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pitti | Good morning | 06:38 |
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MasterPieceZ | moin pitti | 06:39 |
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pitti | infinity: I encountered some installability failures due to packages now relying on versioned provides; apparently that's implemented in a newer dpkg | 07:08 |
pitti | infinity: are you planning to merge dpkg soon (TIL), or want me to look at this? | 07:08 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:27 |
seb128 | dobey, hey, is bug #1367017 something you plan to look at? it's on top of e.u.c for utopic | 07:47 |
ubottu | bug 1367017 in software-center (Ubuntu) "After update to 14.10, update-software-center crashed with AttributeError in __getattr__(): When using gi.repository you must not import static modules like "gobject". Please change all occurrences of "import gobject" to "from gi.repository import GObject". " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1367017 | 07:47 |
seb128 | bdmurray, do you know if https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/355fe44c2df7fde28f2a6be90875fdd39632eee4 hits an e.u.c or apport bug? | 07:54 |
seb128 | the traceback is | 07:54 |
seb128 | "TypeError: string argument expected, got 'bytes'" | 07:54 |
seb128 | but that seems to be rather e.u.c failing to display the bt | 07:54 |
pitti | not sure, but I've seen actual python exceptions that look like this | 07:55 |
seb128 | pitti, they would have a sourcefile/code/function indication though no? | 07:57 |
pitti | seb128: that's what I mean with "like this" -- no traceback, just the exception | 07:57 |
pitti | it's weird indeed | 07:57 |
seb128 | weird | 07:57 |
pitti | very unlikely to be an e.u.c. bug; could be an apport bug, but I suspect the error just simply looks like that | 07:58 |
seb128 | k | 07:59 |
seb128 | so python bug? | 07:59 |
pitti | or something in s-c-p intercepts the exception and does something like print(str(e)) | 08:00 |
pitti | (which is not that uncommon) | 08:00 |
seb128 | right | 08:00 |
seb128 | pitti, thanks | 08:00 |
seb128 | pitti, btw have you seen the s-c bug I just mentioned, is that something than changed in pygobject/an actual bug, or is that a warning that turns out to do e.u.c "spamming"? | 08:01 |
seb128 | bug #1361829 is high on the errors list with a similar issue | 08:01 |
ubottu | bug 1361829 in unity-webapps-googleplus (Ubuntu) "update-desktop-file-unity-webapps-googleplus.py crashed with AttributeError in __getattr__(): When using gi.repository you must not import static modules like "gobject". Please change all occurrences of "import gobject" to "from gi.repository import GObject". See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709183" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1361829 | 08:01 |
pitti | seb128: s-c-p was ported to py3 last cycle, so I figure it's an actual bug | 08:12 |
seb128 | pitti, that's software-center, not s-c-p? | 08:13 |
pitti | seb128: the webapps one seems entirely different from the bytes vs. string conversion though? | 08:13 |
pitti | seb128: ah, or that, sorry :) | 08:13 |
pitti | seb128: no, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/355fe44c2df7fde28f2a6be90875fdd39632eee4 is s-c-p | 08:13 |
seb128 | pitti, sorry, I was refering to my ping to dobey from half an hour ago | 08:13 |
seb128 | pitti, s-c didn't change in utopic afaik | 08:14 |
pitti | right | 08:14 |
tsdgeos | ogra_: congratulations sir! | 08:14 |
seb128 | pitti, right, s-c didn't change at all, same revision in trusty and utopic | 08:15 |
seb128 | so it's coming from pygobject | 08:15 |
ogra_ | thanks tsdgeos ! | 08:15 |
seb128 | well, it might be right to warn, but that creates errors noise :/ | 08:15 |
pitti | seb128: no, it's not a warning, it's a grave error | 08:28 |
pitti | the warning was improved to make debugging easier | 08:28 |
pitti | as otherwise it leads to random segfaults and similar | 08:28 |
seb128 | pitti, k, I wonder why we didn't get more reports from trusty if that's such an import error | 08:28 |
seb128 | s-c reports are quite low on trusty | 08:29 |
seb128 | and the code didn't change at all, not even a no change rebuild since | 08:29 |
pitti | well, apparenlty it just happens to work then just in this case; but this imports glib/gobject etc. libraries twice, which is bound to fail | 08:30 |
pitti | (i. e. it might just occur "randomly" if a library dependency changes, etc.) | 08:30 |
seb128 | right | 08:31 |
seb128 | dbarth, hey, you/your team is working on unity-webapps-* right? could you look at bug #1361829 | 08:31 |
ubottu | bug 1361829 in unity-webapps-googleplus (Ubuntu) "update-desktop-file-unity-webapps-googleplus.py crashed with AttributeError in __getattr__(): When using gi.repository you must not import static modules like "gobject". Please change all occurrences of "import gobject" to "from gi.repository import GObject". See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709183" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1361829 | 08:31 |
seb128 | dbarth, they are similar reports for the different webapps, that's ranked quite high on e.u.c | 08:31 |
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mvo_ | pitti: quick question about the command-not-found blacklisting of postgres-xc - it seems there are a bunch of additional postgres-xc-{client,...} packages, do we care about those as well ? | 08:34 |
mvo_ | pitti: care about blacklisting them I mean of course | 08:34 |
pitti | mvo_: no, those should be fine as postgresql-common wraps the client-side programs | 08:35 |
pitti | mvo_: but indeed the "initdb" program has the same issue, i. e. we should blacklist that in addition to pg_ctl | 08:35 |
pitti | mvo_: bug title updated | 08:36 |
dbarth | seb128: yes | 08:41 |
dbarth | seb128: seen it, i assigned it now | 08:41 |
seb128 | dbarth, thanks | 08:41 |
dbarth | seb128: the scripts choke on the gobject import | 08:42 |
seb128 | dbarth, right, should be easy to fix/change | 08:42 |
dbarth | yeah; that's transitionary code that should be removed mostly | 08:43 |
seb128 | yeah, I was thinking that | 08:43 |
seb128 | those migrations scripts are probably not required anymore | 08:43 |
seb128 | maybe just drop them | 08:43 |
dbarth | nope | 08:43 |
dbarth | right | 08:43 |
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brainwash | can anyone help with a package which is stuck in trusty-proposed? bug 1377612 | 10:32 |
ubottu | bug 1377612 in Xfce4 weather plugin "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1377612 | 10:32 |
smb | Hm, is anybody already working on adding vivid to Trusty's dist-info-data? | 10:35 |
pitti | smb: it's already there | 10:38 |
pitti | at least I got it in a dist-upgrade | 10:38 |
smb | pitti, hm... I just looked and only saw ubuntu0.1 which added Utopic... | 10:39 |
pitti | smb: oh wait, sorry, that was debootstrap | 10:39 |
pitti | right, I meant https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/1.0.59ubuntu0.2 | 10:39 |
smb | pitti, Ah... yeah. I made a source pkg for distro-info-data. But not sure it is done right | 10:40 |
smb | pitti, would you be able to have a look and sponsor if ok? | 10:40 |
Laney | I already did a patch for it | 10:40 |
Laney | check the queue | 10:40 |
smb | hm... cannot find it in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=distro-info-data | 10:43 |
Laney | the sponsor queue | 10:44 |
pitti | brainwash: I asked elfy in #u-quality whether his comment 21 was testing the proposed package | 10:44 |
smb | ah, sorry | 10:44 |
pitti | brainwash: there's no other feedback on the update | 10:45 |
Laney | I could just upload to proposed and let them copy to security I guess | 10:45 |
pitti | -updates you mean? it's ceratinly not a -security thing? | 10:45 |
Laney | look at the existing update | 10:46 |
brainwash | pitti: so, someone needs to add a comment and state that he tested the trusty package, right? | 10:49 |
pitti | brainwash: yes | 10:49 |
brainwash | pitti: alright, thanks | 10:49 |
brainwash | pitti: a comment has been added to the report | 10:54 |
brainwash | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/+bug/1377612/comments/40 | 10:54 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1377612 in Xfce4 weather plugin "[SRU] Plugin needs updated for locationforecast-1.2" [Medium,Confirmed] | 10:54 |
pitti | cheers | 10:55 |
mgedmin | incidentally, why is chromium-browser in utopic older than in trusty? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium-browser | 10:57 |
mgedmin | utopic has 37.0.2062.94, trusty has 37.0.2062.120 | 10:57 |
Riddell | pitti: any tech board meeting today? | 11:01 |
pitti | Riddell: yes, should be at 17:00 UTC | 11:01 |
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geser | mvo_: Hi, I see that you synced snappy and dropped the changes to make LP accept the upload (ancient timestamps). Are you going to re-add them or should I do it? | 13:02 |
mvo_ | geser: oh, that sounds like a mistake somewhere (probably me :/ - is it the touch in the rules file that is required for LP? | 13:08 |
geser | yes | 13:12 |
geser | it's needed for "libsnappy-dev_1.1.2-3_amd64.deb: has 2 file(s) with a time stamp too far in the past (e.g. usr/share/doc/libsnappy-dev/NEWS.gz [Mon Dec 31 23:00:00 1979])." | 13:13 |
mvo_ | geser: either way, i can fix but if you want to i'm happy too :) | 13:13 |
geser | I would need a sponsor for it anyway | 13:14 |
mvo_ | ok, let me fix it then, thanks for letting me know and sorry for the trouble | 13:16 |
dobey | seb128: i didn't know about that issue until just now. afaik, nobody is working on software-center. and distro-info-data apparently needs updated on trusty before pull-lp-source will work | 13:16 |
seb128 | dobey, there is a sru waiting on http://launchpadlibrarian.net/188495410/distro-info-data_0.18ubuntu0.2_source.changes | 13:16 |
seb128 | dobey, but s-c didn't change at all in utopic so you can get the trusty version through apt-get | 13:17 |
dobey | right. i was trying to pull it off vivid, since i'll have to upload there first anyway | 13:18 |
smoser | hey. so i have /var/crash/_usr_lib_unity_unity-panel-service.1000.crash . | 13:19 |
smoser | dialog pops up, asks me if i want to submit, i say yes. | 13:19 |
smoser | then nothing | 13:19 |
smoser | is this functioning as designed ? | 13:19 |
smoser | i'd like to see the bug it created. | 13:19 |
smoser | same thing happens when i run 'ubuntu-bug /var/crash/_usr_lib_unity_unity-panel-service.1000.crash' | 13:19 |
smoser | pitti, ^ do you know ? sorry for personal ping | 13:19 |
pitti | smoser: it reports to errors.u.cc. | 13:20 |
pitti | smoser: reporting to Launchpad bugs got disabled for final utopic release, as usual | 13:20 |
smoser | ok. i thougth that might be the case. | 13:20 |
smoser | might be useful to tell the user that ? | 13:21 |
pitti | well, it does | 13:21 |
pitti | never it says "Launchpad bug" or anythign :) | 13:21 |
smoser | ok. yeah, i guess. it just doesn't say "i did it" but rather "do you want me to do it". | 13:21 |
smoser | so lets say i wanted to see this bug. where do i do that ? | 13:24 |
smoser | https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.10&package=unity-services&period=day tells me "no data to display" | 13:24 |
pitti | 2014.10? | 13:26 |
pitti | oh, %20, nevermind | 13:26 |
mdeslaur | arges: hi! could you please take a look at the dovecot sru in the precise queue? | 13:26 |
pitti | smoser: unsure, it might take a while to get processed? | 13:27 |
arges | mdeslaur: sure. i'm working my way through the queues right now | 13:27 |
smoser | pitti, thanks. | 13:27 |
mdeslaur | arges: awesome, thanks :) | 13:27 |
pitti | smoser: do you have a /var/crash/_usr_lib_unity_unity-panel-service.1000.uploaded? | 13:27 |
smoser | yes | 13:29 |
smoser | oh wait. | 13:29 |
smoser | i have .upload | 13:29 |
smoser | but not .uploaded | 13:29 |
pitti | ah, then whoopsie didn't get to uploading it yet | 13:30 |
pitti | /var/log/upstart/whoopsie.log might say why | 13:31 |
smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/8719453/ | 13:32 |
pitti | bdmurray: ^ ? | 13:33 |
smoser | well, 'sudo restart whoopsie' | 13:33 |
smoser | got me to /var/log/upstart/whoopsie.log with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8719461/ | 13:33 |
smoser | and got a .uploaded file. | 13:34 |
smoser | but that doesn't really help me for the 2 things i'd hope to get out of this.. | 13:34 |
smoser | a.) i want to see the bug fixed. | 13:34 |
smoser | well, i guess thats the only one. but i'd like ot subscribe to the bug. | 13:34 |
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smoser | pitti, i think i found it. i was being too specific with 'the package'. it is souce package. | 13:49 |
smoser | https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.10&package=unity&period=week&pkg_arch=amd64 | 13:49 |
pitti | smoser: ah right, it is | 13:50 |
arges | mdeslaur: for bug 1384355, there is an SRU to remove it from trusty/utopic. did you have any additional concerns/comments about this? I've read the thread on ubuntu-devel | 14:01 |
ubottu | bug 1384355 in owncloud (Ubuntu) "ownCloud should be removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384355 | 14:01 |
mdeslaur | arges: not really, no. the approach Riddell took is fine by me. Nobody volunteered to take over maintenance, so I guess that's the best solution. | 14:03 |
Riddell | arges: just needs someone from the ~ubuntu-sru team brave enough to approve it | 14:04 |
arges | Riddell: yea, that's what i'm reviewing now : ) | 14:04 |
Riddell | yay | 14:04 |
arges | Riddell: one thing is if its serving up this temporary php webpage, will it still need any of the deps like php5? | 14:08 |
arges | Riddell: or i guess what would happen if I had a clean install of ubuntu-server; installed this package; how do I get the notification to use the upstream packages or juju? | 14:10 |
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Riddell | arges: I remove the dependencies didn't I? | 14:11 |
Riddell | arges: it still installs the apache config so you can still browse to it and see the message | 14:11 |
arges | Riddell: but the package has no dependencies now; so If you install it (without having the old package) how would you see those messages if you don't have those deps installed | 14:12 |
Riddell | arges: apt-cache show owncloud will show you, message in /usr/share/doc/owncloud/README.Debian too | 14:12 |
arges | you can't guarantee that apache2 | httpd, are installed | 14:13 |
Riddell | I can add back apache2 | httpd if you think that would be better | 14:13 |
arges | Riddell: ok so in the case of a new install from archive, we will have to assume the user will look at README.Debian or the apt-cache output | 14:13 |
arges | Riddell: well i'm just thinking through it. | 14:14 |
arges | so it handles two cases: 1) they have old package installed, and go to web portal which tells them to install through upstream. 2) they have a fresh install and we hope they read the messages somewhere in the package description, apt-cache, or README telling them to get the upstream version | 14:15 |
bdmurray | seb128: I'd think an apport bug given that when you go to an individual problem page it is truncated there too. | 14:16 |
Riddell | arges: yep | 14:21 |
arges | Riddell: ok seems reasonable | 14:22 |
Riddell | arges: I don't know what's common practice in empty SRUs like this, probably there is no common practice | 14:22 |
Riddell | but it feels kindae wrong to install apache for an empty package | 14:22 |
arges | Riddell: yea, i'd like to get a second opinion. i'll see if I can get somebody else to review too then i'd be happy accepting it | 14:23 |
ricotz | hi, is it known the aptitude cant retrieve changelogs again? | 14:33 |
mvo_ | ricotz: what package(s) ? | 14:41 |
mvo_ | ricotz: i.e. how can I reproduce? | 14:41 |
ricotz | mvo_, i would say all of them ;) (i know only official ubuntu archive ones should work) | 14:42 |
mvo_ | does anyone care about python-couchdb ? I would like to sync the debian version | 14:42 |
ricotz | mvo_, select a package and "Shift+C" | 14:43 |
mvo_ | ricotz: right, I think I can reproduce this - just to double check "apt-get changelog pkgname" for the same package works, right? | 14:43 |
ricotz | mvo_, yes | 14:44 |
mvo_ | thanks | 14:45 |
mvo_ | ricotz: could you please report a bug so that we can SRU a fix? | 14:47 |
ricotz | mvo_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1386737 | 14:58 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1386737 in aptitude (Ubuntu) "Changelogs not retrievable" [Undecided,New] | 14:58 |
mvo_ | ricotz: thanks! | 14:58 |
Laney | This libtool dependency shuffling... | 14:58 |
Laney | should dh-autoreconf depend on libtool-bin now? | 14:58 |
infinity | pitti: I was intentionally holding off for a bit, as the Debian uploads had been frequent and bugfixy. | 15:21 |
pitti | infinity: ah, ok; that's fine, I just wanted to know the status | 15:22 |
infinity | pitti: Though, people jumping on the versioned provides bandwagon as soon as the feature exists seems misguided. Whee. | 15:23 |
pitti | infinity: yeah, I agree; and I still think it's a bad idea in the first place :/ | 15:24 |
pitti | this is way too prone to errors | 15:24 |
infinity | pitti: Aaand, more regression fixes over the weekend. I think I'll let dpkg bake a tiny bit longer. ;) | 15:25 |
pitti | infinity: ack :) | 15:25 |
pitti | infinity: something else; bug 1381656, is that something that ought to be fixed in Debian, or is that file ubuntu specific? | 15:25 |
ubottu | bug 1381656 in glibc (Ubuntu) "obsolete config: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/i686-linux-gnu.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1381656 | 15:25 |
rbasak | What's the new feature, OOI? | 15:26 |
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pitti | rbasak: versioned provides | 15:27 |
infinity | pitti: Possibly Ubuntu-specific, since we build for a different target. | 15:27 |
rbasak | Ah | 15:27 |
pitti | AFAIK, if you have | 15:27 |
pitti | Package: foo | 15:27 |
pitti | Version: 3 | 15:27 |
pitti | Provides: somefoo | 15:27 |
pitti | then you can have "Depends: somefoo (>= 2)" and foo would satisfy this | 15:27 |
infinity | pitti: To be fair, internally, provides were always versioned, but the version was 0. :P | 15:27 |
rbasak | That's nice, although it feels like a binary package version shouldn't be tied to the version of the virtual thing that it provides? | 15:28 |
pitti | but foo/1 wouldn't satisfy this (that's the real new thing) | 15:28 |
pitti | rbasak: yeah, that's the "brittle" part that I don't like | 15:28 |
rbasak | I'd have done it as "Provides: somefoo (=3)" or something | 15:28 |
infinity | That's how it's done. | 15:29 |
infinity | pitti: What gives you the idea it's using the non-provided version? | 15:29 |
pitti | the above is the case that I saw this morning | 15:29 |
pitti | meeting, bbl | 15:30 |
infinity | rbasak: It's implemented exactly as you think it should be. :P | 15:30 |
rbasak | infinity: nice :) | 15:30 |
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sergiusens | pitti: hey, is there a way to run adt tests for a deb from local sources? | 16:17 |
pitti | sergiusens: yes (in meeting); see https://people.debian.org/~mpitt/autopkgtest/README.running-tests.html | 16:17 |
pitti | sergiusens: can help you in a bit after meeting | 16:17 |
sergiusens | pitti: I'll follow the docs, was using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/AutoPackageTesting though | 16:19 |
sergiusens | thanks | 16:19 |
pitti | sergiusens: ah thanks, I'll remove that; it's obsoleted by the autopkgtest docs and http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html | 16:19 |
pitti | sergiusens: wiki page updated; meeting done, do you still have questions/trouble? | 16:42 |
pitti | sergiusens: and yes, you can test a local .deb, a local .dsc, or both | 16:42 |
pitti | sergiusens: or a local source package dir (built or unbuilt) | 16:42 |
pitti | mvo__: thanks for fixing bug 1384864! | 16:46 |
ubottu | bug 1384864 in command-not-found (Ubuntu Vivid) "Please blacklist pg_ctl and initdb" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1384864 | 16:46 |
pitti | mvo__: OOI, how do you do that? manually editing scan.data after scanning, or is there a more clever way? (I'm looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/188488665/command-not-found_0.3ubuntu15_0.3ubuntu15.1.diff.gz) | 16:47 |
pitti | infinity, kees, mdeslaur, stgraber, slangasek: TB meeting reminder (6 mins) | 16:54 |
* slangasek nods | 16:55 | |
slangasek | who's chair today? | 16:55 |
infinity | Oh whee, I'm chair. I get to remind myself how to use the bot again. | 16:55 |
* ogra_ sits down on infinity to test that claim | 16:55 | |
ogra_ | not so comfortable ... | 16:56 |
infinity | Ow. | 16:56 |
ogra_ | you need some more stuffing :) | 16:56 |
infinity | I have plenty, thanks. | 16:56 |
ogra_ | heh | 16:56 |
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infinity | pitti: I assume we still have the conflict that forces us to #-meeting-2? | 16:59 |
pitti | infinity: according to http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ yes (kernel team meeting) | 16:59 |
sergiusens | pitti: I think I can take it from here, still setting up anyways; thanks! | 17:00 |
pitti | hm, why isn't the TB meeting on this any more -- it used to | 17:00 |
* rbasak didn't realise the TB was DST-compliant | 17:00 | |
infinity | kees: Joining us in #-meeting-2? | 17:00 |
kees | infinity: yup, almost there | 17:00 |
pitti | rbasak: we are all on the nothern hemisphere, so much better that way (we pinned to London time instead of UTC) | 17:00 |
rbasak | Makes sense. | 17:01 |
pitti | bdmurray: FTR, I updated lp-retracer-config for vivid and rolled out to LP retracers; I figure daisy needs some similar treatment | 17:02 |
bdmurray | pitti: thanks, is there any reason not to turn on crash reporting to Errors earlier than we usually do? | 17:05 |
pitti | bdmurray: we never disable crash reporting to errors | 17:08 |
pitti | bdmurray: only to launchpad | 17:08 |
pitti | bdmurray: (for stables) ^ | 17:08 |
pitti | bdmurray: responded to bug 1365079 | 17:10 |
ubottu | bug 1365079 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport should gather package information about click packages" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365079 | 17:10 |
dpm | pitti, do you know who could do a sync from a utopic package to rtm while Colin is away? | 17:12 |
pitti | dpm: any archive admin can do that (me too) | 17:13 |
Laney | Anyone who can upload in fact | 17:13 |
pitti | oh, even better | 17:13 |
Laney | (AIUI) | 17:13 |
ogra_ | dpm, note that nothing is allowed to enter rtm without being on ollis list | 17:14 |
ogra_ | (except langpacks i think) | 17:15 |
dpm | ok, I'll talk to olli, thanks ogra_ and everyone | 17:15 |
ogra_ | (and you will need QA signoff too) | 17:15 |
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slangasek | why are my terminal fonts a complete disaster after a system restart in 14.10? | 22:19 |
slangasek | in fact, something seems to have changed mozilla's theming too | 22:20 |
sladen | slangasek: /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ubuntu-artwork.gschema.overide ? | 22:25 |
sladen | slangasek: ... just a guess, but if you're seeing multiple things changed, it could be the whole set of default-overrides missing | 22:26 |
slangasek | hmm. unity-settings-daemon was running but not working correctly | 22:29 |
slangasek | so killall unity-settings-daemon, and my terminal fonts are suddenly not eyebleeding | 22:29 |
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ari-tczew | I'm trying to upload a source package to vivid-proposed. | 23:07 |
ari-tczew | $ dput ubuntu:vivid-proposed gnome-shell-extensions_3.14.1-1ubuntu1_source.changes | 23:07 |
ari-tczew | However, files have been uploaded to utopic-proposed | 23:07 |
ari-tczew | what's wrong? | 23:07 |
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Bluefoxicy | okay so is there a tool to reverse the update from 14.04 to 14.10 | 23:08 |
Bluefoxicy | because there was no warning on 14.10 that it was mid-development | 23:08 |
Bluefoxicy | and everything is broken in this release | 23:08 |
ari-tczew | Bluefoxicy: new, fresh install the best. for such questions better please ask on #ubuntu | 23:10 |
TheMuso | ari-tczew: Um, I ddn't think you could upload to a release like that, I thought the release you wanted the upload for needs to be mentioned in the changes file. | 23:19 |
Bluefoxicy | okay well, entering #ubuntu is the most useless thing anyone can evere do | 23:27 |
Bluefoxicy | so I'll just file a bug "It doesn't work and I have no idea why, nor any way to collect any information explaining why. Good luck." | 23:27 |
ari-tczew | Bluefoxicy: so good luck while waiting for constructive response. | 23:35 |
ari-tczew | TheMuso: Right, there was a problem. thnx :-) | 23:36 |
Bluefoxicy | ari-tczew: there is no way to get constructive information | 23:37 |
Bluefoxicy | it's broken, and there's no debug output, and no information on the internet, and everyone says "LOL HTML5 VIDEO INSTALL FLASH???" | 23:37 |
Bluefoxicy | That's the type of constructive response I got from #ubuntu | 23:37 |
Bluefoxicy | "HTML5 video doesn't play" "Have you installed Flash?" | 23:37 |
* ari-tczew is leaving topic as won't fixed. | 23:39 | |
sladen | Bluefoxicy: what exact URL does not player, in what exact browser? | 23:47 |
Bluefoxicy | sladen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMmMgdcOSU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_FFF3wgfh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNL72qFc_ew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN7O9gM-lvc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSLUXkfm9b8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fouoxaWGFng | 23:51 |
Bluefoxicy | sladen: do not play in Chromium-browser. They were playing in 14.04; they're mostly open because they were open in 14.04 and Chromium re-opens tabs when it restarts. | 23:51 |
Bluefoxicy | If I click and scroll and such, I can scroll through the video to any frame in the video | 23:51 |
Bluefoxicy | The ads don't play either. | 23:51 |
Bluefoxicy | I tried apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser, removing ~/.config/chromium, and then re-installing chromium-browser and starting up again with no config in my user directory and with the system config purged and recreated | 23:53 |
Bluefoxicy | that didn't fix it. | 23:53 |
Bluefoxicy | I'm out of troubleshooting actions :| | 23:53 |
Bluefoxicy | I can't gather any information on why it's behaving this way, I can't find anything online about it, and I can't get a proper result with a cleared configuration. This is bang-your-head-against-the-wall territory. | 23:54 |
Bluefoxicy | watch | 23:56 |
Bluefoxicy | I'll be the only person in the world this is happening to | 23:56 |
geofft | I've seen that behavior before but I forget what caused it. | 23:57 |
geofft | I did once have chromium-codecs-ffmpeg* out of sync with chromium-browser itself, which caused somethings to be sad | 23:58 |
geofft | but I think the symptoms were different. | 23:58 |
Bluefoxicy | geofft: have you also seen the behavior of "Activities view hangs gnome-shell for 5 seconds, or possibly crashes it" too? because that happens too. | 23:58 |
geofft | no, but now I'm suspecting your libGL... | 23:58 |
Bluefoxicy | Upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 didn't really bring anything new except a slew of brokenness. It should have been called do-release-update, because "upgrade" implies making it better. | 23:58 |
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