| darkxst | mgedmin, they changed the default, but you can still set it in tweak tool | 01:47 |
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| darkxst | mgedmin, and Gtk headerbars as of 3.14 honor the button-layout key | 01:50 |
| darkxst | we will probably switch back to upstream default for vivid. i.e. just close button on all windows | 01:51 |
| gnewbie_ | Trying to use wubi in ubuntu-gnome 14.10 ISO. It insists on downloading another ISO. It has no option for Gnome. How can I fix this? | 02:07 |
| nlsthzn | o/ ubuntu gnome peeps, first of all congrats on the recent 14.10 release. I decided to install it so I can try out Gnome 3.14 which roxors my soxors. I added three PPA's as per instructions online but would like to know is all three needed as ppa:ricotz/testing has a package marked as 3.15 and I wonder if it may be the reason for some graphical issues I have?! | 04:30 |
| nlsthzn | when I mentioned my issues with the default theme someone on G+ was mentioning there was such an issue with the work being done on 3.15 so I was just curious | 04:33 |
| darkxst | nlsthzn, probably best to only use gnome3 and gnome3-staging, unless you like having things break | 06:00 |
| nlsthzn | darkxst, ok thanks... will look into purging the ppa then :) | 06:04 |
| mgedmin | darkxst, I was seeing minimize/maximize on non-headerbar windows too | 06:54 |
| mgedmin | also: my segfaults were caused by overlay-scrollbars! | 06:56 |
| mgedmin | a long gdb session finally uncovered that the last thing called before the segfault was at an address that was mapped to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/modules/liboverlay-scrollbar.so | 06:57 |
| mgedmin | apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar-gtk3 made the segfaults go away | 06:57 |
| mgedmin | uuwe, ^ | 07:02 |
| mgedmin | I guess gtk+ 3.14 in the ppa needs to conflict with overlay-scrollbar-gtk3, or the ppa should get a fixed overlay-scrollbar package that works with gtk3 | 07:02 |
| mgedmin | since https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1386255 is a private bug, I guess I should open a new one? | 07:04 |
| ubot5 | Error: ubuntu bug 1386255 not found | 07:04 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, I will make it public | 07:13 |
| mgedmin | delete the core file first maybe? | 07:14 |
| darkxst | of course! | 07:14 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, do you have ubuntu-gnome-default-settings installed? that should disable overlay scrollbars | 07:14 |
| mgedmin | I'm pretty sure overlay scrollbars were disabled | 07:15 |
| mgedmin | i.e. scrollbars looked like regular gnome3 scrollbars | 07:15 |
| mgedmin | yes, I have ubuntu-gnome-default-settings installed | 07:15 |
| darkxst | oh the key we set to disable them appears to no longer exists | 07:18 |
| === ccar_away is now known as ccarella | ||
| darkxst | oh its not removed, I just don't have it installed | 07:23 |
| mgedmin | overlay-scrollbar ships a schema file for com.canonical.desktop.interface | 07:23 |
| mgedmin | what happens to user settings when the schema is removed? | 07:24 |
| mgedmin | a-ha | 07:24 |
| mgedmin | on 2012-11-20 I ran 'gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal' | 07:24 |
| mgedmin | because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes-standard/+bug/1059374 | 07:24 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1059374 in overlay-scrollbar (Ubuntu) "Using Adwaita, many widgets are drawn with a solid black background" [Low,Triaged] | 07:24 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, can you file a bug with the crash trace, just removing it not really an option since it will need to be fixed before gtk 3.14 goes into archives for vivid | 07:28 |
| mgedmin | bug 1386255 has a stack trace | 07:28 |
| ubot5 | bug 1386255 in Ubuntu GNOME "devhelp crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386255 | 07:28 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, oh that was caused by the scrollbars? | 07:28 |
| mgedmin | not the broken one by the bot, the one I uploaded in a subsequent comment | 07:28 |
| mgedmin | yes | 07:28 |
| mgedmin | I can provide more information from my gdb session (while it's still fresh in my memory) | 07:29 |
| darkxst | I won't have time to look at this now | 07:32 |
| mgedmin | sure | 07:39 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, maybe it just needs a rebuild though | 07:52 |
| mgedmin | do you want me to try? | 07:52 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, sure, that would be good | 07:53 |
| === ccarella is now known as ccar_away | ||
| mgedmin | darkxst, still crashes when I rebuild it | 07:58 |
| darkxst | ok, thanks for trying, I will try take a look another time | 08:04 |
| mgedmin | my curiosity is a burden | 08:14 |
| mgedmin | had another go: installed overlay-scrollbar-gtk3-dbgsym, ran gdb, put a breakpoint on the callback inside overlay-scrollbar.so | 08:14 |
| mgedmin | gdm doesn't find any functions at that address | 08:15 |
| mgedmin | hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notify is static, but I hoped dbgsyms would define it? | 08:15 |
| * darkxst thinks the dbgsym packages are empty when there is a dbg package | 08:15 | |
| mgedmin | there's no overlay-scrollbar-gtk3-dbg, just overlay-scrollbar-gtk3-dbgsym | 08:16 |
| darkxst | oh right, in that case it should have symbols but sometimes they get stripped | 08:16 |
| darkxst | you could try build it with -O0 | 08:16 |
| mgedmin | anyway I'm staring at the assembly, and it looks like some PIC code going very wrong? | 08:16 |
| darkxst | hmm that is being too curious! | 08:16 |
| mgedmin | mov 0x20bbba(%rip),%eax; test %eax,%eax; jz somelocallabel (jump taken); mov 0x20bb79(%rip),%rax ($rax is 0 after this!); jmp *%rax (jump to la-la land) | 08:17 |
| mgedmin | 0x20bb79(%rip) is 0x7fffeed46770 | 08:17 |
| mgedmin | if this is really hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notify | 08:18 |
| mgedmin | it looks like it assumes all preexisting widgets have a grab_notify | 08:18 |
| mgedmin | so it doesn't check if pre_hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notify is 0 before unconditionally calling it | 08:18 |
| mgedmin | how do I make a patch? augh | 08:19 |
| mgedmin | why is UDD based on bzr and not git? | 08:19 |
| darkxst | you can't patch assembly! | 08:19 |
| darkxst | UDD branches are nearly always broken | 08:19 |
| darkxst | (unless they are packaging branches) | 08:19 |
| darkxst | I do everything in git, then for simple patches just submit a debdiff | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | I think https://gist.github.com/84d1545df63a4e0ad981 might fix it | 08:20 |
| darkxst | for more complex stuff will merge my stuff into bzr | 08:20 |
| mgedmin | augh I did a 'git init && git add . && git commit -m "Import"' inside the apt-source'd tree and now debuild -i aborts with unrepresentable source changes | 08:20 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, use git-buildpackage | 08:21 |
| mgedmin | I need to learn how to use it one day | 08:21 |
| darkxst | git-buildpackage -S | 08:21 |
| darkxst | though you need to start by importing the dsc file | 08:21 |
| darkxst | git import-dsc package.dsc | 08:22 |
| darkxst | do your work | 08:22 |
| darkxst | then git-buildpackage -S | 08:22 |
| mgedmin | do I need to git init before git import-dsc? | 08:22 |
| darkxst | import-dsc does the init | 08:22 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, I have been using gbp and friends for everything recently ;) | 08:23 |
| darkxst | we will soon have packaging branches on git.debian.org for most of the ppa stuff and some ubuntu-gnome packageset stuff | 08:24 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, you should reverse the checks | 08:24 |
| darkxst | pre_hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notify && widget_class->grab_notify == pre_hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notify | 08:25 |
| darkxst | if grab_notify is null, the comparison in if condition will crash | 08:26 |
| mgedmin | widget_class is not null | 08:27 |
| darkxst | oh hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notify was null | 08:28 |
| darkxst | ? | 08:28 |
| darkxst | pre_^ | 08:28 |
| mgedmin | yes | 08:28 |
| mgedmin | I think | 08:29 |
| mgedmin | yay the fix works! | 08:31 |
| darkxst | ok, cool | 08:31 |
| mgedmin | darkxst, what now? can I get a debdiff out of git-buildpackage? | 08:31 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, add a changelong entry | 08:32 |
| darkxst | git-buildpackage -S | 08:32 |
| mgedmin | ah, ok | 08:32 |
| darkxst | debdiff old.dsc new.dsc | 08:33 |
| mgedmin | actually now I think about this my patch is wrong | 08:33 |
| mgedmin | no it isn't | 08:33 |
| mgedmin | it's correct :) | 08:33 |
| mgedmin | it might be incomplete -- who knows what other pre_.... callbacks can be 0 | 08:33 |
| darkxst | well I still think grab_notify must be null | 08:33 |
| darkxst | which is probably valid enough | 08:34 |
| mgedmin | yes, widget_class->grab_notify is 0, and gobject's g_type_class_meta_marshal explicitly checks for that before invoking it | 08:35 |
| mgedmin | re: changelog entry/debdiff: I have to get to work actually, I already spent way too much time on this | 08:36 |
| mgedmin | maybe later | 08:36 |
| darkxst | then assuming hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notif is aslo null, why would it even crash | 08:41 |
| darkxst | at the very least attach a git patch to the bug | 08:41 |
| darkxst | and would be nice to nice to also know if the overlay scrollbars still work with 3.14 (not withstanding other theme bugs) | 08:42 |
| mgedmin | I've put a link to the gist in the bug comments | 08:43 |
| mgedmin | hijacked_scrollbar_grab_notify is a static function defined in overlay-scrollbar's os/os-scrollbar.c | 08:43 |
| darkxst | thats ok as long as it won't expire! | 08:43 |
| mgedmin | github's gists never expire | 08:43 |
| darkxst | ok, I don't really use them | 08:43 |
| mgedmin | hijacked_..._notify checks if overlay scrollbars are enabled and if they aren't calls through the original function (pre_...) | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | the intent is to disable the default signal handler if overlay scrollbars are enabled, AFAICS | 08:44 |
| mgedmin | ironic that it fails when the default signal handler doesn't exist :) | 08:45 |
| darkxst | I'm only guessing based on your tiny snippet of code | 08:47 |
| darkxst | but if that is the case, patch is probably correct, but I would still reverse the order of the if condition checks | 08:48 |
| darkxst | it makes little sense to call - if ( 0x0 == 0x0 && now check for null) | 08:49 |
| mgedmin | sure; I was aiming for a more readable diff rather than more readable end result | 08:49 |
| mgedmin | yep, overlay scrollbars work | 08:50 |
| darkxst | for upstream projects hosted on bzr (I assume overlay-scrollbars is that) then the first is better than the second | 08:50 |
| * mgedmin tried gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode overlay-auto | 08:50 | |
| mgedmin | in xchat-gnome | 08:50 |
| mgedmin | gnome-terminal's scrollbars didn't change for some reason | 08:51 |
| mgedmin | haven't tried other apps | 08:51 |
| darkxst | for quilt patches readable diff is better, though in that case its pretty trivial and I would still go with the first | 08:51 |
| darkxst | anyway I have to go cook dinner | 08:52 |
| * mgedmin -> work | 08:52 | |
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| darkxst | mgedmin, hmm are there scrollbars without grab_notify handlers now? or just widgests getting passed through that are not scrollbars | 09:36 |
| mgedmin | afaics all gtk scrollbars don't have grab_notify handlers any more | 09:37 |
| darkxst | ok, that is going to be problematic | 09:38 |
| === ccar_away is now known as ccarella | ||
| mgedmin | ohdear, gnome-terminal 3.14 no longer sets $COLORTERM? | 11:17 |
| mgedmin | darkxst, gtk_range_grab_notify was removed in https://github.com/GNOME/gtk/commit/26dff0d7830b45b61fb4266664e4a5c1f98c4091#diff-0 | 11:25 |
| mgedmin | in case you were curious what changed between 3.12 and 3.14 | 11:25 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, please leave a comment on the bug | 11:28 |
| darkxst | and thanks for looking into this | 11:28 |
| mgedmin | and yes, gnome-terminal stopped setting COLORTERM in https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-terminal/commit/1d5c1b6ca6373c1301494edbc9e43c3e6a9c9aaf | 11:34 |
| * darkxst sleeping now | 11:38 | |
| leenuts | Hello everyone | 12:44 |
| leenuts | Need help on Ubuntu Gnome 14.10, VPN connections | 12:44 |
| leenuts | PPTP | 12:44 |
| leenuts | Cannot ceeate a PPTP connection on fresh install Ubuntu Gnome 14.10. The type does not exist. | 12:45 |
| leenuts | I checked : the plugin is installed. | 12:45 |
| leenuts | Some ideas ? | 12:45 |
| leenuts | Any idea ? | 13:07 |
| * mgedmin never used PPTP | 13:07 | |
| leenuts | network-pptp-gnome | 13:12 |
| leenuts | Do you have the PPTP in VPN list ? | 13:12 |
| leenuts | Parameters > network > add > VPN... | 13:12 |
| leenuts | Anybody ? | 13:36 |
| mgedmin | there's no network-pptp-gnome package in ubuntu | 13:39 |
| mgedmin | system preferences -> network -> [+] -> VPN has only one choice here: "Import from file" | 13:39 |
| leenuts | Hello junkanoo ! | 13:45 |
| leenuts | Who has Ubuntu Gnome 14.10 ? | 13:46 |
| leenuts | mgedmin, you have the same problem than me. | 13:47 |
| leenuts | Ok, how do you create a new PPTP connection, now ? | 13:47 |
| leenuts | In 14.04 ,you have PPTP by default in the list. | 13:48 |
| leenuts | In 14.10, juste import from file. | 13:48 |
| leenuts | just | 13:48 |
| leenuts | Is it normal ? | 13:48 |
| leenuts | If you check, you have the network-pptp-gnome already installed. But no interface in the list. | 13:50 |
| leenuts | Is it a bug ? | 13:51 |
| leenuts | Is there something I can check or try ? | 13:54 |
| mgedmin | I think you mean network-manager-pptp-gnome | 14:01 |
| mgedmin | hm, yes, it's installed | 14:01 |
| mgedmin | I don't see anything about this at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-pptp | 14:03 |
| mgedmin | maybe you want to report a new bug? | 14:04 |
| leenuts | Where ? | 14:07 |
| leenuts | yes network-manager-pptp-gnome | 14:07 |
| leenuts | Where report a bug ? | 14:07 |
| leenuts | Here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome ? | 14:09 |
| mgedmin | Run 'ubuntu-bug network-manager-pptp-gnome' | 14:10 |
| mgedmin | hm | 14:10 |
| mgedmin | actually, now that I think about this | 14:10 |
| mgedmin | is the bug in the N-M plugin or in the control center itself? | 14:10 |
| mgedmin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome is for bugs against PPA packages | 14:11 |
| mgedmin | network-manager-... is in the main archive | 14:11 |
| leenuts | Ok... creating... | 14:14 |
| leenuts | Done ! | 14:23 |
| leenuts | Thanks. | 14:23 |
| leenuts | Goodbye ! | 14:23 |
| lindol | hi all | 14:41 |
| octoquad | greetings all | 16:50 |
| octoquad | I filed this bug last night for fglrx and flgrx-updates failing to install from software-properties: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1386456 | 17:00 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1386456 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Unable to install fglrx or fglrx-updates in software-properties" [Undecided,New] | 17:00 |
| octoquad | If I try to install it manually from the CLI I get a whole bunch of packages that are going to be removed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8721552/ I'm not sure if this correct though, could someone confirm? | 17:01 |
| gfd-in-cpt | Question about Ubuntu-Gnome Desktop. Am I in the correct place to ask? | 19:35 |
| octoquad | yes | 20:12 |
| octoquad | Ubuntu Gnome second favourite desktop http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/ubuntu-10-years-user-survey-results | 21:08 |
| phillip | yeah | 21:11 |
| darkxst | octoquad, the first is possibly correct (ocl-icd-opengl) but not sure why it would want to remove wine, that doesnt seem right | 21:25 |
| darkxst | octoquad, bug 1382563 | 21:32 |
| ubot5 | bug 1382563 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "Cant install proprietary drivers/fglrx" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382563 | 21:32 |
| octoquad | darkxst, I installed it fglrx and fglrx-core and it removed wine, and I tried to install wine afterwards but apt wants to remove fglrx, fglrx-core and fglrx-amdcccle for wine1.4, wine1.6 and wine1.7 (ppa). It is a bit strange. | 22:02 |
| darkxst | you have any ppa's installed? | 22:03 |
| gfd-in-cpt | Looking for help with two issues with the Ubuntu-Gnome desktop. (1.) Would like to be able to Right-Click on desktop and create an empty document. Current Gnome configuration does not allow this. (2.) How do you create a new document using "Files"? | 22:04 |
| octoquad | darkxst, yes: docker, moka stable, owncloud, variety and yorba ppa (california) | 22:08 |
| darkxst | probably on of those is causing the dependency issues - or you have some orphaned packages from trusty ppa's | 22:09 |
| octoquad | gfd-in-cpt, you can add template files in your home folder called Templates. Once you have a file you should be able to create an empty document as well on the desktop | 22:11 |
| octoquad | hmm, any way to find an orphaned packages? | 22:12 |
| darkxst | I think synaptic can show you | 22:14 |
| darkxst | apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate | 22:14 |
| octoquad | thanks, also found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Diet%20Ubuntu | 22:17 |
| octoquad | darkxst, thanks for that, I removed anything I know of and this is all I have left: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8725163/ | 22:44 |
| darkxst | you probably want to downgrade empathy (although that won't be causing your problem | 22:50 |
| darkxst | same with the other few "newer than version in archive" packages | 22:51 |
| darkxst | everything else should be safe to remove | 22:51 |
| gfd-in-cpt | Thanks for response. I will find out how to use the Templates. | 23:04 |
| octoquad | darkxst, thanks, all removed and downgraded but issue persists. It's pretty late this side, so I'll pick this up tomorrow. Appreciate the assistance so far. | 23:11 |
| darkxst | octoquad, aptitude install sometimes provides more useful info to the actual problem package | 23:11 |
| octoquad | it does and it looks like fglrx-core is conflicting with libopencl1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8725441/ | 23:18 |
| gfd-in-cpt | Thanks again. I just created an empty "Untitled Document 1" using gedit and saved it to the Templates folder. Worked like a champ. Most appreciated. | 23:27 |
| darkxst | octoquad, that is correct though, fglrx would provide its own implementation | 23:34 |
| darkxst | although fglrx in the archives does not conflict with ocl-icd-libopencl1 | 23:40 |
| darkxst | you are installing 2:14.201-0ubuntu2? | 23:42 |
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