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darkxstChaosBringer, run 'apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^'01:09
darkxstthen upgrade as normal01:09
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darkxstseanh, are you using the Adwaita theme?01:16
ChaosBringerdarkxst, k, that's what I thought (already have done that in ubuntu 14.04) lsb-release -a says ubuntu not ubuntu gnome. I read somewhere that gnome and unity don't play nice so was wondering if there was anything special, but if not, then cool02:12
ChaosBringerThanks!02:12
darkxstChaosBringer, lsd-release always reports ubuntu for all flavours02:17
darkxstand unity and GNOME play fine together02:18
seanhdarkxst: Yes (I'm using Adwaita)10:34
seanhSome window shadows (e.g. gedit) just look "wrong" - way too big and kind of jagged edges10:34
seanhOthers (e.g. terminal) look fine - much smaller10:35
darkxstseanh, I'm not seeing it here10:35
l3onseanh, screenshot please10:35
seanhdarkxst: l3on https://www.dropbox.com/s/g2ow1o8e0roxk5q/Screenshot%20from%202014-10-27%2011%3A35%3A56.png?dl=010:37
l3onseanh, it's a intel driver bug10:38
l3onseanh, you have to update to latest driver10:38
l3onor keep this package I built some days ago: https://launchpad.net/~l3on/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages10:39
l3onDO NOT USE DIRECTLY THE PPA.. keep only the packages.10:39
* l3on is wondering if gnome3-staging should provide this update .. since bug is present only in only GTK3.1410:40
seanhl3on: Do you think if I wait the driver update will come through the usual software sources and ppas that I already have?10:40
seanhIt's not a very bad bug10:40
seanhBut I could of course download and install that package quite easily10:41
l3onseanh, you are free to do what you ever want .. I just told you what the problem is and how to fix it. That's all :)10:41
darkxstl3on, we wouldn't normally ship drivers on gnome3-staging10:41
l3ondarkxst, I know.. maybe a backport in utopic is better10:42
darkxstl3on, if it was something more critical we would10:42
l3onseanh, I'm using you image for a bug-report.. can I do ?10:45
seanhl3on: Sure10:46
seanhl3on: I was just trying to ask whether I had to manually install the package to get the fix, or if I could keep things "pure" by sticking to what's in my software channels and expect the fix to come in through them eventually anyway10:47
seanhI'll probably just install the package10:47
l3onseanh, see my package version -->  2:2.99.916-0ubuntu0.110:49
l3onI did it in that way in order to get the "official update" when it comes (version is 0ubuntu0.1, means that a 0ubuntu1 or 1ubuntu1 are greater than ..)10:50
seanhOh I see, so you can manually install that package and then when the update comes through the software channel it'll automatically replace it?10:50
l3onseanh, bug 138613310:50
ubot5bug 1386133 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Please update and then backport to Utopic version 2.99.916" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138613310:50
l3onseanh, exactly10:51
seanhThanks for the info10:51
seanhLet me install the package now and reboot...10:51
seanhl3on: I can confirm your package appears to fix the issue10:58
l3onthen please report this info into the bug :)10:59
seanhSomething just thrashed my hard drive and cpu for almost an hour without stopping11:47
seanhLiterally couldn't move the mouse!11:47
seanhI switched to another terminal and ran top, thunderbird seemed to be taking a lot of cpu, and a root process called acounts-daemon11:47
seanhBut even after killing both, it went on for several more minutes11:48
seanhSeems to have stopped now, keeping top and iotop open in windows11:48
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mgedminatop is a good thing to have installed: it dumps system stats every 10 seconds to a log file and lets you browse it later12:26
mgedminyou can see which processes were created/exited during each 10s window and how much ram or disk i/o they used12:26
mgedminunusable os for a long time while hard disk is thrashing _might_ mean you ran out of ram and were swapping heavily12:27
seanhYeah I think something filled my memory12:33
seanhBut what was using 8GB of memory?12:33
seanhI think it may have something to do with having restored many gigabytes of media files, emails etc after doing a fresh ubuntu gnome install12:34
seanhI wonder if something was going nuts trying to index things12:34
yossarianukhi - got a work colleague who is having issues after upgrading to 14.10 - really slow window resizing and other desktop effects12:39
yossarianukalmost 100% its an intel driver issue12:39
yossarianuk- if I delete the 'quiet,splash' line in grub it seems to sort it out ?12:42
yossarianuk[drm:ilk_display_irq_handler] *ERROR* Pipe B FIFO underrun  -  [drm:cpt_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder B - drm:cpt_serr_int_handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder B FIFO underrun12:42
mgedminyossarianuk, can you verify that hardware gl is actually being used?  glxinfo|grep renderer12:45
yossarianuki'll ask him too...  most things are ok - just some extremely slow (like window resizing..) - btw its an upgrade from 14.04 -> -> 14.1012:46
yossarianukmy machine is similar and ok (although im also using kubuntu).12:47
yossarianukOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Desktop12:48
mgedminI once had a sluggish desktop because of some silly permissions issue with /dev/dri, which made gnome fall back to software rendering without telling me12:52
lindolhi all13:13
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mgedminokay, seriously15:13
mgedminwith gnome3-staging enabled all the gtk apps crash as soon as I press the <Menu> key15:13
mgedminor try to open a menu15:14
mgedminor push a button15:15
mgedminhow do I use apport-retrace?15:34
mgedminI need to add ppa debug symbols to my sources.list or something?15:35
mgedmin(WHY ISN'T THIS AUTOMATED?)15:35
l3onmgedmin, are u using adwaita?15:47
mgedminyes15:47
l3onintel?15:47
mgedminyes15:47
mgedmin... are you about to mention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1386133 ?15:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1386133 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Please update and then backport to Utopic version 2.99.916" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:48
l3onhttps://launchpad.net/~l3on/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages15:48
l3onthere you can find an update of driver.. try it15:48
l3onDO NOT USE THE PPA DIRECTLY, just keep the deb package you need15:48
mgedmindoes this have anything to do with apps segfaulting left and right?15:49
mgedminI can live with broken shadows for now, the segfaults are priority #115:49
* mgedmin is playing with apport-retrace -g /var/crash/_usr_bin_devhelp.1000.crash15:58
mgedmindoes anybody want to teach me gdb?16:14
uuweis anyone having problems with 14.10 and the gnome3-staging ppa?16:56
uuwei'm getting segfaults in a lot of gtk stuff16:56
uuweusually after clicking on something in nautilus or the control center16:56
uuweeven pressing ctrl in nautilus triggers it16:56
mgedminuuwe, I'm not the only one!!!!17:03
mgedmin*everything* is segfaulting everywhere17:03
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mgedminheh valgrind shows me three conditional jump/move depends on uninitialized value warnings in gtk_css_shadow_value_finish_drawing17:44
mgedminin composite_traps from cairo-xlib-render-compositor.c, actually, but the gtk_css_shadown thing is in the stack trace17:45
cyberalex4lifehello!18:02
cyberalex4lifeI have a question: for clamscan or clamfs to send me mail (on the system) do I have to install something or it just works by default18:02
cyberalex4life?18:02
mgedmincyberalex4life, I don't know for sure, but I think it may want a local MTA18:06
mgedminhey, everyone -- with the gnome3-staging ppa all my windows have minimize and maximize buttons in the title bar, why?18:07
uuwemgedmin, ok them it's not my system :)18:08
uuwegdb shows it's crashing in glib2.0 called by gtk18:10
cyberalex4lifemgedmin: In my beginnings with ubuntu I usually was installing lot's of packages from synaptic and this usually worked18:14
sebas__I've got 3 monitors as setup and I wonder how I can control which program/game starts on specific monitor?18:18
sebas__all programs start on random screens18:18
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mgedminwelp middle click in gnome 3.14 no longer lowers windows?19:36

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