[01:09] <darkxst> ChaosBringer, run 'apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^'
[01:09] <darkxst> then upgrade as normal
[01:10]  * ahoneybun flys in
[01:16] <darkxst> seanh, are you using the Adwaita theme?
[02:12] <ChaosBringer> darkxst, k, that's what I thought (already have done that in ubuntu 14.04) lsb-release -a says ubuntu not ubuntu gnome. I read somewhere that gnome and unity don't play nice so was wondering if there was anything special, but if not, then cool
[02:12] <ChaosBringer> Thanks!
[02:17] <darkxst> ChaosBringer, lsd-release always reports ubuntu for all flavours
[02:18] <darkxst> and unity and GNOME play fine together
[10:34] <seanh> darkxst: Yes (I'm using Adwaita)
[10:34] <seanh> Some window shadows (e.g. gedit) just look "wrong" - way too big and kind of jagged edges
[10:35] <seanh> Others (e.g. terminal) look fine - much smaller
[10:35] <darkxst> seanh, I'm not seeing it here
[10:35] <l3on> seanh, screenshot please
[10:37] <seanh> darkxst: l3on https://www.dropbox.com/s/g2ow1o8e0roxk5q/Screenshot%20from%202014-10-27%2011%3A35%3A56.png?dl=0
[10:38] <l3on> seanh, it's a intel driver bug
[10:38] <l3on> seanh, you have to update to latest driver
[10:39] <l3on> or keep this package I built some days ago: https://launchpad.net/~l3on/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[10:39] <l3on> DO NOT USE DIRECTLY THE PPA.. keep only the packages.
[10:40]  * l3on is wondering if gnome3-staging should provide this update .. since bug is present only in only GTK3.14
[10:40] <seanh> l3on: Do you think if I wait the driver update will come through the usual software sources and ppas that I already have?
[10:40] <seanh> It's not a very bad bug
[10:41] <seanh> But I could of course download and install that package quite easily
[10:41] <l3on> seanh, you are free to do what you ever want .. I just told you what the problem is and how to fix it. That's all :)
[10:41] <darkxst> l3on, we wouldn't normally ship drivers on gnome3-staging
[10:42] <l3on> darkxst, I know.. maybe a backport in utopic is better
[10:42] <darkxst> l3on, if it was something more critical we would
[10:45] <l3on> seanh, I'm using you image for a bug-report.. can I do ?
[10:46] <seanh> l3on: Sure
[10:47] <seanh> l3on: I was just trying to ask whether I had to manually install the package to get the fix, or if I could keep things "pure" by sticking to what's in my software channels and expect the fix to come in through them eventually anyway
[10:47] <seanh> I'll probably just install the package
[10:49] <l3on> seanh, see my package version -->  2:2.99.916-0ubuntu0.1
[10:50] <l3on> I did it in that way in order to get the "official update" when it comes (version is 0ubuntu0.1, means that a 0ubuntu1 or 1ubuntu1 are greater than ..)
[10:50] <seanh> Oh I see, so you can manually install that package and then when the update comes through the software channel it'll automatically replace it?
[10:50] <l3on> seanh, bug 1386133
[10:51] <l3on> seanh, exactly
[10:51] <seanh> Thanks for the info
[10:51] <seanh> Let me install the package now and reboot...
[10:58] <seanh> l3on: I can confirm your package appears to fix the issue
[10:59] <l3on> then please report this info into the bug :)
[11:47] <seanh> Something just thrashed my hard drive and cpu for almost an hour without stopping
[11:47] <seanh> Literally couldn't move the mouse!
[11:47] <seanh> I switched to another terminal and ran top, thunderbird seemed to be taking a lot of cpu, and a root process called acounts-daemon
[11:48] <seanh> But even after killing both, it went on for several more minutes
[11:48] <seanh> Seems to have stopped now, keeping top and iotop open in windows
[12:26] <mgedmin> atop is a good thing to have installed: it dumps system stats every 10 seconds to a log file and lets you browse it later
[12:26] <mgedmin> you can see which processes were created/exited during each 10s window and how much ram or disk i/o they used
[12:27] <mgedmin> unusable os for a long time while hard disk is thrashing _might_ mean you ran out of ram and were swapping heavily
[12:33] <seanh> Yeah I think something filled my memory
[12:33] <seanh> But what was using 8GB of memory?
[12:34] <seanh> I think it may have something to do with having restored many gigabytes of media files, emails etc after doing a fresh ubuntu gnome install
[12:34] <seanh> I wonder if something was going nuts trying to index things
[12:39] <yossarianuk> hi - got a work colleague who is having issues after upgrading to 14.10 - really slow window resizing and other desktop effects
[12:39] <yossarianuk> almost 100% its an intel driver issue
[12:42] <yossarianuk> - if I delete the 'quiet,splash' line in grub it seems to sort it out ?
[12:42] <yossarianuk> [drm:ilk_display_irq_handler] *ERROR* Pipe B FIFO underrun  -  [drm:cpt_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder B - drm:cpt_serr_int_handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder B FIFO underrun
[12:45] <mgedmin> yossarianuk, can you verify that hardware gl is actually being used?  glxinfo|grep renderer
[12:46] <yossarianuk> i'll ask him too...  most things are ok - just some extremely slow (like window resizing..) - btw its an upgrade from 14.04 -> -> 14.10
[12:47] <yossarianuk> my machine is similar and ok (although im also using kubuntu).
[12:48] <yossarianuk> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Desktop
[12:52] <mgedmin> I once had a sluggish desktop because of some silly permissions issue with /dev/dri, which made gnome fall back to software rendering without telling me
[13:13] <lindol> hi all
[15:13] <mgedmin> okay, seriously
[15:13] <mgedmin> with gnome3-staging enabled all the gtk apps crash as soon as I press the <Menu> key
[15:14] <mgedmin> or try to open a menu
[15:15] <mgedmin> or push a button
[15:34] <mgedmin> how do I use apport-retrace?
[15:35] <mgedmin> I need to add ppa debug symbols to my sources.list or something?
[15:35] <mgedmin> (WHY ISN'T THIS AUTOMATED?)
[15:47] <l3on> mgedmin, are u using adwaita?
[15:47] <mgedmin> yes
[15:47] <l3on> intel?
[15:47] <mgedmin> yes
[15:48] <mgedmin> ... are you about to mention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1386133 ?
[15:48] <l3on> https://launchpad.net/~l3on/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[15:48] <l3on> there you can find an update of driver.. try it
[15:48] <l3on> DO NOT USE THE PPA DIRECTLY, just keep the deb package you need
[15:49] <mgedmin> does this have anything to do with apps segfaulting left and right?
[15:49] <mgedmin> I can live with broken shadows for now, the segfaults are priority #1
[15:58]  * mgedmin is playing with apport-retrace -g /var/crash/_usr_bin_devhelp.1000.crash
[16:14] <mgedmin> does anybody want to teach me gdb?
[16:56] <uuwe> is anyone having problems with 14.10 and the gnome3-staging ppa?
[16:56] <uuwe> i'm getting segfaults in a lot of gtk stuff
[16:56] <uuwe> usually after clicking on something in nautilus or the control center
[16:56] <uuwe> even pressing ctrl in nautilus triggers it
[17:03] <mgedmin> uuwe, I'm not the only one!!!!
[17:03] <mgedmin> *everything* is segfaulting everywhere
[17:44] <mgedmin> heh valgrind shows me three conditional jump/move depends on uninitialized value warnings in gtk_css_shadow_value_finish_drawing
[17:45] <mgedmin> in composite_traps from cairo-xlib-render-compositor.c, actually, but the gtk_css_shadown thing is in the stack trace
[18:02] <cyberalex4life> hello!
[18:02] <cyberalex4life> I have a question: for clamscan or clamfs to send me mail (on the system) do I have to install something or it just works by default
[18:02] <cyberalex4life> ?
[18:06] <mgedmin> cyberalex4life, I don't know for sure, but I think it may want a local MTA
[18:07] <mgedmin> hey, everyone -- with the gnome3-staging ppa all my windows have minimize and maximize buttons in the title bar, why?
[18:08] <uuwe> mgedmin, ok them it's not my system :)
[18:10] <uuwe> gdb shows it's crashing in glib2.0 called by gtk
[18:14] <cyberalex4life> mgedmin: In my beginnings with ubuntu I usually was installing lot's of packages from synaptic and this usually worked
[18:18] <sebas__> I've got 3 monitors as setup and I wonder how I can control which program/game starts on specific monitor?
[18:18] <sebas__> all programs start on random screens
[19:36] <mgedmin> welp middle click in gnome 3.14 no longer lowers windows?