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zeroaccesscan someone assist me with udtc? I was running the command udtc android when I had a hardware failure and now when I try and run I receive an error.05:32
* mlankhorst waves06:58
* didrocks at CDG airport! Soon back home :)07:58
willcookegrumble grumble jet lag09:08
didrockshey willcooke!09:10
* didrocks grumble grumble not enough sleep on plane :p09:11
willcooke:D09:12
dpmhi desktoppers, good morning, everyone got home allright?09:12
didrocksdpm: not fully home yet, I'm in CDG. Boarding to Lyon is about to start (so should be home by 2PM)09:13
didrockshow about you?09:13
didrocksI'm only half-home because they at least speak French :p09:13
dpm:)09:13
didrocksdpm: how was your flight back home?09:14
dpmdidrocks, had an uneventful trip, so all good. Managed to do some sightseeing in Georgetown in the afternoon on Sunday before leaving, that was good09:14
didrocksdpm: oh nice!09:15
darkxstwhats with all the grumbly desktoper's ;)09:15
didrocksdarkxst: heh, most of them are still travelling (like I) :)09:16
didrockseither because of long flight, or leaving yesterday09:16
didrocksargh, delayed boarding :(09:16
didrocksweather in CDG is crap, I didn't even see the track before we touched it when landing, was quite surprising…09:16
willcookehi mlankhorst09:22
mlankhorstheya09:24
willcookemlankhorst, welcome back :)  I've got a load of admin work to get through today, but I'll set up a meeting for us some time this week09:28
willcookemlankhorst, in the meantime if there is anything you need just let me know09:28
darkxstI see09:31
didrocksok, commit pushed, inbox 0, boarding in progress. Talk to you later guys!09:31
willcookel8r didrocks09:31
didrocksgood luck with the admin part :)09:31
darkxsthey seb12809:33
darkxstwas wondering if you are ok with keeping gnome-icon-theme for the ubuntu delta09:34
darkxstthat way we can just sync adwaita-icon-theme for 3.1409:34
darkxst(there are probably a couple of icons that will need to be copied across but nothing major)09:35
Laney'for the ubuntu delta' = ?09:37
Laneywe need to get that into main as a build-dep of some stuff anyway09:37
mlankhorstwillcooke: sure09:40
seb128hey desktopers!09:42
seb128@g-i-t, what Laney asked09:42
meetingologyseb128: Error: "g-i-t," is not a valid command.09:42
willcookemorning seb12809:43
seb128Laney, btw, saw bug #138605709:43
ubot5bug 1386057 in evince (Ubuntu) "Merge evince 3.14.1-1 from debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138605709:43
seb128did you start on that?09:43
LaneyI commented on the erroneous sync request09:43
Laneybut no I didnt' review the merge09:43
LaneyI have PP ctomorrow afternoon so just assign it to me09:43
darkxstLaney, gnome-icon-theme is split out into two packages, one with icons missing from humanity and the other with everything else10:10
pittiGood afternoon12:30
desrtpitti: hi!12:30
desrthome safe?12:30
pittihey desrt12:32
pittidesrt: not quite, currently in Munich main station12:32
desrtDB still acting up?12:32
pittidesrt: nope, working well :) ICE is just starting12:32
desrtnice12:32
pittiso I'll be home in about an hour12:32
pittithe flight was quite well, I even slept for 4 h or so12:33
pittiand I still had an awesome day in DC yesterday12:33
desrt:)12:33
desrtglad to hear12:33
desrtdidrocks: hey :)12:33
didrockshello again the Internet! :)12:33
didrockshey desrt ;)12:33
didrocksuneventful travel?12:34
desrttotally12:34
desrtthe most interesting thing that happened is that just as we were about to take off they stopped everything and said "uh... it seems that we're missing a lot of bags.  we're going to try to get that sorted."12:34
pittisalut didrocks ! as-tu rentrer d'accord ?12:34
desrtand 15 minutes later we were off12:34
pittirentré12:34
didrocksdesrt: with uncertainty that your bag is in? :)12:35
desrti got a shiny TSA sticker on my bag12:35
desrtmaybe that's why it was delayed?12:35
didrockspitti: très bien! aucun problème. Attendu un peu longtemps à Paris (d'où mes messages sur IRC ce matin ^), mais c'est tout! :)12:35
pittididrocks: as-tu recevoir ta baggage cette fois ? :-)12:35
didrocksdesrt: all YOUR fault! :)12:35
didrockspitti: héhé oui! Je vais pouvoir faire de la lessive ;)12:35
didrockspitti: et toi, tout s'est bien passé ?12:36
desrtpitti: they never forget your bag on the way home -- that's too easy to cope with :)12:36
pittididrocks: oui; je suis dans le dernier train à Augsburg maintenant12:36
didrocksdesrt: wrong, happened to me once! :)12:36
didrocksdesrt: didn't need to even wait on the first luggage to arrive, everything was already prepared and they called me12:36
pittidesrt: I've never forgotten mine in any direction :)12:36
didrocksand 3 hours later, got it at home :)12:37
didrockswas a NICE service :)12:37
desrtthis happened to me as well, in canary islands12:37
didrockspitti: ah, bientôt rentré donc !12:37
desrti think they've gotten quite used to madrid losing people's bags there :)12:37
didrocksdesrt: direct flight or connecting?12:37
didrocksahah, madrid12:37
didrocksyeah :)12:37
desrtthey called a long list of names so there was a line, but it wasn't too bad12:38
pittididrocks: pas de problème -- Deutsche Bahn est jamais en grève :-P12:38
didrockspitti: contrairement à Lufthansa ? :p12:38
didrocksdesrt: urgh, was better for me, it was only me, so I was even able to catchup an earlier train than if I had to wait for my luggage :/12:39
desrtso does anyone know where i download the sdk source from?12:40
pittiwow, this is a brand new train with apparently brand new internet, too12:41
desrti want to figure out what's inside the guts of ubuntu::connectivity::NetworkingStatus12:41
desrtpitti: i hear the brand new internet is really boring.  nobody is on it yet.12:41
desrtstick with us on the old one :)12:41
pittibut it's really fast!12:41
pittiwell, for starters, you guys are in it12:41
didrockspitti: desrt didn't say we were not boring :p12:44
desrtdidrocks: do you know where the sdk source is?12:44
didrocksdesrt: I was going to point you to the qml one, then, I see you want the platform-api or qtubuntu one12:45
didrocksdesrt: I'm looking which one of both contains the connectivity part, one sec12:45
desrti'm looking for this one: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/networkingstatus/revision/136912:46
didrockshum, connectivity-qt1 doesn't seem in the ubuntu namespace though12:46
didrocksbut yeah, seems it's that one12:47
didrockslet me find the source so that you don't need to apt-get source as you can't ;)12:47
desrti have a vm :)12:47
didrocksoh, an utopic one?12:47
desrtya12:47
didrocksso, just apt-get source libconnectivity-qt1-dev12:47
desrtthx12:48
didrocksyw!12:48
didrocksUbuntu Connectivity Qt API12:48
willcookeogra_, did that strange apt issue I saw last week get sorted out in the end?  The one Laney spoke to you about?  Do I need to do anything?12:48
didrocksdesrt: ok, so we didn't mark the package name in the ubuntu namespace, but it's ubuntu specific12:48
ogra_willcooke, didnt get solved yet (none of these packages should even be installed on a desktop) i will work out an SRU this week for the dependency issue at least12:49
willcookeogra_, thanks12:49
desrtdidrocks: ya.. this is what confused me12:50
desrtlooks like we have a separate dbus service already that looks at NetworkManager and republishes a new interface com.ubuntu.connectivity112:50
desrtparty.12:50
didrocksdesrt: from another package, do you have the filename of the service file?12:50
didrocksdesrt: breakfast party? ;)12:51
desrti'm guessing /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/com.ubuntu.connectivity1.service12:51
didrocksnope12:51
didrocksor rtm-specific only12:51
desrtwas just a guess :)12:51
desrtya... seems to be on the phone only12:51
didrocksyeah, but if things would be logical… :)12:52
didrockswithout the 1 either…12:52
desrthuh12:52
desrtseems to be coming from the network menu UI?12:52
didrockshum? You are starting to scare me :)12:52
desrtremove the system- part from that filename?12:53
didrocksI only used the filename, still poking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ + dlocate12:54
desrtit's not too important12:54
didrocksthe easiest would to have a krylin device so dpkg -S the file12:55
desrtthis will indeed reduce the amount of code running in the dash12:55
desrtso that's an improvement12:55
desrttoo bad it comes at the cost of more code in another process12:55
desrtbut that code is already there, so meh :)12:55
didrocksyou are going to use this dbus service? (even if it's owned by the network menu UI?)12:55
desrti'm not sure that it is12:55
desrti only found a bug about the API that was filed against network menu12:56
xnoxwell one can chroot into krylin device image, if one first puts qemu static into it.12:56
didrocksthere is no service in the libconnectivity* package source12:56
desrtxnox: hey!  how's your new world treating you?12:56
didrockshey xnox :)12:56
xnoxhola, hola.12:56
xnoxdesrt: good good. finally sorted out irc proxies to stay connected to all worlds at the same time.12:57
desrtdidrocks: anyway.. i stopped caring :)12:58
desrtthis does indeed seem to be better12:59
didrocksdesrt: found nothing on the Internet12:59
didrockslet's use the ogra's hammer still :)12:59
didrocksogra_: mind grepping for "connectivity" in /usr/share/dbus-1/*/* ?12:59
didrockson your krylin device?12:59
* desrt finds himself wanting a device for the first time12:59
pittiyay, in Augsburg; see you later13:00
didrockspitti: see you! :)13:00
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ogra_didrocks, sorry, i just did a brandnew bootstrap flash13:08
didrocksogra_: that's good right? you will be able to grep on your new flashy installation ;)13:08
ochosilarsu: hey, since i talked to you last about gtkheaderbars and default apps, i was wondering about two things14:06
ochosifirst, why is simplescan using a headerbar? (or is it not installed by default in ubuntu?)14:06
ochosiand second, i've noticed some corruption in evince, likely caused by the headerbar->toolbar patch. have you ever seen that? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-10-27-124835.php14:06
ochosi(anyone else being in the knowing feel free to reply ^ )14:07
willcookeochosi, larsu is off this week.  Perhaps desrt might be able to advise?14:19
ochosiah, thanks willcooke!14:19
ochosigood to know14:19
ochosiwhat i probably haven't clarified is that i'm asking sorta "on behalf of xubuntu", so i've no idea what these things look like in unity (probably they're just fine, dunno)14:20
desrtochosi: not really familiar with these issues, sorry :(14:22
ochosidesrt: no worries, i can wait until larsu is back14:23
mhall119halp! I upgraded to 14.10 last night, now mediascanner-service-2.0 is accessing my (spinning metal) disk constantly14:53
mhall119I kill it only to have it respawn and continue it's assault14:53
stgrabermhall119: just remove it? as far as I can tell by looking around here, you shouldn't have it on a desktop install15:00
mhall119stgraber: maybe remnants from some early touch related PPAs15:01
mhall119hmmmm, removing it wants to also remove ubuntu-sdk*15:02
stgraberbah, who needs that :)15:02
mhall119anyway I can kill this without uninstalling the SDK?15:05
ogra_stgraber, it also comes with desktop-next ... people having that installed alongside will see a lot of unwanted services atm ... we need to clean the seeds15:06
ogra_or make these services start conditionally15:06
didrocksmhall119: do you have a ~/Video directory? I heard that mediascanner2 reintroduce the bug that mediascanner1 had (like, defaulting to indexing ~ if ~/Videos or whatever your XDG paths point to doesn't exist)15:07
mhall119didrocks: yes I have ~/Videos/15:07
mhall119but it only has 105 files,and it's been scanning for almost 2 hours15:08
didrocksmhall119: and the music dir?15:08
mhall1191066 files15:08
didrocksok, dunno then, it shouldn't block you, you should ping jamesh15:09
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tkamppeterwillcooke, hi16:08
tkamppeterwillcooke, IPP Everywhere SRU bug 138624116:08
ubot5bug 1386241 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu Trusty) "Add the full IPP Everywhere support from Utopic to Trusty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138624116:08
willcooketkamppeter, awesome!  Thanks16:09
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willcookeI'm outta here - tata19:21
Noskcajseb128, I've contacted gnome-system-monitor's upstream dev and he's going to have the patch done in the next month or two. Sorry for not checking for headerbar while testing19:45
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