup. is this a feature?16:23
sirbladeI would like a fuel cell car actually16:23
ActionParsnipsirblade: check the channels dude, if you are on a busy chanmel, you can switch to a less busy one16:24
MonkeyDustZeXx86  "very beginners" don't notice bugs16:24
acerspyroI'm retarded so I would16:24
sirbladehow to do that16:24
sirbladeand16:24
ActionParsnipsirblade: sudo iwlist scan , will show nearby networks.16:24
sirbladedo u know how to switch it to G only16:24
ZeXx86MonkeyDust: well, for example black window in nautilus is quite noticeable16:24
sirbladeyah but does that show how busy the channels are16:24
ActionParsnipsirblade: the module may have that option, or you may be able to set it in your router and you will need your manual for that16:25
sirbladeit's a usb wlan,16:25
slyrusoh, wait, this is because of systemd, isn't it?16:25
ZeXx86MonkeyDust: or jittering sound, sound which does not play, etc16:25
ActionParsnipsirblade: the command shows the wireless name and channel, use eyes and count the networks16:25
sirbladeno busy channels16:25
ki7mtZeXx86, Post a bug against the package, with your solutions, and let the devs decide on what action to take.16:25
cfhowlettZeXx86, this^^^^16:26
ZeXx86ki7mt: I will16:27
octaederhello16:27
sirbladehow do I tell if I have the latest 8192 driver16:27
ActionParsnipsirblade: try: options rtl8192cu ips=0 fwlps=0 ,in the conf file..may help16:27
sirbladewhich conf?16:27
TrudkoHi guys, how can I split two windows 50/50 on monitor if I have double monitors?16:27
TrudkoI can stick easily windows on the outer sides of monitors but not on inner(because naturaly ubuntu thinks I want to move window between monitors16:28
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ZeXx86ki7mt: but I am not familiar with such politics where users have to use latest distributions to get latest package versions with major bug fixes. For me it seems as there is distro release and all work is stopped there, no new version of kernel, unity, mesa, etc - only security updates16:29
alevosiahey there16:29
ZeXx86ki7mt: and I am thinking if it is good for very normal users16:30
alevosiadoes anyone know a command to move all files out of folders, to the current folders, recursively?16:30
ZeXx86alevosia: mv folder/* .16:31
octaedertrudko: what desktop environment are you using?16:31
Trudkounity16:31
usr13ZeXx86: See my PM16:31
ki7mtZeXx86, That's not exactly true, many packages get back-ported to earlier versions when and where it's possible, but due to dependencies, it may not always be possible or practical to do so.16:31
alevosiaZeXx86, but there are a lot of folders, i would wish no to have to write a command for each of them16:31
sacarlsonZeXx86: it's open source so you can always create a branch of code and publish it.  if it becomes more popular due to it works better than it becomes a part of ubuntu or maybe another better repo16:31
alevosiawould this work? -> mv */* .16:32
sacarlsonalevosia: I don't think so16:33
cfhowlettZeXx86, there is nothing stopping you from making your contribution.16:33
MonkeyDustZeXx86  publish your patches and hope someone picks it up16:34
cfhowlettalevosia, recursively?  command -r -R               right?16:34
ki7mtalevosia, wild cards have their place for sure, but care should be taken when using then moving and removing files. It's much safer to specify extension types or a specific folder rather than globbing the move.16:34
usr13ZeXx86: You have a valid point. But there comes a time when you have to make things work.  You can't have everything. (Some versions of some packages will just break things.)16:35
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somsipalevosia: you want to move all files from a number of different folders into one flat folder? so 1/a 1/b 2/c goes to new/a new/b new/c ?16:35
nopfalevosia: find folder1 foldern -type f -exec mv {} . \;16:36
ActionParsnipalevosia: you may want to check duplicate names don't exist16:36
slyrusis the stuff in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd about NFS mounts still correct?16:36
nusrcfhowlett: i went back to arch to purge the locale but terminal still has bad formatting..could it be is need to install a graphics driver?16:36
nopfalevosia: mv -i {} ...  to be warned before overwriting16:37
cfhowlettnusr, only the terminal is looking bad?16:37
ActionParsnipnusr: we don't support Arch here16:37
nusrcfhowlett: yes so far16:37
nusrActionParsnip: yes i know. sorry.16:38
andlabsso after updating last night GTK+ programs are no longer obeying fontconfig rules. How do I fix that? Qt/KDE programs are still obeying fontconfig rules. Thans.16:40
david38400I am suddenly having problems with ubuntu 14.04 and bluetooth. Everythis was ok and now when I turn on my bluetooth speaker it doesn't work and the bluetooth icon appears with a lock on it? Any hel please?16:40
ki7mtandlabs, GTK and QT are two different frameworks, and mostly likely, two different control sets. How / what did you upgrade ?16:43
MonkeyDustandlabs  iirc, zorin uses both qt and gtk ... are you using zorin?16:43
desperate_joeubuntu 14.04... english install... however, in the date bar, top of the screen, when clicking on the date, it tells the day in GERMAN??!! I never installed anything german... how to remove this pls16:43
usr13david38400: Is it a laptop?16:44
andlabski7mt: update history http://sprunge.us/IeVO16:44
andlabsMonkeyDust: no16:44
MonkeyDustdesperate_joe  system settings > language support > apply system wide16:44
slyrushrm... syslog shows idmapd-mounting ... main process killed by TERM signal for each of the volumes I'm trying to mount. that's not good.16:45
david38400usr13, Hi there. No its a desktop and has been fine til today16:45
desperate_joei opened language support and it automatically said that some things were not installed correctly, is installing as we speak16:45
usr13david38400: You may need to use rfkill to unblock it16:46
ki7mtandlabs, so this looks to be either a dist-upgrade or release-upgrade ?16:46
david38400usr13, I had the icon on a moment ago and clicked on it and its disappeared. How can I get it back on16:46
david38400usr13, just sudo rfkill16:46
usr13david38400: something like sudo rfkill unblock bluetooth16:46
andlabski7mt: dist-upgrade16:46
desperate_joeother issue... my laptop is dual boot, win7 and ubuntu 14.04, it is something that occurs in both OS: keyboard is in azerty, but sometimes it automatically changes to qwerty16:47
david38400usr13, done that?   Any idea how to get the bluetooth icon back on the top of the screen16:47
usr13david38400: I think rfkill list will show what is blocked16:47
ki7mtandlabs, Ok, to be honest, with 714 upgraded, 154 newly installed packages, it would be foolish to "guess" what the cause is, my advise would be to file a bug against the package your having issues with, and pursue it that way.16:48
usr13david38400: You will be looking for soft blocked:16:48
slyrusanyone have nfs mounts working at startup under utopic?16:48
david38400usr13, will try again16:48
andlabski7mt: this is affecting ALL gtk+ apps, includin ghtose built using a jhbuild tree16:48
usr13david38400: rfkill list16:48
andlabsthough the menus in firefox work properly16:48
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HolzbeinHello! Can s.o. give advice concernint GNOME3 on ubuntu 14.04?16:49
david38400usr13, it says hard blocked no then soft blocked no16:49
usr13david38400: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-bluetooth/+bug/131121116:49
ubottuUbuntu bug 1311211 in indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth icon has a padlock emblem when paired with device" [Low,Triaged]16:49
ki7mtandlabs, Fare enough, so it's something common to all of them, which narrows it down, but still, unless someone here is well versed with the GTK packaging, it's still a guess.16:50
usr13david38400: if it says blocked: no, then that was not the problem.16:50
david38400usr13, ok will do thanks. Do you know how I can get the bluetooth icon back on the top panel again?16:50
usr13david38400: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/128300316:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 1283003 in Ubuntu "[Bluetooth + 14.04] Bluetooth headsets are not working after last couple of updates" [High,Confirmed]16:51
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andlabshonestly I'm considering just killing this install and reinstalling because I have a bunch of other problems as well16:51
kazdax_my browser isnt showing any page16:51
kazdax_it says server not found..it was working a moment before16:51
kazdax_i am using firefox16:52
HolzbeinI have a question about Xorg16:52
reisioHolzbein: prove it16:52
bekkskazdax_: So check your network connection and your DNS settings.16:52
kazdax_well irc is working16:52
kazdax_the network is working16:52
bekkskazdax_: So check your DNS settings.16:52
Holzbeinprove what?16:53
kazdax_bekks what should i check for ?16:54
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sacarlson1kazdax_: maybe the proxy settings got changed for some reason16:54
ki7mtandlabs, that's your call,  I tend to test LTS to LTS upgrades only, but, one can have various levels of success based on the level of customizations ( PPA's, persaonal hacks, etc ). More often than not, for none testing boxes, I install from the ISO rather than upgrading.16:54
reisioHolzbein: that you have a question16:55
david38400thanks guys16:55
kazdax_hmm and where do i go to check the proxy settings16:55
kazdax_right now i am checking fixfox settings to see if anything is fishy there16:56
bekksMonkeyDust: Which DNS server do you use, currently?16:56
kazdax_should i check no proxy in firefox ?16:56
sacarlson1kazdax_: http://www.wikihow.com/Enter-Proxy-Settings-in-Firefox16:57
Holzbein@reisio X crashes frequently16:57
Holzbeinwhy?16:57
Holzbeinnvm16:58
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reisioHolzbein: your graphics driver and/or window manager is imperfect16:58
ed______ hi i am confused about how to boot an image of a disk. i dd a drive to .img them mounted the drive in ubuntu. virtualbox is running dual mode with xp start at the bottom and ubuntu on the top. but i want another vm to boot the mounted drive image for rescuing drivers and searching for bad files16:58
Holzbeinthc16:58
Holzbeinthxc16:58
Holzbeinthx16:58
reisioed______: #vbox16:59
ki7mtkazdax_, unless you know for sure that you connect to the web through a proxy, you *should not* enable any proxy settings.16:59
kazdax_well the proxy was enabled in the settings17:00
kazdax_i said no proxy17:00
kazdax_and restarted firefox but that dint work17:00
kazdax_and i havnt installed anything on the system ..it just suddenly stopped displaying webpages17:00
sacarlson1kazdax_: what kind of isp do you have then.  maybe a proxy was needed?17:01
kazdax_the previous option it had was auto-detect proxy settinf ro this network17:01
shaaradkazdax, try pinging some website through terminal17:01
kazdax_well this system is in a vm and i am using comcast17:01
kazdax_okay ping failed17:02
shaaradthen its not a problem of firefox alone17:02
kazdax_but irc is running ..i dont know much about networks17:02
kazdax_ports being blocked ?17:02
shaaradpossible17:02
sacarlson1kazdax_: ping of what?  try ping 8.8.8.817:03
bekkskazdax_: Which DNS servers are you using?17:03
kazdax_okay that works17:03
sacarlson1kazdax_: ping google.com17:03
kazdax_well there is no DNS server..maybe its automatically using a dns17:03
kazdax_ping google is not working17:03
bekkskazdax_: What is "it"?17:03
shaarad8.8.8.8 is google dns I guess17:03
bekksand ping google will not work, since thats not a proper FQDN17:04
sacarlson1kazdax_: ya your dns resolve is mest up17:04
kazdax_so it needs to connect to a dns ?17:04
shaaradkazdax_ : otherwise you will need the IP of website to connect.17:04
bekkskazdax_: When using a FQDN, it needs to resolve that FQDN using a DNS server.17:04
shaaradDNS resolves URL to an IP17:05
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kazdax_ahh right17:05
sacarlson1kazdax_: ya so I would assume you have a dhcp conection so it should auto reset a dns if you reconect17:05
MonkeyDustHolzbein  basic networking17:05
kazdax_so thats why its pinging the ip but not he url17:05
kazdax_since it cant get the ip17:05
ki7mtthis sounds like his ISP DNS  is not working correctly, unless he's manually set DNS elsewhere17:06
bekkskazdax_: Use 8.8.8.8 as your DNS server, in your network settings.17:06
kazdax_okay but my other computers are working fine17:06
Nothing_MuchCurious, why are the AMD and Nvidia drivers incredibly outdated on 14.04?17:06
shaaradtry pinging 173.194.36.17, I got this address from pinging google.com17:06
Killjoyhello?17:06
kazdax_yea that works shaarad17:07
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Guest69262hellooo?17:07
sacarlson1kazdax_: just unplug and replug the cable or disconect and reconect to your wifi17:07
Guest69262anybody her?17:07
ki7mtshaarad, Yes, but that can change from day to day, 8.8.8.8 wont change.17:07
shaaradkazdax_ then it's the problem with DNS.. try contacting your network admin for DNS address or something17:07
reisioGuest69262: nope17:07
Guest69262does anyone know how to mask my ip?17:08
shaaradyes ki7mt, I was trying to confirm that problem is with DNS17:08
somsip!cloak | Guest6926217:08
ubottuGuest69262: To get any kind of cloak (ubuntu member or any other kind) you first need to set up your nick as detailed in this FAQ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup -  For Ubuntu member cloaks, ask in #ubuntu-irc and provide your launchpad page, for unaffiliated ones, ask in #freenode.17:08
sacarlson1kazdax_: you can also try dig yahoo.com to see what is presently set as your dns server17:08
Guest69262thnx bro17:08
Nothing_MuchCurious, why are the AMD and Nvidia drivers incredibly outdated on 14.04?17:08
ki7mtkazdax_, Assuming you have a Home Router, add one of the Google DNS severs to you Network settings, flush the DNS, then try again. Add 8.8.8.8 as the secondary or tertiary.17:09
OerHeks!latest17:09
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.17:09
acerspyroki7mt: Isn't there also 8.8.4.4?17:11
slyrusi was about to have a discussion with ubottu before I realized it was a bit. whoops...17:11
bekksacerspyro: Yes, thats the secondary DNS.17:11
kazdaxkim whats a google dns ?17:12
kazdaxand yes i have a home router17:12
bekkskazdax: The DNS server provided by google.17:12
ki7mtacerspyro, There also FreeDNS  .. could use whatever he likes, the point is, to share the DNS duties between different providers to eliminate single point failures.17:12
bekkskazdax: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.417:12
usr13ki7mt: I may be late to the conversation, but what are you talking about?17:14
kazdaxokay its working17:14
kazdaxthanks alot guys17:14
kazdaxi do have another question...why was it working previously and stopped working and how was it reolving the DNS address before17:14
kazdaxif there wasnt any i added ?17:14
ki7mtkazdax, Just for closure, what did you do to fix the issue ?17:15
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slyrusdear mount: it would be nice if you told me _which_ argument was invalid, not just that I had an invalid argument...17:15
bekkskazdax: We dont know what you did before it stopped working, and we dont know what happened in your network.17:15
kazdaxI added the DNS server 8.8.8.8 as one fo the extra servers17:15
usr13ki7mt: Only one nameserver is used.   Dynamic DNS a different thing, (dynamic DNS, not nameserver).17:15
ki7mtusr13, Yes, I understand DNS, thanks.17:16
usr13kazdax: But only the first one is used, (unless it fails).17:16
kazdaxyou mean the default one that was being used previously17:16
ki7mtusr13, Which was his issue in this case.17:16
usr13kazdax: So unless you have added it as the only one, or as the first one, not much has changed.17:16
afidwhai17:16
reisioohai17:17
blackangelhai17:17
reisioohio17:17
kazdaxeither i got disconnected or the problem has occured again17:17
usr13kazdax: If it is the second one, it will only get used if the first one times out.17:17
ki7mtkazdax, In any case, well done, glad you have it sorted out.17:17
blackangelhelp pls my hack website17:17
blackangelhelp pls my hack website17:17
blackangelhelp pls my hack website17:17
afidwiam from indonesia17:17
bekksblackangel: Stop it.17:17
blackangelsorry17:18
kazdaxhe i from 9x17:18
bekksblackangel: You are on the wrong channel on the wrong network.17:18
kazdaxis *17:18
kazdaxon efnet lol17:18
kazdaxwell the problem came back17:18
bekkskazdax: After doing what?17:18
afidw9x?17:18
kazdaxi am addinganother dns server17:18
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kazdaxyea nyex or something17:18
kazdaxused to be a bad phone company n newyork17:18
kazdaxits working now thats odd17:19
bekkskazdax: What is "nyez"?17:19
kazdaxnynex17:19
kazdaxits a phone company back in the day17:19
bekkskazdax: How does that answer my question?17:19
usr13kazdax: Are you using your router's caching nameserver?17:19
ki7mtnynex is a telcom17:19
jmft2Hello. I'm on Trusty, my wifi card's a 'Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6235', and as of yesterday (after a reboot) I've been unable to connect to wifi networks... the menu in Network Manager sometimes shows a list of networks, but after a few seconds will say 'device not ready' or 'disconnected'. Any tips?17:20
kazdaxyea but they have a room that i think was something these guys used to phreak that particular company17:20
kazdaxokay its working now17:20
kazdaxchancing nameserver ?17:20
kazdaxcaching nameserver ..i have no idea what that is usr17:20
kazdaxbekks what question ?17:21
ki7mtkazdax, The issue may not be all on your end, it can be connectivity issues at you ISP outbound as well.17:21
kazdaxfor a moment it could not resolve google but now its working17:21
usr13kazdax: You should set your router to use a known to be good nameserver, (one recommended by your ISP is usually best / fastest), and then just set your system to query the router for IP information (including nameserver).17:21
bekkskazdax: I asked you what you did prior "well the problem came back".17:22
kazdaxohh17:22
kazdaxnothing17:22
kazdaxi opened google17:22
brothersome8.8.8.8 works for a nameserver17:22
OerHeksresetting router can do wonders to connectionproblems too17:22
kazdaxit dint relove ..i tried pinging it ..then i waited for a while ..refreshed and its coming o nnow17:22
usr13kazdax: Pretty much all modern routers have a caching nameserver.  Use it.17:22
kazdaxyea but my other systems are running fine17:22
nefosalut17:22
reisio'lo17:23
nefohi17:23
kazdaxso i call my isp up to find the name server ?17:23
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usr13kazdax: As OerHeks suggests, you may just restart your router.  If one of your systems is having a network problem, restarting the router will often times clear it up.17:23
kazdaxokay its offline again17:24
nefoim a beginner on ubuntu os can you help me ?17:24
kazdaxso its connecting and then not connecting17:24
shaaradyes nefo17:24
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bekks!beginner | nefo17:24
bekkshmm.17:24
linuxx44hi17:24
usr13kazdax: Restarting the router will clear the routing tables which can sometimes be an issue17:24
shaaradlol bekks17:24
nefofirst im french and i have a bad english17:24
kazdaxokay ill try and come and let you guys know if it worked or not17:25
kazdaxbrb17:25
kazdaxbad english is good :P17:25
linuxx44does  Intel Z3735D  bsed tablets support linux ?17:25
usr13linuxx44: What are you trying to do?17:25
linuxx44i want to buy one .. expesially if they support linux ?17:25
nefoi have a hold pc and i cant install 14.0417:26
OerHekslinuxx44, atom is supported, maybe a tablet too, hard to say without details17:26
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shaaradnefo have you made a live thumb drive for install?17:26
brothersomeHee, Android is also running on Linux --- Asus Pad7 runs Android on Intel Atom processor17:26
nefoproblem is my hdd is empty its the first install17:27
simonornefo:Old PC's can be x86 only. That means the newest Ubuntu they can take is 12.0417:27
linuxx44there is 4 core chinesse tablets using this processors.17:27
nefoand i dont know how to install the b43 with the os17:27
jmft2Is there any way of getting a log of what updates I've installed? I suspect a recent update may have killed my wifi driver.17:27
bekkssimonor: 14.04 is available as 32bit, too.17:28
reisiojmft2: /var/log/17:28
shaaradnefo is your old pc 32 bit or 64 bit? at least how old is it?17:28
nefo32 bits17:28
nefoand hp mini 213317:28
usr13!b43 | nefo17:28
ubottunefo: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx17:28
bekksnefo: So you can use 14.0417:28
nefoi read a lot of topics on this but im not17:29
simonorbekks:Of course. But I found that non-accelerated graphics on older Via and (old) Intel can't cope with recent Unity.17:29
bekkssimonor: Which doesnt mean you cant use Ubuntu.17:29
bekkssimonor: Just dont use Unity then.17:29
shaaradthen have you downloaded i386 version of 14.04 ISO?17:29
usr13simonor: xubuntu ?17:29
brothersomeLubuntu is also nice17:30
usr13!xubuntu-desktop | simonor17:30
ubottusimonor: k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.17:30
nefohow do you install the broadcom driver with the ubuntu ?17:31
usr13That is not what I was looking for.  I think that factoid may be in error.17:31
simonorI guess. My old hardware has been relegated anyway, I don't need to fix it up. Just saying nefo might need it17:31
usr13.. or could at least be re-written to be more relavent to xubuntu-desktop17:31
usr13nefo: Scroll up17:32
simonornefo - B43 is a proprietory driver. You need to connect with a cable or dongle to download the drivr.17:32
usr13!b43 > nefo17:32
ubottunefo, please see my private message17:32
nefoubottu resent it please17:33
ubottunefo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:33
kazdaxhey i restarted the router17:33
kazdaxand now i cant even connect to irc from the linux machine17:33
kazdaxbut it still pings to 8.8.8.817:33
tewardkazdax: can you run `dig irc.freenode.net` in the terminal and pastebin the output?  One thing to check is that you can resolve the IP(s) right17:34
kazdaxhmm17:34
sunnymoliniWhat's the best tool for recording system monitoring statistics to a db?17:34
nefothank im found a french channel17:34
nefogood night all17:35
simonorsunny : redirect dmesg17:35
simonorcheers nefo.17:35
kazdax; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu <<>> irc.freenode.net17:35
kazdax;; global options: +cmd17:35
kazdax;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached17:35
kazdaxi am using my windows box right now to chat17:36
kazdaxhmm ..i did visit some russian sites that had source codes to malware..you think i am infected ?17:36
kazdaxis there a malware scanner for linux ?17:37
bekkskazdax: How do we know wether you are infected?17:37
OerHekskazdax, just change back your dns stuff17:37
bekkskazdax: Thats impossible to answer.17:37
reisiokazdax: clamscan (from clamav)17:37
OerHekslogically17:37
kazdaxi think ill just try restarting the system17:37
kazdaxperhaps it will work17:37
tewardkazdax: we can't really identify whether you're infected or not, but you shouldn't be going to sites with malware on them anyways.17:37
reisiovery little badware targets anything but win3217:38
kazdaxright that was what i was thinking but there is malware for linux17:38
linuxx44kazdax:  linux is ,,mostly scripts based systems17:38
kazdaxspecially people who want botnets and such17:38
bekkslinuxx44: Which is not true.17:38
kazdaxill try and restart the system and see if it works17:38
reisioIME badware for Unix systems is more cunningly distributed17:38
bekkskazdax: So can you finally fix your DNS back to the working state?17:38
OerHeksyeah, think about malware, not dns setting17:38
reisiothan "omfg download this warez HAHAHAH NOW YOU HAZ TROJAN"17:39
linuxx44lol its part of true imo17:39
bekkskazdax: And you dont need to restart - you are not using windows.17:39
sacarlson1kazdax: try rebot you router17:39
kazdaxi rebooted the router17:39
reisiohaving a package manager and thousands of open source apps cuts down lots17:39
bekkslinuxx44: Its wrong, since the most parts of your linux distribution arent scripts.17:39
kazdaxohh well i restarted17:40
kazdaxlet me get it back up ..ill try getting the anti virus maybe there is a malware17:40
sacarlson1kazdax: then you should add another dns server to the /etc/resolve file17:40
usr13kazdax: Did you check to see what nameserver you are using?17:40
bekkssacarlson1: the file is named /etc/resolve.conf17:40
kazdaxusr from the ISP ?17:40
usr13kazdax: Did you check to see what nameserver you are using?17:40
sacarlson1kazdax: ya bekks file17:40
usr13kazdax: host av.com17:41
linuxx44well lets say its wery big part is scripts driven  :D17:41
usr13kazdax: Are you resolving domain names ok?  Or not?17:41
kazdaxhold on17:41
kazdaxthe system is booting17:41
kazdaxhmm ..well i removed the dns i was using17:41
kazdaxit was working whe ni added the dns 8.8.8.17:41
kazdaxthen it stopped and worked again but when i reset the router17:42
bekkskazdax: So you removed 8.8.8.8 ?17:42
kazdaxit stopped altogheter and even the irc wont work17:42
kazdaxyes17:42
bekksWhy?17:42
kazdaxbekks17:42
kazdaxsomeonet old me to17:42
bekksIt was working using 8.8.8.8 and you removed the _working_ DNS server?17:42
bekksI am out of that issue then, good luck.17:42
kazdax<OerHeks> kazdax, just change back your dns stuff17:42
kazdaxno it was working for a momemnt with 8.8.8.817:42
kazdaxthen it stopped working ..and then came back up and then stopped..then i reset the router to see if it hepls17:43
kazdaxbut then it stopped all togheter working17:43
linuxx44googles dnss working better then service providers ones for ,me too.17:43
OerHeks.. and when you came back, it didnt work, so what is logically the failure?17:43
kazdaxnow the system wont even boot17:43
Ashaelhello. Just upgraded to 14.10, and the upgrade froze. I managed to install most packages, but apt-get seems to be stuck on some package. I tried running dpkg but it didn't help. can anyone help?17:44
reisiogoogle isn't greedy17:44
reisiothey're happy having all your information, without giving you additional ads on top of it17:44
kazdaxi am going to restart again17:44
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sacarlson1kazdax: if it doesn't work how is it we still see you here?17:44
kazdaxi am using a windows box17:44
kazdaxmy linux was on a vm17:44
simonorKazdax:compromised system? Re-install?17:45
kazdaxi was chatting previously from it17:45
linuxx44lol then is it the proof that the system is booting uing dns ?17:45
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kazdaxyea definatly a malware17:45
kazdaxnow it wont boot17:45
bekkslinuxx44: It is proof for "we dont know what he actually did."17:45
reisiokazdax: #windows17:45
Fuchs##windows, actually17:45
linuxx44yeah windows blues screen :D it hAppens ewen if windows see a bad hdd block one bit is enough so,meti,mes :D17:46
OerHekslinux malwarescanner is useless on a windows host :-)17:46
reisioFuchs: I don't work for ###hashnode17:46
simonorkazdax:what emulator, what network model?17:46
reisio's'your job17:47
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reisioclean up your own messes17:47
sacarlson1kazdax: I've never seen malware that works on linux, it's not likly.  windows normaly has a hardwired backup dns server when the dns from the isp fails.  linux has that option if you implement it17:47
reisioand /join #windows works fine17:47
linuxx44reisio: or join pls i hawe no choice17:48
reisiolinuxx44: hrmm?17:48
simonorMore likely them pesky Russians compromised the host.17:48
Fuchsreisio: in plenty of cases it doesn't, hence the remark :)17:48
reisioFuchs: in all cases it's your mess and not mine17:49
linuxx44lol russians :D17:49
linuxx44in there we blame a,merica for that :D17:50
DJones!ot | Fuchs reisio17:50
ubottuFuchs reisio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:50
reisioDJones: stop spamming me17:51
kazdaxokay so i got the linux booted up17:51
linuxx44anyway i prefer chrooted linux ower livecd :D17:51
simonorOh well. Cheerio chaps. Just time for the pub before Doctor Who.17:51
* reisio rolls eyes17:52
linuxx44ofcorse on linux livecd17:52
kazdaxokay when it says looking up us.undernet.org17:52
kazdaxit to needs a DNS server to resolve to the IP ?17:52
kazdaxthats why the irc wont connect17:52
slyrushuh. should I be using autofs instead of fstab/etc...?17:52
sacarlson1kazdax: yes you simply add another backup dns to /etc/resolv.conf  like windows has17:53
kazdaxso i have no idea what to do ..its pinging 8.8.8.8 but it wont ping anything else ..i put back the 8.8.8.8 as the dns server but no use17:53
Xriva18707hours back I posted a Q about PHP (LAMP Ubuntu Trusty Server) not finding PHPINFO test file - I'm just posting the answer in case anyone needs it.17:53
kazdaxokay ill do that17:53
linuxx44and sometimes if i need windowx i use pexps or win on images (some kind of chrooted system )17:53
kazdax8.8.8.4 can be used as a backup dns ?17:53
Xriva18707Trusty version uses /var/www/html  rather than /var/www for the Apache DocumentRoot17:53
sacarlson1kazdax: most good dhcp servers will provide at least one backup dns server.  some crapy ones just provide one17:53
reisioXriva18707: <?php phpinfo(); ?> isn't it?17:53
Xriva18707so - I had the test file is the wrong location17:54
sacarlson1kazdax: i think it's 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.417:54
jhutchins_wksacarlson1: It depends on the admin who set up the server.17:54
Xriva18707@ r - yes - that's it -but this version needs it in a different location17:54
Xriva18707than earlier distros17:54
OerHeksCreate following test.php script in your /var/www/html directory17:54
OerHekshave been there as long as i remember17:55
sacarlson1jhutchins_wk: or the manufacture of the adsl router as most of them don't have admin17:55
Xriva18707@ OH - yes that's what I eventually did - all set now17:55
jhutchins_wkXriva18707: I think apache has always defaulted to /var/www/html.  /var/www also has cgi-bin in it.17:55
blockywhen i set the default sound output device (so google-chrome's audio gets redirected) to HDMI instead of my laptop speakers, what is actually happening in the system (ie. how can i script it)17:55
kazdaxoaky so just add the ip address in resolve.conf ?17:56
kazdaxdammit17:56
sacarlson1kazdax: now what?17:57
reisioblocky: how're you setting it?17:57
jhutchins_wkkazdax: resolv.conf gets overwritten if you run dhcp, look at dhcp.conf17:58
kazdaxi just add the ip addresses into the conf file ?17:58
kazdaxwell dhcp is automatic17:58
dreampwnzorhi, is there a channel for world of warcraft on linux? because #wow is very empty :/17:59
sacarlson1kazdax: yes but that will only last as long as you don't reconect on your network or if you reboot.  for permanent change you will have to modify another file.  but good to try first17:59
EriC^^dreampwnzor: try ##wow maybe17:59
kazdaxyea i added it into the resolv.conf file but it isnt working17:59
roothi18:00
dreampwnzorEriC^^: that's what i was saying, yea18:00
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jhutchins_wkkazdax: THere's a format for prepend, append, or override.18:00
Guest11272what are you talking about?18:00
dreampwnzorEriC^^: xchat nicely redirects to ## channels :)18:00
kazdaxbecause it has a name server18:00
kazdaxand it has18:00
kazdaxnameserve <IPADDRESS>18:00
sacarlson1kazdax: you added it as what?   it should be an added line as nameserver 8.8.8.8   and it will be order sensitive as to what is tried first18:00
jhutchins_wkkazdax: man dhclient.conf18:00
linuxx44azdax:  if it doesnt ping anything else probably the ip pinging is the router afain in so,me cases18:01
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jhutchins_wkkazdax: Changing resolv.conf will work until dhcp renews.18:01
Guest11272Are you guys hackers?18:01
TJ-I have a 14.04 server with MD RAID-1 (mirror) that, since a dist-upgrade today, drops to the "grub rescue>" prompt because GRUB's core image doesn't include the correct modules needed for mdraid1x to find the MD array, which is a whole disk with 4 'msdos' partitions, such that (md/0,1) is "/boot". After extensive testing it appears that an underlying module is required for 'raid1x' to see the RAID array (md/0,[...UUID...]), but so far I've not been able to identif18:01
TJ-y which18:01
kazdaxyea but even that isnt working jhutchins18:01
OerHeks!hacker18:01
ubottuA hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer  -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy18:01
kazdaxso i dont see why i need to work with dhcp.confi right now18:01
Fuchsdreampwnzor: I'd guess that would be more on quakenet than here18:01
jhutchins_wkGuest11272: This is user support for Ubuntu Linux.18:01
dreampwnzorFuchs: thanks, i'll check18:02
Fuchsdreampwnzor: if you think there is something on freenode, you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm..  But I doubt it. See  http://searchirc.com instead18:02
Ceeis there a good program to use to clean up my linux box?18:03
EriC^^dreampwnzor: #wowace is bigger18:03
bubbasauresCee, clean up what?18:03
blockyreisio: right click sound icon in systray, settings, when the HDMI is connected i get a second option in the list of output devices called HDMI, and when i select that, audio goes to the HDMI. when i unplug the hdmi, it disappears from the list but i still have to go back and set the system speakers output again18:03
Ceei've been screwing around with different programs trying to get them all installed the way i want them.18:03
kazdaxokai need to do namesever and then the ip address18:03
FuchsCee: for that you'd need to define "clean up". There was a janitor that did some stuff, but "clean up" is rather vague.18:03
dreampwnzorEriC^^: thanks man :)18:03
EriC^^dreampwnzor: no problem :)18:03
Ceeremove junk files, 1/2 installed programs, etc18:04
Ceei already use bleachbit.18:04
sacarlson1kazdax: if it ends up working then you can make it permanent by adding the ip /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  here18:04
reisioblocky: it's either changing something for pulseaudio or alsa or both, both have commandline controllers18:04
kazdaxits not working18:04
kazdaxdo you think i just reinstall the whole sytsem ?18:05
sacarlson1kazdax: how is it now working.  dig yahoo.com  what dns server is it using?18:05
FuchsCee: well, you can remove no longer referenced / needed packages with apt get's autoremove, but if you installed them manually, there is not much to do, really18:06
ParameziusHello, i installed 14.04 on my asus eeepc 1011px18:06
Fuchsaside from "by hand", or the more drastic solutions like saving your configurations and files in $HOME and the package list, then re-installing based on that.18:06
kazdax; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu <<>> yahoo.com18:06
kazdax;; global options: +cmd18:06
kazdax;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached18:06
kazdaxi added it as18:06
kazdaxnameserver 8.8.8.818:06
kazdaxand name sever 8.8.4.418:06
kazdaxnamesever 8.8.4.418:06
reisioParamezius: hi18:07
sacarlson1kazdax:  dig @8.8.8.8 google.com18:07
bekkskazdax: Where did you add that?18:07
kazdaxin resolv.conf18:07
Parameziust seems to be ok but i can't use the bightness buttons and sound buttons. The bightness ones gent the message on the screen as if they were working bt nothing happens. The sound ones desn't work at all18:07
bekksThat setting will be overwritten regularly.18:07
sacarlson1kazdax: dig is a dns tester18:07
bekkskazdax: When using network-manager, you have to configure that in network-manager.18:07
kazdax; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu <<>> @8.8.8.8 google.com18:08
kazdax; (1 server found)18:08
kazdax;; global options: +cmd18:08
kazdax;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached18:08
kazdaxohh perhahs thats the problem then bekks18:08
bekkskazdax: Of course it is.18:08
kazdaxdo i use a , <-- to seperate DNS addresses ?18:09
Mendax1so why hasnt the rest of the world caught on to the whole linux thing18:09
* OerHeks thinks it is an VM problem18:09
Mendax1and i am talking about the personal computer department18:09
BluesKajMendax1, lack of interest and knowledge18:09
sacarlson1kazdax: bekks that's a good idea maybe look at changing it in network-manager.  I'm used to disabling network-manager as it caused me so many problems with what I do18:10
Mendax1Slaves know similar tidings18:10
Ceedigital divide <<< why the world doesnt use linux18:10
Ceepeople have a hard enough time using windwos18:10
Ceewindows*18:10
kazdaxcan you play all the computer games ona a linux mendax ?18:11
Mendax1digital divide im guessing is the official term to use18:11
BluesKajMendax1, some ppl try linux and if they have a small glitch of any sort they're back to windows18:11
Mendax1is it not?18:11
Ceeno @kazdax18:11
kazdaxokay its not working18:11
Ceeunless you use a virtual machine18:11
kazdaxright18:11
Ceeor a game that is compatible with Wine18:11
TJ-kazdax: What are you trying to do? By default Network Manager uses a private instance of dnsmasq to handle DNS, listening on 127.0.1.1. If NM isn't managing the particular interface then the resolver is set via "/etc/network/interfaces" (and the run-parts fragments) using "dns-nameservers {address}[, address} ...", otherwise NM will periodically update resolv.conf via resolvconf18:11
emigrant-ntbhello, would upgrade help to avoid that bug with nvidia 3331.38 proprietary driver and wine 1.6 ? Thank you18:12
kazdaxyea but right now resolv.conif has the values in it..so it should work for the time being18:12
kazdaxbeing that the dns servers arnt working18:12
Mendax1ahhh the old boot loader errors18:12
Mendax1*those were the days18:13
kazdaxi dont want to make it permanent yet ...since its not working18:13
Mendax1when the world was still round18:13
TJ-kazdax: Is routing correct? Is the system able to ping the remote DNS servers?18:13
Mendax1personal routing18:13
Mendax1?18:13
`nik`hi, in ubuntu 14, the ntp service stops at random times18:14
`nik`i have to do 'service ntp restart' all the time18:14
Mendax1or routing that is done by a layer 3 switch18:14
`nik`anyone else seeing this behavior?18:14
sacarlson1TJ-: kazdax was able to ping 8.8.8.8 before yes18:14
kazdaxare you saying it can change refresh the values in memory ..so each time i am doing cat /etc/resolv.conf its using something in memory and what i see on disk isbt whats being used in memory18:14
TJ-sacarlson1: kazdax: thanks ... so can you also do "dig ubuntu.com @8.8.8.8" ?18:14
Mendax1are you guys talking about custom DNS18:15
Mendax1?18:15
TJ-`nik`Any clues in "/var/log/syslog" ?18:15
kazdaxyes tJ it pings the dns server18:15
sacarlson1TJ-: kazdax  ya try dig @8.8.8.8 ubuntu.com18:15
kazdaxno i cant do dig18:16
kazdaxlet me try it agin18:16
TJ-kazdax: Try the command I gave you - that tells 'dig' which DNS server to query, rather than using the local resolver18:16
kazdaxit says conection timed out18:16
TJ-kazdax: So it *is* a routing issue then18:16
Mendax1play xboix a lot kazdax?18:17
TJ-kazdax: Firewall ?18:17
kazdaxno firewalls18:17
TJ-!ot | Mendax118:17
ubottuMendax1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:17
kazdaxnot that i know if this fresh ubuntu install has firewalls18:17
Rockolahello guys18:17
TJ-kazdax: Firewall rules in routers?18:17
Mendax1what is the deal18:17
Rockolahowz Ubuntu 14.10 ?18:17
kazdaxTJ the linux is on a virtual machine if that helps18:17
Mendax1you have to connect to the router via com port18:17
Rockolaanyone tested Ubuntu 14.10 ?18:18
Mendax1why would we18:18
TJ-kazdax: Is the default gateway set correctly? What does "ip route show" report for "default" ?18:18
Mendax1when enterprises such as arch are about18:18
bubbasauresRockola, Many, do you have a specific issue?18:18
TJ-kazdax: Ahhhhh! What hypervisor is it?18:18
kazdaxvmware ?18:19
sacarlson1TJ-: I would have to assume that the route is ok with ping 8.8.8.8 ok.18:19
Rockolabubbasaures: i dont have any issues.. im just asking if you found any bugs ?18:19
TJ-sacarlson1: I've learned assumption is the mother of all headaches in networking :)18:19
TJ-sacarlson1: It could be te hypervisor is doing DNS relay but firewalling everything else18:19
bubbasauresRockola, Not a valid question really,bug or bugs affect some not another, not really answerable.18:20
sacarlson1TJ-: we fail to get the info about dig @8.8.8.8 google.com18:20
kazdaxokay how do i know whatt he default gateway is ?18:20
Fuchskazdax: route -n    will show it18:20
TJ-kazdax: Is the default gateway set correctly? What does "ip route show" report for "default" ?18:20
bubbasauresRockola, In 8 years of use I have never posted a bug.18:21
sushithhow to make iso from installed ubuntu?18:21
linuxx44Mendax1 b ecause linux is repreenting freedom alot18:21
kazdaxhmm18:21
kazdaxwell18:21
kazdaxit has a gateway address here18:22
kazdaxthe default being the most above one ?18:22
TJ-kazdax: "default" route is the one used if there isn't a more specific route18:22
linuxx44or human soul is not programmed to live <as parasite or slave directly :D but indirectly it is :D18:22
hackelWhy might the Terminal drop-down be greyed out when I'm upgrading 14.04-14.10?18:22
bazhanglinuxx44, take the chat elsewhere18:23
kazdaxokay it does have  gateway18:23
bekkskazdax: Which one?18:23
TJ-kazdax: With VMs it will often be the hypervisor via a virtual bridge, or a PNAT-ed masquerading connection18:23
linuxx44kazdax: you passed to level 2 in resolving the proble,m :D18:23
sacarlson1TJ-: yes it will maybe be something like 10.0.2.218:24
kazdaxno here its starting with 19218:24
TJ-kazdax: Can the hypervisor host successfully do "dig ubuntu.com @8.8.8.8" ?18:24
sushithhelloo, anyone please tellme, how to make iso from installed ubuntu?18:24
kazdaxwell the host is working18:24
kazdaxthats what i am using currently18:24
TJ-kazdax: OK ... so the issue is in the hypvisor configuration from everything you have told us so far18:25
bekkskazdax: Whats the gateway address you can see?18:25
Rockolabubbasaures: poda punda18:25
bekksWhy do we have to guess it?18:25
kazdax192.168.153.218:25
EriC^^sushith: do you mean that you want to make an iso you can extract to another pc?18:25
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bekkskazdax: Which hypervisor do you use? virtualbox?18:26
Rockolabubbasaures: dai baadu18:26
kazdaxvmware18:26
bekkskazdax: Which vmware?18:26
Rockolabubbasaures: othaa pundaa paiyyaa.. pesu da18:26
linuxx44getaway  and netmAsk should match  router settings18:26
Ceean imaging program. @sushith18:26
bekkslinuxx44: Only for bridged mode.18:26
kazdax10 i think18:26
bekkskazdax: Which vmware _product_? Player, Workstation, Fusion?18:26
kazdaxyea its 1018:27
kazdaxworkstation18:27
kazdaxbut the thing is ..it was working just fine18:27
Rockola--------------------------------------------- OTHAA PUNDAAA ----------------------------------------------------------18:27
bekkskazdax: And which networking mode did you configure for your vm?18:27
kazdaxand i dint install anything or reebot18:27
kazdaxNAT18:27
Ceeclonezilla works fine. you'll want to use an external hard drive to save the image.18:27
bekkskazdax: So which IP does your guest have?18:28
Ceeor a flash drive if you have one large neough18:28
kazdax192.168.153.13918:28
bekkskazdax: So did you configure 8.8.8.8 as DNS using network-manager?18:28
sacarlson1kazdax: in all I see you wrote so far I still fail to see the results of dig @8.8.8.8 google.com or similar.  did I miss that some place?18:28
kazdaxyes18:28
kazdaxno it said no cnnection sacarlson118:29
fribi needed to change a username so i just added the new user and changed the old home folder to the new username but cannot login to desktop environment anymore.  can login to console fine.  what should i do? thanks18:29
bekkskazdax: can you even ping 8.8.8.8 from your vm?18:29
Fuchsfrib: check the permissions of said home folder18:29
kazdaxyes i can bekks18:29
Fuchsfrib: they are very likely to be wrong. Make a backup, then do a recursive chown  (chown -R) on the folder to hand it to the right user18:30
kazdax; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu <<>> @8.8.8.8 google.com18:30
kazdax; (1 server found)18:30
kazdax;; global options: +cmd18:30
kazdax;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached18:30
kazdaxsacarl that above18:30
bekkskazdax: and whats the entire, unchanged, full output of "dig @8.8.8.8 google.com"?18:30
kazdaxyes18:30
bekksah ok.18:30
Fuchsfrib: commands would be:  cd /home; cp -R putnameoffolderhere putnameoffolderhere-backup;  chown -R yourusername putnameoffolderhere18:30
kazdaxit did start to work for a moment when i put the new dns in the network manager18:30
kazdaxbut then it went back doing nothing18:30
Fuchs(Careful with chown / chmod -R, can't be undone, hence the backup. Note that this will take quite some space)18:31
sushith EriC^^: not exactly, my  question is is it possible to make iso from installed ubuntu, my friend asked  me for installing ubuntu on his machine.!18:31
bekkskazdax: So show us the content of your /etc/resolv.conf file18:31
sushithEriC^^: i dont have ubuntu iso with me.18:31
EriC^^sushith: well do you want to have the exact setup? or he has win and he wants to dual boot?you could image the hdd and get the exact setup ( partitions and everything ) otherwise i think you want to create some kind of bootable installable iso18:31
fribFuchs, thanks that seems to be the problem only that chown is excluding the files that begin with "."18:32
kazdaxhmm wel it seems its updated and the stuff i put in is gone18:32
kazdaxbt now it has18:32
kazdaxsearch localdomain 8.8.8.818:32
bekkskazdax: So you did not enter 8.8.8.8 in the correct place in network-manager.18:32
Fuchsfrib: shouldn't if you do a recursive chown on the folder containing them, really. Else you can do that manually, the problematic ones are probable .ICE* and .Xauthority18:32
LinnakHi, I'd like to know which desktop environment has the gnome fallback or gnome 2 mode? Unity or Gnome?18:32
fribFuchs, i used -R flag18:32
bekkskazdax: Please enter 8.8.8.8 as nameserver in network-manager, not as search domain.18:32
Fuchsfrib: and you did that on the home folder, not on * inside it or something like that, right?18:33
reisioLinnak: just use mate-desktop if you want GNOME 218:33
fribappears chown -R /home/user/.[^.]* is the necessary command18:33
kazdax# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)18:33
kazdax#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN18:33
kazdaxnameserver 127.0.1.118:33
kazdaxsearch localdomain 8.8.8.818:33
kazdaxnameserver 8.8.8.818:33
kazdaxnameserver 8.8.4.418:33
unopastekazdax you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted18:33
LinnakI dont like that wide start menu18:33
bekkskazdax: Remove that 8.8.8.8 from the search domain - in network-manager.18:33
Fuchsfrib: that should not be needed, but feel free to do that.18:34
TJ-kazdax: ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached" tells us dig cannot directly connect to the DNS server over UDP, so if "ping 8.8.8.8" works ICMP is getting through but UDP is not - which points to a firewall issue18:34
sacarlson1TJ-:  I have to think there must have been a typo in the dig @8.8.4.4 google.com or something otherwise why would it sometimes work?18:35
kazdaxcan you see me ?18:35
Linnakreisio: as I on some screenshot not every menu is that wide what I remember18:35
OerHeksTJ-,  could be a VM issue too18:35
kazdaxit never worked sacral18:35
LinnakI remember this: http://www.securitronlinux.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/configuration-editor.jpeg18:35
kazdaxthe dig command18:35
kazdaxit always said that it wasnt connected ..18:36
kazdaxokay so how do i disable the firewall ?18:36
Linnakbcan this one style to be sat? http://ubuntuportal.com/wp-content/uploads/MATE-Desktop-1.2-How-to-Install-MATE-Desktop-in-Ubuntu-12.04-and-Ubuntu-11.10.jpg18:36
sacarlson1kazdax: you said at some points you browser would work then stop18:36
kazdaxyea18:36
kazdaxthe broswer not dig18:36
kazdaxanyways i get what you mean18:36
kazdaxif the broswer works so did dig18:37
sacarlson1kazdax: yes but I just don't understand why the dig @8.8.4.4 yahoo.com or other all fail18:37
bubbasauresLinnak, That is the gnome fallback, it bis in the ubuntu repos.18:37
bubbasauresis*18:37
kazdaxits not resolving DNS18:37
kazdaxi can ping to the dns server thou18:37
kazdaxbut it cant be used to do resolution18:37
LinnakI just want to know without doing any tweak at logout on Unity or just on Gnome can I choose fallback mode?18:37
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RobinHood2015I'm trying to run "gpg --gen-key", but after following the necessary steps, I get two errors: "gpg: no writable secret keyring found: eof" and "Key generation failed: eof". I've found possible solutions on the Internet, but no matter what I try, the same thing happens to me over and over again... What's wrong here?18:37
kazdaxshould i try adding the ip address of google in the broswer and see if it works ?18:38
sacarlson1kazdax: it's pointless to add and dns to anything if dig @XXXX fails18:38
bubbasauresLinnak, Fallback has to be installed, than chosen at the login.18:39
OerHekskazdax, what do you have als VM host, virtualbox or VMware?18:39
sacarlson1kazdax: you could try 3 or 4 more dns address in dig other than that it must be some kind of network filter in vmware18:39
kazdaxVmware18:39
kazdaxdo you know of any other dns servers ?18:39
Linnakbubbasaures: On both?18:40
kazdaxiam giving up18:40
usr13kazdax: Don't give up!18:41
kazdaxi am just going to reinstall the ubuntu and if it still dosnt work ..then it might have been a vm problem18:41
RobinHood2015Is there in fact no solution?18:41
usr13kazdax: grep nameserver /etc/resolv.conf18:41
fribFuchs, fluxbox is not using the right username can't find keys file etc.  is there a way to just change all instances of the old username with the new one?18:41
usr13kazdax: What does that say?18:41
kazdaxnameserver 127.0.1.118:42
usr13kazdax: sudo dhclient eth018:42
bubbasauresLinnak, Have you installed any other desktops than unity be there on the install?18:42
sacarlson1kazdax: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/a/free-public-dns-servers.htm  or dig @8.20.247.20 yahoo.com18:42
LinnakA couple. Yes18:43
kazdaxRTNETLINK answers: File exists18:43
usr13kazdax: Do you have your VM's networking set to bridged?18:43
sacarlson1my original thoght was that you have a problem with dnsmasq  but that can not be if dig @8.20.247.20 yahoo.com fails18:43
bazhang!info gnome-session-fallback | Linnak18:44
ubottuLinnak: gnome-session-fallback (source: gnome-panel): GNOME Session Manager - GNOME Flashback (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.8.1-2ubuntu4 (utopic), package size 2 kB, installed size 257 kB18:44
RobinHood2015...I get the point.18:44
kazdaxno its18:44
kazdaxNAT18:44
bazhangLinnak, install that and choose once you have logged out then back in18:44
usr13kazdax: Change to bridged18:44
LinnakI install bopth and I will see than18:44
Linnakboth18:44
david38400Is this the right channel for queries on Ubuntu 14.04 bluetooth problems ????18:44
bubbasauresLinnak, Not sure what you mean by "On both?" use nicks on every post to please.18:44
LinnakUbuntu Gnome or the "normal" Ubuntu with Unity18:45
kazdaxyea sacarl dig fails18:45
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bazhangLinnak, neither18:45
david38400Any help on setting up bluetooth please? Ubuntu 14.04????????18:45
kazdaxdid you ntoie that the address was18:45
sacarlson1kazdax: at this point I don't think ping 8.8.8.8 even works as18:45
usr13kazdax: Do you have it set to bridged now?18:45
kazdax127.0.1.1 ? for the naemserver18:45
kazdaxint that fishy18:45
kazdaxyes18:45
kazdaxihave usr18:45
usr13kazdax: sudo dhclient eth018:45
bazhangLinnak, install the package above18:46
kazdaxits working now18:46
usr13kazdax: Ok, good.18:46
LinnakWhat is the difference between gnome-fallback and gnome-classic-session?18:46
kazdaxso the rpoblem is in the NAT configuration ?18:46
kazdaxwhat was t reason i choose NAT18:46
sacarlson1kazdax: so it only works with dnsmasq then  so dig @127.0.1.1 yahoo.com works18:46
kazdaxi think because of security ?18:46
bazhang!info gnome-classic-session18:47
ubottuPackage gnome-classic-session does not exist in utopic18:47
MonkeyDustkazdax  i havent followed? NAT issue in vmware?18:47
bazhangLinnak, one does not exist18:47
kazdaxwell i had my connection to the vmware as a NAT network18:47
kazdaxwhich was working fine MonekyDusk ..so now i switched to bridge18:47
kazdaxbut since i am doing malware anayslsis ..i dont want anything jumping out of my linux into my windows18:47
MonkeyDustkazdax  change NAT to bridged, to make a logical bridge to your existing network18:47
kazdaxwindows host18:47
kazdaxi thought NAT protected from my vm to physically know the IP of the host18:48
sacarlson1kazdax: oh bridged so vmware nat is mest up some how18:48
Jon31i tried using openvpn.. it's easy to setup on ubuntu server but it's hard to connect to it.. it needs a client and stuff... is there a better solution? something that is easier to connect to?18:48
bekksMore likely the comfiguration of his guest OS is messed up.18:48
david38400Bluetooth ih Ubuntu 14.04 seems to be giving problems like I am having and need help to reset it up18:48
david38400Any offers please?18:48
usr13david38400: What...18:49
kazdaxso there are security rish not using NAT ?18:49
usr13kazdax: No18:49
david38400usr13, think we spoke earlier. Hi again.  I have removed all bluetooth and reinstalled, but not getting anywhere it wont work18:49
kazdaxokay thanks guys18:50
usr13david38400: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/128300318:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 1283003 in Ubuntu "[Bluetooth + 14.04] Bluetooth headsets are not working after last couple of updates" [High,Confirmed]18:50
kazdaxit took a while but it was better than reinstalling ubuntu18:50
sacarlson1kazdax: it's been fun18:50
kazdaxand who knew that would not havr worked18:50
kazdaxyea i think ill hang around in this channel..since i just started playing with ubuntu18:50
kazdaxi am using it as a fake server so i can study malwares18:50
kazdaxanyways thanks for the help .. beem great18:51
david38400usr13, must reboot, will be back18:52
david38400thanks18:52
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david38400usr13, Hi again. I seem to have reinstalled bluetooth and have the icon on the top bar of my laptop. It has all my devices and when I click one it turns the device on. The music comes from the monitor and then the icon appears with a lock? This is strange18:57
david38400usr13, Normally change the sound settings on the device, but nothing happens, its seems to be locked18:58
sacarlson1david38400: i think there are also command line methods that might show more info as to why it doesn't work18:59
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david38400usr13, cant understand why I cant just unlock the bluetooth. Does anyone know how to easily do this=19:00
MonkeyDustdavid38400  tip: use blueman19:00
sacarlson1david38400: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/96693/connect-to-a-bluetooth-device-via-terminal19:01
david38400usr13, When I ask to set up a new device it stays in grey and doesnt do anything. I think its because its locked19:01
david38400MonkeyDust, will ltlry19:01
david38400MonkeyDust, blueman doesnt work either19:02
david38400MonkeyDust, sacarlson1 Nothing of help. Until I can get rid of the padlock on the icon I wont be able to do anything. Suppose have to take my desktop in to the computer shop if nobody can help19:05
sacarlson1david38400: command line doesn't see any gui locks19:05
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fribi changed the name of my user and now any keyboard shortcut in fluxbox that uses the "Exec" command won't work.  what could be causing that?19:06
sacarlson1david38400: the gui just performs a sequence of command lines that you see no results from19:06
solsTiCein skype, when in a call with someone I got no pop-up asking me to allow video feed from caller. what could be wrong ?19:06
reisiosolsTiCe: maybe they didn't ask for video19:07
reisiomaybe you're hideous :)19:07
solsTiCecould be that19:07
reisiomaybe they're naked19:07
bekkssolsTiCe: The assumption that using Skype could be right ;)19:07
david38400sacarlson1, its very odd and strange nobody can help to unlock. Should be simple I would have thought19:07
sacarlson1david38400: you seem to think that this locked gui is the only method to control bluetooth19:08
TJ-david38400: What padlock icon are you referring to? The dialog box that appears when you request to do a privileged operation?19:08
sacarlson1david38400: like hcitool scan19:09
jvalentinI've been hanging out with older versions of ubuntu for a while and decided to install 14.04 in a Parallels vm, but it was stuck at 800x600 and all I found on this issue lead me nowhere, so I decided to download and install 13.10.19:09
jvalentinit seems this isn't a supported version19:10
bekksjvalentin: Correct. 13.10 isnt supported anymore.19:10
jvalentinit it still possible to get drivers and needed updates for it?19:10
bekksjvalentin: No, there are no updates anymore for 13.1019:10
jvalentinI'd gladly go back to 14 but I couldn't get it to work correctly in parallels19:10
jvalentinany thoughts on getting the drivers to work?19:11
jvalentinthat is, to get it out of 800x600 mode19:11
bekksjvalentin: 14.04 works fine, even when using a hypervisor. You only chances are 12.04 or 14.0419:11
david38400sacarlson1, no I dont think that, but I have never seen it before, I just think this is causing the problem.19:12
jvalentinbekks: I've read many folks are having issues w/14.04 in arallels19:12
TJ-jvalentin: Within a virtual machine the resolution of the display is dictated by the virtualised graphics adapter the hypervisor presents to the guest. It sounds as if there's a standard VGA or possible VESA device being emulated19:12
bekksjvalentin: Which issues in particular?19:12
david38400TJ-, On the top of my desktop where the icons are there is the bluetooth icon that always been there, now all of a sudden it has a padlock at the side19:12
david38400and I cant use it19:12
jvalentinbekks: it's stuck at 800x60019:13
TJ-david38400: Sounds as if you've enabled the RFKILL switch - at a terminal do "rfkill list" and tell us what it reports for the Bluetooth radio19:13
bekksjvalentin: 14.04 is stuck at 800x600?19:13
Novice201yHello. Where is channel to talk about Linux (kernel)?19:13
TJ-Novice201y: ##kernel19:14
Novice201yTJ-: Thanks.19:14
jvalentinbekks: yes, exactl19:14
david38400TJ-, Tried that and nothing blocked....... I am getting frustrated now19:14
bekksjvalentin: And which release are you on, currently?19:14
david38400sacarlson1, Terminal tells me no such command hcitool scan19:15
jvalentinbekks: Parallels 9 with ubuntu 14.0419:16
ahsmhey guys can someone please help me? :)19:16
david38400Have to give up guys. Thanks19:16
bekksjvalentin: Hmm, you said you were on 13.10 initially.19:16
TJ-david38400: The padlock icon indicates a device is paired: see bug #131121119:16
ubottubug 1311211 in indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth icon has a padlock emblem when paired with device" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131121119:16
ahsmi have a lenovo t420s and the touchpad does not work  at all19:17
sacarlson1david38 might have needed this sudo apt-get install bluez-tools19:17
TJ-sacarlson1: according to the bug report it simply means a device is paired... the 'bug' is the confusing icon19:17
sacarlson1TJ-: so they don't have an option to unpair?  oh or maybe on the other side reset19:18
jvalentinbekks: sorry, my point for being on 13.10 was that 14.04 is giving issues with the resolution that I haven't been able to resolve, so I downgraded (installed to another parallels vm)19:19
bekksjvalentin: So what are you using now - 13.10 or 14.04ß19:19
labsinWhy is mtp moved to universe? I can no longer connect my phone on a fresh Ubuntu install (14.10)19:20
bekkslabsin: So install it?19:21
labsinbekks, yes19:21
Fuchsfrib: well, you could do a recursive grep in your home to see where that is the case19:21
sacarlson1TJ-: if they ever return maybe the can try bluez-test-device remove XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX  to unpair bluetooth19:21
reisiolabsin: same reason anything is, I suspect19:22
TJ-labsin: which part of MTP, mtp-tools has been in Universe since Raring at least19:22
sacarlson1or bt-device -r xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx19:22
labsinbekks, the packages mtpfs and mtp-tools are no longer installed by default. And are non working. It's missing .mtpz-data19:22
jvalentinbekks: I have both installed in separate vm, currently I am running the 13.10 vm, but I still have the 14.04 vm and will gladly switch back to it if I can get this reolution bug fixed19:22
bekksjvalentin: Sztart the 14.04 vm and install the Parallel Tools - done.19:23
fribFuchs, i just created a new home directory for the new user to auto-generate any config files19:23
jvalentinbekks: tried that, didn't work19:23
labsinBefore it was: plug in the phone and it gets mounted. But's thats no longer the case19:23
fribonly problem now is that ":Exec" commands in fluxbox shortcuts won't work19:23
bekksjvalentin: Define "didnt work" please.19:23
Fuchsfrib: are you sure they aren't pointing at something relative to your old user name/home? Hence the grep idea.19:24
jvalentinbekks: after instlaling parallels tools, there was no difference in the video resolution19:24
rypervenchelabsin: If you're looking to transfer files, I have always found SSH to work better on Android phones.19:24
bekksjvalentin: Did you check which driver was/is active?19:24
Fuchsfrib: also running the tools manually and checking your ~/.xsession-errors  would be a start19:24
labsinrypervenche, I used adb pull for now19:24
labsinIt just worked before and now it stopped working. That's not very nice19:25
jvalentinbekks: I can't recall the command line check for that, would you know it off hand?19:25
fribFuchs, no config files contain the old username, confirmed by grep19:25
fribFuchs, i also added new user to all groups same as old user19:26
friband relogged19:26
bekksjvalentin: lspci -k19:26
Fuchsfrib: anything in the mentioned log file?19:26
fribFuchs, xsession errors mentions there not being a .Xmodmap file19:27
Fuchsfrib: that should not be an issue, really19:27
Fuchsfrib: can I see an example exec line that doesn't work, assuming there is nothing else in the .xsession-errors19:27
fribFuchs, Mod4 o :Exec nautilus --no-desktop19:28
Fuchsfrib: if you start that command in a shell (without the exec line), what happens?19:29
jvalentinbekks:  VGA compatible controller: Parallels, Inc. Accelerated Virtual Video Adapter19:29
fribFUchit works19:29
Fuchsfrib: also according to xev, is the modifier key working?19:29
bekksjvalentin: thats not the only line of output.19:30
fribFuchs, the modifier keys work for commands that done use "Exec"19:30
jvalentinbekks: no, thought that was the one you'd want, there were many but didn't think I should post them here. Should I pastebin it all?19:30
Fuchsfrib: that certainly is interesting. Can you pastebin the whole ~/.xsession-errors, please? Plus your fluxbox keys file.19:30
bekksjvalentin: you should use a pastebin service :)19:31
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fribe.g. Mod1 119 :Exit will log out no problem, but Mod1 F1 :Exec x-terminal-emulator will not open a terminal19:31
Shiggitayhello all19:31
fribkeys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/867630419:32
fribxsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/867631119:32
ShiggitayIs there any way I can get an Ubuntu live USB to boot on my tablet? it's a Quantum View.. it's stuck on 32bit uEFI firmware....19:32
Fuchsfrib: I was mainly talking about Mod419:33
jvalentinbekks: http://pastebin.com/faxgNVsq19:33
fribFuchs, the modifier keys are confirmed working for commands w/o "Exec"19:33
fribit's only shell commands that are giving the new user problems19:34
Fuchsfrib: right. Does it work when instead of the command you place the full path there,19:34
Fuchse.g. /usr/bin/nautilus19:34
Fuchsif yes: check $PATH of your new user19:34
fribill try19:34
fribFuchs, the full path does not work, and the path $PATH looks fine19:36
bekksjvalentin: It is using the correct driver - just go into the settings and check the resolutions you can set.19:36
fribi.e. includes /usr/bin and other standard directories for binaries19:36
Fuchsfrib: you did restart fluxbox or send it SIGUSR1/2 after modifying the keys file, right?19:36
Fuchsfrib:  if yes as well: very odd, I'd ask #fluxbox19:36
fribFuchs, did restart fluxbox.  don't know what SIGUSR1/2 is19:36
Fuchsa signal one can send with kill, but don't mind, if you restarted19:37
fribthey never respond in #fluxbox :(19:38
jvalentinbekks: it only shows 800x60019:38
fribno other choice though i guess. thanks for the help19:38
jvalentinbekks: any idea how to get the display settings to show more than just 800x600?19:46
bekksjvalentin: Resize the vm window?19:47
kazdax_make it fullscreen19:47
kazdax_if its vmware19:47
kazdax_it will fit to the full size of the screen being used19:47
bekksIt isnt vmware. It is Parallels.19:47
jvalentinbekks: I have it fullscreen, but that doesn't effect the resolution19:47
kazdax_whats the resolution set in the guest ?19:48
bekkskazdax_: 800x600.19:49
bekksjvalentin: How exactly did you install the Parallel Tools?19:50
jvalentinkazdax_: if fits to the full screen, but the resolution doesn't change19:50
kazdax_why not just increase the resolution in the guest19:51
jvalentinbekks: I didn't, this computer was given to me with it installed, I don't know if it was downloaded or installed from an image19:51
Kaese7Question: A file in /home/user1 has the permission 777. But if I browse with user2 through /home/user2 I can't remove this file. Why?19:51
bekksjvalentin: Reinstall the Parallels Tools.19:51
Kaese7*with user2 through /home/user119:51
bekkskazdax_: Thats what doesnt work. Thats why he is asking.19:51
ArchZombieI have a problem19:51
jvalentinbekks: ok, I'll try that, but I will say that in ubuntu 13.10, it works fine19:51
ArchZombiehow do I configure the mouse settings19:52
ArchZombiexinput doesn't seem to show this?19:52
kazdax_okay then perhaps what you need are the tools19:52
ArchZombieIs it not possible to use the xinput mode on ubuntu?19:52
kazdax_because its the same thing with vmware19:52
bekksjvalentin: 13.10 is out of interest, because unsupported.19:52
jvalentinkazdax_: I tried the tools, no dice19:52
bekkskazdax_: Thats what I told hgim half an hour ago. Please read up.19:52
bekksjvalentin: You did not try to reinstall the tools yet, as you just said.19:52
jvalentinI may just have to go down to 12.0419:53
jvalentinbummed19:53
bekksjvalentin: You have to reinstall the tools.19:53
kazdax_he says he already did that19:53
bekksHe didnt.19:53
bekkskazdax_: Read up please.19:53
kazdax_* xSmurf (~MrSmurf@gateway/tor-sasl/mrsmurf) has joined ##re19:53
kazdax_<warchild> but in terms of understanding the machine and making it do what you want it to, at a basic level i think they are related19:53
kazdax_<kazdax_> yea colledge level CS is basiclly to prepare you to be able to pic up new technologies19:53
kazdax_<kazdax_> but i like the idea of CS19:53
kazdax_<kazdax_> computer science the other degrees like btech and other software focused degrees are meant as quik money making schemes19:53
kazdax_<warchild> it depends on where you go honestly19:53
unopastekazdax_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted19:53
ArchZombieUbuntu sucks.19:54
ArchZombieWhy does dbus reimplement xinput?19:54
kazdax_<jvalentin> kazdax_: I tried the tools, no dice19:54
bekkskazdax_: " jvalentin> bekks: I didn't, this computer was given to me with it installed, I don't know if it was downloaded or installed..."19:55
kazdax_well then he has 2 heads i suppose19:55
bekkskazdax_: Could you please refrain from bringing even more irritation into his issue.19:55
kazdax_jvalentin,  did you install the tools or not ?19:56
jvalentinkazdax_: yes I said I did19:57
bekksjvalentin: You said they aready were installed when the vm was handed to you.19:57
bekksjvalentin: So did YOU install the tools or were they installed already?19:57
kazdax_okay shut down the machine..go to the machines setting for the hardware of the display and there choose either fit to full image or increase the resolution there19:57
kazdax_Configuration > Hardware >video19:58
kazdax_and choose scaled19:58
kazdax_and or increase the video memory from the default to like 16 maybe .. and then try fullscreen ..20:00
kazdax_http://kb.parallels.com/en/576520:00
kazdax_that should work by increasing the video ram20:01
kazdax_let me know if it works20:01
XP2https://fsf.org/blogs/community/a-victory-for-free-software-over-the-microsoft-tax20:01
XP2ubuntu FTW20:01
bekksXP2: It doesnt even mention Ubuntu. I dont think it is related to Ubuntu support at all ;)20:02
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TJ-bug #120:04
ubottubug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120:04
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ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:05
jvalentinbekks: I did install the tools, yes20:06
jvalentinI just noticed something, there was no xorg.config files, and I understand that I need to create it, but not sure how20:07
Bashing-omTJ-: Pleased to see that nick " TJ-  " Missed ya !20:08
jvalentinit would seem it has to be specific fo my video card20:08
TJ-Bashing-om: thanks :) .... been focused on heavy landscaping20:09
TJ-I have a 14.04 server with MD RAID-1 (mirror) that, since a dist-upgrade today, drops to the "grub rescue>" prompt because GRUB's core image doesn't include the correct modules needed for mdraid1x to find the MD array, which is a whole disk with 4 'msdos' partitions, such that (md/0,1) is "/boot". After extensive testing it appears that an underlying module is required for 'raid1x' to see the RAID array (md/0,[...UUID...]), but so far I've not been able to identif20:10
TJ-y which20:10
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yecril71plWhich application handles news URL scheme?20:12
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vitimitiHi20:14
RobinHood2015I'm trying to create a .deb package to upload to a PPA using the "bzr dh-make" command. The output is showing the "License:" field as "blank", but I know the package I want to upload carries the GNU GPL v2. How do I tell this to "bzr dh-make"?20:15
Bashing-omTJ-: Not that I would dare try and teach Gramps how to suck eggs, but as a thought -> break points in the grub command line, maybe see where grub fails ?20:16
TJ-Bashing-om: I wish :)  .... stuck as soon as it boots ... can load MBR and core.img but can't find /grub/ (in the /boot/ partition) due to not being able to find the MD RAID-1 device. The whole-disk devices show up under the biosdisk module as (hd0,msdosX) and I can reach the install as (hd0,msdos1)/grub/20:20
RobinHood2015... Anyone?20:20
TJ-Bashing-om: What is weird is, after "set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/grub" and "insmod pata", "ls" will iterate and find the MD device ... so for some reason core.img is missing the inclusion of pata.mod that it wasn't previously20:21
TJ-RobinHood2015: Not used the bzr workflow recently, but I think first you need to manually edit the "debian/control" file20:22
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reisioBashing-om: UEFI woes?20:22
Vexx_Is it possible to have one monitor boot as terminal only and the other monitor boot normally? Ubuntu 14.0420:22
reisioVexx_: what'd be the point20:23
TJ-Bashing-om: The issue seems to be that mdraid1x.mod is unable to find the MD device using the biosdisk driver20:23
Vexx_reisio I'm trying to teach myself to get better at commands.20:23
reisioVexx_: open an X term20:24
RobinHood2015Hmm... Could someone provide me with an example of a debian/control file so I know what I'm working with here?20:24
TJ-Vexx_: Look up "multiseat" - you can configure the X server to only use specific GPUs/outputs20:25
Vexx_tj- Thank you. :)20:25
reisio...20:26
reisioentirely pointless endeavour20:26
TJ-RobinHood2015: Ahhh, sorry, it's "debian/copyright" you need -see https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile20:26
TJ-reisio: Not pointless at all; multi-user systems often have multiple GPUs and heads and are operated that way20:27
reisioit's pointless when he can just open an X term20:28
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Bashing-omTJ-: Being a sounding board here; what raid levels ( fakeraid ?) require that there be a seperate /boot partiton on all participating drives ?20:50
it_hi all20:51
TJ-Bashing-om: Those are orthogonal issues - location of "/boot/" is independent of RAID20:52
TJ-Bashing-om: However, when using Linux's MD RAID with metadata v1.0 or less (which infers the metadata is stored at the end of the block device), BIOS can boot from the raw devices making up the mirror. With MD metadata v1.2 it is at the start of the disk (where MBR has to be), with v1.1 it's offset a short distance from the start of the disk, which (can) interfere with partitioning or file-systems20:55
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TJ-Bashing-om: this looks like a grub bug in biosdisk, since when mdraid1x looks for the v1.0 metadata it cannot find it offset from the end of the disk. Either biosdisk or the system BIOS itself may be misreporting the size of the disk, which would cause such an issue for GRUB's mdraid1x::grub_mdraid_detect() function20:58
TJ-slight correct: metadata v1.1 is at start of device, v1.2 is 4KB from start, v1.0 is up to 12 KB offset from the end of the device20:59
digitsmHello20:59
digitsmI don't know why speed of apt-get is so low?20:59
digitsmI have a 128KB/s internet line and apt-get only downloads with ~30KB/s21:00
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Guest97764is there anyway to undo an rm -rf command?21:00
l0rdn1xlol]21:01
l0rdn1xtestdisk21:01
bekksGuest97764: Restore the files from you backup you've taken before.21:01
CIitMastergood question21:01
digitsmP.S. I chose the fastest mirror from Settings->Software & Updates21:01
geirha!recover | Guest9776421:01
CIitMasteri think bash should have an undo option21:01
ubottuGuest97764: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel21:01
CIitMasterwhos with me?21:02
Fuchsrm is not exactly bash territory.21:02
bekksCIitMaster: Thats not a bash issue, but a filesystem issue. I am against such crap. :)21:02
CIitMastermeh21:02
l0rdn1xGuest97764: load from a live cd, and run testdisk21:02
CIitMasterthats why you need btfs21:02
digitsmbtrfs21:02
CIitMasterbtrfs*21:02
TJ-Guest97764: roll back to the latest snapshot, or back-up21:03
l0rdn1xext4 is good21:03
equipoññ21:03
Guest97764l0rdn1x, it's an external disk21:03
bekksCIitMaster: btrfs doesnt have that feature.21:03
equipoHello everybody21:03
l0rdn1xGuest97764: even better, just run testdisk on that drive it might take awhile21:03
digitsmGuest9776421:03
CIitMasterit has time machine like feture :P21:03
geirhaIf it's ext4, remount it readonly ASAP21:03
bekksCIitMaster: It doesnt.21:03
digitsmGuest97764, what's file system of your deleted drive?21:03
bekksCIitMaster: filesystems snapshots arent how timemachine works.21:03
CIitMasterit does21:03
bekksCIitMaster: It doesnt.21:04
CIitMasterits kinda like time machine21:04
bekksCIitMaster: It isnt.21:04
TJ-CIitMaster: You mean the subvolume snapshots?21:04
CIitMasterbut it would work on this case21:04
CIitMasterpoint set and mach21:04
CIitMaster.21:04
CIitMasteryes snapshoots21:05
digitsmGuest97764, anyway don't write any new data on the deleted partition. It will erase the previous data21:05
cyber37Hi, i am trying to make a PPA, i have make my source package, when i do "dput ppa:c..... ./*.changes" it works, but in my ppa i see 0 updates added during the past month.21:06
digitsmGuest97764, you will be able to recover SOME of your data by recovering apps. the exact app depends on your file system21:06
cyber37What am i missing ?21:06
cyber37http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/ppa/   https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading21:06
Guest97764digitsm, thanks.  via testdisk i was able to find the deleted files and confirm that they weren't the important files i thought they were.  thanks!21:06
TJ-cyber37: check the notification emails; Launchpad will let you know if an upload failed or succeeded21:07
digitsmGuest97764, Good for you21:07
digitsmAnyone knows why apt-get install is so slow?21:07
cyber37thanks i go see TJ21:07
digitsmI am consuming hours to install just some packages21:08
TJ-digitsm: It isn't - there's something unique to the path to the mirror the system is configured to use, or the link itself21:08
digitsmMy internet is not that slow, but apt-get doesn't use my internet to its max speed21:08
kazdax_digitsm does your browser work faster ?21:08
digitsmkazdax_, yeah21:08
Loshkidigitsm: first it downloads, then it installs. Can you tell which phase it's currently in?21:09
FloidTIL that pulling you wlan adapter with the nm-applet dropdown open crashes unity-settings-daemon.  Everything's cool but how do I get compiz to not be stuck on the Ambiance theme until I feel like logging out?21:09
digitsmI even was able to download from that mirror by browser with full speed, but apt is much slower21:09
kazdax_well i had the same problem21:09
FloidI have a feeling compiz --restart has been broken for a year or two now because of something dbus-y.21:09
TJ-digitsm: It might be that the 'fastest' mirror currently isn't - what mirror is the system configured to use?21:09
digitsmLoshki, download of course21:09
kazdax_i think it has to do with mirrors you are using21:09
kazdax_did you just install this ystem digitsm ?21:10
digitsmkazdax_, no, ystem? whats it?21:10
kazdax_i mean was this a new install of ubuntu21:10
digitsmTJ- I chose the fastes mirror from Software & updates21:10
OerHeks!info apt-fast21:11
Loshkidigitsm: you could cancel & restart. You might have to clean up some locks. It will not redownload packages it already has, so there's almost no penalty21:11
ubottuPackage apt-fast does not exist in utopic21:11
TJ-digitsm: But it might not be the fastest now - which mirror is apt using?21:11
jasonwcAnyone have a recommendation for a good GUI monitor for hard drive temperature?  I've got 24 drives and I would like to see the temps.  Also, this link shows a way to change the standby time for hard drives, but i'm not seeing the option - http://askubuntu.com/questions/39760/how-can-i-control-hdd-spin-down-time21:12
digitsmTJ- ooh! this one ubuntu.unitedcolo.de/ubuntu21:12
Loshkidigitsm: "I chose the fastes mirror from Software & updates". I suppose everybody does that. Guess what happens to a server when everyone does that..21:12
digitsmI didn't chose it. Software and Updates chose if for me21:12
digitsmLoshki, Not everyone live the place I live21:13
digitsm:))21:13
equipol21:13
digitsmI live in iran21:13
digitsmI used ir,archive.ubuntu.com but this mirror is down now21:14
Loshkidigitsm: doesn't change my advice. You can also manually download the debs via your browser, since you say that's faster, and hand install them with dpkg -i21:14
digitsmLoshki. Do you think the restart might help?21:15
TJ-digitsm: According to the mirrors list that mirror is 1 day behind: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors21:15
digitsmTJ- what mirror?21:15
digitsmI wish I could use ir.archive.ubuntu.com but it doesn't work21:16
Loshkidigitsm: a restart won't hurt (much) and might help. Tcp connections sometimes pause for long periods if there's congestion.21:17
digitsmLoshki. I am going to restart to see whether it makes apt-get's speed faster?21:17
TJ-digitsm: The mirror ubuntu.unitedcolo.de ... but the "1 day behind" is only for the development version of Ubuntu (Vivid).21:17
Loshkidigitsm: note that by 'restart', I mean typing ctrl-C to apt-get and reissuing the command. Nothing more, ok?21:17
digitsmLoshki. Ooh! I was to near all my system21:18
NirvashCould someone help me route all traffic through tor? I'm reading now, but I'm a bit lost21:18
digitsmLoshki. Ooh! I was near to restart all my system21:18
digitsmLoshki. In that case I should say no, Ctrl-c doesn't make speed better21:19
Loshkidigitsm: a system restart might would work, but it's overkill. If there server is down, or slow, there's nothing you can do on your end.21:20
FloidHuh.  As to my issue compiz --replace actually worked without leaving everything hung and rearranged and without a WM this time.21:20
Loshkidigitsm: uh, nothing you can do except change servers, that is...21:20
reisioFloid: gj21:20
FloidMaybe my bad experiences were with compiz crashes where the dead/zombie blocked the restart properly.21:20
FloidInstead of unity-settings-daemon crashing :P21:20
FloidBut had enough of them to create a massive aversion to just reflexively trying that. ^.^21:21
digitsmLoshki, What server do you suggest me to use?21:22
digitsmIt seems automatically choosing the best server is not a good idea21:22
Floid(Mostly on an AMD A8 or A10 or something box when the fglrx support was quite new and Compiz would find ways to die every 3 days.)21:22
Loshkidigitsm: find a list, ping them, pick the most responsive. Network conditions are like British Weather. Subject to change without notice.21:23
digitsmLoshki. ping only shows delay, not speed21:23
digitsmI want to fastest mirror, not the nearer!21:23
FloidPretend you're getting paid to wait.21:24
Loshkidigitsm: agreed, so download a medium sized file from each server, and choose the fastest. By the way, this method doesn't work for predicting stocks either...21:25
OerHeksdigitsm, go into softwarecenter> sources, and choose the fastest mirror with the build-in tool21:26
LoshkiFloid: excellent21:26
digitsmLoshki, my current server is fast enough. but it's not fast over apt. I don't like to manually download and install packages. This method is messy!21:26
digitsmIt seems I have to trial and error!21:27
Loshkidigitsm: actually, if you use gdebi, you can install a particular manual package and gdebi will fetch the rest from the network. Good for working around problems with individual packages. You did state once that manual downloads work well for you.21:28
TJ-digitsm: Could your ISP or government be filtering the traffic through a transparent HTTP proxy?21:29
FloidOh man, I had so much fun when some jackass put a Sonicwall in at the office that (still) blocks every http request with the word "screensaver" in it.21:30
FloidSo much for dist-upgrades actually completing without fetching ***-screensaver packages on my phone or a shell or whatever.21:31
Novice201yHello. Is it wise to update Linux in Ubuntu 14.10 to 3.17.1?21:31
OerHeksNovice201y, no, unless you can help yourself if you run into issues21:31
LoshkiNovice201y: in my opinion, it isn't wise to run 14.10 at all unless you wish to debug it.21:32
TJ-Floid: Use an HTTPS mirror, such as https://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/21:33
Novice201yOerHeks: I know that there is ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa , but with no activity for last month?21:34
mgolischNovice201y: have any problems with your kernel? or why do you wish to change to a newer version?21:34
TJ-!mainline | Novice201y: The kernel PPA doesn't contain the packages to make the bar to breaking your system higher; you have to manually download them from the archive server21:35
ubottuNovice201y: The kernel PPA doesn't contain the packages to make the bar to breaking your system higher; you have to manually download them from the archive server: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds21:35
Novice201ymgolisch: Because I'm curious ;)21:35
TJ-Novice201y: I have a script that fetches and installs the latest kernels and keeps me current21:35
hsturgillCan anyone give me the line from sources.list that I need for the partners repository (trusty)? I need it for my docker container21:36
Sunstreamupgrading have anyissues?21:36
digitsmLoshki, Hmm. Yeah, manual downloads are very fast. However for my firefox uses downthemall extension which makes 4 connections for every download. I think source of the problem is that apt only makes 1 tcp connection, while manual download makes many. So apt is slow21:36
CIitMasterlol21:37
Loshkidigitsm: define "slow"21:37
Novice201yTJ-: Is it public?21:37
digitsmTJ-, Iran's government has strong control over internet, but they don't filter every proxy. I can use many free proxies for bypassing filters21:37
CIitMasterthe best results are with 2 threath per file21:37
digitsmLoshki, slow= not utilizing the full potential speed of your line21:37
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CIitMasterusually21:37
TJ-digitsm: I checked the Internet Traffic Report but can't see any obvious bottle-necks between Iran and Germany, but as has been suggested, try other mirrors21:38
Loshkidigitsm: define "slow" in Mbits/sec please.21:38
digitsmLoshki. 20KB/s instead of 128KB/s (I know you have MB/s links and may laugh at my speed) :D21:38
CIitMastermy connection only goes up to 420kb/s21:39
Bashing-omhsturgill: Can you not enaeble the "partners" repository from "Software Sources", GUI ??21:39
CIitMastercant even wahtch HD videos21:39
SunstreamLoshki, 3 Mbps vs 10Mbps21:39
CIitMasteronly 720p at most21:39
CIitMasterand if im the only one on the lan21:40
hsturgillBashing-om: no, it's just an ubuntu-core install for docker. Command-line only atm21:40
Loshkidigitsm: I give in. Keep asking, maybe you'll get a third option...21:40
CIitMasteryou can get more speed downloading from multiple hosts at the same time if you connection can handle it21:40
SunstreamUpgrading to 14.10.021:40
TJ-digitsm: multiple connections only help when a server imposes bandwidth limits per-connection and it supports content ranges. If the downloads from the chosen mirror are slower than you know they ought to be, you should try other mirrors. One question for you - what type of connection do you have to your ISP - is it xDSL, ISDN, cable, analog modem, etc.?21:41
SunstreamUtopic Unicorn?21:41
Bashing-omhsturgill: For 14.04 -> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner < - .21:41
digitsmLoshki, thanks for help21:41
Sunstreamwhat in the world is a Utopic Unicorn?21:41
CIitMasterpat-get should work that way21:41
hsturgillBashing-om: thanks! I really apperciaet it21:41
CIitMasterapt-get should dl file x from ftp 1 file y from ftp 2 and so on21:42
Bashing-omhsturgill: :) , small thing .21:42
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digitsmTJ- My connection = ADSL 1mbps (128KB/s)21:42
CIitMasterapt-get should use bitorrent sync by now21:43
TJ-digitsm: OK ... xDSL ... if you'd said ISDN I'd have immediately thought "bonded 64K links" and wondered if that were an issue21:43
Sunstreamupgrading!!21:44
digitsmOoh! 14.10 is released and everybody is downloading GBs to upgrade. It's why all mirrors are slow21:45
hsturgillOh, weird. It seems that vmware-view-client isn't in the parner's repo anymore? Can anyone else confirm?21:45
CIitMasterthats why we need bitorrent sync21:45
CIitMasterthe more users the better21:45
CIitMasterheh21:46
SunstreamUnlike anyone I can wait in fact I will leave the upgrade process to do its thing21:46
digitsmCIitMaster, Yeah a bittorent like downloading system (especially when a new version is released) is a very good idea21:46
CIitMaster~if only isps didnt caped the uploads speed like they do21:46
Bashing-om!info vmware-view-client | hsturgill21:47
ubottuhsturgill: Package vmware-view-client does not exist in utopic21:47
SunstreamI can get a 100/100 fiber link here at home of I so desire.21:47
digitsmCIitMaster, yeah. But even with low upload bandwidth a bittorrent system is a very good solution21:47
SunstreamBut I must pay a hefty extortion fee21:47
CIitMasteryes its better that what we have now21:48
CIitMasteralso good for geting vic ips21:48
digitsmCIitMaster, How could install files from multiple mirrors by apt?21:48
CIitMaster...21:49
mangostaniko_hi guys, i made a small patch for the sapling addon, how is the process for submitting addon fixes?21:49
CIitMasterits not support21:49
Sunstreamhsomething like $5,000 a montj21:49
CIitMasterbut it could be eslly done21:49
digitsmCIitMaster, Or even better install different parts over different tcp connections?21:49
CIitMastereaslly21:49
Bashing-omhsturgill: 14.04 -> Filename: pool/partner/v/vmware-view-client/vmware-view-client_2.2.0-0ubuntu0.14.04_i386.deb .21:49
digitsmCIitMaster, I know it could be easily done, but unfortunately apt-get doesn't currently support this feature21:50
CIitMasterbut bitorrent sync is even better it would make all mirros sync and the files on each mirror yould be pristine so no monkey buissness on the mirrors21:51
hsturgillBashing-om: You're super helpful. Thanks!21:51
TJ-apt can use bit-torrent, with the debtorrent transport21:52
digitsmTJ- Can you explain more?21:52
Sunstreamwow the download is 1,115 MB I wonder why VLC is removed anyone tell me why VLC is being removed?21:53
reisioCIitMaster: right, because nobody will have access to those servers? :p21:53
reisioSunstream: I doubt it is21:53
Sunstreamsays no longer needed something about VLC libraries21:53
OerHeksSunstream, that is normal during upgrade to a newer version?21:54
SunstreamI do not know,    this is my first release upgrade ever21:54
Sunstream14.04 is my first full clean install of  this O/S OerHeks21:55
doubleToasthi :)21:55
digitsmJust a question: I have bad experience with release upgrade21:56
TJ-Sunstream: That sounds about correct; release upgrades are like super-powered "apt-get dist-upgrade" - installing new library SONAME versions (which aren't normally allowed within a release cycle)21:56
digitsmI did it before on LMDE and everytime I upgraded my distro it broke something (at least my X server)21:57
digitsmSo I don't want to upgrade my ubuntu now. But if I stay with 14.04 would its software upgrade?21:57
SunstreamOh, in other words something to do with "restricted" stiff21:58
Sunstreamerr stuff TJ-21:58
SunstreamI am donloading at 1,500 kB/s average21:58
digitsmSunstream, good for you. I don't even 1/10th of your speed21:59
muchachahi guys!22:00
Sunstreamis anyone using your connection digitsm22:00
digitsmSunstream, No, internet is very slow in IRan :D22:00
SunstreamI blame your gov.22:00
muchachaCan somebody help me with the following: I would like to list all available channels in irssi22:00
digitsmSunstream, I blame my gov. too! :))22:01
digitsmSunstream, But it doesn't change anything :D22:01
Sunstreammuchacha, this is not the help channle for that, this is for Ubuntu22:01
TJ-!lts | digitsm: 14.04 is a Long Term Support release22:01
ubottudigitsm: 14.04 is a Long Term Support release: LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)22:01
muchachaSunstream: Sorry, I'm leaving, ok?22:02
digitsmTJ- I know, but what's the meaning of Long Term Support? Do its software update regularly?22:02
digitsmmuchacha, Have fun22:02
LoshkiMy priority is stability, so I never upgrade between releases. I always do from-scratch installs of mature LTS releases.22:03
OerHeksmuchacha, doesn't irssi come with a manual?22:03
SunstreamNo need to apologize I am just saying this is not the support channle for that application :)22:03
digitsmLoshki, Yeah! After 3 years of exclusively using linux, I found that my first priority should be stability too. I have many many packages installed on my laptop22:03
SunstreamOerHeks, Probaly but most dont rtfm22:04
squintySunstream: pot calling the kettle black after discussing government restrictions in here   take it elsewhere please22:04
squintymuchacha:  just consult your softwares manual. :)22:05
SunstreamI just was saying squinty  I was not going to say anything else about that stuff I do not talk politics anyways they cause too much termoil, well that and religion22:05
TJ-digitsm: Yes, that's the point. security and bug-fix updates for the main archive, and where man-power allows, for universe too22:05
OerHeksmuchacha, see " /help channel "for help inside irssi22:05
digitsmTJ- Hmmm, I am not sure whether it's enough for me or not? because sometimes useful apps get updated, the important updates which add features. And it's it important for you to update those useful apps22:08
digitsmFirefox for example22:08
digitsmAnd many other apps, like gimp22:08
digitsmetc.22:08
doubleToastshould I ask hugepages related questions (when used for VMs) in a qemu related channel or is this also the right place to ask?22:08
TJ-digitsm: Some core applications are updated; otherwise via the -backports component of the archives22:09
reisiodoubleToast: #kvm22:09
Loshkidigitsm: Long Term Support in this context is supposed to mean higher priority fixes only, and as few of them as necessary for continued security, functionality, compatibility etc. consistent with stability. If it sounds ideal, there is a catch.22:09
digitsmThe main reason I migrated from LMDE was that its updates were very late. And I heard that ubuntu dist upgrades are as stable as LMDE upgrades22:09
squintydoubleToast:  might be an idea to type  /topic  and read channel guidelines22:09
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pyritedigitsm, all Firefox updates are considered security releases, so you will get the latest Firefox as long as trusty is supported22:11
digitsmpyrite, yeah. Firefox updates are usual in every distro. But some other apps get updated very slowly22:12
alazare619utopic unicorn? wtf kinda gay shit is that22:12
compdoclol22:13
alazare619and its always been a real animal like come on22:13
alazare619uncanny uakari would make sense..22:14
alazare619but unicorn...22:14
alazare619seriously ubuntu seriously?22:14
alazare619im just waiting on vicisous vulture 15.0422:14
alazare619then wirey wombat22:15
Loshkialazare619: great. Now every gay person on this channel is mad at you, and so is everyone offended by bad language. Just so you could whine...22:15
digitsmLoshki, With your definition, LTS updates are not as comprehensive as LMDE update packs. Every LMDE update pack renewed every component (which also breaks stability). However I could cumulatively upgrade one LMDE instace 4 times without any problem. But the main problem of LMDE was that even its update packs were very old!22:15
squintyalazare619:  please take your juvinile drivel elsewhere.22:15
squintydigitsm:  you should be taking that up with the lmde devs.. not here in ubuntu support\22:16
digitsmLoshki, I heard that ubuntu dist upgrades are very stable too. Upgrading only with press of a button, without many troubles and breaks. Is it right?22:17
pyriteRight, you're not likely to get any new features in gimp. Just security fixes if any issues come up.22:17
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digitsmpyrite, Hmmm. So if I need a lot of new features in different apps, then I have to upgrade my ubuntu. right?22:18
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unopasteuser you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted22:18
pyritedigitsm, right.22:18
OerHeksuser not funny22:19
digitsmI have not upgraded ubuntu to newer version. Is it really easy and without trouble?22:19
Loshkisquinty: maybe, but on the way, we were elucidating what it means to be a Ubuntu LTS. If comparing that to other systems makes it clearer, I say it's on-topic.22:19
Richhhhow to get window position snapping in lubuntu 14.04? (someone said it is possible with compiz etc)22:20
Richhhwithout*22:20
guest-fcUUqlDZSRGASF22:21
reisioRichhh: you need a window manager that snaps is all22:21
reisioRichhh: if openbox doesn't do it, use another22:21
reisioRichhh: http://www.google.com/search?q=openbox%20snap22:22
pyritedigitsm, if you use any PPAs or packages from outside the Ubuntu repositories, you will probably run into trouble.22:23
pyriteSometimes old packages from universe can cause trouble.22:23
digitsmIf ubuntu dist upgrade may break it then I won't do it until next LTS release. (that time I will reinstall newer LTS from scratch)22:23
GforceHi,How can I totally remove NVIDIA driver?22:23
EriC^^Gforce: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*22:24
madara_sudo apt-get remove nvidia*22:24
pyriteI haven't had any trouble personally, but it can vary.22:24
EriC^^Gforce: open a terminal and type that22:24
null0digitism I just upgraded my 14.04 to 14.10 with no problem at all22:24
Footydigitsm next LTS is april 201622:24
Richhhreisio: thanks22:24
OerHeksGforce, open additional drivers, and choose nouveau22:25
OerHekselse you end up without videodriver :-D22:25
null0It also solved the issues I had on shutdown/reebot my laptop22:25
GforceOerHeks:I only can access recover mode.22:25
digitsmHmm.22:25
EriC^^Gforce: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau22:26
digitsmpyrite, I am a computer science student with many packages installed. I usually have some packages installed from outside the repo, like: MATLAB, Oracle Java 8, biditexmaker (texmaker with bidi functionality), etc.22:27
madara_is there any way to login as root ?22:28
bekks!root | madara_22:28
ubottumadara_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo22:28
digitsmFooty, waiting till 2016 may be better than breaking all my software, which took months to install them22:28
rom1504madara_: sudo su22:29
bekksrom1504: that will not log you in as root. That will grant you root privileges as a user being logged in.22:29
lickalottmadara_, su or sudo -i22:29
madara_thanks22:30
Footydigitsm: what software?22:30
Gforcedigitsm:Why don't you take a backup and give it a try?22:30
pyritedigitsm, I don't have experience with those programs, but I would guess that you would have to solve some issues and do some manual configuration.22:30
rom1504bekks: hmm what's the difference between su and log in ?22:30
lickalottactually....what bekks said may apply for the sudo -i also22:30
Loshkidigitsm: All I can say is that Ubuntu is my current distro of choice because of the stability/security of its LTS (provided you choose *carefully*), plus the availability of packages without needing to compile first, smooth installs, immense knowledge base, source code. I keep a copy /etc, so I can restore a lost system disk in about 10 minutes.22:31
bekksrom1504: su requires you to be logged in already.22:31
rom1504hmm yeah ok22:31
digitsmpyrite. If only solving SOME issues then it's OK (I did it before regularly when I had LMDE). But if many issues then no22:31
rom1504I guess he could sudo su then passwd, but I think that's not the ubuntu way22:32
Gforcedigitsm:What issues exactly?22:32
rom1504(or add a ssh key so .ssh/authorized_keys)22:32
Footydigitsm:  ah i see, well those packages should be scriptable, soyou can test the install on a newer version of the OS in a VM and if it wokrs then upgrade   however if you dont have any reason to upgrade and your version still has secuirty updates being release then there is no rush22:32
Loshkirom1504: the only scenario I've seen where I need an actual root password is when the system disk fsck fails, and that prompt for the root password comes up. May you never see it...22:35
digitsmLoshki, Fortunately I formatted my root partition as btrfs when I wanted to install ubuntu. So even now I have various snapshots of all my system. Therefor if I accidentally break my system (via upgrade or any other issue) then I can simply roll back to the last working snapshot22:36
digitsmLoshki, I think these snapshots can be considered as backups :D22:36
rom1504usually you get root passwd when you rent a server (from ovh or something), well with debian anyway22:36
rom1504but yeah you don't need a root password on ubuntu usually22:37
digitsmFooty. There is no rush for me to upgrade. Just for the case I have needed a new feature22:37
digitsmOk! I have to go. It's 2 am and I should sleep. Thanks anyone for the help22:38
digitsmMy apt-get installs are finished too22:38
madara_mhmm me too bye22:39
digitsmLoshki, pyrite, TJ-, Thanks in advance22:39
Loshkidigitsm: glad it worked. Start a local usergroup....22:39
Sk2dhey I've installe lubuntu 14.10 encrypted with lvm on my toshibar 550d laptop. Everything worked but I now restarted my pc and I am unabeld to use the keyboard on the first try to enter my passphrase for decryption ctrl+alt+del reboots my system now there is ugly interface to enter my password this works but than my touchpad does not work.22:41
xheartthi , I has 12.04 LTS working great on this old PC, I updated to 14.04 LTS and the PC practically became useless as it is old and not enough performance, i installed again 12.04 LTS but I would like to eliminated the disk sector which the 14.04 LTS how can I delete that partition. a simple delete on that section did not work, any suggestions?22:43
xheartthad*22:43
_Trulloheh, shouldn't touch anything that works :)22:43
_TrulloI did the same, had to reinstall old os :/22:43
reisiowell, you simply test it to make sure it works before replacing the extant, working system22:44
reisioxheartt: if the issue was old GNOME vs new Unity, you should've just chosen another DE22:44
mgolisch3Cthe install cd has a neat feature for that, its called try ubuntu22:44
mgolisch:)22:44
xhearttat this moment the 12.04 LTS is running great and solid22:45
Loshkixheartt: not sure what 'a simple delete' might have consisted of. The best way to delete a partition is probably via gparted. Be careful.22:46
xheartti used gparted but did not let me22:46
Loshkixheartt: well, after you delete the partition, what do you want to do with the space?22:47
xhearttadd it to the current space 12.04 is installed22:47
Loshkixheartt: thought so. You need to boot the live CD and run gparted from there. You can't change partitions if you're running on them, any more than you can levitate by pulling upwards on your shoelaces.22:48
Bashing-omxheartt: " i used gparted but did not let me " : did you "swap off " in gparted ?22:49
xhearttnice explanation! i did understand that! LO!22:49
xhearttLOL!22:49
xheartti did unmount22:49
Loshkixheartt: And I'll still respect you in the morning, so we're even, ok?22:52
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DF3D2I have a problem: I installed lubuntu-desktop, I have since switched to i3 window manager. Whenever I start my computer I am taken to a splash screen showing "Lubuntu" and some dots indicating loading. I have no idea why this is happening as I thought I removed all Lubuntu related packages. I can't figure out how to have my system simply read my ~/.xinitrc file on startup and do what it says "exec i3"22:58
DF3D2note: I removed lxdm and any other graphical login managers22:58
icerootDF3D2: even LightDM?22:59
DF3D2yes22:59
icerootDF3D2: i am not sure if there is a specific bootsplash package as well22:59
_unreal_hum22:59
mgolischprobably22:59
DF3D2iceroot, there must be....22:59
_unreal_are you trying to go headless?22:59
DF3D2I don't know what it is though.22:59
DF3D2_unreal_, no, I just want my ~/.xinitrc to be used...22:59
icerootDF3D2: or you are just editoing grub2 config23:00
icerootDF3D2: remove the quit splash entries23:00
icerootDF3D2: then there is only the text output and after that your setup23:00
mgolischyeah thats easiest23:00
DF3D2iceroot, what file am I editing ? I haven't touched grub in forever23:01
icerootDF3D2: /etc/default/grub23:01
DF3D2thanks23:01
icerootDF3D2: after that, sudo update-grub223:01
DF3D2so I want: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""23:02
DF3D2Okay going to reboot23:02
PaulVernI have an R9 280x and it absolutely sucks under Ubuntu lol.  I was thinking of selling it and downgrading to an nvidia GTX 760.  Would this work well under Ubuntu 14.04?23:03
reisioPaulVern: how's it suck?23:06
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bekksreisio: reversed polarity at the fan cables ;)23:07
reisioheh23:07
DF3D2iceroot, okay so that worked for getting rid of the splash, but now when I type "startx" it just hangs forever. Oddly, when I do ctrl+C after awhile i3 finally starts. Not sure what is causing the issue. all my ~/.xinitrc says is "exec i3"23:07
bekksDF3D2: startx is discouraged for starting X. You should start X using a display manager like lightdm23:08
reisiobekks: is it?23:08
DF3D2bekks, hmm who says ?23:08
reisioDF3D2: nobody :p23:08
DF3D2that is what I thought. I have no need for a graphical login manager at the moment23:09
mgolischDF3D2: in your .xinitrc what do you start there?23:09
DF3D2mgolisch, "exec i3"23:09
mgolischrunning anything there that blocks will cause the other commands to be not executed23:09
DF3D2that is the only thing I have23:09
reisioDF3D2: just hangs, no output?23:11
DF3D2reisio, correct... then when I hit ctrl+c after a minute or two i3 loads up23:11
DF3D2it is a bit odd23:11
mgolischdoes the same happen if you start i3 manualy?23:12
DF3D2by typing "exec i3" manually or some such ?23:13
DF3D2i'm just doing it the way that they state on the i3 website23:14
DF3D2put "exec i3" in "~/.xinitrc"23:14
reisioyou're not already running X or some dm?23:15
DF3D2reisio, I shouldn't be?23:15
DF3D2reisio, on that note though, what is the proper way to have X start automatically upon booting ?23:16
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reisioDF3D2: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LGNET/issue72/chung.html is how I do it, but there are very light even console-based "display managers" if you want them23:17
reisioDF3D2: you don't _usually_ want X or a DM already running if you're about to run 'startx', no23:17
DF3D2reisio, my comment was kind of ambigious. I meant " I shouldn't be" as in, "I know that, I don't think I am"23:18
DF3D2:-D23:18
reisiothink is for people who can't pgrep :p23:19
DF3D2reisio, thanks let me try another reboot and see if I can scrape up an i3 log this time23:20
PaulVernreisio, it sucks.  No matter which distro or drivers (opensource/proprietary), I get tearing in videos, sometimes the display looks all glitchy on login, keyboard stops responding23:21
reisioPaulVern: neat23:21
PaulVernreisio, Before I switch to a nVidia GTX 760, I just want to hear from someone here that it works well23:21
PaulVernlol23:21
reisioPaulVern: might try Windows and then return it23:21
l0rdn1xlol23:21
reisioor just return it23:21
PaulVernreisio, I've had it for 6 months, it worked fine on Windows.  Got me through all the bioshocks :)23:22
PaulVerntoo late to just return it23:22
reisiobummer23:22
PaulVernI've gotten into the MEAN stack for web dev and switched to linux recently23:22
reisiobest check the ati site to see if it's officially supported23:22
reisiomean...23:23
PaulVernMongoDB, Express, Angular, Nodejs23:23
reisiooh lord23:23
PaulVernlol23:23
reisiothat's a lot of .js's23:23
PaulVernbetter than .cs's23:23
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reisionot saying much :p23:23
PaulVernlol23:24
PaulVernsome .rb's as well, if that helps :)23:24
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DF3D2yeah Idk what the issue is, xorg log shows nothing. I don't think it has anything to do with i3 but it won't load i3 until I ctrl+c twice after using "startx"23:25
DF3D2I did notice it said something about "stopping lightdm" on boot since quiet is off, but I don't have lightdm installed....23:26
ubuntu09my lock screen resume dialog box does not show my username. does anyone know how to fix this?23:27
HexagoniteDoes anyone know any way of installing Java on 14.10? Icedtea doesn't seem to work on anything later than 14.04.23:27
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bugzeeokay so, I've installed ubuntu from netinst, and I'm not sure if it works, due to my terrible internet connection probably corrupting the downloaded files23:33
bugzeebecause when I boot into the hard drive, grub doesn't boot up at all, it just shows a blank screen and blinking cursor forever23:33
bugzeeno hard drive reading or anything23:33
bugzeeso where can I obtain ubuntu minimal WITHOUT having to download it within the installer?23:34
mgolischbugzee: sure you installed it properly?23:34
reisiobugzee: the 'minimalcd' image you mean?23:34
bugzeeyes23:34
mgolischthere exists such a thing?23:36
bugzeethe minimalcd image downloads everything, I don't want to download anything, I want all the stuff it would download, already downloaded in an iso, if that even exists23:36
jbudHey ##ubuntu, I'm totally stuck after trying to update :(  I'm getting a kernel panic saying that /sbin/init doesn't exist. I've tried booting into the live cd and chrooting into the device, but it says /bin/bash doesn't exist23:36
bugzeeit's not a hardware problem because I can use my recovery linux flashdrive just fine23:37
jbudI checked, but both /sbin/init and /bin/bash clearly exist23:37
bekksbugzee: So you want a stock desktop install cd.23:37
mgolischbugzee: download the normal install cd?23:37
bugzeebut that comes with unity, is there an option to not install unity?23:37
mgolischjbud: wrong arch?23:38
Bashing-ombugzee: xubuntu , lubuntu .. several others in the 'buntu sisterhood .23:38
jbudmgolisch: what do you mean?23:38
bugzeeI don't want any desktop environment23:38
wafflej0ckbugzee: do you want headless like no desktop environment?23:39
wafflej0ckbugzee: if so you probably want the server edition23:39
reisiobugzee: should be an option during install from the minimalcd image, but don't quote me on that23:39
wafflej0ckbugzee: otherwise as mentioned you can look to Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome for other DEs23:39
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mgolischjbud: so on the live cd you see the files are there?23:39
Bashing-ombugzee: Then do a 'server' install .. or perhaps as suggested a 'minimal' install . ( I do run from a minimal install ) .23:40
bugzeeokay, I'll look into server edition23:40
mgolischjbud: and what i mean was that your using a 64bit cd to chroot into a 32bit install or something23:40
jbudmgolisch: OH no they're both 64bit23:42
jbudmgolisch: But yeah I can see all the files and mount the device just fine23:42
bugzeenope.. server edition isn't going to work for me, it says it comes with all kinds of server stuff, when I don't want it to come with anything23:42
mgolischso the /mnt/whatever/bin/bash actualy exists? and yet chroot tells you it cant find it?23:42
jbudmgolisch: Yeah!23:43
jbudmgolisch: sudo chroot /mnt/sdb1 /bin/bash23:43
x_roothello, i had to restart lightdm23:43
mgolischjbud: what does file /mnt/sdb1/bin/bash say?23:43
x_rootbut now everytime some program is asking for sudo (they need...)23:43
jbud1 min, booting into live cd again23:43
x_rootlike.. if i want to turn off/restart i'll have to give my password (since is sudo shutdown -h -p, for example)23:44
x_rootwhat should i do?23:44
mgolischbugzee: actualy its just a minimal installation with the server kernel installed23:44
bugzeeokay I am seeing something about "alternate CD" that allows me to install without network access23:46
Richhhreisio: someone just revealed that windowskeys+arrowkey does it too23:46
OerHeksbugzee, wrong, alternate is EOL, and you would need internetacces to install23:47
bugzeeoh jeez...23:47
OerHeks!minimal23:48
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:48
l0rdn1xYou can install without the internet, jut wont have any packages lol23:48
bugzee"downloads most packages from the Internet during installation" << do not want this23:48
mgolischjust go with the server cd allready or the stock desktop one23:49
jbudmgolisch: /mnt/sdb1/bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.2423:49
wafflej0ckyup server CD is still my vote :)23:49
OerHeks<bugzee> I don't want any desktop environment"  what do you want then?23:49
bugzeeOerHeks, a command line interface23:49
mgolischjbud: and sudo chroot /mnt/sdb1/ /bin/bash realy says it cant find /bin/bash ?23:49
bekksbugzee: So use the server install cd.23:49
reisioRichhh: gj23:50
OerHeksdesktop iso without desktop = server iso23:50
jbudmgolisch: really seriously,   sudo chroot /mnt/sdb1 /bin/bash  -->  chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash' no such file or directory23:50
jbudEven if its missing some dependencies, it should give a different error message than "no such file or directory" right?23:51
reisiodon't see why it should23:51
reisiojbud: what about /bin/dash?23:52
Fleetflamejbud: you're missing a / in that last message23:52
jbudreisio: same thing, even /bin/sh has same issue23:52
reisiojbud: sure you have a _directory_ in  /mnt/ named 'sdb1'?23:52
jbudFleetflame: and even /mnt/sdb1/  has the same results :(23:52
bugzee"The Long Term Support version of Ubuntu Server, including the Icehouse release of OpenStack and support guaranteed until April 2019" << do not want OpenStack23:53
jbudyes,  file /mnt/sdb1  :  /mnt/sdb1/: directory23:53
bugzeesorry if I sound impatient23:53
reisiobugzee: if it comes with something you don't want, your choices are: uninstall it afterwards, or use another distro23:54
reisiomight I suggest Debian23:54
OerHeksopenstack is an cloud option, not installed standard .. gosh23:54
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reisiocloud :p23:55
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EriC^^jbud: try without /bin/bash , just sudo chroot /dev/sdb123:55
bugzeealright well I'll see if I have a choice to not install OpenStack, thanks23:55
Anonyhi can anyone help? when i open a chat its fine then when i minimise then i clcik on the icon it says its already running but i cant see it23:56
reisiovery sensible23:56
reisioAnony: alt+tab?23:56
jbudEriC^^: same thing :( its trying to load up bash, and complaining that its not there23:56
mgolischjbud: what does file $(which chroot) say23:56
Anonyreisio which one is tab23:56
mgolischbut i think the error message would be different if it actualy was the wrong arch23:57
reisioAnony: above capslock23:57
jbudmgolisch: /usr/sbin/chroot: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-6423:57
mgolischodd23:57
EriC^^jbud: it's which chroot, without anything23:57
EriC^^ah, file $(... )23:57
EriC^^nevermind23:57
EriC^^jbud: try which bash23:58
jbudGive it to me straight guys..am I screwed on this one? :(23:58
jbudEriC^^: /bin/bash23:58
EriC^^odd23:58

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