[00:00] <fizbin> Why? I'm in the US.
[00:00] <popey> find a us mirror
[00:00] <popey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[00:00] <popey> there's loads
[00:01] <fizbin> Okay, this is odd. The md5 sums in http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release don't match the md5 sums in the Release from the install CD...
[00:01] <OerHeks> precise 12.04 12.04.1 or higher?
[00:01] <fizbin> 12.04.5
[00:01] <ratsarebig> fizbin: German are most up to date and fast
[00:02] <OerHeks> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS
[00:02] <l2ksolkov> ratsarebig, connecting to mirrors across the earth are not a good idea.
[00:03] <StFS> Hi. Can anybody tell me what the flying frack is going on with my computer... I have two cpus with 4 cores each (physical) but htop is only showing activity on two of them!? Also, top only shows 25% load when I run "stress -c 8"
[00:04] <Fruckiwacki> Hey, is it possible to rename a luks crypt device without doing luksFormat?
[00:04] <hardtail> Does anyone know why GRUB would ccrash while trying to install?
[00:05] <EriC^^> hardtail: what's the error msg?
[00:06] <fizbin> Huh. So, that mirror list claims that us.archive.ubuntu.com is a US mirror, and up to date. Deleting /var/lib/apt/lists/*Rel* and retrying worked.
[00:06] <fizbin> So I guess I just needed a newer Release file. Don't know why apt didn't go get it.
[00:10] <linelevel> Hi guys, it took me a while, but I was finally able to boot from a LiveCD and run `smartctl -a` on my hard drive. Here is the output. Can anyone help me to interpret it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8695707/
[00:10] <linelevel> daftykins: ^
[00:11] <daftykins> linelevel: sure reading now
[00:11] <linelevel> It says it passed, but running `sudo badblocks -sh` on my primary partition had previously reported errors.
[00:11] <linelevel> ^ -sv not -sh
[00:11] <daftykins> linelevel: yep reallocated sectors, that disk is toast
[00:12] <hardtail> EriC^^: I am trying to install ubuntu on my hybrid laptop/tablet and when I enter "install ubuntu" the screen goes black but still illuminated and nothing is there
[00:12] <daftykins> linelevel: it still has 27 pending sectors too, so it's getting worse. if you want any data off that thing you need to copy it off now
[00:12] <hardtail> daftykins is the pro there
[00:12] <linelevel> daftykins: I've been making nightly backups, but I only keep them for a week, so that's probably after this problem started...
[00:13] <daftykins> linelevel: well, if the data is good you'll be fine. you need to replace this disk though
[00:13] <linelevel> daftykins: I just ordered an SSD from Amazon to replace this drive, but I'll need to keep using it until it arrives. (it's my primary work computer.) Any thing you would recommend to minimize my chance of data loss until then?
[00:13] <EriC^^> hardtail: odd
[00:14] <EriC^^> hardtail: that's not a grub problem btw
[00:14] <EriC^^> hardtail: vga or something i guess
[00:14] <daftykins> linelevel: you would be better off creating a persistent liveUSB session and just accessing the HDD piecemeal, i wouldn't even attempt to boot from it as it'll work it too hard and likely kill it
[00:15] <EriC^^> hardtail: try to press alt+ctrl+f1
[00:15] <hyuukai> Could anyone help me, i am new at ubuntu and my firefox says i need to install flash player, i downloaded a tar.gz file now what?
[00:15] <daftykins> linelevel: you can keep running smartctl to see if the values increment, you'll want to watch ID numbers 5, 196 and 197
[00:16] <linelevel> daftykins: Sigh, well okay, thanks. One more question: Is there anything I can run on my backup (which is just a copy of my home directory using `rsync -a`) to see which, if any, of the data is corrupted?
[00:16] <EriC^^> hyuukai: install flash from the repositories, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer
[00:16] <EriC^^> hold on
[00:16] <EriC^^> !find flash
[00:16] <hardtail> eric^^: nothing happens when I press those buttons
[00:16] <daftykins> linelevel: no idea i'm afraid, you can only do comparisons to existing data which could already be corrupted depending on where these bad sectors are
[00:16] <EriC^^> hyuukai: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[00:17] <hyuukai> EriC^^, thanks bud
[00:17] <EriC^^> hyuukai: i think you have to have the multiverse repository enabled
[00:17] <EriC^^> no problem
[00:17] <hyuukai> how do i enable that?
[00:17] <EriC^^> hyuukai: open the dash and type software
[00:18] <hyuukai> yep
[00:18] <linelevel> daftykins: So there are 82 reallocated sectors (from #5)... where can I see how many that's out of so I know what % of the drive is corrupt?
[00:18] <EriC^^> hyuukai: click on software & updates and select the multiverse repository
[00:18] <EriC^^> hardtail: maybe try to boot the live usb with nomodeset
[00:19] <hyuukai> EriC^^, cant see an option for that
[00:19] <hyuukai> EriC^^, wait found it!
[00:19] <daftykins> linelevel: each sector is 512 bytes
[00:20] <linelevel> daftykins: Thanks.
[00:20] <linelevel> so unlikely to have hit much of my important data
[00:20] <tafa2> hi guys does anyone know how I can prevent the display from going to sleep from the command line?
[00:20] <daftykins> linelevel: the problem is that yours are cascading, so it's possible that your drive has one head scraping the platter surface or some other failure that'll spread
[00:20] <hardtail> eric^^ how do i do that?
[00:21] <daftykins> linelevel: if you are confident in your backups, i would zero the entire disk which would force the drive to discover all bad sectors and remap them
[00:21] <EriC^^> tafa2: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[00:21] <EriC^^> ( i think )
[00:22] <linelevel> daftykins: Undersood, but doesn't it mean that in my last backup from last night, there are at most 512B * 82 = 41 KB of bad data?
[00:22] <tafa2> EriC^^ cool! I think I should have specified that im using xubuntu?
[00:22] <compdoc> linelevel, the drive is beginning to fail. you should replace it
[00:23] <linelevel> compdoc: No question there. Replacement already ordered. That doesn't answer my last question, though.
[00:23] <EriC^^> hardtail: hold shift while the live usb boots, and press e over the default entry that boots, and add nomodeset to the line that starts with Linux vmlinuz .... and press ctrl+x to execute it
[00:23] <compdoc> whats the question?
[00:23] <EriC^^> tafa2: not sure if it matters
[00:23] <daftykins> linelevel: well you know how your system is locking down the disk after some points of usage? that's it reading or writing or modifying a file on disk that's in another bad spot, so at present it's maybe not discovered them all. you might get lucky and them be in blank space though
[00:23] <m4t> anyone got libvirt-bin to start via systemd?
[00:23] <EriC^^> tafa2: try gsettings list-recursively | grep idle
[00:23] <tafa2> will do thanks
[00:23]  * aceanimations ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A8-5545M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics    (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 7364 MB Total (4800 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 8510G ** Uptime: 1.97 Hours **
[00:23] <EriC^^> tafa2: see if you get that option
[00:23] <linelevel> daftykins: Okay, makes sense. So what utility would you use to zero the disk? wipe? srm?
[00:24] <aceanimations> those are my specs can i use ubuntu?
[00:24] <compdoc> zeroing the disk is a bad idea. its not going to help anything
[00:24] <EriC^^> tafa2: no problem
[00:24] <linelevel> compdoc: daftykins' idea was to zero it to force it to discover all currently bad sectors.
[00:25] <daftykins> linelevel: i'd dd zero fill the disk
[00:25] <hardtail> eric^^ do I add nomodeset after the -- ?
[00:25] <daftykins> compdoc: it'll detect any further bad sectors and cause the remaps to complete. nothing wrong with that.
[00:25] <EriC^^> hardtail: what's it say before -- ?
[00:26] <EriC^^> hardtail: i've never tried this before
[00:26]  * aceanimations ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A8-5545M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics    (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 7364 MB Total (4660 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 8510G ** Uptime: 2.01 Hours **
[00:26] <aceanimations> those are my specs can i use ubuntu?
[00:26] <linelevel> daftykins: And after doing that, if I run smartctl, it will tell me the total # of bad sectors that existed at the time of the `dd`, right?
[00:26] <linelevel> Just checking my understanding.
[00:26] <arthurfiggis> daftykins: yeah, i was under the impression it worked that way as well? at least with modern hard drives, if it detects bad sectors during a complete reformat it'll tend to remap them to locations where they (hopefully) won't corrupt anything
[00:26] <hardtail> eric^^ it says linux    /casper/vmlinuz.efi file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash --
[00:26] <daftykins> linelevel: #5 will increment to include the values from '197
[00:26] <daftykins> * #197
[00:26] <EriC^^> ok add nomodeset after splash
[00:27] <daftykins> arthurfiggis: yep
[00:27] <linelevel> daftykins: and possibly more that it hasn't yet discovered, right?
[00:27] <daftykins> linelevel: yep, keep this pastebin link bookmarked and compare before and after, etc
[00:28] <compdoc> files are damaged, and if its a system disk its just a matter of time before a critical system files are damaged and it wont boot anymore. what happens is, the bad sectors will continue to grow. damaging more and more files as it goes.
[00:28] <daftykins> linelevel: your disk isn't very large so it won't take too long "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=2M"
[00:28] <aceanimations> WILL SOMEONE ANSWER ME
[00:28] <daftykins> compdoc: yes i have said this, but the user wants to use it in the meantime. my advice is to find out how bad the damage is.
[00:28] <daftykins> aceanimations: not with that attitude no
[00:28] <linelevel> daftykins: So let's say I run `dd` on it every day for a month, testing it with smartctl after each re-zeroing, and after the first `dd`, the # of bad sectors never increases... would it then be relatively safe to start using that disk again?
[00:28] <aceanimations> daftykins, im sorry
[00:28] <aceanimations> can you please answer me?
[00:29] <daftykins> linelevel: i would never use a disk again after even a handful of bad sectors, i'd throw that thing in electronics recycling :)
[00:29] <daftykins> life is too short to use unreliable storage
[00:29] <compdoc> deleting the partition and restoring your files only makes sure you damage even more files. just leave it alone
[00:29] <compdoc> its a bad idea
[00:29] <daftykins> the user has backups, your comments are unfounded
[00:29] <hardtail> eric^^ when i try control + x it just adds x to the ediot
[00:30] <arthurfiggis> aceanimations: the specs that you're listing are certainly enough to run Ubuntu...the question mark would be the AMD Radeon GPU. This is just my experience, others might disagree, but...I've found that for 3d acceleration at least, there aren't really any very good drivers for AMD cards, not even the official ones. If you're only doing regular desktop stuff, browsing around on the internet,...
[00:30] <CRCinAU> so I'm still trying to get Ubuntu to install on Xen.... I posted this: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/problems-installing-ubuntu-on-xen-kernel-problems/1952
[00:30] <arthurfiggis> ...Radeon will probably be fine...if you want 3d acceleration you'll want to install the official drivers, and hopefully your card is better supported than the one I sold recently :(
[00:30] <EriC^^> hardtail: try f10
[00:30] <CRCinAU> any ideas at all on where I can chase this up?
[00:30] <aceanimations> pl arthurfiggis
[00:30] <hardtail> eric^^ screen is wiped again
[00:31] <hardtail> eric^^ i lied...it hanged for a bit now the ubuntu logo is there with the preloader...not sure if its gonna work
[00:32] <aceanimations> thx arthurfiggis
[00:32] <charlie_> hello everyone
[00:33] <arthurfiggis> aceanimations: no problem :) and like i said the radeon problem seemed to be a problem whenever i tried a radeon card...that was a long time ago, the official drivers are likely a lot better now so i'd not be discouraged and give it a try! there are open and closed source drivers for amd cards and depending on what you have it seems like one works better than the other...so i'd try both and...
[00:33] <arthurfiggis> ...whatever works (and doesn't crash), stick with that :)
[00:33] <charlie_> I am running lubuntu 12.04 lts and I have an IOGear bluetooth dongle, I cannot get it to come up under blueman
[00:33] <linelevel> daftykins: compdoc: Yeah, I'll never trust it again. I was just asking to check my understanding. If the # of bad sectors stop increasing despite repeated zero-ing, that indicates that the problem probably isn't spreading quickly at least, I would think.
[00:33] <charlie_> it is not recognizing it
[00:34] <CRCinAU> bueller?
[00:34] <Greylocks> aceanimations: reading this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/installation-guide/en.armhf/ch02.html
[00:34] <aceanimations> pl
[00:34] <aceanimations> ok
[00:34] <daftykins> linelevel: yeah, maybe zero it twice and see if the numbers jump
[00:34] <arthurfiggis> linelevel: mmm...depends on what the problem with the drive is really, though that's not a very good answer, sorry. :) i do know that if you start zeroing/formatting the disks and the number of bad sectors _increase_...then it's going to get worse, probably quickly
[00:35] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: sorry got distracted by pain in my mouth (hate this kind of pain) you make any progress on that?
[00:35] <aceanimations> guys how come in ubuntu my gpu might suffer?
[00:35] <arthurfiggis> linelevel: so i'd keep an eye on that...though as you already have a new drive coming and backups, sounds like you're going to be just fine :)
[00:35] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, not really.
[00:35] <wafflej0ck> aceanimations: suffer how also have you installed or checked for additional drivers
[00:35] <linelevel> arthurfiggis: Yeah, thanks.
[00:35] <aceanimations> im on windows atm
[00:35] <linelevel> As far as bad disks go, would you say I caught this problem pretty early?
[00:36] <daftykins> aceanimations: AMD graphics support is notorious for being rubbish in Linux
[00:36] <arthurfiggis> aceanimations: it might not at all, as i say it's just been my experience that ATI/AMD cards aren't very well supported in Linux in general...you might try the same drivers on different hardware and have no problems at all, the only way to know for sure would be to try it, switch drivers to see which ones work the best :)
[00:36] <linelevel> 82 bad sectors doesn't sound like much, but maybe it was alrady 10 a year ago, for all I know.
[00:36] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: okay so if you don't set any manual settings in the ethernet on the client and it does connect to the internet could you show those settings too for the IP status
[00:36] <aceanimations> ok arthurfiggis and daftykins thx for the help
[00:37] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, via ipconfig?
[00:37] <daftykins> np
[00:37] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: yup that works
[00:37] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: just want to see what does work vs what isn't working and see if we can incrementally change things to see what difference in the manual config breaks it exactly
[00:37] <charlie_> when I do lsusb for the bluetooth dongle I get this
[00:37] <charlie_> Bus 006 Device 005: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[00:37] <arthurfiggis> daftykins: that's pretty much what i wanted to say but i didn't want to come off as insulting to anyone with an AMD card :P but yeah, overall support for AMD GPU's in Linux is a shambles...if i can at all, i tend to buy computers with either an nvidia card or an intel gpu, since their open source drivers seem to actually work
[00:37] <charlie_> but it wont come up under blueman
[00:38] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok
[00:38] <acerspyro> > You have to download a total of 1,031 M. This download will take about 8 minutes with your connection.
[00:38] <acerspyro> LOL
[00:38] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, i have to go somewhere, ill be about maybe 10 min.
[00:38] <aceanimations> ok arthurfiggis
[00:38] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: k cool
[00:38] <acerspyro> daftykins: No problem so far here, using proprietary AMD drivers on a Radeon Mobility HD 5470
[00:39] <CRCinAU> ok - so - seeing as I can't find anyone who has done a net install of Ubuntu on Xen, where do I go to file bug reports?
[00:39] <charlie_> and help?
[00:39] <charlie_> someone
[00:39] <daftykins> acerspyro: anecdotal evidence doesn't cover an entire industry
[00:39] <acerspyro> daftykins: I know that
[00:39] <acerspyro> Just sayin'
[00:39] <daftykins> no point saying then if you know that my friend :)
[00:39] <acerspyro> I do hope that ATI will one day fix their drivers. It's prolly going to be faster here too
[00:40] <acerspyro> I never saw Windows on this comp
[00:40] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: really need to narrow down where the problem lies to know who to report the bug to and what info you should include
[00:40] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/problems-installing-ubuntu-on-xen-kernel-problems/1952
[00:41] <CRCinAU> I started with that - but as a non-ubuntu user, I couldn't find a traditional bug reporting area on the web site :\
[00:42] <spirit88> hello all
[00:42] <spirit88> have a quick question
[00:42] <hardtail> eric^^: seems to be hanging at the installation wizard.not sure if this is normal or now
[00:42] <daftykins> ask away
[00:43] <spirit88> had an update go bad, reinstalled on a different partition (smaller)
[00:43] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: pretty sure ubuntu itself uses launchpad for the bugs but would be curious if you can reproduce the problem with another distro to see if it's a problem with the Xen configuration or execution or the ubuntu image you're using or what?
[00:43] <aceanimations> spirit88, ok ok?
[00:43] <spirit88> is there a way i could CPIO the required files over to the old broken partion and have any hope of it working?
[00:43] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: same config (obviously using different vmlinuz / initrd images) works for RHEL6 & debian
[00:43] <br1ckd> I'm running Ubuntu Server 14.04 (w/ stock kernel) and trying to set up cgroups but the memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes file isn't in the cgroup VFS. I'm following the official kernel documentation at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt Anyone know why it's not working?
[00:44] <EriC^^> hardtail: like before you mean? if not which part of the installation wizard?
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: okay cool think you would want to find the right section in here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[00:44] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: sorry can't be of any help on the Xen part though as I have 0 experience with it
[00:45] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, paste.ubuntu.com/8696085
[00:46] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: thats cool - I've never used ubuntu before - and all I can say is that the site etc seems very....... marketting orientated - and a SOL if you have a problem ;)
[00:46] <EriC^^> spirit88: what went bad with the upgrade?
[00:46] <CRCinAU> awww man - I have to create an Ubuntu One account to report a bug? L\
[00:46] <spirit88> I think one of the gnu C libraries crapped out mid install
[00:47] <hardtail> eric^^ - the part where is says ubuntu has 6.5 gb of space. now it says. "the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions: /dev/mmcblk0" do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks before continuing? if you leave them mounted you will not be able to create, delete or resize partitions on these disks but you may be able to install to existing partitions there.
[00:47] <daftykins> Ubuntu One is dead, maybe a single sign on account
[00:47] <daftykins> idk
[00:47] <hardtail> so since i want to wipe everything and install ubuntu i should unmount it then?
[00:47] <EriC^^> hardtail: yeah, you can unmount that i guess
[00:47] <spirit88> ERIC^^:  It was frozen for what appeared to be days
[00:48] <hardtail> eric^^ ok thank you we will see what it does. very slow
[00:48] <EriC^^> spirit88: why don't you back everything up, and reinstall?
[00:50] <arthurfiggis> spirit88: i don't think i've ever had an upgrade from one linux distribution to another go completely smoothly...then again i can say the same thing for windows :) that being said, i would probably check to make sure there isn't some hardware problem first...you wouldn't want to waste a load of time trying to copy files from one installation to another only to find out it's a bad hard drive...
[00:50] <arthurfiggis> ...and that won't fix it, you know
[00:50] <spirit88> Eric^^:  that would be the right way to do it I suppose,  but it is the kids pc, I am not sure what they  have installed where
[00:50] <CRCinAU> wtf
[00:51] <CRCinAU> the Report a bug link goes to the wiki on bug reporting etiquette.....
[00:51] <spirit88> arthurfiggis:  don't think it is hardware, I am on the machine now, but on an alternate boot method
[00:51] <EriC^^> spirit88: you could get a list of the installed packages, and copy the /home directory, then reinstall the packages and copy the /home back
[00:51] <EriC^^> spirit88: ask them if they have any files somewhere else before i guess
[00:51] <spirit88> I am most concerned on gettingt heir games and stuff over, and saved games, and god know where all theat crap is
[00:52] <hardtail> eric^^ i am wiping the 32 gbs on the tablet and its going to attempt install. ... crosses fingers
[00:52] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok
[00:52] <spirit88> Eric^^ LOL they are 9 and 7... I can ask, the answer woudl be humorous i am sure :)
[00:52] <EriC^^> hehe
[00:53] <CRCinAU> ok - so if the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+filebug (Report a bug) link goes to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[00:53] <CRCinAU> how the smeg do you actually lodge a bug report?
[00:53] <spirit88> well I think I am going to copy over /usr to the old partition and see what happens
[00:53] <spirit88> we will see what happens
[00:54] <spirit88> ton of sym links make be an issue
[00:54] <EriC^^> maybe if you try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it might help?
[00:54] <spirit88> thanks for the cycles  folks !!  (Feels Eric Reinstall coming my way)
[00:55] <EriC^^> if you do decide to reinstall
[00:55] <EriC^^> use this command
[00:55] <EriC^^> comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[00:55] <spirit88> give me a manafest of where it dies?
[00:56] <EriC^^> it will list the installed packages
[00:56] <spirit88> sweet
[00:56] <spirit88> thanks
[00:56] <EriC^^> no problem
[00:58] <CRCinAU> ok - this whole launchpad thing is bullshit.
[00:59] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: hmm sorry if I misguided you here thought it was straightforward but really haven't used it aside from finding bugs, watch the language though the ops in here try to keep it family friendly
[00:59] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: oh - its the right place.... but every time I click the "Report a bug" link, even after registering, I get dumped at a wiki page.
[01:00] <CRCinAU> I ended up here -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[01:00] <CRCinAU> that takes me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs when I try to use the "Report a bug" link
[01:00] <CRCinAU> which is a static wiki page
[01:02] <TekNinja> hi
[01:02] <arthurfiggis> CRCinAU: no idea why that would be happening, i followed all the links that you listed and they all led me to the ubuntu one signin page
[01:02] <l2ksolkov> hi TekNinja
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: ah I see
[01:02] <CRCinAU> arthurfiggis: I signed in :
[01:02] <CRCinAU> :\
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: you need to use apport apparently
[01:02] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Complete_the_bug_report_filing_process
[01:03] <wafflej0ck> it is weird
[01:03] <potatoes_> I have a bash script that is basically catting out multiple files, so file1.txt file2.txt how do I echo out the current file it's catting out it's loop iteration?
[01:03] <CRCinAU> ffs
[01:03] <CRCinAU> that is 110% useless.
[01:04] <CRCinAU> potatoes_: for i in *.txt; do echo $i; cat $i >> output.txt; done
[01:05] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: ubuntu-bug doesn't work for ya? seems like that's the "general purpose" answer
[01:06] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: I don't even have ubuntu installed ;)
[01:06] <CRCinAU> that's the whole problem - can't get it to install ;)
[01:06] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: ah right *face palm*
[01:06] <CRCinAU> and its something to do with the xen images that are published here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[01:11] <CRCinAU> I can't believe in this day and age something as simple as filing a bug is so complex
[01:11] <CRCinAU> I haven't had any of these issues on github / redhat / debian and just about any other major project :\
[01:12] <daftykins> i would think there'd be other people in here kicking up a stink if what you say is true, CRCinAU
[01:12] <CRCinAU> I kinda thought I was a little unfair on Ubuntu thinking it was a bit of a braindead project - but I'm starting to reconsider that :\
[01:12] <daftykins> now feel free to continue to comment in #ubuntu-offtopic but this isn't a channel for venting ones spleen
[01:13] <CRCinAU> well - thats the interesting part - if I use the debian vmlinuz - with the ubuntu initrd, I get the installer screen
[01:13] <CRCinAU> but different kernel versions mean no network drivers etc etc etc
[01:13] <CRCinAU> if I use the ubuntu vmlinuz, nothing works :\
[01:15] <CRCinAU> its almost like the vmlinuz was built incorrectly for the install on Xen - even though its a xen netboot image
[01:15] <wafflej0ck> CRCinAU: have you tried any Xen focused chats might have more luck with other Xen users?
[01:15] <Pinkamen1_D> what desktop enviro supports having two seperate video cards and spanning the desktop across them
[01:15] <CRCinAU> its fine if you use the xl console (ie log into the Xen host), but we use VNC
[01:15] <CRCinAU> wafflej0ck: yeah - nobody admits to installing Ubuntu ;)
[01:17] <CRCinAU> to install only using the hvc0 console, you have to give everyone root access to the Xen Dom0 - which is not going to happen
[01:17] <CRCinAU> the VNC console that is an emulated video card etc doesn't need any of that.
[01:18] <BuffyBZ> I just rebooted my ubuntu 12.04 (I think) server with md raid5 boot drive, got got a grub2 error saying disk not found. I have downloaded the live cd, and am getting the bootinfo script. Is there a channel that specializes in help with raid or boot issues?
[01:18] <CRCinAU> BuffyBZ: since when you can boot off a md RAID5?
[01:19] <CRCinAU> I was pretty sure it was RAID1 only for /boot at the most (and really, the boot doesn't use the RAID1)
[01:20] <BuffyBZ> CRCinAU, Sorry, the root fs is raid 5. not sure where the boot was.
[01:21] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, did you get my last message? i think my internet might have cut out.
[01:21] <wafflej0ck> yeah saw it actually just didn't flip back to start looking at how to reconfigure it
[01:21] <CRCinAU> BuffyBZ: I'm going to guess you haven't made an /etc/mdadm.conf - therefore the initrd doesn't have a copy of the RAID layout to progress past the kernel boot
[01:23] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: basically deal is they need to end up on the same subnet so the subnet mask should be the same, but would need to look at how the connection sharing on linux determines the IP to use for the shared connection
[01:24] <hardtail> eric^^ it installed rebooting now
[01:24] <BuffyBZ> CRCinAU, The server has been running raid5 for quite a while, and rebooted a few times since going to raid5. In fact I rebooted yesterday with no issues.
[01:26] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: other thing that needs to happen is every device on the network needs to have a unique IP, conflicts will cause problems, beyond that part the DNS needs to be able to resolve for you to connect through a regular browser using domains, but if you can ping across the network then everything but the dns is good
[01:27] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: problem is we need to start with, where is it getting that 10.*.*.* address for the ethernet connection and how do we change it
[01:27] <hardtail> if ubuntu loading  bars are frozen should i just power off and on?
[01:28] <wafflej0ck> hardtail: yeah if you're stuck at the shutdown screen you can just power off and power on, you could also check if you can get to a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 you might want to drop the output of dmesg somewhere to see what's failing
[01:28] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, the 10.*.*.* seems to be the default for ICS
[01:29] <hardtail> wafflej0ck hmm, it is not responsive to ctrl alt f1
[01:33] <lkthomas> hey guys, is there have a way to disable apparmor logging ?
[01:33] <jac1d> Just trying to install 14.04 on an older mobo with NVidia GF9400 onboard graphics.  I've run afoul of the apparently common problem of "no screens found" when you try and start x
[01:33] <jac1d> I have read that I may need to sert a BUSID line in the xorg.conf file (why, I can't even imagine?!) but I can't find the file??  where do I set this, or any other ideas welse
[01:33] <jac1d> welcome
[01:34] <BuffyBZ> So in live cd I install mdadm, re-assembled the array and it looks fine. I did a modprobe dm-mod, then a vgchange -ay, and the root fs popped up in nautalis. So the fs and array look okay.
[01:34] <daftykins> !nomodeset | jac1d try this
[01:36] <Guest48999> just out of curiousness since Ubuntu Names versions are doing alphabetical thing when it hits Z would it start over back to A?
[01:36] <daftykins> who knows, hardly a showstopper of a situation though
[01:36] <hardtail> uh oh. after rebooting now the screen just flashes tints of black,..now what? haha
[01:38] <wafflej0ck> hardtail: what were you doing before the reboot, are you aware of and/or have used nomodeset boot parameter
[01:39] <farva> Hello, I have multiple java processes and I need to stop one of them, when I use HTOP I cannot kill the processes, how can I stop that one process without effecting the other java processes?
[01:40] <BuffyBZ> farva, did you user start the processes, or are they owned by another user?
[01:40] <farva> I started the process
[01:40] <hardtail> wafflej0ck i was installing ubuntu with nomodeset boot parameter yes. once it completed it said reboot
[01:40] <farva> I have full perms for the server
[01:41] <BuffyBZ> farva, When you say you cant kill them with htop, why not? Error?
[01:41] <farva> it gives me no output
[01:42] <BuffyBZ> farva, Tried a kill from the command line with the pid of the process?
[01:42] <farva> okay, so I would do: sudo kill [pid] ?
[01:43] <BuffyBZ> farva, Yes. If that doesnt work, try a sudo kill -9 [pid]
[01:44] <BuffyBZ> farva, The first sends a request asking the process to TERMinate. The second KILLs it.
[01:45] <farva> sudo kill -9 [pid] worked
[01:45] <farva> thank you Buffy <3
[01:45] <BuffyBZ> farva, no probs, your welcome.
[01:45] <farva> =]
[01:47] <BuffyBZ> So I have managed to mount my raid5 array and get my LV mounted in a live cd. I know which disk had grub installed. I can see /boot inside the LV. How do I reinstall grub2 to fix the issue when grub reports 'disk lvmid/[hash] not found' and drops to a grub rescue prompt?
[01:52] <hardtail> if using nomodeset to install ubuntu, then after reboot the screen flickers black what should you do?
[01:54] <bubbasaures> hardtail, repeat and rinse with a graphics driver.
[01:55] <hardtail> bubbasaures - what does that mean with a graphics driver?
[01:56] <bubbasaures> hardtail, Just sounds like you need a graphics driver, not all are autoloaded on a install.
[01:56] <hardtail> bubbasaures my apologies, i am not experienced with this. so how do i get one?
[01:57] <bubbasaures> hardtail, use the nomodeset boot, update and upgrade when in and check the additional drivers app.
[01:57] <wafflej0ck> hardtail: typically, you want to use "jockey" or "Additional Drivers" GUI to add or change the graphics drivers, nomodeset parameter should have it skip using any specific graphics drivers and use the generic drivers without acceleration
[01:57] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Ubuntu 14.04 ? , can you get to a terminal or console ? then try terminal command -> ubuntu-drivers autoinstall <- to install a proprietary driver.
[01:58] <hardtail> it wont accept any commands ctl alt f1 does not work
[01:58] <bubbasaures> !nomodeset | hardtail read the install boot
[02:00] <asdf-> i am running 14.04 but uname -r says my kernel is 2.6.32-042stab093.4
[02:00] <asdf-> i have installed 3.17 linux-headers and linux-image via dpkg
[02:00] <daftykins> that seems somewhat unlikely
[02:01] <BuffyNZ> Okay, I followed the guide to purge and reinstall grub2, and I still have the same issue. On boot I get error: disk 'lvmid/[hash]' not found, entering rescue mode.
[02:01] <asdf-> but even when i reboot it shows 2.6.32 as the kernel
[02:01] <daftykins> asdf-: pastebin "ls -al /boot"
[02:02] <asdf-> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/9D4JbXgz
[02:03] <daftykins> asdf-: "uname -a" ?
[02:03] <asdf-> daftykins, Linux w001 2.6.32-042stab093.4 #1 SMP Mon Aug 11 18:47:39 MSK 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:04] <daftykins> asdf-: and "cat /etc/issue" ?
[02:04] <asdf-> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[02:05] <hardtail> !nomodeset
[02:06] <asdf-> hardtail, is that for me?
[02:06] <hardtail> asdf- sorry no I have to read it for my problem
[02:06] <asdf-> daftykins, odd right?
[02:07] <daftykins> asdf-: i am very confused, it's almost like you're getting results from a system you're SSH'd to rather than your host
[02:07] <daftykins> and yet they're mixed in
[02:07] <neldogz> Hi all, it seems that swap is problematic 14.04 LTS when using an encrypted home directory. My swap partition is not mounting upon bootup
[02:07] <neldogz> anyone run into this problem?
[02:08] <asdf-> daftykins, all of the output you requested is a machine i am ssh'd into
[02:08] <asdf-> via a ssh client on windows
[02:08] <ajeet> hi all
[02:09] <arthurfiggis> neldogz: i have run into the exact same problem...whatever it is, it goes away if you -don't- use encrypted home directories. When i reinstalled and used full disk encryption instead, left the encrypted home directory unchecked, the swap file was mounted without issues
[02:10] <Bashing-om> daftykins: asdf- Odd agreed, booting version 14.04, but has the later 3.15 & 3.17 kernels. Curious what the synlinks are from -> ls -al / <- .
[02:10] <neldogz> arthurfiggis, thank you for confirming. I will do just that actually.
[02:10] <Bashing-om> symbolic links.
[02:11] <hardtail> bubbasaures - i read the instructions. i cant get to grub or open the terminal at all. non of the keyboard commands prompt anything
[02:11] <arthurfiggis> neldogz: no problem :) i wish i knew more about what was actually causing it, hopefully it's fixed in 14.10...but that seemed to solve it for me at least, so hopefully it'll work for you as well
[02:11] <Bashing-om> hardtail: EFI system ?
[02:11] <neldogz> arthurfiggis, i tried recreating it but same problem. I like the disk encryption idea better :)
[02:11] <bubbasaures> hardtail, Tapping the shift key at powering on gives no grub?
[02:11] <hardtail> bashing-om yes sir
[02:12] <hardtail> bubbasaures that is correct
[02:12] <bubbasaures> ah efi
[02:12] <vastkahuna> how do i check ubuntu for broken packages?
[02:12] <Bashing-om> hardtail: EFI then use the escape key to get grub's attention.
[02:12] <hardtail> um now i press the power button to shut off again and it says please select boot device - ubuntu or enter setup
[02:13] <asdf-> Bashing-om, ls -al / shows 3.17 as new and 3.15 as old
[02:14] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Do not know, but that advisory is generally considered a "bios" advisory .. sure you have an EFI system ?
[02:14] <asdf-> Bashing-om, i'm not sure how the uname -r is referencing the old kernel 2.6
[02:15] <hardtail> bashing-om would this help from the bios "launch efi shell from filesystem device"?
[02:15] <vastkahuna> how do i check ubuntu for broken packages?
[02:15] <Bashing-om> asdf-: Same here, puzzl'n thing .. daftykins: what would result if we " initramfs " this ?? .. As I do not know else ??
[02:16] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Well, that is EFI ! ..What results reboot and as soon as the boot screen clears repeated hit the escape key to get grub's attention ?
[02:17] <linman32> hi is it possible to tab through all windows w/ alt+tab? it doesn't list all of them
[02:17] <hardtail> bashing-om esc only prompts bios
[02:19] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Are you sure that ubuntu is installed ? from liveDVD terminal command -> sudo parted -l | pastebinit <- and we see what is, what .
[02:19] <hardtail> bashing-om i installed ubuntu from the usb. once it completed it told me to reboot then this happened. ill have to try to get "try ubuntu" with the usb
[02:20] <asdf-> Bashing-om, i'll give "initramfs" a shot... do i just type it as a command?
[02:20] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i'm totally lost on that one :) you're welcome to take over!
[02:21] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Booting with EFI is not an area of great knowledge with me .. If you installed ubuntu as MBR and the system is UEFI, there will be grub problems.
[02:21] <asdf->  cat /proc/version
[02:21] <asdf-> Linux version 2.6.32-042stab093.4 (root@kbuild-rh6-x64) (gcc version 4.4.6 20120305 (Red Hat 4.4.6-4) (GCC) ) #1 SMP Mon Aug 11 18:47:39 MSK 2014
[02:22] <asdf-> know what... this is a vps... the host runs red hat
[02:23] <hardtail> bashing-om i selected try ubuntu but the screen is just black again haha...
[02:23] <Bashing-om> daftykins: asdf- I am same same .. beyond my knowlege, depends on what one is willing to risk. but we could force the issue and see what does break and/or fix ???
[02:24] <daftykins> asdf-: aaaah so it's not just a desktop
[02:24] <daftykins> i had a feeling it was a little non-standard
[02:24] <daftykins> perhaps the kernel is the hypervisor's kernel
[02:24] <asdf-> daftykins, it is ubuntu server and i am ssh'd into it
[02:25] <Bashing-om> hardtail: What we have to do, is get to the grub boot options screen, F6 Key for the preset boot options, and choose the option nomodeset. See if that works to get to the desktop.
[02:26] <after_r> Hello...
[02:26] <Greylocks> linman32: try CTRL+ALT+TAB
[02:27] <after_r> is there a way to make the fans on my laptop to stop completely? I have macbook pro 8,3 and in OSX, when the system is not being used much, the fans are stopped so the laptop makes 0 noise... but in ubuntu they are always slightly running
[02:27] <hardtail> bashing-om right now. i can get to grub ver 2.02beta by loading the USB with menu options 1. try ubuntu without installing, install, oem install, check disc for defects - will this suffice?
[02:27] <linman32> Greylocks: it is tabbing through, but i meant different question. there are two chromes open. when i tab i would like to see both, if that makes sense
[02:28] <Bashing-om> hardtail: At the bottom of that screen is there F options ??
[02:29] <hardtail> bashing-om only e to edit and c f or command-line
[02:30] <Greylocks> linman32: right click on the launcher is the only way I know to do that. Perhaps someone else knows another way.
[02:31] <daftykins> after_r: it'll be down to a lack of official support so it would be unwise even if you could
[02:31] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Nope, do not think that is the screen we want .. Lemme reboot into a liveDVD and make sure of what I expect to see.
[02:31] <BuffyNZ> At the grub rescue prompt an ls shows (md/0), but an ls (md/0)/boot says disk md/0 not found.
[02:32] <hardtail> bashing-om alright thank you
[02:32] <Bashing-om> hardtail: Hold tight, and I will log out and be back soonest.
[02:32] <clu3> hi all i have SSH'ed into a remote machine, if i want to open a GUI program, say "gedit" on my computer, what do I have to do? Thanks I remember doing this but a very long time ago, some thing like export DISPLAY, any help pls
[02:33] <wafflej0ck> linman32: you might want to look for an alternate tab program think unity-tweak-tool lets u enable some alternate alt+tab displays
[02:33] <SchrodingersScat> clu3: yeah, you are looking for xforwarding, iirc
[02:33] <BuffyNZ> clu3, export your display back throught the X tunnel created by ssh.
[02:33] <linman32> Greylocks: ok that does work, thanks. maybe someone else knows..
[02:33] <AmnesiaHaze> why wouldnt you just use somthing like nanno thru ssh
[02:33] <linman32> wafflej0ck: thanks i will check it out
[02:33] <clu3> AmnesiaHaze, gedit is just an example
[02:34] <clu3> BuffyNZ, SchrodingersScat thanks
[02:34] <vastkahuna> How do I check ubuntu for broken packages?
[02:35] <hardtail> bashing-om no problem, thank you
[02:35] <BuffyNZ> I suspect I might be hitting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1318568. Can I downgrade my grub to get it working on my system?
[02:35] <xangua> vastkahuna: would be better if youstated your actual problem
[02:36] <after_r> daftykins: what do you mean `it will be down to a lack of official support` ?
[02:36] <lkthomas> guys, what's diff between profile.d and environemt under /etc ?
[02:37] <vastkahuna> I just updated ubuntu and it said some things were not installed, and my cd player won't  play music cd
[02:37] <daftykins> after_r: well macs aren't meant to run Ubuntu
[02:37] <daftykins> or Linux in general
[02:37] <wafflej0ck> !mac
[02:37] <asdf-> daftykins, upon further investigation... the bug is real... i can reboot all of the nodes running
[02:38] <wafflej0ck> I've seen it done but never tried
[02:38] <asdf-> daftykins, thank you for helping me
[02:38] <daftykins> asdf-: no worries, heh how did you find out you could reboot all the others?
[02:39] <asdf-> daftykins, google... found others with the same problem and then found someone who found a way to exploit and posted a CVE link
[02:40] <BuffyNZ> I rebooted my Ubuntu 14.04.1 server with a raid5 LV root drive, and got a grub2 error saying disk '/lvmid/[hash]' not found. It then dropped me to a grub2 rescue prompt. I have downloaded the live cd, installed mdadm, remounted the root partition and tried purging and reinstalling grub. No change in behaviour. The system has been running an raid5 LV root for a long time. Can anyone help, I am reall
[02:40] <BuffyNZ> y stuck and can't get my server back up.
[02:41] <linman32> wafflej0ck: how is it possible to add <Alt>Tab to shortcut? it is not letting me
[02:41] <daftykins> asdf-: wow! can you tell me your provider?
[02:42] <wafflej0ck> linman32: hmm not sure what you mean?
[02:42] <BuffyNZ> At this stage I am considering re-installing from a fresh drive, remounting the LV and restoring the data.
[02:42] <wafflej0ck> linman32: trying to use the keyboard shortcuts screen?
[02:43] <linman32> wafflej0ck: it lets me change a shortcut key to letters or numbers. but it is not letting me use  <Alt>Tab
[02:43] <linman32> wafflej0ck: yeah, but in unity tweak tool. but looks similar
[02:43] <wafflej0ck> linman32: yeah it might be somehow "system reserved" I know remapping just he winkey is a problem too
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> linman32: you can typically work around these issues with xbindkeys or xmodmap but typically it's a little chunk of debugging and fiddling around to get it to map certain keys
[02:45] <wafflej0ck> linman32: would probably just try winkey tab or something though first to see if it does what you want before messing with anything else
[02:45] <linman32> wafflej0ck: thanks
[02:47] <Bashing-om> hardtail: OK, Hers the deal, boot the liveUSB, as soon as the purple splash screen appears depress the rught shift key -> language screen, escape ket -> boot options screen.
[02:48] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: sorry I abandoned your issue there just not sure what exactly to tell you on setting that up.... I've definitely done this the opposite way where I'm using windows as the host for  ICS and some SIP phone as a client but only did it once and not really recently
[02:48] <wafflej0ck> linman32: np
[02:48] <BuffyNZ> Is there anywhere I can buy paid support for my grub booting issue?
[02:48] <xangua> BuffyNZ: Canonical
[02:49] <BuffyNZ> xangua: two days to open a account?
[02:49] <hardtail> bashing-om Ok but I can't seem to acquire the purple splash screen. when I click install or try ubuntu the screen just changes black
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: yeah sorry no RAID experience so really no way I could possibly help, Canonical is probably a good starting point for where to find paid support
[02:50] <l2ksolkov> wafflej0ck, i'll probably just buy another wireless adapter for the windows pc, the one i currently have has a range of about 3 feet.
[02:51] <wafflej0ck> l2ksolkov: yeah good call can get a USB adapter for pretty cheap too $20 should be good enough
[02:57] <BuffyNZ> wafflej0ck: Yeah, my issue if really specific, thanks for reading though, appreciate it
[03:02] <BuffyNZ> Okay, change of tack. I have access to my old root fs. I am rebuilding the server. Is there an easy way to find out which packages were installed from the old root fs and reinstall them on the new one?
[03:03] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: you can check out your /var/log/dpkg.log that'll show anything installed with dpgk or apt-get, probably scripts to get just the package list too
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: looks like this post walks through a few steps to reinstall from dpkg.log http://askubuntu.com/questions/50622/how-to-reinstall-many-removed-packages-at-once
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> oh wait that's looking for removed ones thoguh I think... might need to change that a bit
[03:07] <wafflej0ck> ah also might have some older logs since that one "rolls over" it looks like
[03:07] <BuffyNZ> wafflej0ck, Yeah, this a four or five year old server, I think. :) Going back through the logs may be hard.
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> BuffyNZ: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages this is using apt-get but think you'd need to chroot probably?
[03:08] <BuffyNZ> wafflej0ck: I am going to try chrooting to the old root fs and ... Great minds think alike. :)
[03:09] <BuffyNZ> Heh, you know what, making the call to wipe the server and ditch dmraid is kind of freeing. raid != backup.
[03:11] <linuxmint> Hello, is anyone able to help with ssh remote access. It was working last week, but the same command doesn't work this week?
[03:11] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint: what command, any errors?
[03:11] <wafflej0ck> linuxmint: what feedback are you getting?
[03:12] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: I can't ssh from outside public WAN into LAN machine behind pfSense. pfSense has the port forwarded, ssh works inside the LAN, I tried the commands ssh user@publicWANIP:portNumber, ssh user@publicWANIP -p portNumber and ssh -p portNumber@publicWANIP. Error: ssh: Could not resolve hostname publicWANIP: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
[03:13] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint: And you and using an IP, not a hostname/fqdn?
[03:14] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: yes, using an IP like 60.225.320.2.
[03:14] <oaulakh> how to fix brightness value in ubuntu
[03:14] <oaulakh> means when i decrease my brightness, it goes again full brighten when i restart my system
[03:15] <oaulakh> how to fix brightness value in ubuntu, means when i decrease my brightness, it goes again full brighten when i restart my system
[03:15] <oaulakh> its like real pain in ass
[03:15] <oaulakh> please help
[03:16] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint:It does look like a forwarding issue.. Are you sure the forwarding rule is correct?
[03:17] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: port forwarded to 8063 and worked last week?
[03:18] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: not sure how to check apart from https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[03:18] <BuffyNZ> oaulakh: Tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/151651/brightness-is-reset-to-maximum-on-every-restart
[03:18] <nomic> oaulakh -- I just turn it down when I log in
[03:20] <oaulakh> its not a solution i think, means change brightness after every login
[03:22] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint:Not sure what to suggest sorry. Could be a number of things, a new firewall in place, on either the server, your client, or the router, or a rule that changed after a reboot... ssh server changed ports, ssh server not running..
[03:22] <oaulakh> its really a pain
[03:23] <ubuntuaddicted> my friend has a weird situation.  if he runs steam from a terminal he can connect to my borderlands 2 game and has audio from the game BUT if he starts steam from the menu entry he can't connect and he has no sound. he's verified the command he's running in the terminal is the same command in the menu entry. why is this? something about ENV variables? how does he track down this issue
[03:24] <linuxmint> BuffyNZ: that's ok. The trick I find is trying to troubleshoot to find the problem. Port scanner is a bit unreliable as it shows most ports as Stealth, but I know they are open and work. I might have to check at the packet leve.
[03:25] <BuffyNZ> linuxmint:It is interesting you getting nodename nor servname provided, or not known rather than connection refused..
[03:26] <lancemurdock> test
[03:26] <lancemurdock> hello?
[03:27] <wafflej0ck> lancemurdock: it worked
[03:27] <BuffyNZ> ubuntuaddicted:You could try setting up a menu entry that echos env to a file, then in a command prompt echo env to another file, then compare the two with meld.
[03:27] <lancemurdock> haha nice thanks
[03:27] <wafflej0ck> lancemurdock: you have an ubuntu support question? if not #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chit chat
[03:28] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, how would he setup an echo env to a file?
[03:29] <BuffyNZ> ubuntuaddicted:Are you asking how to create a menu entry, how to echo env to a file, or both?
[03:29] <wafflej0ck> printenv >> ~/somefile.txt
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> dunno about the Steam entries though haven't fiddled with those at all
[03:30] <wafflej0ck> oh also just needed > not >> (append)
[03:30] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, i think he knows how to create a menu entry, not sure what the command would be to echo env to a file though
[03:31] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: printenv like I wrote there should work
[03:31] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, i missed that cause my name wasn't tagged. thank you
[03:32] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: ah yup sorry left out the name originally
[03:32] <Guest90124> hello everybody,this is my first time to login in xchat
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> hello Guest90124 if you have ubuntu questions ask away always join up the #ubuntu-offtopic for more general conversation
[03:33] <ubuntuaddicted> Guest90124, hello, welcome
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> -always/otherwise
[03:34] <Guest90124> ok thanks
[03:39] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, ok, i created a menu entry using menu editor in xubuntu 14.04 and for the command i typed in "printenv >> ~/somefile.txt"  without the quotes but when I click the menu entry no file gets created in my home folder?
[03:39] <rr1991> Simple question for Ubuntu Desktop 14.04: I want to change my user password to something that is both 'too short' and 'not good enough'. I know , not supersafe, but I want that. Can it be done? I remember it was possible for early versions of ubuntu. Thank you
[03:41] <ubuntuaddicted> rr1991, you can set whatever password for your user you want to the best of my knowledge
[03:42] <BuffyNZ> rr1991: 'sudo passwd <login>' will override any password complexity requirements
[03:42] <BuffyNZ> rr1991:Run it from terminal
[03:43] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: not sure about the menuentry file you're referring to have a link by chance? if you just run that command in a terminal you should see the resulting file
[03:43] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: if not try just, printenv, it should output to the terminal
[03:44] <nate> Hello all
[03:44] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, i can get printenv to work just fine within a terminal but what my goal is to find out what env variables are being used when I launch a command from a menu entry
[03:45] <rr1991> BuffyNZ: Thank you, that worked. It is the ubuntu software that wants us to stay safe ;) Cheers from Welly
[03:45] <dhruv_> hello
[03:45] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: also to note the >> actually means append the output of the first program into the file whereas just > means overwrite whatever is in the file with the output from the program
[03:45] <dhruv_> How do i make my camera work?
[03:45] <BuffyNZ> rr1991: Glad it helped, gidday from ChCh. :)
[03:46] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: you talking just .desktop files for the menu entries?
[03:47] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, no, i just create a menu entry using alacarte
[03:48] <ubuntuaddicted> wafflej0ck, not sure if i should enable "Launch in Terminal" or not?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a package that can enable/disable init.d systems services(like cups)
[03:49] <BuffyNZ> ubuntuaddicted:Can you tell how the steam menu option is configured?
[03:49] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: don't think that should matter, not sure if you can use a ; between commands in that exec box or not
[03:50] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, can you recommend to me how to setup a menu entry that echos env to a file please?
[03:51] <ubuntuaddicted> BuffyNZ, i believe the command is /usr/games/steam %U
[03:53] <pieter_> hi
[03:54] <okimoyo> This should be a simple question but it's been vexing me. When I log into my ubuntu system (14.04) there is a nice system summary display. It's not coming from .bashrc, does anyone know which script is generating that
[03:55] <Guest27393> Hi guys, I'm having the same issue as the individuals in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2161232 . I believe the common thread is the CPU model. I am wondering if anyone knows a workaround besides using a DVD? I would use a DVD rom drive but the only one I have is an IDE and this new mobo I got doesn't have an IDE slot
[03:56] <somsip> okimoyo: /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile are also run on login. Worth checking in those perhaps?
[03:56] <Guest27393> I would have made another thread about it but that thread got closed before there seemed to be a resolution so I didn't want to be disrespectful
[03:59] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: yeah not sure really just tried fiddling with a few ways of doing it in alacarte but nothing working
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Guest27393: There is nothing dis-respectful about saying you have a problem, and referencing that original thread. Sorry I do not have a solution to offer.
[04:02] <wafflej0ck> ubuntuaddicted: if you can figure out how to run both commands in there though you could also check, whoami to see what user the process is running as since that could make a difference too
[04:04] <ajeffri> Hello!
[04:07] <Guest27393> Is there a similiar distrobution I can try?
[04:07] <ajeffri> I just want to say (rather, the wine just wants to say) that I use Ubuntu or Debian on all of my work linux servers. I run Debian and Mint at home. Love the whole Debian/Ubuntu eco-system
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> i found rcconf to enable/disable services, cups shows disabled but still shows in pstree, how is that possible?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !info rcconf
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> service --status-all also shows cups still running and i manually removed it from update-rc_d last time?
[04:17] <ajeffri> I need to go, but I will check in soon...
[04:19] <wafflej0ck> Guest27393: plenty of distros out there, you might want to check out RedHat or SuSe they are pretty polished as well and not part of the main Debian line of Linux that Ubuntu and some of it's related distros come from, but believe RedHat is using Gnome 3 now and SuSe is using KDE so on the surface you can check out some other Linux distros that use the same desktop environments you could use in Ubuntu but the underlying package
[04:19] <wafflej0ck> managers and other system components would be different
[04:20] <nusr> sorry i need to ask this here. the ipython people are asleep. or maybe the question is too basic.. i have defined a function in ipython. what keys do i press to exit the function?
[04:22] <Guest27393> wafflej0ck, is there a way of upgrading debian to ubuntu?
[04:23] <xangua> Guest27393: no, backup, install linux distro of your choice
[04:24] <Guest27393> xangua, wish I could install Ubuntu, but this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216123 applies to me
[04:24] <wafflej0ck> Guest27393: no they have different repositories of packages, in a large part that's what makes up a "distro" so it's typically not trivial to just switch ditros since you would have a bunch of packages from different repositories that may have incompatibilities (also the package managers themselves are different in many cases though I'm not sure between Ubuntu and Debian how far all the tools have diverged)
[04:26] <Guest27393> wafflej0ck, understood
[04:38] <Guest27393> I wish this worked :(
[04:39] <Guest27393> uhh wrong link
[04:39] <edition> third day: still cannot start Rigs of Rods.
[04:40] <Loshki> Guest27393: I run ubuntu on the hardware and debian inside virtualbox...
[04:46] <Guest27393> Loshki, I just wanna install ubuntu on my new box. But USB sticks load for my CPU model
[04:46] <Guest27393> woe is me
[04:46] <Guest27393> Hopefully they fix it with a new update
[04:48] <edition> is there an updated page, on installing RoR for ubuntu?
[04:59] <edition> other games such as Xonotic, assaultcube, etc work fine.
[04:59] <edition> but RoR, and Flightgear either fail to start, or look bad.
[05:16] <croz> In this CL crash course the writer gives the reader a command to input: "find . -name "*.txt" -print". What's the point of the -print at the end if it prints it without that addition at the end?
[05:31] <ki7mt> croz, look at man find ; under actions, see: -print True; print the full file name on the standard output, followed by a  newline.
[05:37] <jesse_> Hello.  I'm unable to get DRM flash movies to play in Ubuntu with Google Play within Chrome.  I have hal and flashplugin-installer installed.  Google Play works fine under firefox.  I'm using 14.10.  ANy suggestions?
[05:39] <Viking667> 'llo all. I'm having weird results from glxgears and fgl_glxgears under Trusty with a Sapphire R9-270X (4Gb video memory). Both tell me the average frame rate is about 60FPS and about 300-ish frames.
[05:39] <Viking667> I used to get over 21,000 frames, so what on earth's changed?
[05:40] <cloudbud> hey how to create user in ubuntu and add sudo previleges to that user
[05:40] <cloudbud> i am following this tutorial : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-and-delete-users-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps
[05:41] <saransh__> hi how to fix update for ubuntu 13.10
[05:41] <saransh__> ?
[05:41] <saransh__> error that i get on updating. http://s28.postimg.org/oqpdhbmql/ubuntu_error.png
[05:41] <xangua> saransh__: upgrade to a supported release
[05:41] <xangua> !eol
[05:41] <saransh__> actually i can't update that's why
[05:41] <saransh__> sorry upgrade
[05:42] <cloudbud> i am getting error  adduser admin adduser: The group `admin' already exists.
[05:44] <Flannel> cloudbud: What are you trying to accomplish?
[05:45] <cloudbud> Flannel : trying to create a sudo user in ubuntu
[05:45] <Flannel> cloudbud: What do you want said user's username to be?
[05:46] <cloudbud> admin
[05:46] <cloudbud> Flannel : admin
[05:47] <Flannel> cloudbud: You /can/ do that, but it won't be ideal (and it'll take extra steps).  There's already a group called "admin", and users all get their own group.  Which is what is causing that error (it can't create the 'admin' group, because it already exists)
[05:47] <cloudbud> Flannel : what should i do now
[05:47] <Flannel> cloudbud: Pick a different username, would be the easiest and least confusing.
[05:51] <saransh__> if i upgrade ubuntu without any backup, will i loose files
[05:51] <saransh__> ?
[05:52] <xangua> backups are always good idea, if your information is important to you
[05:52] <saransh__> xangua: that's why, actually i'm working on a project, which i will need to set up again, if i upgrade
[05:53] <saransh__> xangua: and i need to install some module from core which i can't install
[06:01] <OERIAS>                
[06:01] <saransh__> xangua: can i use any  repo?
[06:01] <abram_> ok, I have an absurd problem. I hibernating my machine, and not it crashes on booting, but I can boot in console mode using a recovery option from grub...
[06:01] <abram_> how do I wipe out the hibernate state?
[06:01] <OERIAS> any chance of upgrade ubuntu 6.06 to 14.04?
[06:02] <Flannel> OERIAS: through 8.04, 10.04, and 12.04
[06:02] <abram_> OERIAS: holy cow, you're runing 6.06? ;-)
[06:02] <abram_> OERIAS: I would recommend simply starting from a fresh 14.04. Otherwise you're in for a long tedious process
[06:02] <abram_> that will likely break things
[06:02] <abram_> one single dist-upgrade is bad enough
[06:02] <OERIAS> abram_, Flannel I can't restart from scratch
[06:03] <abram_> OERIAS: sure you can. Just install a fresh system and copy your files
[06:03] <abram_> all the state on your existing system can be moved to a new one
[06:03] <OERIAS> no, i was specifically not to
[06:03] <Bashing-om> OERIAS: Verry slim to none at all .. Way too much has changed in the Opersying system since then, And the time & bandwidth is tremendous !
[06:03] <OERIAS> Bashing-om, via full dvd?
[06:04] <abram_> OERIAS: not being able to simply start with a fresh install is an unreasonable requirement in your situation
[06:04] <OERIAS> abram_, I know, but the requirements are set
[06:04] <Flannel> OERIAS: You can go 6.06 to 8.04 to 10.04 to 12.04 to 14.04.  This was already stated.  It's not going to be fun or elegant, but it'll work.
[06:04] <abram_> anyway, there's got to be a way to wipe the hibernation state... I couldn't find anything with googling
[06:04] <OERIAS> Flannel, via Full dvd, right?
[06:04] <abram_> Usually when I do a dist-upgrade, something gets funky, and I waste a lot of time fixing it
[06:05] <Flannel> OERIAS: No.
[06:05] <OERIAS> how Flannel ?
[06:05] <abram_> sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:05] <Bashing-om> !eol | OERIAS
[06:05] <Flannel> OERIAS: Online repositories, since you need to be fully-updated on X (which isn't the DVDs) to go to X+4 without major headaches.
[06:06] <OERIAS> Flannel, i thought the repos were killed ages ago
[06:07] <Flannel> OERIAS: No, see the link ubottu just gave you.
[06:09] <saransh__> if i remove raring from sources.list, that would work ?
[06:10] <pantato> Ok, I'm sorry if it this is going to annoy anyone, I asked this question earlier and didn't get much of a response, but there's more activity in the room now so I figure I'll ask one more time: Does anyone know a solution to this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2161232  ?
[06:11] <abram_> where is the hibernate state file stored? There is a massive amount of config in /etc/hibernate/* and I can't find it
[06:15] <abram_> there's "UseSysfsPowerState disk", but I don't know what that's refering to.
[06:16] <abram_> What's the default resume device, and where does it point to?
[06:16] <abram_> I guess I could just dd /dev/zero onto the resume device if I knew what it was
[06:16] <abram_> where's the flag that says that a resume image exists?
[06:17] <abram_> Maybe I could just `apt-get remove hibernate pm-utils`?
[06:20] <justlooks> hi, i want to read linux kernel code but after i install kernel use " apt-get install linux-source-3.2.0" ,i can not see any code file in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-68-generic/fs/xfs  why?
[06:20] <quuxman> those are headers
[06:21] <quuxman> you want /usr/src/linux-source
[06:21] <quuxman> /usr/src/linux-source-3.5.0/... or whatever
[06:22] <quuxman> do you understand the C language?
[06:22] <quuxman> that would be a good starting point
[06:23] <quuxman> ok, this channel is completely dead
[06:23] <quuxman> well, almost
[06:23] <justlooks> quuxman: yes i understand a litter ,but question is i can not find the code location, i see /usr/src/linux-source-3.2.0/debian/ no code
[06:24] <jack> it's early morning quuxman
[06:24] <quuxman> justlooks: interesting, you're right, looks like there aren't any C files in that package
[06:24] <quuxman> you could always just git clone a repository
[06:24] <quuxman> or maybe you want `apt-get source`
[06:24] <jack> freaking early to be precise
[06:25] <quuxman> 11:30pm here
[06:25] <wafflej0ck> jack: yeah 1:25am here :)
[06:25] <wafflej0ck> actually I should get to sleep
[06:25] <justlooks> 14:24 here
[06:25] <jack> 7:25am here
[06:26] <jack> still pre-coffee
[06:26] <ki7mt> mkdir ~temp-kernel ; cd ~temp-kernel ; apt-get source linux-image-3.13.0-37-generic  or whatever version your after
[06:27] <quuxman> http://askubuntu.com/questions/159833/how-do-i-get-the-kernel-source-code
[06:27] <darkelfjuggalo> The password was taken off of a desktop with ubuntu 14.04...root password was not adjusted but the root password no longer works... how do i go into console or terminal to change the root password manually?
[06:27] <quuxman> darkelfjuggalo: can you get to the grub menu?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> darkelfjuggalo: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword .
[06:28] <darkelfjuggalo> how do i reach the grub menu?
[06:28] <quuxman> generally you can see this if you hit <esc> or <ctrl> or something while booting
[06:28] <quuxman> on some systems you see it every time you boot, to select between Ubuntu or Windows, for exampyle
[06:29] <darkelfjuggalo> i am trying to reset this in terminal or console so i can use sudo
[06:29] <quuxman> anyway, you select your normal boot line, hit 'e' and then add 'init=/bin/bash' to the end of the kernel line, then when it boots you're presented with a root shell prompt, and you can run `passwd`
[06:29] <coolstar> is there anywhere other than the ubuntu default repos where I can get hostapd?
[06:30] <coolstar> the current one from ubuntu's repo is broken and the outdated one works but lacks some features
[06:30] <coolstar> (outdated one as in the one before the current one)
[06:30] <ki7mt> darkelfjuggalo, boot into recovery mode: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[06:31] <quuxman> darkelfjuggalo: a simpler option is to plug a bootable disk in, boot off that, open a root prompt, mount the root from your system, run `chroot /mnt/myroot; passwd`
[06:32] <ki7mt> quuxman, that's what the how too explains
[06:32] <quuxman> I like manually changing init to /bin/bash with grub, because it doesn't require a boot disk ;-)
[06:32] <wafflej0ck> coolstar: typically you want to find the source development site and see if they provide a PPA or a deb file, the problem is the PPA is outside of the scope of being supported by canonical it's use at your own risk since you're downloading from a third party in the "worst case scenario" you would download the source and compile it but would need to read the instructions with the source or on the site that provides the source to
[06:32] <wafflej0ck> build and install the program
[06:33] <neXyon> hi, I have a weird problem, can't find anything on google :-/ I have a network card that is connected to the internet and the default route; I also have a wifi USB stick that is configured to access to an access point; now when I try to connect to this PC over the wifi network it always fails, but after I ping the other device from this PC it works; any clue what's wrong here?
[06:33] <wafflej0ck> coolstar: problem with doing it yourself is you'll never get updates and it isn't being tested by anyone but you
[06:33] <ki7mt> quuxman, fare enough, linux should == there's always more than one way to do something :-)
[06:34] <helpUbuntu> hi
[06:34] <quuxman> ok, I'm going to reboot to see if my sledgehammer fix to my completely borked hibernate state works
[06:34] <wafflej0ck> helpUbuntu: hello
[06:35] <helpUbuntu> i am getting the system is running in low graphics mode.
[06:35] <coolstar> wafflej0ck, only thing is the one in the default ubuntu repo is broken :/
[06:35] <coolstar> otherwise I'd gladly use the one in the repo
[06:35] <ki7mt> coolstar, if the repo version is not what you want / need, build it from source and use something like checkinstall  to manage it, bare in mind, you'll need to resolve the deps manually.
[06:35] <wafflej0ck> coolstar: yeah I understand sometimes it happens and sometimes I go outside the main repos but just need to let you know it's no mans land at that point
[06:36] <learning> I am planning to host my project on aws and want to encrypt home directory. I have setup password less ssh login via key. When I logout from the ssh session, will the home directory get encrypted? In that case, how the program will be able to read the text files from the filesystem?
[06:37] <ki7mt> coolstar, another option is to looks for PPA's of the latest versions, but you should consider something like y-ppa-manager to keep things sane.
[06:37] <helpUbuntu> i am new to ubuntu! i rebooted in recovery mode and did the failsafeX
[06:37] <helpUbuntu> and I am still getting the same screen.
[06:39] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I'm not sure as you have setup two path on the same network and it will prefer the faster I would think so wifi would be lower slower and maybe disconect it
[06:39] <ki7mt> helpUbuntu, It would helpful if you could describe the original problem ( as to why you needed failsafeX  to begin with), maybe you have already not sure.
[06:40] <sacarlson1> neXyon: it may or should also have 2 ip address on your network if they did work so you sure you are ping the correct ip?
[06:40] <ki7mt> .. s/would helpful/would be helpful/g ..
[06:41] <helpUbuntu> Hi ki7mt, i tried upgrading my 12.04 to 14.04. During the upgrade, my system displayed a window which said your system is running in low graphics mode and I couldnt get past that window.
[06:43] <ki7mt> helpUbuntu, I'm not a graphics expert, but this may provide some assistance: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[06:44] <helpUbuntu> I checked this link, but here after ctrl+alt+f1, i am not able to login. It says login incorrect everytime
[06:44] <helpUbuntu> I have tried resetting the password, and checked if there is a keyboard layout issue. Still no luck.
[06:45] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah it's the correct IP; how can I check if it shuts down? :-o
[06:45] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: wow maybe an encrypted /home ?
[06:46] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well you can see how it's presently setup to route  with route -n  as it will set priority at whatever hits the mask first
[06:47] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah the routing is setup fine
[06:47] <sacarlson1> neXyon: you should be able to manualy modify the order of the route if you prefer to have wifi on top
[06:47] <neXyon> 10.1.1.* is the wifi network and that's configured for the wifi, the normal ethernet network is in a different network
[06:47] <ki7mt> helpUbuntu, it would appear you have multiple issues unfortunately. If you PW is not working, you need resolve that before anything else can transpire.
[06:48] <helpUbuntu> hi sacarlson1, there is no .ecryptfs folder. I am assuming hence not encrypted.
[06:48] <sacarlson1> neXyon: oh they are on subnets?  so then behind nat so only one direction to start might be the case
[06:49] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: ok that's out.  you ever login from a term before?
[06:50] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, no I have never done that before. I am new to this stuff :)
[06:50] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: you should be able to boot as single user mode and see what the state of the none working acount is in
[06:50] <neXyon> schmidtm: no the devices I'm trying to connect are all in the same subnet 10.1.1.1/24
[06:50] <neXyon> oops sorry schmidtm wanted to autocomplete sacarlson1
[06:51] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: see that the /home for that account is still present and see that /etc/password /etc/shadow still contain the account
[06:54] <sacarlson1> neXyon: if they are in the same subnet then the order they are listed in route would be on top I guess then
[06:54] <sacarlson1> neXyon: try change the order of route to prove or disprove that theory
[06:55] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, Checked, both the files have the entry for my username.
[06:56] <sacarlson1> neXyon: but it seems somewhat pointless to have two path to the same network but there must be some method to use it as redundent
[06:56] <quuxman> damn, that did not work
[06:57] <neXyon> sacarlson1: there is no redundant path
[06:57] <neXyon> the default eth0 device is connected to the internet, not to the private network that is a wifi
[06:58] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well then I count two subnetworks NOT one
[06:58] <shadej> hey all
[06:59] <shadej> I am trying to install adobe air but getting this error "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[06:59] <shadej> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module"", I searched the web but cant get useful info.
[06:59] <sacarlson1> neXyon: what is the total number of nics now 3?
[07:00] <sacarlson1> neXyon: instead of making me guess why not paistbin  route -n and ifconfig
[07:01] <neXyon> sacarlson1: ok let's start from scratch, the PC has two nics: eth0 which connects to the internet and wlan0 which connects to an access point in the private 10.1.1.1/24 network, I want to contact the PC with my phone in the same wifi network, but I have to ping it from the PC first before I can establish a connection from the phone
[07:01] <sacarlson1> neXyon: don't tell me show me
[07:01] <ki7mt> shadej, which version of Ubuntu ? Your probably missing a lib somewhere
[07:02] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I get confused as I speak to computers not people
[07:03] <sacarlson1> neXyon: also SHOW me iptables -L
[07:04] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I would also need the same data from the phone as how is it getting it's route info?  dhcp?
[07:05] <ki7mt> the easy way is to setup an ad-hoc hot spot. there's lots of how-too's to do that.
[07:06] <neXyon> sacarlson1: no iptables configured, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8699945/
[07:07] <darkelfjuggalo> i just changed to the root password through recovery mode... the root password is not responding to anything that requires the root password
[07:08] <neXyon> sacarlson1: phone is in via DHCP to the access point and can connect fine to a laptop in the same network, laptop also can't connect to the PC, so the problem is not on that side
[07:08] <sadfdsa> is there a good gui for mplayer, so i can pause and rewind and stuff?
[07:09] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, i checked the /var/log/auth.log, i am getting a a bunch of PAM adding faulty module lines and  pam_windbind errors PAM_USER_UNKOWN and NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USERS if that helps. What can I do?
[07:09] <ki7mt> sadfdsa, Have you looked at mplayer-gui in the repo's ?
[07:10] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well I have to assume there is missing info here as the xx.xx part and the other missing part is I would guess that each of the device have a different gateway path
[07:11] <sacarlson1> neXyon: so from that guess the ubuntu can ping the phone but the phones path to it's gateway can't find you ubuntu
[07:12] <neXyon> sacarlson1: I can connect to the PC after the PC tried to connect to the phone
[07:12] <Sunstream> Okay
[07:12] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: pam?
[07:12] <neXyon> sacarlson1: I guess it's either an arp problem, routing or the device really shuts down, because after some time without packages sent I cannot connect anymore and have to do the same again
[07:13] <Sunstream> Is there a "scandisk" or some option to test the HDD and make sure it really has a bad sector?
[07:13] <Sunstream> for lUBUNTI
[07:13] <Sunstream> um
[07:13] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: I"m not sure why pam would be involved here.  is there something different you setup on this account?
[07:13] <Sunstream> netsh?!
[07:13] <Sunstream> Netsh, why are you pinging me?
[07:13] <ki7mt> Sunstream,  sudo /sbin/fsck -t ext4  /dev/sdbx
[07:13] <Netsh> Sunstream, sory, please forgive
[07:14] <sacarlson1> helpUbuntu: oh that must be from the samba network
[07:14] <Sunstream> No I was wondering
[07:14] <Sunstream> I do not have a problem with it i was wondering
[07:14] <Netsh> Sunstream, I'm trying to script python to ping someone that says !ping
[07:14] <Sunstream> ahh
[07:14] <Netsh> I suddenly realized I was pinging everyone that said anything :(
[07:14] <sacarlson1> neXyon: oh ya that could be a power saver mode in the phone.  I've had that happen when I ssh into my phone at times
[07:14] <helpUbuntu> sacarlson1, no i did not anything. :(
[07:15] <Netsh> I've stopped that bug
[07:15] <Sunstream> well I suggest if you want to do something like that, go into the room dedicated to python scripting
[07:15] <Sunstream> nods
[07:15] <neXyon> sacarlson1: no not the phone, the wifi on the PC
[07:15] <Netsh> yeah, good call
[07:15] <Sunstream> Okay ki7mt not that I do not mind doing stuff CLI is there a GUI one?
[07:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:16] <Sunstream> thats right
[07:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Select the device and select, "Check"
[07:16] <Sunstream> thanks I forgot the name of the silly program
[07:16] <Sunstream> thank you
[07:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, welcome
[07:17] <Sunstream> btw
[07:17] <Sunstream> how do I get the CLI to quit trying to resolve host for my system with sudo commands?
[07:18]  * Viking667 departs for now
[07:18] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ya I guess the attempt to connect to the phone will update it's arp records and have maybe aid it's path.  also maybe in the network switch it sets up with arp
[07:19] <sacarlson1> neXyon: the solution being setup keep alive ping
[07:19] <ki7mt> Sunstream, not sure I understand, what commands are you using, and then what's the output ?
[07:20] <sacarlson1> neXyon: small script that set a single ping every X secounds
[07:21] <ki7mt> try pingtest with a cron: http://pingtest.sourceforge.net/
[07:21] <neXyon> sacarlson1: that's not really how I want to solve it :-/
[07:22] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well without a quick solution one uses what works at the time
[07:22] <sacarlson1> neXyon: other wise you can keep dwelling on it
[07:23] <neXyon> sacarlson1: well, the clients might get different IPs from the DHCP router, so I'd have to ping the whole subnet
[07:23] <Sunstream> I will PM it to you
[07:24] <ki7mt> Sunstream, just pastebin it .. so others can see as well.
[07:24] <sacarlson1> neXyon: other clients?  well any ping creates an arp that is seen by all
[07:24] <karab44> hello
[07:24] <neXyon> sacarlson1: lol I just found the problem
[07:24] <xeirrr> Anyone use minimal install image here?
[07:24] <sacarlson1> neXyon: cool what is it?
[07:24] <Sunstream> its just 3 lines
[07:24] <neXyon> sacarlson1: there's another PC with the same IP :-o
[07:25] <sacarlson1> neXyon: wow I would have never guessed that one
[07:25] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah, too bad I don't have that wifi for myself
[07:25] <Sunstream> Hold I gotta make it
[07:25] <potatoes_> I realize this may not be enough info to tell but can anyone explain why: grep $i node12.last | cut -d ' ' -f2 | sort -u | see -i "/$i/d" node12.txt apparently deletes everything from the file
[07:25] <karab44> guys I had app installed via application market and I downloaded latest version directly from the web. It was beautiful until I haven't uninstalled old one. Nautilus stopped launching my app when clicking on the file. Now I have to launch the app and open files from the program. How to bring back direct file opening?
[07:26] <neXyon> sacarlson1: and the only info I got from the admin is that 10 to 200 is DHCP and I can use the rest for static -.-
[07:26] <geovane> algum brasileiro ?
[07:26] <ki7mt> xeirrr, whats' the question. allot of folks do QA install testing here ..
[07:26] <sacarlson1> neXyon: you have more than one dhcp running on one network?  hows that even posible?
[07:26] <neXyon> sacarlson1: it's only one DHCP, why do you think it's 2?
[07:27] <geovane> speak portuguese?
[07:27] <hateball> !pt
[07:27] <sacarlson1> neXyon: you can put 10 dhcp servers on it.  I"ve had 2 runing by accident
[07:27] <ki7mt> karab44, You more than likely need an appropriate .desktop file, which are provided by the package maintainers, you could add one to ~/.local/share/applications directory if the souce project doesn't provide one.
[07:27] <xeirrr> kit7mt: fluxbox doesn't looks clear...
[07:28] <neXyon> sacarlson1: I meant the DHCP server handles 10.1.1.10 to 10.1.1.200 so the rest is free for statics like I need for that PC that should work as a local server
[07:28] <sacarlson1> neXyon: well ping the fringes and see what's out there
[07:29] <karab44> ki7mt: it's a bit different issue. I am not able to launch files with particular extensions with that program, not program itself. In example if you have xcf extensions you would like the GIMP opens it.
[07:29] <ki7mt> karab44, Oh, file associations, that's a bit different.
[07:30] <karab44> yes, file associations
[07:30] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I've done it at my company back in the old days with all static ip I didnt' wait for an admin to hook me in I would just ping find an opening and hook in.  but later the guy would come to work and have problems with me on the same ip is him
[07:30] <neXyon> sacarlson1: just ran nmap :D
[07:30] <ki7mt> karab44, The "easiest way" that I use, is to use Ubuntu Tweak for that.
[07:30] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ya I think nmap will ping ranges
[07:31] <ki7mt> karab44, This may help, quick search: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289337/how-can-i-change-file-association-globally
[07:31] <ki7mt> xeirrr, this may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[07:31] <karab44> ki7mt: thank you much! I'll read some and try some :)
[07:32] <neXyon> sacarlson1: now it works, thanks for the help!
[07:32] <ki7mt> Re: ping range example: nmap -sP -R 192.168.0.1-254
[07:32] <sacarlson1> neXyon: I'm not sure I was any help at all
[07:33] <neXyon> sacarlson1: but you showed a lot of effort :)
[07:33] <ki7mt> +1
[07:33] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ha ha ya right
[07:33] <neXyon> sacarlson1: so thanks for your time and I hope we both learned something ;)
[07:34] <sacarlson1> neXyon: yup next time I will ask what evirnment first as most are at home I assume that first
[07:36] <ki7mt> I forgot how to do it, but there's a way to give somebody a cookie here .. sacarlson1 deserves one :-)
[07:36] <neXyon> sacarlson1: yeah, assumptions are the general problem here; I just thought, a number between 200 and 255, let's just take 222, that's easy to type, assuming that nobody had the same idea before xD
[07:37] <sacarlson1> ki7mt: for steering people in the wrong direction ha ha
[07:37] <sacarlson1> neXyon: ya I start at 111
[07:38] <Sunstream> okay made it http://paste.ubuntu.com/8700276/ warning it is less than 30 lines long :)
[07:39] <Sunstream> the other question is why is it saying on lintes 7 and 8 to remove something EVERYTIME I use sudo apt-get?
[07:39] <Sunstream> lines*
[07:39] <oskie> anyone know why debsums complain about /sbin/start-stop-daemon this morning?
[07:40] <ki7mt> !cookie > sacarlson1
[07:41] <ki7mt> whoops .. That didn't work, sorry fer the PM sacarlson1
[07:41] <sacarlson1> ki7mt: dam that's not my real name it's sacarlson with no 1
[07:41] <sacarlson1> ki7mt: that's ok
[07:41] <sacarlson1> let me login to my correct name
[07:41] <ki7mt> that's what showing up in the channel, maybe you got another nic logged in or something.
[07:41] <neXyon> k, time to go home, cya!
[07:42] <sacarlson1> yes every 24 hours I get a new ip so it knock  me off my correct name
[07:43] <sacarlson> ki7mt: this is the real me
[07:43] <ki7mt> lol .. ok
[07:43] <ki7mt> I still haven't figure out this cookie business :-)
[07:44] <Sunstream> ki7mt, I did the paste
[07:44] <Sunstream> ki7mt,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8700276/
[07:45] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Looks ok to me, was there a problem ?
[07:46] <Sunstream> well yeah I wanted to know why it keeps trying to do a resolve of  my "host" name  and why it keeps asking me to remove something everytime I do the apt command
[07:47] <karab44> ki7mt: ubuntu tweak works like a charm. Many many thanks! :)
[07:47] <ki7mt> Sunstream, re: remove, that's normal package management, things that are no longer needed are suggested to remove, but they hurt anything if they remain.
[07:47] <ki7mt> karab44, Welcome. Just becareful not to change critical system extensions.
[07:48] <ki7mt> Sunstream,  .. but they "don't" hurt anything .. ..
[07:49] <ki7mt> Sunstream, ReL hosts, you may have the callsing in your hostsname or hots file, and it's not a FQDN so it wont find it.
[07:50] <ki7mt> .. hosts file ...
[07:51] <ki7mt> Sunstream, you can check it with: cat /etc/hosts ; cat /etc/hostname
[07:51] <ki7mt> Sunstream, more than likely, AD7BK should resolve to 127.0.0.1
[07:52] <Lope> is it possible to install ubuntu into a subdirectory and then have multiple ubuntu installs, in different subdirectories, on the same ext4 filesystem?
[07:53] <edition> is it sensible to install xfce alongside unity?
[07:53] <dvdchr> Hi. how do I make a .out file (C++ program) globally accessible? I have tried ln command but it's not working..
[07:53] <edition> dvdchr, try the path variable
[07:53] <ki7mt> Sunstream, your /etc/hosts file should have something like:  127.0.0.1    localhost.localdomain localhost 127.0.1.1   < my-machine>
[07:53] <cloudbud> i am trying to give apache the ownership of a document root using command chown -R root:apache /mnt/html but i am getting error chown: invalid group: `root:apache'
[07:53] <cloudbud> pls helpo
[07:54] <dvdchr> edition, you mean editing the .bashrc file, yes?
[07:54] <ki7mt> Lope, Ues, in a debootstrap or VM
[07:54] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Yes .. sri type
[07:54] <edition> dvdchr, "echo $PATH" and tell me what you get.
[07:54] <sacarlson> cloudbud: I think apache group user name is www-data
[07:54] <ki7mt> +1
[07:55] <cloudbud> okay how can i verify that
[07:55] <bobin> Hi guys. I'm looking for a way to boot grub into terminal whiteout installing Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[07:55] <edition> dvdchr, to make your program 'globally accessible', you may need to add the program directory to the $PATH variable.
[07:56] <ki7mt> cloudbud, ls -al /var/www
[07:56] <cloudbud> ki7mt : its showing only root
[07:56] <edition> dvdchr, did that answer your question?
[07:57] <ki7mt> cloudbud, it should show root:www-data
[07:57] <Lope> if I move a linux install into a subdirectory, and reinstall grub, will it still boot?
[07:57] <ki7mt> cloudbud, how did you inatall Apache ?
[07:57] <cloudbud> using apt-get
[07:58] <gaobb> 我可以在ubuntu14.04上安装windows8.1吗？
[07:58] <dvdchr> edition, sorry, here's the echo: https://gist.github.com/davidchristiandy/c7f606fd69acf817ddd6
[07:58] <Sunstream> the resolving the host is therOkay how do I fix that
[08:00] <edition> dvdchr, read this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14637979/how-to-permanently-set-path-on-linux
[08:00] <ki7mt> cloudbud,  for info: http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2014/06/how-to-install-lamp-in-ubuntu-server-14-04-lts.html
[08:00] <dvdchr> edition, thanks!
[08:00] <edition> all good?
[08:01] <dvdchr> edition, I tried the sudo ln -s
[08:01] <dvdchr> but it's not working
[08:01] <dvdchr> I symlinked it to /usr/bin/program
[08:02] <edition> dvdchr: which OS are you targeting?
[08:02] <ki7mt> Sunstream, pastebin your /etc/hosts and /stc/hostname files
[08:02] <dvdchr> edition, ubuntu 12.04
[08:02] <ki7mt> .. Sunstream whoops and /etc/hostname
[08:03] <sacarlson> Lope: not unless you point grub to the path of kernel were you moved it too
[08:03] <edition> dvdchr: For applications, you should consider a package for debian based releases (ie: Ubuntu 12.04)
[08:04] <sacarlson> Lope: but it can be done
[08:04] <Lope> sacarlson: okay, then the system would boot up chroot'ed?
[08:04] <sacarlson> Lope: yes I guess it would if you set it up correctly
[08:04] <Lope> sacarlson: I think to make my life simpler, I'll split the disk into multiple partitions
[08:05] <ki7mt> dvdchr, In general, if a file is not located in /etc/login.def $PATH, the file is not executable or readable globally, however, it can still be "found" with locate, find and other search tools.
[08:06] <edition> thanks, ki7mt
[08:07] <sacarlson> Lope: I end up breaking my root up as needed like for video,  virtualbox images, downloads.... that end up filling up root and put them on availabe disks or add them later
[08:07] <sefai> hello all i need The Registration Code linux mint pls
[08:07] <dvdchr> ki7mt, noted. thanks!
[08:07] <sefai> i m sefai
[08:07] <ki7mt> dvdchr, it also depends on what the .out file is, a library, binary (executable) or what, as to where in the FHS the file should reside. If all you need is to ahve it available to a user, add it to ~/bin, and edit the ~/bin conditional in your ~/.bashrc file, then source it.
[08:08] <sacarlson> Lope: I just use symbolic links to move stuf
[08:08] <dvdchr> the .out file is an executable; using absolute path e.g. "./a.out args1 args2" it is working normally
[08:08] <ki7mt> dvdchr, The I would use /usr/local/bin rather than /usr/bin
[08:08] <ki7mt> .. then ..
[08:09] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Adding a binary to /usr/local/bin allows for local installation, without messing with the packaging directories, and is sourced in $PATH by default.
[08:11] <sefai> i m sefai i need The Registration Code linux mint pls
[08:12] <sacarlson> sefai: registration code?
[08:12] <sefai> yes
[08:12] <Shadow}}> Sorry to ask but whats the off topic channel?
[08:12] <sefai> quoi ??
[08:12] <dvdchr> ki7mt, I see. but I still need to add the directory to $PATH, right?
[08:13] <sacarlson> sefai: you mean the IRC that serves mint?
[08:13] <hateball> !mint
[08:13] <Lope> sacarlson: ok
[08:13] <sefai> ok thx
[08:13] <Guest42608> bonjourd
[08:13] <dvdchr> ki7mt, from the project directory, I've tried sudo ln -s myprogram.out /usr/local/bin/myprogram
[08:14] <dvdchr> and when I test it out it says command not found
[08:14] <Shadow}}> Whats the line for distupgrade?
[08:14] <Guest42608> ping
[08:14] <Guest42608> comment on fais une attaque ddos
[08:14] <Guest42608> avec comande
[08:15] <Guest42608> comande
[08:15] <Shadow}}> "apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y && ___ && autoremove -y" I can't get the dist upgrade line right.
[08:15] <ki7mt> dvdchr, You dont need to ln -s, unless you want an alias ... use gnu core utils instll ; sudo install -m755 <binary-name> /usr/local/bin/<binary-name>
[08:16] <Shunya> hi
[08:16] <ki7mt> Hi
[08:16] <Shadow}}> Anyone?...
[08:17] <Shunya> :D
[08:17] <ki7mt> dvdchr, then test you bianry with: <binary-name> --help or whatever your arg1 arg2 is
[08:17] <Shadow}}> I thought it was apt-get distupgrade or dist-upgrade?..
[08:17] <Shunya> anyone pls recommend me good typing tutor for ubuntu
[08:17] <linuxmint> Shunya: best is Mavis Beacon.
[08:17] <Shunya> linuxmint thanks... i'll try it now
[08:17] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Klavaro is another
[08:18] <ki7mt> whoops .. Shunya .. Klavaro .. sri Sunstream  .. hit the tab too fast :-)
[08:19] <Shunya> ki7mt, thanks...
[08:19] <dvdchr> ki7mt, what about file dependancies? The binary depends on some folders and text files adjacent to it
[08:20] <linuxmint> Shunya: you're welcome :-)
[08:20] <dvdchr> *dependencies
[08:21] <ki7mt> dvdchr, system dependencies should be picked up automatically, if you binary is looking for libs and things you've built, you need to install them where they need to be, for example: /usr/local/lib  or /usr/local/share/man1 etc
[08:22] <ki7mt> dvdchr, If the folders are shared, and not system / ARCH dependent, /usr/local/share/<foldername> etc
[08:23] <dvdchr> ki7mt, okay, thanks!
[08:23] <ki7mt> dvdchr, I would also recommend you use pkg-config to install you program, as that solves allot of these issues.
[08:23] <diggy> hoppefull not long till new mint edition
[08:25] <ki7mt> diggy, You dont need it, just install mate on Ubuntu, and you'l have allot less bugs.
[08:27] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Did you get your hostname issue resolved .. I got side-tracked fer a bit
[08:27] <dvdchr> ki7mt, one last thing; how do I uninstall the program if I installed it via gnu install?
[08:29] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Losts of ways, through the use of a manifest file, or manually. Your make install target should have both an install and uninstall target, listing the things you install, and thus, would uninstall using "make uninstall"
[08:30] <ki7mt> dvdchr, Alternatives for this is an application called checkinstall .. does allot of this work for you when managing souce build installations.
[08:30] <ki7mt> dvdchr, info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[08:31] <dvdchr> ki7mt, how about programs installed via your command earlier: sudo install -m755 <binary-name> /usr/local/bin/<binary-name>
[08:32] <ki7mt> dvdchr, However, like I said earlier, a properly constructed Makefile should account for both installation and removal.
[08:33] <Sunstream> no I had to do a emergency reboot so I lost that info
[08:33] <ki7mt> dvdchr, sudo install is a imple wrapper script, it simply allows for ag1, arg2, arg3 etc, see man install .. uninstall is simply removing the bianry with an sudo rm -f /usr/local/bin/<binary-name>
[08:34] <ki7mt> Sunstream, pastebin your /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files so we can have a look at them.
[08:35] <Sunstream> So I need the command to fix that
[08:35] <dvdchr> ki7mt, thanks!
[08:35] <ki7mt> Sunstream, more than likely, you need to set the host name up properly, like 127.0.0.1 or something simple, but it's not causing any major grief, other than saying it cant find it.
[08:36] <bmatusiak> anybody know why html5 apps built on ububtu-sdk dont work on touch device?
[08:36] <Sunstream> Actually I need  the commands to do it ki7mt  reasons being is i had to REISUB
[08:36] <ki7mt> Sunstream, commands to do what ?
[08:37] <Sunstream> to get to the file and do the edit
[08:37] <ki7mt> Sunstream, first, cat /etc/hosts | pastebinit
[08:37] <ki7mt> then we can look at what needs doing.
[08:38] <klander> hey guys. I'm trying to upgrade to 14.10 with do-release-upgrade but it comes back with No new release version found.
[08:39] <klander> (ubuntu server)
[08:39] <Sunstream> well why should I do that since it has never been edited
[08:40] <Sunstream> I assume that the default file is the same
[08:40] <Sunstream> I will do it b
[08:40] <Sunstream> hold
[08:40] <venkat_330> Getting partition boundary error when using GPARTED: http://pastebin.com/gxKHaGZj
[08:41] <DJones> klander: If your on 14.04, I would guess that update manager is currently set to only show LTS upgrades
[08:41] <DJones> klander: Just trying to remember where the flag is that needs changing
[08:41] <ki7mt> klander, Check:  cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades |grep Prompt  .. it should say normal v.s lts, if not edit to say normal,
[08:41] <klander> DJones: ah i see. how might i get around that?
[08:41] <klander> cool
[08:42] <klander> Prompt=lts
[08:43] <sacarlson> klander:  I would think before you jump.  lts is better long term
[08:43] <ki7mt> klander, sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  && chenge Prompt=normal && sudp apt-get update  .. then sudo do-release-upgrade
[08:43] <sacarlson> klander: you can backport most if not all that run on 14.10
[08:44] <ki7mt> klander, Assuming you on 14.04 and want 14.10 that is.
[08:44] <DJones> klander: Must admit, I'd agree with sacarlson about sticking with LTS for a server release, you get 5 years support, won't need to keep continually upgrading every 9 months
[08:44] <ki7mt> +1 for servers LTS is best
[08:44] <Sunstream> ki7mt, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8700941/
[08:44] <Sunstream> +1?
[08:44] <klander> thats alright, its not production
[08:45] <klander> thanks a bunch :)
[08:45] <Sunstream> is Utopian Unicorn LTS?
[08:45] <DJones> Sunstream: No, 16.06 is next LTS
[08:45] <DJones> Sunstream: LTS is releases every 2 years
[08:45] <Sunstream> nods
[08:45] <edition> is there a good book on Qt?
[08:46] <Sunstream> then after 9 months
[08:46] <ki7mt> Sunstream, No. it's only supported until July 2015 or there abouts.
[08:46] <Sunstream> I lose support for UU?
[08:46] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Yes, after July next year you will.
[08:46] <DJones> Sunstream: Yep, thats it, LTS is supported for 56 years from release, but non LTS will only be supported and get updates for 9 months
[08:47] <DJones> 5 years even
[08:47] <DJones> 56 year support would be great
[08:47] <Sunstream> 56 years wow
[08:47] <ki7mt> :-) 56yrs, Mark would not be happy with that
[08:47] <ki7mt> Sunstream, You hosts file looks ok to me.
[08:47] <sacarlson> Sunstream: and also note all the people in here that after upgrade things that were working perfect now no longer work.  best not to fix it if not broken
[08:48] <Sunstream> then
[08:48] <Sunstream> if it is ok
[08:48] <Sunstream> why is it still giving me unable to resovle
[08:48] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Actually, the second line, AD7BK-laptop .. may need to be just laptop, as that's the host name.
[08:49] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Actually, my bad, suntop looks to be the hostname ..
[08:50] <srccon> what ever happened to the ubuntu-android, meaning the one that ran desktop ubuntu when connected to a monitor
[08:50] <ki7mt> Sunstream, suntop@AD7BK == <hostname>:$USER .. so that may be the issue.
[08:51] <ki7mt> Sunstream, So in /etc/hosts  .. try changing : 127.0.1.1 AD7BK-Laptop  to 127.0.1.1 suntop
[08:51] <Sunstream> sudo leafpad hosts (while in the folder?)
[08:52] <srccon> wouldn't it be sudo leafpad /etc/hosts
[08:52] <ki7mt> Sunstream, if you on Xubuntu, I suppose it's Leafpad .. so .. sudo leafpad /etc/hosts
[08:53] <srccon> is leafpad good? I have geany, but it feels a little to heavy for notes, what is the best small GUI notepad?
[08:53] <srccon> vim in the terminal, of course... ;)
[08:53] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Or you could just: sudo hostname suntop
[08:54] <diggy> systemd is filling up all my availble ram
[08:54] <7GHAAGGJI> who
[08:54] <7GHAAGGJI> whois
[08:54] <ki7mt> Sunstream, then: sudo /etc/init.d/hostname.sh start
[08:54] <diggy> world health organization
[08:54] <7GHAAGGJI> nick FeierabendBier
[08:55] <7GHAAGGJI> who
[08:55] <Sunstream> actually ki7mt that still said couldnt reslove
[08:55] <Sunstream> but when I changed it to AD7BK it stopped  it
[08:55] <Lope> is it worth installing fail2ban for my SSH server?
[08:55] <Sunstream> it is user@HOST
[08:56] <Sunstream> and why is it 127.0.1.1 I thought it was always 127.0.0.1
[08:56] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Yes, that was a typo on my part, sri, should be 127.0.0.1
[08:57] <Sunstream> well 127.0.1.1 is in the file
[08:57] <Sunstream> not your fault
[08:57] <ki7mt> Sunstream, user@HOST doesn't seem correct, but if it's working .. ok.
[08:57] <7GHAAGGJI> de change [+i] for user root____4
[08:57] <Sunstream> it is there look at the pastebin
[08:57] <7GHAAGGJI> de change [+i] for user root____4
[08:57] <7GHAAGGJI> de change [+i] for user root____4
[08:57] <evilwombat> Okay, silly question. Is there anything in 14.04 x86_64 ubuntu that would natively allow it to execute ARM binaries?
[08:58] <evilwombat> ... because I accidentally launched an ARM binary and it appears to be executing on my x86_64 box... as well as on my phone. I would please like to know (a) how the f*@$ this is possible, or (b) who was it that slipped me LSD.
[08:59] <Sunstream> evilwombat, take a deep breath and calm down cartoon swaring will not help the case
[09:00] <Morpheusxnl> just a general question, i have ubuntu 14.04 installed. Would it be wise to install cinnamon?
[09:01] <ki7mt> Sunstream, You should also do a reboot, just to make sure things set properly.
[09:01] <evilwombat> Sunstream, it's not real swearing... I'm just baffled by seeing something that I did not think was possible, unless somehow 14.04 is now emulating an ARM system through binfmt_misc or some such
[09:01] <bobin89> Hi guys. Do someone know how to boot grub installer to terminal?
[09:02] <Sunstream> ki7mt, is all local hosts 127.x.x.x or is it 127.0.x.x?
[09:02] <evilwombat> Sunstream, ah, that's exactly what it is. strace tells the story - readlink("/proc/self/exe", "/usr/bin/qemu-arm-static", 4096) = 24
[09:02] <DJones> !text | bobin89 I think this is still valid,
[09:03] <Sunstream> Well evilwombat  I seen linux do the weirdest things ya know. I hear with the right stuff it can run on a toaster :) it may be doing that
[09:03] <Sunstream> okay ki7mt rebooting
[09:04] <ki7mt> Sunstream, The first line in hosts should be 127.0.0.1 localhost and the second, 127.0.1.1 <hostname>
[09:04] <qwebirc138142> hey
[09:05] <oki> Hello to everyone, i have a question how can i add application Scribus on toolbar, but when i look in search files and i didn't find it, already was installed through terminal, in ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[09:07] <ki7mt> oki, How are you seaching for files ?
[09:07] <bobin89> DJones, ubottu: I dont get that far, I´m in the first screen I can choose Try ubuntu, install ubuntu, so on And I can edit the line e and c
[09:08] <ChaosBringer> is anyone else having issues with apt-get update after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10? I keep having to re-add GPG keys
[09:08] <ChaosBringer> and it never stops :/
[09:08] <DJones> bobin89: Ah, I'm not sure whether that will work on a live cd
[09:08] <ChaosBringer> Even for all my canonical repositories
[09:09] <ChaosBringer> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com utopic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[09:09] <oki> ki7mt: from icon in toolbar for search files,etcc
[09:10] <bobin89> DJones: I dont know either but I need to try
[09:10] <ki7mt> ChaosBringer, Try clearing /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d ; sudo apt-get update  ; sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys KEY
[09:10] <DJones> bobin89: Hopefully somebody else here can help you with that
[09:11] <lancelot_of> hallo
[09:11] <ChaosBringer> ki7mt, Yeah, figured based on the error. Already cleared the gpg trusted dir. Thanks!
[09:12] <ki7mt> Cool
[09:12] <lancelot_of> how to change lightdm default background? i did it via dconf-editor, canonical, unity greeter, but after loading the desired background, this is overlayed by the default one of ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I can't find the corresponding key in dconf. Can you please help me?
[09:13] <ki7mt> oki, You mean Unity  .. you should be able to open Unity, and type in Scribus
[09:14] <out_of_color> can i install ubuntu on my tablet?
[09:14] <ki7mt> oki, Additionaly,is using Unity, check your filters, and that Appplicaitons is set
[09:14] <oki> ki7mt:  yes i alreday do that but again not show me
[09:15] <ki7mt> oki, Is this 14.04 or 14.10
[09:15] <Sunstream> ki7mt, success
[09:15] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Cool.
[09:16] <Sunstream> No more sillyness with the "cant resolve"
[09:16] <ki7mt> Sunstream, That seems like a bug though, as the hostname file sets the host in /etc/hosts
[09:17] <ki7mt> Sunstream, so when you just tye hostname on the command like, whatever is rendered there, should populate the /etc/hosts file, in theory
[09:18] <Sunstream> yep
[09:18] <oki> in terminal show me this in terminal: Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[09:18] <oki> Release:14.04 Codename:trusty, but i upgraded on 14.10.
[09:19] <Sunstream> ki7mt,  how do I do the id like he did
[09:20] <ki7mt> Sunstream, lsb_release -a
[09:20] <out_of_color> is there a way to reinstall android firmware using ubuntu?
[09:21] <ki7mt> oki, Well, seems like a bug ot me, as it should render in scopes, so, you can launch the app rfom the terminal, then right click the icon and lock it to the Unity bar, or, forece re-install of the scopes.
[09:21] <Sunstream> cool
[09:21] <Sunstream> thanks
[09:22] <Sunstream> now I still want to know one thing
[09:22] <Sunstream> What is a Utopian Unicorn?
[09:23] <Sunstream> Wow Lynx has a newer version 2.8.9dev1-2
[09:24] <ki7mt> Sunstream, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/ubuntu-14-10-name-utopic-unicorn
[09:25] <ki7mt> Sunstream, A.K.A ~ The Unicorn is an animal from mythology generally depicted as Equidae with a lone, long spiralled horn on their heads.
[09:27] <Sunstream> Okay now I got gparted which does not have what I want it seems (I need to do a scandisk to make sure all sectors are good
[09:28] <ki7mt> Sunstream, That's back to the original thing then, fsck
[09:29] <Sunstream> okay
[09:29] <Sunstream> wow you can install android apps on Ubuntu?!
[09:29] <stevenblablabla> Can I compile ubuntu for armv6 raspberry pis?
[09:29] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Also look ar man badblocks
[09:30] <ki7mt> look at: man badblocks
[09:30] <waressearcher2> I used to use "cryptoloop" module to create and use encrypted partitions but I found that TrueCrypt, how are they differ ? is "cryptoloop" obsolete in anyway ?
[09:33] <stevenblablabla> anybody?
[09:33] <ki7mt> waressearcher2, There are several alternatives, GnuPG, dm-crypt + LUKS, EncFS, several others.
[09:35] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Yes, several ways, here's a quick how to: http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/kernel/building.md
[09:36] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Obviously, if your building on a Ubuntu box, you'll be cross-compiling.
[09:36] <stevenblablabla> I'
[09:36] <Sunstream> eeeeeek
[09:36] <Sunstream> that is too hard to use
[09:36] <stevenblablabla> m building for arm on a mac pro1,1
[09:37] <stevenblablabla> 2 x 2.66 GHz Duel-Core Intel Xeon
[09:37] <Sunstream> there has to be a simpler prgram
[09:37] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Then I would ask the Raspbian folks how best to proceed.
[09:38] <Sunstream> I will have to make a choice
[09:38] <Sunstream> live with the 1 bad block
[09:38] <waressearcher2> I used to use "cryptoloop" module to create and use encrypted partitions but I found that TrueCrypt, how are they differ ? is "cryptoloop" obsolete in anyway ?
[09:38] <Sunstream> or see if it can be fixed with a simple program
[09:38] <stevenblablabla> I really wish every license was as flexible as the bsd licences
[09:39] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Most disks, even the highest quality disk, have some bad sectors / blocks. Fortunately, *Nix does a good job of avoiding them.
[09:39] <stevenblablabla> ki7mt: using TRIM? or is that Android only?
[09:39] <Sunstream> well I just want to verify that it is really bad thats allll
[09:39] <Sunstream> gparted did not have any scan option
[09:39] <Sunstream> badblocks requires a very specific command structure
[09:40] <Sunstream> meaning I need to knw how to do the command correctly
[09:40] <ki7mt> stevenblablabla, Pass, I dont build Raspbian
[09:40] <Killjoy> hello
[09:40] <Guest50246> hey
[09:40] <Sunstream> it is not like I can go scandsk D: /f
[09:40] <Guest50246> can u see me texting?
[09:41] <Sunstream> Guest50246, no we cant
[09:41] <Guest50246> lol
[09:41] <stevenblablabla> TRIM gives ssds that extra bit of life
[09:41] <Guest50246> are we the only ones here
[09:41] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Maybe this can give you a few more options: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/37659/the-beginners-guide-to-linux-disk-utilities/
[09:41] <Guest50246> ???
[09:41] <Sunstream> theres your answer :D
[09:41] <Guest50246> how do I change my nickname?
[09:41] <Sunstream> yeah that likely will
[09:42] <Guest50246> (0-0)
[09:42] <Sunstream> what you do to change thy nick is use /nick ineedtochange
[09:42] <Sunstream> being ineedtochange is to be replaced with what you want to be :D
[09:42] <funnymouth> so hey
[09:42] <Sunstream> :) see there
[09:42] <funnymouth> thnx
[09:42] <Sunstream> nods
[09:43] <funnymouth> (0-0)
[09:43] <ki7mt> Sunstream, This seems like it should do the trick pretty easy: sudo fsck -l bad-blocks /dev/sdx
[09:43] <rivarun> hi guys. what's the way to obtain GNU realpath which has options like --relative-base?
[09:43] <Sunstream> reading
[09:43] <funnymouth> d
[09:43] <rivarun> https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/realpath-invocation.html
[09:43] <funnymouth> llo
[09:43] <funnymouth> lol
[09:43] <Sunstream> fsck is that short for file system check?
[09:43] <Killj0y> so u guys hackers
[09:44] <ki7mt> _PATH=$(basename $0) ; echo $_PATH
[09:44] <ki7mt> Killj0y, No
[09:44] <MindSpark> hi guys, is there a way to inherit group permissions. Something like setgid but for permissions rather than group?
[09:44] <waressearcher2> I lost connection anyone answered my question ?
[09:44] <waressearcher2> I used to use "cryptoloop" module to create and use encrypted partitions but I found that TrueCrypt, how are they differ ? is "cryptoloop" obsolete in anyway ?
[09:45] <Killj0y>  sunstream is your ip  192.230.163.132
[09:45] <Sunstream> heh if you do fsck without arguements and you say yes to the warning to continue you might as well kiss your system bye bye
[09:45] <Killj0y>  sunstream is your ip  192.230.163.132???
[09:45] <stevenblablabla> Sunstream: Don't run fsck with the disk mounted either
[09:46] <MindSpark> Sunstream: fix errors makes you kiss your system goodbye?
[09:46] <DJones> Killj0y: This channel is for Ubuntu operating system support, if you have a support issue, please feel free to ask the question, be aware that the channel isn't for general chat
[09:46] <Sunstream> no if you do not heed the warning and use it on the system drive while mounted
[09:46] <Killj0y> do u guys know how i can remotely control with my ubuntu computer my VAIO windows 7 laptop?
[09:46] <Sunstream> Killj0y, i do not know why?
[09:47] <ki7mt> Killj0y, RDP
[09:47] <Killj0y> so i can play a prank on my sister for being annoying as hell
[09:47] <stevenblablabla> Remote X through ssh would work
[09:47] <stevenblablabla> I've launched programs on a Mac that are inside a vm
[09:47] <Killj0y> WHATS RDP??????
[09:47] <Sunstream> Remote Desktop Protocol
[09:47] <ki7mt> Killj0y, http://www.7tutorials.com/connecting-windows-remote-desktop-ubuntu
[09:48] <Killj0y> how do i use RDP?????
[09:48] <Sunstream> I guess U an
[09:48] <Sunstream> Killj0y,  I am i guess why?
[09:48] <ki7mt> Killj0y, see above How-Too ^^^
[09:48] <Killj0y> thnx bruv
[09:48] <Killj0y> brb
[09:49] <MindSpark> Sunstream: it doesn’t mean you kiss your system bye bye, it means that you might be changing files that are currently in use.
[09:49] <MindSpark> which could but doesn’t have to result in loss
[09:51] <Morpheusxnl> just a general question, i have ubuntu 14.04 installed. Would it be wise to install cinnamon?
[09:53] <Sunstream> well it has a scary warning
[09:53] <Sunstream> and I wish I could use disk utility
[09:53] <Sunstream> but
[09:53] <Sunstream> it is not in lubuntu
[09:53] <ki7mt> Morpheusxnl, "wise" that's up to the user, using PPA's ans such is always at the users discretion.
[09:54] <Fatboy_Slim> Does anybody here use ubuntu on a high DPI laptop screen? I have a Lenovo laptop with 14" screen and 2560x1440 resolution. Im having problems getting large enough text size in all my programs :/
[09:54] <ki7mt> Morpheusxnl, If you want to test it safely, install VirtualBox, and install it there.
[09:55] <Sunstream> I got 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt. ki7mt
[09:55] <sacarlson> Fatboy_Slim: I think there is a way to chage font size but might just be easier to change resolution of the screen more fitting for your vision
[09:55] <alokg> Do Selinux support ubuntu?
[09:55] <Sunstream> i did dismount the drive
[09:56] <Sunstream> before doing the command and this drive is "empty"
[09:56] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Like the others have posted, best way to run these thnigs is from a LiveCD, so yu cna ensure the volume is not mounted.
[09:56] <sacarlson> Fatboy_Slim: also if I recall when I tried to change font size it didn't seem to be active in all apps as some use different params I guess to change
[09:57] <Sunstream> well the file system is not mounted
[09:57] <Sunstream> I did unmount it
[09:57] <Sunstream> I know how to do that
[09:57] <oki> ki7mt: seems look some files doesn't upgraded yet, i in upgrade that files in process now and then i try to again install
[09:57] <Sunstream> I really do not want to mess around with liveCD
[09:58] <ki7mt> Sunstream, is this drive part of your installation or a secondary volume ?
[09:58] <ki7mt> oki, Ok
[09:58] <Sunstream> options are as follows Remove dirty bit or no action and this is the secondary volume or rather a seperate HDD that is not the system drive ki7mt
[10:00] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Ok, well if you've unmounted the volume, then should be ok. I dont knwo what Remove dirty bit means, so can't really advise on that.
[10:00] <Fatboy_Slim> sacarlson: yes thats my experience as well, changing font size don't work on all programs, and I need to set it manually in half of my programs :/
[10:01] <Sunstream> Well a "dirty bit" is part of fat32 that reports that it was not unmounted correctly or the system was turned off when it was in use. I will just remove it
[10:01] <Killj0y> i think its workin bruvs thnx
[10:01] <Killj0y> u
[10:02] <Killj0y> =
[10:02] <Killj0y> best
[10:02] <stevenblablabla> Killj0y:
[10:02] <Killj0y> yeh
[10:02] <stevenblablabla> go watch killbill and killbill 2
[10:02] <Killj0y> um...
[10:02] <Killj0y> ok?
[10:02] <Sunstream> Killj0y, why did you ask me about my IP
[10:02] <Killj0y> trying to freak u out as ajoke
[10:02] <Killj0y> lol
[10:03] <ki7mt> Sunstream, He just looked at you Nic, as it lists ur IP addy, no biggy.
[10:03] <stevenblablabla> Ubuntu sucks and you all know it!
[10:03] <stevenblablabla> Lol jk
[10:03] <Guest12343> it does?
[10:04] <Sunstream> heh
[10:04] <Sunstream> I know
[10:04] <stevenblablabla> get debian!
[10:04] <Meerkat> i'm not too happy about the amount of bugs still present in 14.04.
[10:04] <Killj0y> when i try to connect it says "Unable to connect to RDP server " and then my ip
[10:04] <Sunstream> Best works on a n00b who knows his/her ip but don't know what he was doing is harmless lol
[10:05] <Ben64> Meerkat: report them?
[10:05] <Killj0y> it says that when i try to connct to my other vaio laptop
[10:05] <Killj0y> HELP! PLZ
[10:05] <Meerkat> Ben64, they are all reported
[10:05] <Meerkat> well, most atleast.
[10:05] <ki7mt> Sunstream, If your really concerned, talks with Freenode about getting a cloak.
[10:06] <Guest12343> Anyone here familiar with lubuntu?
[10:06] <Killj0y> Sunstream to find out someones ip just click on their name its wut i did
[10:06] <Killj0y> now the...
[10:06] <Killj0y> PLZ HELP!
[10:06] <Killj0y> WITH THIS ISSUE
[10:06] <Guest12343> no....
[10:06] <Guest12343> I'm not that desperate.
[10:06] <Ben64> Killj0y: please don't
[10:06] <DJ_Unibob> I use ubuntu as well as kubuntu, not familiar with lubuntu, however.  :/
[10:06] <Killj0y> PLEASE DONT WUT
[10:07] <Guest12343> Just wondering if I can add the alt+f9/10 window commands.
[10:07] <ki7mt> Killj0y, what you doing is not an issue, you simply don't know how to access your sisters box, that would be between you and her.
[10:07] <Ben64> Killj0y: unnecessary lines like that, if you need help, use one line to fully explain the issue
[10:07] <sorinello> Hello. What is the solution for installing VBoxGuest Additions on an Ubuntu 14.10, since it seems that the X Server is not found anymore
[10:07] <Killj0y> i just explained the issu
[10:07] <Killj0y> when i try to connect it says "Unable to connect to RDP server " and then my ip
[10:08] <Ben64> Killj0y: so don't do the "plz help" stuff, it is not needed. 1. make sure the rdp server is running 2. make sure the network is working properly and the ports are open for rdp
[10:09] <Killj0y> does the rdp server haa
[10:09] <Killj0y> have to be running on her laptop as well?
[10:09] <ki7mt> and more than likely, the Windows machine is preventing access, not Ubuntu.
[10:09] <Ben64> it has to be running on whatever you want to connect to
[10:09] <Killj0y> i enabled acces like it said on the steps
[10:11] <cloudbud> I change the mysql data directory and now when restarting the mysql getting error start: Job failed to start
[10:11] <Killj0y> hello?
[10:11] <dmionica> Hi there. I'm having a problem with the latest LTS version of both ubuntu and xubuntu, I'm guessing it's related to network manager. PPTP VPN connections don't seem to work.
[10:12] <dmionica> does anyone know a workaround for this?
[10:12] <Killj0y> msg me if u can help
[10:12] <Sunstream> sigh
[10:13] <Ben64> Killj0y: join ##windows for help getting rdp set up on the windows machine
[10:13] <Killj0y> ok
[10:14] <ki7mt> cloudbud, Did you follow a How-Too, as there's several steps required to move the data-dir
[10:15] <dmionica> Anyone?
[10:16] <ki7mt> !patience | dmionica
[10:21] <cloudbud> ki7mt : yes i have '
[10:22] <ki7mt> cloudbud, this one look fairly comprehensive, http://askubuntu.com/questions/137424/moving-mysql-datadir
[10:29] <porterhouse> hello, i would like to connect to ssh through a port other than 22 / 21. how can i know that the new port i am changing to is not alreasy taken?
[10:30] <sacarlson> dmionica: it might be you need to install some package for it to be suported
[10:30] <sacarlson> dmionica: I've never used pptp but openvpn is the same needing to install something
[10:30] <porterhouse> lets say i want to use port 6392, how can i be sure i am not blocking another service that is using it?
[10:32] <dmionica> sacarlson, The thing is I want to use PPTP instead because it's easier for me to set it up on any computer, even if I don't have admin rights.
[10:32] <billbo> ^porterhouse: Ubuntu has a /etc/services file which lists the most commonly used services even if you don't have them installed on that system.
[10:33] <dmionica> sacarlson, I've used openvpn before, but as for what I need to do, I need PPTP, which is set up on my Asus router, and everything worked fine until I updated to LTS 14
[10:33] <sacarlson> cloudbud: I'm not sure what your reading to tell you how to move it so best show us that.  also mysql might have security limits setup on ubuntu that allow it access to only certain locations unless changed
[10:34] <billbo> ^porterhouse: You can also  use"netstat -ta" to list which services you are current running.   Look for LISTEN state entries
[10:34] <porterhouse> billbo thank you, that is what i found online but could not fully understand
[10:35] <sacarlson> dmionica: check in synaptic to verify that pptp-linux is installed and if so maybe reinstall it
[10:35] <porterhouse> i see a few states - ESTABLISHED , TIME_WAIT , LISTEN,   which one means i can use that port?
[10:36] <sacarlson> dmionica: there are 3 others I see in sysnaptic with pp2p in the name.  it might be any of those
[10:36] <dmionica> sacarlson, apt-get says pptp-linux is at the latest version.
[10:37] <sacarlson> dmionica: so you do see it in network-manager then?
[10:37] <porterhouse> lets say i would like to see specifically about port 18355, what should i look for?
[10:38] <dmionica> sacarlson, the VPN option? It is there, but it always says "The VPN connection <name> failed"
[10:38] <bodom> Hi there, i've just upgraded to 14.10 and now my column list is empty in mysql-workbench. Anyone with the same issue?
[10:38] <billbo> porterhouse: Any entry in the local address column is in use at the moment.   Entries that are in LISTEN state are for actual servers.  The other states are related to established or old connections.
[10:38] <dmionica> i wrote <name> out of lazyness, btw :)
[10:39] <ki7mt> porterhouse, sudo netstat -tapen | grep ":<port-number>"
[10:39] <sacarlson> dmionica: ok well I'm not sure I've never used pptp so at most you might try connect from the command line as at times you see more info that way
[10:40] <sacarlson> dmionica: also verify from another path that the pptp is still working on the other end
[10:40] <dmionica> sacarlson, PPTP is working fine from Windows
[10:40] <billbo> porterhouse:   Each end of a connection has a port number.  That's why you need to look at the local address column.
[10:40] <dmionica> sacarlson, what do you mean from the command line? You mean configuring pptp without network manager?
[10:41] <sacarlson> dmionica: yes
[10:41] <porterhouse> ki7mt, if i enterred that line and it did not output anything, does that mean that that port is not in use and i am free to use it?
[10:41] <dmionica> sacarlson, I'm not sure how to do that, I've never configured PPTP from command line.
[10:41] <sacarlson> dmionica: all you see from networkmanager is true false it worked or not
[10:42] <sacarlson> dmionica: well your one up on me I"ve never configured it even with network-manager
[10:42] <ki7mt> porterhouse, it means, there's nothign "at the moment" listengin on that port number, but does not mean, you dont have multiple servers configured to sue that port if started.
[10:42] <porterhouse> billbo, i see, and if the port i am looking for is not on that list, does that mean that it is free or does it mean that ubuntu is not listening to it and i need to pick something from the list or add it to the list?
[10:42] <ki7mt> .. configured to use .. ..
[10:43] <dmionica> sacarlson, hmm... nevermind, apparently there is a problem with the encryption type o.O
[10:44] <sacarlson> dmionica: see that may have been more aparent at the command line
[10:44] <porterhouse> ki7mt, that sounds bad - if i use a port that i see is now free, later on some other program might start and decide to use it too?
[10:46] <ki7mt> porterhouse, Indeed, that would not be good.
[10:47] <ki7mt> porterhouse, that is why, radomly chaging ports on services it not wise, and should only be done by the server admins.
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:51] <ki7mt> Hello
[10:53] <blaaa> can I use aptitude on ubuntu 14.04?
[10:54] <steve_fi> Hey, I am wondering if there's something I need to turn on to use systemd-analyze in 14.10. I get weird errors when running it, such as: Failed to issue method call: No such property 'FirmwareTimestampMonotonic'
[10:58] <sabbie> I have two nodes running the same ubuntu version/configuration. When I do apt-get update, one of the nodes gives me a 404 on http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages for some reason. The other node updates fine. What could cause this?
[10:58] <vaskozl> Hey, on one of my computer I have wubi installed and running 14.04
[10:58] <vaskozl> can I safely delete windows?
[10:58] <porterhouse> ki7mt , billbo,   thank you very much i got what i needed
[10:58] <vaskozl> And just get left with 14.04?
[10:59] <einyx> networking probably
[10:59] <einyx> sabbie, ^
[10:59] <sacarlson> sabbie: at the same time?
[10:59] <sabbie> einyx: network is working fine, both nodes can download the Packages.gz file on that url
[11:00] <sabbie> sacarlson, yes, I'm running the update at both nodes at the same time. One node 404s while the other succeeds every time
[11:01] <sacarlson> sabbie: oh maybe the server side see's too much trafic to your ip and is adding limits.  just a bad guess but you could try another repo mirror on the other
[11:01] <einyx> sabbie, i get 404 as well on that link
[11:01] <einyx> maybe that webserver pool is behind a load balancer
[11:01] <einyx> and the less loaded webserver we are being redirected to is fucked
[11:01] <moran75> #badajoz
[11:02] <vaskozl> so can I remove windows?
[11:02] <sacarlson> vaskozl: you can close them
[11:02] <vaskozl> as in windows 7
[11:02] <vaskozl> I have a wubi insallation
[11:02] <sacarlson> vaskozl: sure it's a free world
[11:03] <vaskozl> updated to 14.04
[11:03] <vaskozl> so it's safe?
[11:03] <sacarlson> vaskozl: oh wubi then I guess not
[11:03] <vaskozl> har
[11:03] <vaskozl> anything I can do to make it standalone?
[11:04] <sacarlson> vaskozl: ya install it on a spare partition
[11:04] <vaskozl> are they installed on the same partition otherwise?
[11:04] <vaskozl> otherwise = trough wubi
[11:04] <penny> hi
[11:04] <sacarlson> vaskozl: in your case yes its installed on a virtual partion inside windows
[11:04] <Guest90199> Do we all have liunx I have
[11:05] <vaskozl> sacarlson: ok thanks
[11:05] <vaskozl> now I know
[11:05] <Svetlana> yes Guest90199
[11:05] <sabbie> einyx: but why would I be able to download the Packages.gz file then?
[11:05] <Guest90199> what is best windows or liunx
[11:05] <sabbie> I did find this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1027801
[11:06] <Henriksen> hi
[11:06] <trijntje> Guest90199: you can use whatever you like, this channel is for technical support with ubuntu, not discussions
[11:06] <Henriksen> Hi some strange issue with my linux i could not ping anything , lights was on net port and ifconfig eth0 all fine . Then I reboot to some random live CD to see if it hardware issue but that worked fine.. then i boot BACK to my linux and voila it also works again, so i cant understand it like something got reset? I tried everything before dhcpcd dhclient, static ip etc etc but nothing would work anyone know what could have been res
[11:06] <einyx> sabbie, cause that part maybe is not fucked
[11:06] <hashworks> When I open a new link in chrome it moves chrome to the main monitor, same for other programs. Any way to turn this behaviour off?
[11:07] <einyx> sabbie, normally this shit happen when the mirroring is happening in the background
[11:07] <einyx> change mirror
[11:10] <hardtail>  anyone know how to work through black screen of death while trying to install//load ubuntu
[11:10] <sabbie> einyx: it works with the german mirror. I'm still pretty curious what could cause this though..
[11:11] <sabbie> both nodes get exactly the same http responses..
[11:12] <b3h3m0th> one of my keys (say i) is not working. There is a key which I hardly use (say `). How do I bind ` hardware key to i ?
[11:12] <hashworks> hardtail: Add nomodeset to the boot parameters
[11:12] <DJones> !nomodeset | hashworks
[11:13] <sacarlson> sabbie: that bug was last seen in 2012 so I"m not sure it's related or not
[11:15] <hardtail> @hashworks in my install last night we added no mode set and when rebooted after the install the computer is inoperable - just black
[11:16] <hashworks> What graphic card is used?
[11:17] <hardtail> it's an integrated intel
[11:17] <hashworks> And the display is connected by motherboard?
[11:17] <hashworks> Should work out of the box
[11:17] <hardtail> I would assume so, it's a transformer book
[11:17] <hardtail> well i can't even load bios now
[11:19] <iiiiiii> try to use RGB/HDMI port with external monitor
[11:20] <hardtail> i can't use an external monitor it's a hybrid tablet/laptop doesn't have the port
[11:21] <hashworks> Model?
[11:22] <hardtail> asus transformer book t100
[11:22] <Jeeves_Moss> hardtail, good little toy
[11:22] <Jeeves_Moss> you can use the micro HDMI
[11:22] <hardtail> jeeves_moss i thought so too, i hate windows XD...yes i do not have one
[11:23] <hardtail> http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/
[11:23] <Jeeves_Moss> hardtail, well, I've yet to get past the loading part.  I can't get it to see anything other than windows
[11:23] <hardtail> following this specific tutorial jeeves
[11:24] <Jeeves_Moss> ohhh, watch out Windows, you've got a new contender.
[11:24] <Jeeves_Moss> right now, I'm almost 100% out of space on the root, and all of that is windows BLOAT!
[11:26] <hardtail> ok. i made a new bootable usb. i can load grub. is there anything we can do from here
[11:26] <hashworks> Jeeves_Moss: Left windows in another partition in case I would need it, after 2 months without booting it I might blow it into space now :D
[11:27] <Jeeves_Moss> lol.  well, would be nice to unlock all the shiny in the EFI.  like 64 bit windows and the VT abilities
[11:29] <Jeeves_Moss> <goes looking for an extenal drive>.....
[11:29] <Jeeves_Moss> before I blow my copy away, is there a good Ubuntu replacement for Outlook that talkes nativly to exchange?
[11:30] <cfhowlett> Jeeves_Moss, there's one that's hit the news - wait 1
[11:30] <Jeeves_Moss> ok.  I was using some plugin for Thunderbird, then they got all preachy about it and wanted $$
[11:32] <Jeeves_Moss> holly hell, this'll take the rest of the night.
[11:33] <cfhowlett> Jeeves_Moss, "citadel" was the package I read about. no direct experience with it, however.
[11:34] <hashworks> *bump* When I open a new link in chrome it moves chrome to the main monitor, same for other programs. Any way to turn this behaviour off?
[11:34] <adminus> hello test )
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !test | adminus
[11:35] <Jeeves_Moss> cfhowlett, thanks.  googling now
[11:36] <hardtail> i am editing 'try ubunti' supposed to replace quiet splash with 'video=VGA-1:1368x768e reboot=pci,force i am unable to type character after 'v' wtf?
[11:37] <Jeeves_Moss> stupid rsync.  grrr, I'm going to be here a while
[11:38] <tuga3d> hi all, anyone having trouble with emphaty google talk login?
[11:38] <hardtail> !touch
[11:38] <Jeeves_Moss> tuga3d, sorry, I'm not empathic to your situation
[11:39] <tuga3d> :)
[11:39] <hashworks> tuga3d: Well, I need to relogin quite often
[11:40] <tuga3d> hashworks: i cant login at all
[11:40] <hashworks> What type of security do you use @Google?
[11:40] <hashworks> And are you loggin in with your account pw or app-pw? app-pw aren't working
[11:41] <tuga3d> hashworks:  the normal one, not the 2 steps one
[11:42] <tuga3d> i«ve checked the permitions on the google account settings, and i have permitions set to ubuntu
[11:42] <hashworks> 2-steps should work as well
[11:42] <hashworks> And you're loggin in with your normal acc?
[11:42] <tuga3d> hashworks: tnks, gonna try changing it
[11:43] <tuga3d> hashworks: yep
[11:43] <hashworks> hm
[11:45] <black-core> hallo guys
[11:45] <black-core> i'm newbie
[11:45] <Jeeves_Moss> apparently
[11:45] <black-core> hallo
[11:46] <cfhowlett> black-core, ask your #ubuntu questions
[11:46] <hashworks> The english version uses an "e" black-core
[11:46] <Jeeves_Moss> ahhh, gotta love data center to data center xfers
[11:51] <tuga3d> doesnt work :( now i cant login with my phone :) getting worse
[11:56] <tuga3d> how can i see what error is giving empathy?
[11:58] <Jeeves_Moss> tuga3d, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163726
[11:59] <tuga3d> Jeeves_Moss: thnks
[12:00] <Jeeves_Moss> np
[12:00] <Jeeves_Moss> does anyone have the correct setting for apache to make awstats work?  mine isn't showing the icons
[12:01] <sabbie> einyx: changing the mirror, running apt-get update and changing it back does fix it
[12:06] <tuga3d> Jeeves_Moss: theres only logs from previous conversations, i wanted logs from the application itself (i'm having trouble connecting to google talk)
[12:10] <MagicSpud> hello does anybody know why  my text files are replicating? next to a file I find file~
[12:10] <trijntje> MagicSpud: thats a temporary file that gedit puts there
[12:10] <MagicSpud> trijntje what for?
[12:10] <sacarlson> MagicSpud: it's the backup of the last one before you edited it
[12:10] <MagicSpud> trijntje,  I already have the original one
[12:10] <k1l_> MagicSpud: as backup
[12:11] <k1l_> in case gedit hangs and will accidently remove that file
[12:11] <MagicSpud> but it is not temporary
[12:11] <tuga3d> MagicSpud: are u using gedit?
[12:11] <k1l_> MagicSpud: just don mind that backup file
[12:11] <MagicSpud> since it popped out...it is still there
[12:11] <sacarlson> MagicSpud: it will be rewriten again with the last contents
[12:11] <MagicSpud> but that is a mess
[12:12] <trijntje> MagicSpud: just hide hidden files and folders and you wont see them
[12:12] <MagicSpud> I dont need a backup of every single gedit file
[12:12] <tuga3d> MagicSpud: u can disable it in the preferences
[12:12] <sacarlson> MagicSpud: it won't be when you find you totaly mest up something and can go back one day
[12:12] <tuga3d> true, true
[12:14] <tuga3d> ok, something is wrong with empathy, pidgin is working
[12:14] <trijntje> MagicSpud: by default you cannot see those files, just hit ctrl + H to hide them in the file viewer
[12:14] <MagicSpud> okay okay
[12:15] <MagicSpud> backup files got it
[12:16] <k1l_> one day he will be angry about himself disabling that backup-files :/
[12:16] <trijntje> yep
[12:19] <tuga3d> ok, found a work around
[12:20] <tuga3d> anyone having trouble with empathy logging in with google account do: killall -6 signonpluginprocess
[12:21] <tarelerulz> Why update from 14.04 to 14.10?
[12:21] <k1l_> tarelerulz: its your choice
[12:21] <Bayangan> hi guys, can i make gtk window rounded in bottom
[12:21] <tarelerulz> and pros and cans?
[12:22] <k1l_> tarelerulz: if you dont know stay on LTS (14.04)
[12:22] <Jeeves_Moss> LTS is a good thing on servers.  I learned that one the hard way
[12:22] <tarelerulz> I got netflix working and I was wondering if anything else cool might work now.
[12:24] <Jeeves_Moss> tarelerulz, via a browser?
[12:24] <tarelerulz> Yes , the browser
[12:24] <k1l_> netflix removed that useragent request. so no need to do anything.
[12:24] <Jeeves_Moss> lol, want a challange?  try to get it working with the native client!
[12:25] <tarelerulz> You mean the desktop version of Netflix ?
[12:26] <Jeeves_Moss> yes
[12:26] <Jeeves_Moss> has anyone had a cat that chases it's own tail?
[12:26] <Svetlana> yes, a kitten
[12:26] <tarelerulz> Well, I don't code so that would be a really hard thing to do .
[12:27] <Jeeves_Moss> this one is 4.5 years old.
[12:28] <Jeeves_Moss> argh.  growing the disk on a VM production MySQL server.  nothing like a little stress for your morning.  Why isn't there a command that can be run like windows to expand the disk?
[12:33] <tarelerulz> What video streaming services do you all use in the web browser ?  netflix ,  Hulu  plus ,  Google video service (paid) ect
[12:34] <esmobg> hulu and netflix not work in kde :(
[12:35] <tarelerulz> I use the stock  Ubuntu update as much as it can and I got it working.
[12:35] <esmobg> i  use mint  17 kde
[12:36] <tarelerulz> Well, I think you need  NSS  update
[12:37] <Ratan_> hello
[12:39] <Jeeves_Moss> gnome FTW
[12:44] <logikos> I asked in ##cups but so far no response so I thought I'd also ask here... i setup a HP printer on ubuntu server and I'm trying to figure out how to print to it, i'm using lp -d PRINTERNAME /path/to/somefile.pdf every time it says request id is PRINTERNAME-N (1 file(s))
[12:44] <logikos> sometimes a file prints and sometimes nothing happens at all
[12:44] <logikos> is there any way to see what is going on?
[12:51] <MMukherjee> !info libgeoip
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info libgeoip-devf
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info libgeoip-dev
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info geoip
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info geoip-dev
[12:52] <MMukherjee> !info geoip-database
[12:56] <Pici> !msgthebot | MMukherjee
[13:13] <dracnoc>  /quit
[13:16] <arcsky> i did just apt-get update and upgrade on my ubuntu machines and now i got OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014 ,its not the latest
[13:17] <k1l_> arcsky: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[13:20] <arcsky> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[13:20] <sacarlson> arcsky: I can't upgrade my openssl eather, I guess it's due to that there are dependancies already installed that need that version
[13:21] <k1l_> arcsky: ok. can you pastebin a "apt-cache policy openssl"
[13:22] <arcsky> http://pastebin.com/Jr6xWbwq
[13:22] <sacarlson> what does the ! box in synaptic stand for in openssl as I can't upgrade I don't know what that symbol means as it's gray
[13:23] <k1l_> arcsky: ok, you are aware, that ubuntu doesnt increase the version number but builds the patchs into that?
[13:23] <k1l_> arcsky: see the changelog: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.7/changelog
[13:25] <k1l_> arcsky: so its the basis of version 1.0.1f but there are all security patches included (which makes it ubuntu version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.7) until 15.10.2014
[13:25] <sacarlson> oh the symbol ! means Installed (upgradable)  but it won't let me upgrade it eather
[13:26] <k1l_> sacarlson: just run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in terminal to make sure you got all updates
[13:26] <arcsky> k1l_: thanks
[13:27] <sacarlson> k1| i don't want to upgrade 14.04 to 14.10.  I want lts
[13:28] <sacarlson> but I did apt-get update
[13:28] <k1l_> sacarlson: apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt make it to 14.10. see the explanaition form apt
[13:28] <k1l_> !dist-upgrade
[13:28] <k1l_> !apt-get
[13:28] <sacarlson> ok
[13:29] <k1l_> sacarlson: only apt-get update is not enogh. that will just make a new package list from the update server.please see the apt docs
[13:33] <sacarlson> k1| wow when I do apt-get dist-upgrade it shows a list of about 50 things it will download and install.  could take hours
[13:34] <whitebyte> What will be a good alternative for CXP webViewer for Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:34] <k1l_> sacarlson: that means you did not run proper updates some time now.
[13:34] <sacarlson> 387 mb
[13:34] <sacarlson> ya never liked updates,  to many things get broken but I'll give it a try this time
[13:35] <sacarlson> it's almost beer time so it will have time to upgrade while i'm gone
[13:36] <frew> hey guys, I started the upgrade to utopic via do-release-upgrade and I don't know how to get the console
[13:36] <frew> I thought it started a screen session but it doesn't look like it did
[13:37] <DickGates> frew:what console are you looking for
[13:40] <frew> DickGates: well, I can see that the utopic upgrade script is sitting there waiting for input, and I need to connect to it to (probably) press y
[13:41] <DickGates> frew:did you start the upgrade from the console?
[13:44] <frew> yes
[13:44] <frew> (ssh'd in)
[13:46] <Rudde> How do I find the real full path to the screen script?
[13:46] <Rudde> and any other binary program in linux?
[13:47] <DickGates> Rudde:which binary-name-here
[13:48] <DickGates> Rudde:eg which ls
[13:52] <david38400> my desktop isnt running well so I downloaded the program and want to install. I have used bios to boot first from DVD but it is ignorning and booting as usual. Does anyone know why?
[13:52] <david38400> Any help please?
[13:53] <cable> david38400 ???
[13:53] <cable> what is usuall?
[13:53] <cable> 1. is the cd / dvd bootable?
[13:53] <DickGates> david38400:do you mean you downloaded the ubuntu_14.10 iso?
[13:54] <david38400> DickGates, Yes I downloaded and burnt to DVD
[13:54] <david38400> cable, ??? what do you mean?
[13:55] <DickGates> david38400:what did you use to burn the iso file?
[13:55] <david38400> k3b
[13:55] <david38400> DickGates, K3b
[13:57] <Shunya> Hello
[13:57] <david38400> DickGates, Is k3b not the best to burn an iso???
[13:57] <Falc> I've installed IBM Notes on Ubuntu 14.10, it works fine. The executable is at '/opt/ibm/notes/notes'; if I execute it with that path, it runs. I've created a symlink in my home (/home/ldt/bin/notes). If I call that symlink with it's full path, it runs. However, if I call that symlink with just 'notes', nothing happens! (Yes, /home/ldt/bin is on my path)
[13:57] <riccardo> hi all
[13:58] <Shunya> There is a Key-binding ubuntu Alt+RightClick... I want to change... but couldn't find... is anyone have any idea about it
[13:58] <DickGates> david38400:It should work
[13:58] <riccardo> any chance to have team viewer working on last ubuntu?
[13:58] <david38400> DickGates, That's right, but I have set BIOS to boot first from DVD and it sin't doing it. I find in Ubuntu 14.04 lots of silly things happening laterly
[13:59] <DickGates> david38400: what kind of laptop do you have?
[14:00] <DickGates> david38400:is it uefi capable?
[14:00] <grayshade> why is taking a screenshot so slow? (30+ seconds, i965)
[14:00] <david38400> DickGates, I am using a desktop.   Dont understand what uefi capable means, sorry
[14:09] <carnau> I'm trying to install 14.10. How can I enable the LVM checkbox that appears in the disk partition menu?
[14:09] <carnau> I want to use my crypted LVM as home
[14:14] <zango> people?
[14:14] <zango> humans?
[14:14] <zango> anyone? -_-
[14:14] <motaka3> how can I share a prointer connected to ubuntu device
[14:14] <jack> ...
[14:14] <motaka3> ?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> zango, ask your ubuntu questions
[14:14] <motaka3> I dont see sharing options for printers
[14:15] <zango> technical questions
[14:19] <motaka3> 05:44:37 PM - motaka3: how can I share a prointer connected to ubuntu device
[14:19] <motaka3> 05:44:38 PM - motaka3: ?
[14:19] <jkbbwr> How do I symlink to a file, but when the file is called it is called from its original location
[14:19] <jkbbwr> if that makes sence
[14:19] <reisio> motaka3: synergy
[14:20] <motaka3> reisio: Whats that ?
[14:20] <reisio> jkbbwr: how doesn't an ordinary symlink suffice?
[14:20] <reisio> motaka3: your answer
[14:20] <motaka3> reisio: you mean sudo apt-get install synergy ?
[14:20] <jkbbwr> reisio: seems to screw up
[14:20] <reisio> motaka3: no, I see by your cross-post in #linux you meant printer, not pointer
[14:21] <reisio> jkbbwr: in what way?
[14:21] <reisio> details, man :p
[14:21] <motaka3> no I mean a printer
[14:21] <jkbbwr> reisio: the executable seems to load a relitive file
[14:21] <sacarlson> jkbbwr: you could write a script that would cd to the location and then run the desired file there
[14:21] <motaka3> reisio: So what should I do ?
[14:21] <reisio> jkbbwr: is there some reason I have to draw this information out of you like poison? :p
[14:22] <reisio> motaka3: pick a channel
[14:22] <jkbbwr> sacarlson: cheers
[14:22] <motaka3> what do you mean?
[14:22] <jkbbwr> reisio: I wasnt trying to hold stuff back
[14:22] <motaka3> I stopped in linux
[14:22] <motaka3> I am here now
[14:22] <sacarlson> jkbbwr: if the file itself is a scrypt you can still have it cd to the desired location at run time
[14:23] <jkbbwr> sacarlson: yea did that
[14:24] <reisio> motaka3: you want to share a printer?
[14:24] <motaka3> yes it is connected to ubuntu
[14:24] <motaka3> in tuts i find, i dont see the options they show
[14:24] <reisio> motaka3: https://www.google.com/search?q=help%20ubuntu%20share%20printer
[14:24] <reisio> motaka3: which tuts? Which options?
[14:25] <motaka3> reisio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/PrinterSharing
[14:25] <motaka3> i dont have System -> Administration -> Printing
[14:25] <reisio> motaka3: as you can see, the top of that page says it's out of date
[14:26] <motaka3> then tell me how to do that in 12.04
[14:26] <reisio> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[14:26] <motaka3> reisio: I dont have System -> Administration -> Printing
[14:27] <reisio> motaka3: try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS_printer_sharing#Between_GNU.2FLinux_and_Windows
[14:27] <Mika_> what IRC room is good for my network question? Its not about only Ubuntu. Let say that i have "big" LAN and i have even one router divided my network in two smaller LANs (group A and B). My computer is in group A and with ARP i can see all the ip addresses in this group, but i can't see what is "behind" the router the group B ip's.
[14:28] <AlexPortable> So, which calendar app integrates with the systray in ubuntu?
[14:28] <motaka3> reisio: if such a simple task is so difficult I would connect it to windows
[14:28] <reisio> Mika_: /msg alis list *network*
[14:28] <motaka3> it is stupid
[14:28] <motaka3> I need to right click and say share this
[14:28] <motaka3> what are all these codes for ?
[14:28] <DJones> Mika_: I'd suggest ##networking
[14:28] <reisio> motaka3: well do what you like
[14:29] <motaka3> reisio: I am telling you I need to share a printer, you send me 10 pages of docx? funny
[14:30] <reisio> motaka3: next time I won't send you that, then :)
[14:30] <eviladmin> Mika_: you would have to bridge the networks to be able to see A from B and oposite
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Mika_, ##linux or #ubuntuserver
[14:30] <motaka3> reisio: good, tell me the solution if you know since I have seen all these before
[14:31] <reisio> motaka3: I'm afraid I've rather lost motivation, ask the channel, someone'll help you
[14:33] <sacarlson> in this dist-upgrade I'm now getting a message /etc/issue  modified by you.  do you want to keep or use mainainer version.   I don't recall changing this file so??
[14:33] <AlexPortable> Any way to have some 'mobile hotspot mode' in ubuntu? Which basically prevents it from checking updates, syncronising time and other stuff?
[14:34] <SonikkuAmerica> sacarlson: I'd [ sudo mv /etc/issue /etc/issue.old ] in a different terminal and then install the maintainer's version
[14:34] <sacarlson> oh crap this is going to upgrade my kernel too
[14:34] <SonikkuAmerica> sacarlson: (if you're that concerned)
[14:35] <Falc> Does anyone know why a symlink on my path works when I call it using the full path, but not when I call it using just the filename
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Falc: What's your symlink and how do you point to it?
[14:36] <sacarlson> SonikkuAmerica: I did your suggestion
[14:37] <Falc> symlink: ln -s /opt/ibm/notes/notes /usr/bin/notes
[14:37] <sacarlson> wow now more of the same questions
[14:37] <Falc> I call /usr/bin/notes, it works
[14:37] <Falc> I cd to /usr/bin and then call notes, it works
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> sacarlson: My guess is that not much will change visibly... usually stuff in /etc/issue is version information
[14:37] <Falc> I'm in any other dir and call notes, nothing
[14:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Falc: You have to call the full path! /usr/bin/notes
[14:38] <sacarlson> SonikkuAmerica: ya I glanced at the contents, nothing important
[14:39] <Falc> Why? /usr/bin is on my path, there's a ton of symlinks there already that do work...
[14:39] <AlexPortable> Any way to have some 'mobile hotspot mode' in ubuntu? Which basically prevents it from checking updates, syncronising time and other stuff?
[14:39] <AlexPortable> So, which calendar app integrates with the systray in ubuntu?
[14:39] <moritzs> i've got a horrible rendering performance with XMonad after upgrading to 14.10 e.g. chrome stutters while scrolling. CPU governance is on performance, i've got an i7 4xxx. someone has an advice to track the issue?
[14:40] <sacarlson> even after the upgrade  I don't see the difference in the file, maybe they added a space or something
[14:44] <somsip> Falc: conflict with another executable earlier in $PATH or an alias that has the same name?
[14:45] <Falc> somsip: no, no conflict. Also, I don't even get a 'command not found' error, I just get nothing
[14:45] <sacarlson> moritzs: I saw some discusion of how something changed in one of the new kernel release that not all the cpu cores are being used with 4 available only 2 cores went to 100%. not sure that has anything to do with you thing
[14:47] <moritzs> sacarlson, hmm even 1 core should scroll without issues i think
[14:47] <somsip> Falc: output of 'whereis notes'?
[14:48] <Falc> notes: /usr/bin/notes
[14:48] <somsip> Falc: hmmm
[14:49] <Falc> I'm going to try adding /opt/ibm/notes to my $PATH
[14:50] <sacarlson> ok upgrade complete time to reboot.  if you fail to see min in 4 min then I advise against  disp-upgrade ha ha, see ya in a bit I hope
[14:50] <Falc> aha, that doesn't work either
[14:52] <Falc> so if that executable needs to be looked up on the path, it doesn't work... but it's a java thing and that might have something to do with it
[14:53] <somsip> Falc: instead of a symlink, create a batch file like "PWD=`pwd`; cd /opt/ibm/notes; ./notes; cd $PWD" It seems like it's expecting to find something in the CWD
[14:53] <rwlove_> test
[14:54] <Falc> somsip: I know I can make it work, I'd just really like to find out why the obvious way doesn't work :-)
[14:54] <somsip> Falc: ...it's expecting to find something in CWD perhaps...
[14:56] <jimmy51v_> I'm seeing this whenever I run an apt-get upgrade:  Errors were encountered while processing:   /var/cache/apt/archives/libpam-systemd_204-5ubuntu20.7_amd64.deb  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:58] <think> Good morning thinkers
[14:59] <sacarlson> ok after dist-upgrade it still boots but already see missing stuf in pigin nothing major
[15:02] <waressea1cher2> http://sprunge.us/LMgi those aew strange messages I got in dmesg, are they related to inability to read DVD disk or they are issues with DVD writer itself ?
[15:04] <sacarlson> waressea1cher2: sounds like the disk media in the drive has some bad sectors
[15:05] <sacarlson> waressea1cher2: if it happens on more than 1 or on all disks then maybe the drive lens needs cleaning or it's just getting old
[15:05] <unicorn_> Test
[15:06] <qstrahl> Hey uh ever since I upgraded to Utopic, diodon doesn't seem to ever grab my clipboard (and trying to access the clipboard from vim results in vim telling me there is no clipboard provider)
[15:06] <d1zzYLuLz> does anybody have issues w/ ubuntu and iptables? when i enter a rule and then do iptables -L, the rules are not there
[15:10] <AlexPortable> Using gnome-session-fallback, is it possible to merge the menu bar into the top bar?
[15:10] <AlexPortable> file, edit, view next to the close icons
[15:10] <NJ_sysadmin> Hello networking gurus. Very strange issue on Ubuntu 14.04. Intermittent connectivity loss from host a to host b. Host A can ping host b ok but periodic timeouts when connecting from ssh, telnet, etc. When this happens, traceroutes to the host are all asterix and also times out. Defualt route looks fine Single NIC config, eth0 is on e1000e with latest Inter drivers 3.1.0.2. Any help would be
[15:10] <NJ_sysadmin> greatly appreciated.
[15:14] <unicorn__> Is there a list, mentioning all the software newly implemented into Ubuntu 14.10?
[15:15] <jParkton> view the repos
[15:15] <DJones> unicorn__: There is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes Not sure if thats enough for you
[15:16] <jParkton> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/
[15:19] <AlexPortable> So, which calendar app integrates with the systray in ubuntu?
[15:19] <AlexPortable> Any way to have some 'mobile hotspot mode' in ubuntu? Which basically prevents it from checking updates, syncronising time and other stuff?
[15:19] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: I prefer google calender that integrates with my phone
[15:20] <AlexPortable> does google calendar requires internet?
[15:20] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: as well as integrates with all your google+ circle of people
[15:20] <AlexPortable> Well I don't always have internet on my machine
[15:20] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: on my phone it only requires internet to sync
[15:20] <unicorn__> DJones: I know this page, I mean every single newly introduced package, for example r-bioc-snpstats
[15:20] <jParkton> kinda dumb trying to run a OS with no internet connectivity
[15:20] <AlexPortable> yeah well I'm on a mobile connection on my lapto
[15:20] <cable> AlexPortable you don't have to have always internet
[15:21] <jParkton> unicorn__: probably not
[15:21] <AlexPortable> well i prefer an offline solution
[15:21] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: my phone is the real calender and time keeper.  the computer just makes it easy to update it and sync to all that need it
[15:21] <AlexPortable> I don't want to miss an appointment because there is no coverage
[15:22] <jParkton> maybe a better brain? My google cal only keeps track of events I put in there
[15:22] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: you won't if you update it from your phone as I said the phone doesn't need internet
[15:22] <AlexPortable> huh
[15:23] <AlexPortable> No I mean
[15:23] <AlexPortable> on desktop you can add it offline right?
[15:23] <cable> also on your phone
[15:23] <cable> and it will sync later on your desktop as well
[15:23] <cable> if you use google calender
[15:24] <cable> thats the power of sync.
[15:24] <jParkton> AlexPortable: there is NO calendar in the world you can add events OFFLINE and have it sync online
[15:24] <jParkton> thats just dumb
[15:25] <sacarlson> AlexPortable: aparently you can update and use google calender offline.  I've never tried it https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/1340696?hl=en
[15:25] <tgm4883> lol
[15:25] <cable> jParkton huh?
[15:25] <AlexPortable> jParkton: where exactly did I said sync online?
[15:25] <jParkton> and if this os for strictly offline access why even download a calendar? Just click the time in the sys tray and add an event to the already shipped calendar
[15:25] <sacarlson> jParkton: I beg to differ, you can update it offline until you sync when it is online
[15:26]  * tgm4883 reads backlog
[15:26] <jParkton> sacarlson: that makes zero sense
[15:26] <unicorn__> Or is there a list showing all packages being updated (x.y.z) since Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:26] <tgm4883> jParkton: no it really doesn't
[15:26] <jParkton> UPDATE denote some updating
[15:26] <sacarlson> jParkton: some people don't need to sync if they have only one device
[15:26] <jParkton> at least in English UPDATE means it is synching to something
[15:27] <AlexPortable> jParkton: how do I add an event?
[15:27] <tgm4883> jParkton: I can easily update the calendar on my phone without it being connected to the internet. The next time I connect to the internet, it syncs the calendar to the rest of my devices
[15:27] <jParkton> sacarlson: then why talk about google calendar / ubuntu ystem calendar for 15 minutes if all he needs is an offline notebook
[15:28] <jParkton> tgm4883: so the FUNCTION of the calendar is to keep events updated somehow?
[15:28] <jParkton> weird
[15:28] <jParkton> almost like that is exactly what a calendar does and is intended to do
[15:28] <sacarlson> jParkton: it's just another option, wether he wants to use notebook or.... why not have options as to what you use for a calender
[15:28] <amministratore> ciao
[15:28] <amministratore> !list
[15:29] <tgm4883> jParkton: don't be an arse, I was simply showing that you could update a calendar without internet access
[15:29] <bioman> Hello
[15:29] <jParkton> yes im an ass
[15:29] <jParkton> because you wanbt to be right and have the last word
[15:29] <jParkton> I see what you did thar
[15:29] <bioman> I'm an arch user but there nobody cares about compiz
[15:29] <bioman> I use compiz 0.9.12
[15:29] <bioman> well, let's say 0.9.x
[15:30] <tgm4883> jParkton: whatever helps you sleep at night
[15:30] <AlexPortable> any way I can merge an gnome indicator applet next to the close and minimize icons?
[15:30] <jParkton>  /ignore helps me
[15:30] <jParkton> and poof you're gone
[15:30] <jParkton> AlexPortable: gnome indicator?
[15:30] <AlexPortable> jParkton: so how do I add something to the built-in calendar? (if there is any)
[15:31] <AlexPortable> yes
[15:31]  * tgm4883 cries because jParkton can't hear me anymore
[15:31] <bioman> I have a big problem when I set the cube to be a cylender : I have only the top and the bottom that are circles, the rest is still a cube. Any ideas please ?
[15:31] <jParkton> AlexPortable: in Kubuntu click the time current, click date, add event in Kontact
[15:31] <AlexPortable> if you install 'indicator-applet-appmenu', it will put the file, edit, and so on menu in the top menu bar
[15:31] <sacarlson> tgm4883: there can be but one calender in the world and that's final.... ha ha just kiding
[15:31] <jParkton> idk in Ubuntu might not be that cool yet
[15:31] <AlexPortable> well i use ubuntu with gnome fallback
[15:31] <AlexPortable> not working
[15:31] <jParkton> sacarlson: lol
[15:32] <tgm4883> sacarlson: of course, and you can only use calendars when you have internet access. There is no other way!
[15:32] <jParkton> bioman: because um that is a cylinder
[15:32] <sacarlson> tgm4883: ya imposible ha ha
[15:34] <bioman> jkerning: I beg your pardon ? I don't see what you mean :/
[15:34] <abi_> exit
[15:35] <tgm4883> bioman: we don't support arch here
[15:35] <tgm4883> bioman: have you tried #compiz
[15:36] <bioman> tgm4883: I don't ask for arch support, but for compiz support
[15:36] <bioman> tgm4883: they are all dead
[15:36] <tgm4883> bioman: yea, but on the arch platform. We don't know what the arch people did to compiz, if they added any patches, etc, so it's pretty difficult for us to support it on their platform
[15:37] <bioman> tgm4883: I have compiled an arch package : compiz-ubuntu
[15:37] <bioman> tgm4883: we use ubuntu sources
[15:38] <tgm4883> bioman: and the rest of the graphics stack?
[15:39] <tgm4883> bioman: if there is nobody helping you in either the arch or compiz IRC channels, your next stop should be either their forums and/or mailing lists, not the ubuntu support channel
[15:39] <bioman> tgm4883: Nvidia GT555M (the same issue with GTX680), driver 343.22 (but same issue with other versions)
[15:39] <bioman> tgm4883: sorry
[15:40] <tgm4883> bioman: my question was actually regarding if you build the entire stack, not what it is
[15:41] <NJ_sysadmin> Any Ubuntu networking gurus Very strange issue on Ubuntu 14.04. Intermittent connectivity loss from host a to host b. Host A can ping host b ok but periodic timeouts when connecting from ssh, telnet, etc. When this happens, traceroutes to the host are all asterix and also times out. Default route looks fine Single NIC config, eth0 is on e1000e with latest Intel drivers 3.1.0.2. Any help would
[15:41] <NJ_sysadmin> be greatly appreciated.
[15:41] <bioman> tgm4883: I'm sorry, I feel like I bother you
[15:41] <bioman> tgm4883: gonna ask in #compiz. thanks
[15:42] <ObrienDave> everybody bothers tgm4883 ;P
[15:42] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, is it wireless
[15:42] <gansteed> how can I read the docs installed by using `sudo apt-get install python3-docs`?
[15:42] <Pici> tgm4883: well handled :)
[15:43] <waressea1cher2> sacarlson: I burned 3 different live dvd disks and booted them and in all of them similar error
[15:43] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: No it's wired
[15:43] <tgm4883> Pici: thanks
[15:43] <AlexPortable> any way how I can merge the menu bar into the title bar?
[15:43] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, are the two machines on the same lan?
[15:44] <waressea1cher2> sacarlson: its just I bought that dvd drive 3.5 years ago and used it for about month and then it was laying around for more than 3 years without anyone touching it
[15:44] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: yes same subnet.
[15:44] <drmagoo> NJ_sysadmin: static or dhcp assigned addresses ?
[15:45] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, do you use dhcp, or network manager, or do you assign addresses by hand?
[15:45] <squinty> waressea1cher2:  higher burn speeds can introduce burn errors.  suggest you try burning at a lower speed such as 4X
[15:45] <sacarlson> waressea1cher2: with time comes dirt on lens, but a few sector error may be ok
[15:51] <waressea1cher2> I connected phone with android 4.2.2 and set it as "Camera (PTP)" device, then run programm "Cheese" it supposed to work with webcameras, but it doesn't see my phone as camera, what is the right way to use android phone as webcamera ?
[15:53] <AlexPortable> waressea1cher2: camera (ptp) is to let the OS see the device you attached as a digital camera
[15:53] <AlexPortable> which means it will open shotwell or similar
[15:53] <AlexPortable> because when you attach a camera, you are likely to want to import / move pictures you made to your pc
[15:56] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: AlexPortable is correct. Probably the only way you are going to get that to work is to get an android app that exposes the camera as a webcam. You can then connect to the phone over the network. I'm unaware of an app that lets you plug the phone into the computer and use it as a webcam directly
[15:56] <pr0m3t30> hi
[15:57] <NJ_sysadmin> Only one NIC enabled and static IP on eth0 set in /etc/network/interfaces We're not using network manager
[15:58] <AlexPortable> How can I let my system shutdown?
[15:58] <AlexPortable> it hangs at [kvm] disabling hardware virtualisation
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now      does it turn off ok?
[15:59] <AlexPortable> no
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: its a single line, so no need to pastebin
[16:01] <AlexPortable> it shows errors now
[16:01] <AlexPortable> from shutting down
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: hard power off the system then, is all I cansuggest
[16:02] <tgm4883> what errors?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: does it happen to all guest OSes? in all architectures?
[16:04] <ybon> Anyone know how to ungroup app windows on the windows switcher? I don't find the tweak anymore on Compiz/Ubuntu/Unity tweaks since on Utopic
[16:05] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: which guest os? you mean virtualbox?
[16:05] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: also hard power off is what I do every evening, but i don't think this is good for the hdd
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: no, the guest OS is Ubuntu or Windows or Fedora etc etc etc
[16:05] <AlexPortable> I only run 1 os
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: is it 64bit?
[16:06] <jParkton> then why the kvm?
[16:06] <AlexPortable> jParkton: i dont have kvm installed on my system. only virtualbox
[16:06] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: ahhh, i see
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: have you asked in #vbox ?
[16:06] <AlexPortable> Why would shutting down a system has to do anything with vbox?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: because the system is running in virtualbox, no?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:07] <AlexPortable> but why not firefox?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> wait
[16:07] <AlexPortable> the system isn't running in virtualbox
[16:07] <jParkton> [09:58] <AlexPortable> it hangs at [kvm] disabling hardware virtualisation
[16:07] <AlexPortable> i have virtualbox installed on the system
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: then the hardware is being presented to the virtualsystem using virtualbox, causing the guest to have issues?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> i dont think vbox uses kvm
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: or is it the host having issues?
[16:07] <AlexPortable> host
[16:08] <jParkton> I thought kvm was a kubuntu package
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: OK, What OS is the host?
[16:08] <AlexPortable> ubuntu 14.04
[16:08] <jParkton> guess no its fro the kernel not the kubuntu lol
[16:08] <hulio> how come i can't install teamviewer in ubuntu ?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: ok, I'd ask in #vbox it sounds like something in vbox is not shuting down gracefully
[16:09] <hulio> i can't seem to get it installed ata ll
[16:09] <hulio> i keep saying that it missing a lib
[16:09] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: well i haven't turned on virtualbox today
[16:09] <tgm4883> hulio: what lib?
[16:09] <AlexPortable> when using shutdown -h 0 i get errors, and when i press enter I get a new error line
[16:09] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/2Ihlxd.png
[16:09] <tgm4883> or rather
[16:09] <tgm4883> !details | hulio
[16:09] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/GlWtvS.png
[16:10] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/m5jCOB.png
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: does the system have a make and model?
[16:10] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/Em0Gnw.png
[16:10] <jParkton> hulio: after it fails to install run 'sudo apt-get install -f' in terminal
[16:10] <White_Cat> hi
[16:10] <jParkton> that should get you where you need
[16:10] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: Only one NIC enabled and static IP on eth0 set in /etc/network/interfaces We're not using network manager
[16:10] <White_Cat> I just created a user using "sudo useradd -d /home/odoo -m odoo_user"
[16:11] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/XPnrsY.png
[16:11] <White_Cat> when I login with this user I cannot access /home/odoo
[16:11] <jParkton> White_Cat: 'ls -la /home/odoo'
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: does the system have a make and model?
[16:12] <tgm4883> White_Cat: 'ls -la /home'
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: what user did you log in with?
[16:12] <compdoc> NJ_sysadmin, can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces?  If everything else is working normally, then either youre using an ip address already in use, or have a bad nic, cable, or port on the switch
[16:12] <hulio> jParkton, got it
[16:12] <jParkton> ;)
[16:13] <tgm4883> White_Cat: also, that command appears to be missing the username
[16:13] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/sRZFpm.png
[16:13] <AlexPortable>  ActionParsnip: acer aspire 9300
[16:13] <hulio> jParkton, how to remove a teamviewer after install?
[16:13] <hulio> jParkton, i want to install x64 bit version of it
[16:13] <jParkton> hulio: the same way you installed it
[16:13] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/dKiL9w.png
[16:13] <hulio> jParkton, what?
[16:13] <hulio> i want to remove teamviewer
[16:13] <hulio> what is the command?
[16:13] <AlexPortable> hulio: how did you install it?
[16:14] <jParkton> how did you install it?
[16:14] <hulio> i do :  sudo dpkg -i teamviewer....deb
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/537385
[16:14] <tgm4883> nm
[16:14] <jParkton> terminal, software center, build from source etc etc
[16:14] <jParkton> oh
[16:14] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: how to solve?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: not sure, read the bug......
[16:14] <jParkton> hulio: sudo dpkg --remove package
[16:14] <hulio> jParkton, so a do:  sudo dpkg -u ?
[16:14] <tgm4883> hulio: you would just "sudo apt-get remove teamviewer" to uninstall it
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: thats why I posted the link......
[16:15] <hulio> ok i'll trive
[16:15] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: bug says incomplete > expired
[16:15] <tgm4883> provided that teamviewer is the name of the package
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: do you have the latest BIOS?
[16:15] <hulio> cool thanks. it works
[16:15] <jParkton> np
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: may help too http://www.ahfx.net/weblog/160
[16:17] <White_Cat> ls -la /home/odoo -> drwxr-xr-x 3 odoo_user odoo_user 4096 Oct 27 17:16 .
[16:18] <hulio> jParkton, i love nero 4 for linux
[16:18] <hulio> jParkton, very native software
[16:18] <White_Cat> ls -la /home -> drwxr-xr-x  3 root      root      4096 Oct 27 17:13 .
[16:18] <White_Cat> ActionParsnip I used the commands with root
[16:18] <White_Cat> I attempted to access the folder using the created username
[16:19] <White_Cat> which cannot get there
[16:20] <jParkton> hulio: I dont see how that applies to anything but good to hear
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: then you will need to chown the folder back to its rightful owner
[16:20] <jParkton> White_Cat: also wrong command
[16:20] <White_Cat> I am unsure how to do that
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: if you avoid using root so very freely you will have significantly fewer issues
[16:20] <White_Cat> I am not using it freely
[16:20] <Skutov> Does anyone here know of a serial terminal client that will show the hex and the characters for recieved data at the same time?
[16:20] <White_Cat> it is what I start with
[16:20] <White_Cat> this is why i am creating a new account
[16:20] <White_Cat> so as not to use root
[16:21] <jParkton> White_Cat: you need to ls -la the /home/odoo or whatever that user was
[16:21] <jParkton> not /home
[16:21] <NJ_sysadmin> compdoc: Sorry didn't pastebin.
[16:21] <jParkton> that is roots and NO DO NOT CHOWN that
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: sudo chown -R odoo_user:odoo_user /home/odoo         let the command run, you will see a warning but this is fine.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> d
[16:21] <jParkton> I am obviously being ignored so I will stop
[16:21] <White_Cat> I imagine I run that under root?
[16:21] <White_Cat> jParkton I am not ignoring you
[16:22] <cuppy> White_Cat, no root. just sudo
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: or any user with sudo access, yes
[16:22] <White_Cat> yes thats what i mean
[16:22] <White_Cat> odoo_user doesn't need to have sudo access
[16:23] <op_test221> i need to start dnscrypt-proxy at boot time, does anybody know what is the best way.. this is the command i need to run: dnscrypt-proxy --daemonize --user=dnscrypt
[16:23] <White_Cat> but I want to create a second username that has sudo access, someone not root
[16:23] <White_Cat> how can I do that?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> White_Cat: add the user to the sudo group, job done
[16:24] <cuppy> White_Cat, you can even do that using the System Prefs GUI
[16:24] <sacarlson> Skutov: nope but long ago I wrote one back in like 1998 long since lost only needed one time.
[16:25] <Skutov> sacarlson, dammit... guess I'll have to do the same thing then...
[16:26] <sacarlson> Skutov: there are hex editors that will display hex files so if you can get the term data saved you can display it later
[16:26] <op_test221> i am thinking of adding it to /etc/rc.local, but i am afraid of editing that file that may get rewritten next time i update ubunut
[16:27] <sacarlson> Skutov: does it have to be displayed in realtime?
[16:27] <hulio> jParkton, any good app for linux you have know or like ?
[16:27] <Skutov> sacarlson, Ideally, otherwise I'd be having to reload files a lot.
[16:27] <cuppy> I'm kinda surprised that I can't upgrade from 12.04 because my GPU is "old"
[16:28] <sacarlson> Skutov: maybe edit a version of tail then to display it while it come out
[16:28] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: no. i downgraded to driver 173, problem is stil lthere
[16:28] <waressea1cher2> AlexPortable: right, its just I have regular phone motorola and when I plug it over USB it gives me options "charge" or "webcam" or "storage" so I mistakenly assumed at first I could do the same with android phone
[16:28] <AlexPortable> waressea1cher2: well you can with an app
[16:28] <jParkton> hulio: the only thing I really install after I install the OS is brackets after that im all set
[16:29] <sacarlson> Skutov: but be nice to have a colum to the right that has the output in hex and the term ascii on the left would be better so modify some term
[16:29] <White_Cat> cuppy I lack gui
[16:29] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: do i really have to update my bios?
[16:30] <Skutov> I might have found one, just need to work out how to run it.
[16:30] <Skutov> sacarlson, http://www.rolf-schroedter.de/moni/#download
[16:31] <acerspyroThe2nd> Last night, I updated from 14.04 to 14.10 and the video drivers failed (using the proprietary fglrx drivers). I figured to install them back, but now everything that tries to use openGL returns an X protocol error.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: did you try the boot option in the last link I gave?
[16:31] <acerspyroThe2nd> Did I forget anything?
[16:32] <sacarlson> Skutov: ya that's perfect, assuming you want to use it for serial monitor
[16:32] <Skutov> sacarlson, Will be fine, just need to work out how to install/run it.
[16:32] <sacarlson> Skutov: that's just what I needed back in 1998
[16:33] <sacarlson> Skutov: looks way nicer than what I made
[16:33] <acerspyro> Thar :D
[16:35] <waressea1cher2> I have two sound cards: "HDA Intel" and "Yamaha DS-1" I want that yamaha to be default, where to set it as default ?
[16:36] <waressea1cher2> with alsactl ?
[16:36] <jParkton> try alsamixer
[16:37] <zz_adgtl> guys iptables -L shows this https://gist.github.com/anildigital/1f8c3466273595108be4  I am able to curl localhost:80  but not able to access port 80 from external ip
[16:37] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: system won't turn on now
[16:38] <jParkton> ru roh
[16:38] <acerspyro> > i p tables
[16:38] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: I would try pavucontrol
[16:38] <acerspyro> That's gotta hurt.
[16:38] <waressea1cher2> jParkton: with alsamixer I can set volume
[16:38] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: didnt try it yet. Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/disknumber here does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: run an fsck on your drive in liveCD, also may want to test RAM using Memtest
[16:40] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: one bad sector
[16:40] <genii> Hopefully it's not in the MBR
[16:40] <acerspyro> I can't install packages using the HTTP port, can I?
[16:41] <jParkton> lolwut
[16:41] <jParkton> waressea1cher2: your nick is asinine your help stops here
[16:41] <jParkton> zzz_Ridley: what is the IP?
[16:41] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: is this regular ubuntu?
[16:43] <AlexPortable> Kvm: exiting hardware virtualidation. Synchronidin scsi cache. Stopping disks
[16:44] <Putti> Hi, after installing 14.10 on my samsung np535u3c laptop it doesn't  anymore turn the display on after grub boot (it works only sometimes). Here is my boot.log: http://paste2.org/Jn7mfJY8 . I haven't tried yet installing proprietary amd graphics driver, because then for example I cannot adjust brightness.
[16:44] <waressea1cher2> jParkton: what is asinine ?
[16:44] <waressea1cher2> tgm4883: typical ubuntu
[16:45] <tgm4883> waressea1cher2: does this help?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/398030/change-default-sound-device
[16:46] <Leonidasxxx> hi to join other canal, what command is?
[16:46] <reisio> Leonidasxxx: /join #otherchannel
[16:46] <acerspyro> Leonidasxxx: french?
[16:46] <nusr> anyone know when ubuntu phone is coming out?
[16:46] <shibboleth> https://pidgin.im/news/security/ <--- Who is the package maintainer for Pidgin?
[16:46] <popey> nusr: soon
[16:46] <Leonidasxxx> no spanish
[16:47] <shibboleth> https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3055 <--- Debian fixed this days ago
[16:47] <nusr> popey: can't wait.
[16:47] <Leonidasxxx> not have any help up of the chat
[16:47] <popey> nusr: ☻
[16:47] <tgm4883> shibboleth: that would appear to be "ubuntu developers"
[16:47] <shibboleth> tgm4883: so canonical?
[16:47] <tgm4883> shibboleth: no
[16:47] <tgm4883> shibboleth: well, maybe
[16:47] <tgm4883> sec
[16:47] <brainwash> shibboleth: please file a report on launchpad
[16:48] <brainwash> and link all the needed information
[16:48] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: nope your link didnt work. How can i fix it
[16:48] <tgm4883> shibboleth: yea, what brainwash said
[16:49] <shibboleth> Do I need a valid mail address to file the report?
[16:49] <richard_> quit
[16:49] <nusr> popey: if it came down to you...would you choose ubuntu phone or firefoxOS phone
[16:49] <popey> nusr: i work on ubuntu phone... so...
[16:49] <popey> nusr: but I own a firefox phone too..
[16:49] <nusr> popey: cool
[16:49] <tgm4883> popey: so windows phone then?
[16:49] <acerspyro> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249841
[16:49] <acerspyro> Followed these instructions, didn't help much.
[16:49] <brainwash> shibboleth: you need a launchpad account and some email address to create one
[16:50] <shibboleth> I do not use email
[16:50] <acerspyro> No more Unity desktop, tried to start LXDE and typed glxinfo and it gave me an X protocol error.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: fix what?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> shibboleth: really?
[16:50] <Leonidasxxx> a question... i have a flash usb with any format? I can format? or other similar?
[16:50] <acerspyro> Leonidasxxx: any format
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Leonidasxxx: yes, gparted can remove the partiion(s) and format it as you desire
[16:51] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: my computer
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> yes 0 bytes have
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> but i start gparted
[16:51] <shibboleth> If the USPS all of a sudden came out with a new rule that said that you may not seal your envelopes; would you still use their service?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: is it booting ok now?
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> and not see my usb...
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Leonidasxxx: does gparted show it ?
[16:51] <Leonidasxxx> no
[16:52] <acerspyro> Hm
[16:52] <AlexPortable> ActionParsnip: yes but not shutting down
[16:52] <Leonidasxxx> but it is i asked i need some "help"
[16:52] <BluesKaj> waressea1cher2, install pavutcontrol, it has the audio output option settings you need
[16:52] <acerspyro> The "Details" panel shows "Graphics  VESA: PARK"
[16:52] <BluesKaj> waressea1cher2, correction pavucontrol
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> AlexPortable: id try the bios update, may help
[16:53] <Leonidasxxx> if i may format this pen i celebrate this moment
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Leonidasxxx: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l     do you see the device?
[16:53] <acerspyro> *tries to format pencil*
[16:53] <Leonidasxxx> i try it
[16:53] <Leonidasxxx> now i tell
[16:53] <shibboleth> Anyone want to file the bug report to launchpad using the two links I provided?
[16:53] <OerHeks> shibboleth, i filed a bugreport, maybe you can confirm this, so it speeds up? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/1386311
[16:54] <acerspyro> :/ my questions went underground.
[16:54] <shibboleth> OerHeks: page not found
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: did it work ok in Trusty?
[16:55] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: 14.04?
[16:55] <Leonidasxxx> no
[16:55] <acerspyro> Yep
[16:55] <OerHeks> hmm i selected security , maybe that is why you cannot see it
[16:55] <Leonidasxxx> i dont see
[16:55] <acerspyro> Installed the ATI bundle from their website
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: any issues at all?
[16:55] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: Not previously
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: in trusty
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: then why did you fix your system if it wasnt broken?
[16:56] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: Updated
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: but why?
[16:56] <acerspyro> I want bleeding-edge stuff
[16:56] <acerspyro> Not interested in stability.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: why? If the system was without issue. What were you going to gain?
[16:56] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: Newer packages, newer kernel
[16:57] <acerspyro> No need to add tons of PPAs to get the latest packages.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: but the system was running ok. What would the new kernel give you ?
[16:57] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: idc about the kernel
[16:57] <acerspyro> But I consider Blender 2.6 to be outdated
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: does blender 2.6 do what you need to do with blender?
[16:57] <acerspyro> No
[16:58] <acerspyro> No walk cam, I can't live without walk cam :P
[16:58] <acerspyro> And GCC is outdated
[16:58] <shibboleth> walk cam?
[16:58] <acerspyro> There is a huge difference between GCC 4.8 and GCC 4.9
[16:58] <acerspyro> shibboleth: Shift + F in Blender 2.7
[16:59] <tgm4883> acerspyro: FWIW, there is a PPA for blender
[16:59] <acerspyro> tgm4883: I want it in the repos
[16:59] <OerHeks> !info gcc
[16:59] <OerHeks> grinn
[16:59] <tgm4883> acerspyro: then you don't understand repos and/or PPAs
[16:59] <acerspyro> tgm4883: I don't want to have to use a PPA to update a package.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: Id suggest a clean install, fewer issues
[17:00] <acerspyro> Hrm
[17:00] <tgm4883> acerspyro: I might have missed something then, how did you get a newer build of blender?
[17:00] <acerspyro> tgm4883: Arch linux
[17:00] <tgm4883> acerspyro: oh
[17:00] <OerHeks> !info blender
[17:00] <tgm4883> acerspyro: then why are you looking for support here?
[17:01]  * OerHeks facepalms
[17:01] <acerspyro> tgm4883: Because I want help updating Ubuntu
[17:01] <Pici> Ubuntu is not a rolling release.
[17:01] <acerspyro> I used to use Arch, but it is far from automatic and requires me to constantly manage it in order to keep it running.
[17:01] <acerspyro> Pici: It isn't, all I want is 14.10
[17:01] <reisio> acerspyro: no it doesn't
[17:02] <reisio> nobody forces you to update at any particular moment in time
[17:02] <irth> "but it is far from automatic"
[17:02] <acerspyro> .-.
[17:02] <rba1988> test
[17:02] <irth> actually that belongs to arch's pros
[17:02] <EriC^^> just add pacman -Syu as a cronjob and call it a lifetime
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> !test | rba1988
[17:03] <acerspyro> EriC^^: Not that kind of managing
[17:03] <acerspyro> I want to change a little setting? need to figure it out, I am not constantly online.
[17:03] <irth> (pros and cons. "pros" "cons" are shortcuts, right? or how you call it. what are "full version" of those words?)
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: I'd do a clean install of Utopic if you want to use it. If you want a rock solid OS that works with 5 years support instead of 9 months, then use Trusty
[17:04] <acerspyro> ActionParsnip: So I need to clean my hard drive and re-install every 6 months?
[17:04] <rba1988> exit
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: no, thats the point
[17:05] <ironman> bbddevs
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: you can use the LTS and not have to upgrade for 5 years
[17:05] <acerspyro> ?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: I'm still on Precise, it's supported til April 2017 which is even past when Utopic is dead
[17:05] <acerspyro> And stay with 5 years old packages?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: you dont have to upgrade, you are looking at the version numbers too much instead of what the OS actually does for you
[17:05] <elsieboy> hi all! just a quick question. I want to put some commands that execute every time I log in in a file. I know that this goes in a script in my home directory. But I'm just confused about which one? .bash_profile, .bashrc, etc .... what's the difference?
[17:06] <acerspyro> So trusty will eventually update to Blender 2.7?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: again, it doesnt matter. If there are significant reasons to upgrade a package then the updates will happen. The LTS versions are still reviewed and updates do happen
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> acerspyro: it may do so if there are issues people are having which are resolved in the new version
[17:06] <OerHeks> acerspyro, yes, 2.7.0a
[17:06] <OerHeks> !info blender
[17:07] <OerHeks> !info blender trusty
[17:07] <alonz> hey i have got a problem, - [Mon Oct 27 17:56:54.632490 2014] [:error] [pid 8501] [client 192.168.1.181:50308] PHP Warning:  file_exists() expects parameter 1 to be a valid path, string given in /var/www/html/index.php on line 3308, referer: http://192.168.1.202/?step=2&language=pl
[17:07] <alonz> at older version i didn't had anything like this
[17:08] <alonz> what to do to configure good this server, it cant to extract tar.gz by using html interface
[17:08] <pgnome> hello, I am currently using 14.04, I believe.... was wondering if I should upgrade to 14.10?
[17:08] <alonz> at older version of ubuntu everything works well
[17:09] <yossarianuk> hi -my desktop has a nvidia card and ingratiated intel (Ivybridge) GPU can I have a separate xserver on both GPU's at the same time ?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: sudo do-release-upgrade      note that 14.10 is only supported 9 months, 14.04 is LTS and supported til April 2019
[17:09] <pgnome> how to do it?   apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: i gave the command,.......
[17:10] <pgnome> ActionParsnip,  really?
[17:10] <yossarianuk> if it makes a difference I use the binary nvidia driver (nvidia-prime)
[17:10] <pgnome> okay
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: yes really
[17:11] <pgnome> I have a nvidia card, though.... which do I do first?
[17:11] <pgnome> release upgrade?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> [17:08] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:11] <pgnome> does anyone have a nvidia card here?   the newest drivers are 340 and 343
[17:11] <pgnome> -binary
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current trusty
[17:12] <yossarianuk> ubuntu doesn;t have the latest stable nvidia driver by default (my biggest peeve with ubunt..)
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: mine are on 304
[17:13] <yossarianuk> either use a PPA (and risk also upgrading xorg/breaking your system) or install manually from nvidia.com (that is what I do.)
[17:13] <pgnome> yossarianuk,  I often use nvidia.com, too
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> I use the open driver more these days, works well
[17:15] <yossarianuk> pgnome: would be much easier if nvidia-latest package was always the latest...
[17:15] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: not for gaming.
[17:15] <OerHeks> nvidia 331 is also availabe in restricted drivers
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I dont game. I think its a waste of time
[17:16] <Car-Seller> http://www.desura.com/games/dragonfly-racer Buy this game for only £1.99
[17:17] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: that really involves anything that actually fully uses you're GPU - the nouveau reduces openGL speed by about 70/80%
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: also none of my systems game very well
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: nouveau runs flash just dandy.
[17:18] <srj55> I have VM workstation on a windows laptop with 2 Windows server VMs and a ubuntu server vm.  How can I make the hostname in the ubuntu server visible to the other VMs and my laptop?  I set /etc/hosts  --> 192.168.65.144 proxy   and also set hostname to proxy.  I also went into /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and set -> send host-name "proxy";.  what am i doing wrong?
[17:18] <yossarianuk> I do understand the benefits of using free drivers...
[17:18] <Lunario> when I try to send a mail in ubuntu with "mail -s "subject me@xx, why is the mail not sent? the program just does nothing
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: who said you didnt...?
[17:18] <yossarianuk> but seems silly to spend money on a card then underclock it by 80% by not using the binary driver...
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: because I dont need to do anything once my OS is installed to get a decent desktop experience
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: so why bother
[17:19] <pgnome> yossarianuk, do you recommend 343?
[17:19] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: also only binary one has opengl 4.x support...
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I dont use opengl though
[17:19] <rba1988> quit
[17:19] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: what I mean is using the free driver does unclock your card (for any gl task) by about 80%
[17:19] <pgnome> is short-lived branch ver.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I dont use opengl
[17:20] <pgnome> is the free driver good for newer cards now?
[17:20] <pgnome> I have a maxwell card
[17:20] <yossarianuk> pgnome: i am using 343.22
[17:20] <pgnome> the oss driver wasn't too good for maxwell when I got my card
[17:20] <nusr> i just edited my /etc/apt/sources.list and when i tried to update i get this message:Malformed line 59 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> nusr: can you pastebin your file please
[17:20] <pgnome> yossarianuk, any issues?
[17:20] <ApplesInArrays> Just set up a VPS and I'm not having any luck getting mod-rewrite to work. Any help? Here are the steps I took and the error: http://paste.ee/p/fLd2L
[17:20] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: you do if you have desktop effects enabled.
[17:21] <pgnome> yossarianuk, my card is a gtx 750
[17:21] <yossarianuk> pgnome: none I have found
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I use Openbox, no effects. I dont even run a DE
[17:21] <pgnome> yossarianuk, sounds good
[17:21] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: ok in your case you do not.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I know, thats why I use the open driver
[17:21] <pgnome> <use gnome - obviously? :)
[17:22] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: but for someone who has paid money on a card really they need to use the binary to make use of it - otherwise you may as well have gone with intel
[17:23] <pgnome> yossarianuk, what ver. of release do you use?
[17:23] <pgnome> I wonder if I should upgrade 14.04 to 14.10
[17:23] <pgnome> most packages are at 14.04
[17:23] <yossarianuk> << 14.10 for home
[17:23] <LurgidBee> Hello, I'm looking to autolink my cs50.h library so that I don't have to manually link it every time I compile. For example I have to do "gcc hello.c -lcs50 -o hello" instead of just "make".  I have already followed the instructions at https://manual.cs50.net/library/#installation and I can't seem to get it to auto link the library. I'm trying to avoid using the cs50 appliance.
[17:23] <sacarlson> srj55: I don't fully understand your setup but can't you just have all the vm set to bridge network mode, have them all get ip from the same dhcp server?  then they should all talk to each other.  if you want to add names then that's another step maybe with bind9
[17:23] <pgnome> although firefox is at 33.0
[17:23] <yossarianuk> << 14.04 for work
[17:23] <compdoc> 14.10 wont be around very long
[17:24] <yossarianuk> no but one of the reason ubuntu+debian are great is usually upgrading to next version is easy and fairly trouble free
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> pgnome: if 14.04 is working ok, stick with it
[17:24] <pgnome> I like to be at the latest , not necessarily bleeding edge...sometimes, some packages need a certain ver. of gcc?
[17:24] <yossarianuk> there isn't much difference between 14.04->14.10 (same for kubuntu also)
[17:24] <pgnome> for e.g.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: go check the freenode answers section. Lots of users upgrading and having issues
[17:24] <pgnome> ok
[17:25] <pgnome> so, I'll just upgrade nvidia driver for now?
[17:25] <pgnome> i can upgrade release later?
[17:25] <yossarianuk> ActionParsnip: ok usually it is fine - and the track record is better than most other distros..
[17:25] <sacarlson> LurgidBee: maybe just write your own script to compile and link it then
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> yossarianuk: I always clean install. When 16.04 is out, new HDD and a clean install
[17:26] <srj55> sacarlson:  the vm's all use NAT to share host's IP address.  I'm not sure if the problem is with the VM config, or just the way my ubuntu box is setup.  the windows machines all work:  I can connect using the hostname to web servers running on those VMs, so I'm lead to believe the isssue is with ubuntu hostname not being "propogated" to the other machines?
[17:27] <nusr> ActionPArsnip: thanks but I found the error. it was missing the tail end of a deb. however, now update is saying could not resolve http. it is just one of t he mirrors for R
[17:27] <yossarianuk> ive upgraded kubuntu 14.04 -> 14.10 - took about 30 mins - no issues whatsoever - i didn't have any extra repos(PPA's) added though
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nusr: can you pastebin the sources.list file please
[17:29] <sacarlson> srj55: oh ok so everybody can ping everybody?   so you just want hostnames that all share?  does it have to be seen on wan or just local net?
[17:29] <yossarianuk> I run arch also so am used to constant upgrades ....
[17:29] <nusr> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/9X3pXceb
[17:29] <yossarianuk> anyway i'm off home - c ya.
[17:30] <nusr> ActionParsnip: ahh i see why... extra http
[17:30] <nusr> doh sorry
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> nusr: change:    deb http://http://cran.stat.nus.edu.sg/bin/linux/ubuntu trusty/      to    deb http://cran.stat.nus.edu.sg/bin/linux/ubuntu trusty/
[17:30] <waressea1cher2> that one helped http://superuser.com/questions/626606/how-to-make-alsa-pick-a-preferred-sound-device-automatically
[17:30] <srj55> sacarlson: yes, they can all ping.  but the windows machines can only ping the ubuntu box by IP.  The windows machines themselves can ping by local hostname
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> srj55: you need to edit dhcpd a little to make it publish its hostname to the DHCP server
[17:31] <nusr> ActionParsnip: thanks. but i'm still getting an error message: W: GPG error: http://cran.stat.nus.edu.sg trusty/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 51716619E084DAB9
[17:32] <srj55> ActionParsnip:  is that /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf   -->  send host-name "proxy";   ?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> nusr: then you need their PGP key
[17:32] <pgnome> if I use the nvidia way, then I upgrade 14.04, do I have to re-install the nvidia driver if it's the latest?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> srj55: http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/11/17/send-hostname-to-dhcp-server-on-ubuntuxubuntu/
[17:32] <sacarlson> srj55: well I still don't know if you want it to work on wan so I asume not.  so you can setup a local only bind9 that is used as your localnets dns that has to be setup in your dhcp server also.  then you can setup local zones as to how you want the names
[17:32] <nusr> ActionParsnip: ok thanks I'll try a different mirror
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nusr: its not a mirror issue, you need to import the key
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nusr: gimme a sec
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> nusr: you will get this with ANY PPA you add in this way
[17:33] <OerHeks> nusr, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys E084DAB9   >>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2013441
[17:34] <sacarlson> srj55: the windows boxes must be using that other windows method to share names like samba
[17:34] <srj55> sacarlson:  just on lan.  need each machine to see each other via hostname.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> nusr: or:   sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 51716619E084DAB9
[17:35] <sacarlson> srj55: then you can use ether the samba method or bind9.  bind9 can also be setup to work on wan if you want later
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> srj55: the link I gave wil make the OS send its name to your home grade router and update the table of systems
[17:35] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, that is an other key that i have found :-(
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: nm, no harm done
[17:35] <sacarlson> srj55: samba can only be used to work on local networks as far as I know
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: I have that as a script :)
[17:35] <srj55> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com $1
[17:36] <OerHeks> oke :-D
[17:36] <srj55> sacarlson:  i dont want samba i don't think.  I just want my ubuntu machine to be visibible on my lan to the other vm machines via hostname
[17:36] <nusr> ActionParsnip: looks like ALL CRAN mirrors require public key for R package
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> nusr: then import them with the command I gave, just change the hex value you are presented with in the error
[17:39] <sacarlson> srj55: aactionparsnip had a better solution he gave you above that I've never used http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/11/17/send-hostname-to-dhcp-server-on-ubuntuxubuntu/
[17:39] <srj55> sacarlson: thanks
[17:39] <nusr> OerHeks & ActionaParsnip: thanks a lot.
[17:40] <welldone> Hi, would anyone know why I can use a guest account on my router to get this box online, but cannot login to my wireless network? Both use the same pass.
[17:41] <sacarlson> welldone: I'm not sure sounds like a router thing
[17:41] <nusr> ActionParsnip: It worked!!
[17:41] <nusr> sweet
[17:42] <welldone> yeah, i'm pounding my head on my keyboard.....
[17:43] <nusr> ActionParsnip: is there a guidebook with common commands? such as the one you gave to obtain the public key?
[17:43] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:44] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Authentication_Tab
[17:44] <nusr> OerHeks: thank you.
[17:47] <pgnome> what's the disadv. of using the PPA method?
[17:48] <OerHeks> you will be depended on the ppa maintainer
[17:48] <LurgidBee> sacarlson, thanks for the suggestion, I wrote a script "csmake" that will do what I need. #! /bin/bash
[17:48] <LurgidBee> input=$1
[17:48] <LurgidBee> gcc $1'.c' -lcs50 -o $1
[17:49] <sacarlson> LurgidBee: yup that should do it
[17:50] <pgnome> why do 'how-to' writeups have info that the current driver is current but it's not?
[17:50] <pgnome> current driver being 343.x but in software center - is 304
[17:50] <reisio> pgnome: 'cause they're dated?
[17:50] <k1l> pgnome: the package is called nvidia-current
[17:50] <pgnome> reisio, what is dated?
[17:51] <pgnome> the write-up is a mth ago but in software center, the only package is way older
[17:51] <pgnome> k1l, yes...except it's nowhere near 'current' :)
[17:51] <reisio> pgnome: all things
[17:51] <sacarlson> pgnome: as soon as you write something it's already out of date
[17:51] <k1l> pgnome: and if you think about how release on ubuntu work, you will get to know why that is the way it is
[17:51] <pgnome> the package maintainers are not updating/upgrading it?
[17:52] <pgnome> no wonder ppl use nvidia website :-/
[17:52] <k1l> pgnome: hint: we have freezes before releasing
[17:52] <k1l> pgnome: so you stand for shipping not tested drivers into a release. ok than go with the nvidia side and dont blame ubuntu if something breaks.
[17:53] <pgnome> oh, maybe it will no longer be 304.x if I upgrade to next release, too?
[17:53] <pgnome> k1l, okay, but 340 are tested?
[17:53] <pgnome> ver 340
[17:53] <pgnome> but, I think maybe because my OS is using 14.04 packages
[17:53] <sacarlson> pgnome: my last computer had nvida and I used the binary and when it worked it works very good
[17:53] <k1l> pgnome: "apt-cache search nvidia"
[17:54] <pgnome> ok, hold on
[17:54] <pgnome> sacarlson, yes, it works fine
[17:54] <ki7mt> pgnome, If you want the bleeding edge drivers, use the xorg-edgers ppa
[17:54] <pgnome> sacarlson, I just don't want the dreaded black screen if I upgrade anything :)
[17:54] <k1l> sacarlson: and when it breaks you blame nvidia-side? or you come here and blame ubuntu?
[17:54] <k1l> pgnome: so dont use nvidia.side driver if you dont like black screens
[17:55] <sacarlson> pgnome: I do recall having problems everytime I installed a new kernel I had to reinstall nvidia drivers
[17:55] <sacarlson> pgnome: maybe they fixed that
[17:55] <pgnome> k1l, 343.22 is listed
[17:56] <pgnome> sacarlson, I believe that is still necessary if you use the nvidia 'way' to install nvidia drivers - i.e. .run script etc.
[17:56] <sacarlson> pgnome: ya that was the best latest stuf that worked best for me at the time
[17:56] <pgnome> sometimes I make a mistake though... :)  when doing it that way :)
[17:58] <pgnome> k1l, well, what is the option?  nouveau or buy new amd card? :)
[17:58] <sacarlson> pgnome: at times I recall testing 3 - 4 different versions before I found the one that worked when I first got the computer 7 years ago
[17:58] <pgnome> I should be an expert by now... but, I forget the steps.... ;)
[17:58] <k1l> pgnome: so what is your issue? not having the bleeding edge driver?
[17:58] <pgnome> I don't need bleeding edge drivers...
[17:59] <pgnome> just latest stable
[17:59] <k1l> pgnome: haha!!
[17:59] <pgnome> k1l, :-)
[17:59] <k1l> pgnome: you came here ranting about ubuntu not having the bleeding edge drivers and now say you dont need them?
[17:59] <halppls> Hello, I am trying to make an alert that says something like "Today's date is Mon Oct 27 10:53:53 PDT 2014"
[17:59] <halppls> in Ubuntu
[17:59] <halppls> who do I use echo "Today's date is " + date
[17:59] <halppls> work?
[17:59] <pgnome> k1l, I meant latest stable
[18:00] <pgnome> k1l,  apt-cache command displayed that - but, how do I install it?
[18:00] <k1l> pgnome: ubuntu does ship the nvidia 304 as current or the 331 as latest
[18:00] <pgnome> k1l, hmmmm
[18:01] <k1l> pgnome: install the nvidia-331 package? but make sure you remove the other nvidia driver before
[18:01] <sacarlson> pgnome: ya if you find the same in a package then it will auto reinstall when a kernel is upgraded
[18:02] <daftykins> *auto generate a new module for the newly installed kernel
[18:02] <daftykins> via DKMS
[18:02] <dreamcat4> hi. is there an equivalent of jails in ubuntu? like chroot jails or something?
[18:02] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[18:02] <OnkelTem> Can you advice a good image viewer?
[18:02] <sacarlson> pgnome: in the later years there was working nvidia in ppa
[18:02] <BlaXpirit> I have 2 options for "input devices" in pavucontrol: the "normal" one and a webcam. A microphone is not connected, so I choose the webcam for sound input, and it works. However, sound input stops working after a while (I don't know exact conditions), and in pavucontrol I see that the webcam is not selected again. How can I forbid the setting to change?
[18:03] <OnkelTem> I'm on Ubuntu with KDE and want to change Gwenview to something else
[18:03] <dreamcat4> the reason i ask is because can easily end up with lots of pkgs installed (many dependancies). and that is a pain to manage
[18:04] <cyberalex4life> I have a question: for clamscan or clamfs to send me mail (on the system) do I have to install something or it just works by default
[18:04] <cyberalex4life> ?
[18:04] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: virtualbox
[18:04] <daftykins> cyberalex4life: read their docs to find out, likely it relies upon 'sendmail'
[18:05] <cyberalex4life> thank you!!
[18:05] <pgnome> sacarlson, makes sense...thanks
[18:05] <pgnome> sacarlson, so, do I dare install the 343.22 package? :)
[18:05] <halppls> On Ubuntu where is the home directory located?
[18:05] <sacarlson> pgnome: I don't know, if you have the time
[18:06] <myrick> halppls /home/ ?
[18:06] <myrick> or /root/ xD
[18:06] <genii> halppls: /home/yoursusrname
[18:06] <k1l> pgnome: you dont sound like someone wanting the stable driver but the bleeding edge one. so why do you still ask? we will not support that packages in here anyway
[18:06] <jpds> halppls: echo $HOME
[18:07] <pgnome> I think it'd be fine but I'd be using the ppa - well, I think I am already for an older version
[18:07] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: that isn't quite the same thing. it wastes (compartmentalizes) too much ram having to allowcate to each VMs, the host etc
[18:07] <dreamcat4> chroot shares the same memory pool = no wastage
[18:07] <irreverant> what can i do about this? http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/10/25/0046256/owncloud-dev-requests-removal-from-ubuntu-repos-over-security-holes
[18:08] <pbx> irreverant, say more. give context for your situation. what is your specific concern?
[18:09] <pgnome> k1l,  I don't understand  - they are not beta drivers and are in the repo
[18:09] <Pici> irreverant: If owncloud has its on repository use that.
[18:09] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: I've never attempted to have multi package setups to switch with chroot ,  more like multiboot but I guess you could have both multiboot and chroot
[18:09] <givello> Hey there, I'm experiencing trouble with my X.org since booting my computer tonight
[18:09] <irreverant> how do i update my repos? can i just manually remove the rremark for the sources list?
[18:09] <givello> I get the "no screen found" error
[18:09] <halppls> How can I list files form a particular directory with ls?
[18:09] <halppls> from*
[18:09] <givello> I have an Nvidia GTX770 and I'm not sure what to look for
[18:10] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: in virtualbox I like to just test it first and if it works then I install it on my real system
[18:10] <Pici> irreverant: what 'remark'?
[18:10] <givello> I tried rebooting obivously, as well as dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[18:10] <k1l> pgnome: what dont you understand? ubuntu (and we in here) support the stable nvidia-current or the nvidia-331 one. if that is too old for you use a PPA or the nvidia side but ask them if you get issues
[18:10] <givello> any tips?
[18:10] <ki7mt> irreverant, are you want to prevent the packages from being installed, or the ability to be installed or wanting fixes that haven't been published to the repo?
[18:11] <nusr> givello: buy bluehorseshoe
[18:11] <irreverant> ki7mt, yes
[18:11] <givello> nusr: wut
[18:11] <irreverant> there not there for 14.10 but are there for 14.04
[18:11] <nusr> givello: nevermind
[18:11] <k1l> irreverant: on a server you usually run a LTS anyway.
[18:12] <irreverant> arlight thank
[18:12] <pgnome> k1l, I understand now...thanks
[18:12] <genii> halppls: As for your earlier question about displaying the date, with the apostrophe in what's echoed:  echo -e 'Today\x27s Date is '$(date )
[18:12] <pgnome> I'll leave it for now
[18:13] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: ah right. good idea!
[18:13] <ki7mt> irreverant, look at adding a stanza for the package(s) in question to /etc/apt/preferences then use something like: echo <pkg-name> hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[18:13] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: I did do some experiments with chroot that didn't always work for me when switching complete systems.  I guess the kernel has to also match
[18:14] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: yes, that can be an issue. good point i forgot about that
[18:15] <cryptic0> I am having trouble installing rgdal R package on 14.04
[18:15] <sacarlson> dreamcat4:  there was also complications with the /proc and a few other direcotry
[18:15] <dreamcat4> on freebsd we can run a conventient cmd to copy binaries (like standard libraries etc) into the jails - that probably doesn't exist on linux
[18:16] <dreamcat4> i can imagine for proc, dev, and sys you can mount --bind all of those 3 into a chroot folder
[18:16] <cryptic0> anyone has any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8707610/
[18:16] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: I'm not sure since we build our deb packages in much the same way with chroot
[18:17] <ki7mt> k1l, That's not always the case, one needs to test releases as well, so something along the lines of development, staging then productions would seem prudent leading into the Next LTS release.
[18:18] <genii> cryptic0: libproj-dev package
[18:18] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: but I guess they don't serve the same purpose as we don't run the chrooted files just package them.  your jail I guess you run them in it?
[18:18] <cryptic0> genii: thanks
[18:18] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: i think there are some linux software projects that can manage and create chroot jails for you
[18:19] <givello> Any tips on how to fix a "screen not found" error with an nvidia gtx770?
[18:19] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: but i've been using freebsd jails up until now (with qjail on freebsd)
[18:19] <givello> Or at least where to look
[18:19] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: sure with a working script you should be able to chroot to another of your grub boots
[18:20] <cryptic0> genii: that did it, thank you.
[18:20] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: but these jails they are not full systems just minimal libs for what you want to run in it?
[18:20] <sjmikem> why doesn't my iterm come to the foreground when I alt-tab to it?
[18:21] <genii> cryptic0: You're welcome
[18:21] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: the way qjail (or 'qchroot') and ez-jail work on freebsd is there is a shared read-only folder containing the base system
[18:22] <sjmikem> s/iterm/terminal
[18:22] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: and that is mount --bind into every jail. then symlinks to re-create the basic unix / folder structure
[18:22] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: like for /usr/lib etc. then anything that isn't in those folders is rear-write inside the jail (your own programs)
[18:23] <kris__> hi there..is this place to solve only ubuntu problems?
[18:23] <k1l> kris__: yes
[18:23] <sjmikem> If I alt-tab to the Terminal app, then opt-tab to the window, that works
[18:24] <kris__> cool..
[18:24] <ErwinRoos> anyone know how to figure out which 3rd party programs might be problematic for the distro upgrade ??
[18:24] <sacarlson> dreamcat4: that sounds cool and useful for someone without sudo privs could do most anything in his space
[18:24] <xangua> ErwinRoos: basically any 3rd party program/repository might be
[18:24] <kris__> Erwinroos, everything is available from the repository right..any special significance for third party ?
[18:24] <ki7mt> scampbell, that's what dchroot is designed to do, non-root usage.
[18:25] <branko_> hi all
[18:25] <ki7mt> sacarlson, not scampbell .. lol .. sri
[18:25] <dreamcat4> sacarlson: yes indeed. there's no reason why it can't be done on linux either (except with the 'chroot' cmd rather than the 'jail' cmd)
[18:25] <ErwinRoos> @Xanngua and Kris__  standard error can't calculate blah blah
[18:25] <sjmikem> is it a gnome-terminal bug or a problem with unity settings somewhere?
[18:26] <k1l> ErwinRoos: please pastebin the whole error
[18:26] <dreamcat4> perhaps someone did it already on linux too. just not yet familiar / aware of all the various linux jails software
[18:28] <kris__> @Erwinroos, agree with K1l, please paste the error here
[18:28] <ErwinRoos> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  This can be caused by:
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[18:28] <ErwinRoos>  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
[18:28] <daftykins> ErwinRoos: for upgrades you need to remove all PPAs
[18:28] <ErwinRoos> How do I do that Daftykins ?
[18:29] <k1l> ErwinRoos: next time please use paste.ubuntu.com.  can you please show the output of "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[18:29] <daftykins> ErwinRoos: first off identify which ones you're running, then follow k1l 'cause he's beaten me to it \o/
[18:30] <ki7mt> daftykins, look at y-ppa-manager, but you'll need to remove that before upgrading also. Linky: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/y-ppa-manager
[18:30] <daftykins> ki7mt: i'm not the one asking for help, not sure why you're showing me this :)
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> total 52
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 27 14:30 .
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Apr 20  2014 ..
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  142 Oct 27 19:33 i2p-maintainers-i2p-trusty.list
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  142 Oct 27 19:32 i2p-maintainers-i2p-trusty.list.distUpgrade
[18:31] <ErwinRoos> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  142 Jul  5 11:17 i2p-maintainers-i2p-trusty.list.save
[18:31] <unopaste> ErwinRoos you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:31] <k1l> !paste | ErwinRoos i asked you twice to use a paste service. so please do so
[18:32] <daftykins> ki7mt: i greatly appreciate the irony in suggesting adding a PPA to install a program to manage PPAs to remove prior to an upgrade though. Chickens and eggs come to mind :)
[18:33] <ki7mt> daftykins, Indeed .. but it's much easier than chasing them all down  .. if you only have one or two, not a big deal.
[18:33] <sjmikem> anyone have ideas on my alt-tab problem?
[18:33] <sacarlson> ki7mt: looks like schroot is a super set of dchroot, dreamcat4 I would have to read more about it, it looks cool but I don't really have a real use for it that i can think of
[18:34] <ki7mt> sacarlson, I use it to share /home dirs between the two.
[18:34] <KrumpetPirate> Does anyone know a good git gui client?
[18:34] <ki7mt> sacarlson, Especailly when testing package builds and things.
[18:34] <sacarlson> ki7mt: between two people?
[18:35] <ki7mt> sacarlson, no, sigle user, I've not tried multi-user, but may work.
[18:35] <daftykins> ki7mt: ok, please direct that to the question askers in future though :)
[18:36] <ki7mt> daftykins, Hmm .. thought I did, fare enough.
[18:36] <SpareMeBS> #freebsd
[18:36] <sacarlson> ki7mt: ya I guess it might be good to test something in a pristeen freesh install that you could just snap to
[18:37] <ki7mt> sacarlson, You have to when you build packages,.
[18:37] <sacarlson> ki7mt: I was using virtualbox for my package test
[18:38] <ki7mt> sacarlson, i use pbuilder or cowbuilder most often, but like the schroot to test postinst / postrm scripts.
[18:38] <squinty> fwiw, there was no need to disable ppa's on the one box I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 as the updater stated it was going to automatically disable them before starting the upgrade (via the gui upgrader)
[18:38] <sacarlson> ki7mt: I guess it's worth a closer look
[18:39] <jParkton> try puppet that is what the cool kids use for build
[18:39] <ki7mt> sacarlson, It's not for everyone, but Im not goign to build prestine VM's to build packages, testing maybe, but not building.
[18:41] <ki7mt> jParkton, Im old and slow .. cool doesn't enter the picture in my world very often :-)
[18:43] <jParkton> I just like to sarcasticly put in what is popular, I don't personally use puppet
[18:43] <NeedHelp> Need some help...
[18:43] <NeedHelp> I just installed Windows 10, and I lost my grub with 2 Linux distrubutions.
[18:44] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: boot a live usb, chroot, and reinstall grub
[18:44] <NeedHelp> Whenever I startup the laptop it just immediatly goes to Widnows.
[18:44] <NeedHelp> Will I loose any data?
[18:44] <quantum-mechanic>  #python
[18:44] <EriC^^> nope
[18:44] <NeedHelp> What should I make bootale on my USB?
[18:44] <xangua> !grub2 | NeedHelp
[18:45] <sjmikem> Is my question unclear?  or just difficult?  :-)
[18:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: yes, make a bootable iso
[18:45] <k1l> NeedHelp: put in a ubuntu-cd/usb and reinstall the grub
[18:45] <NeedHelp> Would it work on Debian as well?
[18:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: you mean the live usb being debian or will reinstalling grub allow you to boot debian as well?
[18:46] <NeedHelp> reinstalling grub
[18:47] <EriC^^> yes, it'll work
[18:47] <EriC^^> you'll have debian, ubuntu, and windows in the grub menu
[18:47] <NeedHelp> How do I even reinstall the Grub?
[18:47] <EriC^^> if you chroot into debian installation, it should be the default entry
[18:47] <NeedHelp> can you link me to a site?
[18:48] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[18:48] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: can you boot a live usb and come here?
[18:48] <ki7mt> bootrepair
[18:48] <k1l> NeedHelp: for what now, ubuntu or debian?
[18:48] <NeedHelp> both
[18:48] <jParkton> lawl
[18:48] <NeedHelp> I've triple boot
[18:48] <NeedHelp> lol
[18:48] <givello> Hey there, I'm having an issue with my xorg, "no screens found". I tried a number of things, including installing the "current" version of the nvidia driver, and generating a xorg.conf
[18:48] <k1l> !grub | NeedHelp
[18:48] <givello> any tips?
[18:48] <potterapple> Hi guys i need some help
[18:48] <givello> I'm on 14.04.1 and have an nvidia GTX770
[18:48] <hulio> hi
[18:48] <k1l> NeedHelp: given you a lot of docs and links now, now its your task to read
[18:49] <NeedHelp> Would boot live repair be a better choise?
[18:49] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: nah
[18:49] <potterapple> I recently installed ubuntu 14.04 along with windows 8.1
[18:49] <hulio> can ubuntu installed on surface pro
[18:49] <potterapple> AAfter that windiws is taking like 10-15 mins to boot up!
[18:49] <potterapple> But ubuntu boots up in about a minute
[18:49] <hulio> can surface pro installed on ubuntu? please advise
[18:49] <potterapple> What could be the problem?
[18:49] <jParkton> didnt Ubuntu drop nvidia drivers from the last release?
[18:50] <k1l> hulio: first check if the bootloader allows that at all.
[18:50] <jParkton> er nvidia dropped linux support or some thing
[18:50] <k1l> jParkton: nope.
[18:50] <EriC^^> potterapple: ubuntu may have altered your perception of time such that windows seems to boot in 10-15mins :P
[18:50] <sjmikem> hello?  Is this thing on ?
[18:50] <trijntje> hi sjmikem
[18:50] <freijon_> that would suck big time jParkton ;)
[18:51] <jParkton> I think so
[18:51] <potterapple> EriC^^ no no im sure okay maybe not 10-15 mins about 7-10 mins atleast
[18:51] <jParkton> Torvalds recently spoke out on it
[18:51] <jParkton> let me try to find it
[18:51] <ki7mt> ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa  ... have a read on Launchpad
[18:51] <EriC^^> potterapple: maybe it was performing a chkdsk or something?
[18:51] <sjmikem> trijntje - hi :-)  Any idea what alt-tab to gnome-terminal window would not bring it to foreground?
[18:52] <sjmikem> s/what/why
[18:52] <ki7mt> And here: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/nvidia-driver-340-32-fixed-bugs/
[18:52] <jParkton> any reason why people would continue to use that dumb perl switch to correct typos?
[18:52] <hulio> does assphalt game have for unbuntu?
[18:52] <givello> I'd paste the error I get to you guys when using startx, but the thing is I'm in a tty right now
[18:52] <potterapple> EriC^^ but on every boot? Also sometimes i get this wierd screen when i select windows 8.1 ill show it yo you hold on
[18:53] <givello> and I forgot the name of that one pipe-able paste service
[18:53] <jParkton> givello: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:53] <bazhang> pastebinit givello
[18:53] <jParkton> then pastebinit cat /var/logs or whatever
[18:53] <givello> jParkton: perfect, thanks
[18:53] <sjmikem> jParkton do you have a better syntax to use?  and I thought it was sed long before it was perl...
[18:53] <k1l> jParkton: torvalds made a comment on the support of nvidia, yes. but its not dropped at all. dont mix that things
[18:53] <AlexPortable> How do I solve this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/537385
[18:54] <jParkton> k1l: dont scold me in flawed English
[18:54] <sjmikem> jParkton and it's much more productive to comment on that then to address the actual question, isn't it
[18:54] <AlexPortable> or well, system won't shutdown with nvidia driver
[18:54] <jParkton> sjmikem: do you have a point?
[18:54] <sjmikem> jParkton: you just made it for me, thanks
[18:55] <jParkton> your welcome
[18:55] <bazhang> stay on topic jParkton
[18:55] <EriC^^> jParkton: it's called reading between the lines
[18:55] <sjmikem> why do you bother to hang out here?
[18:55] <jParkton> bazhang: trying to
[18:55] <jmontero> hola
[18:55] <givello> here is the error I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708107
[18:55] <k1l> jParkton: do you have an ubuntu issue? else please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[18:55] <bazhang> sjmikem, lets move on
[18:55] <yourname1> hello
[18:55] <ki7mt> AlexPortable, whatever the fix, make sure you post your issues on the bug, so they know it's either back or wasn't really fixed to begin with.
[18:56] <givello> And here is my auto-generated xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708125
[18:56] <jParkton> k1l: ty I will
[18:56] <AlexPortable> ki7mt: it's not fixed. it even shows in the bug report
[18:56] <jParkton> givello: and this happens on boot?
[18:56] <bazhang> sjmikem, are you on gnome-shell or something else
[18:56] <ki7mt> AlexPortable, fare enough, I didn't study the bug, didn't even look at it actually.
[18:56] <givello> jParkton: nope, on boot I blink back to the terminal after a loading screen.
[18:56] <givello> jParkton: this happens when trying to startx
[18:57] <sjmikem> bazhang: not sure what gnome-shell is... I have a gnome-terminal window running, but when I try to alt-tab to it, it does not come to the foreground
[18:57] <jParkton> givello: did you recently autoremove some things?
[18:57] <givello> jParkton: I have yes
[18:57] <lickalott> is there a way to upload a file to something like dropbox via command line on ubuntu server?
[18:57] <k1l> givello: any reason you dont use lightdm but startx?
[18:57] <bazhang> sjmikem, the other shell being Unity
[18:57] <jParkton> hrmm
[18:57] <sjmikem> bazhang: oh, running Unity
[18:57] <potterapple> Ill be rigjt back
[18:57] <jParkton> try to apt-get install -f see if you get anything
[18:57] <givello> k1l: I'm just trying to start X from the terminal, didn't know lightdm was where it was at
[18:58] <givello> jParkton: let me try that
[18:58] <hulio> jParkton, i love Ubuntu man
[18:58] <k1l> givello: yes, on ubuntu you start it with "sudo lightdm start"
[18:58] <hulio> jParkton, with Samsung Evo 840 and fast shlt
[18:58] <potterapple> I'm back
[18:58] <bazhang> sjmikem, ok. gnome-shell has a number of alt-tab replacement extensions if you cannot get it going with unity. the nicest being a coverflow effect at the gnome extensions website
[18:58] <potterapple> EriC^^ I'll send the pic
[18:58] <givello> jParkton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708160
[18:58] <jParkton> opinions vary on Ubuntu lol
[18:59] <givello> k1l: let me try that, though I doubt if X can't start on it's own it'll start with lightdm
[18:59] <jParkton> givello: that is some odd stuff
[18:59] <jParkton> look in /var/logs see if you can find what fails
[18:59] <k1l> givello: no. lightdm will handle all that xserver starting stuff for you
[18:59] <sjmikem> bazhang: what's involved in switching from unity to gnome-shell to try it out?
[19:00] <ki7mt> no much, just install gnome-desktop
[19:00] <bazhang> sjmikem, apt-get gnome-shell and then choose at login
[19:00] <k1l> givello: what desktop do you want to start? what ubuntu is that?
[19:00] <sjmikem> bazhang: i'll try that out, thanks!
[19:01] <givello> jParkton: wait, forgot the 2>&1 or whatever the syntax is, so you might not have gotten all the errors
[19:01] <bazhang> sjmikem, once logged into it, you need to go to the gnome live extensions site and install some
[19:02] <givello> k1l: it's ubuntu with gnome3 installed, I was using gdm I believe
[19:02] <givello> k1l: and sudo gdm fails to do anything whatsoever
[19:02] <k1l> givello: so start the gdm
[19:02] <potterapple4269> Ugh i cant upload the pic
[19:02] <k1l> givello: so show the errors
[19:02] <k1l> potterapple4269: use imgur.com
[19:03] <givello> Anyone remembers the exact syntax to redirect errors to stdout? 2>&1 or 2&>1 or something like that?
[19:03] <givello> k1l: well, for sudo gdm it'll be quick, it just hangs
[19:03] <givello> k1l: I have to kill it
[19:03] <potterapple4269> K1l i did im on my phone so its not working properly windows will take ages to boot up
[19:04] <k1l> givello: try "sudo service gdm start"
[19:04] <givello> k1l: right away
[19:04] <ki7mt> givello, you have it right 2>&1 more info : http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[19:05] <givello> k1l: it was already running, and adding restart, well, restarted it, blinking me back to the terminal after a wee while
[19:05] <potterapple4269> So does anyone know why windiws could take 7-10 mins for booting up? Earlier it took about max 1 min
[19:05] <givello> jParkton: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708227
[19:06] <givello> Here are the errors when trying to start lightdm, it's a tad more interesting than when starting gdm
[19:07] <potterapple4269> Anyone?
[19:07] <jParkton> potterapple4269: winblows
[19:07] <givello> potterapple4269: can't help you, I don't use it
[19:07] <jParkton> not #Ubuntu
[19:07] <EriC^^> jParkton: unhelpful
[19:07] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: it
[19:07] <givello> k1l: I appreciate you kicking the guy who was trying to help me
[19:07] <potterapple4269> Crap :/
[19:07] <EriC^^> did you try booting into windows after partitioning?
[19:08] <k1l> givello: he was unhelpfull quite a lot and had warnings. dont blame me for that :/
[19:08] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: how did you partition btw?
[19:08] <jParkton> Oh I see
[19:08] <tgm4883> k1l: +1
[19:08] <jParkton> well be cool then
[19:08] <potterapple4269> Yeah i did its been 2-3 days since i installed ubuntu
[19:08] <jParkton> and by all means talk shit behind my back
[19:08] <AlexQ> Hi guys! Just can't find that in Google: I need to compress one large file, chosen gzip, might use bzip2 if necessary. I would like to compress that file into a single, multi-file archive. How to do it?
[19:09] <k1l> givello: so please draw the whole picture: what ubuntu is that? what did you do before the problems came up? what is the error messages? etc.
[19:09] <ki7mt> Whats more concerning is the mpdprobe.d directory errors, what did you do before the DM started failing givello
[19:09] <potterapple4269> ErixC^^ i created a 200Gb partition (had to use fixparts) and then i used 100 gn of it for ubuntu but windows is installed in a whole different partiton
[19:09] <EriC^^> AlexQ: tar czvf <filename.tar.gz> /path/to/files
[19:09] <givello> k1l: okay, let's start over: I don't remember what I did before it happened, since it revealed itself at boot tonight, and the last time I used my computer was the day before
[19:10] <givello> It's ubuntu 14.04.1
[19:10] <AlexQ> EriC^^: And where do I choose how large is one piece? I have only one file to compress
[19:10] <givello> The problem manifest itself in that when booting, after the ubuntu loading screen, I get thrown in a terminal, with nothing in ctrl+alt+F7
[19:10] <givello> or any of the other Fs
[19:11] <k1l> givello: can you show a "dmesg" output?
[19:11] <givello> I don't get any error per se, but when I try to run startx I get the error pasted above
[19:11] <AlexQ> EriC^^: If it is not possible, I could use a pipe with a program that would save into a new file every e.g. 512MiB
[19:11] <givello> k1l: good call, let me fetch that
[19:11] <ki7mt> givello, Well it appearts, thatn neither of you display managers are functional .. maybe not the absolute fix, but maybe reinstalling one fo them or another DE would get you to a point where  you can investigate further.
[19:11] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708266
[19:11] <k1l> givello: forget about startx. gdm in your case it the way to start a xserver. startx will ruin permissions
[19:12] <givello> ki7mt: let me try to reinstall gdm
[19:12] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ if i enable fastboot would that help?
[19:12] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: i don't think it's the problem, no
[19:12] <givello> for starters I just dpkg-reconfigured gdm
[19:13] <givello> doesn't work
[19:13] <givello> I'll try to reboot
[19:13] <givello> see you in a few
[19:13] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ okay! Thats a lead. So anything else i can try?
[19:13] <OnionGirl> hello everyone
[19:13] <k1l> givello: dou you have a nvidia hybrid card setup and removed the drivers at any chance?
[19:14] <OnionGirl> Can someone please help me. I just installed Ubuntu a few days ago and I've been having audio problems. For some reason the audo is really choppy and skippy. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[19:14] <AlexQ> EriC^^: You sure you got my question correctly? I want to compress one file into an archive that would be split into chunks
[19:14] <ki7mt> he needs to reconfig gdm, stop lightdm, then start gdm, but he's gone now.
[19:14] <givello> So, it didn't work.
[19:14] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah, hold on
 givello: dou you have a nvidia hybrid card setup and removed the drivers at any chance?
[19:15] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i can think of one way, but i'm pretty sure there's a better way
[19:15] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[19:16] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8708312/ here is my 200 last line of syslog
[19:16] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Yeah, it would be good to be able to decompress these files without the need of joining the archive back first
[19:16] <givello> k1l: nope, plain old gtx 770
[19:16] <givello> well, not that old.
[19:17] <givello> Oh, wait, I might have a video chipset on that motherboard
[19:17] <givello> let me check if I've an output there
[19:17] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: does windows have a log file for starts?
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I think that would work, but with gzip instead, as I don't need to tar anything: tar czpvf - /path/to/archive | split -d -b 100M - tardisk.
[19:17] <potterapple4269> No idea sorry i can check though
[19:17] <givello> There is a video output on the motherboard so I can only assume there's an internal chipset
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: And decompress just by piping too: cat tardisk* | tar xzpvf -
[19:17] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Is it good?
[19:17] <givello> would that count as hybrid?
[19:18] <AlexQ> EriC^^: All replaced with appriopriate gzip/gunzip commands ofc
[19:18] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i guess so
[19:19] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Wonderful. Actually, I wanted to archive my Windows recovery partition and upload it into cloud, so that's why I want to split it - to make uploading easier
[19:19] <EriC^^> AlexQ: ah i see
[19:20] <tgm4883> givello: I believe hybrid would be having both intel and amd/nvidia on the motherboard. This would be different than having a dedicated graphics card in a slot (do you have a dedicated graphics card also)?
[19:20] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ yeah there is a way to generate bootlogs but i can do that now only tomorrow
[19:20] <givello> tgm4883: I do
[19:20] <potterapple4269> Also guys do you know of any irc for windows?
[19:21] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: ##windows i think
[19:21] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I believe there is some software for it too, (partimage or sth), and it can split obviously, but... I don't have such control over compression as by doing it manually, and my only point is to get rid of empty space on the disk, which should be mostly 0s (this is not a active partition, unless Windows uses the rest of space for installation)
[19:21] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ thanks I'll ask there
[19:21] <k1l> givello: well, i think its a video driver issue
[19:21] <EriC^^> np
[19:22] <MartinMaritim> hey
[19:22] <givello> k1l: sure looks like it. I tried installing the "current" version of the nvidia drier
[19:22] <givello> k1l: didn't change anything
[19:22] <AlexQ> EriC^^: I don't think partimage or whatever is clever enough to read what space is empty from the filesystem and ommit it in the backup?
[19:22] <givello> k1l: I tried generating a xorg.conf file using xorg -conf I believe
[19:22] <MartinMaritim> i've just put a font into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and refreshed cache, but its not available in Libreoffice.
[19:22] <tgm4883> givello: ok, so this is a long shot, but I had a similar issue to yours. Basically I found that my graphics were being output on the onboard VGA rather than my dedicated graphics card. I had to go into BIOS/UEFI to disable the onboard and that fixed the issue
[19:22] <givello> k1l: didn't work either
[19:22] <EriC^^> AlexQ: could have an option
[19:23] <givello> tgm4883: oh, I see. I'll try to do that. maybe it was reset somehow?
[19:23] <givello> let me try that and i'll be right back :)
[19:23] <EriC^^> AlexQ: no idea
[19:23] <tgm4883> givello: not sure, but it's such an easy thing to test it's worth checking
[19:24] <MartinMaritim> Or: are there any packages providing fonts for ink-saving (ecological) printing?
[19:24] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Well, the size produced by bzip2 -9 was only a bit smaller than empty space on that disk, and the disk contains mostly software and other files, which are already compressed I presume; I guess that's the reason of poor compression ratio rather than compressing and storing empty space with some random file chunks
[19:24] <MartinMaritim> What I did is: http://superuser.com/questions/345599/how-to-install-ecofont-on-various-operating-systems
[19:26] <MartinMaritim> fc-list is listing the font:   /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice/ecofont_vera_sans_regular.ttf: Ecofont Vera Sans:style=Regular
[19:26] <EriC^^> AlexQ: yeah
[19:26] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Thanks for evaluating that approach then! Trying
[19:26] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Curious what gzip2 -1 will produce, how large files.
[19:30] <EriC^^> AlexQ: i think 7z has the best compression ratio
[19:31] <EriC^^> maybe it also has some kind of inherent split archiving too
[19:31] <AlexQ> EriC^^: Yeah, but I want it to be quick to start uploading today... Just curious if it is empty space, or not.
[19:31] <EriC^^> oh ok
[19:31] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ so i installed utorrents file for ubuntu its tar.gz i read that i need to use terminal to install it
[19:32] <potterapple4269> How v exactly any idea?
[19:32] <bekks> !info utorrent
[19:32] <bobbybobson> nope
[19:32] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: what do you mean by utorrents file?
[19:33] <potterapple4269> Like you know utorrent fir ubuntu
[19:33] <potterapple4269> *for
[19:33] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: you mean a client?
[19:33] <potterapple4269> Yeah
[19:33] <Killjoy> hello\
[19:33] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: ubuntu has a client, bittorrent , open the dash and type bittorent
[19:33] <Guest83983> u could use deluge
[19:34] <Killj0y> yea u could use deluge
[19:34] <potterapple4269> EriC^^ oh it's there already? Thanks!!
[19:34] <genii> EriC^^: utorrent is a web-based client, bittorrent is not
[19:34] <potterapple4269> Any way how does one install a .tar.gz?
[19:35] <bekks> potterapple4269: You unpack that archive, and you have to read the installation instructions included.
[19:35] <potterapple4269> Oh okay
[19:35] <EriC^^> potterapple4269: usually if you want something it's most likely in the repositories
[19:35] <potterapple4269> Okay thanks!! :)
[19:36] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[19:37] <bazhang> !torrent | potterapple4269
[19:38] <bazhang> transmission should suit fine potterapple4269
[19:39] <k1l> !away > dfgas
[19:39] <potterapple4269> bazhang i think I'll stick with bittorrent as it's already there
[19:39] <NeedHelp> Hi all! Me again... I've faced another problem while trying to recover my GRUB after installing Windows 10.
[19:39] <NeedHelp> I've made my USB bootable with Ubuntu, whenever I try to run my USB, it says that no operating system was found.
[19:40] <bekks> NeedHelp: How did you make it "bootable"?
[19:40] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: how did you make your usb?
[19:40] <NeedHelp> unetbootin
[19:40] <NeedHelp> with an .ISO file of course
[19:40] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: did you select it in the bios?
[19:40] <NeedHelp> yes.
[19:41] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: is it a good .iso? used before? checksummed if new?
[19:41] <NeedHelp> It seriously won't start up, I tried even Linux Mint and Ubuntu for now. Both didn't work.
[19:41] <bekks> NeedHelp: Which iso file?
[19:41] <NeedHelp> 64bit ubuntu
[19:41] <bekks> NeedHelp: Did you check the checksums?
[19:41] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: is secure boot enabled?
[19:41] <NeedHelp> no
[19:42] <EriC^^> no about the checksums or secure boot?
[19:42] <potterapple4269> Try recreating it?
[19:42] <NeedHelp> But CSM is enabled, without it it only keeps loading to BIOS, kinda in a loop.
[19:42] <NeedHelp> I've no idea about this checksums you talking about, what is it?
[19:43] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: if linux mint and ubuntu both didn't work
[19:43] <EriC^^> maybe your usb is bad
[19:43] <EriC^^> or some setting in the bios is wrong
[19:44] <NeedHelp> I'm sure it's not my USB.
[19:44] <onlaz> if I remove some apps from that unity menu, like libreoffice. Where can I find it by browsing, if I forget its name and cant use the search function?
[19:44] <NeedHelp> I've made Windows 10 and other Linux distro's before bootable.
[19:44] <sacarlson> NeedHelp: md5sum checksum will verify that the iso file you put into the usb is correct
[19:44] <k1l> onlaz: super+a
[19:44] <EriC^^> onlaz: in the dash you can select the applcations at the bottom and get a full list
[19:44] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: Why wouldn't you be able to use the search function?
[19:44] <Jordan_U> onlaz: ^^
[19:44] <EriC^^> k1l: nice
[19:45] <k1l> onlaz: or type keywords like cd for a burning program
[19:45] <sacarlson> NeedHelp: also I have had some bad usb flash drives before.  you might try another one or test it if it's the only one you have
[19:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: how are you selecting CSM with win10?
[19:45] <NeedHelp> It's a real weird problem. With CSM disabled it keeps looping into BIOS, without it it just goes only to Windows 10.
[19:45] <onlaz> EriC^^: in the dash? you mean the leftside menu? I have trash at the bottom
[19:46] <NeedHelp> Unfortunately it's my onlu USB, but i'm almost sure it's not my USB.
[19:46] <NeedHelp> only*
[19:46] <k1l> onlaz: use the apps-dash and on the right you can choose sections like multimedia, system,..
[19:46] <NeedHelp> @Eric, I'm able to go to BIOS, from there I can enable/disable CSM.
[19:46] <k1l> onlaz: but its really easier with the dash
[19:46] <onlaz> k1l: that super-a seems to be what I want thanks
[19:46] <EriC^^> onlaz: press super+a (windows key + a) , or press the first icon at the top to open the dash, then press the applcations icon at the bottom (2nd one)
[19:47] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: How did you prepare the USB for booting? You probably shouldn't have CSM enabled, as both Windows and Ubuntu will probably work better (and step on each other less) when configured for, and booting with, UEFI.
[19:47] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: yeah, what Jordan_U said
[19:47] <NeedHelp> @Jordan_U without CSM enabled, my laptop keeps in a loop to BIOS.
[19:48] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: shouldn't it just boot windows?
[19:48] <EriC^^> win10 is uefi right?
[19:48] <NeedHelp> I don't know, it boots only the BIOS with CSM disabled.
[19:48]  * EriC^^ feels a doh. moment dawning
[19:49] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: What do you mean by "boots only the BIOS"? What do you actually see when you try to boot with CSM disabled?
[19:49] <NeedHelp> Whenever the I start the laptop it immediately goes to BIOS.
[19:49] <OerHeks> secure boot?
[19:50] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: you said it was booting windows before
[19:50] <NeedHelp> When CSM is enabled, yes.
[19:50] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: you mean if you have the usb selected as the boot device?
[19:50] <EriC^^> csm means legacy right?
[19:50] <NeedHelp> Compatibility Support Module (CSM)
[19:51] <onlaz> is it possible to have the classic taskbar behaviour and the toolbar of the windows above the actual windows while having the super button quick search thing menu?
[19:51] <NeedHelp> When CSM is enabled and I choose the boot option USB, I get an error that no Operating System is found.
[19:51] <EriC^^> onlaz: toolbar above the windows, settings > appearance > behavior > show menus
[19:52] <EriC^^> onlaz: classic taskbar behavior, not sure what you mean
[19:52] <NeedHelp> I'm sure the USB is bootable, it's my laptops problem not mine USB.
[19:52] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: What do you mean by "boots only the BIOS"? What do you actually see when you try to boot with CSM disabled?
[19:52] <NeedHelp> Just BIOS.
[19:52] <NeedHelp> @Jordan.
[19:52] <NeedHelp> Save and quit will let me again go to BIOS.
[19:53] <onlaz> I don\t know where to go to settings > appearance > behaviour so I went to super and typed appearance, icon appeared, I clicked it but nothing happened
[19:54] <EriC^^> onlaz: click the top right corner and select settings
[19:54] <EriC^^> onlaz: what did you mean by classic taskbar behavior?
[19:55] <NeedHelp> BTW, Windows 10 is a little better then Win 8 if you were questioning yourself. ;-)
[19:56] <onlaz> alrighty.. well I just meant the taskbar thing where the running apps are shown on top or bottom bar instead of left bar with showing also those that are not running
[19:56] <onlaz> classic menu shows only running, this shows all
[19:56] <onlaz> but I guess I could get used to this too by removing the useless ones
[19:57] <EriC^^> onlaz: yeah, you can remove what you want, it'd still show whatever you run
[19:57] <NeedHelp> Someone want to help me in DM? It will be easier that way.
[19:57] <EriC^^> onlaz: to place it on the bottom, you can use cairodock
[19:57] <EriC^^> !info cairodock
[19:57] <EriC^^> !info cairo-dock
[19:57] <onlaz> this is not as space efficient, because the top bar is almost fully empty now having only those couple icons on top right corner and meanwhile occupying much space on left side
[19:57] <Jordan_U> NeedHelp: This is an important question, please answer it. *What do you see?*
[19:58] <NeedHelp> I think I already answered it @Jordan. I see the BIOS. It simply directly boots to my BIOS. I'm not able to press any other keys.
[19:59] <onlaz> ok Ill look into those
[19:59] <NeedHelp> I mean before the BIOS loads I can not press any other key.
[19:59] <onlaz> where did you get windows 10?
[20:00] <NeedHelp> Whatever I change, if the CSM is still disabled it keeps booting to BIOS only.
[20:00] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: is secure boot disabled?
[20:00] <NeedHelp> yes.
[20:00] <Dr_Natas> check fast boot to be disabled.
[20:01] <onlaz> can I download the windows 10 preview version what you are talking about, without having any windows licenses?
[20:01] <NeedHelp> Fast boot, Secure boot are disabled only CSM is enabled.
[20:01] <OerHeks> onlaz, wrong channel
[20:02] <NeedHelp> Onlaz you can, it's beta. Buy as @OerHeks says, this is not an Windows channel.
[20:02] <reisio> onlaz: win10 comes with a key, it expires in about a year as it's a preview
[20:02] <reisio> onlaz: free for anyone, for now, for about a year
[20:02] <onlaz> okay. can you run games like hearthstone with it?
[20:03] <NeedHelp> Dude, just install Windows 8.
[20:03] <reisio> onlaz: um, dunno, probably
[20:03] <NeedHelp> You can later upgrade to Windos 10. Jeez...
[20:03] <onlaz> I dont have the license and I am afraid to illegally download malwarezed copies
[20:03] <reisio> MS actually provides free virtual machine images
[20:03] <reisio> they're just time bombed, so you'd have to regen them regularly
[20:03] <reisio> https://github.com/xdissent/ievms for example
[20:03] <k1l> guys, windows support really doesnt suit in this channel. that is unfair for users coming here for help for ubuntu
[20:04] <OerHeks> maybe you need bootrepair NeedHelp https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Converting_Ubuntu_into_EFI_mode
[20:04] <reisio> I think he's trying to improve his Ubuntu usage
[20:04] <reisio> by replacing win32 apps
[20:04] <NeedHelp> true @k1l, guys lets talk about Ubuntu.
[20:05] <Bubo_> EriC^^, are you there?
[20:06] <EriC^^> Bubo_: yeah
[20:06] <NeedHelp> @OerHeks - I can't go to Boot Repair that's my problem. It won't load anything except Windows looks like.
[20:06] <NeedHelp> from USB bootable
[20:06] <EriC^^> Bubo_: what's up?
[20:06] <OerHeks> did you use disk encryption with win10 ?
[20:06] <NeedHelp> No.
[20:07] <NeedHelp> Windows is really annoying. -.-
[20:07] <Bubo_> EriC^^, hey, remember my problem with dual booting ubuntu and win8? You helped me gix it
[20:07] <Bubo_> fix*
[20:07] <onlaz> did your win10 installation mess up your ubuntu too, or what is needhelps problem?
[20:07] <EriC^^> Bubo_: ok
[20:07] <EriC^^> Bubo_: did we switch .efi files?
[20:08] <NeedHelp> I think my partition is still alive somewhere @onlaz, it's just that it messed up my GRUB.
[20:08] <Bubo_> EriC^^, yea we did. Can you explain what we did? I need to fix my Arch boot too
[20:08] <EriC^^> Bubo_: ok
[20:09] <onlaz> oh.. I thought windows installations up from 7 or 8 at least have managed to leave grub alone, or just add their own entry there. So installing that windows 10 will mess up the bootloaders?
[20:09] <onlaz> or such
[20:09] <Bubo_> onlaz, every windows installation messes up boot
[20:09] <NeedHelp> I thought the same @Bubo.
[20:09] <EriC^^> Bubo_: the bios looks bootmgfw.efi in the efi partition, and we replaced that file with grub's .efi file and called it bootmgfw.efi so that bios loads it instead of the microsoft boot manager
[20:09] <k1l> onlaz: windows, with its monopol, doesnt care about other OSs.
[20:10] <Nao> Salut
[20:10] <Bubo_> EriC^^, oh, so I just need to update grub's .efi and just replace it again?
[20:10] <EriC^^> Bubo_: what do you mean by fix your arch boot?
[20:10] <NeedHelp> I think I might have an BIOS problem.
[20:10] <EriC^^> grub should have arch there too no?
[20:10] <onlaz> I am on ubuntu live cd. I am thinking of installing ubuntu 14.04.1. I have been running lubuntu, but I have encountered some problems that ppl suggest me a clean install. So if I wanted to try w10 too, I guess I shuld do the conventional windows 10 installation first, and then install ubu 14.04.1
[20:10] <Guest23495> .
[20:10] <Bubo_> EriC^^, I want to install Arch now, and I know it will somehow mess up my boot
[20:10] <EriC^^> Bubo_: have you installed arch in another partition?
[20:11] <EriC^^> Bubo_: are you installing it in another partition?
[20:11] <Bubo_> EriC^^, I will be replacing the ubuntu one. Can we talk in PM since it's not really ubuntu issue?
[20:11] <EriC^^> Bubo_: if you're installing arch, you'll have to grub-install yourself, so you can just skip that if you want
[20:11] <NeedHelp> @Onlaz - if you wan't an stable OS where everything goes smoothly from Windows, I really would pick Win7/8
[20:11] <EriC^^> and just update-grub in ubuntu to catch arch's installation
[20:11] <EriC^^> ok
[20:12] <onlaz> does the startup disk creator on ubuntu work just aswell if I wanted to create a bootable and installable windows 10 on usb? or is it just for linux startup disks
[20:12] <dfdf> offtopic: im using Xming server on my windows machine, when i start any X app via ssh (putty) i.e. XChat it doesn't apply my GTK theme settings, any hints?
[20:12] <NeedHelp> BIOS problems, who has experience with this CSM?! My worst nightmare till now.
[20:13] <bazhang> dfdf ##windows
[20:13] <onlaz> NeedHelp: I am not planning on spending any money. I would just install it for testing purposes and maybe trying some games occasionally. or as a backup OS. I will be using ubuntu
[20:13] <bazhang> onlaz, windows has tools for that ----> ##windows for help
[20:14] <onlaz> bazhang: youre saying that the startup disk creator cant manage the windows 10 ISO?
[20:14] <dfdf> bazhang, not really #windows related. its more about configuring GTK
[20:14] <NeedHelp> STOP TALKING ABOUT WINDOWS NOW.
[20:14] <NeedHelp> 0.0
[20:14] <onlaz> my question is startup disk creator related!
[20:14] <bazhang> dfdf are you not on hexchat yet?
[20:15]  * reisio defenestrates NeedHelp 
[20:15] <onlaz> reisio: these ievms you posted are also usable for like one year or so?
[20:15] <reisio> onlaz: I think less
[20:16] <dfdf> bazhang, im using xchat right now running on Ubuntu 14.04, but all i want is to change my default GTK theme. i dont know how tho
[20:16] <adac> is the new package for pidgin available soon? there are severe security holes in the old one it seems http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Sicherheits-Update-fuer-Pidgin-Messenger-2435406.html
[20:17] <bazhang> dfdf, yes, and hexchat is the maintained/developed one, much easier to handle
[20:17] <Linnak> Hi, I'm looking for a cool system monitor. I used a month ago but I forget which was that. It isn't in the official repos. Can someone offer me one?
[20:17] <k1l> adac: there will not be any version number updates but patches. but best is to make a bug report to make the maintainer of that package be aware of the issues
[20:18] <bazhang> Linnak, conky
[20:18] <dfdf> bazhang, ok i'll try it now :P
[20:18] <bazhang> Linnak, if its not official, search the  web for it
[20:18] <Linnak> bazhang: Thanks, I know that. What I'm thinking on is not in the official repos.
[20:18] <adac> k1l, Thanks! where can I do that? and how do I find out who is the package maintainer
[20:19] <ionreflex> a coworker just upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10, after login only the mouse appear over the background, no sidebar...
[20:19] <bazhang> Linnak, so do a bing/goog/we search for it
[20:19] <k1l> adac: file a bug on launchpad.net to pidgin
[20:19] <Linnak> I did. I'm doing it for  an hour. I thought someone uses here
[20:19] <k1l> !bug | adac
[20:19] <adac> k1l, thanks mate!
[20:20] <dfdf> ok, now it's hexchat.
[20:20] <reisio> :)
[20:20] <ionreflex> AMD GPU Radeon 6850
[20:20] <dfdf> anyway back to my question. How do i change default gtk theme?
[20:21] <grosjean> dfdf: do you use gnome-shell ?
[20:21] <grosjean> if so, use gnome-tweak-tool
[20:21] <bazhang> dfdf for xchat , try #xchat
[20:22] <ionreflex> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request:  155 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request:  22 Current serial number in output stream:  22
[20:22] <ionreflex> openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
[20:22] <ionreflex> cannot connect to brltty at :0
[20:22] <ionreflex> Script for ibus started at run_im.
[20:22] <ionreflex> Script for auto started at run_im.
[20:22] <ionreflex> Script for default started at run_im.
[20:22] <dfdf> grosjean, installing~
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <ionreflex> upstart: at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning
[20:22] <bazhang> unopaste?
[20:23] <Jordan_U> ionreflex: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for posting multiple lines. You've been temporarily muted to avoid further flooding.
[20:24] <ionreflex> Oups, sorry...
[20:25] <dfch> nope gnome-tweak-tool doesnt help
[20:25] <ionreflex> Content of ~/.xsession-errors = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8709093/plain/
[20:25] <ionreflex> (is that the way to do it?)
[20:26] <linux> Alguien sabe cómo calibrar la rueda del mouse para que en el desplazamiento no se salte partes?
[20:26] <grosjean> ionreflex: yes
[20:27] <ionreflex> any input is welcomed, I keep looking...
[20:27] <Jordan_U> ionreflex: Yes, though in the future please don't link to plain output (even though with other pastebin sites I prefer raw pastes, unfortunately Ubuntu's pastebin requires a launchpad login to view plain pastes).
[20:27] <jpds> Jordan_U: (Because of abuse for malware payloads).
[20:28] <ubunt633> buenas
[20:28] <ubunt633> oye linus note pasa en firefox
[20:28] <ubunt633> tenes que habilitar el desplazamiento automatico
[20:28] <whirlwind> hi guys...beginner here...was looking for nice conky recommendations that are minimalist & nice looking
[20:28] <linux> Me pasa en todas partes...
[20:29] <ubunt633> que estas usando ubuntu ?
[20:29] <Jordan_U> !es | ubunt633
[20:29] <linux> Ubuntu 14.04
[20:30] <adac> k1l, I could not really choose pidgin or the responsible person: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1386410
[20:30] <ubunt633> el mismo que yop mmm ya probaste en configuracion y probar si funciona el mouse
[20:31] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys  I did an upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 my laptop mouse pad not working
[20:31] <linux> Ya lo hice, pero nada soluciona el problema y en google no encuentro nada...
[20:31] <ionreflex> Jordan_U : what format? Text only?
[20:31] <ubunt633> mm linux have a problem whit the mouse wheel
[20:32] <ubunt633> he is using ubuntu 14.4
[20:33] <dfch> found "solution" for my problem
[20:33] <dfch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1800094
[20:33] <k1l> !mx | linux
[20:33] <Shimmy> Does anynone know a way to limit battery capacity on Lenovo IdeaPad device? (14.04)
[20:33] <k1l> linux: see #ubuntu-mx
[20:34] <dfch> kinda lol'ed when been forwarded to #windows and #xchat tho
[20:34] <linux> I did it.
[20:34] <pbx> Shimmy, i don't know anything about that hardware, but i think you should expand/clarify what you mean by  "limit battery capacity"
[20:35] <leonic12> mm linux ya probaste apt-get update ?
[20:35] <leonic12> y mm activar el dezplazamiento automatico en FF
[20:35] <Shimmy> pbx: allow it only to charge up to i.e. 60% and start charging when it drops to 50%
[20:37] <linux> Tengo todas las actualizaciones y ya probé lo de FF...
[20:38] <dfch> kamchatka?
[20:38] <SigMa__> so, I have an issue. after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, my gui seems to have lost the priveleges to do anything that requires root. so i can't mount drives from gui, and i cant shut of  my computer from gui, etc. anyone know how to fis this>
[20:38] <SigMa__> ?
[20:38] <Shimmy> or, what would be even better, keep battery at certain level (i.e. 60%) and always use DC charger so the battery is not used
[20:39] <SigMa__> I had read that the /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/90-mandatory.d/udisks2-inhibit.pkla rule might be causing this, however this rule is not present in my system
[20:40] <leonic12> pero de otra manera tu mraton funciona normal mm no sera algo de hardware ?
[20:40] <Xerwer> o
[20:41] <k1l> !es | leonic12
[20:42] <linux> No creo que sea problema de hardware, en windows funciona bien
[20:43] <Sabari> Hi. Upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and after the upgrade, the gui becomes unresponsive after login
[20:43] <success> how do i fetch stuff in the universe?
[20:43] <quadHelix> I have just encrypted my home directory.  While I am logged in I can no longer access my websites I am developing (they were linked to /var/www).  Will I be able to use my home directory for development via symbollic links or must I move my data to /var/www?
[20:43] <ionreflex> Sabari : I guess you meant 14... same here!
[20:44] <Sabari> sorry it is 14
[20:44] <puish> Has anyone dealt with the issue where sometimes on boot it cannot find a wifi network? Other times it works flawlessly
[20:45] <SigMa__> so, I have an issue. after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10, my gui seems to have lost the priveleges to do anything that requires root. so i can't mount drives from gui, and i cant shut of  my computer from gui, etc. anyone know how to fis this?  had read that the /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/90-mandatory.d/udisks2-inhibit.pkla rule might be causing this, however this rule is not present in my system
[20:46] <ionreflex> Sabari : AMD/ATI card?
[20:46] <SigMa__> is there anyway to fix? or do i have to preform a fresh install?
[20:47] <treehug88> SigMa__: any hints in logfiles?
[20:47] <SigMa__> witch logfiles would i need?
[20:48] <Sabari> ionreflex: intel Integrated
[20:48] <treehug88> check /var/log/syslog
[20:48] <treehug88> and /var/log/authlog (less likely to help)
[20:49] <treehug88> trigger the issue again and look at the ends of those files, maybe there's a hint
[20:50] <Sabari> mouse clicks are not responding, keyboard as well except that i am able to get to the terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[20:52] <SigMa__> got nothing from the auth.log
[20:53] <SigMa__> Oct 27 14:37:32 Aurora gnome-session[2028]: WARNING: Unable to inhibit system: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Operation not permitted is from my syslog
[20:53] <treehug88> hmmm
[20:54] <treehug88> did you google that error
[20:55] <treehug88> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-978198-start-0.html
[20:55] <SigMa__> yeah, im on google right now. i found a page that looks similar from gentoo but i dont know if it would cross distros properly
[20:55] <dfch> thumbs up for gentoo :p
[20:56] <acerspyro> Why are you guys so much against updating to 14.10?
[20:56] <treehug88> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230602  ?
[20:56] <acerspyro> I'd love to know
[20:56] <SigMa__> plus there is a launchpad bug for it too that i found.
[20:56] <treehug88> acerspyro: curious here too
[20:56] <kostkon> acerspyro, only 9 months of support
[20:56] <acerspyro> kostkon: And?
[20:57] <treehug88> and many people prefer LTS
[20:57] <acerspyro> That's all I get, "only 9 months of support"
[20:57] <treehug88> "long term support" is 5 years-ish
[20:57] <acerspyro> I update AS SOON as an update comes out.
[20:57] <acerspyro> Not after 9 months
[20:57] <treehug88> acerspyro, you asked you got an answer :)
[20:57] <acerspyro> treehug88: I did lol
[20:57] <kahtahs_> acerspyro: updating w/o doing any testing
[20:58] <treehug88> I like LTS too
[20:58] <guntbert> acerspyro: back to support please - this is not a room for discussions
[20:58] <acerspyro> But people are all like "Why would you switch" :P
[20:58] <treehug88> fair question
[20:58] <brainwash> feel free to update to 14.10
[20:58] <acerspyro> guntbert: This is support, I seek assistance concerning the reason to stay on LTS
[20:58] <acerspyro> brainwash: I did, and my video driver stopped working
[20:58] <acerspyro> And then everyone was like "Buh why did you switch?"
[20:59] <hasan> hi. I just installed ubuntu 14.04. but my unity compiz (the launcher on the top left) isn't fullscreen
[20:59] <hasan> any hints?
[20:59] <brainwash> luckily you did a system backup before upgrading... didn't you? :)
[20:59] <guntbert> acerspyro: you can discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic or maybe #ubuntu-discuss
[20:59] <dooshtuRabbit> are you guys corporations that you need LTS?
[20:59] <k1l> acerspyro: its your choice. every user got his own demands so he can choose to.
[20:59] <acerspyro> system is 6 days old
[20:59] <SigMa__> and the launchpad bug is not helpfull with workarounds
[21:00] <k1l> acerspyro: and this channel is not for general chat or polls. if you have a technical issue you are right in here.
[21:00] <dooshtuRabbit> LTS is necessary if your running ubuntu on production servers and when hell breaks out can call someone to yell at
[21:00] <acerspyro> k1l: I did ask an issue
[21:00] <Guest34143> hi guys, is there any online tv channels that stream IT related stuff? Sounds daft possibly, but would be really information... aka, I press play and forget about it, unlike youtube where you search for stuff then press play
[21:00] <k1l> !lts | acerspyro
[21:01] <hasan> the compiz overlay in ubuntu is approx. a quater the size of my screen/display. it is a box quater the size of my display
[21:01] <hasan> on the top left.
[21:01] <bazhang> Guest34143, miro
[21:01] <hasan> how can I go fullscreen?
[21:01] <acerspyro> k1l: Is there a way to get all the latest packages on Stable?
[21:01] <k1l> acerspyro: you asked for a poll. that will block this support channel with discussion for a long period and is unfair for users having technical issues. so please dont do that. and dont try to start a drama out of it
[21:01] <bazhang> !info miro | Guest34143
[21:01] <leonic12> is there a way to add a iso on yumi whiout reformat ?
[21:01] <acerspyro> What poll?
[21:01] <k1l> acerspyro: no. you mixed latest and stable there in your sentence
[21:02] <bazhang> acerspyro, whether to upgrade or not
[21:02] <Guest34143> bazhang ubottu: Does this have computer subjects?
[21:02] <acerspyro> *sigh*
[21:02] <SigMa__> anyone got any ideas =/ im kinda stuck
[21:02] <bazhang> Guest34143, yes many, and you can add channels and search for many more
[21:02] <topdownjimmy> bazhang: Wow, Miro hasn't been updated since April 2013?
[21:02] <topdownjimmy> I used to follow its development so closely.
[21:03] <kosmas> Hi there is there any way to check if the graphics card has been busted?
[21:03] <acerspyro> omg waaaaaaaat
[21:03] <linux> Ya encontré el problema.  http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_velocidad-rueda-raton_1699148
[21:03] <linux> Gracias a todos.
[21:03] <bazhang> topdownjimmy, thats not so long ago, but it still works quite well last I tried
[21:03] <acerspyro> I'm out of here. This channel is too weird for me, people talk to me like they're a recorded message.
[21:04] <kosmas> or that my intel graphic card on VGA is corrupted?
[21:04] <TTN> lol acerspyro
[21:04] <k1l> linux: last time now: please write english in here. you were asked to do that or change to a support channel for your language quite often now
[21:04] <bazhang> kosmas, are you trying to do 3D wiht that intel card?
[21:04] <brainwash> SigMa__: maybe reinstall the udisks2 package
[21:04] <SigMa__> ok, ill have a go at that
[21:05] <kosmas> bazhang: no it is just because my VGA1 does not display anything no more..
[21:05] <leonic12> mm that last mesg was the answer to his problem
[21:05] <leonic12> and he say thanks to all
[21:05] <dna113p> I'm looking for a cool dock that is more like on a mac... i am using xubuntu rather than ubuntu. It has a panel that can hide and be used as a dock but it's a bit of a pain to set up and isn't very pretty
[21:05] <brainwash> SigMa__: also, check if the udisksd daemon is running in the background (process list)
[21:06] <dooshtuRabbit> dna133p: try kde
[21:06] <bazhang> dna113p, docky, perhaps awn
[21:06] <SigMa__> udisks2 appears to have been missing completely. hoever on the install dpkg gave an error(1)
[21:06] <Finetundra> dna113p, you could install Docky and then get the mac theme for it from noobslab
[21:06] <kosmas> bazhang: I  have got this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/540333/monitor-connected-to-vga1-went-blank
[21:06] <SigMa__> Errors were encountered while processing:  brltty E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:07] <brainwash> SigMa__: that's bad I guess =S
[21:07] <Finetundra> dna113p, the theme can be found here: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/macbuntu-1404-pack-is-released.html
[21:07] <SigMa__> yeah =P any idea what there error is coming from?
[21:08] <brainwash> SigMa__: the package "brltty" is causing some trouble
[21:08] <kosmas> bazhang: I have given up and I though that my graphics card cannot support any more..
[21:08] <SigMa__> should i try to install it by itself and retry the udisks2 after?
[21:08] <brainwash> SigMa__: try to run "sudo apt-get install -f", upload the full output to a pastebin service
[21:09] <dna113p> Finetundra: thanks very much i'll check that out
[21:09] <Finetundra> dna113p, anytime
[21:10] <david38400> I cant use ffmpeg to convert videos anymore on Ubuntu 14.04 anyone else having the same problem? How can I resolve it
[21:10] <SigMa__> brainwash: http://pastebin.com/m2jzihCW
[21:11] <troyready> Can anyone help me identify the format that tc traffic shaping addresses are listed in? E.g., on my system `tc -s filter ls dev eth0` includes the output "match 0a646132/ffffffff at 16"
[21:11] <kahtahs_> david38400: ubuntu switched to libav a long time ago. you should use avconv
[21:11] <troyready> And I know that was generated from "ip dst 10.100.97.50", but I'm not sure how that's translated. Some sort of hex?
[21:12] <imbezol> troyready: looks like the ip in hex.. a = 10, 64 = 100, etc..
[21:13] <troyready> Oh, right, just in sections
[21:13] <troyready> Thanks imbezol !
[21:14] <imbezol> troyready: your ffffffff is your netmask
[21:14] <brainwash> SigMa__: found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187724
[21:14] <david38400> kahtahs_, thats why i am having so many problems then. Thks will try OK
[21:15] <edibile> anyone installed lxle 14.04.1 recently?  i can't find the option to change to the xp theme.  in fact, the desktop looks identical to ubuntu 14.04 LTS desktops on other machines.
[21:15] <brainwash> SigMa__: the problem is this line "insserv: Service mountkernfs has to be enabled to start service ..."
[21:15] <kosmas> if any one has any idea about graphics card and display I will be happy to see your suggestions about this here.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/540333/monitor-connected-to-vga1-went-blank.. Thanks!
[21:15] <david38400> kahtahs_, Just checked and thats WinFF and it wont work
[21:15] <SigMa__> brainwash: thanks man
[21:15] <k1l> edibile: ask the lxle support for their specific issues
[21:15] <david38400> kahtahs_, I have winFf installed and it wont work
[21:16] <brainwash> SigMa__: hopefully it helps to get the problem resolved
[21:16] <david38400> Ubuntu 14.04 is giving a lot of problems lately. I am thinking of changing, its horrrendous
[21:16] <kahtahs_> david38400: winff?
[21:17] <dna113p> Question, is there a place where I can check what version of a software is going to be downloaded from apt-get so i can better decide if i should use a PPA?
[21:17] <kahtahs_> david38400: more like clean install trusty than you wouldn't have ffmpeg to begin with
[21:17] <guntbert> dna113p: try apt-cache show <package>
[21:17] <k1l> dna113p: see "apt-cache policy package" or packages.ubuntu.com
[21:18] <jimmy51v_> !info squid-proxy-deb-client
[21:18] <david38400> kahtahs_, I want to clean install, and downloaded the iso file burnt to dvd and cant even get bios to boot from the dvd. Its hell
[21:18] <jimmy51v_> !info squid--deb-proxy-client
[21:18] <Armadillos> Question: Does anyone know of a software that I can install on my Ubuntu router that will monitor bandwidth, latency, and data sent/received?  Something simple. :)
[21:18] <brainwash> !nomodeset
[21:18] <jimmy51v_> !info squid-deb-proxy-client
[21:18] <david38400> kahtahs_, when I type in avcon it passes me to winff which is already installed and doesnt work
[21:19] <OerHeks> dna113p, install synaptic for detailed package info
[21:20] <kahtahs_> david38400: i'd say purge ffmpeg and install libav-tools instead
[21:20] <kahtahs_> david38400: then reconfigure winff-gtk2
[21:20] <david38400> kahtahs_, I think I have decided to switch over to Linux Mint 17 instead. Ubuntu 14.04 has given me a headache with so many bugs
[21:21] <k1l> david38400: its your choice. just keep in mind to use the mint channel for support then.
[21:21] <Sunstream> ki7mt, thank you for that website for the disk drive matainance
[21:22] <kahtahs_> david38400: don't see how that problem wouldn't emerge there, too
[21:23] <kahtahs_> david38400: there was a transitional ffmpeg package for years which said to switch to libav. if you ignored it..
[21:23] <david38400> kahtahs_, It just seemed so much easier with Mint.  All of a sudden nothing works properly, not even my bluetooth
[21:23] <SigMa__> brainwash: if your still there, i have made some progress. it appears that mountkernfs is failing somewhere
[21:23] <k1l> david38400: that actually depends on what you did before it magically did not work anymore
[21:23] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Ok, glad you got it sorted.
[21:24] <david38400> kahtahs_, If I type in libav in software it sends me to winFF which is installed alaready
[21:24] <brainwash> SigMa__: did you try to enable or start the service manually?
[21:24] <david38400> Thanks guys I will just have to give up sorry. Nobody yet has been able to help me get my bluetooth working as an example. Its very disappointing for me to say that
[21:25] <kahtahs_> david38400: type libav-tools
[21:25] <SigMa__> it appears to be a signal emit that happens on boot so that brltty can start.
[21:26] <david38400> kahtahs_, I have installed it. What do I do now?
[21:27] <david38400> k1l, Honestly cant say I did anything to have all these bugs
[21:27] <kahtahs_> david38400: did you uninstall ffmpeg?
[21:27] <isomorphismes> Does unity do anything besides GUI?
[21:27] <reisio> isomorphismes: like what?
[21:27] <david38400> kahtahs_, no, but will do
[21:28] <isomorphismes> I found it's installed on my EC2 server, and thinking I could probably remove it (to open up space).
[21:28] <isomorphismes> reisio: Basically I just mean — this is a terminal-only environment, can I apt-get remove unity ?
[21:28] <SigMa__> brainwash: i tried to start brltty without it, and it seemed to work, but sudo apt-get install -f gave the same error as before
[21:28] <reisio> isomorphismes: yeah if you want
[21:28] <david38400> kahtahs_, you see what I mean, I go to remove and it tells me I must remove libav-tools? Its ridiculous
[21:28] <isomorphismes> thanks reisio
[21:28] <reisio> isomorphismes: ubuntu-desktop is the whole thing
[21:29] <isomorphismes> reisio: oh great. and I guess compiz too?
[21:29] <reisio> libav is an alternative to ffmpeg
[21:29] <reisio> isomorphismes: I would think so, yes
[21:29] <isomorphismes> I was just owrried it might have like gvfs in it or something
[21:29] <kahtahs_> david38400: just do it and reinstall again
[21:29] <isomorphismes> or some other kinds of common files
[21:29] <kosmas> ubottu: Thanks but I have got Intel Graphics card and I have already tried the grub options. is there any specific that I should give a go?
[21:29] <brainwash> SigMa__: did you already try to reinstall brltty?
[21:30] <genii> isomorphismes: If you install things that for some reason want to also xserver stuff, xvfb is good to have on server machines
[21:30] <SigMa__> brainwash: yep, and the same error as before again
[21:30] <reisio> isomorphismes: it shouldn't
[21:30] <david38400> kahtahs_, thats what I have done, its now installed
[21:31] <kosmas> ubbotu: just run out of ideas.. any help please leave a comments on the thread.. Thanks!
[21:31] <kahtahs_> david38400: not sure what you expect when using unsupported packages and not like any debian based distro will not have the same problem
[21:31] <reisio> isomorphismes: might want aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop instead
[21:31] <brainwash> SigMa__: try to reinstall "mountall" which provides mountkernfs
[21:31] <david38400> kahtahs_, I didnt know I was using unsupported packages. I was always used to using debian packages.
[21:31] <SigMa__> brainwash: will do
[21:32] <david38400> kahtahs_, I always use the Ubuntu software or terminal
[21:32] <kahtahs_> david38400: there was a transitional ffmpeg package which should have guided you to libav in the past
[21:33] <SigMa__> brainwash: got an error off of than. ill thow up another pastebin
[21:33] <brainwash> SigMa__: then try to manually start the mountkernfs service, "sudo service mountkernfs start" or "sudo start mountkernfs"
[21:33] <david38400> kahtahs_, Thanks a lot for all your assistance. I will just have to put my desktop in the computer shop and ask them to reload as I cant get my bios to do it for me.
[21:33] <bazhang> !info handbrake | david38400
[21:34] <SigMa__> brainwash: http://pastebin.com/h1kC1qfm
[21:35] <brainwash> SigMa__: still the same error
[21:35] <SigMa__> brainwash: on the sudo service mountkernfs start i got mountkernfs: unrecognized service
[21:35] <brainwash> SigMa__: oh, could be mountkernfs.sh instead of just mountkernfs
[21:36] <SigMa__> brainwash: says the job is already running
[21:36] <kahtahs_> bazhang: handbrake and avconv/ffmpeg aren't really interchangeable. but at least handbrake depends should have forced update to libav not like winff
[21:37] <reisio> they are to a certain extent
[21:37] <bazhang> kahtahs_, sure they are. I've used them that way for ages.
[21:37] <reisio> but not universally
[21:37] <reisio> shmostly, though
[21:38] <brainwash> SigMa__: mmh, the setup process tries to run "sudo insserv -d mountkernfs.sh", run this command manually
[21:38] <jimmy51v_> I'm getting this when adding a PPA:  Failed to fetch: http://ppa.launchpad.net/chris-lea/node.js/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden
[21:39] <bazhang> jimmy51v_, contact the PPA maintainer
[21:39] <SigMa__> brainwash: insserv: command not found
[21:40] <SigMa__> brainwash: lets try and install that shall we
[21:40] <jimmy51v_> bazhang: it's doing it for multiple PPA's (that i know work)
[21:40] <jimmy51v_> hmm
[21:40] <bazhang> jimmy51v_, still contact the ppa's maintainer
[21:40] <jimmy51v_> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/lestcape/cinnamon/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden
[21:40] <jimmy51v_> ok
[21:41] <SigMa__> brainwash: damn, same error again
[21:41] <success> how can I find the absolute path to where I am from the shell?
[21:41] <brainwash> SigMa__: I guess I'm out of ideas then
[21:42] <OerHeks> jimmy51v_, do you have softwarecenter/synaptic open together with terminal-command ?
[21:42] <k1l> success: pwd
[21:42] <kahtahs_> bazhang: handbrake can do like 10% of what avconv can do, but those are 80% of the use cases for video
[21:42] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: i do not... this is chrooted into a new build
[21:42] <SigMa__> brainwash: yeah i have no clue lol. at lest i ive got a bit more of an idea of whats going on. thanks for the help!
[21:43] <brainwash> SigMa__: google may come up with some helpful search results :)
[21:44] <kahtahs_> bazhang: but agreed if you need a gui, do use handbrake
[21:44] <nanobot_> donde estas nada???
[21:45] <jjcm> Hmmm. I logged in to my server over the weekend to find my root password changed, my main account has been removed from the sudoers file, and /var/log/lastlog has been removed
[21:45] <bazhang> kahtahs_, there is a -cli package as well if you are so inclined
[21:45] <jjcm> It's probably fine, right guys?
[21:45] <k1l> jjcm: reinstall that server
[21:45] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: heh.  saw a google hit for someone having just installed squid having the same issue
[21:46] <OerHeks> proxy issue?
[21:46] <nanobot_> Na Da, te buscan en el pasillo 23... :P
[21:46] <jjcm> k1l: I'm thinking I'll upload a scanned pic of my drivers license and a text file containing my ss# and cc#'s
[21:46] <jjcm> k1l: no shit I'm gonna wipe that box
[21:47] <acerspyro> The fglrx driver does not work with the latest 3.16 kernel...
[21:47] <acerspyro> Or so it seems
[21:47] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: i dunno.  I just install the squid package for later use.  looks like it messes with your repos right away
[21:47] <k1l> acerspyro: the ubuntu repo driver?
[21:47] <acerspyro> k1l: No
[21:47] <acerspyro> k1l: Is it the same thing as the .run file?
[21:48] <k1l> acerspyro: so talk to amd if you talk about the amd site one
[21:48] <nanobot_> Na Da!!!!
[21:49] <nanobot_> @00.2.7x
[21:49] <k1l> acerspyro: it is the same like the one from the amd site but another version and its made compatible with ubuntu (and got stuff like not needing to be reinstalled after every kernel change)
[21:49] <OerHeks> jimmy51v_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/303150/apt-get-403-forbidden-but-accessible-in-the-browser
[21:49] <shibboleth> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin
[21:49] <acerspyro> lol
[21:49] <acerspyro> k1l: ok, let me remove the failed driver
[21:49] <k1l> acerspyro: so install the package fglrx from the ubuntu repo after you removed the one from their side
[21:49] <shibboleth> https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3055 <--- Any chance the package maintainer is present in here?
[21:50] <k1l> *site
[21:50] <k1l> shibboleth: see the bugs on launchpad.net and mark yourself affected and use the bug to talk to the maintainer
[21:51] <genii> shibboleth: Odds are not. Best way to get their attention is to file a bug as k1l indicates.
[21:52] <shibboleth> k1|: i see no relevant bugs
[21:53] <acerspyro> rebooting
[21:53] <shibboleth> Funny how OpenSSL, GnuTLS, Apple SSL *and* NSS have proven to have dodgy certificate verification post-Snowden
[21:53] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: yup.  i'm just going to can the proxy for now.  we'll get that figured out later (bigger fish to fry first)
[21:54] <shibboleth> Only MSFT left standing, how can that be....
[21:54] <genii> shibboleth: That's more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel than here
[21:55] <MojoSleepwalker> Hey, i have a question
[21:55] <k1l> shibboleth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/1386410
[21:55] <MojoSleepwalker> can someone help me?
[21:56] <bazhang> MojoSleepwalker, ask and see
[21:56] <shibboleth> k1l: nice
[21:56] <MojoSleepwalker> whats the postgres user? and can i del him?
[21:57] <bekks> MojoSleepwalker: It is the user your postgres database is running as.
[21:57] <bekks> If you delete it, your database gets unusable.
[21:57] <nanobot_> hello
[21:57] <MojoSleepwalker> but i havent installed the database
[21:57] <nanobot_> hello
[21:58] <nanobot_> hello
[21:58] <k1l> nanobot_: stop that!
[21:58] <k1l> !guidelines > nanobot_
[21:58] <nanobot_> sorry _(
[21:58] <k1l> nanobot_: its your 2nd chance. dont ruin that after you got kicked already
[22:00] <bekks> MojoSleepwalker: Keep it in this channel please.
[22:00] <MojoSleepwalker> can i autoremove postgres?
[22:00] <MojoSleepwalker> because i dont use a database
[22:00] <bekks> MojoSleepwalker: Thgen you can uninstall te postgres packages.
[22:01] <acerspyro> Nope, doesn't load and shows an error message when unity starts up
[22:01] <MojoSleepwalker> with autoremove?
[22:01] <acerspyro> And I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1288404
[22:04] <x_> ?
[22:04] <MojoSleepwalker> Has been settled :D thx
[22:07] <christoph> Hi
[22:08] <Avic> hello i'm installing ubuntu, does ubunto have nx server?
[22:08] <Avic> ubuntu*
[22:09] <karab44> I really like icons in menus but ubuntu has them soo ugly
[22:09] <karab44> (via ubuntu tweak)
[22:10] <bekks> Avic: No, you have to download it from NoMachine's website.
[22:10] <christoph__> Hi CS
[22:10] <Avic> :-/
[22:11] <Avic> i tryed and got out of the server, now i'm installing all again
[22:11] <bekks> Avic: Why ":-/"? Download and install it, done.
[22:11] <dfch> .wa 40000 rub in hkd
[22:11] <dfch> :|
[22:12] <Avic> i used this tutorial: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/a-guide-to-set-nomachine-nx-3-5-x-up-on-debian-wheezy-and-possibly-others-917816/ And end up not having the possibility to access the server anymore bekks
[22:13] <bekks> Avic: So you did something wrong. And I dont recommend any 3rd party tutorials for installing 4 deb packages.
[22:13] <Avic> :-/ i did something very wrong :(
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Avic: Is NX a requirement or would VNC work for you? VNC is much easier to setup, and uses more standard tools (which are available and supported in Ubuntu's repositories).
[22:14] <OerHeks> Avic, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NomachineNX tutor is old, version is 4.3.24_1
[22:15] <Avic> i used vnc, but heard than rdp was better anr nx even better. I has the KDE installed and accessing the server was a little lag.
[22:15] <Avic> i had*
[22:17] <rdornelas> ola
[22:17] <rdornelas> alguem aí?
[22:17] <Avic> o thanks :-)
[22:17] <mbrgm> hey everyone! which is the graphics device that x11 uses?
[22:17] <OerHeks> !english | rdornelas
[22:17] <rdornelas> gostaria de informações sobre ubuntu
[22:17] <Avic> não sabes falar em inglês?
[22:17] <mbrgm> I mean specifically the device file(s) in /dev
[22:17] <rdornelas> não
[22:17] <rdornelas> detesto a lingua inglesa
[22:18] <Avic> tens de falar em inglês.
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !pt | rdornelas
[22:18] <isomorphismes> thanks reisio
[22:18] <rdornelas> pq? se sou brasileiro
[22:18] <k1l> !br > rdornelas
[22:18] <Avic> neste canal...
[22:19] <rdornelas> os paises europeus todos os recursos disponiveis para compra tem que ser em portugues
[22:21] <k1l> rdornelas: this channel is english only. you were given channels in your language now. so please change to writing english in here or change the channel. thanks
[22:21] <rdornelas> kill english language
[22:22] <rdornelas> português é nossa lingua
[22:31] <abuayyoub_>  skippy and jittery. I updated to the newest kernel, tried to kill PulseAudio I tried some other fixes I found online but nothing seems to fix it.
[22:33] <acerspyro> It's all good now.
[22:33] <acerspyro> Hm
[22:33] <acerspyro> It keeps showing the "system problem detected" dialog box
[22:34] <acerspyro> idk where it went.
[22:34] <acerspyro> nvm then :P
[22:35] <l0rdn1x> I want to make an as is ISO that will require no internet connection, it will just give me my system without the /home/ directory can't seem to find any useful links online that make any sense, anyone have any suggestions?
[22:37] <karl> hello. Anyone know how to install LOL on ubuntu via garena?
[22:37] <AlexPortable> How can I update virtualbox to 4.3.13?
[22:38] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: may i ask why? it might help me understand what you're looking to achieve better
[22:39] <ender_> help i lost my clock and in my settings its all blacked out but on and ui just updated to 14.10LTS
[22:39] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, upgrade to utopic 4.3.18, trusty comes with 4.3.10
[22:39] <karl> daftykins: this is karl. the one you're helping with regarding installation of linux.
[22:39] <OerHeks> !info virtualbox
[22:39] <karl> i made it already
[22:40] <karl> thanks for your help btw :)
[22:40] <l0rdn1x> daftykins: I do some work on different machines but I don't like to use their operating system,  I'm going to dump my entire system on a 16GB drive while excluding my large music collection so that I basically have a portable custom live cd.
[22:40] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: well trusty = 14.10 ?
[22:40] <karl> Thank you so much daftykins :)
[22:40] <OerHeks> yes
[22:40] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: i would just conduct an install to the flash drive, to run from
[22:40] <OerHeks> no utopic is
[22:41] <AlexPortable> ah
[22:41] <AlexPortable> Well that one isn't LTS
[22:41] <daftykins> karl: ah great, problem all resolved then? i must admit i can't quite remember which that was :)
[22:41] <k1l> AlexPortable: trusty = 14.04 = lts
[22:41] <l0rdn1x> daftykins: yes that's what I'm going to do, however want it to be an exact duplicate with everything I have setup you know custom packages etc..
[22:42] <karl> haha. it was just last 2 nights i guess. your memory is getting blurry because you're helping a lot of peaple. Thanks again :)
[22:42] <daftykins> karl: yep too many 'customers' ;) glad it worked out! enjoy :)
[22:42] <karl> sure thanks :)
[22:43] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: as Linux is a file system orientated OS, you could just duplicate things by rsync'ing the install to the flash drive, then reinstalling GRUB to the flash drive, potentially
[22:44] <AlexPortable> OerHeks:  so what should I do ?
[22:44] <AlexPortable> i prefer to stay on 14.04 lts
[22:44] <aaleiva93> hi
[22:45] <daftykins> aaleiva93: hello, do you have a question?
[22:45] <AlexPortable> rww just got serious
[22:45] <AlexPortable> virtualbox 4.3.12 changelog: 3D support: several fixes, including better support for Ubuntu 14.04
[22:45] <AlexPortable> why isn't 4.3.12 in ubuntu?
[22:45] <daftykins> because packaging takes time.
[22:45] <AlexPortable> how long?
[22:46] <daftykins> i don't know how it works. consider adding virtualbox's PPA if you want newer
[22:46] <rww> AlexPortable: rww was doing op work :P
[22:46] <k1l> AlexPortable: in general, there are no package updates. only security and heavy bugfixes are backported.
[22:46] <daftykins> but obviously standard PPA advice applies
[22:47] <wally__> como instalar los plugins en mozilla firfox en xubuntu 11.1
[22:47] <AlexPortable> ppa advice?
[22:47] <daftykins> !ppa
[22:48] <AlexPortable> !addppa
[22:48] <AlexPortable> !ppa-purge
[22:48] <wally__> alguien de nicaragua
[22:48] <AlexPortable> wally__: spreek je nederlands?
[22:48] <rww> AlexPortable: .ni, not .nl
[22:48] <rww> wally__: English here, please.
[22:49] <AlexPortable> rww: I know, but he started talking in his native language, so I just replied to him in my native language :P
[22:49] <rww> ah
[22:49] <AlexPortable> rww: can I pm you?
[22:49] <k1l> !es | wally__
[22:49] <rww> AlexPortable: nope. Op questions to #ubuntu-ops.
[22:50] <AlexPortable> do you happen to be dutch?
[22:50] <rww> no
[22:51] <squinty> AlexPortable:  might also want to consider just grabbing the deb (4.3.18) from oracle virtualbox site (https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads) along with an Extension Pack.  Usual cavets pertaining to installing outside of the standard repo's applies if course
[22:51] <AlexPortable> .deb or ppa?
[22:51] <AlexPortable> what's a better solution?
[22:52] <squinty> one that suits *your* needs of course
[22:52] <rww> neither is supported, so *shrug*
[22:52] <AlexPortable> No I mean
[22:52] <AlexPortable> .deb also gets updates?
[22:52] <k1l> AlexPortable: .deb is a one time install. you need to take care of that. PPA means you can get updates if the maintainer takes care of that. but he could push any software he wants on to your system
[22:52] <AlexPortable> or only ppa?
[22:53] <AlexPortable> what do you mean push any software he wants?
[22:54] <k1l> AlexPortable: since you triggered the bots messages already its not the time to read them and the links they provided :)
[22:55] <AlexPortable> k1l: doesn't says anything about any other software on my system
[22:56] <k1l> AlexPortable: you need to trust the PPA maintainer that its the program in that PPA that you actually wanted to be in there.
[22:56] <k1l> AlexPortable: we cant guarantee that and will not support that in here. so its your choice.
[22:56] <AlexPortable> so .deb is safer?
[22:57] <chick_> Hi I have been using ubuntu 14 for a month now and suddenly my login password seems not working I  cant login unless as a guest cos it keeps asking me to login
[22:57] <k1l> AlexPortable: well. .deb means (in most cases) you dont get updates at all. so its your task to keep that in mind for security or bug fixes.
[22:58] <chick_> what can I do to recover my account?
[22:58] <daftykins> chick_: forgive the idea, but it's nothing as simple as caps lock being on?
[22:58] <AlexPortable> so there is no good solution?
[22:58] <k1l> chick_: does it say wrong password?
[22:58] <AlexPortable>  .deb requires manually updating every time, ppa allows the maintainer to install anything he wants, ubuntu won't update the virtualbox version for 14.04
[22:59] <AlexPortable> I prefer the windows way then.
[22:59] <AlexPortable> Each application has it's own update mechanism
[22:59] <k1l> AlexPortable: there are good solutions. its only what you want to choose
[22:59] <Jordan_U> chick_: My guess is that it's not that your password isn't working, it's that your gnome session is immediately crashing. What options do you have for sessions at the login screen?
[22:59] <chick_> No it shows a dark screen and asks me to login. when i type a wrong password it shows the error wrong password
[23:00] <k1l> possible .Xauthority owned by root issue, due to messing with sudo
[23:00] <daftykins> this sounds more like a TTY than X
[23:01] <k1l> chick_: go to tty (ctrl+alt+f1) log into there, see if .Xautority belongs to root:root ("ls -al"), if so chown it to user:user back again, then come back to gui with ctrl+alt+f7
[23:01] <chick_> Jordan_U:  im not sure i understand what you mean by options
[23:05] <Jordan_U> chick_: It doesn't really matter since you are explicitly seeing an error that tells you your password is wrong.
[23:05] <Jordan_U> chick_: Are you sure that you have the correct username entered/selected?
[23:06] <k1l> Jordan_U: i think on explicit wrong pw it says wrong pw. else black screen
[23:06] <chick_> Jordan_U: this girl is sure with her passphrase
[23:06] <k1l> i bet its .Xauthority owned by root
[23:07] <chick_> k1l: please how can I fix this
[23:07] <k1l> chick_: first validate like i said before
[23:07] <Jordan_U> chick_: If it's not too much work, please grab a camera[phone] and take a picture of your login screen just before pressing the login button, and then again showing the error message.
[23:07] <k1l> chick_: loginto tty and see with "ls -al" if that is owned by root
[23:08] <k1l> l> chick_: go to tty (ctrl+alt+f1) log into there, see if .Xautority belongs to root:root ("ls -al"), if so chown it to user:user back again, then come back to gui with ctrl+alt+f7
[23:08] <slowmc> join /debian
[23:08] <Conte_> ciao
[23:08] <k1l> slowmc: /join #channel
[23:08] <slowmc> k1l : typo, my bad
[23:16] <hulio> can someone tell me what is the issue here: install.sh: 15: install.sh: ./Unlocker.Linux64: Permission denied
[23:17] <hulio> i am doing this: sudo sh install.sh
[23:17] <Jordan_U> hulio: We'll need more information. What is your end goal?
[23:17] <Tripel1Truth> death
[23:17] <hulio> i am trying to do vmware unlocker
[23:18] <Tripel1Truth> the end of every goal comes a life achievement. when goals are set, you put ahead your mind into the future. when goals are finished, you realise the success you made.
[23:18] <Jordan_U> hulio: By "do vmware unlocker" do you mean install a piece of software called "vmware unlocker"? If so, what does vmware unlocker do?
[23:18] <reisio> Jordan_U: it removes arbitrary requirements vmware has out of the box
[23:19] <reisio> like not allowing you to run vmware on certain hardware, even though it runs fine on that hardware
[23:19] <reisio> hard coding that makes no sense, basically
[23:19] <reisio> if (foo) { sorry, you can't run this on foo, because: {no_reason} }
[23:19] <chick_> k1l: I went to tty and .Xauthgority  is owned by root I dont know what it means
[23:20] <l0rdn1x> lol
[23:20] <reisio> hulio: is Unlocker.Linux64 in the same dir?
[23:20] <k1l> chick_: ok, that is the cause for you not able to login.
[23:20] <chick_> k1l: what next should i do?
[23:20] <hulio> reisio, same dir
[23:21] <hulio> reisio, do you have teamviewer?
[23:21] <reisio> hulio: you might just 'sudo su', and then try it
[23:21] <k1l> chick_: go to tty again and login to that user. then do "sudo chown user:user .Xauthority" replace "user" with the username you logged in
[23:21] <reisio> hulio: mmm, it'd be a pain for me to use it ATM
[23:21] <hulio> reisio, i did that also, got same issue
[23:21] <reisio> wouldn't help anyways
[23:21] <k1l> chick_: after that press ctrl+alt+f7 and try to login
[23:22] <reisio> hulio: chmod +x Unlocker.Linux64 ?
[23:23] <hulio> let me try
[23:23] <Jordan_U> reisio: hulio: Running "sudo su" first shouldn't help at all, and is certainly the wrong solution.
[23:24] <jcstarken> Hello all just a quick question how to clear up video play back in firefox and chrome 14.04 lts
[23:24] <reisio> Jordan_U: we past shouldn't a while back
[23:24] <reisio> jcstarken: is it cloudy?
[23:24] <jcstarken> reisio: yes
[23:24] <hulio> reisio, great
[23:24] <hulio> chmod +x works
[23:25] <hulio> reisio, thanks mucho my dear friend
[23:25] <reisio> jcstarken: what does that mean?
[23:25] <reisio> hulio: coo
[23:25] <hulio> is there a way not to have path: keep on adding directory?
[23:26] <jcstarken> reisio: not clear cloudy fuzzy blurry
[23:26] <hulio> when i have deep directories.. my path is full on the screen.. it's annoying
[23:26] <Rastart> oh please help me.
[23:26] <hulio> in ubuntu can it be always say    >      no matter what folder you're in?
[23:26] <leonic12> ohow can i changue a read only file system ?
[23:26] <Rastart> i made a mistake while formatting,I interrupted the process suddenly.
[23:27] <Jordan_U> hulio: PS1='> ' #Though I highly recommend against that particular choice of prompt
[23:27] <Rastart> now I can't format it no more but luckily it recognizes the device.
[23:27] <Rastart> it started to make weird sounds.
[23:28] <think> Rastart: like a clicking sound?
[23:28] <Rastart> I don't want to put my hard-disk in the trash
[23:28] <Jordan_U> hulio: Since '> ' is generally the secondary prompt, $PS2, I would highly recommend against setting $PS1 to '> '. Setting PS1 to '$ ' would make a lot of sense though.
[23:28] <Rastart> yeah like a click but sometimes it makes a really soft bip.
[23:28] <Rastart> beep.
[23:28] <Rastart> ^^
[23:28] <Jordan_U> hulio: PS1='$ ' # Will give you a nice, non-problematic static prompt see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt for more information
[23:29] <reisio> jcstarken: blurry?...
[23:29] <jcstarken> reisio: not clear  I do not know how else to explain
[23:29] <Rastart> its like click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click beep click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click  beep click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click
[23:29] <Rastart>  click click click click click click beep etc.
[23:30] <think> Rastart is that coming directly from the hdd?
[23:30] <Rastart> not regular.
[23:30] <reisio> jcstarken: how about a screenshot
[23:30] <hulio> reisio, thanks man, i got vmware working fine :)
[23:30] <Rastart> think, yeah directly from the hdd
[23:30] <reisio> hulio: yayzville
[23:31] <reisio> I still need to play with vmware unlocker
[23:31] <reisio> stupid vmware
[23:31] <hulio> reisio, btw, the most useful app for me in ubuntu is Nero 4.  it's the best burner software
[23:31] <SimonKing> haha
[23:31] <reisio> hulio: nah, cdrkit/growisofs is
[23:31] <think> Rastart: :( sounnds like the click of eath
[23:31] <think> death*
[23:32] <Rastart> I think is not because...let me explain what I've done.
[23:33] <Rastart> I deleted partition and started the format process.
[23:33] <reisio> clicks are nothing to fear, as you have a backup already, right? :p
[23:33] <reisio> but they are an annoying sound
[23:33] <Rastart> i chosen the wrong one the faster safe one. i prefered to make the longer one
[23:33] <Rastart> i stopped it in seconds.
[23:34] <Rastart> it still recognize the hard disk
[23:34] <daftykins> what format command?
[23:34] <Rastart> now it does click beep click beep click beep
[23:34] <Rastart> it changed
[23:35] <daftykins> and these sounds survive a power cycle?
[23:35] <Rastart> is there some program that can recover it?
[23:35] <Rastart> i don't need data.
[23:35] <Rastart> I only need to repair partition.
[23:36] <daftykins> Rastart: can you respond please?
[23:36] <acerspyro> fglrx does not provide the library usually linked by -lGL, where would I get it?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Rastart: Clicking sounds, depending on exactly what they sound like, usually indicate a hardware problem. If you have a hardware problem with your hard drive, that can't be fixed by software (and wasn't caused by software either).
[23:36] <Rastart> oh i done by interface.
[23:36] <Rastart> the disk stuff
[23:37] <Rastart> how to view it in terminal?
[23:37] <daftykins> view what?
[23:37] <daftykins> you didn't reply to my two questions yet
[23:37] <jcstarken> reisio: how can I make sure that I am running best drivers for video
[23:38] <Rastart> daftykins I dunno what a power cycle is.
[23:38] <daftykins> has this disk been turned off and on again?
[23:39] <Rastart> i haven't done it by terminal so no command.
[23:39] <daftykins> i'm talking about _power_
[23:39] <daftykins> is it in a laptop or desktop? has it been switched off
[23:40] <reisio> jcstarken: what's your graphics device?
[23:40] <Rastart> Jordan_U I'm pretty sure that can be fixed..I need some quick help with terminal please.
[23:41] <Rastart> how to detect devices connected in terminal?
[23:41] <jcstarken> reisio: AMD 7580 or something like that it is running off the processor
[23:41] <Rastart> hdd.
[23:41] <Rastart> sda,sdb etc.
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Rastart: sudo lsblk
[23:41] <jcstarken> reisio: it has a gig a ram dedicated to it
[23:41] <daftykins> Rastart: how did you format? you mentioned quick vs. slow, was this a Windows format?
[23:41] <reisio> jcstarken: what driver are you using
[23:42] <jcstarken> reisio: what ever came with the install of 14.04 lts
[23:43] <reisio> jcstarken: k, you might try fglrx, then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[23:43] <Rastart> ok it doesn't find it now.
[23:44] <daftykins> Rastart: you seem to be ignoring my questions.
[23:44] <Rastart> how to see if there is some device that is not mounted?
[23:44] <Rastart> yeah ntfs
[23:45] <Rastart> not window...
[23:45] <jcstarken> reisio: thank you what is fglrx
[23:45] <Rastart> compatible with many os.
[23:45] <Rastart> yeah i made the safe method..
[23:45] <reisio> jcstarken: another driver, the one from the manufacturer
[23:45] <daftykins> Rastart: right so what was the format tool? run "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:45] <jcstarken> reisio: thank you
[23:45] <Rastart> that is for big hdds..
[23:46] <daftykins> Rastart: it doesn't make any difference
[23:46] <Rastart> and i though i made wrong and wanted to make the slow one...
[23:46] <Rastart> so i interrupted it.
[23:46] <daftykins> you're not making any sense and you're not answering me :)
[23:47] <Rastart> the format tool is the gnome-disk-utility 3.10.0-1ubuntu3
[23:48] <Rastart> daftykins i'm trying to reply you sorry.
[23:48] <daftykins> Rastart: so since attempting this format, has the system ever been switched off?
[23:49] <Rastart> I already formatted with this and worked all the times..great and easy tool.
[23:49] <jcstarken> reisio: Sorry one more question, what do you believe would be best option for the Radeon HD 7480D in 14.04lts
[23:49] <daftykins> Rastart: alright so what does "sudo fdisk -l" show?
[23:49] <reisio> jcstarken: something that doesn't make your video 'fuzzy'
[23:49] <Rastart> yeah but after already interrupting the process.
[23:50] <Rastart> that not happened because of a system switch off...but because of a manual interruption of the process..i clicked the button to interrupt process..
[23:50] <Rastart> and it did.
[23:51] <daftykins> i'm not saying that
[23:51] <Rastart> !pastebin
[23:51] <Rastart> :P
[23:51] <Rastart> wait.
[23:51] <daftykins> i'm trying to ask if the strange sounds still occur after the drive has lost power and has been started again
[23:51] <daftykins> but you keep avoiding a very basic question, which is getting very frustrating
[23:52] <Rastart> (one other question...is there a way to temporaly translate terminal language in english?
[23:53] <Rastart> )
[23:53] <Jordan_U> Rastart: Please respond to all questions asked to you. Even if the response is just "I don't understand the question." or "I don't know.".
[23:53] <daftykins> !it | Rastart maybe you should try here
[23:53] <Rastart> yeah it occur always.
[23:53] <hoi> hello
[23:53] <hoi> how can i enable .htaccess on apache2?
[23:54] <hoi> i've tried multiple tutorials, but none works
[23:54] <Rastart> when i switch off and switch on again, it keep doing it.
[23:54] <EriC^^> hoi: in the apache2 config file
[23:54] <hoi> okay, btu what do i edit?
[23:54] <a_> hi
[23:55] <Rastart> it tells me that this is a partition problem as i though.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Rastart: export LANG=C
[23:55] <EriC^^> hoi: edit AllowOverride None to AllowOverride All
[23:55] <hoi> ok thx bye
[23:55] <Jordan_U> Rastart: That will make any future commands run within that shell give their output in English.
[23:55] <a_> i used the docker image ubuntu:14.04 and installed openssh-server and firefox on it
[23:56] <a_> then iconnected to the container with x11 forwarding enabled
[23:56] <a_> when i started firefox, all of my bookmarks were there
[23:56] <daftykins> ok...
[23:57] <a_> does someone knows the reason for that, i am quite confused
[23:57] <Jordan_U> a_: How did you start firefox?
[23:57] <a_> i typed firefox in the docker container
[23:57] <EriC^^> a_: why wouldn't they be there?
[23:57] <Rastart> Jordan_U it doesn't work.
[23:58] <EriC^^> a_: the bookmarks are saved in your home directory i think
[23:58] <reisio> yes, they're in ~/.mozilla/
[23:59] <a_> EriC^^, yes and thats the problem. the container should be fully seperated from the host