[00:00] <wafflej0ck> running Ubuntu Gnome now I was on Kubuntu in 12.04 but decided to change it up when I moved to 14.04
[00:00] <wafflej0ck> I just made myself crazy with customizing things
[00:00] <ap0c> as long as it doesn't have Unity and it's adware/spyware
[00:00] <wafflej0ck> it was really awesome but ended up losing productivity playing with productivity widgets :)
[00:01] <ap0c> widgets are fun but I usually only customize them once in a great while ^ once I find a configuration I'm happy with it usually stays like that for a bit
[00:01] <ap0c> too bad the weather ones like to time out connection
[00:01] <wafflej0ck> yeah for me it was just endless fiddling for the most part
[00:02] <wafflej0ck> my desktop was super functional but very confusing and a bit overwhelming
[00:02] <wafflej0ck> with Gnome it's pretty much the opposite
[00:03] <ap0c> my laptop is basically my desktop right now
[00:03] <wafflej0ck> far less ability to customize, almost nothing on the desktop but the windows key takes care of getting you in and out of just about everything
[00:03] <ap0c> until I get the $ for a desktop
[00:03] <wafflej0ck> ap0c: same on that
[00:03] <wafflej0ck> well got a desktop but it's for gaming basically
[00:03] <wafflej0ck> had it for years but still pretty solid GTX670 in there
[00:03] <wafflej0ck> do all my work on two 22" monitors though hooked up to my laptop along with ext keyboard and mouse so it's basically like a desktop
[00:03] <ap0c> i just game on linux right now, I have some windows games that I miss but I'll wait for ports
[00:04] <wafflej0ck> ap0c: yeah that's gotten a lot better
[00:04] <wafflej0ck> play a lot of TF2 on the desktop in Linux and a couple of others (Civ 5, Portal, some others I can't remember the name of)
[00:05] <ap0c> I guess Dayz Standalone might be getting ported according to Dean Hall (the guy who created Dayz),  along with Chivalry: Medieval Warfare
[00:05] <ap0c> wine is also good for playing games , if they are compatible with it
[00:05] <ap0c> diablo 3 / world of warcraft / etc. work pretty good
[00:05] <wafflej0ck> nice yeah diablo 3 looked pretty cool for sure, haven't played it but watched some stuff about it on youtub
[00:06] <wafflej0ck> youtube*
[00:06] <wafflej0ck> heard DayZ is real good too but haven't played it
[00:06] <wafflej0ck> just picked up Borderlands2 recently actually, haven't got the 3rd one yet though still want to play through the 2nd game
[00:06] <ap0c> I still need to buy the expansion for diablo 3, and yeah DayZ is great - I played the mod non-stop until my windows install went corrupt
[00:08] <wafflej0ck> nice we have netflix access in Linux now too by way of Chrome
[00:09] <wafflej0ck> no more hacking around it with PPAs
[00:09] <ap0c> I had a Netflix subscription for about a half a year , maybe a bit more
[00:09] <ap0c> but I didn't really find it worth it over that period for what I paid  /  what I watched
[00:09] <skierpage> valorie: hi! I've read your blog postings on some planets aggregators :)
[00:10] <ap0c> now I just rely on third-party streaming sites that host link lists
[00:10] <wafflej0ck> ap0c: yeah I think after having it for a while you sort of run out of content but they do change it up and I'm sucker for most Sci Fi
[00:10] <wafflej0ck> skierpage: think valorie went out for the night
[00:10] <ap0c> I just didn't like netflix for the fact that most of their 'New Releases' were from 2006
[00:10] <ap0c> they considered stuff they added to the server a 'new release' even if it is 20 years old
[00:11] <wafflej0ck> ap0c: heh yeah that can be annoying for sure have to wait forever to get stuff, they call anything new to the "network" a new release though
[00:11] <wafflej0ck> for newer stuff I usually go through the play store so I can just "own" whatever it is... I used hulu for a while there too but never the paid stuff
[00:11] <skierpage> my 10.10 Distribution Upgrade says it's going to remove 167 packages, which is fine, but I want to copy the list. You can't in the window (LP#1242466), is it in an updat4e log somewhere?
[00:12] <skierpage> I mean 14.10 of course
[00:12] <wafflej0ck> hehe
[00:12] <wafflej0ck> had me worries :P
[00:12] <wafflej0ck> worried*
[00:12] <ap0c> skierpage: it could be removing them because there are replacements
[00:12] <ap0c> ctrl + c doesn't work?
[00:12] <wafflej0ck> typically in a terminal you can highlight and ctrl+shift+c to copy
[00:13] <wafflej0ck> you might also be able to do a "dry-run" and have it just pipe the info from the console to a file
[00:13] <ap0c> I thought he was in a GUI ^
[00:13] <wafflej0ck> ah might be
[00:14] <wafflej0ck> ah yeah found the bug referenced
[00:14] <wafflej0ck> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1242466
[00:15] <wafflej0ck> skierpage: not sure about an update log though that seems reasonable to expect
[00:15] <skierpage> it's in /var/tmp/log/run/dist/dpkg/apt-get/foo/bar somewhere :)
[00:15] <wafflej0ck> skierpage: http://linuxcommando.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-to-show-apt-log-history.html
[00:15] <wafflej0ck> ah k
[00:18] <wafflej0ck> nice I did not know about this dpkg.log good to know
[00:19] <skierpage> wafflej0ck: nothing in dpkg.log yet, it probably doesn't get logged until I actually OK "Remove obsolete packages"
[00:19] <wafflej0ck> skierpage: yeah for me it lists all the configuration and installations that happened
[00:19] <wafflej0ck> just thinking it would be nice to make some sort of GUI for showing this info in a more digestable way
[00:20] <wafflej0ck> I would guess it doesn't write to this dpkg.log file until after the action occurred thoguh
[00:22] <skierpage> wafflej0ck: ubuntu-release-upgrader "just" needs to use richer GUI components to show Details and package lists, but easier said than done
[00:23] <wafflej0ck> skierpage: yea unfortunately just about everything is
[00:23] <wafflej0ck> I heard GTK apps can be served as HTML5 webapps through some black magic, might make GTK more viable for building things to use cross platform
[00:24] <wafflej0ck> though supppose Qt already has the cross platform thing going anyhow
[00:25] <wafflej0ck> I do web app development so that's all outside of my arena of knowledge but I do like making GUIs
[00:25] <wafflej0ck> I know some of this stuff is using JS and CSS and stuff too just don't know the details
[00:29] <skierpage> wafflej0ck: that's the Broadway backend for Gnome/GTK. The GUI ubuntu-release-upgrader is a Python program that somehow has both /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-h89f26yj/DistUpgradeViewGtk3.py and DistUpgradeViewKDE.py files in it, pretty impressive
[00:31] <skierpage> heh bug: Kubuntu shows a yellow "A system restart is required to complete the update process" notification even though I'm still doing the install
[00:34] <wafflej0ck> skierpage: ah right Broadway that's what I was thinking of
[00:57] <skierpage> I filed bug 1385788
[00:57] <skierpage> BTW after I OKd package removal, the lines do show up in `sudo grep ' remove ' /var/log/dpkg.log`
[01:17] <jnxd> hey
[01:18] <jnxd> I was trying out the plasma 5 tech preview, but somehow the laptop wouldn
[01:20] <jnxd> ... somehow the laptop was not able to load init or something. Is this known to be an issue? And arethere any workarounds?
[03:57] <Waffl3x> ap0c: yo
[04:00] <wafflej0ck> skierpage: ah nice
[05:19] <Sadiq_> HELP : How to install VLC Player on offline computer?
[05:33] <wafflej0ck> Sadiq_: download the .deb package
[05:34] <wafflej0ck> Sadiq_: put it on a flash drive
[05:34] <wafflej0ck> Sadiq_: install with, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[05:34] <wafflej0ck> where package is the name of the file
[06:53] <Sadiq_> Thanks
[07:07] <ap0c> Waffl3x: sup man
[07:18] <Sadiq_> I am running Kubuntu 14.04 on VMware, and have just installed VLC Player but video is not playing, showing just black screen
[07:19] <Sadiq_> what could be the possible problem?
[07:27] <dracnoc> Sadiq_: you could try changing the video renderer in VLC to see if that helps the problem. Look in VLC's preferences (Ctrl-P) and under the video tab change the output. Also, Kubuntu may be using desktop effects which can have an effect on video rendering in an OpenGL envivironment. Switch them off and see what happens
[08:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:56] <adam1325674> Good morning
[09:00] <lordievader> Hey adam1325674, how are you?
[09:03] <adam1325674> Fine, thanks. How about you?
[09:05] <lordievader> Doing good, messing with my Pi :)
[10:19] <mokush> any idea if we can get the auto-mount functionality that used in systemsettings>removable drives in plasma5?
[10:25] <lordievader> mokush: <silly workaround>Write udev rules</silly workaround>
[10:33] <mokush> lordievader: I think I'll try to build https://github.com/limansky/tinymount
[10:35] <lordievader> mokush: Heh, fun project.
[10:37] <mokush> lordievader: found it in the razor-qt 3rd party apps list https://github.com/Razor-qt/razor-qt/wiki/3rd-party-applications
[10:37] <mokush> pretty cool list
[12:39] <SticzGaming> Hello :D
[12:40] <SticzGaming> Anyone have the Kubuntu-mobile image for Nokia N900?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:25] <rishabh> #krita
[14:22] <mokush> any idea where kwin scripts are installed in 14.10/plasma5? kwin doesn't seem to pick them up from .kde/share/apps/kwin
[15:15] <andlabs> okay, I unwittingly installed kubuntu next thinking it would resolve issues with qml, but now I want to roll everything back to kde 4 - how do I do this
[15:15] <lordievader> andlabs: Expect breakage, but install ppapurge and let that purge the Kubuntu Next ppa.
[15:16] <andlabs> ok, thanks
[15:16] <andlabs> temporary breakage won't matter since I've broken this install in other ways I'm going to do a fresh reinstall anyway
[15:17] <andlabs> but for now the problems outweigh the wait
[15:17] <BluesKaj> andlabs, do you have / and /home partitions ?
[15:18] <andlabs> nope, and I have a full HDD to boot :D
[15:18] <andlabs> (does ubiquity even support separate / and /home? the only linux installer I know that expressly does is the SUSE installer)
[15:21] <lordievader> andlabs: Yes. For basic installs like that Ubiquity is quite capable.
[15:21] <andlabs> I'll have to do that when I reinstlal then; thanks
[15:21] <BluesKaj> andlabs, yes ubiquity has manual partitioning
[15:21] <andlabs> the only issue then is how much to allot to each, since I eat disk space like pacman eats pellets
[15:22] <andlabs> (also in the meantime I do have backup DEs just in case)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> 15G for / and /home is upt to whatever you think your data will need
[15:24] <aldo> hi guys I after an upgrade I cannot start KDE and my internet is down so I cannot do apt-get, could you help me?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> aldo, have you tried the recovery kernel?
[15:25] <aldo> well internet is down only for my desktop computer after I upgraded it....I think is a network issue due to the upgrade..
[15:26] <aldo> tnx BluesKaj, where do I find it?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> in grub
[15:27] <andlabs> and yep the purge failed woo
[15:27] <aldo> you mean to make it start with the other recovery kernel...
[15:27] <lordievader> andlabs: Else, do you have older kernels available?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> an older kernel listed below the desfult in grub
[15:28] <BluesKaj> default rather
[15:28] <andlabs> lordievader: yes I do have older kernels but this is just KDE-related
[15:28] <andlabs> oh I think I got it restarting
[15:28] <lordievader> andlabs: Oh sorry that was for aldo...
[15:28] <andlabs> (by adding the lines back to sources.list)
[15:28] <lordievader> aldo: If the recovery mode does not work, do you have older kernels?
[15:28] <aldo> ok, I made it start in recovery mode. Now is showing me a big menu
[15:30] <aldo> the menu coming from the recovery mode I've just chosen gives me lots of options for resume, clean, dpkg fsck, grub, network...
[15:31] <andlabs> ok let'shope this owkred tanks again
[16:23] <andlabs> update: rollback worked everything's back to normal; thanks
[16:24] <lordievader> andlabs: Good to know :)
[17:19] <nicolas_> Salut !
[17:19] <nicolas_> J'aurais besoin d'aide svp
[17:22] <amichair> BluesKaj: I found the cause of the networking issue I had yesterday, in bug #1385709. Still not sure why the upgrade to 14.10 started triggering it, but at least I got it working now. Just letting u know in case it helps someone else that'll come here seeking help...
[17:23] <amichair> BluesKaj: and thanks for ur help with it :-)
[17:23] <BluesKaj> amichair, ok well done, thanks for the heads up :)
[17:24] <amichair> BluesKaj: haven't seen kikidee around (who had the same symptoms) since then, maybe it'll help him/her too
[17:25] <BluesKaj> haven't seen kikidee today
[17:29] <BluesKaj> well, got lots of leaves to rake again....laters
[17:50] <serial_d> salut
[17:50] <pinksoviet> hello
[17:51] <serial_d> suis nouveau x) c'est calme ici nan?
[17:54] <pinksoviet> yep :3
[17:55] <lordievader> !fr
[18:57] <LaraPast_> #kubuntu-it
[19:39] <ovrflw0x> lordievader, hello are you done with your education?
[19:49] <lordievader> ovrflw0x: Err what?
[19:50] <ovrflw0x> nvm
[19:51] <lordievader> ovrflw0x: Now you are just making me curious...
[21:00] <Waffl3x> hi ap0c you're on early
[21:05] <ap0c> sup Waffl3x
[21:05] <ap0c> not really early, like 5:05 pm
[21:05] <Waffl3x> not much, im having a discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic that you might be able to contribute to
[21:06] <ap0c> I just joined ^
[21:20] <Waffl3x> ap0c: im talking about the raspberry pi, I want to start hacking stuff and learning about it
[21:20] <Waffl3x> and automation and stuff
[21:20] <lordievader> Waffl3x: Bash ;)
[21:21] <lordievader> Waffl3x: Python \o/
[21:21] <Waffl3x> I want to go into the hardware side of stuff right now
[21:21] <Waffl3x> I feel like ill be able to learn better
[21:22] <Waffl3x> and be able to do more
[21:34] <ap0c> Waffl3x: still learning python ?
[21:34] <Waffl3x> yeah
[21:35] <Waffl3x> I took a break though
[21:35] <lordievader> Why? Python is awesome :D
[21:35] <Waffl3x> first I was going to school and staying out late so I didnt have any time
[21:35] <Waffl3x> then I reinstalled my computer so I couldnt do it
[21:35] <Waffl3x> now its about time to start again
[21:35] <Waffl3x> but im going to look into pi stuff first
[21:39] <ap0c> don't you think you should learn how to program before buying something to experiment with programming?
[21:39] <ap0c> just my 2 cents ^ but do whatever u want man
[21:40] <ap0c> not really sure how complex the raspberry pi is / it's learning curve
[21:40] <lordievader> Not, as long as you use raspbian. By the by shall we go to #kubuntu-offtopic