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dholbachgood morning07:27
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MarcoMuskusHi14:46
jeffjohn2hi all!14:47
balkanhi14:50
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dholbachhey hey14:50
AnszlusSiema14:53
Anszluswhat's up?14:54
Anszlusman what's up?14:55
justCarakaso/14:56
justCarakasonly 3 minutes till the start wiiii14:57
PharmaWhat will be in 15.04?14:59
popey\o/15:00
MarcoMuskusHi15:00
justCarakaspopey when I see you type that I imagine you walking around like Dr. zoidberg15:01
justCarakasits live15:01
Nivex\o/ ^o^ /o/ /o\15:02
jasoncruz98hello15:02
MarcoMuskusHi, there are any plans to create a exclusive version of Ubuntu for GNOME 3.x?15:02
mhall119MarcoMuskus: start questions with "QUESTION:" in all caps like that15:02
NivexDanke. Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut.15:02
mhall119popey: dholbach: UOS!15:02
dholbachhey hey15:03
dholbachmhall119, yep, on our list15:03
who_meQUESTION: SLED/SLES 12 were released and they can boot from BTRFS snapshots. Chances are that OpenSUSE 13.2 is going to have this feature too. Are you guys interested in implementing this type of functionality in future Ubuntu releases?15:03
ildarhi. who from russia?15:03
Sensor0x7Ehi all15:03
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Sensor0x7Eany body have enough experience in Kernel Programming ?15:04
mhall119QUESTION: with colin changing focus, I'd imagine you could use some more help with Click development, where can people go to learn about how to get involved?15:05
justCarakasQUESTION: will unity8 be able to handle .debs ? because if it runs on the desktop and a site doesn't provide a .click we kinda have a problem if there is no way around that15:07
mhall119justCarakas: Unity doesn't care whether an app is installed via .click or .deb15:07
mhall119or by .tag.gz or whatever15:08
mhall119#ubuntu-devel15:08
who_meQUESTION: The latest user survey on omgubuntu shows that 50% of people that responded wanted newer drivers and general better support for gaming. Is there anything being done in this area?15:09
justCarakasQUESTION: won't rolling releases be bad for companies who always want robust and tested software ?15:09
mhall119"C without the nastiness of C"....what's left?15:09
dholbachmhall119, I'm not going to relay that one if that's all right ;-)15:10
mhall119lol15:10
mhall119fine15:10
PharmaIn Ukraine biggest bank (Privatbank) using ubuntu in all work machines!15:11
davmor2QUESTION: mvo_ is there a plan for click_big packages yet to cover all the architectures?  And how harder will it be to create them in comparison to the current thin ones?15:11
mhall119QUESTION: will there be a wider variety of desktop frameworks for Click, such as frameworks that specify the availability of a Java JRE, or Python?15:12
mhall119Pharma: nice!15:12
aikcharQUESTION: How's the Ubuntu systemd migration being tracked? Can't find blueprints on Launchpad. My search-fu may have failed me miserably here.15:12
mhall119aikchar: probably somewhere in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu?searchtext=systemd15:14
aikcharThanks, mhall119. Mostly shows deferred delivery :)15:17
skeritNo dependencies? That seems wasteful. Dependencies don't have to be so complex. I like the way node does it, even though that, too, is rather wasteful.15:19
justCarakasQUESTION: won't not using dependenties result is multiple click packages containing the same frameworks to work around that ? Ss that there is actually a lot of dubble data on the end users system15:19
popeyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseProcess15:20
popeythe checklist mvo mentioned15:20
dholbach<3 mvo15:21
mhall119justCarakas: yes15:27
mhall119it's a tradeoff15:27
mvo_justCarakas: what mhall119 said plus we can do deduplication on the client side if its too much of a problem15:30
mvo_justCarakas: but yeah, definitely a valid concern15:30
dholbachmore questions folks? :)15:33
justCarakasQUESTION: are there plans for more tutorials for starters ? I usually make HTML5 apps but wanted to try QML but I got a bit discouraged because of lack of starters info15:33
c_smith_QUESTION: are there any plans to include MATE 1.9 in the main repos currently?15:33
c_smith_is that popey?15:34
dholbachyes, popey's speaking15:37
mhall119justCarakas: did you follow the QML tutorial?15:40
justCarakasmhall119: I did, but I still felt a bit out of my depth15:40
mhall119justCarakas: you should be able to follow along without knowing any QML, if you get stuck give me a ping in #ubuntu-app-devel so I can make the tutorial easier for you and others15:42
justCarakasok thx mhall11915:43
Maur_How to swicth to Vivid channel on "flo" devices ??15:45
aikcharNo QUESTION: Congratulations to all Ubuntu contributors of yet another awesome release. Thank you all!15:46
who_mepopey, fact is that the latest 340 long-lived nvidia blob fixes Unity dock and top bar flicker that happens with the driver that ships by default with Trusty15:53
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: How is the keyboard layouts handled in Mir?15:58
abdullahThere is bug in xterm. I can't do copy and paste in it.15:59
akiva-thinkpadQUESTION: How do I fork a filemanager app if the filemanager has been given special priveleges?16:00
dholbachthanks!16:03
skeritQUESTION: Will Ubuntu Touch devices be "locked down", will they require being "jailbroken" to get root?16:03
akiva-thinkpadcool beans16:03
dholbachskerit, not that I know of16:04
akiva-thinkpado/16:04
popeyskerit: tricky to answer, thats up to the manufacturer16:04
skeritYeah, I would guess, but I wonder what Canonical's pov is on that. For true convergence it seems important that you have full control16:05
Paradise[QUESTION] My ubuntu is connected to a Sony TV for output. Every time I watch normal TV, turn off the TV at night, and then select output to the ubuntu machine the other day, there is nothing shown although machine is running (seems like no  video  signal after sleep) and cannot wake the TV up. Is there any solution? Thanks.16:10
akiva-thinkpadParadise, erm; missed the boat :)16:10
akiva-thinkpadalso the channel is not for support questions.16:10
akiva-thinkpadParadise, try joining #ubuntu16:11
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busyboxhi19:19
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