[18:56] <andrewhsu> smoser: i hear cloud-init is being migrated to github. is this so? i’d love for that to happen. :)
[18:56] <harlowja> andrewhsu https://github.com/cloud-init/ is the start, i'm not sure the current delay though, smoser  hopefully knows ;)
[18:56] <andrewhsu> i have stuff i’d like to send as pull request. i know git but i’m not familiar with bzr.
[18:57] <andrewhsu> (i’d prefer git)
[18:57] <smoser> andrewhsu bzr isn't terribly difficult. 
[18:57] <smoser> sometime in the not-too-distant fugure we'll have some plan for taking requests on github i thikn
[18:58] <smoser> that may or may not be "source code is hosted in git".
[18:58] <andrewhsu> how can i help?
[18:58] <andrewhsu> i work with josh harlow at yahoo
[18:58] <harlowja> :-P
[18:58] <andrewhsu> for better or for worse
[18:58] <harlowja> ha
[18:59] <harlowja> *worse!
[18:59] <hiren_> +1 
[18:59] <hiren_> hah
[18:59] <hiren_> hey andrewhsu!
[18:59] <andrewhsu> wassup
[18:59] <hiren_> not sure how happy harlowja is after inviting us in this chan now :D
[19:00] <harlowja> ha
[19:01] <hiren_> harmw: I see not action on https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=194295 - want me to poke marino? 
[19:01] <hiren_> (wanted to ask you before I go and do that)
[19:01] <smoser> i do !
[19:01] <smoser> :)
[19:01] <hiren_> heh
[19:01] <hiren_> k
[19:03] <smoser> hiren_, can you confirm my understanding that there are no "official cloud" images for freebsd ?
[19:05] <hiren_> smoser: So, freebsd release eng team is working closely with a bunch of "cloud" folks and are working on creting *official* images.
[19:05] <hiren_> whatever we have is not tagged official right now.
[19:05] <hiren_> aws, microsoft and couple more I think.
[19:05] <harmw> hiren_: go ahead :)
[19:06] <harmw> ah, he's not online though
[19:06] <andrewhsu> smoser: is the desire to move everything to github or have a read-only github mirror of launchpad? or a sync back and forth so changes could be submitted to either launchpad or github?
[19:07] <hiren_> harmw: yeah, I'll see if I can get someone else to pick it up. 
[19:07] <smoser> fwiw, 5 years ago, i used only git, and other than being 5 years since daily use, i mostly prefer it to bzr.
[19:08] <smoser> bzr does do merges better.  you dont have to keep  squashing commits 
[19:09] <smoser> rather you can commit commit commit on your branch, and then when you merge have a single commit and the commit/commit/commit are still readable 
[19:09] <smoser> hiren_, so what would I / we need to do from a cloud-init perspective if we wanted cloud-init in the images ?
[19:10] <smoser> and would there ever be a downloadable image like ubuntu's or fedora's ? 
[19:10] <smoser> ie, what i'd get at http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora#clouds
[19:10] <harmw> probably poke someone from the designated workgroup
[19:10] <smoser> http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[19:10] <harmw> to add the ci pkg to it
[19:11] <harmw> official images would probably go live on cloud.freebsd.org or somthing :p
[19:11] <harmw> hiren_: enlighten us :p
[19:23] <harlowja> andrewhsu https://etherpad.openstack.org/cloud-init-next 
[19:23] <harlowja> please add to there :)
[19:23] <harlowja> andrewhsu https://etherpad.openstack.org/cloud-init-next
[19:50] <harmw> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=371603
[20:00] <hiren_> harmw: woho! good stuff. 
[20:00] <hiren_> smoser: harmw : wrt cloud images, let me talk to the RE folks and get you some sensible answer. (rather than random bullshit that I make up ;))
[20:01] <harmw> :>
[20:01] <harmw> do thy gather somewhere public?
[20:01] <harmw> if so I'll be happy do talk to them myself
[20:02] <smoser> hiren_, if we insisted that people in this channel did not spout random $*#% then we'd not allow harlowja here.
[20:03] <harmw> :>
[20:08] <hiren_> hah
[20:08] <hiren_> harmw: not really
[20:09] <hiren_> so we do pushout something like tihs right now: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/VM-IMAGES/10.1-RC3/amd64/Latest/FreeBSD-10.1-RC3-amd64.qcow2.xz
[20:09] <smoser> is that linked anywhere ?
[20:10] <harmw> ah yea, I remember having seen that before
[20:10] <smoser> other than ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/VM-IMAGES/10.1-RC3/amd64/Latest/
[20:10] <smoser> :)
[20:10] <hiren_> linked?
[20:11] <hiren_> smoser: you want freebsd project to explicitly say we support cloud-init? 
[20:11] <harmw> hiren_: those images need to be respun with c-i :)
[20:11] <hiren_> yes.
[20:11] <hiren_> harmw: true. 
[20:11] <smoser> right.
[20:11] <smoser> thats what i want.
[20:11] <harmw> +1 on that, yes
[20:11] <hiren_> so, what exacly we wnat in the "respin" ?
[20:12] <hiren_> install the port... and..?
[20:12] <harmw> and nothing
[20:12] <harmw> :)
[20:12] <hiren_> hah
[20:12] <hiren_> okay
[20:12] <smoser> i suspect that there is work necessary in cloud-init to make more stuff work and better.
[20:12] <smoser> for sure. and i'm ok with that.
[20:12] <harmw> for sure
[20:12] <smoser> i'm saying from a cloud-init upstream project perspective, i'd like to have cloud-init in "official freebsd images" (and official images of any OS that we can).
[20:12] <hiren_> so, for now, if we just install the port we just committed and get the qcow2, that'd be enough?
[20:13] <harmw> but the current stuff can handle configdrive, ssh and sudo, growing disks, so the basics are covered
[20:13] <smoser> that will help me in my diabolical scheme to acheive world domination.
[20:13] <hiren_> heh.
[20:13] <harmw> hiren_: important little detail
[20:13] <harmw> c-i must be manually enabled in /etc/rc.conf
[20:13] <harmw> else it won't run on boot 
[20:14] <hiren_> harmw: the port install doesn't do that, right?
[20:14] <harmw> nop
[20:14] <harmw> should it do that?
[20:14] <hiren_> harmw: can you please list down exact things evenif they are just : 1) install the port 2) enable rc.conf
[20:14] <harmw> given its nature, perhaps it should though...
[20:14] <hiren_> hum, we dont do that.
[20:15] <harmw> nah thought so
[20:15] <harmw> hence I didn't make it do that
[20:15] <hiren_> after installing the service via port, users have to enable them.
[20:15] <hiren_> so thats okay
[20:15] <hiren_> expected.
[20:15] <hiren_> harmw: cool.
[20:15] <harmw> step1: install port, step2: enable in /etc/rc.conf
[20:17] <harmw> smoser: there is a thread on openstack-dev regarding support for/on freebsd compute nodes
[20:17] <harmw> maybe someone should let those guys know the instance part is covered now as well :)
[20:18] <harmw> alright, time to head back to my recently upgraded Juno-cloud to fix networking - like, again
[20:23] <hiren_> I am talking to the superawesome RE guy from FreeBSD to integrate this stuff and comeup with a openstack cloud image on official freebsd page.
[20:42] <harlowja> random bs; what u say, lol
[20:42] <harlowja> ha
[20:44] <hiren_> dude. I do that all the time. So easy with carefully selected buzzwords.
[20:46] <harlowja> :-P
[20:49] <smoser> cloud!
[20:49] <harlowja> lol
[20:49] <harlowja> smoser plan for world domination being discovered
[20:49] <harlowja> not so secret anymore
[20:49] <harmw> harlowja: you do realize your kinda like Pinky now, right
[20:50] <harlowja> :(
[20:50] <harlowja> u pinky
[20:50] <harlowja> lol
[20:50] <harmw> :p
[20:53] <smoser> i have 2 pinkies!
[20:56] <harlowja> http://www.wearyourbeer.com/images/Pinky_Brain_To_Do_List_Gray_Shirt.jpg :-P
[20:56] <harlowja> i guess i should get that shirt, haha