[00:09] <teward> wow, 18 security updates and 14.10 has only been out for, what, a few days?
[00:10]  * teward just installed into a VM so he has latest :)
[00:11] <ianorlin> hmm I am not getting any
[03:57] <sheena1> phillw:
[03:57] <sheena1> oops sorry.
[03:57] <sheena1> phillw: i tried changing all those settings but it's still suspending when idle. any further thoughts?
[09:54] <asd> Hi, is wallpaper working for everybody?
[09:56] <asd> here is what i'm talking about: http://i.imgur.com/cXrzKtv.png
[10:22] <testdr> asd: i had no problems - have different wallpaper on every desk and only conky is using the wrong background(doubl-buffer) for 2 seconds after switching to other desk.
[10:27] <asd> im gonna try restart it probabaly its going to be fine.
[10:28] <testdr> asd: i doubt this will solve your problems, because you did not give a hint what is not working and what do you expect
[13:25] <GoldFish> !ops
[13:25] <GoldFish> !ops | help channel emergency
[13:25] <GoldFish> !ops | help channel emergency
[13:25] <GoldFish> yay
[13:25] <GoldFish> !ops
[13:59] <paul___> I cant make my keymap settings  stick - if I do lxkeymap and to UK it reverts to US after a reboot
[14:00] <paul___> If I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration that works but likewise is forgotten on reboot
[14:01] <paul___> I have two 'English - English US' items if I click on the system tray icon
[14:01] <paul___> any ideas please?
[14:02] <paul___> oh, setxkbmap -layout gb does the same thing too
[14:13] <GoldFish> !ops
[14:13] <Synchunk> GoldFish, why?
[14:14] <GoldFish> !ops
[14:15] <Synchunk> GoldFish, stop abusing !ops
[14:15] <GoldFish> !op | Synchunk channel emergency
[14:15] <Synchunk> GoldFish, you'll get banned, so you should really stop, but that's your decision..
[14:15] <GoldFish> !op | Synchunk channel emergency
[14:15] <GoldFish> Synchunk, dude i have been banned millions of times
[14:15] <GoldFish> !ops | suck my dick
[14:16] <GoldFish> !ops | where are you fucking ops?
[14:16] <Synchunk> GoldFish, maybe you should think about why you keep getting banned? Because you're a nice and respectful person? Clearly not.
[14:16] <Synchunk> (or mature person)
[14:16] <GoldFish> !op | where r ye fucking ops
[14:16] <paul___> anyone help with my keyboard question please?
[14:16] <GoldFish> !op | where r ye fucking ops
[14:16] <GoldFish> paul___, fuck off
[14:16] <GoldFish> Synchunk, unless you fear god you will go to hell aka the furnace of fire
[14:17] <Synchunk> GoldFish, go to ##religion and tell that to people that care about your comments. I don't.
[14:17] <GoldFish> !op | where r ye fucking ops
[14:17] <Synchunk> How old are you - 12?
[14:17] <GoldFish> Synchunk, you see thats a problem for you
[14:17] <GoldFish> you hate god and you show it by being ignorant of your creator
[14:18] <GoldFish> !ops | fuck you ops
[14:18] <Synchunk> GoldFish, do you think god calls people, quote, "ye fucking ops"?
[14:18] <GoldFish> Synchunk, god hates the wicked
[14:18] <paul___> yawn
[14:18] <Synchunk> GoldFish, you're now on my /ignore list - just in case you're wondering why I'm not receiving your messages anymore.
[14:19] <GoldFish> Synchunk, cool
[14:20] <GoldFish> !ops
[14:22] <GoldFish> !ops
[14:22] <GoldFish> Myrtti, ban me!
[14:22] <GoldFish> !ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <Myrtti> haven't you learnt how to knit yet?
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <Myrtti> how's the gaming thing going?
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <GoldFish> !ops | come on you lazy fucking ops
[14:23] <Synchunk> ♥
[14:24] <Myrtti> I see HFSPlus is on again
[14:25] <lewellyn> it's too bad there's no way to quiet someone without them being aware.
[14:26] <lewellyn> that could have proved fun this time :P
[14:26] <Synchunk> lol
[14:26] <Synchunk> Hmmm. I think there's a way to do that
[14:27] <Myrtti> channel mode changes are always public
[14:27] <Synchunk> Well.. they can still see the *sets quiet* message,
[14:27] <Synchunk> but isn't there an ops-only mode for that?
[14:27] <lewellyn> there are a couple of ircds where the server's umode list isn't the same as the client's, and ircops can alter the additional flags. but i don't think any are evil enough to have a silencer there.
[14:28] <Synchunk> I guess you could /kick, then /quiet and maybe they would rejoin without noticing it
[14:28] <lewellyn> not a bad idea though :D
[15:21] <dust> how to set keyboard shortcuts and how to prevent that a fullscreen game cant use anymore f11
[15:41] <wxl-phone> dust: keyboard shortcuts ate defined in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[15:42] <wxl-phone> Man that's hard to type on the phone
[15:42] <dust> is there a way that in a fullscreen game these keys arent used?
[15:43] <wxl-phone> If it's defined there, it will be used
[15:43] <wxl-phone> You could make a script to turn them off and run the game and then turn them back on after
[15:43] <dust> i mean yes a shortcut like alt tab to get out of a hanging fullscreen programm but when running it that u can use of course all f keys and so on
[15:44] <dust> this makes problems for all ppl who play full screen games... there must be an ootb solution
[15:45] <wxl-phone> Make a script
[15:45] <dust> its not only for http://www.playdeb.net/ but more ppl will use steam too
[15:46] <dust> u cant await that ppl do scripts to solve such
[15:47] <wxl-phone> So make one yourself and you won't have to wait
[15:47] <wxl-phone> this feature you ask for is beyond the current scope of Lubuntu
[15:48] <dust> uhh what scope?
[15:48] <wxl-phone> If you think it should be included, make a bug report for the wishlist
[15:48] <wxl-phone> Make sure to clearly define what you'd expect to happen
[15:48] <dust> a lightweight desktop is the scope.. no?
[15:49] <wxl-phone> Yes and so complicated keyboard shortcut features is beyond the scope, but if you can suggest something which meets the goals of Lubuntu, then it can be considered
[15:50] <wxl-phone> But only with a bug report
[15:50] <wxl-phone> No matter what I tell you, what you're looking for is not included in Lubuntu
[15:50] <dust> complicated is it because there is no gui for shortcuts
[15:51] <wxl-phone> So I'm telling you what you can do to potentially change this
[15:51] <wxl-phone> more GUIs means more resources which is less lightweight
[15:51] <wxl-phone> I understand your concern, but I can't fix it for you
[15:52] <wxl-phone> therefore arguing about it will not be fruitful
[15:52] <wxl-phone> But there is something you can do about it as I suggested
[15:52] <dust> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard
[15:53] <dust> well there is suggested https://code.google.com/p/obkey/ but that is not in the repo
[15:53] <wxl-phone> There ya go
[15:54] <wxl-phone> But I'm pretty sure that's not exactly what you want
[15:57] <wxl-phone> Also with us moving to Qt that will prove to be less useful
[15:58] <dust> yeah i know... and i hope such gets better
[15:58] <wxl-phone> Wishlist bug report
[16:12] <dust> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-tweaks/+bug/1385915
[16:31] <wxl-phone> dust: so you want a shortcut to remove all keys? Hour
[16:31] <dust> no
[16:32] <wxl-phone> How is it triggered? When is it turned off?
[16:32] <wxl-phone> Your report is not clear
[16:32] <dust> but in full screen of a program u dont want the desktop shortcuts but the keys in the program
[16:33] <wxl-phone> Edit the bug report and make it clear
[16:33] <dust> u still want that alt tab works so in case it hangs in full screen u can get out
[16:34] <wxl-phone> What turns it on
[16:34] <wxl-phone> What turns it off
[16:34] <wxl-phone> What exactlY happens
[16:34] <dust> there is no turn off or on
[16:34] <wxl-phone> There has to be
[16:34] <dust> a lot of programs use f keys... why f11 to sitch full scrren?
[16:35] <wxl-phone> I'm not clear on what you want
[16:37] <koell> Any reason why to switch from Lubuntu 14.04 lts to .10?
[16:38] <koell> hey phillw
[16:39] <phillw> koell: if you are happy with 14.04, stick with it. It is a 'bug-fix' release.
[16:43] <phillw> 14.04.1 is out and about with 14.04.2 a work in progress.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-14.04.2
[16:51] <koell> phillw: so to upgrade do 14.04.1 i just have to do ´sudo apt-get upgrade´ or ´dist-upgrade´??
[16:51] <silverlion> koell : -upgrade is enough
[16:51] <silverlion> you'll get all necessary updates automatically
[16:52] <koell> i dont get the reason for 14.10 xD
[16:53] <phillw> koell: for updates to be aproved for 124.04, they must work in 14.10 :)
[16:53] <zy3pD_m> New icons xD
[16:53] <phillw> 14.04
[16:53] <koell> 124.04 xD
[16:53] <koell> so in 2124 maybe ^^
[16:54] <koell> zy3pD_m: wait, new icons?? screenies pls
[16:54] <phillw> koell:  it is a bit involved, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates is a good explanation of how and why.
[16:55] <zy3pD_m> koell and dark panel theme works now, yeah!
[16:55] <koell> zy3pD_m: only on 14.10?
[16:56] <zy3pD_m> For me, sure xD
[16:56] <koell> can you show me some screenshots of the new icons, theme etc.?
[16:56] <ianorlin> koell: if you do upgrade to 14.10 remember you will have to upgrade in 9 months
[16:56] <zy3pD_m> No
[16:56] <zy3pD_m> xD
[16:56] <koell>  wtf :D
[16:57] <zy3pD_m> koell  try it
[16:57] <koell> im scared :(
[16:57] <koell> because lubuntu already looks great!
[16:57] <ianorlin> koell if you do upgrade read the relase notes
[16:58] <zy3pD_m> 6mon after 14.04 nothing important changed
[16:58] <koell> ill look at some youtube videos first..
[16:58] <zy3pD_m> Yes lunu looks great, only ob looks ugly
[16:58] <phillw> zy3pD_m: it is a bug fix release.
[16:58] <zy3pD_m> *lubuntu
[16:59] <koell> lunu!
[16:59] <zy3pD_m> It s lubu xD
[16:59] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[17:00] <phillw> oh, our 1st time with release notes in multiple languages.
[17:00] <phillw> translators always welcome :)
[17:00] <koell> yay, no german for me xD
[17:01] <zy3pD_m> Hey i m from germany!
[17:01]  * silverlion too :P
[17:01] <zy3pD_m> Hallo silverlion ^^
[17:01] <silverlion> zy3pD_m : moin moin
[17:01] <phillw> volunteer for next time, or translate and get rafael to add it.
[17:01] <koell> zy3pD_m: you're new to the L ubuntu?
[17:02] <zy3pD_m> Fan since 13.04
[17:03] <phillw> 10.04 was my first :)
[17:03] <koell> 13.04 ^^
[17:04] <zy3pD_m> koell 13.04  you too?
[17:04] <koell> ya
[17:04] <koell> it is the only way to effectively use ubuntu ^^
[17:04] <zy3pD_m> Cool
[17:05] <koell> this is a really angry lubuntu user, nothing new for him at christmas xD http://youtu.be/stj-0cDJhxs
[17:06] <zy3pD_m> I only have a problem with the style since 14.x, the menu background is ugly white
[17:06] <phillw> good to have you on board. You are the future , please do help with testing. Once the boss says LXQt is a go, we need a lot of testers!
[17:06] <koell> zy3pD_m: noooo, it looks amazing! i like the new white simple bg
[17:07] <koell> phillw: i just hope lxqt looks at least as good as lxde now
[17:07] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing
[17:07] <zy3pD_m> On my laptop it looks uuuuuuugly, i copied the theme folder of 13.04 xD
[17:07] <koell> lol
[17:07] <phillw> koell: you can install it and see. Do not forget our artwork team are the same :)
[17:07] <koell> i guess it is just a variable to change
[17:08] <koell> phillw: i tried lxqt, it is not the same ^^
[17:09] <phillw> https://launchpad.net/~joern-schoenyan/+archive/ubuntu/lxqt
[17:09] <phillw> read the warning!!!
[17:09] <koell> xD
[17:09] <koell> i dont get why they want lxqt. what is wrong with gtk?
[17:10] <phillw> koell: Qt5 is out now, so rafael and the gang will be on it :D
[17:10] <zy3pD_m> I think lxqt will look like... Kde :-(
[17:10] <koell> gang xD
[17:10] <phillw> koell: it is meandering and forking etc.
[17:10] <koell> zy3pD_m: yes, i thought the same.. :(
[17:10] <phillw> zy3pD_m: not with RazorQt it won't :)
[17:10] <koell> because of this uggggly box shadow
[17:11] <zy3pD_m> Yeah
[17:12] <phillw> rafaellaguna: when do you expect to have 1st fix artwork (themes / icons etc) for LXQt ?
[17:12] <rafaellaguna> we're working on it
[17:12] <rafaellaguna> it will be published first in the blog
[17:12] <koell> rafaellaguna: :3
[17:12] <phillw> koell: rafaellaguna is their TL :)
[17:12] <phillw> rafaellaguna:  thanks, the natives, as always, are impatient!
[17:12] <koell> will there be a christmas wallpaper again this year? :3
[17:13] <rafaellaguna> koell, yes :)
[17:13] <koell> awwwrrrr
[17:13] <zy3pD_m> Cool designers here in #lunu xD ... Also developer?
[17:13] <rafaellaguna> developers here are cool too
[17:14] <rafaellaguna> if you seen this http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2013/07/razorqt-theme.html
[17:14] <phillw> rafaellaguna: got two possibles for german translation of release notes... silverlion and zy3pD_m if you want to go for it.
[17:14] <rafaellaguna> you can imagine we're close
[17:14] <rafaellaguna> silverlion can't
[17:14] <rafaellaguna> any chinese speaker here?
[17:15] <rafaellaguna> japanese / korean ?
[17:15] <phillw> rafaellaguna:  then grtab zy3pD_m :)
[17:15] <rafaellaguna> zy3pD_m, if you speak German you could help us :)
[17:15] <koell> ispeak german as well ^^
[17:15] <rafaellaguna> :)
[17:15] <phillw> rafaellaguna: ask the ubuntu-kylin people, I'm sure they'd spare a translator for a page.
[17:16] <zy3pD_m> phillw rafaellaguna sry i m not at home...android
[17:16] <rafaellaguna> zy3pD_m, it's ok
[17:16] <phillw> rafaellaguna: ooh another candidate :)
[17:16] <rafaellaguna> yup
[17:16] <rafaellaguna> koell, do you have 5 min to spare?
[17:17] <zy3pD_m> rafaellaguna but if i wanna help, where do i start?
[17:17] <rafaellaguna> :D
[17:17] <koell> at least 6 xD
[17:18] <rafaellaguna> zy3pD_m, I need someone with full access to an editor
[17:19] <koell> Let's switch your wallpapers now! ^^ http://lubuntublog.blogspot.co.at/2013/12/merry-christmas.html
[17:19] <zy3pD_m> Later maybe
[17:19] <rafaellaguna> :)
[17:19] <koell> hahaha who did this funny blue unicorn? xD
[17:20] <rafaellaguna> I'm afraid it was me :)
[17:20] <koell> xD
[17:21] <koell> so this is how you look like? :D
[17:21] <rafaellaguna> yes, my hair is blue sometimes :D
[17:21] <phillw> koell: you may like Lenny ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing/Lenny
[17:21] <zy3pD_m> Where is a blue unicorn???
[17:22] <koell> cuteeeeee
[17:22] <phillw> I have the black tee-shirt :)
[17:22] <rafaellaguna> cool T-shirt!
[17:23] <rafaellaguna> koell, do you still have those 6 min?
[17:23] <koell> rafaellaguna: always
[17:23] <rafaellaguna> :)
[17:23] <koell> phillw: where did you buy/print?
[17:24] <rafaellaguna> can you please translate this little page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[17:24] <rafaellaguna> you can send it to me by mail, as plain text
[17:25] <phillw> did mine with vista-print, they are happy with the artwork format and print for each country. However, I know silverlion got his done by a local Tee-Shirt printer. rafaellaguna's art work is exactly what they need to print a tee-shirt.
[17:26] <silverlion> re
[17:26] <koell> rafaellaguna: okey
[17:26] <silverlion> yep. they were really amazed by the pdf I showed them ;)
[17:26] <phillw> silverlion: would we expect anything else from rafaellaguna ?
[17:26] <silverlion> phillw : nope we won't
[17:27] <rafaellaguna> :D stahp it you
[17:27] <phillw> so, those who worry about theme / wallpaper / icons for LXQt .... stop worrying :)
[17:29] <phillw> we are blessed that lubuntu has rafaellaguna and his team who passionately care about how things look.
[17:30] <phillw> Loves making rafaellaguna blush :P
[17:30] <rafaellaguna> don't forget the great people who do the apps. that is really an amazing work
[17:30] <rafaellaguna> or those who don't sleep improving the ISOs, like phillw
[17:30] <rafaellaguna> :P
[17:31] <phillw> rafaellaguna: as joern said... he can code... you do the work of making it all look 'pretty'.
[17:31] <rafaellaguna> phillw, that makes a team ;)
[17:31] <phillw> we all make a team, and a damn good one!
[17:32] <rafaellaguna> yay!
[17:42] <zy3pD_m> re
[17:51] <koell> rafaellaguna: okey where to send?
[17:59] <koell> i really like the new wallpapers, good choice
[18:28] <dust> wxl its about http://springrts.com/ at version 96 with sdl f11 worked ingame and no window resize... since version 98 they use sdl2 and since that time f11 changes the fullscreen to window mode
[18:32] <dust> at xfce it works like it should... f11 ingame uses a widget and dosnt toggle fullscreen
[18:45] <wxl-phone> Include it in the bug report dust
[19:00] <dust> k
[20:25] <filla> hi, can someone tell me, what the newest version of wireshark in ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[20:25] <filla> is there a repository to look at?
[20:26] <filla> i am not an ubuntu user but need the version available in this distribution
[20:36] <Unit193> 10.04 has expired for desktop use, but...
[20:36] <Unit193> !info wireshark lucid
[20:36] <Unit193> !info wireshark utopic
[21:28] <filla> ty