[01:09] ChaosBringer, run 'apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop^' [01:09] then upgrade as normal [01:10] * ahoneybun flys in [01:16] seanh, are you using the Adwaita theme? [02:12] darkxst, k, that's what I thought (already have done that in ubuntu 14.04) lsb-release -a says ubuntu not ubuntu gnome. I read somewhere that gnome and unity don't play nice so was wondering if there was anything special, but if not, then cool [02:12] Thanks! [02:17] ChaosBringer, lsd-release always reports ubuntu for all flavours [02:18] and unity and GNOME play fine together [10:34] darkxst: Yes (I'm using Adwaita) [10:34] Some window shadows (e.g. gedit) just look "wrong" - way too big and kind of jagged edges [10:35] Others (e.g. terminal) look fine - much smaller [10:35] seanh, I'm not seeing it here [10:35] seanh, screenshot please [10:37] darkxst: l3on https://www.dropbox.com/s/g2ow1o8e0roxk5q/Screenshot%20from%202014-10-27%2011%3A35%3A56.png?dl=0 [10:38] seanh, it's a intel driver bug [10:38] seanh, you have to update to latest driver [10:39] or keep this package I built some days ago: https://launchpad.net/~l3on/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages [10:39] DO NOT USE DIRECTLY THE PPA.. keep only the packages. [10:40] * l3on is wondering if gnome3-staging should provide this update .. since bug is present only in only GTK3.14 [10:40] l3on: Do you think if I wait the driver update will come through the usual software sources and ppas that I already have? [10:40] It's not a very bad bug [10:41] But I could of course download and install that package quite easily [10:41] seanh, you are free to do what you ever want .. I just told you what the problem is and how to fix it. That's all :) [10:41] l3on, we wouldn't normally ship drivers on gnome3-staging [10:42] darkxst, I know.. maybe a backport in utopic is better [10:42] l3on, if it was something more critical we would [10:45] seanh, I'm using you image for a bug-report.. can I do ? [10:46] l3on: Sure [10:47] l3on: I was just trying to ask whether I had to manually install the package to get the fix, or if I could keep things "pure" by sticking to what's in my software channels and expect the fix to come in through them eventually anyway [10:47] I'll probably just install the package [10:49] seanh, see my package version --> 2:2.99.916-0ubuntu0.1 [10:50] I did it in that way in order to get the "official update" when it comes (version is 0ubuntu0.1, means that a 0ubuntu1 or 1ubuntu1 are greater than ..) [10:50] Oh I see, so you can manually install that package and then when the update comes through the software channel it'll automatically replace it? [10:50] seanh, bug 1386133 [10:50] bug 1386133 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Please update and then backport to Utopic version 2.99.916" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386133 [10:51] seanh, exactly [10:51] Thanks for the info [10:51] Let me install the package now and reboot... [10:58] l3on: I can confirm your package appears to fix the issue [10:59] then please report this info into the bug :) [11:47] Something just thrashed my hard drive and cpu for almost an hour without stopping [11:47] Literally couldn't move the mouse! [11:47] I switched to another terminal and ran top, thunderbird seemed to be taking a lot of cpu, and a root process called acounts-daemon [11:48] But even after killing both, it went on for several more minutes [11:48] Seems to have stopped now, keeping top and iotop open in windows === ccar_away is now known as ccarella [12:26] atop is a good thing to have installed: it dumps system stats every 10 seconds to a log file and lets you browse it later [12:26] you can see which processes were created/exited during each 10s window and how much ram or disk i/o they used [12:27] unusable os for a long time while hard disk is thrashing _might_ mean you ran out of ram and were swapping heavily [12:33] Yeah I think something filled my memory [12:33] But what was using 8GB of memory? [12:34] I think it may have something to do with having restored many gigabytes of media files, emails etc after doing a fresh ubuntu gnome install [12:34] I wonder if something was going nuts trying to index things [12:39] hi - got a work colleague who is having issues after upgrading to 14.10 - really slow window resizing and other desktop effects [12:39] almost 100% its an intel driver issue [12:42] - if I delete the 'quiet,splash' line in grub it seems to sort it out ? [12:42] [drm:ilk_display_irq_handler] *ERROR* Pipe B FIFO underrun - [drm:cpt_set_fifo_underrun_reporting] *ERROR* uncleared pch fifo underrun on pch transcoder B - drm:cpt_serr_int_handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder B FIFO underrun [12:45] yossarianuk, can you verify that hardware gl is actually being used? glxinfo|grep renderer [12:46] i'll ask him too... most things are ok - just some extremely slow (like window resizing..) - btw its an upgrade from 14.04 -> -> 14.10 [12:47] my machine is similar and ok (although im also using kubuntu). [12:48] OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Desktop [12:52] I once had a sluggish desktop because of some silly permissions issue with /dev/dri, which made gnome fall back to software rendering without telling me [13:13] hi all === ccarella is now known as ccar_away === ccar_away is now known as ccarella === ccarella is now known as ccar_away [15:13] okay, seriously [15:13] with gnome3-staging enabled all the gtk apps crash as soon as I press the key [15:14] or try to open a menu [15:15] or push a button [15:34] how do I use apport-retrace? [15:35] I need to add ppa debug symbols to my sources.list or something? [15:35] (WHY ISN'T THIS AUTOMATED?) [15:47] mgedmin, are u using adwaita? [15:47] yes [15:47] intel? [15:47] yes [15:48] ... are you about to mention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1386133 ? [15:48] Ubuntu bug 1386133 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Please update and then backport to Utopic version 2.99.916" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:48] https://launchpad.net/~l3on/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages [15:48] there you can find an update of driver.. try it [15:48] DO NOT USE THE PPA DIRECTLY, just keep the deb package you need [15:49] does this have anything to do with apps segfaulting left and right? [15:49] I can live with broken shadows for now, the segfaults are priority #1 [15:58] * mgedmin is playing with apport-retrace -g /var/crash/_usr_bin_devhelp.1000.crash [16:14] does anybody want to teach me gdb? [16:56] is anyone having problems with 14.10 and the gnome3-staging ppa? [16:56] i'm getting segfaults in a lot of gtk stuff [16:56] usually after clicking on something in nautilus or the control center [16:56] even pressing ctrl in nautilus triggers it [17:03] uuwe, I'm not the only one!!!! [17:03] *everything* is segfaulting everywhere === nb__ is now known as Guest10851 === ccar_away is now known as ccarella [17:44] heh valgrind shows me three conditional jump/move depends on uninitialized value warnings in gtk_css_shadow_value_finish_drawing [17:45] in composite_traps from cairo-xlib-render-compositor.c, actually, but the gtk_css_shadown thing is in the stack trace [18:02] hello! [18:02] I have a question: for clamscan or clamfs to send me mail (on the system) do I have to install something or it just works by default [18:02] ? [18:06] cyberalex4life, I don't know for sure, but I think it may want a local MTA [18:07] hey, everyone -- with the gnome3-staging ppa all my windows have minimize and maximize buttons in the title bar, why? [18:08] mgedmin, ok them it's not my system :) [18:10] gdb shows it's crashing in glib2.0 called by gtk [18:14] mgedmin: In my beginnings with ubuntu I usually was installing lot's of packages from synaptic and this usually worked [18:18] I've got 3 monitors as setup and I wonder how I can control which program/game starts on specific monitor? [18:18] all programs start on random screens === ccarella is now known as ccar_away [19:36] welp middle click in gnome 3.14 no longer lowers windows?