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slangasekxnox: context.append(ntp)04:47
dholbachgood morning07:12
mvopitti: hello! is it ok to use libsystemd-dev in vivid now? it seems to be in vivid-proposed at this point. I'm looking at the dbus and util-linux merge right now09:11
didrocksmvo: hey! I think pitti is just landing in frankfurt at this time, not sure he will be available until late today (if any)09:12
mvodidrocks: aha, thanks09:12
LaneyNoskcaj: If you make it final I can copy it from there09:35
LaneyI used lp:ubuntu-archive-tools copy-package which takes an optional distribution as source09:36
seb128dholbach, Noskcaj: I see you synced gnome-system-monitor, I didn't look at it yet but I've a feeling it's going to use GtkHeaderBar/csd and not work under Unity and that it shouldn't have been synced09:43
dholbachseb128, ugh, sorry about that09:48
seb128dholbach, no worry, but better to be careful with GNOME updates, feel free to let those to desktop if you are unsure09:48
dholbachwill do09:49
xnoxslangasek: that was no joke.10:03
xnoxmvo__: libsystemd-dev is just a combination of all previous libsystemd-daemon-dev, libsystemd-*-dev etc. So in your code you should typically use either or, to stay compatible across old and new style libsystemd library10:04
xnox(old was split into many, new one is just a single thing for all things systemd)10:04
xnoxcjwatson: you almost gave me a heart attack =)10:04
xnoxcjwatson: you should've started the blog post with "TLDR; UE -> LP" =))))10:05
xnoxev++10:05
xnoxwell, it is under UE these days, so I guess UC -> CI is more correct.10:08
LocutusOfBorg1xnox, FYI lucene++ built successfully :)10:13
xnoxLocutusOfBorg1: good =)10:13
* xnox drops the connection quickly10:17
xnoxshould be connected properly all the time now.10:32
mlankhorsthm so far I manually disabled xdiagnose prior to every release to prevent uploading data after release, but it seems the script checks lsb_release -d for 'development', so would it be ok to drop that upload?11:31
xnoxslangasek: systemd-networkd is a generic provider though. Such that if a different ntp implementation is chosen it should integrate with the provided facility.11:50
xnoxapw: infinity: initramfs-tools merge - is it going to happen for vivid? otherwise split /usr cannot be booted under systemd in ubuntu, yet can be in debian.11:52
apwxnox, i am planning on it, but it remains dependant on the console-setup merge11:52
xnoxapw: right, yes, i recall that as a blocker11:54
apwwill bring it up again with those doing that merge, to see where we aer at11:55
xnoxlet's pick a victim.11:56
xnoxLaney: would you like to finish up console-setup merge? =)11:56
mdeslaurxnox: it's was sad not seeing you at the sprint11:58
xnoxmdeslaur: i know. i was a bit sentimental looking at all the unicorn pictures =(11:58
xnoxwhen everyone is next in London we should meet up.11:59
xnoxOr like sponsor external people to events =)))11:59
mdeslaurxnox: your name was mentioned multiple times, you must have subconsciously heard it :)11:59
xnoxi have tough decisions ahead of me: stay on trusty on 1/3 machines, stay on utopic on 2/3 machines, or upgrade to vivid.12:00
xnoxthis is first time where I have non-devel release machines, feels awkward.12:01
* ogra_ always has his infrastructure on latest LTS and laptop on latest devel12:01
mdeslaurnostalgic for the nosebleeds? :)12:01
xnoxmdeslaur: i guess i should upload more SRUs to fix things in trusty.12:03
xnoxmdeslaur: and there are more rpm friendly tools in vivid. e.g. obs-build, zypper, etc.12:03
xnoxspeaking of which i have a pam patch for sudo.12:04
mdeslauroh, huh, obs-build is the suse thing?12:04
xnoxmdeslaur: yeah, but it can build rpm for any rpm & deb based distros in a chroot (optionally in kvm, or lxc)12:05
mdeslaurright...cool12:05
xnoxwell any package for any distro.12:05
xnoxit's worse than native sbuild, but does the job if one wants to do build for everything.12:06
* mdeslaur -> reboot12:06
* mdeslaur grumbles at utopic not mounting nfs at boot12:10
pittiHello12:28
pittiNoskcaj: I'm fairly sure that we can sync g-i, but please let me check12:29
pittimvo__: libsystemd-dev> yes indeed, that's a (mini-)transition that I'd like to do ASAP; using it is okay, and I think Debian mostly already did it12:29
pittiNoskcaj: yeah, g-i looks fine, and we'll get mvo__'s multiarch fixes \o/12:31
pittiwgrant: I approved the templates in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/+source/ciborium/+imports?field.filter_status=all&field.filter_extension=all about a week ago; any idea why the corresponding PO files don't get imported automatically?12:50
pittiwgrant: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/+source/ciborium/+pots/ciborium has translations now, but it seems there's still a lot sitting in the queue12:51
pittiwgrant: I approved the armhf pot and deleted the other arches, but they are waiting on all arches12:51
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dgadomskicjwatson: hi13:01
dgadomskicjwatson: we discussed some ubiquity issues during the sprint, I have reported some bugs about it (#1386113 #1386131 #1386153)13:02
dgadomskicjwatson: I would appreciate taking a look at them (there is also the patch you provided attached to the relevant bug)13:02
xnoxbug 138611313:04
ubottubug 1386113 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Preseeding encrypted lvm fails with "An error occurred while creating the keyfile"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138611313:04
xnoxbug 138613113:04
ubottubug 1386131 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Preseeding encrypted lvm fails instead of asking for password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138613113:04
xnoxdgadomski: as i wrote most of the ubitquity bits around it, reviewed your patch. Looks good.13:06
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dgadomskithanks xnox, all the credit goes to cjwatson, he just passed me this patch off the record to test it13:07
dgadomskifor some reason ubottu have not picked up #138615313:08
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cjwatsonxnox: if there's anything you happen to be in a position to do, that would be great, thanks.  I'm on holiday until Wednesday and won't be looking at dgadomski's bugs until then.13:19
cjwatson(so not going to be paying much attention here, but seems at least worth saying "not right now" so that potentially others can chime in.)13:19
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geserdo the "Failed upload" errors in vivid-propsed (all universe) need a no-change rebuild to get accepted? or should they get investigated and the package removed once for all instead of (re)moving it each release?13:34
xnoxcjwatson: ack.13:37
rbasakgeser: what's the package? Usually you can retry.13:37
geserrbasak: e.g. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/188058747/upload_6484807_log.txt (The following files are already published in Primary Archive for Ubuntu)13:41
geseror https://launchpadlibrarian.net/188057152/upload_6484759_log.txt13:42
rbasakgeser: looks like it's some kind of more general issue maybe to do with with the Arch: all move from i386 to amd64.13:45
rbasakinfinity: ^^13:46
rbasakLaunchpad seems to think it needs a build, when it doesn't.13:46
rbasakMaybe safe to ignore unless infinity says otherwise?13:46
geserusually I retry those "Failed to upload" errors but I'm not sure this cases fall into the "Usually" category when I look at the publishing history with the move from utopic-proposed to vivid-proposed13:47
geserthat's why I ask13:47
rbasakgeser: I think these ones are "special", and somebody who knows more will come along soon :)13:47
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cjwatsongeser,rbasak: yeah, leave those alone for now, we identified a Launchpad bug here during the opening process with the nominatedarchindep switch, and will be working on fixing it next week14:59
cjwatson(briefly, AIUI, it's resolving "architecture independent" to a concrete architecture too early)15:00
xnoxogasawara: thanks =)15:44
ogasawaraxnox: I miss you already :)15:44
xnoxogasawara: when are you in London next? Drinks are in order.15:45
ogasawaraxnox: definitely.  I'm not sure when the next trip is, but I suspect beginning of the year sometime.15:46
xnoxogasawara: cool ;-)15:46
xnoxogasawara: now on to reading unlocked ancient bug reports =)15:47
infinityxnox: It's going to happen.15:59
infinityxnox: (re: initramfs-tools merge)15:59
xnoxinfinity: oh, i thought you mean drinks in London. Everyone has been so nice to me lately, i miss hanging out with you.15:59
xnoxinfinity: are you doing the console-setup merge then?16:00
infinityxnox: vorlon was doing the merge, but got sidetracked.  One of us will finish it off.16:00
* xnox ponders if vorlon highlights on vorlon on freenode.16:01
infinityxnox: Not sure, but I used the nick intentionally to not highlight. :P16:01
* infinity goes to find breakfast.16:01
xnoxinfinity: my health advisor says that double espresso and a cigarette do not count as breakfast.16:02
Riddelljcastro: what's the best link for an owncloud charm? https://jujucharms.com/precise/owncloud-16/?text=owncloud#summary ?16:03
infinityxnox: (a) your health advisor sounds like a twit, (b) I'm going out with another human who eats normal food, so I may follow suit.16:03
jcastroRiddle: https://jujucharms.com/precise/owncloud/ will always point to the right place.16:03
Riddelljcastro: even once precise is old?16:04
ogra_xnox, fix your health advisor ! serves me since years16:04
ogra_(you can at least get 44 that way ... proven)16:04
jcastroRiddell, we haven't pushed it to trusty yet, but we can do that16:05
jcastroRiddell, but to answer your question, yeah that's a canonical URL and won't change16:08
Riddelljcastro: great16:10
jcastroI'll ask the maintainer to push it to trusty asap as well16:11
jcastroI wasn't aware we hadn't done that16:11
slangasekinfinity, xnox: I have the merge done and building, but it needs some iteration to check for regressions... and it needs installer changes, so I want to test quite a bit before uploading16:34
slangasekinfinity, xnox: and yes, I highlight on vorlon here, so thbbt ;)16:34
xnoxslangasek: alright, what about the UTC patches for the installer authored by you. I don't recall those getting fixed up based on Colin's feedback. and getting merged.16:44
slangasekxnox: correct, they haven't been yet; the screams have been muted post-14.04 release, so it fell down the priority list16:46
slangasekxnox: btw, do you want some of these 14.10 plymouth regressions assigned to you? :)16:47
xnoxslangasek: I'd like to still look into flickerless boot regresion, but i'm not that optimistic about it.16:47
xnoxslangasek: are there more? which apw didn't fix yet?16:48
slangasekxnox: I think being unable to enter passphrases at boot time is a higher priority regression than flicker (which, btw, apw has said vt.handoff support is still there somewhere)16:48
xnoxslangasek: i thought apw's upload fixed the passphrase bug.16:49
apwyep confirmed that patch is still in there16:49
slangasekxnox: bug #1386005, bug #1383851, bug #137070716:49
ubottubug 1386005 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Password not accepted graphical boot for encrypted root system" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138600516:49
ubottubug 1383851 in linux (Ubuntu) "Cannot enter LVM encryption password in qemu with -vga std" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138385116:49
ubottubug 1370707 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Plymouth does not display the graphical boot splash" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137070716:49
xnoxnot funny =(16:49
slangasekxnox: apw's upload fixed *a* passphrase bug16:49
apwxnox, i fixed one of them, where the passphrase was being missreported/not reported back to the plymouth client16:50
slangasekthe one where you enter the password and the plymouth client mishandles it16:50
slangasekbut there are bugs where the splash screen doesn't show up, bugs where it shows up but you can't enter text, ...16:50
xnoxslangasek: so i had locally stashed patches to askpass to use proper plymouth apis, instead of stdin/stdout redirects. I can check if that performs any better.16:50
slangasekbugs where you can enter text in text mode over the top of the splash screen16:50
apwthe vga one seems to be triggered by plymouth only opening tty7 when it sees boot_vga on the /sys/* files for the device16:50
xnoxapw: correct, i configure plymouth for tty7 only at compile time.16:51
apwif i am reading plymouth right16:51
xnoxi guess i should upgrade my work laptop to 14.10 to justify fixing all of these.16:51
apwxnox, right, but it seems to only allow a "seat" to use the "terminal" for input when it sees a sysfs file of boot_vga flag set on the frambuffer etc16:51
apwwhich for efi it does not seem to be16:52
xnoxoh uefi interraction bugs. *sigh*16:52
slangasekdoes that include the case where we're getting EFI/VGA in /proc/fb despite not booting with EFI?16:54
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sage__Does Ubuntu still use upstart as its init service17:14
infinitysage__: For now, yes,.17:15
sage__Is there a definitive answer for when we will have a systemd release?17:16
coreycbinfinity: can ipxe-proposed get moved to trusty-updates?18:18
coreycbinfinity, sorry... ipxe-precise18:18
hallyninfinity: sorry, i may have misunderstood what you said last week.  thought you were pushing it out of NEW, but maybe you were talking about the other pkgs.  are we supposed to ask someone else for a review?18:23
infinitycoreycb: That would require it being in proposed first.18:23
infinityhallyn: I can do the review, though I'm off today.18:23
infinityhallyn: Will I find that a debdiff from ipxe/precise to ipxe-precise/trusty is tiny, readable, and obvious?18:24
infinityhallyn: If so, I can give that a once-over this afternoon.18:24
coreycbinfinity, I thought it was in proposed but maybe I'm not reading it right https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=18:26
hallynit should be very obvious, lemme take a look18:26
infinitycoreycb: In the queue isn't in the archive.18:26
coreycbinfinity, k18:26
hallyninfinity: yup, debdiff is short and simple18:29
mhall119ogasawara slangasek mdeslaur will you be able to be a track lead again for the Ubuntu Development track of UOS?18:44
mdeslaurmhall119: I don't think the security team had a track last time, as we figures we were better off attending other team's tracks18:46
mdeslaurs/figures/figured/18:46
slangasekmhall119: yes18:47
mhall119mdeslaur: not a security track, just ubuntu development in general18:47
mhall119thanks slangasek18:47
mhall119mdeslaur: I just need people who help round up sessions from other people and get them on the schedule18:48
mdeslaurmhall119: let me get back to you18:50
mhall119mdeslaur: ok, thanks18:50
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hallynif i mark a bug as invalid in lp, does it still show up in normal search results?19:02
brendandhallyn, by default no - 'closed' states don't appear19:04
hallynok, thanks, i'll leave the bug in incomplete state then for ahile (maybe someone else will come along and report the same symptoms)19:05
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NoskcajLaney, If you're still around, what options do you use for copy-package?20:03
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zerickAnybodoy familiar with start-stop-daemon functions? I'm trying to start something that uses a port, but it never open that port :/22:18
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