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xubuntu035hello01:52
xubuntu035i need help01:52
xubuntu035my screen moves along with my mouse every time i move it01:53
xubuntu035i seem to be suffering from "pan and scan"01:54
xubuntu035 need help to fix01:54
bluesabrexubuntu035 already left, but sounds like he scroll-zoomed... if he comes back, ALT+ScrollDown02:08
nomic'scroll zoomed' .. some facility for the blind?02:46
nomiclol02:46
nomicone of those strange system states where you need it reversed & can't see anything to get it reversed02:47
nomicearlier I wrecked my PATH .. was flailing for some minutes02:47
richkenhello05:31
dmionicaHi there. I'm having a problem with the latest LTS version of both ubuntu and xubuntu, I'm guessing it's related to network manager. PPTP VPN connections don't seem to work. Does anyone know any workaround for this?10:16
koegsdmionica: what exactly is not working? did you check the syslog for error messages?10:17
dmionicakoegs, there is nothing in the syslog, it just shows the animation when it's trying to connect, and then a balloon appears saying that "The VPN Connection <myvpn> failed to connect."10:20
dmionicakoegs, should I check a special location for logs?10:21
dmionicaI have configured a working PPTP vpn connection on an earlier version of ubuntu before, however when I installed the latest one it doesn't work anymore.10:23
koegsdmionica: last time i have tested PPTP-VPN was in 14.04 and it was working10:25
koegsand i see a lot of messages in /var/log/syslog as soon as i start the VPN via nm-applet10:26
dmionicai'll check again10:26
dmionicaoh, right, it does show some messages10:27
koegsjust checked again, at least in 14.04 it is still working :)10:28
xubuntu07whey there10:29
dmionicabut it doesn't connect, either with the setting "use the connection only for the resources on the network" set or not set. everything else is exactly as it was before...10:29
xubuntu07wi'm trying to launch latest xubuntu distro in my virtualbox and suddenly this happens: http://i.imgur.com/qc0S3No.png10:29
xubuntu07wwtf?10:29
koegsxubuntu07w: my solution was to disable 3D-Support, dont know if there is another solution :)10:30
xubuntu07wunchecked10:30
xubuntu07wthe first massage is http://i.imgur.com/P3Fz9pK.png10:31
dmionicakoegs, it says "timeout sending config-requests", and then "connection terminated", after that network manager: vpn plugin failed10:31
koegsdmionica: is the IP correct? i just had the same message and i realized that i did use a wrong IP10:32
xubuntu07wso, no solution :(10:33
dmionicakoegs, it does say connection established at first, so the IP is probably correct (and I use a ddns), but after that it just stalls and fails10:33
knomexubuntu07w, bug 1378423 ?10:33
ubottubug 1378423 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Virtualbox boots to black screen or corrupted screen with daily" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137842310:34
koegsdmionica: do you use 14.04 or 14.10?10:35
dmionica14.0410:35
dmionicathe LTS version10:35
koegshmk, i am not sure why it times out10:36
xubuntu07wyes, that bug10:38
xubuntu07wthis is stable i386 image btw10:39
koegshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/541006/ubuntu-14-10-does-not-install-in-virtualbox10:40
koegsmaybe this helps10:40
knomexubuntu07w, next time, take five minutes to read the release notes; they usually note this kind of known issues10:42
xubuntu07wright10:43
xubuntu07wthat answer works fine10:43
xubuntu07wand now we wait...for like 10 minutes http://i.imgur.com/2NMSiic.png10:48
xubuntu07where it goes10:49
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Naphatulhow do i set my terminal to support 256 colors?14:33
Naphatulif i set it to xterm-256color it says: *** VTE ***: Failed to load terminal capabilities from '/etc/termcap'14:33
GridCubeNaphatul: xfce4-terminal already supports 256 colors14:34
NaphatulGridCube, well mine doesn't14:35
GridCubeyou probably need to restore your .bashrc to defaults then14:39
NaphatulGridCube, is the default one from /etc/skel?14:40
GridCubeno idea whats that, i mean the .bashrc file from your ~/14:40
Naphatulwhere's default one stored?14:41
GridCubein you home14:45
Naphatulno i have a custom one in my home, you said the default .bashrc enabled 256 colors14:46
GridCubeno, i said you probably needed to restore the defaults, if you have changed them youserlf then i have no idea14:49
dirty__\help15:32
ObrienDavewith?15:33
Alexfrenchhello all16:17
ObrienDaveGreetings & Welcome16:19
elsieboyhi all! just a quick question. I want to put some commands that execute every time I log in in a file. I know that this goes in a script in my home directory. But I'm just confused about which one? .bash_profile, .bashrc, etc .... what's the difference?17:04
dkesselelsieboy: use bash_profile if you want to execute stuff once per login17:15
elsieboythanks!17:15
dkesselUse .bashrc if you want to execute it every time you start a terminal17:15
elsieboydkessel just want to disable this obnoxious trackpad17:15
elsieboyah that makes sense17:15
elsieboyso .bashrc is executed in every new terminal window or tab?17:16
elsieboydkessel: got to run, thanks for your help!17:19
optrazhow to upgrade?17:31
optrazto latest xubuntu17:32
slickymasterWorkwhich version are running now optraz?17:32
slickymasterWork+ you17:32
optraz14.04.1 LTS17:33
Alexfrenchi prefer to wait17:33
optrazhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu no upgrade section17:33
optrazhmmm17:33
optrazwhat happened?17:33
Alexfrenchi ve seen on forum in france error with black screen17:34
holsteinoptraz: lts's upgrade to other lts's..17:34
holsteinoptraz: you wont be offered an automatic upgrade til 16.04, unless, you change the settings in the upgrade software, or manually upgrade17:35
slickymasterWorkif you want to upgrade to 14.10 optraz, open System Settings>Software and Updates>Updates tab and make sure that you have chosen "For any new version" in the panel "Notify me of a new version of Ubuntu.17:35
optrazholstein: i upgrade everytime there is upgrade17:35
optrazokay17:35
optrazgot it17:35
holsteinoptraz: sure.. and feel free to do so.. though, i suggest you fresh install or stay on 14.0417:35
optrazholstein: what happened to the xubuntu?17:35
optrazwhy cant i upgrade now?17:35
holsteinoptraz: becuase you are on 14.04. and you will not be automatically offered an upgrade til 16.0417:35
holsteinoptraz: *if* you want to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10, you change the settings mentioned by slickymasterWork above17:36
optrazyes, changing17:36
holsteinoptraz: thats how you change the default settings and upgrade to 14.10 instead of the default LTS only setting17:36
slickymasterWorkthen, after that just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to update your sytem17:37
optrazokay, setting is changed. so it is *safe* to upgrade , yes?17:37
slickymasterWorkoptraz: ^^17:37
slickymasterWorkafter updating your system, run sudo do-release-upgrade~17:37
holsteinoptraz: i already stated, i prefer a fresh install, or staying on the LTS.. *none* of the software comes with any safety guaranee, and cant..17:37
holsteinguarantee*17:37
optrazalright17:38
holsteini find, personally, a fresh install from live iso allows me to see how the newer kernel is supported by my hardware, and takes much less time.. and give me an excuse to do a proper backup of my system17:38
holsteinoptraz: plan for totaly failure, since,*all* hard drives fail, and you will be completely safe.. you should plan for that at all times on any operating system17:38
optrazthis box has been upgrading since 2006 i believe17:39
optrazor later 200-200817:39
optrazdont want fresh install :)17:39
holsteinoptraz: sure.. and that hard drive, as well as *every* other one, *will* fail.. so, back it up and feel safe.. you should backup before upgrading..17:39
holsteinoptraz: you can do whatever you like. and should.. but, you should backup before whatever you choose to do.17:39
optrazokay.. maybe i wait a few more weeks before doing upgrade.17:40
optrazmaybe 1-2months17:40
holsteinoptraz: no. thats not the point17:40
holsteinoptraz: its "Stable".. and wont become any more stable.17:40
optrazok17:40
holsteinoptraz: you should backup regardless of what operating system you are running or updating or upgrading17:41
ConfusedUser1984Hi, folks.  Got a quick question/situation.  A moment ago, I ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.  Everything was working in the terminal, when suddenly this appeared:  http://pastebin.com/uS0vY2mN17:41
knomeConfusedUser1984, that's probably just ok.17:42
ConfusedUser1984Is that pastebin something I should be worried about?17:42
ConfusedUser1984Ok, then17:42
Hedgework ConfusedUser1984 I wouldn't worry about it unless you have problems with your system not recognizing mime types you use, in which case we can help you troubleshoot.17:42
ConfusedUser1984Last inquiry- I have not been a Xubuntu user for long.  When Vista SP2 was on this system, it didn't overheat and shutdown as if I held the power button.  Is Xubuntu 14.04 resource heavy enough to cause such overheating?  Should I revert to maybe Precise Pangolin?17:43
ConfusedUser1984Hedgework: How would I determine this?17:43
HedgeworkConfusedUser1984: If you try to double-click something in the file manager and have trouble associating it with a program that will open it, that would be an easy symptom to notice.17:44
HedgeworkConfusedUser1984: As far as overheating, without knowing your machine or your usage habits, I cannot tell you if that is likely to be an issue.  However, if you do have heat problems, I'm probably the one to talk to.  I'm known for doing crazy-big compiles and heavy DB operations on underpowered laptops while sitting in the park watching my son play. :)17:45
HedgeworkIt's *amazing* what you can do with marginal hardware if you are stubborn enough about it. :)17:46
Hedgework(the park was relevant because it was often 90F out)17:47
ConfusedUser1984I watch movies and play a MUD, occasionally with Skype and/or Chromium open- most often to Youtube, but when I'm doing that, the movies aren't playing.  I have a HP dv6000 laptop.  I have psensor installed, and when I have Skype up and simply OPEN a browser, it jets to nearly 100 degrees Celsius.17:49
ConfusedUser1984I cannot really get into a power management situation, I don't know how to code or anything, either.  But I feel I may be able to do something, just not sure what.17:50
ConfusedUser1984So, basically I used a MUD Client, Mudlet, Chromium, and Skype.17:51
ConfusedUser1984And that's about it17:51
Alexfrenchand what about simply clean your laptop, clean fan ??17:52
ConfusedUser1984Aside from bursting the canned air into vents, I'm not confident enough to disassemble my laptop to clean it more thorough.17:52
HedgeworkConfusedUser1984: You don't have to code to pay attention to heat management.  HP laptops are known for being bad in that regard, but there are things you can do:17:55
ConfusedUser1984I'll all ears, man.17:55
ConfusedUser1984Or, rather, eyes >.>17:55
HedgeworkConfusedUser1984: Start by cleaning, as Alexfrench said.  If you aren't confident enough to do it, you can probably find a local computer shop to do so for a few bucks.  Dust and dirt are GREAT insulators.17:56
HedgeworkConfusedUser1984: Then, on the software side, you minimize processor usage to control heat (and disk usage, but most laptops have more heat problems from the proc than the disk)...17:57
Alexfrenchmy hp dv7 laptop was full of dust pricipaly the fan17:57
ConfusedUser1984So cleaning, and potentially cleaning/applying more thermalpaste?17:58
Alexfrenchand made noise17:58
Hedgeworkyep17:58
ConfusedUser1984How can I reduce proc usage17:58
ConfusedUser1984Simply cease using stuff like Skype?17:58
Alexfrenchi was not able to break it in pieces so with smalls tools i remove dust from the pales of the fan17:59
HedgeworkConfusedUser1984: Most MUD clients I've used are pretty lightweight, so that's unlikely to be a problem.  Skype is a hog, but as long as you avoid doing video chats while also doing something else processor intensive, it's not too bad.  I try to minimize using it at all, but that's mostly because I find it annoying...17:59
ConfusedUser1984Right.17:59
Alexfrenchand a vacuum cleaner with small pipe and it help a lot17:59
HedgeworkConfusedUser1984: Youtube is MUCH less processor intensive if you use HTML5 instead of flash to view videos, but you may lose the ability to fullscreen videos doing it that way...at least it was the case when last I tried (I have not done youtube in years)17:59
ConfusedUser1984I heard that there is a program that allows you to sign in with skype and even video chat with less usage.17:59
HedgeworkI don't know about that...I don't use skype except at work, and there I just use the official client.18:00
ConfusedUser1984Ah, I was scouring the Skype forums18:02
ConfusedUser1984Apparently if there is a process explorer, I can terminate one of the processes without causing instability with skype,  can anyone recommend one of those?18:03
Alexfrenchyou could to, buy a external fan like this18:03
Alexfrenchhttp://www.amazon.fr/dp/B002SGATH8/ref=asc_df_B002SGATH821962809/?tag=googshopfr-21&creative=22698&creativeASIN=B002SGATH8&linkCode=df018:03
ConfusedUser1984Will do, then!18:06
ConfusedUser1984Thanks guys!18:06
knosysheynhey18:30
xubuntu64wHello, I would like to ask for help with NetworkManager. NetworkManager is not autorun on xubuntu startup after upgrading to 14.10 version. I could only manually start it with "sudo NetworkManager". It looks like network-manager daemon is not working, when I try "network-manager status" nothing happens.19:04
xubuntu64wmaybe this could help? marko@marko-Vostro-1500:/etc/init.d$ bash -x network-manager  + PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin + DESC='network connection manager' + NAME=NetworkManager + DAEMON=/usr/sbin/NetworkManager + PIDFILE=/var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid + SCRIPTNAME=/etc/init.d/network-manager + test -x /usr/sbin/NetworkManager + . /lib/lsb/init-functions +++ run-parts --lsbsysinit --li19:08
slickymasterWork!pastebin | xubuntu64w19:09
ubottuxubuntu64w: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:09
Unit193xubuntu64w: Generally speaking the init script won't be used, the upstart job will.19:09
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ManicPanic##php21:37
abuayyoub_Hello everyone, can someone please help me. I just installed Ubuntu a few days ago and My sound is all wacky. It's skippy and jittery. I updated to the newest kernel, tried to kill PulseAudio I tried some other fixes I found online but nothing seems to fix it.22:31
knomeabuayyoub_, xubuntu or ubuntu?22:32
abuayyoub_xubuntu22:32
abuayyoub_knome, Xubutu. I updated to the latest kernel, I tried everything I can find22:34
abuayyoub_but no go22:34
knomeElement placeholder-2 in namespace '' encountered in guimenuitem, but no template matches.22:35
knomesorry, wrong channel22:35
abuayyoub_knome, do you have any idea what the problem might be?22:35
knomei'm not very familiar debugging sound issues22:36
abuayyoub_Ok22:36
Unit193abuayyoub_: If you killed pa and want it to stay dead, you have to turn off autospawn.22:48
abuayyoub_Unit193, hi, yea I did that. dosent seem to help :(22:58
xubuntu47wHi, the weather widget on xubuntu tls is broken. Is there a work around?23:03
xubuntu47ws/lts/tls/23:05
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137761223:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 1377612 in Xfce4 weather plugin "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Medium,Confirmed]23:07
xubuntu47wUnit193: I saw that, but it seems to be a dead end for 14.04.1 as far as I have been able to go.23:52
Unit193For some reason it's still stuck in -proposed, right.  It should be landing in -updates, but for some reason hasn't yet.23:53
xubuntu47wyeah23:53
xubuntu47wseems like it is fixed for 14.1023:53
xubuntu47wbut not for lts :(23:54

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