[00:00] you bet I was [00:00] poke what? [00:01] ochosi: nvm, you're free to go [00:01] :) [00:01] anyway, i'm quite happy with how productive today's sprint was [00:01] so kudos to everyone [00:02] i'll have to set the next meeting soon, then we can see whether there's anything left to discuss [00:02] bluesabre: have you seen the new MR by andrew for the greeter yet? [00:06] so many options... [00:28] ochosi: haven't seen it yet [00:31] ochosi: actually, those look like nice improvements [00:31] yeah, they are, it's just such a high level of customizability [00:32] (keeping in mind that it's "just a greeter") [00:33] greeterD [00:34] right... eventually we'll run out of things to add though ;) [00:34] heh [00:34] as long as things are still stable, i'm fine with it anyway [00:35] btw, i saw an odd bug about the greeter spawning new indicator processes with each login/logout [00:35] sounds annoying for machines that run in public places with many users logging in and out each day [00:36] yeah, I think there might be a fix in the queue for that one [00:39] oh cool [00:39] that'd be relevant also for ll2.0 [00:39] imagine un/locking restarting indicators... [00:40] i mean spawning indicators each time [00:40] not really sure how ll2.0 and indicators are going to work anyway [00:43] anyway, night all! [00:43] night ochosi [00:44] Unit193: so, any regressions likely by swapping evince to evince-gtk, or should we probably wait for the huge 3.14 drop? [01:24] bluesabre: I have no idea, Gnome isn't something to predict. I don't see -gtk picking up any new ones though, Debian still has it. [01:25] ok [03:23] bluesabre: And, you may want to talk to Corsac as well. [05:11] bluesabre, We already have evince 3.14, so it's unlikely anything will break form it [10:56] added a mention of the release notes to near the top at http://xubuntu.org/help/ [11:49] folks, have any of you seen this sort of corruption in evince? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-2014-10-27-124835.php [11:49] (seems related to ubuntu patching out the headerbars and faking a toolbar instead) [13:28] ochosi: yea - can confirm that 3.14.1 in vvampire [13:30] get a bunch of this, which looks familiar in a terminal (evince:12247): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_show: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed [13:30] bbl [13:47] elfy: hmpf, uncool. we could test whether it's there in evince-gtk too [14:05] hmpf, yeah, at least in U the corruption happens for both evince and evince-htk [14:05] gtk [14:42] that looks annoying... is that new with an updated theme? it looked fine when I tested earlier [15:06] bluesabre: yeah, it is. if i open evince without a file, it looks fine. if i open a pdf, i get this sorta corruption [15:06] installed Ub2 and then upgraded [15:26] bluesabre: any news re bug 1382977 ? [15:26] bug 1382977 in thunar "Thunar open default not respecting mimetype" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382977 [15:27] did you or anyone else test the fix from upstream? [15:39] ochosi: ok - so I removed evince, installed -gtk [15:40] when I start it - no corruption as you, then open 1 and no corruption, open another and get corruption [15:41] elfy: yeah, silly bug :/ [15:41] yep [15:41] the upside seems to be that evince-gtk seems to work just as well/badly as evince [15:42] and re the mimetype issue above - if thunar in vampire includes the upstream fix - then it appears to be ok as I don't get the same thing now here [15:42] ochosi: does this evince issue have a bug report or need one? [15:43] it doesn't have one yet [15:43] i've been pinging some folks in u-desktop about it, to see whether it appears in unity too [15:43] ok - I'll do one - start with LP [15:43] just to know what to file it against (shimmer-themes or evince) [15:43] okeydokey, thanks! [15:43] I can confirm or deny in unity first then :) [15:44] you have unity installedß [15:44] ? [15:44] no - but I tend to - when *we* get some issues I like to confirm in unity so I can hassle balloons :p [15:44] ok :) [15:44] * ochosi hasn't tried unity in years [15:44] it's only ever a vm [15:45] it is better than it was seemingly - but I don't use it for long enough to really tell [15:47] oh [15:47] odd [15:49] ochosi: so do you see it with all pdf's? [15:49] humm, i haven't noticed a pattern [15:49] it just seemed to pop up randomely [15:49] have you? [15:49] not seeing a pattern [15:50] mka [15:50] y [15:50] but if I rollup the title bar and then roll down a corrupted one is then uncorrupted [15:50] yeah, which is why i think it's just a gtk rendering issue [15:50] and i still suspect it's connected to that headerbar patch [15:50] the only way to find out for sure would be to try evince 3.14 from upstream [15:51] maybe there's a gnome3 ppa with evince with headerbar... [15:52] I'll get unity installed for the moment as I'll need it eventually anway [15:53] elfy: the stuff in "discussion" on the meeting page has actually been discussed, right? [15:53] so if you don't mind, i'd take it off there to clear space for the next meeting [15:53] unless there is stuff to be kept around [15:53] yep - fine to clear that [15:54] ok, ty [15:58] !team | halloweeny meeting on friday, 11 utc [15:58] halloweeny meeting on friday, 11 utc: bluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, skellat, slickymaster, Unit193 [15:59] might still be awake :) [15:59] or might be unable to type ... [16:01] :) [16:41] ochosi: radiance theme in unity http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-271014-163954.php [16:41] let me know how you want me to about reporting it [17:40] ochosi, ^ added to calendar [17:40] ochosi, and that's 11am, right? [18:01] oh [18:01] silly me - assumed sensible time at night [18:03] hehe [18:03] He linked to the clock that said AM. [18:03] i'm not paying attention! [18:03] :P [18:04] while this whole moving feast time is great - I wonder about the sense in having one person run 3 out of 9 [18:04] and someone else 2 out of 9 [18:05] well, at least it won't crash with dinner time [18:06] slickymasterWork, lol, because everything else you can move around except EATING [18:06] ;) [18:07] when my kid is with me is sort of difficult to move meals [18:07] one thing that always works great with younger kids is routines knome [18:09] i was just teasing [18:10] And, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72yoqybvl1qgbyhko1_500.gif [18:10] yeah, I know :) [18:11] lol Unit193, quite right, she is [18:30] hello [18:58] Looks like a short meeting, too bad I can't attend and make it shorter. :D [18:58] lol [20:12] http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2014/10/26#2014-10-26-moving-on-but-not-too-far [20:12] yea read that [20:13] Linked to yesterday ^. Sum up, LP only, or tiny bugs. [20:13] i actually consider that a good thing [20:14] Stepping down before burning out fully? Or getting rid of cjwatson? :P [20:14] not because he's now away from development, but because him working "full-time" on launchpad is (hopefully) going to be awesome [20:14] and stepping down before burnout too [20:14] Right, but really stinks for Ubuntu. [20:14] does it? [20:14] and do you mean ubuntu or ubuntu desktop :) [20:14] going to eat some, back after that [20:26] yes, am [20:26] not pm [20:27] * Unit193 PMs ochosi. [20:27] bbiab [21:27] http://paste.openstack.org/show/a0y78WkRnO7oeqkiuYF4/ [21:39] sighj [21:39] -j [21:42] Yeeep, but at least it's the same one as last time I pasted, and not a new one! [21:45] knome: Did you fix it? [21:46] knome: We can blame slickymaster if you didn't, because he's docs lead! :D [21:46] i didn't, but maybe i should look at it [21:55] Unit193, is there a quick way for you to check who has done those translations? [21:56] Unit193, especially the ones that bring the translated tags? [21:56] would like to tell the contributor to stop doing that because obviously we can't run after them and fix stuff all the time [22:08] Think so on LP. [22:20] https://launchpad.net/~franciscomol [22:20] also has done [22:20] i don't know if it's ok to leave spaces like that [22:21] and another semi-annoying thing is that he's leaving spaces inside the tags [22:21] i mean... [22:21] App name [22:31] bluesabre, slickymaster: docs branch for vivid set up [22:35] Element placeholder-2 in namespace '' encountered in guimenuitem, but no template matches. [22:35] ^ for PT too [22:35] tut tut, slickymaster [22:40] Unit193, should running 'make' in the docs root clean up lang directories under desktop-guide ? [22:47] make clean? [22:47] aha [22:47] :) [22:48] now, why does the makescript need to give me silly line numbers [22:48] like 315 [22:48] i know that's the virtual line number for that spot in the whole documentation, but it's not too useful [23:14] Unit193, oh! have you noticed that if you s/--postvalid/--valid/ in scripts/validate.sh, you actually get the context too? [23:15] wonder if there's any reason to keep --postvalid as the default argument? [23:15] Never tried. [23:15] /home/knome/Downloads/es.po [23:15] eh [23:15] --postvalid Validate after parsing is completed. [23:15] (Also not always sure what's different/uncommitted here. :P ) [23:16] oh, yeah [23:16] it fails the IDREF attrs [23:16] >__< [23:16] Makefile, debian/control, desktop-guide/Makefile, scripts/translate.sh, scripts/validate.sh, and my own wrapper, I see. [23:17] you should do a MP for all the improvements you have stacked there. [23:17] "improvements", hah. :D [23:19] * knome shakes head [23:20] * Unit193 be hacking up the buildsystem. [23:21] hey all [23:22] knome: http://paste.openstack.org/show/0nnq42t16hbMea43TRHb/ nothing groundbreaking, and the one is an attempted fix for the current problem, but doesn't fix it. [23:22] bluesabre: Also, hello. [23:23] Unit193, do a MP, i'll merge them today so you can keep hacking [23:23] hey bluesabre [23:24] knome: Should have bluesabre magically fix it. [23:24] * bluesabre is a bit busy through Friday [23:25] :( [23:27] Unit193, all of the validation fails in es.po was from the same user [23:27] and all of them was basically that tags were translated [23:29] hmm, now pt also magically validates [23:54] http://paste.openstack.org/show/XYdFzBsMMIinNNlVFqjB/ new one.