| bluesabre | you bet I was | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ochosi | poke what? | 00:00 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: nvm, you're free to go | 00:01 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:01 |
| ochosi | anyway, i'm quite happy with how productive today's sprint was | 00:01 |
| ochosi | so kudos to everyone | 00:01 |
| ochosi | i'll have to set the next meeting soon, then we can see whether there's anything left to discuss | 00:02 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: have you seen the new MR by andrew for the greeter yet? | 00:02 |
| ochosi | so many options... | 00:06 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: haven't seen it yet | 00:28 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: actually, those look like nice improvements | 00:31 |
| ochosi | yeah, they are, it's just such a high level of customizability | 00:31 |
| ochosi | (keeping in mind that it's "just a greeter") | 00:32 |
| skellat | greeterD | 00:33 |
| bluesabre | right... eventually we'll run out of things to add though ;) | 00:34 |
| ochosi | heh | 00:34 |
| ochosi | as long as things are still stable, i'm fine with it anyway | 00:34 |
| ochosi | btw, i saw an odd bug about the greeter spawning new indicator processes with each login/logout | 00:35 |
| ochosi | sounds annoying for machines that run in public places with many users logging in and out each day | 00:35 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I think there might be a fix in the queue for that one | 00:36 |
| ochosi | oh cool | 00:39 |
| ochosi | that'd be relevant also for ll2.0 | 00:39 |
| ochosi | imagine un/locking restarting indicators... | 00:39 |
| ochosi | i mean spawning indicators each time | 00:40 |
| ochosi | not really sure how ll2.0 and indicators are going to work anyway | 00:40 |
| ochosi | anyway, night all! | 00:43 |
| bluesabre | night ochosi | 00:43 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: so, any regressions likely by swapping evince to evince-gtk, or should we probably wait for the huge 3.14 drop? | 00:44 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: I have no idea, Gnome isn't something to predict. I don't see -gtk picking up any new ones though, Debian still has it. | 01:24 |
| bluesabre | ok | 01:25 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: And, you may want to talk to Corsac as well. | 03:23 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, We already have evince 3.14, so it's unlikely anything will break form it | 05:11 |
| knome | added a mention of the release notes to near the top at http://xubuntu.org/help/ | 10:56 |
| ochosi | folks, have any of you seen this sort of corruption in evince? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-10-27-124835.php | 11:49 |
| ochosi | (seems related to ubuntu patching out the headerbars and faking a toolbar instead) | 11:49 |
| elfy | ochosi: yea - can confirm that 3.14.1 in vvampire | 13:28 |
| elfy | get a bunch of this, which looks familiar in a terminal (evince:12247): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_show: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed | 13:30 |
| elfy | bbl | 13:30 |
| ochosi | elfy: hmpf, uncool. we could test whether it's there in evince-gtk too | 13:47 |
| ochosi | hmpf, yeah, at least in U the corruption happens for both evince and evince-htk | 14:05 |
| ochosi | gtk | 14:05 |
| bluesabre | that looks annoying... is that new with an updated theme? it looked fine when I tested earlier | 14:42 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: yeah, it is. if i open evince without a file, it looks fine. if i open a pdf, i get this sorta corruption | 15:06 |
| ochosi | installed Ub2 and then upgraded | 15:06 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: any news re bug 1382977 ? | 15:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1382977 in thunar "Thunar open default not respecting mimetype" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382977 | 15:26 |
| brainwash | did you or anyone else test the fix from upstream? | 15:27 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - so I removed evince, installed -gtk | 15:39 |
| elfy | when I start it - no corruption as you, then open 1 and no corruption, open another and get corruption | 15:40 |
| ochosi | elfy: yeah, silly bug :/ | 15:41 |
| elfy | yep | 15:41 |
| ochosi | the upside seems to be that evince-gtk seems to work just as well/badly as evince | 15:41 |
| elfy | and re the mimetype issue above - if thunar in vampire includes the upstream fix - then it appears to be ok as I don't get the same thing now here | 15:42 |
| elfy | ochosi: does this evince issue have a bug report or need one? | 15:42 |
| ochosi | it doesn't have one yet | 15:43 |
| ochosi | i've been pinging some folks in u-desktop about it, to see whether it appears in unity too | 15:43 |
| elfy | ok - I'll do one - start with LP | 15:43 |
| ochosi | just to know what to file it against (shimmer-themes or evince) | 15:43 |
| ochosi | okeydokey, thanks! | 15:43 |
| elfy | I can confirm or deny in unity first then :) | 15:43 |
| ochosi | you have unity installedß | 15:44 |
| ochosi | ? | 15:44 |
| elfy | no - but I tend to - when *we* get some issues I like to confirm in unity so I can hassle balloons :p | 15:44 |
| ochosi | ok :) | 15:44 |
| * ochosi hasn't tried unity in years | 15:44 | |
| elfy | it's only ever a vm | 15:44 |
| elfy | it is better than it was seemingly - but I don't use it for long enough to really tell | 15:45 |
| elfy | oh | 15:47 |
| elfy | odd | 15:47 |
| elfy | ochosi: so do you see it with all pdf's? | 15:49 |
| ochosi | humm, i haven't noticed a pattern | 15:49 |
| ochosi | it just seemed to pop up randomely | 15:49 |
| ochosi | have you? | 15:49 |
| elfy | not seeing a pattern | 15:49 |
| ochosi | mka | 15:50 |
| ochosi | y | 15:50 |
| elfy | but if I rollup the title bar and then roll down a corrupted one is then uncorrupted | 15:50 |
| ochosi | yeah, which is why i think it's just a gtk rendering issue | 15:50 |
| ochosi | and i still suspect it's connected to that headerbar patch | 15:50 |
| ochosi | the only way to find out for sure would be to try evince 3.14 from upstream | 15:50 |
| ochosi | maybe there's a gnome3 ppa with evince with headerbar... | 15:51 |
| elfy | I'll get unity installed for the moment as I'll need it eventually anway | 15:52 |
| ochosi | elfy: the stuff in "discussion" on the meeting page has actually been discussed, right? | 15:53 |
| ochosi | so if you don't mind, i'd take it off there to clear space for the next meeting | 15:53 |
| ochosi | unless there is stuff to be kept around | 15:53 |
| elfy | yep - fine to clear that | 15:53 |
| ochosi | ok, ty | 15:54 |
| ochosi | !team | halloweeny meeting on friday, 11 utc | 15:58 |
| ubottu | halloweeny meeting on friday, 11 utc: bluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 | 15:58 |
| elfy | might still be awake :) | 15:59 |
| elfy | or might be unable to type ... | 15:59 |
| ochosi | :) | 16:01 |
| elfy | ochosi: radiance theme in unity http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-271014-163954.php | 16:41 |
| elfy | let me know how you want me to about reporting it | 16:41 |
| knome | ochosi, ^ added to calendar | 17:40 |
| knome | ochosi, and that's 11am, right? | 17:40 |
| elfy | oh | 18:01 |
| elfy | silly me - assumed sensible time at night | 18:01 |
| knome | hehe | 18:03 |
| Unit193 | He linked to the clock that said AM. | 18:03 |
| knome | i'm not paying attention! | 18:03 |
| knome | :P | 18:03 |
| elfy | while this whole moving feast time is great - I wonder about the sense in having one person run 3 out of 9 | 18:04 |
| elfy | and someone else 2 out of 9 | 18:04 |
| slickymasterWork | well, at least it won't crash with dinner time | 18:05 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, lol, because everything else you can move around except EATING | 18:06 |
| knome | ;) | 18:06 |
| slickymasterWork | when my kid is with me is sort of difficult to move meals | 18:07 |
| slickymasterWork | one thing that always works great with younger kids is routines knome | 18:07 |
| knome | i was just teasing | 18:09 |
| Unit193 | And, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72yoqybvl1qgbyhko1_500.gif | 18:10 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah, I know :) | 18:10 |
| slickymasterWork | lol Unit193, quite right, she is | 18:11 |
| knosys | hello | 18:30 |
| Unit193 | Looks like a short meeting, too bad I can't attend and make it shorter. :D | 18:58 |
| elfy | lol | 18:58 |
| knome | http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2014/10/26#2014-10-26-moving-on-but-not-too-far | 20:12 |
| elfy | yea read that | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | Linked to yesterday ^. Sum up, LP only, or tiny bugs. | 20:13 |
| knome | i actually consider that a good thing | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | Stepping down before burning out fully? Or getting rid of cjwatson? :P | 20:14 |
| knome | not because he's now away from development, but because him working "full-time" on launchpad is (hopefully) going to be awesome | 20:14 |
| knome | and stepping down before burnout too | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | Right, but really stinks for Ubuntu. | 20:14 |
| knome | does it? | 20:14 |
| knome | and do you mean ubuntu or ubuntu desktop :) | 20:14 |
| knome | going to eat some, back after that | 20:14 |
| ochosi | yes, am | 20:26 |
| ochosi | not pm | 20:26 |
| * Unit193 PMs ochosi. | 20:27 | |
| ochosi | bbiab | 20:27 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/a0y78WkRnO7oeqkiuYF4/ | 21:27 |
| knome | sighj | 21:39 |
| knome | -j | 21:39 |
| Unit193 | Yeeep, but at least it's the same one as last time I pasted, and not a new one! | 21:42 |
| Unit193 | knome: Did you fix it? | 21:45 |
| Unit193 | knome: We can blame slickymaster if you didn't, because he's docs lead! :D | 21:46 |
| knome | i didn't, but maybe i should look at it | 21:46 |
| knome | Unit193, is there a quick way for you to check who has done those translations? | 21:55 |
| knome | Unit193, especially the ones that bring the translated tags? | 21:56 |
| knome | would like to tell the contributor to stop doing that because obviously we can't run after them and fix stuff all the time | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | Think so on LP. | 22:08 |
| knome | https://launchpad.net/~franciscomol | 22:20 |
| knome | also has done </ application> | 22:20 |
| knome | i don't know if it's ok to leave spaces like that | 22:20 |
| knome | and another semi-annoying thing is that he's leaving spaces inside the tags | 22:21 |
| knome | i mean... | 22:21 |
| knome | <application> App name </application> | 22:21 |
| knome | bluesabre, slickymaster: docs branch for vivid set up | 22:31 |
| knome | Element placeholder-2 in namespace '' encountered in guimenuitem, but no template matches. | 22:35 |
| knome | ^ for PT too | 22:35 |
| knome | tut tut, slickymaster | 22:35 |
| knome | Unit193, should running 'make' in the docs root clean up lang directories under desktop-guide ? | 22:40 |
| Unit193 | make clean? | 22:47 |
| knome | aha | 22:47 |
| knome | :) | 22:47 |
| knome | now, why does the makescript need to give me silly line numbers | 22:48 |
| knome | like 315 | 22:48 |
| knome | i know that's the virtual line number for that spot in the whole documentation, but it's not too useful | 22:48 |
| knome | Unit193, oh! have you noticed that if you s/--postvalid/--valid/ in scripts/validate.sh, you actually get the context too? | 23:14 |
| knome | wonder if there's any reason to keep --postvalid as the default argument? | 23:15 |
| Unit193 | Never tried. | 23:15 |
| knome | /home/knome/Downloads/es.po | 23:15 |
| knome | eh | 23:15 |
| knome | --postvalid Validate after parsing is completed. | 23:15 |
| Unit193 | (Also not always sure what's different/uncommitted here. :P ) | 23:15 |
| knome | oh, yeah | 23:16 |
| knome | it fails the IDREF attrs | 23:16 |
| knome | >__< | 23:16 |
| Unit193 | Makefile, debian/control, desktop-guide/Makefile, scripts/translate.sh, scripts/validate.sh, and my own wrapper, I see. | 23:16 |
| knome | you should do a MP for all the improvements you have stacked there. | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | "improvements", hah. :D | 23:17 |
| * knome shakes head | 23:19 | |
| * Unit193 be hacking up the buildsystem. | 23:20 | |
| bluesabre | hey all | 23:21 |
| Unit193 | knome: http://paste.openstack.org/show/0nnq42t16hbMea43TRHb/ nothing groundbreaking, and the one is an attempted fix for the current problem, but doesn't fix it. | 23:22 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Also, hello. | 23:22 |
| knome | Unit193, do a MP, i'll merge them today so you can keep hacking | 23:23 |
| knome | hey bluesabre | 23:23 |
| Unit193 | knome: Should have bluesabre magically fix it. | 23:24 |
| * bluesabre is a bit busy through Friday | 23:24 | |
| Unit193 | :( | 23:25 |
| knome | Unit193, all of the validation fails in es.po was from the same user | 23:27 |
| knome | and all of them was basically that tags were translated | 23:27 |
| knome | hmm, now pt also magically validates | 23:29 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/XYdFzBsMMIinNNlVFqjB/ new one. | 23:54 |
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