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ScottKRiddell: Do we know what Qt5 version we need for Vixen?03:53
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Quintasanshadeslayer: ping06:48
QuintasanChrist, kded4 leaks memory06:51
valoriehi Quintasan, how's life?06:56
Quintasanvalorie: Well, mostly university stuff.06:56
Quintasan3 management courses this semester so I'm dying mentaly here.06:57
valoriehaving fun and working hard?06:57
valorieah06:57
valorieboo06:57
valoriewe miss you too06:57
Quintasanmentally*06:57
QuintasanI wish I could pass the whole course at once since it's HTML & CSS06:59
QuintasanBut why would they relive me of the tediousness of going to laboratories each Friday at 07:3006:59
valoriethere is always a certain amount of crappy, onerous, totally silly requirements07:00
valorie"you must suffer, since we had to suffer"07:00
QuintasanAnd we have to use SVN to turn in the assignements lol07:01
valorieoh, that's lovely07:03
valorieso turn-of-the-century07:03
valoriethey've not heard of git?07:03
Tm_Twhy not use svn if it works for their needs?07:06
Quintasanvalorie: The prof does know about git but he said people won't understand it.07:07
apacheloggerTm_T: it couldn't possibly work for their needs considering it requires special server-side software and is dreadfully slow07:07
QuintasanTm_T: Well, At first I thought university is supposed to teach good practices.07:08
apacheloggersvn never works for anyone07:08
apacheloggernevaaaaaaaaaaaar07:08
QuintasanAfter some time I thought it's about teaching anything07:08
QuintasanNow I'm not even sure what's this about.07:08
valoriesometimes it's just making it through and getting the piece of paper07:08
valorieseems like education is often what you yourself provide07:09
Quintasankded why you leak memory so much07:09
Tm_TQuintasan: and using SVN isn't good practice when it needs requirements?07:12
Tm_TI would prefer git too, sure, I just don't see svn as some kind of a monster07:13
soeegood morning07:13
Quintasansoee: Hi07:13
Tm_Tmoin soee07:13
valorieneither do I, Tm_T07:13
valorieafter all KDE is still using it for some things07:13
valorieit is the past not the future though07:14
QuintasanTm_T: It's not like I'm saying that SVN is a monster, I'm just saying that most people and projects use git.07:14
QuintasanHell, even the company I worked as a contractor used git and it's old as hell.07:14
Tm_Tvalorie: true, I have learned universities are in the past most of the time though07:14
Tm_Tsvn, git, they're just tools, both can be used to teach the ideas of version control, continuous commits etc07:15
valoriethat's fine for classics, history, literature.... but not science!07:15
Tm_TI keep nagging about "commit often" to our developers here at the office, brrrrh07:15
Quintasanapachelogger: Do you recall any magic switches for valgrind if one is trying to debug kded?07:16
apacheloggerQuintasan: there is a blog post on the matter of findingin memleaks in kded07:18
QuintasanSplendid.07:19
QuintasanWhat07:19
QuintasanI killed kded and icons in my tray suddenly have colours.07:19
Quintasan...do not tell me that kded applies the colour overlay07:19
apacheloggerhttp://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kde-workspace-apidocs/plasma-workspace/html/statusnotifierwatcher_8cpp_source.html07:24
shadeslayerRiddell: why build without systemd support?! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next/+sourcepub/4480867/+listing-archive-extra07:26
apacheloggeryeah07:26
apacheloggerRiddell: why not write useful changelogs? :P07:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: FWIW it might actually have to do witht he fact that if built with systemd I think sddm will use entirely differnt code paths07:27
shadeslayerI am unsure, that was introduced on the 21st and stuff worked before that on the iso's?07:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: pong?07:29
Quintasanshadeslayer: Was trying to debug kded4 for memleaks and IIRC you said something about it07:30
Quintasanhow the hell is --leak-check=full invalid option07:31
apacheloggerif yer not using memcheck it might just be07:32
shadeslayer^^07:32
QuintasanAh the joys of copypasting lines.07:35
QuintasanThis one had --tool=massif, makes perfect sense now07:35
apacheloggerso clearly valgrind was correct when it said your option is shit :P07:36
QuintasanHell if I know if it's leaking memory now, it's taking 606 MiB07:36
lordievaderGood morning.08:06
bukai__Riddell: ping08:25
Riddellhi bukai__ 09:10
RiddellScottK: no we don't, plasma team pondered if it was reasonable to require qt 5.4 in plasma 5.2 and didn't come up with an answer so delayed the decision09:11
bukai__Hi, I have set up the ssh key should i mail it to you? 09:26
bukai__Riddell: ^^09:27
Riddellbukai__: put it on your launchpad account is usually easiest09:30
bukai__I have done that too09:31
sgclarkmorning09:33
bukai__Riddell: the public key is in my launchpad account09:34
Riddellbukai__: url?09:43
Riddellhi sgclark, how was helping Sick_Rimmit yesterday?09:43
sgclarkRiddell: we made progress. Got to symbols and then he ran out of time. Will continue tomorrow probably.09:44
soee!package kde-telepathy09:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about package kde-telepathy09:46
bukai__ https://launchpad.net/~subho020m 09:47
bukai__Riddell: ^09:50
Sick_RimmitHI Riddell09:57
Sick_RimmitYes it went very well, I learned alot09:58
Sick_RimmitShe is very patient09:58
shadeslayerRiddell: so what's with the sddm no systemd situation?09:58
Sick_RimmitI have almost got the build of libkpeople working09:58
Sick_RimmitWill try to complete by myself this evening,09:58
Sick_Rimmitam plpanning to hook up with sgclark tomorrow to review09:59
Sick_RimmitHopefully will have it  all correctly packaged 09:59
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Riddellshadeslayer: we don't use systemd so it doesn't build with systemd10:23
Riddellshadeslayer: I turned it off explicity incase it was thinking we had systemd incorrectly and that was the cause of logging problems but I don't think it made any difference10:23
shadeslayerRiddell: well it causes stuff to break with people who boot with systemd10:31
shadeslayerBug https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next/+sourcepub/4480867/+listing-archive-extra10:31
shadeslayerErm10:31
shadeslayerBug 138440110:32
ubottubug 1384401 in Kubuntu PPA "sddm does not start with systemd" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138440110:32
shadeslayerRiddell: maybe want to revert that ?10:32
shadeslayerOr comment on that bug report 10:32
Riddellshadeslayer: it can't be a straight revert that would cause it not to use vt710:39
Riddellso that patch would need to be added back10:39
Riddellthe other question is why doesn't the log file contain anything on the live image10:40
Riddellor why didn't it when we were using ubiquity-dm10:40
shadeslayerCan be fixed via the minTerm config thingy10:40
Riddellyes or that10:40
Riddellbukai: preferred username?10:40
Riddellbukai: hmm you shouldn't be root user when making ssh keys I'm sure10:41
bukaiRiddell: I was not aware of that10:42
shadeslayerRiddell: anyway, mind investigating ?10:42
bukaiRiddell:  will that be a problem?10:42
shadeslayerbukai: usually sudo isn't required for most of the things that you would do10:42
bukaishadeslayer: Ok , I will keep it in mind next time.10:44
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Riddellbukai_: no it's a general issue not one specific with ssh keys, you shouldn't be using root in general as a security precaution10:45
Riddellbukai_: anyway what preferred username?10:45
bukai_Riddell:  subho020m10:46
Riddellbukai_: ssh subho020m@docs.kubuntu.org10:50
bukai_Thanks , how do I use this to get access to the code off test.kubuntu,co,uk?10:55
Riddellgood question10:58
Riddellit's somewhere in ~kubuntu10:58
Riddellbukai_: nope seems to be in /home/ovidiu-florin/kubuntu_wordpress10:59
Riddellbukai_: would you like to set it up on the server or on your home computer?11:00
bukai_on my computer11:01
Riddellbukai_: aye so grab those files and you should be able to do a mysqldump using the details in wp-config.php11:02
bukai_ok, I will start with it. Once i find the code.11:02
Riddellbukai_: it's in /home/ovidiu-florin/kubuntu_wordpress11:03
sgclarkunless it is owned by world (very bad) I suspect permission problems will arise getting that code...11:08
sgclarkshouldnt it be in some VCS somewhere?11:09
Riddellit's owned by ovidiu, should be world readable11:11
bukai_Thanks, I will setting up the code11:26
Riddellanyone want to go to the tech board at 17:00UTC today? I'm away11:34
BluesKajHey folks11:38
Tm_Twho can grant me access to https://trello.com/b/3s11MoXD/15-0411:48
RiddellTm_T: I probably can although I'm not sure how11:49
Tm_Theh11:49
RiddellTm_T: have you logged on?11:50
Tm_TI was going to move sddm comments from email discussions and here to card so it doesn't get lost11:50
Tm_Tand yes I'm there as logged in user11:50
Tm_TTm T (tmt1)11:50
Tm_Tdon't know why it did pull that 1 there11:50
RiddellTm_T: I think I just added you11:52
Tm_Tyou did, thanks (:11:52
soeeuh oh add kde-telepathy to todos :)11:55
Riddellif the kde-telepathy developers work out when it'll get released11:57
Riddellalthough there is 0.9 we need to do11:57
Tm_Tbtw do we have any Kubuntistas in London area?11:57
Riddelldon't think so11:58
* Riddell upgrades to vivid12:00
sgclarkRiddell: still have to finish patch manpages to submit upstream.. this surely needs to be tested please kfunk https://launchpad.net/~sgclark/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu/+packages qwt...12:00
sgclarkvivid is in a usable state?12:01
soeeRiddell: yes i was talking about 0.912:02
Riddellsgclark: I guess I'll soon find out :)12:02
sgclarklol12:03
Riddellsgclark: remind me again what manpages to submit upstream are?12:03
* sgclark waits12:03
sgclarkRiddell: oh a mile of manpage lintian errors and the manpages are indeed broken in that qwt package.12:03
kfunksgclark: testing12:04
sgclarkRiddell: so I am making a patch to submit upstream, but fighting with quilt was making this package take way to long, so at least it can be tested in the meantime12:04
sgclarkthanks kfunk, may be a second for it to publish12:04
kfunkhm?12:05
Riddellsgclark: he's still testing! don't publish yet it might still blow up his machine!12:05
sgclarkkfunk: wait a few, the successful build has not published sorry, I was too quick on asking to test12:05
Riddelloh I see12:05
Riddellit might still blow up launchpad12:06
kfunkhm. weird. installing libqwt-dev from there wants me to instal qtbase5-gles-dev12:08
kfunkinstalling that one results in a lot of "unmet dependencies"12:09
kfunk(which then tries to remove qtcreator and friends)12:09
sgclarkit would not build without that dep12:09
sgclarkack12:09
sgclarkwell12:09
sgclarkI can disable opengl support..12:09
Riddellhang on gles is arm only generally12:10
sgclarkstrange thing is it would build without gles on pbuilder and chroot but not launchpad12:10
sgclarkkept barfing12:10
Riddellso don't build with gles on normal architectures use normal gl12:10
sgclarkRiddell: no qt5 opengl that I can see12:12
kfunkyep. I think depending on gles doesn't make sense here altogether12:12
kfunklibqt5opengl5-dev <- sgclark12:12
sgclarkthans12:13
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sgclarkkfunk: new and improved qwt ready12:44
Riddell\o/12:44
kfunksgclark: qwt.prf ends up in the wrong directory12:50
kfunkit's now /usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/features/qwt.prf, but should be in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/mkspecs/features/12:50
kfunknot sure how to fix that within qwt's build system, however12:50
kfunkmaybe that needs post-patching the install location in the deb12:51
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kfunksgclark: second concern: are you sure you can call that "libqwt6"? won't that clash with the Qt4 version?12:52
sgclarkkfunk: are they suppose to be coinstallable? Riddell: ideas? ^12:53
sgclarkkfunk: looking into prf issue12:54
kfunksgclark: I've got no clue how to handle these kind of things at a package manager level :/12:54
sgclarkkfunk: this package has been a learning experience for me... I am used to KDE packages12:54
sgclarkthanks for testing though12:55
Riddellsgclark: I've no idea depends on how it's set up13:03
Riddellsgclark: is it 1 source which can compile as both qt4 and qt5 ?13:03
sgclarkRiddell: looks like 6.1+ does support both13:09
* shadeslayer pulls his hair out13:09
kfunklibqwt6-qt5 and libqwt6?13:10
kfunkat least that's the convention in ubuntu land, isn't it?13:11
Riddellyep13:13
sgclarkok13:13
Riddelland rename the source to upload twice13:13
sgclarkstill have to work out .prf.13:13
Riddellassuming we still want the qt4 version13:13
Riddellthat's a file for qmake, put it in -dev 13:14
sgclarkquilt hates me13:14
Riddellwhat are you patching?13:14
* Riddell looks at telepathy 0.9.013:16
sgclarkRiddell: patching out the qwtconfig.pro that is putting the prf files in the wrong place and instead trying -spec switch to qmake instead unless you have a better idea?13:18
Riddellwith qmake I rarely have good ideas13:19
sgclarkok, giving this a shot.13:20
kfunkQwt has a weird build system anyway13:30
sgclarkugh13:30
kfunkyou need to touch .pro files in order to actually modify behavior13:30
kfunk*shrug*13:30
sgclarkyeah don't think this is going to work. 13:31
* sgclark thinks13:31
sgclarkkfunk: right, but getting into ARCH dependent variable in the pro file is where things are going wrong. The options they provided do not have that result. So I need to find some system level variable, My knowledge is not that great on this stuff yet. But I am determined...13:34
Riddellsgclark: would it work to just move the .pro files after build in the .install files ?13:41
Riddelld_ed: ktp fail http://paste.kde.org/pkff1iedc13:41
sgclarkRiddell: if all else fails, that is the plan13:42
Riddellsgclark: where it wanting to put them?13:42
Riddellsgclark: did you say you'd updated libkpeople?13:44
sgclarkRiddell: /usr/local/qwt-6.1.1/features which I knew was wrong so I put in with all the other mkspecs, but kfunk says that is wrong so I am trying to put in the ARCh dependent lib directory, it is the ARCH bit that is fumbling me, but I will get it. somehow13:45
RiddellSick_Rimmit: you've done libkpeople?13:49
Sick_RimmitRiddell: Not yet, have KDE Symbols mismatch to patch, will try to build again this evening13:51
Riddellah cool13:53
RiddellSick_Rimmit: what made you do libkpeople? was it needed for something?13:53
Sick_Rimmitsgclark: Picked it up from Launchpad I believe13:53
Riddellok cool13:54
sgclarkRiddell: had a needs-packaging tag13:54
Sick_RimmitI think the reason for that, was it would be a good starter for me13:54
RiddellSick_Rimmit: well now I need it for kde-telepathy 0.9.0 so don't let me down :)13:54
Riddellyeah I just want to make sure we're not duplicating work13:54
RiddellI've just compiled it locally for now without any packaging13:54
sgclarkbleh forgot to update bug to in-progreess, sorry13:55
Riddelloh maybe I should do that for a kde-telepathy bug13:55
sgclarkSick_Rimmit: a note for future packages :) ^ update launchpad bug if there is one13:56
kfunksgclark: 13:56
kfunkQWT_INSTALL_FEATURES  = $${QWT_INSTALL_PREFIX}/features13:56
kfunk# QWT_INSTALL_FEATURES  = $$[QT_INSTALL_PREFIX]/features13:56
kfunkin qwtconfig.pri13:56
kfunkyou probably need to switch these13:56
sgclarkkfunk: been there, it puts it in /usr/features...13:56
kfunkcrap13:56
sgclarkheh13:57
sgclarkI am going to try and export the QMAKESPEC variable before build, wish me luck heh13:57
RiddellI'd be tempting to just move it in the .install file13:57
kfunkyeah.13:58
kfunkdidn't you have the same issue for the qt4 version?13:59
* sgclark has never packaged this before13:59
kfunkhm, there /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/features/ is correct13:59
rdietersgclark: I came up with this for fedora's qwt packaging, http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/qwt.git/tree/qwt-6.1.0-qt_install_paths.patch14:01
kfunkfun...14:02
sgclarkkfunk: sorry, so was my original location right? 14:04
kfunksgclark: nope.14:04
sgclarkrdieter: yeah I tried that one but for unknown reasons it put it in /usr/features14:05
kfunkqt4: /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/features/, qt5: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/mkspecs/features14:05
sgclarkkfunk: what did you mean by this then [06:59] <kfunk> hm, there /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/features/ is correct14:05
kfunksgclark: that in qt4-times, mkspecs/features resided in /usr/share apparently.14:05
sgclarkahh ok14:05
kfunkbut for qt5, that changed. not sure if that's Ubuntu's fault, or upstream14:06
rdietersgclark: odd, it works ok for me 14:06
* rdieter checks code14:06
rdietersgclark: apparently your qt build doesnt define QMAKE_MKSPECS ?14:07
sgclarkI will try again rdieter: honestly I have tried so many things I might be confused haha14:07
rdieterqmake -query QMAKE_MKSPECS  ??14:07
sgclarkI think possibly that may have been it, echo $QMAKE_MKSPECS turns up empty14:07
rdieterfor qt4 on fedora, I get: /usr/lib/qt4/mkspecs14:08
rdieterfor you, it *should* say,  /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs14:08
sgclarkso there question is, where is that variable suppose to get set?14:08
rdieterqmake14:09
sgclarkthis is qt514:09
kfunkqt5's qmake no longer defines that variable14:09
kfunkcheck 'qmake -query'14:09
rdieterbleh, ok14:09
rdieterok so $$[QMAKE_MKSPECS]/features isn't going to work for qt5 obviously14:09
sgclark**Unknown**14:09
sgclarkgosh no mkspecs in there at all14:11
* sgclark sighs14:11
kfunkshould use QT_HOST_DATA for Qt514:11
kfunkQT_HOST_DATA:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt514:11
sgclarkgenious. thanks kfunk14:12
rdieterso $$[QT_HOST_DATA]/mkspecs/features14:12
rdieterof course, *that* doesn't work for qt414:12
sgclarkyeah, we are splitting to 2 packages14:12
* rdieter goes to whine in #qt14:13
sgclarkhehe14:13
kfunkrdieter: go to whine at #qwt, if it exists14:13
kfunk:)14:13
kfunkseriously, their build system is a mess14:13
rdieteryes, I got qwt upstream to include proper pkgconfig support recently, maybe this can be the next step14:14
shadeslayerjmux: what do you guys used to manage your deb repos btw?14:35
* sgclark grumbles at the new p[ile of lintian errors caused by renaming to qt514:47
Riddellturns out that kde telepathy is a beast14:50
Riddellmaybe I should have merged qt4 instead :)14:50
sgclarkwell14:50
sgclarkI think I ended up with twice the work doing that14:50
* sgclark cries14:52
Riddelldoing what?14:53
sgclark package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libqwt6 libqwtmathml614:54
sgclarkused the qt4 version as a base for this14:54
Riddelloh but that's fine if you have renamed it to add -qt5 or something onto the name14:56
Riddelljust ignore it14:56
sgclarkok14:56
jmuxshadeslayer: DAK - heavy patched14:58
shadeslayer:S14:58
jmuxso it supports multiple repositories and I can run "updates" against external repositories, which will show new versions and I can decide which packages I want to copy to my current release15:00
jmux~10 years ago this was the best to use with multiple people15:01
ScottKRiddell: Then we've got a few weeks to figure it out.15:02
jmuxshadeslayer: we tried a local launchpad version (also patched), but AFAIK search was / is implemented via a Google appliance rendering it kind of useless without.15:03
shadeslayerI see15:03
* shadeslayer is trying to figure out why reprepro doesn't want to accept --confdir15:04
jmuxThat was ~6 years ago.15:04
RiddellScottK: what what?15:04
ScottKRiddell: Re Qt5 version.15:04
ScottKNeed to be able to tell Canonical PS what version we want by UOS.15:05
RiddellScottK: when is that again?15:05
ScottKUh.  2 or 3 weeks.15:05
* ScottK looks15:05
shadeslayeroh hah15:05
shadeslayernow it works15:05
shadeslayerstupid thing15:05
ScottKStarts 12 Nov.15:06
ScottKSo two weeks.15:06
jmuxshadeslayer: We use reprepro for our "PPA"s. I wanted to have a look at aptly.15:06
shadeslayeroh yeah aptly is cool15:06
shadeslayerI sent them a few PR's recently :P15:06
jmuxHave to leave for an other meeting15:07
shadeslayercya15:07
RiddellScottK: the problem is that neither plasma nor kubuntu nor canonical have much of an opinion on what's best and what's reasonable15:12
RiddellScottK: qt 5.4 would be good for plasma for some stuff in kwin but nobody in plasma wants to make distros do what isn't reasonable15:12
ScottKRight.15:12
Riddellbut if it's easy to do 5.4 I think that would please everyone15:12
ScottKYeah.15:12
ScottKI guess we ought to discuss it and see if 5.4 is reasonable.15:14
RiddellI did discuss it a bit with Mirv 15:15
ScottKOK.  What did he say?15:15
Riddellthat a decision was still to be made I think15:16
ScottKWe should have a UOS session then.  If we want 5.4, then i think it'd make sense to get the RC into the archive ASAP once it's released.15:16
ScottK(schedule 18 Nov)15:17
Riddellbut.. if we have qt 5.4 and plasma dudes decide to stay back at qt 5.3 them trouble will ensue15:18
Riddellrdieter: hey useful other distro person, does fedora have any opinion on what version of qt plasma 5.2 should use? qt 5.3 or qt 5.4?15:18
ScottKDebian's going to release with 5.3, but I don't see a lot of value in sticking with it because of that.15:21
ScottKI think for our purposes we want to pace Qt5 as closely as possible.15:21
Riddellare they going to release with plasma 5?15:21
ScottKNo15:22
Riddellso not very relevant15:22
ScottKYes.15:22
Riddelland kubuntu is releasing in april by which time qt 5.4 will be old and people will wonder why we're shipping qt 5.3 if that's what we choose to do15:22
ScottKTrue.15:22
ScottKAlso, if we get Qt5.4 RC in early, we can still influence the final if there are problems.15:22
RiddellI'll ask on the release-team list what packagers of other distros think15:24
Riddellkde list15:24
ScottKThanks.15:27
sgclarkkfunk: qwt-qt5 ready, will likely have to remove the other one.15:30
Riddellsgclark: remove qwt for qt4? what's the overlapping files?15:33
sheytanapachelogger: heyo dude!15:33
sheytanyou're here?15:34
sgclarkRiddell: nah, the qwt in my ppa15:34
Riddellah15:34
ScottKsgclark: IIRC, qwt is pretty under maintained in Debian, so there's an opportunity to contribute there I believe.15:38
sgclarkScottK: I worked hard on it! that would be wonderful. I need to finish up the manpage patch though15:39
sgclarkand qt4 I guess lol ugh15:41
ScottKAre you doing qwt5 or qwt (which is qwt6)?15:42
sgclarkqwt615:42
sgclarkwhich according to the website supports both qt4 and qt515:43
ScottKI would suggest emailing the maintainer and seeing if he'd like help (he's not very active, so either he won't reply or he'll say yes).  Then once you're ready and he's replied, we can see about an upload to Debian Experimental.15:44
sgclarkScottK: ok, I will work on that, thanks15:45
Riddelld_ed: do you have an opinion on this patch to ktp-text-ui? http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kde-telepathy/ktp-text-ui.git/tree/debian/patches/02_ktpchat_soversion.diff15:45
ScottKfeel free to tell him I pointed you at him.15:45
sgclarkThanks!15:45
ScottKIt's too late for Jessie (they freeze for release in a week and are much stricter about letting things in than Ubuntu), but still worth doing.15:47
kfunksgclark: I can confirm the package works!15:52
kfunkjust compiled my test project against it15:52
sgclarkyipee!15:52
sgclarkthanks for testing kfunk!15:53
kfunknp15:53
kfunkthanks for providing the package :)15:53
sgclarknp :) I learned alot with it lol15:53
Riddellhttp://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/releasing/2014-October/001848.html ScottK qt 5.4 Final Release 2nd Dec 201415:54
Riddelland 5.5 Final Release 28th April 201515:54
kfunksgclark: any ETA when this will arrive the repos?15:54
ScottKThanks.  They should update their web site.15:54
ScottKOh, not that matches.15:54
ScottKnot/no15:55
sgclarkwell manpages are broken so I would like to fix that first15:55
* Riddell wonders what manpages qwt has15:55
sgclarktons15:55
* kfunk too15:55
ScottKqtwebengine seems like trouble though.15:56
d_edRiddell: patch is fine, seems rather pointless given we're the only people using that lib15:56
Riddellunversioned libraries in /usr/lib make packagers squirm15:58
sgclark145 manpages15:58
Riddelltsdgeos: ScottK points out that in discussions before it's been said it's possible to have qt 5.4 in /opt even if the default packages are in /usr15:59
ScottKLast time we had a serious discussion on Qt5 management, Canonical agreed that if they wanted a different version than we did, they'd stash there's somewhere out of the way like that.15:59
ScottKI think it was /opt.15:59
* Riddell syncs qt-gstreamer 1.2.0 which uses gstreamer 1.0 and thus breaks kamoso16:02
bukai_Riddell: Hi, I am unable to access the server suddenly!16:28
Riddellbukai_: works for me16:28
Riddellbukai_: what are you trying?16:28
bukai_Riddell:  It worked for me too, I tried to open a file using kate it falied showed a broken pipe error message and after that i could not login using subho020m@docs.kubuntu.org16:31
bukai_Riddell: It's working again :) 16:32
Riddellglitch in the matrix16:32
Riddellsorry I need to run off16:32
RiddellSick_Rimmit: kde telepathy done just waiting on you to do libkpeople! (both in vivid and utopic)16:33
* Riddell out16:33
rdieterRiddell: wrt plasma-5.2, qt-5.4 is fine with me (I've already received 2 requests to backport crash fixes from 5.4.x to our 5.3.x packaging)16:37
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ScottKRiddell: Did you see the SRU stuff in #u-meeting2 (tb meeting)?19:15
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soeeRiddell: ping19:53

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