[08:14] <kfunk> Riddell: awesome. thanks again
[08:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:52] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[09:53] <apachelogger> yofel: any objections to suspending neon on 14.04 in favor of kubuntu-ci on 14.10?
[09:53] <Riddell> hi bukai 
[10:10] <sgclark> Riddell: guess it never got copied over: kdevelop for trusty https://launchpad.net/~sgclark/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu/+packages
[10:11] <sgclark> ok hmm
[10:13] <bukai> Riddell: I have the code for kubuntu.org, I need the code for test.kubuntu.co.uk.
[10:45] <Tm_T> bah, I'm hitting kernel display driver bug apparently
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:50] <sgclark> hiyas
[10:56] <yofel> apachelogger: nope
[11:50] <Riddell> sgclark: aah hah
[11:50] <Riddell> sgclark: are you able to take care of that?
[11:50] <sgclark> Riddell: sure thing, backports right?
[11:50] <Riddell> sgclark: yep
[11:50] <sgclark> k
[11:51] <sgclark> Riddell: done
[11:52] <Riddell> kfunk:  kdevelop backport done
[11:52] <kfunk> wow, thanks!
[11:52] <Riddell> kfunk: just hug sgclark to finish
[11:52] <sgclark> still fighting with qwt, being yucky to package
[11:53] <Riddell> oh? what's up with it?
[11:53] <sgclark> had to fiddle to get mathml to build, had to fix patch to apply, and now going through miles of lintain erors
[11:53] <sgclark> s/erors/errors/
[11:53] <kubotu> sgclark meant: "had to fiddle to get mathml to build, had to fix patch to apply, and now going through miles of lintain errors"
[12:02] <Riddell> new board! https://trello.com/b/3s11MoXD/15-04
[12:03] <sgclark> board not found
[12:04] <Riddell> sgclark: made public, try now
[12:04] <sgclark> found :) ty
[12:05] <Riddell> now we need a list of what's missing from Plasma 5
[12:06] <sgclark> ok
[12:12] <Riddell> what else is missing?
[12:12] <sgclark> I added one
[12:12] <Riddell> saw that thanks
[12:12] <sgclark> will add more as I think of them
[12:12] <Riddell> user manager?
[12:12] <sgclark> ahh yes
[12:39] <lordievader> Riddell: Would it be an idea to add to !plasma5 that for Utopic the Kubuntu Next ppa is available?
[12:39] <Riddell> !plasma5
[12:40] <Riddell> needs a link to ppa instructions
[12:40] <Riddell> needs a link to https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Packages#Kubuntu
[12:40] <Riddell> lordievader: want to add that?
[12:42] <lordievader> Err if I would know how.. and I'm a bit busy at the moment.
[12:46] <Riddell> bukai: sorry I've not replied
[12:46] <Riddell> bukai: give me a username and ssh key and I'll give you an accout on the server
[12:50] <Tm_T> is there anything I could help with 15.04 ?
[12:51] <Tm_T> hmmm, that "ensure sddm works" sounds interesting
[12:52] <Riddell> interesting but fiddly
[12:52] <Riddell> sgclark: "Default applications kcm" is a port of a kde4 kcm?
[12:52] <Tm_T> the thing is, one of my attempts with 14.10 plasma5 images was having issues with sddm
[12:53] <Riddell> lots of people have had random problems
[12:53] <Tm_T> it failed on live image with some permission issues
[12:53] <Riddell> oh and ubuntu will be moving to systemd so we need to sort that too
[12:53] <Tm_T> looks like 15.04 release will have plenty of plumbing being changed
[12:54] <Riddell> possibly, alas I've no idea how that gets decided these days
[12:54] <Riddell> probably at secret and badly timed canonical only conferences
[12:56] <Tm_T> Riddell: that would require planning
[12:59] <sgclark> Riddell: I believe that would be a port yes
[13:03] <Riddell> sgclark: yep
[13:14] <bukai> Riddell: i do not have an SSH key yet, I will set it up and send it to you ASAP.
[13:25] <Riddell> bukai: put it on your launchpad account
[13:26] <bukai> Riddell: I need SSH for git or bzr?
[13:39] <Riddell> bukai: both
[13:39] <Riddell> kde git and launchpad bzr use ssh keys
[13:39] <Riddell> and ssh into the kubuntu server uses ssh keys
[13:39] <Riddell> they're much better than using a password
[13:41] <bukai> can you please provide me the links to set up the ssh keys ?
[13:41] <bukai> Riddell: ^^
[13:47] <Riddell> bukai: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/CreatingAnSSHKeyPair
[13:48] <bukai> Riddell:  thanks,  btw I have started adding meta tags to the kubuntu.org , should I go ahead and add the description and keywords myself? 
[13:54] <Riddell> bukai: yeah
[13:54] <Riddell> then propose a merge and we'll comment
[13:55] <Riddell> should we switch to plasma 5? please reply to my e-mail on kubuntu-devel
[13:55] <bukai> Let me check my email.
[13:56]  * sgclark replied
[14:00]  * bukai feels like an idiot.
[14:06] <Riddell> bukai: what's up?
[14:07] <bukai> Riddell: I thought the last thing you said was addressed to me .
[14:07] <Riddell> bukai: to everyone including you :)
[14:09] <bukai> Ah! But I had sent a request to be in the kubuntu-devel mailing list ,  but I did not get the confirmation or your mail :(
[14:10] <Riddell> bukai: what's your e-mail? I'll add you
[14:11] <bukai> Riddell:  subhajitm6@gmail.com
[14:11] <Riddell> Successfully subscribed:
[14:11] <Riddell> subhajitm6@gmail.com 
[14:11] <bukai> Thanks. :)
[14:16]  * bukai leaves for dinner , brb.
[14:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/10/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t14:58
[16:43] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1384355 for your SRU consideration
[16:46] <Riddell> ScottK: any further testing needed for bug 1335639 or will that be good on wednesday?
[16:47] <ScottK> Riddell: owncloud is already removed from utopic.  The font thing should be good.
[17:19] <Riddell> ScottK: the sru is for trusty and precise
[18:00] <ScottK> Oh.
[18:31] <mhall119> hello everyone, I'm still looking for an Ubuntu Online Summit track lead from the Kubuntu community. The main responsibility will be asking other people to propose and run sessions during the actual UOS event (Nov. 12-14), and possibly helping presenters setup their hangouts during the event itself. Is there anybody here who would be able to help us with that?
[18:34] <Riddell> mhall119: I doubt we need a track but I can look at doing a session
[18:35] <Riddell> sgclark: want to help me do a all about kubuntu session?
[18:35] <sgclark> Riddell: yes
[18:35] <mhall119> Riddell: it's the users track, I'm just trying to get representation from as many flavors as I can get
[18:36] <mhall119> for sessions things like showing off what's in new in Plasma 5 would be nice, but having a track lead to help recruit and schedule those sessions is what I'm after today
[18:37] <sgclark> mhall119: put me down. Scarlett Clark ~sgclark
[18:38] <mhall119> sgclark: thanks!
[18:38] <mhall119> sgclark: I'll send out mass emails later this week with instructions and links for all the track leads
[18:39] <sgclark> mhall119: great thanks
[19:26]  * Sick_Rimmit arrives with a crash and a cloud of dust
[19:26] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm here
[19:30] <sgclark> hiyas
[19:32] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Hi..
[19:33] <Sick_Rimmit> sorry lost my channel list, and stuff there for a second.. I think I'm all good now
[19:33] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: How r u today ?
[19:33] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: fighting with a apcakge, otherwise good, yourself?
[19:33] <sgclark> err package
[19:34] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm good, looking forward to working with you :-)
[19:37] <sgclark> lol 7?
[19:38]  * Sick_Rimmit DOH!!!
[19:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Crickey I think I am having a Frank Spencer moment
[19:45] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: OK, wann point me at something I can break ?
[19:45] <sgclark> looking
[19:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Excellent
[19:55] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkpeople/+bug/1372435
[19:56] <Sick_Rimmit> Right OK.. 
[19:56] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: apt-get source libkpeople should fetch 0.2.25
[19:56] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: then cd libkpeople-0.2.2
[19:57] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: and type uscan and it will grab the new sources
[19:57] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: and type uscan and it will grab the new tar rather
[19:58] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: then in theory you should be able to go through your initial notes for packaging it. If you have questions, I am here for a bit, but been fighting with this package for 10 hours, so not sure how much longer.
[19:58] <Sick_Rimmit> OK grabbing sources
[19:59] <Sick_Rimmit> running uscan
[19:59] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah ha, what a clever tool
[19:59] <sgclark> :)
[20:00] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, this is good, let me see what I can do..
[20:01] <sgclark> you will wnt to run dch first, make sure the version is changed to new one and initial comment along the lines of "New Upstream Release"
[20:04] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: be sure to have this set in your .bashrc so dch picks up your email. export DEBEMAIL=sgclark@kubuntu.org
[20:04]  * Sick_Rimmit riffles through previous packaging, notes 
[20:04] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: obviously use your email and not mine
[20:05] <Sick_Rimmit> 10-4, I'll check .bashrc
[20:13] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: if you are going to do alot of packaging I highly recommend schroot for all the buillds. aka kde4 plasma5 trusty-utopic-vivid
[20:13] <sgclark> http://blogs.igalia.com/eocanha/2013/12/19/using-schroot-to-have-a-stable-and-transplantable-development-environment/
[20:14] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Does pbuilder do that for you ?
[20:14] <Sick_Rimmit> I have used pbuilder before
[20:14] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: I use both.
[20:18] <Sick_Rimmit> Ooo. just skimmed over that, this looks really useful
[20:21] <Sick_Rimmit> OK... Here is where I am
[20:22] <Sick_Rimmit> Have run dch, and updated change log, targetting utopic, as I am assuming we'll release as an update, not hold back.
[20:22] <Sick_Rimmit> dch made changes to working directory
[20:23] <Sick_Rimmit> I have a 0.2.2-0unbuntu1.dsc but no such file for 0.30
[20:23] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: yeah, I suspect we should be building for vivid at somepoint soon, I need to find that out myself
[20:24] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: did you run debuild?
[20:24] <Sick_Rimmit> I think sources are in place, am going to try that now
[20:31] <Sick_Rimmit> I have some dependency issues, for kde-dev files. I could install to my main installation, but perhaps I would be better to create an environment with pbuilder, and try to build there, thoughts ?
[20:31] <sgclark> yeah, that is the main reason to use shroot/pbuilder envirohnments, so as to not muck up your environment
[20:32] <Sick_Rimmit> Yes, I think I'll set one up
[20:37]  * Sick_Rimmit some things are coming back to me now, I think I may understand some of this
[20:43] <Sick_Rimmit> So in a moment once pbuilder finishes, I am goung to try builddeb -S to generate a 0.3.0-0ubuntu1.dsc file that pbuilder can have a crack at
[20:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Nope, that's a bzr sub command.. I this is apt-get..
[20:45] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: debuild -S
[20:46] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah thanks..
[20:46] <Sick_Rimmit> it failes, but I will try to resolve
[20:48] <Sick_Rimmit> Arrghh, I've broke it
[20:49] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: broke what?
[20:49] <Sick_Rimmit> It wants a dpkg-source --commit.. which I did, but its now asking for a patch name
[20:49] <Sick_Rimmit> Perhaps I missed a step, after dch
[20:49] <Sick_Rimmit> So its saying "Enter the desired patch name: "
[20:50] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: that means something in the source directory changed. This is not what you want I suspect.
[20:50] <Sick_Rimmit> I think I'll try 0.3.0-0ubunut2
[20:50] <Sick_Rimmit> I think my local source differs from upstream, which is correct,
[20:50] <sgclark> You can start over by copying the debian directory into a new unpacked source is easiest
[20:51] <sgclark> it sould not be correct unless you are patching something
[20:51] <Sick_Rimmit> Right OK
[20:51] <Sick_Rimmit> Aborting
[20:51] <sgclark> which is what I have been fighting with all day heh
[20:55] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm thinking..
[20:56] <Sick_Rimmit> Unpacke libkpeople-0.3.0.tar.bz2 as brought in by uscan, cd into directoy, copy /debin from libkpeople-0.2.2, then run dch in the libkpeople-0.3.0 directory. Then debuild -S
[20:57] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: yes
[20:57] <Sick_Rimmit> Excellent :-)
[20:58] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: only make changes in debian directory. Making patches is beyond todays lesson :) Hopefully one is not necessary. 
[20:58] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, understood. 
[21:02] <Sick_Rimmit> Can you remind me, there is some rule about not re tarring.
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> I am getting a compaint from debuild -S about missing appropraite original tar file
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> rick@rick-R710:~/Development/Kubuntu/packaging/libkpeople-0.3.0$ debuild -S
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> This package has a Debian revision number but there does not seem to be
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> an appropriate original tar file or .orig directory in the parent directory;
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> (expected one of libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.gz, libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.bz2,
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.lzma,  libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.xz or libkpeople-0.3.0.orig)
[21:03] <Sick_Rimmit> continue anyway? (y/n) n
[21:04] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: make sure the tar that was downloaded is named exactly like  libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.xz including underscores etc
[21:05] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah I see the problem, my working source directory upacked to a hypen.
[21:05] <Sick_Rimmit> should I just rename the orig.tar ?
[21:06] <sgclark> yep
[21:06] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah I remember Ubuntu uses - hypen, not underscore 
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> anoying
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> rick@rick-R710:~/Development/Kubuntu/packaging/libkpeople-0.3.0$ debuild -S
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> This package has a Debian revision number but there does not seem to be
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> an appropriate original tar file or .orig directory in the parent directory;
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> (expected one of libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.gz, libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.bz2,
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.lzma,  libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.xz or libkpeople-0.3.0.orig)
[21:09] <Sick_Rimmit> continue anyway? (y/n) n
[21:10] <Sick_Rimmit> cd ../
[21:10] <Sick_Rimmit> libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.bz2
[21:10] <Sick_Rimmit> The file is there
[21:16] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: can you paste the output of ls -l for me?
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> ls -l
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> total 516
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> drwxrwxr-x 9 rick rick   4096 Oct 27 20:53 libkpeople-0.2.2
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> -rw-rw-r-- 1 rick rick   5086 Apr 28 14:28 libkpeople_0.2.2-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> -rw-rw-r-- 1 rick rick   1981 Apr 28 14:28 libkpeople_0.2.2-0ubuntu1.dsc
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> -rw-rw-r-- 1 rick rick  51337 Apr 28 14:28 libkpeople_0.2.2.orig.tar.bz2
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> drwxrwxr-x 8 rick rick   4096 Oct 27 20:58 libkpeople-0.3.0
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> -rw-r--r-- 1 rick rick   1653 Oct 27 21:13 libkpeople_0.3.0-0ubuntu1_source.build
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> lrwxrwxrwx 1 rick rick     24 Oct 27 20:53 libkpeople_0.3.0.orig.tar.bz2 -> libkpeople-0.3.0.tar.bz2
[21:17] <Sick_Rimmit> -rw-rw-r-- 1 rick rick 450560 Oct 27 20:53 libkpeople-0.3.0.tar
[21:18] <Sick_Rimmit> is it the symlink
[21:18] <Sick_Rimmit> ?
[21:18] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: perhaps, try removed the symlink and renaming the actual tar
[21:19] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah yes, well spotted, good idea
[21:21] <Sick_Rimmit> Mmm I can't re bzip it, so I'll run uscan again and get another copy
[21:22] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah ha cracked it
[21:23] <Sick_Rimmit> Successfully signed dsc and changes files
[21:23] <Sick_Rimmit> =-o
[21:23] <Sick_Rimmit> ls
[21:24] <Sick_Rimmit> right got a .dsc file :-)
[21:25] <Sick_Rimmit> Ooo its all happening now, very exciting
[21:46] <Sick_Rimmit> !pastebin
[21:49] <Sick_Rimmit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8710125/
[21:49] <Sick_Rimmit> I have a Lintian Symbols error on line 6
[21:50] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: read http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html
[21:50] <Sick_Rimmit> However, I do have the build files 
[21:50] <Sick_Rimmit> OK
[21:51] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: you want to use pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch
[21:51] <sgclark> be sure to read that though, symbols are important
[21:52] <Sick_Rimmit> So with that Lintian error, I need to fix these symbols files, and the rebuild the package correct ?
[21:52] <sgclark> yes
[21:52] <Sick_Rimmit> s/the/then/
[21:52] <kubotu> Sick_Rimmit meant: "So with that Lintian error, I need to fix thense symbols files, and the rebuild the package correct ?"
[21:53] <Sick_Rimmit> ok
[22:03] <Sick_Rimmit> Hmm, I'm unsure...
[22:04] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: about?
[22:04] <Sick_Rimmit> pkgkde-symbols
[22:05] <Sick_Rimmit> Do I do this in the top level of the sources directory i.e libkpeople-0.3.0
[22:06] <Sick_Rimmit> It wants a buildlog, but I don't want to feed it a pbuilder output
[22:06] <sgclark> pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch -v 0.3.0 ./nameofthebuildfile
[22:06] <sgclark> yes
[22:06] <sgclark> oh pbuilder.. right. one of the reasons I start in chroot
[22:06] <sgclark> hmm
[22:07] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, it says I can copy and paste the diff output 
[22:07] <Sick_Rimmit> Well, I can try it
[22:10] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah ha got it
[22:10] <Sick_Rimmit> Yes that copy and paste worked.. I pasted into a new file buildlog, and then called that
[22:10] <Sick_Rimmit> cool
[22:10] <Sick_Rimmit> :-)
[22:11] <yofel> you can safely feed it a pbuilder output though if you want. (As long as that contains the diff
[22:11] <yofel> )
[22:11] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah right, in that case I will tee the output in future 
[22:11] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, trying the build again
[22:12] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: were there any #MISSING ? things get complicated if so
[22:13] <Sick_Rimmit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8710417/
[22:13] <Sick_Rimmit> I think it went well
[22:14] <sgclark> ok
[22:15] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm beginning to realise that this isn't something you can read about
[22:16] <Sick_Rimmit> You just have to do it to experience the different problems, and develop confidence through practice
[22:16] <sgclark> yes
[22:16] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm gonna need alot of help from you sgclark
[22:17] <Sick_Rimmit> OOoo pretty shiine cmake build output
[22:18] <Sick_Rimmit> Nah it blew out again, same symbols problem
[22:18] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm going to patch with a full pbuilder log
[22:18] <Sick_Rimmit> and try again
[22:18] <yofel> did you rebuild the source package after applying the diff?
[22:19] <Sick_Rimmit> Nope
[22:19] <Sick_Rimmit> doh!!
[22:19] <yofel> ;)
[22:21] <Sick_Rimmit> ls
[22:35] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, I'm done for tonight
[22:36] <Sick_Rimmit> I'll need to batchpatch the KDE symbols, and debuild -S and pbuild again tomorrow. I don;t think the patching worked properly from my hacked diff file
[22:36] <sgclark> ok, I need to cook dinner and such so that works lol
[22:37] <Sick_Rimmit> Thank sgclark, I have a meeting tomorrow evening, but I hope to be able to try again after that, probably around 21:00 UK TIme
[22:38] <Sick_Rimmit> So it might be Weds that we catch up next. I'll keep bashing at it and asking questions in here
[22:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Until I get booted that it :-)
[22:38] <Sick_Rimmit> Thanks all
[22:38] <Sick_Rimmit> ttfn
[22:38] <sgclark> :)