[00:00] <Rastart> daftykins thank you but there is none in italian chat at the moment
[00:00] <Rastart> i tried.
[00:00] <daftykins> ok, just checking
[00:00] <daftykins> Rastart: so, nothing from "sudo fdisk -l" ? :)
[00:01] <Rastart> yeah but how can I translate it in english?
[00:01] <Rastart> so you can better help me.
[00:01] <daftykins> just share it in italian then i'll translate it
[00:01] <Rastart> thank you.
[00:01] <EriC^^> a_: oh, so your bookmarks in your pc are shown in the firefox started on the ssh-server
[00:01] <k1l> Rastart: "export LC_ALL=C" all subsequent command output will be english
[00:02] <a_> EriC^^, right
[00:03] <EriC^^> i guess it has to do with the x11 forwarding
[00:05] <EriC^^> yeah, it seems so
[00:05] <EriC^^> a_: x11 can use your home directory, it's a setting
[00:05] <EriC^^> http://www.openssh.com/faq.html#2.7
[00:08] <Rastart> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8711668/
[00:09] <Rastart> kll how to change it back then after this
[00:09] <daftykins> Rastart: the disk we are talking about, is it the 2TB one? sdg?
[00:09] <a_> thats interesting, so if i ssh in a host with x11 enabled, the admin is able to read my home directory, nice
[00:10] <Rastart> yeah exactly.
[00:10] <EriC^^> a_: i think you can disable it
[00:11] <Rastart> daftykins yes.
[00:11] <Jordan_U> a_: EriC^^: It is absolutely not true that using X11 forwarding gives a command running on the remote server direct access to the home directory of the local client.
[00:12] <Rastart> daftykins sometimes it stop to make noise it's weird...
[00:12] <Rastart> now it's so silent...
[00:12] <daftykins> Rastart: Rastart is this a laptop or desktop?
[00:12] <Rastart> desktop
[00:13] <daftykins> Rastart: ok lets write some data to it to start with, "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdg bs=2M count=100" listen for any sound changes
[00:14] <a_> Jordan_U, and what is the reason for the observed behavior (x11 tunneled firefox with all my local stuff)
[00:15] <EriC^^> a_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1865457
[00:16] <EriC^^> a_: an excerpt "Firefox with -no-remote option will force it to not try to talk with an existing Firefox window/process."
[00:17] <Rastart> some sound..but long interval
[00:18] <EriC^^> try /dev/urandom it should be jazzy
[00:18] <EriC^^> :P
[00:18] <daftykins> Rastart: ok run this "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit" and share the link
[00:18] <Rastart> btw what should i do with that..
[00:18] <Rastart> with that command.
[00:18] <Rastart> it does nothing.
[00:19] <Jordan_U> a_: If you open an interactive terminal in the docker container, then run "firefox", are you returned to a prompt immediately, or are you not able to run more commands until you exit firefox?
[00:19] <daftykins> Rastart: it wrote 200MB to the disk, so it would've completed without doing much. it doesn't matter :)
[00:21] <minas114> Is it worth upgrading to ubuntu 14.10?
[00:21] <daftykins> from what?
[00:21] <daftykins> 14.04? no
[00:21] <minas114> 14.04
[00:21] <daftykins> i'd stay with the LTS goodness personally
[00:23] <a_> ok you are right
[00:23] <kahtahs_> 14.10 is still too new. at least wait a few weeks
[00:23] <minas114> daftykins, i used to upgrade in every release, but now I am considering to stay with the 14.04 until the next LTS.. I even set up my /home on a separate partition for this case (when upgrading), but I guess yeah, it's not worth the trouble. Is there a way to get the updated software though?
[00:23] <Avic> i want to install kde in ubuntu is there a recomended guide?
[00:24] <daftykins> minas114: nope
[00:24] <kahtahs_> minas114: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[00:24] <daftykins> Avic: install kubuntu-desktop
[00:24] <Avic> just that?
[00:25] <Avic> thanks
[00:26] <Jordan_U> Rastart: I'm still waiting for the output of "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit" .
[00:26] <minas114> kahtahs_, hmm, from this I understand that there is a risk that something could break
[00:27] <minas114> so what do you guys do to get latest updates / new versions when you are in an LTS release? do you use backports?
[00:27] <k1l> minas114: why do you ask us if you should upgrade? do you have a thing why you should upgrade? that is the question
[00:27] <Rastart> I'm still waiting for ubuntu to install packages :P
[00:27] <k1l> minas114: do you need the latest "stuff" at all?
[00:28] <Rastart> i had to inform before about what you were making me install too...
[00:28] <Rastart> so sorry for this delay i'll give you output as soon as you can.
[00:28] <Rastart> as I can
[00:28] <minas114> k1l, well I need latest stuff for some things. e.g firefox, thunderbird, graphics drivers
[00:28] <kahtahs_> < minas114> kahtahs_, hmm, from this I understand that there is a risk that something could break <- yes, but not that hard to revert again
[00:28] <Rastart> lol sorry my mind is somewhere else.
[00:28] <rimon> How do I get mono 2.10.8.1 on 14.04.1? mono-complete gives me the 3.2.8 JIT, and looking on launchpad I see 2.10.8.1 was superseeded by 3.2.8. But we have problems with 3.2.8, can I manually downgrade?
[00:29] <k1l> minas114: firefox and thunderbird get updates on the LTS like on every other ubunut version that is still supported
[00:29] <minas114> k1l, and new versions major versions too?
[00:29] <k1l> minas114: and on grafix drivers i would prefer a driver that actually works than the bleeding edge stuff that breaks all the time :)
[00:29] <EriC^^> rimon: you might be able to sudo apt-get install <package>=<older version>
[00:29] <rimon> EriC^^, aah I'll try
[00:30] <k1l> minas114: yes. because its to much work to back-patch all the stuff to the old version on browsers. they increase the nubmers too fast
[00:30] <minas114> k1l, good. no reason to upgrade then :)
[00:31] <kahtahs_> minas114: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[00:31] <rimon> EriC^^, "Version '2.10.8.1' for 'mono-runtime' was not found" is there a way to list all possible versions?
[00:31] <minas114> kahtahs_, thanks
[00:31] <k1l> minas114: i mean: you can upgrade. its your choice. but you need to upgrade every 6 months then until you reach a LTS again. you cant stay on one non-lts release for more than 9 months
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[00:32] <k1l> minas114: its not that LTS is like debian oldstable :)
[00:32] <minas114> k1l, yeah, I know that.. that's why I am thinking it a lot :P
[00:32] <minas114> k1l, I'll stay with LTS
[00:33] <EriC^^> rimon: there's apt-show-versions ( a package ), but i think you're going to have to mess around with repos or something to get an older version, i don't know exactly
[00:33] <rimon> EriC^^, much appreciated. I'll give it a shot
[00:33] <EriC^^> !info mono-complete
[00:33] <Rastart> daftykins, Jordan_U, plaeas wait is really slow. don't know why but it's sure another kind of problem lol
[00:33] <kahtahs_> minas114: so in Feb 2015, 14.04.2 will get 14.10's kernel and so on
[00:33] <EriC^^> !info mono-complete precise
[00:34] <EriC^^> rimon: precise has the 2.10.8.1 version
[00:34] <daftykins> Rastart: ok
[00:35] <Mendax1> Who else is present at this time?
[00:35] <Mendax1> Havent been on here in a while
[00:36] <Rastart> Wow!!! this is a really complete manual: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/man/smartctl.8.html
[00:36] <Avic> but i want kde desktop not kubuntu. i'm confused
[00:36] <daftykins> Mendax1: support questions only please
[00:36] <puff`> I upgraded to 14.04 recently, and I've had some mysterious stability issues.  About ten minutes ago the machine just spontaneously rebooted.
[00:36] <daftykins> Rastart: ok but could you run the actual command ;)
[00:36] <Rastart> daftykins, almost done
[00:37] <Rastart> install took long.
[00:37] <Rastart> lol
[00:37] <daftykins> Avic: thats what KDE is :)
[00:37] <puff> Hm, looking at the clock, okay, make that 60 minutes ago.  But a few minutes ago I got this popup "Sorry, ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error", I've gotten it a few times since I upgraded.
[00:37] <daftykins> ubuntu + KDE = kubuntu
[00:37] <Avic> oh
[00:37] <Mendax1> I wi bestow support unto thee
[00:38] <Avic> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ok
[00:38] <Rastart> oh damn what's happening all stopped.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> Rastart: What do you mean by "all stopped"? What was the last command you entered?
[00:39] <Rastart> I'm waiting for no good reason ..
 Rastart: ok run this "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit" and share the link
[00:40] <puff> It's also complaining that "You have some obsolete package versions installed.  Please upgrade the following packages and check if the problem still occurs.  gir1.2-pango-1.0, libpango-1.0-0,libpango1.0-0,libpangocairo-1.0-0,libpangoft2-1.0-0,libpangoxft2-1.0-0,libxml2,python-libxml2,tzdata"
[00:40] <Rastart> ok i'm at the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools part
[00:41] <Rastart> it stopped at smartmontools installation.
[00:41] <Rastart> don't ask me why I don't know.
[00:41] <Jordan_U> Rastart: What do you mean by "it stopped"? Please pastebin the current contents of your terminal window.
[00:42] <Avic> now i need nx server to see it :-D
[00:43] <Avic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX   This is too old...
[00:43] <Abelincoln> whats up people how you chillen
[00:44] <Rastart> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8712057/
[00:44] <droolendug> cold as
[00:45] <Rastart> I hate when I'm trying to solve a problem and other problems come out from nowhere...
[00:45] <daftykins> Rastart: at a guess something is wrong with your OS disk, if it hasn't returned to a prompt yet
[00:45] <Rastart> btw...
[00:45] <daftykins> Rastart: can you come back from a booted live session? e.g. USB
[00:45] <Rastart> it's something I can't solve and i would like to thank you.
[00:46] <Jordan_U> Rastart: Just wait. It will probably continue given enough time.
[00:46] <daftykins> Jordan_U: with my respect, we don't both need to be on this one ;)
[00:47] <Abelincoln> !ops | noo owaa
[00:47] <daftykins> Pici: i was thinking of the same line XD ^5 to you!
[00:48] <Rastart> Jordan_U: i don't think it will continue..that's what I hope..
[00:48] <EriC^^> ctrl+c much?
[00:48] <Rastart> daftykins what if i close terminal and give command again?
[00:48] <daftykins> Rastart: open another terminal to run the next command
[00:48] <Avic> how can i install freenx in ubuntu 14.10?
[00:48] <Rastart> hope nothing so horrible.
[00:49] <daftykins> "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit"
[00:49] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Might want to make that "sudo LANG=C smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit".
[00:49] <drkfdr> my antivirus triggers with all those commands in here xD
[00:49] <Rastart> it does nothing.
[00:49] <Rastart> nothing.
[00:50] <EriC^^> Rastart: it must do something?
[00:50] <daftykins> Jordan_U: no thanks
[00:50] <daftykins> i don't need it in English
[00:52] <Rastart> Eric: my terminal freezed.
[00:53] <Rastart> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit
[00:53] <Stubborn> hello all
[00:53] <EriC^^> Rastart: maybe try to reinstall smartctl?
[00:53] <EriC^^> Stubborn: hello!
[00:54] <Rastart> the process is still running.
[00:54] <Rastart> can't close terminal.
[00:54] <Rastart> :(
[00:54] <daftykins> Rastart: does it respond to ctrl+C?
[00:54] <Stubborn> :) G'day EriC^^
[00:54] <EriC^^> Stubborn: G'day :)
[00:54] <Rastart> KeyboardInterrupt.
[00:54] <Rastart> daftykins ^
[00:55] <Rastart> it says this
[00:55] <EriC^^> Rastart: are you in a tty?
[00:56] <Rastart> desktop pc.
[00:56] <EriC^^> so you're in X ?
[00:56] <Rastart> what you mean? they told me install linux linux is cool you'll have fun...
[00:57] <Rastart> well i got one thing to say.
[00:57] <OerHeks> hold on, you aborted a format :-D
[00:57] <Rastart> better if i don't.
[00:57] <EriC^^> Rastart: are you in the ctrl+alt+f1?
[00:57] <Rastart> think I'm a monkey.
[00:57] <EriC^^> Rastart: or are you in the gui ?
[00:58] <EriC^^> lol
[01:00] <daftykins> OerHeks: what are your thoughts on the format abort?
[01:00] <EriC^^> Rastart: welcome back
[01:01] <Rastart> it opened me a black screen and asked me to log in.
[01:01] <EriC^^> Rastart: are you in the tty ( the console with no graphical interface )
[01:01] <Rastart> I didn't. it restarted.
[01:01] <EriC^^> ok
[01:01] <OerHeks> daftykins, zero that disc and hope it is not-damaged, i have no reason to believe a soft kill hurts that drive
[01:01] <Rastart> have you ever been noob? I been all my life. but don't want to have troubles..why I'm having so many?
[01:02] <Rastart> what have I done to be so "unlucky"?
[01:02] <Rastart> damn.
[01:02] <daftykins> OerHeks: i'm just trying to get the user to check SMART data on it right now, but it seems the OS disk is holding up the operation :/
[01:03] <OerHeks> daftykins, i saw that yeah, but that action didn't run for minutes, also aborted too soon
[01:04] <EriC^^> Rastart: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall smartctl
[01:04] <Rastart> daftykins ok now I'm here again I dunno what exactly happened..have to make "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools" and"sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit" again?
[01:05] <Rastart> ok i'll try. :(
[01:05] <Rastart> ^Eric^^
[01:05] <EriC^^> try what daftykins suggested earlier
[01:06] <daftykins> OerHeks: even though that's a slave disk?
[01:06] <daftykins> (that was being formatted + tested)
[01:06] <francois_> Hello
[01:06] <OerHeks> lets wait for the smrt results :-)
[01:06] <Rastart> Eric I'm in terminal.the one who comes with ubuntu...
[01:07] <Rastart> and I'm here to learn.
[01:07] <EriC^^> ok, great
[01:07] <Rastart> but I suffer when my computer suffer.
[01:08] <EriC^^> lol, are you a poet by any chance? :D
[01:08] <daftykins> Rastart: have you run anything yet?
[01:08] <francois_> francois_: Hello everyone this is my first time here
[01:08] <pathauto> wafflej0ck: Happy to report I finally sorted out the vagrant/ubuntu issues from the other day.
[01:08] <Rastart> Eric: impossible to find package
[01:08] <daftykins> i would probably run "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:08] <Rastart> so have to make the daftykins commands again?
[01:08] <EriC^^> Rastart: yes
[01:09] <Rastart> ok doing it again.
[01:09] <Bashing-om> francois_: Hi ! Welcome, do you have a support question ?
[01:10] <francois_> How do I backup on ubuntu/
[01:10] <daftykins> !backup
[01:10] <OerHeks> ubuntu comes standard with deja-vu backup
[01:10] <francois_> I have a raid 5 Nas drive
[01:10] <jcstarken> if you have a duplicate source issue and it tells you to run sudo apt-get update to correct and you do than you get the same message again 14.04
[01:10] <blueingress> Hi, Now I am using 14.04, How Can I get to upgrade to 14.10?
[01:11] <NegativeFlare> !upgrade | blueingress
[01:12] <Rastart> Yeeeeeeah!!!
[01:12] <Rastart> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8712363/
[01:12] <EriC^^> aiy yay ya
[01:12] <k1l> blueingress: make sure you set the release prompt to normal, instead of lts
[01:13] <Rastart> but I'm feeling like there's still something wrong
[01:13] <daftykins> oh dear
[01:13] <daftykins> yeah that didn't run
[01:13] <Rastart> this is not the imput I expected.
[01:13] <daftykins> Rastart: try the same command but with /dev/sda
[01:13] <Bashing-om> jcstarken: "duplicate source issue " says you need to investigate your sources lists, looking for duplication of any source -> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list , tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- .
[01:14] <Rastart> daftykins: it works with sda.
[01:14] <daftykins> want to post the link?
[01:15] <Rastart> why do you need?
[01:15] <daftykins> i know sda wasn't the target, but now i'm interested due to your earlier issues
[01:16] <jcstarken> Bashing-om: thank you
[01:17] <Rastart> ok I post it to you.
[01:18] <daftykins> Rastart: ok that disk is fine. the other one, (sdg) is it new?
[01:19] <Rastart> no..I used it then formatted it to use on this computer.
[01:19] <daftykins> Rastart: hmm. if you keep trying i assume nothing changes? do just "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg"
[01:20] <EriC^^> it mentioned something about an option to continue
[01:20] <EriC^^> if that doesn't work maybe try the option
[01:21] <Rastart> Read Device Identity failed: scsi error medium or hardware error (serious)
[01:21] <Rastart> A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.
[01:21] <Rastart> and it make sounds.
[01:21] <Rastart> click beep click beep click beep etc.
[01:22] <Rastart> then stop.
[01:22] <Rastart> and do click beep thing again
[01:22] <daftykins> i think you should pursue warranty options with it, Rastart
[01:22] <Rastart> 9 beep-click this time.
[01:23] <RDove> does anyone know if a PA system like a Yamaha PA powered speakers use the full amount of watts if you have the sound down pretty low, like room sound? I was gonna use them as just regular speakers in my house but trying to figure out if my electric bill will be real high
[01:23] <Rastart> 40 seconds passed
[01:23] <Rastart> 9 beep-click again.
[01:23] <EriC^^> maybe the hdd is talking to us in morris code?
[01:24] <EriC^^> :P
[01:24] <EriC^^> please.. kill.. me..
[01:24] <Rastart> ok...
[01:24] <k1l> RDove: that suits better into #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:24] <Rastart> less time passed.
[01:24] <Rastart> like 15 seconds
[01:24] <EriC^^> maybe it's saying that?
[01:24] <Rastart> and 9 beep-clicks again.
[01:24] <Rastart> again now
[01:25] <Rastart> number 9 number 9 number 9
[01:25] <Rastart> lol
[01:25] <Rastart> it's creepy.
[01:25] <daftykins> EriC^^: does that mean it mimics the sound of the Morris Minor car? ;)
[01:26] <Rastart> i don't have warranty options ...
[01:26] <Rastart> i though: "hey!!!who need warranty options?!" and threw it in bin.
[01:26] <daftykins> did you not buy this  hard disk new?
[01:27] <daftykins> just put the serial number into the manufacturer's website
[01:27] <daftykins> unless it's years old already
[01:27] <groverblue> Hey, looking for some help.  Should I post an Ubuntu Forums link, or restate my issue here?
[01:27] <Rastart> ok -t is for test.
[01:28] <daftykins> groverblue: depends how long it is :)
[01:28] <EriC^^> daftykins: :D
[01:28] <Rastart> one or more -t permissive option..
[01:28] <Jordan_U> groverblue: Give at least a short description of the problem here.
[01:28] <Rastart> what does it mean?
[01:28] <EriC^^> Rastart: it said -T, -t could be different
[01:28] <EriC^^> Rastart: it sounds like it could damage the disc or something to do the tests? i don't know..
[01:29] <Avic> Anyone can help me to install freeNX in Ubunu 14.10 please? Thank you.
[01:29] <Rastart> i feel so sad cause i dunno linux enough and I don't like troubles...I like to learn how things work...but when i have troubles i become really sad or angry...
[01:29] <Rastart> or both.
[01:29] <EriC^^> Rastart: type man smartctl , then type /-T , press N to switch to the next match
[01:30] <EriC^^> Rastart: well when you have troubles you learn more how things work
[01:30] <EriC^^> so really you should be happy right now
[01:30] <EriC^^> :P
[01:30] <groverblue> haha.  ok.  Thx.  Was running 14.04 fine on VirtualBox 4.3.16.  Upgraded to 14.10 and system stopped booting (got boot splash screen, with starting and stopping of services in background).  Tried to update VB to 4.3.18, and still get boot splash, but now no logging in background.
[01:30] <hardtail> Hi all, still trying to get Ubuntu working on my T100. Made a new bootable USB and added resolution settings, the screen still stays black when I try to proceed. Not sure what to do.
[01:31] <Rastart> i'm not happy!!! beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click !!!!
[01:31] <groverblue> starting Ubuntu in recovery mode doesn't work.  Tried the systemd trick, but can't get networking working.
[01:31] <Rastart> grrrr...
[01:31] <groverblue> This is my dev guest, so I'm screwed until i get it going again.
[01:33] <Avic> Can I use the packages for made for saucy?
[01:33] <Rastart> I feel like I'm in a submarine and i'm drowning..but first i'm feeling pressure in my ears.and the system is in failure beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click
[01:34] <Rastart> and i can't do nothing because i thrown away submarine warranty!!!!!
[01:34] <wise> Has anybody found youtube video (not audio) intermittently pauses with AMD drivers?
[01:34] <pathauto> Can someone clarify something for me? I just installed ubuntu trusty64 via vagrant and all is working fine. Standard web directory is var/www/html/. If there are files I want to put outside of the directory root, let's say var/www/, by default is this inaccessible to the public or do I need to chmod?
[01:35] <pathauto> New to linux so just getting my head wrapped around things.
[01:35] <Rastart>  beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click beep click
[01:35] <Rastart> only want to share with you my pain :(
[01:36] <xangua> Avic: saucy is no longer supported, please upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[01:37] <groverblue> and here is my forum post if anyone can be of assistance.  Thanks.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250279
[01:38] <Rastart> daftykins thank you for your suggestion
[01:38] <daftykins> Rastart: np
[01:38] <Rastart> btw...
[01:38] <Rastart> can I try to force creating a partition?
[01:39] <sacarlson> pathauto: you would have to change what the one of your virtual hosts point to to access /var/www directory to be seen
[01:39] <Avic> no. its not that. i have the  ubuntu 14.10 i want to install freenx, but in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX#Installing_the_FreeNX_server_on_Ubuntu_Karmic_.289.10.29_and_higher  Only have packages untill saucy xangua
[01:40] <Fleetflame> Can someone remind me how to change how Unity handles certain file extensions?
[01:40] <Rastart> I dunno if it's still mounted btw.
[01:40] <pathauto> I found some info on it. http://nyphp.org/PHundamentals/3_PHP-Site-Structure-Where-Locate-Includes
[01:41] <Avic> should i use this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NomachineNX ?
[01:42] <daftykins> Rastart: i don't think you're doing anything with that disk anymore. try it back in the original computer it came from maybe
[01:42] <Rastart> if it's all lost...I want to try something desperate before surrender.
[01:42] <Rastart> lol
[01:42] <EriC^^> Fleetflame: right click on the file > open with > choose application > set default
[01:43] <sacarlson> Fleetflame: you mean how nautilus handles files when you double click them?
[01:43] <Rastart> the original computer doesn't exist no more.
[01:43] <daftykins> Rastart: ah ok. i must sleep now, so i must pass you to someone else :)
[01:44] <Rastart> i burnt it for overclocking experiments.
[01:44] <Rastart> :D
[01:45] <Fleetflame> sacarlson: more or less
[01:45] <sacarlson> Fleetflame: yes as eric said above me
[01:45] <hardtail> daftykins: hey do you know how to deal with black screen of death during install?
[01:45] <Rastart> daftykins thank you for everything..for your time for your patience..
[01:46] <Rastart> you been really useful even if not solved,I learnt a lot
[01:46] <daftykins> Rastart: no problem :)
[01:46] <daftykins> hardtail: it's my bedtime but...
[01:46] <daftykins> !nomodeset | hardtail try this
[01:47] <hardtail> daftykins : thanks. I tried that last night, ubuntu installed then when it asked me to reboot the screen as black all over again -.-
[01:47] <EriC^^> hardtail: which driver are you using?
[01:47] <Rastart> daftykins you so fast in giving answers to people who need your help
[01:47] <hardtail> eric^^ what does driver mean?
[01:47] <Rastart> are you a bot?
[01:47] <Rastart> :D
[01:47] <Fleetflame> sacarlson, EriC^^: Ok, I got it, but it looked more like right click > open with > "other application" > then take Archive Manager and forget association
[01:47] <EriC^^> hardtail: type lspci -v | grep VGA
[01:48] <hardtail> eric^^ I have no access to terminal
[01:48] <Fleetflame> I'm running an .exe in wine and it kept opening in Archive Manager
[01:48] <EriC^^> hardtail: try ctrl+alt+f1
[01:48] <Rastart> you know a lot you everything i would like to be if only i wasn't that dumb.
[01:48] <sacarlson> Fleetflame: I think there is a botton in the box that makes it remember for next time
[01:48] <hardtail> eric^^ the keyboard commands do not work just like last night
[01:49] <EriC^^> Fleetflame: there's something like set as default or something
[01:49] <hardtail> eric^^ all we can do is "e" to edit entries, "try" "install" "oem install" "check disc" or "c" for command-line
[01:50] <EriC^^> hardtail: did you not install ubuntu?
[01:51] <hardtail> eric^^ : last night when you told me to use nomodeset, i did in fact install ubuntu. then once it was completed it asked me to reboot. then i was back to square one black screen with no grub. i am only able to see grub because i made a new bootable usb installer
[01:52] <EriC^^> ok, so boot the new live usb with nomodeset as well
[01:52] <EriC^^> and check what's going on
[01:52] <EriC^^> what was this setup again, i recall it being hybrid
[01:52] <hardtail> eric^^ its an asus transformerbook t100
[01:52] <hardtail> i am following thi guide http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/
[01:53] <sacarlson> EriC^^: I have an idea.  we should try make a branch of ubuntu that adds at install time a nomodeset option boot in grub for those like hardtail to boot a black screen,  what you think?
[01:55] <EriC^^> sacarlson: you mean it should have a grub entry with nomodeset already there?
[01:56] <sacarlson> EriC^^: yes, I've made other branches of ubuntu before the defaulted by adding skype.  I could also add that.  if it worked they could add it to ubuntu
[01:57] <hardtail> eric^^ i added no mode set and it shows the ubuntu splash again...
[01:58] <sacarlson> EriC^^: but better yet if it detected if a computer needed nomodeset or not, but I'm not that smart to do that
[01:59] <hardtail> eric^^ i'm in, i will do that driver command in terminal now
[01:59] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok
[02:01] <hardtail> eric^^ what info do you need? it gives me many different categories
[02:01] <EriC^^> hardtail: it should only list the VGA
[02:01] <fajung> I'm on ubuntu 14.10 x64, when I chang the window focus, sometime the Bloqnum light turnoff and with it the keyboard layout get changed, how camn I do to avoid that behavior?
[02:01] <Rastart> can someone help me with my puzzling hard disk? beep - click x9 with irregular intervals
[02:02] <hardtail> eric^^ it says usage : lspci [<switches>] and then display options menu, resolving of device ids to names menu...and so on etc
[02:02] <EriC^^> did you type lspci -v | grep VGA ?
[02:02] <Rastart> I stopped it when was formatting and now it doesn't work.wanted to know if there were something i could try to save it.
[02:04] <hardtail> eric^^ i am terribly sorry, i forgot the |..it says vga compatible controller, intel corp valleyview gen 7 vga controller
[02:04] <sacarlson> Rastart: sounds like it might be broke.
[02:04] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, type sudo parted -l
[02:04] <EriC^^> hardtail: can you paste the results in paste.ubuntu.com ?
[02:05] <AlexPortable> how do i restore gnome panel layout? i messed up
[02:05] <hardtail> sure one sec
[02:07] <Rastart> sacarlson: i deleted the ntfs partition and started to format with the new safe method (around 5 hours) but i changed my mind in 5-10 seconds and interrupted the process..
[02:07] <EriC^^> Rastart: why don't you try to format it again?
[02:07] <Rastart> it was still recognizing the device but didn't allow me to format again with the long method.
[02:08] <EriC^^> Rastart: so format with the short one
[02:08] <sacarlson> Rastart: in disk manager there is an assessment called smart that can tell if a harddisk has pending or present hardware problems
[02:08] <Rastart> was formatting using the gnome-disk-utility 3.10.0-1ubuntu3 program from interface
[02:10] <sacarlson> Rastart: I'm not sure what your actions might have caused.  but sounds like you maybe just have to start the partition format process again
[02:10] <Rastart> well they told me to make "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit"
[02:11] <Rastart> but the result was really bad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8712363/
[02:11] <sacarlson> Rastart: ya that will return us the smart data from the disk for us to view oh good
[02:11] <hardtail> eric^^ I am  unable to connect to wifi
[02:11] <hardtail> eric^^ so I can't get to pastebin on that laptop
[02:11] <Rastart> and here we are: beep-click x 9 and dunno what to do.
[02:12] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, which partitions do you see?
[02:12] <Rastart> sacarlson, EriC^^ program I used doesn't recognize the device.
[02:12] <Rastart> no more.
[02:12] <Rastart> I dunno how to make it show it again
[02:13] <Foxhoundz> Ubuntu
[02:13] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l doesn't show it?
[02:13] <Foxhoundz> it seems that apt-get can't find ffmpeg
[02:13] <Foxhoundz> what gives
[02:13] <hardtail> eric^^ fat 32, ext4,  linux-swap v1
[02:13] <Rastart> can I try from terminal? can someone help me in doing that?
[02:13] <EriC^^> !info ffmpeg
[02:13] <sacarlson> Rastart: in the future also add the command line you did to capture the data.  does and disk on the system still work now then?  it looks broken scsi error medium or hardware error (serious)
[02:13] <Foxhoundz> It installs the amazon spyware but it can't install ffmpeg?
[02:13] <EriC^^> !info ffmpeg trusty
[02:14] <Foxhoundz> >:( see
[02:14] <EriC^^> !find ffmpeg
[02:14] <Foxhoundz> oh well
[02:14] <Foxhoundz> I'll compile it from source
[02:14] <Rastart> that's the command I did. "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg | pastebinit"
[02:14] <Rastart> I told you, sacarlson.
[02:15] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, how big is the fat32 ?
[02:15] <kahtahs_> Foxhoundz: ffmpeg was forked to libav and debian followed libav, so there's now avconv instead
[02:15] <Rastart> system doesn't show it as it's mounted.
[02:15] <sacarlson> Foxhoundz: bummers I think they finaly changed the name of ffmpeg.  before they still pointed you to another package with ffmpeg
[02:15] <hardtail> eric^^ 538mb
[02:15] <kahtahs_> !info libav-tools
[02:15] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, is the partition table gpt?
[02:15] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: actually you should do some research before you claim what you did.
[02:16] <Rastart> if I go in files from interface. it doesn't show the disk. in the disk manager it doesn't show.
[02:16] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: talking baout spyware really shows you knowledge. that doesnt look good for you :/  debian did choose avconv about ffmpeg. so did ubuntu follow debian there.
[02:16] <hardtail> eric^^: i am not certain, at the top it says partition is msdos for the fat32, it says the ntfs is gpt but has 3 errors
[02:17] <Foxhoundz> k1l_: It's a known fact. Paint as you will, but it is sending my data without my explicit permission for ad delivery purposes.
[02:17] <Foxhoundz> i.e., a spyware
[02:17] <EriC^^> hardtail: the line below the disk name should say partition type: gpt
[02:17] <linuxmint> Can anyone help clarify my port forwarding? I think I'm missing a step to allow remote access to 3 local computers. pfSense port forward I set computer1IP:portNumber1, computer2IP:portNumber2, computer3IP:portNumber3. Then when I SSH to computer1, I use $ssh computer1UserName@computer1IP -p computer1PortNumber. The pfSense router then sends any received SSH traffic on port 22 to the relevant port. Do I need to change the port numb
[02:17] <linuxmint> er the LAN computer listen on?
[02:17] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: nope. you are running behind the FUD. and demanding ffmpeg and not knowing about avconv is the same
[02:18] <Rastart> and I can't use terminal well cause I'm noob and don't have enough experience with this.
[02:18] <sacarlson> Foxhoundz: k1| ya that's the one avconv  it's like ffmpeg twin branch does almost the same stuf
[02:18] <kaddi> hi, i just upgraded win8 to win8.1 and now there seems to be no grub anymore and therefore no ubuntu. Is there an easy fix for that
[02:18] <Foxhoundz> !find avconv
[02:18] <Foxhoundz> ...?
[02:18] <hardtail> eric^^ gpt i guess
[02:18] <Foxhoundz> so it's libav-tools
[02:18] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, so is this a uefi machine?
[02:18] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: yes it is.
[02:18] <Foxhoundz> ok
[02:19] <hardtail> eric^^ i believe so
[02:19] <Foxhoundz> k1l_: I still cannot believe Ubuntu decided to include that amazon thing
[02:19] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: switch it off on system settings -> privacy settings
[02:19] <Rastart> I would like to know if i can make the hard disk work again.
[02:19] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, get the disk name, and partition number for the ext4 and fat32
[02:19] <hardtail> eric^^ http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/   should i try step 3 and 4 now?
[02:20] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: i dont think you run around calling apple, android or the browsers sypware. so stop that on ubuntu
[02:20] <Rastart> i would try everything it's a 2tb hard disk.....
[02:20] <kahtahs_> k1l_: fsf would
[02:21] <Foxhoundz> k1l_: I'm not calling it anything. The service that delivers the amazon ads is, by definition, a spyware.
[02:21] <Foxhoundz> Android does not do this. Apple does not do this.
[02:21] <sacarlson> Rastart: as I didn't see my question if other hard disks on the system still work,  I'm not sure you have a bad disk or bad controler or interface cable.  you might try it on another sata port
[02:21] <Foxhoundz> They do not actively send out their data to a third party advertising agency to deliver targeted ads.
[02:21] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: m(
[02:22] <Rastart> sacarlston i already tried it on other computers too.
[02:22] <k1l_> Foxhoundz: i think we can drop that topic then in here.
[02:22] <decci> I have 200+ servers running in my data center.  I want monitoring of  1. CPU memory utlisation 2. Disk  3. URL 4. Database 5. LDAP 6. Web Engine 7. Distributed Montoring 8. Role based administration
[02:22] <Rastart> sacarlson so this is not the problem
[02:22] <decci> What tool would be the best
[02:22] <Foxhoundz> k1l_: yeah, that's what I thought. We all have our skeletons in our closet, after all.
[02:23] <sacarlson> Rastart: it's a problem yes most lickly it's the disk but you can try that first
[02:23] <hardtail> eric^^ they are partition number 1 for fat 32 and ext4 is 2, the names are blank
[02:23] <EriC^^> is the disk name /dev/sda ?
[02:24] <Rastart> Eric^^ who are you talking to?
[02:24] <EriC^^> Rastart: hardtail
[02:24] <hardtail> eric^^ for msdos fat 32 i think so.
[02:24] <Rastart> ok sorry ..keywords you know...
[02:24] <Rastart> lol
[02:25] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[02:25] <kahtahs_> decci: did you look into nagios?
[02:25] <sacarlson> Rastart: oh ok tired it on another computer well that's about it then.  give it to a friend as a gift.  tell him it has some cool videos on it he should want to watch,  that will make sure it's broken and if it's not your freind owes you another gift on your birthday
[02:25] <hardtail> eric^^ does not exist
[02:25] <EriC^^> hardtail: hmm
[02:25] <decci> kahtahs_: Nagios has pain of running nagios agent running on all client
[02:26] <sai> hello. wanna ask some off-topic question, i'm trying to compile gtk3 app on xubuntu, but failed with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8713078/ message
[02:26] <decci> kahtahs_: any script available which can get monitoring?
[02:26] <hardtail> eric^^ did you see the link i sent you? do you think that needs to be done first?
[02:26] <EriC^^> hardtail: type sudo blkid | grep ext
[02:26] <hardtail> eric^^ i just find it interesting that in his guide he had no issues with 'nomodeset' ok one second sir
[02:26] <EriC^^> what's the first name it gives
[02:26] <sacarlson> EriC^^:  change your name I can't find that ^ over the 6 hard for me to find ha ha
[02:27] <lizzie_> my sound was working, and all of a sudden it stopped... can someone please point me in the right direction for a fix?
[02:27] <hardtail> eric^^ nothing is returned...just a blank line lol
[02:27] <EriC^^> sacarlson: just use tab-completion
[02:28] <EriC^^> hardtail: ok, type sudo blkid
[02:28] <sacarlson> EriC I did that and get this
[02:28] <EriC^^> do you get anything about ext ?
[02:28] <hardtail> eric^^ it's like something is wrong with the terminal, lines no longer start with ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[02:28] <EriC^^> sacarlson: file a bug to your irc client's developer :P
[02:28] <hardtail> it won't accept commands
[02:29] <EriC^^> hardtail: type reset
[02:29] <EriC^^> wait
[02:29] <EriC^^> do they start with > ?
[02:29] <hardtail> eric^^ doesn't do anything
[02:29] <hardtail> eric^^ no, the lines are completely blank, they start with nothing
[02:29] <EriC^^> odd
[02:29] <hardtail> new terminal?
[02:29] <EriC^^> close it and open another i guess
[02:29] <EriC^^> yeah
[02:30] <hardtail> typed sudo blkid and it did the same thing
[02:30] <hardtail> flashing square
[02:30] <Rastart> sacarlson nice idea..but I prefer to watch my own videos..i don't think i have so close friends.
[02:30] <EriC^^> hardtail: odd
[02:30] <EriC^^> try efibootmgr -v
[02:30] <EriC^^> does it mention anything about ubuntu?
[02:31] <sacarlson> Rastart: ok give it to your enimy then
[02:31] <hardtail> it says the program is not installed Eric^^ and i can install it, but i have no wifi lol
[02:31] <EriC^^> hehe
[02:31] <kahtahs_> decci: script? something like sensu maybe
[02:32] <EriC^^> hardtail: try lsblk
[02:32] <hardtail> eric^^ ok. what do you need?
[02:32] <EriC^^> can you identify the size of the ext partition?
[02:32] <decci> kahtahs_: sensu...looks good..is it free
[02:33] <decci> kahtahs_: Its not free
[02:33] <Rastart> sacarlson so you telling me there's nothing I can do..
[02:33] <hardtail> eric^^ sda is 7.8gb ....... mmcblk0 is 29gb
[02:33] <Rastart> to keep my hard disk for my personal use?
[02:34] <EriC^^> hardtail: in sudo parted -l , how big was the ext one?
[02:34] <Avic> can anyone help me with this guide please?
[02:35] <Avic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NomachineNX
[02:35] <hardtail> eric^^ it won't load anymore :S
[02:35] <Avic> Change the owner of the nx user public key on the server
[02:35] <Avic> sudo chown nx:root /usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/authorized_keys2
[02:36] <EriC^^> hardtail: yikes
[02:36] <Avic> chown: cannot access ‘/usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/authorized_keys2’: No such file or directory
[02:36] <sacarlson> Rastart: sounds like you gave it a good try assuming you see the same on both computers as it fails to comunicate on the interface anymore.  some of the info gave me may have been misunderstood so...
[02:36] <hardtail> eric^^ it loaded now but not the same as before, just the fat32 and ntfs are there
[02:37] <Rastart> no it is recognized by terminal
[02:37] <Rastart> someway
[02:37] <Rastart> i dunno they told me to do something to list devices
[02:38] <Rastart> and that hard disk was shown
[02:39] <Rastart> then they told me to do "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdg"
[02:39] <Rastart> and it told me  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8712363/
[02:40] <crocket> How do I apply /etc/network/interfaces after adding a bridge on ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[02:40] <Rastart> I think for some reason i can't do from interface...
[02:40] <crocket> "/etc/init.d/networking restart" doesn't apply it.
[02:40] <Rastart> i need someone who is good with terminal to help me out
[02:40] <crocket> "restart networking" fails, too.
[02:40] <decci> I have  a website and I want to add chat windows into my website
[02:40] <decci> What tool do you recommend
[02:41] <sacarlson> Rastart: you might try disk manager to see how it see's it
[02:41] <reisio> decci: I don't
[02:41] <decci> reisio: Thanks
[02:42] <ki7mt> crocket, try: sudo service network-manager restart
[02:42] <crocket> ki7mt, It doesn't have network-manager.
[02:42] <ki7mt> crocket, Ok, well, that aint gonna work then :-) .. what does it have ?
[02:42] <crocket> networking service
[02:43] <crocket> ki7mt, As I said above
[02:43] <AlexPortable> when i rightclick with alt on the top panel in gnome fallback, i get the menu like i'm clicking an application, even while i have nothing open
[02:43] <AlexPortable> how can i find out which program causes this and how can i fix it?
[02:44] <Rastart> i'm installing partitionmanager 1.0.3-2ubuntu2
[02:44] <Rastart> see if i'm lucky this time
[02:48] <ki7mt> crocket, Is this a server or desktop install
[02:48] <Rastart> installing gparted 0.18.0-1 too
[02:48] <crocket> ki7mt, server
[02:48] <Rastart> trying some randomly.
[02:48] <ki7mt> crocket, more info: http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Network-Bridge.html
[02:48] <sacarlson> Rastart: gnome-disks  might already be installed  it was the default disk manager
[02:49] <lizzie_> my sound was working, and all of a sudden it stopped... can someone please point me in the right direction for a fix?
[02:50] <Rastart> yeah and it doesn't recognize the hard disk
[02:50] <sacarlson> Rastart: nothing like a broken disk drive to teach you everything you did and didn't even want to know about disk drives ha ha
[02:50] <ki7mt> crocket, And here another, that seems more normal with naming: http://theurbanpenguin.com/wp/?p=2767
[02:51] <Rastart> sacarlson: well it was showing...then i clicked something and...
[02:53] <Rastart> OK!!!!
[02:53] <Rastart> i got sdg with gparted
[02:53] <Rastart> it shows me it.
[02:54] <Rastart> so i suppose there's still something i can do.
[02:54] <Rastart> it shows me the 2 tb partition and tells me that is not allocated
[02:54] <sacarlson> crocket: can we see how you attempted to add the bridge with a paistbin of /etc/networks or whatever you did?
[02:55] <Rastart> it tells me that disk tag is not recognized.
[02:55] <crocket> sacarlson, ki7mt : https://bpaste.net/show/d1432d23da92
[02:55] <crocket> It is /etc/network/interfaces
[02:56] <sacarlson> Rastart: oh that good progress now just partition and format it or if data on it you want fsck to fix it
[02:57] <sacarlson> crocket: cool it's been some time since I setup a bridge so will take me a bit
[02:57] <ki7mt> crocket, compare your setup with the second post I sent above.
[02:58] <Rastart> how to make a good fsck without create other damages?=
[02:58] <crocket> ki7mt, http://theurbanpenguin.com/wp/?p=2767 doesn't work on ubuntu server 14.04.1 LTS
[02:59] <reisio> Rastart: shutdown -F
[02:59] <ki7mt> crocket, which part isn't not working, how far do you get before it fails.
[03:00] <crocket> ki7mt, networking is now an upstart service.
[03:00] <crocket> The article assumes it is an sysvinit script.
[03:00] <crocket> "restart networking" fails, too.
[03:00] <Rastart> reisio: thank you.
[03:01] <Rastart> :)
[03:02] <ki7mt> crocket, Ok, set according to the manpage for 14.04 then, then reboot if that's the only way you can get it to restart: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/bridge-utils-interfaces.5.html
[03:02] <reisio> Rastart: :)
[03:02] <Rastart> damn I'm creating a partition
[03:02] <sacarlson> crocket: if your going to bridge ports don't you need at least two nics to bridge?  like bridge_ports eth0 eth1
[03:02] <Rastart> finally after hours of work
[03:03] <Rastart> now let me try the shutdown stuff.
[03:03] <Rastart> :D
[03:03] <reisio> Rastart: yayz
[03:03] <reisio> Rastart: you can probably just mount -o remount,ro /, too, but don't quote me on that
[03:03] <ki7mt> crocket, and sudo service networking restart should work on a 14.04 server, if it doesn't, you have something else amiss.
[03:04] <sacarlson> Rastart: see you would have made the friend you gave it too very happy after all and he would no longer be your enimy.   no good work!
[03:05] <Rastart> I'm working while the hard disk keep doing beep-click.
[03:05] <reisio> if your hard disk is clicking, just replace it
[03:05] <sacarlson> reisio: he's like me he never wants to throw anything away Rastart
[03:06] <reisio> you don't have to throw it away
[03:06] <Rastart> reisio i'll replace it when it will explode
[03:06] <Rastart> it's a 2tb hard disk
[03:06] <Rastart> I used it for not more than 1 year.
[03:06] <Rastart> and i haven't used it enough
[03:07] <sacarlson> reisio: 2tb Rastart and us boys must know what that's good for
[03:07] <Rastart> putting videos in it.
[03:08] <reisio> sacarlson: eh?
[03:09] <lenin> hi
[03:09] <Rastart> i feel like is ready to explode
[03:09] <Rastart> but I don't want to surrender
[03:09] <crocket> Somehow, /etc/init/networking.conf can't stop networking.
[03:11] <ki7mt> crocket, reboot the box, then see if you can control networking <start, stop, etc>
[03:11] <ki7mt> crocket, you should the interface is up and running properly.
[03:12] <ki7mt> should also check the interface .. ..
[03:12] <graamont> so hard to password recovery in gmail
[03:12] <adante> should try skype
[03:14] <Rastart> damn...
[03:14] <Rastart> interrupted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[03:14] <reisio> adante: http://talky.io/
[03:14] <Rastart> wait must try some more physical approach
[03:14] <Rastart> see you later.
[03:17] <sacarlson> crocket: it's been so long ago since I used bridging I think it must have changed as this is more the way I did it back in the day https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[03:19] <dylan> kodi
[03:24] <crocket> sacarlson, ki7mt : I found the secret of managing network interfaces on ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[03:24] <crocket> I can't use /etc/init.d/networking if upstart is the init deamon.
[03:24] <crocket> I can't use /etc/init/networking.conf to manage interfaces.
[03:24] <crocket> I can use /etc/init/network-interface.conf to manage individual interface.
[03:25] <ki7mt> crocket, ok
[03:25] <crocket> I could invoke "ifup" or "ifdown" on an interface.
[03:26] <sacarlson> crocket: very good.  but at times ifup and ifdown fails for me and I revert back to old method of ifconfig eth0 down  ; ifconfig eth0 up ;
[03:26] <crocket> So!!!
[03:26] <rodroma>  /JOIN #debian
[03:27] <crocket> debian doesn't use upstart.
[03:27] <crocket> Or does it
[03:27] <rodroma> lol
[03:27] <crocket> ok
[03:27] <crocket> I thought ubuntu was the only one using it.
[03:28] <crocket> Ubuntu and debian will adopt systemd soon.
[03:29] <sacarlson> crocket: I just put it all in my own scripts and bypass both methods /etc/init/ /etc/init.d  to be safe
[03:29] <karunamon> Hi folks - I've got a 14.04 server here (No X) that shows grub correctly but then drops to a black screen where i should be seeing a login prompt. Adding 'nomodeset' to the boot params gives me a working terminal, but scrolling on it is super slow. Any idea how I can speed that up?
[03:30] <reisio> karunamon: is the text big?
[03:30] <ki7mt> sacarlson, something is still amiss though, as I've never used ifup / ifdown to control nics on a sever install
[03:31] <karunamon> reisio: It starts out that way where it says "INIT: Version etc booting", then immediately shrinks and slows down
[03:32] <karunamon> I'm almost certain that the mode that's being chosen is too high for the monitor i've got connected (which maxes at 1024x768), i'm just not sure where it's getting its settings from after Grub picks up
[03:32] <karunamon> *drops off, that is
[03:33] <sacarlson> ki7mt: I think ifup ifdown should work if you don't mix it with ifconfig eth0 up |down . as why I get errors I guess
[03:33] <reisio> karunamon: if it shrinks, it's adding overhead to do so
[03:33] <reisio> karunamon: part of why kms by default is stupid
[03:33] <reisio> I hate that approach
[03:33]  * reisio stabs kernel guys
[03:34] <karunamon> Heh.. this particular bugbear is one that i've been fighting with for a long time
[03:34] <karunamon> except now I don't have an extra screen to connect to work around it :/
[03:34] <reisio> ssh
[03:35] <karunamon> i mean I don't have an extra screen to replace the system console with
[03:35] <karunamon> (and sorry to that guy I just highlighted)
[03:36] <karunamon> so the console I have now is 1024x768x32 according to `fbset`
[03:36] <karunamon> which is the right res for the monitor, but why is scrolling so bloody slow?
[03:37] <reisio> 'cause you disabled the native, best support
[03:38] <reisio> and it's much larger than it needs to be
[03:38] <reisio> why aren't you using X?
[03:39] <karunamon> way too much overhead - this is a server after all
[03:39] <sacarlson> karunamon: so just ssh into it from your nice X
[03:40] <karunamon> :) I'd like to actually fix this though
[03:40] <karunamon> for whatever it's worth, CentOS on the same machine doesn't behave like that. I still get the nice framebuffer at 1024x768, but it's accelerated like you'd expect
[03:40] <karunamon> I just am not familiar enough with the linux/ubuntu internals to divine what is happening differently here
[03:42] <Surendil> night people
[03:42] <sacarlson> karunamon: does it change video mode if you do a <ctl> <alt> f2  ....f3 ... f4?
[03:43] <karunamon> sacarlson: Nope.
[03:43] <karunamon> though the refresh is slow enough you can actually see it repaint the screen from top to bottom. It's a neat effect :P
[03:43] <sacarlson> karunamon: ok so I would guess it's always at the grafic mode then
[03:58] <tomas> hola a todos mi nombres es Tomas
[03:58] <Guest17794> y soy de chile
[03:59] <reisio> no soy condor
[04:00] <sacarlson> karunamon: I think your running vga=XXX at some wrong setting in grub try some other codes as seen here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/archtoad6-147095/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-and-lilo-830/
[04:01] <sacarlson> karunamon: if those have no effect then I guess your in some weard graphic mode I've never seen
[04:01] <karunamon> oh wow, I thought all of that stuff was deprecated and unusable
[04:01] <karunamon> ok, let me mess around with that a bit
[04:03] <niop>  hi, i have ubuntu (running docker), and on trying to install apache2 get an error on start, not uncommon it seems, make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80.  diagnostic info in gist https://gist.github.com/anonymous/781a458164b501ae6f2d.  wondering why so many nginx processes listed? might be causing apache2 error.
[04:05] <karunamon> so far doing 'nomodeset vga=771' makes it the fastest
[04:05] <karunamon> it's still got scroll lag, but it's bearable
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> vga= is deprecated, you should use "set gfxpayload=" instead.
[04:08] <reisio> I wouldn't use either
[04:08] <reisio> if you want graphics, use X
[04:08] <reisio> if you want a big non-X term, remote in
[04:09] <karunamon> unfortunately neither of those things deal with the problem of having a usable system console
[04:09] <karunamon> if networking gets borked, i'm going to destroy the keyboard banging my head on it within 5 seconds in the default nomodeset mode
[04:09] <somsip> niop: if nginx is already bound to :80 (which it is according to netstat) than apache won't be able to bind to it. You need to proxy one server through the other
[04:10] <karunamon> but out of curiosity, @reisio, what's a good mostly-keyboard-driven WM?
[04:12] <reisio> karunamon: wmii
[04:12] <niop> somsip: ok.. apparently discovered that as nginx is being used, that apache2 isn't needed.  was following a instruction set and hence there why trying to add apache2 in, unnecessarily. thanks
[04:12] <reisio> karunamon: just disable framebuffer entirely, it's all overhead
[04:12] <karunamon> reisio: 'nofb' in the kernel flags?
[04:13] <eaglgenes101> Ihave zero clue why I'm here
[04:13] <reisio> karunamon: probably something in that default grub file
[04:13] <reisio> is the way you're meant to do it
[04:16] <sacarlson> karunamon: I found more codes that might be better if they number is less than 0x200 it should be in the vga mode that should I think be the faster https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
[04:18] <sacarlson> karunamon: ya and as SonikkuAmerica states I read at some points at least for some grafic cards that vga codes are depricated
[04:23] <Foxhoundz> eaglgenes101: because of me
[04:24] <eaglgenes101> um ok im outta here
[04:25] <sacarlson> niop: sounds like you have some other application listening on port 80 try  sudo netstat -pant  ;  to find out what it is
[04:29] <niop> some useful output there by the look of it. not quite sure what it means exactly as yet, but something to work on.  thanks
[04:36] <sacarlson> niop: so your not going to show it to us?  also I should assume you read and follow the docker.io instructions and about it's lack of support for other than amd64 platform
[04:38] <sacarlson> niop: sorry I was reading and missed some stuf you already provided
[04:39] <niop> actually i didn't know that. but the host provider, digital ocean, provides "droplets" with docker installed.  so it would seem it doesn't see too much of a problem with docker running on it's ubuntu machines.
[04:40] <niop> amd though being the hardware.. i guess digitalocean uses intel or something other than amd.
[04:40] <niop> *sorry, uses amd.
[04:40] <sacarlson> niop: no amd64 is 64bit mode it also runs on intel
[04:42] <niop> there's a few things listed in the netstat output, but as long apache2 inst' installed, which wouldnt' seem is necessary with nginx, the error doesn't happen, and that being so could save myself the trouble of figuring out what things listed in that output are there.
[04:42] <niop> ic.. as it happens it's a 64 bit ubuntu setup.. so that's one less thing to worry about.
[04:43] <sacarlson> niop: ya sounds like your set, if nginx will work for your app your good to go
[04:44] <niop> other than the grammar of course. but fortunately this is a coding forum ;)
[04:45] <sacarlson> niop: I've never used docker.io but it sounds like it basicly replaces the need for apt-get.  if done correctly it should have installed everything needed for you
[04:47] <niop> setting up an ssl cert.  there seems to be the host environment of docker, the ubuntu ssystem in which docker is running, and the containers that docker is responsible for.
[04:47] <niop> the ssl stuff seems to be happening on the outside of docker.  i guess.
[04:50] <niop> not quite sure of the complete detailed picture as yet, but it tends to come about piecemeal and gradually.  unless one has the luxury to cover texts or extended tutes.
[04:52] <niop> the fun is going to come i expect when setting up in addition to an http server running in a node.js container, a push notification server running in another container. possible issues with ports.
[05:02] <niop> sacarlson: actually, appears not quite going.  apache2 is required in the next part of the instructions for setting up ssl cert. for this cmd: sudo a2enmod ssl
[05:03] <niop> not sure why nginx is running in the host.. it might run in the docker container, but wouldn't see why necessary outside the container. any ideas?
[05:05] <scx> Hello
[05:05] <scx> Does anyone know what this is?: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/10/28/antena_8.jpg
[05:06] <scx> (what kind of antenna connector)
[05:09] <gr33n7007h> scx, looks a bit like a rp-sma connector, I maybe wrong
[05:10] <niop> sacarlson: output of output of netstat -pant, that you mentioned before. nginx is using port 80, which is why apache2 wont start up.  i guess that's nginx running in a docker container. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/07d43d15deb29d34a1a0   there must be a nginx way of activating ssl, rather than through apache2.
[05:11] <scx> gr33n7007h: thanks
[05:11] <Asli_Nakli> HHI
[05:11] <Asli_Nakli> Hi
[05:12] <Asli_Nakli>  i am having key board lag in ubuntu 14.04
[05:12] <Asli_Nakli> please help me
[05:13] <sacarlson> niop: yes nginx also supports ssl port with certs.  I'm not sure how it should be handled with your docker.io or not http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/configuring_https_servers.html
[05:14] <niop> ta
[05:17] <pzkpfw> Is there a spyware/adware/tracking software scan program for ubuntu? Is one even useful?
[05:22] <bazhang> pzkpfw, firefox has some adblock extensions
[05:22] <pzkpfw> yeah I use those, donottrack, google/fb/twitter disconnect already
[05:22] <pzkpfw> referrer control
[05:22] <bazhang> pzkpfw, ghostery and noscript as well
[05:22] <pzkpfw> noscript usually ends up messing with too much content if I remember
[05:23] <pzkpfw> I'll check out ghostery
[05:23] <bazhang> pzkpfw, there is also a flash cookie blocker/deletion tool
[05:23] <pzkpfw> thanks baz
[05:23] <pzkpfw> bazhang,
[05:23] <bazhang> np
[05:44] <vastkahuna> how do i check ubuntu in the terminal for broken or missing packages?
[05:48] <vastkahuna> Can somebody help me?
[05:51] <Flannel> vastkahuna: There's a few ways to do variations on that theme.  `apt-get check` would probably work, or `apt-get --dry-run update` should both tell you about issues.
[05:56] <vastkahuna> I got nothing from that, is there a step I'm missing?
[06:09] <sagar__> Hi everyone, I was upgrading my machine from 14.04 to 14.10 but it got stuck at some point and I have rebooted it...now when I enter the password nothing happens next
[06:09] <sagar__> can anyone help me How to solve this issue ?
[06:09] <pzkpfw> I had problems with this as well
[06:09] <pzkpfw> Reinstall didn't help either
[06:09] <pzkpfw> I don't remember how it eventually worked :/
[06:10] <pzkpfw> I think one time I reinstalled it and it started working
[06:10] <pzkpfw> It's a 2008 Thinkpad T61
[06:10] <pzkpfw> sagar__,
[06:10] <sagar__> pzkpfw yes
[06:10] <Seveas> sagar__: log into recovery mode, and do dpkg --configure -a; apt-get -f install; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <Seveas> and repeat until none of them throw errors
[06:10] <pzkpfw> ^that's what I did
[06:10] <pzkpfw> hah
[06:12] <sagar__> Seveas while installing the ubuntu-desktop it is saying you have unmet dependancies ..
[06:14] <Seveas> sagar__: did you do all the other commands?
[06:14] <sagar__> yes
[06:14] <Seveas> do them again. Do they throw errors as well?
[06:15] <sagar__> Seveas no they don't throw any errors
[06:15] <Seveas> odd. What are the unmet dependencies?
[06:16] <sagar__> Seveas Depends : ubuntu-session  recommends : empathy
[06:17] <lizzie_> my sound was working, and all of a sudden it stopped... can someone please point me in the right direction for a fix?
[06:17] <Seveas> sagar__: pastebin your sources.list and the contents of sources.list.d please
[06:18] <sagar__> Seveas yeah give me a min :)
[06:18] <moritzs> i've got a horrible rendering performance with XMonad after upgrading to 14.10 e.g. chrome stutters while scrolling. CPU governance is on performance, i've got an i7 4xxx. someone has an advice to track the issue?
[06:18] <lizzie_> alsamixer is set to HDA intel HDMI
[06:22] <sagar__> Seveas : here : http://fpaste.org/145702/77223141/
[06:26] <sagar__> seveas you need the contents of the dir source.list.d ?
[06:28] <slyrus> moritzs: what kind of video card/gpu?
[06:30] <moritzs> slyrus, intel iri 5200
[06:30]  * lizzie_ points to her query, which is ahead of mortizs
[06:30] <sagar__> Seveas here : http://fpaste.org/145704/47781114/
[06:30] <moritzs> i made a gl benchmark and it looks  good
[06:30] <lizzie_> i'm jus' sayin'
[06:31] <slyrus> hrm.... I had similar problems with an nvidia gpu that went away after reinstalling the nvidia drivers. sounds like a different (but maybe similar?) problem here.
[06:31] <Seveas> sagar__: are there any repsoitories in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.d that have not been disabled?
[06:31] <Seveas> if so, disable them and retry
[06:31] <moritzs> lizzie_, you're not talking with me, right?
[06:31] <Seveas> if it still fails, apt-get install the failing dependency to dig deeper
[06:32] <moritzs> slyrus, do you think it's an issue of graphics card?
[06:32] <slyrus> graphics drivers
[06:32] <ZZRMike> I'm trying to grep against some files for text in between an opening and closing tag in an xml file, but I can't for the life of me figure out the syntax for it. Can anyone help me?
[06:33] <slyrus> in my case it seemed as if the GPU wasn't being properly utilized -- somewhat analogous to the low-graphics mode, although the resolution was actually OK.
[06:34] <slyrus> ZZRMike: use an XML parsing tool?
[06:34] <FilthyMacNasty> I lost my grip on grep
[06:34] <Seveas> ZZRMike: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags
[06:34] <ZZRMike> Right after I asked I found something that worked, thanks :)
[06:34] <lizzie_> and aplay -l gives me both:  card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: VT1802 Analog [VT1802 Analog] AND card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 2: VT1802 Alt Analog [VT1802 Alt Analog]
[06:35] <lizzie_> wow, seriously, i'd think i was invisible, except that mortiz spoke to me
[06:36] <somsip> lizzie_: it's not a queuing system here. It depends on who knows the answer and can help.
[06:36] <FilthyMacNasty> lizzie_: poke..nope youre there
[06:36] <sagar__> Seveas I didn't get you :(
[06:37] <FilthyMacNasty> lizzie_: what seems to be bothering you today?
[06:37] <vastkahuna> I think I have missing or broken packages in ubuntu, how do I fix?
[06:38] <FilthyMacNasty> vastkahuna: open terminal type sudo apt-get -f install, then password and y
[06:39] <lizzie_> FilthyMacNasty no sound
[06:39] <FilthyMacNasty> version of ubuntu?
[06:39] <lizzie_> 14.04
[06:40] <FilthyMacNasty> http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1404/
[06:40] <lizzie_> FilthyMacNasty *beam* thankee
[06:41] <FilthyMacNasty> amazing what google no sound ubuntu 14.04 will bring up
[06:41] <lizzie_> FilthyMacNasty, oh, i neglected to say that i'd already tried that
[06:41] <lizzie_> so thanks anyway
[06:41] <vastkahuna> This is what i got,http://pastebin.com/0bbAumb5
[06:42] <lizzie_> and, FilthyMacNasty ... sarcasm noted
[06:42] <somsip> vastkahuna: so why do you think you have broken packages?
[06:42] <sagar__> Seveas How to check that the repos are not disabled ?
[06:42] <FilthyMacNasty> then nothing is broken
[06:43] <lizzie_> FilthyMacNasty,  that fix had to do with a new install.. i have not done a new install, and sound worked until a week ago
[06:43] <vastkahuna> My cd's won't play but I have sound otherwise, plus when I finished upgrading ubuntu it said some things failed to upload
[06:44] <FilthyMacNasty> do you keep your /home on a seperate partition?
[06:44] <somsip> vastkahuna: what things?
[06:45] <vastkahuna> I don't know but I think it may have to do with my cd/dvd player
[06:46] <vastkahuna> Also I tried to run updates earlier and it failed
[06:46] <somsip> vastkahuna: log in /var/log/apt/history.log and check
[06:46] <somsip> *look in
[06:46] <somsip> vastkahuna: update just worked fine though didn't it?
[06:46] <makara> hi. I want 14.04 to detect and automount my Kindle Fire HDX when I plug it in. Usually I have to open gmtp and use that interface to transfer files :(
[06:47] <vastkahuna> No update did not work
[06:47] <somsip> vastkahuna: post the error message? *paste* the error message in paste.ubuntu.com
[06:49] <lizzie_> Filthy, so you don't know?
[06:49] <FilthyMacNasty> I'm drilling down through google and I'm no help
[06:50] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/mBaraJe3
[06:51] <sagar__> Seveas ping
[06:52] <hateball> lizzie_: are you trying to have sound through internal speakers or over HDMI?
[06:53] <somsip> vastkahuna: so a PPA you are using is not responding. Try disabling it if you want to update cleanly.
[06:53] <hateball> lizzie_: I'm asking, because by default I think HDMI is muted unless you also send video over hdmi
[06:53] <hateball> lizzie_: On Intel HD*
[06:53] <somsip> vastkahuna: but if it provides packages that replace official packages you could be in a mess and may need to use !ppa-purge
[06:53] <vastkahuna> How do I do this?
[06:54] <somsip> vastkahuna: do what?
[06:54] <vastkahuna> Disable non responsive ppa
[06:55] <somsip> vastkahuna: rename the files in /etc/apt-get/sources.d
[06:57] <geirha> aye, renaming it from "foo.list" to "foo.list.disabled" will disable the ppa
[06:59] <vastkahuna> I don't know how to do that, renaming files, what command do i use?
[06:59] <lizzie_> hateball,  why would it have recently reset itself?
[06:59] <lizzie_> and, hateball , how do i discern between internal speakers and hdmi?
[07:01] <sagar__> Seveas disabled and tried again but no luck :(
[07:01] <hateball> lizzie_: Dunno, broken package? Also I don't know how you can tell in Unitys volume-applet, I run KDE Plasma
[07:01] <hateball> lizzie_: I was just wondering if it was the same behavior, might be easier to google
[07:02] <lizzie_> hateball, my sound is set to digital stereo hdmi output
[07:02] <lizzie_> hateball, thanks for the input
[07:05] <evilbug> do you think ubuntu server would run on a raspberry pi?
[07:05] <somsip> evilbug: there is no version of ubuntu for pi
[07:05] <evilbug> ah.
[07:06] <sacarlson> somsip: evilbug  oh I thought raspberry pi would run ubuntu I'll have to look
[07:07] <evilbug> sacarlson: it runs debian, i know that.
[07:08] <somsip> sacarlson: there is no version of ubuntu for the pi
[07:08] <evilbug> that's sad :(
[07:08] <Farva> On our one server machine, we are running a few different IPs, on one IP, everyone connects just fine (iftop example-http://gyazo.com/2e962762f24c46a4b533a953aed9bc95), on the other, there are a few that are lagging heavily. (same person on the other IP: http://gyazo.com/3837b0e2aec3339ca045078ca9765dd8) How do I trouble shoot this?
[07:09] <somsip> evilbug: if you're so sad about it, contribute here https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu
[07:09] <somsip> evilbug: but this is offtopic here so continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to
[07:09] <vastkahuna> How do I disable non responsive ppa?
[07:13] <sacarlson> somsip: evilbug ya your right as ubuntu doesn't have binary repository that support ARMv6 only ARMv7 and up,  but debian is close enuf as it does support ARMv6
[07:14] <evilbug> sacarlson: righty-o. i'm currently running ubuntu server on my eeepc home server and considering retiring it for a pi.
[07:14] <somsip> evilbug: Raspian is your (offtopic) solution
[07:14] <wutang> hello
[07:15] <evilbug> somsip: yup, got that.
[07:17] <wutang> can someone help me with the install im doing on an install with a pc that lacks a optical drive and then ps/2  port?
[07:17] <Farva> On our one server machine, we are running a few different IPs, on one IP, everyone connects just fine (iftop example-http://gyazo.com/2e962762f24c46a4b533a953aed9bc95), on the other, there are a few that are lagging heavily. (same person on the other IP: http://gyazo.com/3837b0e2aec3339ca045078ca9765dd8) How do I trouble shoot this?
[07:18] <somsip> wutang: describe your problem and people will help if they can
[07:18] <sacarlson> Farva: I was still trying to determine the format of what I was looking and and what was even sent
[07:19] <wutang> what it is, whenever i try to install ubuntu studio, i get the error of no controller found
[07:19] <Farva> its a gaming server
[07:19] <wutang> i think i may have found the remedy https://www.archlinux.org/news/linux-313-warning-ps2-keyboard-support-is-now-modular/ but i dont know how to apply it
[07:20] <sacarlson> wutang: you don't have a usb keyboard then?
[07:20] <wutang> no i have a usb keyboard plugged in, but its not recognizing it
[07:21] <wutang> should i attempt a different keyboard, like a wired one then?
[07:21] <sacarlson> wutang: oh yes I mean a wired usb keyboard standard
[07:21] <wutang> no standard keyboard, just usb. give me one second then
[07:22] <logos_> hello can you help me?
[07:22] <Puneet> Hi
[07:22] <vastkahuna> Can somebody tell me how to disable a non responsive ppa?
[07:23] <Puneet> I am facing some issuws with my Ubuntu Kylin 14.04
[07:23] <wutang> wait, why did i unplug my wireless keyboard usb dongle when it works for arrows and enter lol. but it just isnt getting recognized? but yeah ill still attempt other keyboard
[07:23] <sacarlson> vastkahuna: non responsive I take it the server is down.  you could wait or remove it from your repo list
[07:24] <logos_> i want to kill gvfsd-http and unity-scope but when i kill this programs, they restart automatically
[07:24] <Puneet> I recently bought new HP laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 OS
[07:24] <Puneet> Then I upgraded it to 14.04 Kylin and post upgradation its reporting certain problems like touchpad is not working at all.
[07:25] <Puneet> Can someone suggest me the solution?
[07:25] <wutang> tried other keyboard, same results
[07:25] <logos_> is possible kill and force for don't restarted this programs?
[07:26] <vastkahuna> I'm new to ubuntu, don't know many commands yet, how do I find a broken package and repair it?
[07:28] <adac> There seem to be issues with my lenovo T410 and ubuntu 14:04 LTS. The mouspad isn't working correctly (no scrolling) and also the dimming does seem to have problems
[07:28] <adac> any ideas what migh tbe wrong?
[07:29] <knightfelt> vastkahuna: What exactly is the problem?
[07:29] <sacarlson> vastkahuna: it might help if you paistbin the output from apt-get install  youpackage ;   so we might have a clue what's missing
[07:32] <sacarlson> Puneet: plugin a supported usb mouse might be a quick solution. if it was supported in the past maybe move back a version in the kernel
[07:33] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/SCbr3iw4
[07:34] <sacarlson> vastkahuna: ha ha wow you were suposed to replace the youpackage  with " your package name"
[07:34] <sacarlson> vastkahuna: the package you are having the problem with
[07:35] <sacarlson> vastkahuna: as you failed to even provide us with that information
[07:35] <vastkahuna> As in ubuntu version?
[07:37] <sacarlson> vastkahuna: you know those things we see in synaptic the names of applications.... that name
[07:38] <vastkahuna> I don't know , I'm new to this
[07:40] <sacarlson> vastkahuna: if your so new why would you be playing with ppa??
[07:41] <mozzarella> guys
[07:42] <vastkahuna> My issue is my sound doesn' work when I play cd and ubuntu won't update, someone told me it may have to do with ppa
[07:43] <Ben64> vastkahuna: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:44] <wutang> http://s21.postimg.org/qnrahddd2/IMAG0278_BURST003.jpg what is causing this?
[07:44] <Daal123> Hello, I am having trouble while installing ubuntu server 12.04.3, because when I install it, it installs/displays that 12.04.5 is installed. And I need .3. Any clue?
[07:44] <wutang> originally, i had the no controller found, deleted quiet. now this appeared
[07:45] <Ben64> Daal123: why do you think you need 12.04.3
[07:45] <Daal123> Ben64, I have a very old game server that only supports that version. :/
[07:45] <Ben64> well it will work on 12.04.5 too
[07:46] <Ben64> the only difference between those two versions are bugs that got fixed and things like that
[07:46] <Daal123> Actually, I though so. But when I run the server installler, it says "Are you stupid? This requires 12.04.03."
[07:46] <Daal123> I know, but the installer is not that nice.
[07:46] <Ben64> then trick it
[07:46] <Daal123> How?
[07:46] <Ben64> i don't know, i didn't make that game
[07:46] <wutang> btw, with the error i get. it then freezes afterwards
[07:47] <Daal123> lol. Me neither. But is there anyway I can install 03?
[07:47] <Ben64> short answer, no
[07:47] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/GZLhvMjb
[07:47] <[Lotus]Compu> how do i set the default irc client in ubuntu?
[07:47] <Daal123> Nooooooooooooooo. Im dead.
[07:47] <Daal123> .Could you write a long answer. :D
[07:48] <Ben64> then trick it, it doesn't sound very awesome in the first place if it can't tell that 12.04.5 is the same thing
[07:48] <Ben64> long answer, noooo
[07:48] <wutang> out of curiosity, what game is it?
[07:48] <knightfelt> Daal123: What game server is that?
[07:48] <Daal123> Perfect World
[07:49] <Daal123> But, when I install it on a virtual machine, it actually installs 12.04.3. But when I install it on my pc, it installs 12.04.5. HOW?
[07:49] <Ben64> looks like that needs wine to work
[07:49] <wutang> never heard of, isnt that old either
[07:49] <sacarlson> wutang: I don't see any errors in your pic
[07:49] <Daal123> Altso, the installer installs everything I need to run it, but it requires the ubuntu ver. to be 12.04.3
[07:50] <wutang> then how come it stops the install and nothing is able to process following that?
[07:50] <Ben64> Daal123: its a windows program, use wine
[07:50] <wutang> i just get that when i happen to remove the quiet. otherwise it is a mere no controller found error
[07:50] <sacarlson> wutang: each boot it stops at this same point?
[07:50] <wutang> that is correct
[07:51] <Daal123> Ben64, the installer is ./install-pw. When I run it, it says "Please use 12.04.3"
[07:51] <sacarlson> wutang: can you boot in rescue mode (or other name I forget) from grub
[07:51] <Ben64> Daal123: sounds like a trap, considering that it is a windows program and can't be run in linux like that
[07:52] <wutang> im not seeing rescue mode as an option
[07:52] <Daal123> The installer is linux program.
[07:52] <Ben64> right, but i'm not seeing that anywhere, probably does bad stuff
[07:53] <Daal123> Ben, please help me.
[07:53] <Ben64> use wine
[07:53] <vastkahuna> So what do you think?
[07:53] <Daal123> ok. But, is there anyway I can install 12.04.3? Cause that is what I really, really, really need.
[07:54] <Ben64> Daal123: NO!
[07:54] <Ben64> Daal123: and you do not want to be running that installer, you probably get your system compromised
[07:55] <Daal123> Ben64: YES! I have used it before, like for 1 year ago. :'(
[07:55] <Puneet> sacarlson, I have not tried USB mouse on 12.04 but PS/2 touchpad was working on 12.04
[07:55] <Ben64> Daal123: doesn't mean you didn't get your system compromised a year ago
[07:55] <Puneet> Can I downgrade 14.04 to 12.04?
[07:55] <Ben64> Daal123: it is a WINDOWS program. why would there be a LINUX installer for a WINDOWS program? makes no sense!
[07:55] <Daal123> Ben64, it didnt. I ran the server for a long time. :(
[07:55] <somsip> Puneet: no - reinstall
[07:56] <somsip> Ben64: *some* programs do ugly things like that. Teamviewer is one I'm aware of
[07:56] <Daal123> Because, the server runs on linux!
[07:56] <[Lotus]Compu> Ben64: they did it with teamviewer >.>
[07:56] <Puneet> and wifi is always an issue as it keep on disconnecting on 12.04 thats why I upgarded to 14.04 but found lot more problems
[07:56] <wutang> blah, im going to go ahead and attempt another os real fast
[07:56] <somsip> Puneet: same answer applies
[07:56] <Ben64> Daal123: not seeing any link to anything like that anywhere, so i think you've got something bad
[07:56] <Daal123> Ben64, anyway, have to go. Thanks for trying to help. Have a nice daY!
[07:57] <Puneet> which one is the most stable version of Ubuntu with good wifi connection support as 12.04 was having issue of wifi disconnection
[07:57] <Ben64> 14.04 probably has better wireless drivers than 12.04
[07:57] <somsip> Puneet: question is too general to reply. No definition of 'good wifi connection support'
[07:58] <Puneet> Ben64 I upgraded to 14.04 but my mouse (PS/2) stopped working
[07:58] <wutang> it deeply saddens me that utopic unicorn wont work for me lol, does anyone know of any distros with that nice of a name?
[07:58] <Puneet> so can not proceed further
[07:59] <vastkahuna> Did you look it over yet, what do you think?
[07:59] <Ben64> vastkahuna: looks like you need to ppa-purge
[08:00] <Ben64> !ppa-purge | vastkahuna
[08:00] <damidam> Hey, my upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 is stuck on the ttf-mscorefonts-installer - I cant press ok or do anything
[08:01] <Puneet> can someone suggest solution to fix "touchpad stopped working" issue on 14.04 post upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04
[08:02] <sacarlson> damidam: I'm not sure I guess you will just have to <ctl>C out and fix it later
[08:02] <damidam> sacarlson it seems like i should hit ok here but I can't - Am i doing something wrong ?
[08:03] <somsip> damidam: if you manage to abort the upgrade, it can be possible to fix it later using apt-get install -f on affected packages. But you're on thin ice. There is no easy solution, that said
[08:03] <sacarlson> damidam: remind me to never update just install a fresh copy in a small spare partition that you save for that purpose
[08:03] <damidam> well that is quite terrible
[08:04] <somsip> damidam: stalls on upgrades can be painful. It's just how it is :-/
[08:04] <damidam> i've been thinking about installing windows 8 for about a month now
[08:04] <damidam> had so many issues with all kinds of stuff
[08:04] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/H2yy2pVv
[08:04] <sacarlson> damidam: and that's another reason to keep that spare partiton, to add new OS systems
[08:05] <Trieste> Hi, how would I transfer an ubuntu .iso to a USB drive with dd?
[08:05] <Puneet> can someone suggest solution to fix "touchpad stopped working" issue on 14.04 post upgrade from Ubuntu
[08:05] <Puneet> can someone suggest solution to fix "touchpad stopped working" issue on 14.04 post upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04
[08:05] <damidam> So i just ctrl-c now? :'(
[08:06] <Svetlana> you might want to mention your hardware about the touchpad
[08:06] <sacarlson> damidam: you could do it tomaro.  but it's like the dentist I have to do it sometime
[08:07] <gr33n7007h> Trieste, dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=512k
[08:07] <damidam> sacarlson: doesnt work... any other ideas ?
[08:07] <somsip> damidam: CTRL C and do-dist-upgrade again and see how it fares
[08:07] <damidam> somsip its not closing sadly
[08:07] <Puneet> actually gpointing-device-settings package is getting crashed
[08:07] <sacarlson> damidam: <CTL>z
[08:08] <somsip> sacarlson: how will backgrounding the process help?
[08:08] <damidam> so i do a reset?
[08:08] <sacarlson> somsip: backgrounding?  hows that
[08:08] <damidam> I'm scared that everything is broken after this
[08:09] <damidam> I need my stuff :'(
[08:09] <somsip> sacarlson: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/135077/ctrl-c-vs-ctrl-z-with-foreground-job (returns control to the shell but does not actually kill the job'
[08:09] <linocisco> hi all, canon LBP 3050 installation according to guide line not ok in ubuntu 14.04
[08:09] <somsip> damidam: you have little choice but to kill the process doing the upgrade. Did you use terminal or GUI?
[08:09] <sacarlson> somsip: well give you back control at this point he has none
[08:09] <damidam> wooow
[08:10] <damidam> i mashed the keyboard
[08:10] <damidam> and it continued upgrading
[08:10] <somsip> damidam: ah - the old 'mash the keyboard' trick. Good one...
[08:10] <damidam> maybe it didnt recognize the return button
[08:10] <damidam> and i had to hit "o" for ok
[08:10] <damidam> or something
[08:10] <damidam> wow
[08:11] <damidam> gonna take a shower
[08:11] <damidam> thanks guys
[08:11] <linocisco> I tried accordiing to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters%2FCanonPrinters%2FLBP3010
[08:11] <linocisco> but printer is NOT detected
[08:18] <Jakob1997> Anyone online who has experience with ubuntu and wifi
[08:18] <Jakob1997> ?
[08:18] <__Cancel__> whom can I ask about RedNoteBook?
[08:18] <somsip> __Cancel__: what is it?
[08:19] <sacarlson> anyone play with docker?  if so is there a small size example to experiment with? I was considering giveing it a trial run.
[08:19] <__Cancel__> when will password protection be added?
[08:19] <quincy> Hello
[08:20] <somsip> !info rednotebook
[08:20] <quincy> Does anyone know if jailkit is rehosted somewhere else ? http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/jailkit-2.17.tar.gz is currently down
[08:20] <somsip> sacarlson: follow any beginners guide. Initial steps are simple and easy. But OT here
[08:21] <Morpheusxnl> anyone get experience with duck launcher
[08:21] <somsip> __Cancel__: probably best approaching the developers
[08:22] <sacarlson> somsip: the one that looked might be simple looked to require downloading a 500meg file.  as I don't know how to determine the size I was just wondering if there was a known smaller like 20meg trail
[08:22] <somsip> sacarlson: yes. there is a hello world example. Again, OT here so no more replies from me on this
[08:23] <__Cancel__> somsip, how to locate them? there is no one in  #rednotebook.
[08:23] <sacarlson> quincy: it just so happen docker is much like jailkit
[08:23] <thomasd> hello. I have a random question. Is it possible to make holding down both mouse buttons behave like a middle mouse click?
[08:24] <somsip> __Cancel__: there is a sourceforge page. Try that
[08:25] <quincy> sacarlson T
[08:25] <quincy> Thanks but I need that specific version for a piece of software
[08:25] <quincy> I already found a software archive at : http://fossies.org/linux/privat/jailkit-2.17.tar.gz/
[08:25] <quincy> Thanks :)
[08:29] <sacarlson> thomasd: that might be possible maybe in keyboard maping as I would think you can detect when both mouse botton are down.  I don't know exacly how to do it
[08:33] <sacarlson> somsip so how do you exit from man ls ;  if <ctl>z is the wrong method to use to get control back?  Am I putting man in the background with <ctl>z ?
[08:34] <sacarlson> somsip: your right I can bring it back with fg
[08:36] <Trieste> gr33n7007h: thanks
[08:36] <geirha> sacarlson: q  to quit from the default pager
[08:46] <Apachez> whats the current status of mounting ssd with discard flag to handle trim? some claim its not recommended, the recommended method is instead to cron fstrim - is this still a valid claim?
[08:48] <sacarlson> geirha: ya I noted that later and here all this time I've used <CTL>z to exit it leaving it in the background forever
[08:48] <Farva> On our one server machine, we are running a few different IPs, on one IP, everyone connects just fine (iftop example-http://gyazo.com/2e962762f24c46a4b533a953aed9bc95), on the other, there are a few that are lagging heavily. (same person on the other IP: http://gyazo.com/3837b0e2aec3339ca045078ca9765dd8) How do I trouble shoot this?
[08:49] <sagar__> Seveas done !!
[08:50] <sacarlson> Farva: I was wondering maybe you could try netcat from a to b then netcat from b to a one each to see what the difference in speed is. as I don't know what flow you are now using to test it with
[08:50] <sagar__> thanks everyone for helping me out :)
[08:51] <random1> hi everybody. i disabled "CSM support" in my bios in order to install ubuntu in UEFI mode, but since then i can't boot or even access the bios anymore. does anyone have an idea about how to fix it ?
[08:51] <Farva> sacarlson:  can you give me an example of what 'a to b' is?
[08:51] <sacarlson> Farva: man nc
[08:53] <ObrienDave> *face palm*
[08:53] <Farva> I do not understand what you mean by 'a to b' so the man command is not making it clear =[
[08:53] <sacarlson> Farva:  computer A   to computer B
[08:54] <sacarlson> Farva: setup nc to recieve on A  and nc to send on B  and measure with iftop of wireshark
[08:54]  * ObrienDave puckers lips, stifling a hearty laugh
[08:55] <Farva> this is where I get to show my ignorance of linux, I have no idea where to start with that...
[08:55] <Farva> what is a wireshark? and how do I do the setup?
[08:55] <Farva> the man command is not clear to me at all
[08:55] <sacarlson> Farva: well it could be partly my ignorance not knowing your problem
[08:55] <wutang> k, finally dl'd a different os. now im experiencing this: conflicting fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver
[08:56] <Farva> I just need to understand why everyone has such bad connection to this IP and we are find on the other
[08:56] <Farva> it is the same server machine
[08:56] <geirha> Farva: First thing I'd check is to make sure there's no other devices with the same IP anywhere in the network
[08:56] <Farva> there are no other devices
[08:56] <geirha> To machines with the same IP gives weird behavior
[08:56] <geirha> *two
[08:56] <Farva> I set up each process on its own IP and we only have 3 running
[08:57] <sacarlson> Farva: I'm not sure what bad really is maybe dns lookup is slow or downloading a video file is slow , page update slow or ???
[08:57] <Farva> and the IPs are dedicated to my range
[08:57] <geirha> I'm not saying it's the case, I'm just mentioning it because I've hit that a couple of times before when two machines accidentally got the same IP
[08:58] <Farva> it is a gaming server, so players are experiencing game lag, skipping, mobs lagging etc
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Farva, game boxes get heavy use.  check ISP for throttling?
[08:58] <Farva> how can I check that cfhowlett ?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Farva, contact your ISP provider?
[08:59] <Farva> we run on 1 Gb ports from a data center
[08:59] <sacarlson> Farva: ok game server I would think is very low bandwidth unless there maybe 1000's of players
[08:59] <Farva> thats the thing
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Farva, 1gb ports?  Ignore me ...
[08:59] <Farva> we are fine on the other IP where there is a game process
[09:00] <wutang> does anyone know anything about, conflicting fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, doesn't it depend on bandwidth?  thinking a high resolution game like counterstrike could easily run up into heavy multimedia throughput ...
[09:01] <Farva> cfhowlett: I am not trying to ignore you, I thought I understood what you meant and would it not seem odd that with 1Gb ports that we would be experiencing clogged bandwidth when only 2 players are on that specific server
[09:01] <Farva> and the other server is fine, its all on the same server machine
[09:01] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: I think on games like these they just monitor user positions like x,y,z and pointing angles.  not graphics
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Farva, no I was suggesting you DO ignore me!  given what sacarlson suggested, my guess would e wrong
[09:02] <Farva> and I seem to be connecting fine to it, it is just everyone else that is experiencing issues
[09:02] <Farva> cfhowlett:  oooh lol xD
[09:02] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, hmm.  been awhile since I went online ... and I'm guessing from China where squirrels move faster than your local ISP ...
[09:04] <wutang> conflicting fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver, anyone? I'm on my third os attempt now lol
[09:04] <wutang> it all began with steam os, now im on a stabler version of ubuntu studio
[09:05] <cfhowlett> wutang, "stabler" = ubuntustudio 14.04.1 ... right?
[09:05] <wutang> that is correct, i was attempting 14.10 before
[09:06] <cfhowlett> wutang, nice.  LTS only = far fewer tears ...
[09:06] <wutang> any ideas on why its causing the boot to hangup
[09:08] <cfhowlett> wutang, system specifications?
[09:08] <sacarlson> Farva: also try recording trafic on both with wireshark and compare.  but I'm not so sure your problem is in network.  maybe processes running on they server that need to be monitored as how buzy it is
[09:09] <Farva> sacarlson:  how do I do that? And our network is very calm right now, 4 players between the 2 servers and only 3 on teamspeak. Peak hours are over and we didn't experience this earlier today
[09:09] <wutang> AMD A8-5557M 2.1GHz (Turbo up to 3.1GHz), AMD RADEON R9 M275X 2GB, 500GB 5400RPM 2.5" Hard Drive, 8GB DDR3-1600 SO-DIMM
[09:10] <sacarlson> Farva: wireshark is a gui aplication not difficult to us  to install apt-get install wireshark
[09:10] <Farva> sacarlson: here is my entire iftop: http://gyazo.com/3408d578bf6f7a66017ae05a23b887c2
[09:12] <random1> anyone ?
[09:13] <sacarlson> Farva: ya that's just showing rates from each ip and I don't see any problem there.  with wireshark you record all packet activity and you can setup filters to look at any part to isolate any type of problem
[09:13] <Farva> can you lead me through this, everything I know about linux is ask some one else what to do or I will break it lol
[09:13] <sacarlson> Farva: but you would only want to run it at the time you think your having a problem as it would take too much resource to capture any large period of time
[09:14] <cfhowlett> Farva, might also ask #ubuntu-server
[09:14] <Farva> ohh, didn't know that was a thing!
[09:16] <wutang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/169912/fb-conflicting-fb-hw-usage-inteldrmfb-vs-efi-vga-removing-generic-driver attempting this solution
[09:16] <brad__> hi all
[09:17] <wutang> i looked for the line of gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode it wasnt there
[09:17] <wutang> then i tried adding it as later mentioned, still no luck
[09:18] <sacarlson> Farva: I have a very small window as to what your problem might be with a wide view of many posibilty.  but also monitor process on the server with something like top to see if your system is running out of some resource
[09:19] <Farva> sacarlson: so about running wire shark, I have literally no idea what to do behind the console, can you point me at a tutorial or throw me the commands to watch the network?
[09:19] <Farva> and I am always watching htop, we are at a cool 10% usage on everything
[09:20] <sacarlson> Farva: try top first if that looks ok with less than 50% cpu usage and less than 50% mem usage at peak then we can look back at network
[09:20] <sacarlson> Farva: you say you have 1gb and at this time only using 100kb
[09:20] <Farva> thats what I thought I saw
[09:24] <Farva> sacarlson: I just put a ticket in with the data center, they are very good about responding. I should know in the next few minutes if it is on their end
[09:25] <sacarlson> Farva: is it something like amazon rented virtual system?
[09:25] <Farva> oh gawd no lol
[09:25] <sacarlson> Farva: so you have the physical box?
[09:25] <Farva> its a proffesionally managed data center and it is a dedicated server machine
[09:26] <Farva> we rent the box yes
[09:26] <sacarlson> Farva: they may already have records of system load that you can look at
[09:26] <sacarlson> Farva: they should also provide you with the load specs
[09:27] <wutang> getting progress on my own..... so i added nomodeset it then proceeds to load the installer. but after about fifteen seconds of it displaying it freezes...
[09:27] <leoz> 有没有人在？
[09:28] <ObrienDave> !cn | leoz
[09:28] <cfhowlett> !cn | leoz
[09:28] <ObrienDave> !jp | leoz
[09:28] <leoz> 什么意思阿
[09:28] <leoz> 第一次用这个系统
[09:28] <leoz> 不会
[09:28] <Farva> sacarlson: yes, they are working with me now already =]
[09:29] <Farva> I always try and figure it out best I can before I put in a ticket xD
[09:29] <ultrixx> leoz: rzlbrks hahahaha
[09:29] <sacarlson> Farva: cool thing with like amazon you can change the spec in real time as it's a virtual spec and only pay for it when you need it
[09:29] <leoz> only seeping English?
[09:29] <Farva> sacarlson: he had me run ethtool eth0 and this is what I got: http://gyazo.com/451b639a870477eb97d885e7a940a1ca
[09:30] <random1> yes leoz
[09:30] <cfhowlett> leoz, english only
[09:30] <Farva> It does not recognize the device?
[09:30] <Farva> wtf
[09:30] <wutang> looking very closely..... i think its installing..... but you can hardly see the circle move and it was going full swing before
[09:30] <leoz> ....
[09:31] <Tm_T> leoz: yes only english in here
[09:31] <sacarlson> Farva: I guess you might look at ifconfig to see what devices are available
[09:31] <White_Cat> hello
[09:31] <leoz> e
[09:31] <leoz> hello
[09:31] <Krayg> Greetings
[09:31] <White_Cat> I am trying to figure out how to access the home folder of a newly created account on ubuntu server
[09:31] <White_Cat> it seemingly does nothing
[09:32] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, log in as that user
[09:33] <wutang> why is there no true definitive installer indication for ubuntu studio.....? how long should or could this take
[09:33] <brent> is it possible to make a program always run so that if it was stopped or closed it could restart? i really x11vnc server to be operating and from time to time when i log out i cant reconnect back
[09:33] <leoz> God save me . it's so hard for me to say English
[09:33] <cfhowlett> wutang, fresh ubuntu studio install?  depending on ram - 20 - 30 minutes without simultaneous updates.
[09:33] <Svetlana> Hi leoz
[09:33] <White_Cat> cfhowlett thats the problem
[09:34] <White_Cat> I cannot navigate to it as the logged in user
[09:34] <leoz> hi
[09:34] <cfhowlett> leoz, so use the channel for your first language
[09:34] <Svetlana> leoz Where are you from?
[09:34] <leoz> china
[09:34] <wutang> ill wait i guess, but i dislike the zero status indication of install progress lol
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !kylin | leoz,
[09:34] <Svetlana> leoz: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw
[09:35] <cfhowlett> wutang, don't update during install.
[09:35] <Svetlana> leoz: >>> #ubuntu-cn <<< click here
[09:35] <leoz> ok ok
[09:35] <Svetlana> leoz: >>> #ubuntu-tw <<< click here
[09:35] <Svetlana> :-)
[09:35] <White_Cat> when I cd /home or cd /home/mydir it returns to the $ prompt
[09:35]  * White_Cat violently clicks on "click here" text
[09:36] <Farva> sacarlson: http://gyazo.com/670e7f2ff01226ffee584cdcedd4781a
[09:36] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, command: pwd               will tell you your current location
[09:36] <White_Cat> eh?
[09:36] <White_Cat> I was in the home directory all along?
[09:37] <White_Cat> okay, second question
[09:37] <White_Cat> how can I add a user under the sudo group?
[09:37] <White_Cat> I dont want to mess something
[09:37] <sacarlson> Farva: try  p4p1
[09:38] <sacarlson> Farva: I don't know how you have your apps maped and to what port or.....
[09:38] <Mathisen> White_Cat sudo adduser <username> sudo
[09:39] <Farva> well, I let the system determine the processors and cores, and I just set the ports to 25565 for the .3 and .4 IPs
[09:39] <Farva> sacarlson:  what was the command for p4p1 you wanted me to run?
[09:39] <Farva> (total linux newb)
[09:40] <sacarlson> Farva: ethtool p4p1  it's what they told you to run
[09:40] <Farva> oh ic
[09:41] <Farva> http://gyazo.com/536c6b801f9ad053b146bd7df4f0b253
[09:42] <sacarlson> Farva: well that looks better.  I don't have ethtool installed so I don't know what it does
[09:45] <kqr> hey guys! I have a pretty old 12.04 installation that's been sitting for a while. is there any reason to believe running an apt-get upgrade now will cause trouble?
[09:45] <adac> With the Noveau driver my notebook hangs up after some time... I have  a thinkpad T410. Any ideas? I hve alos probalms with the mouspad that does not allow scrolling anymore. i'm on 14.04
[09:46] <cfhowlett> kqr, first set your system for LTS only.  after that, it'll go to 14.04
[09:47] <kqr> cfhowlett, i'm not interested in doing a dist-upgrade
[09:47] <kqr> cfhowlett, I just want the security updates for 12.04
[09:48] <kqr> cfhowlett, (but that was a good thing of you to mention anyway, because I want to upgrade to 14.04 on another computer :) )
[09:48] <cfhowlett> kqr, dist-upgrade will update your *current* installation to 12.04.5
[09:48] <dnano91> hi, i was just trying to install kubuntu via usb (dd to get iso to usb) but when i boot, at one point i get a console screen and no gui (downloaded 14.10 plasma5)
[09:48] <cfhowlett> kqr, do release-upgrade will bring you from 12.04 >>> 14.04
[09:48] <kqr> cfhowlett, hm, i'm not sure I follow. but all I'm interested in is upgrading the suggested packages (around 100 or so of them)
[09:48] <kqr> ah i see
[09:49] <kqr> either way, that's not what I want to do in this particular case
[09:50] <kqr> ah it appears as though dist-upgrade is actually safer than upgrade
[09:50] <kqr> I wasn't aware
[09:50] <cfhowlett> kqr, err other way ...
[09:51] <cfhowlett> kqr, dist-upgrade will update ALL packages to latest available and in the repos.  upgrade will not but will grab the security updates.
[09:51] <kqr> aha
[09:52] <kqr> an answer on askubuntu.com said "you probably want dist-upgrade to ensure dependencies are resolved"
[09:52] <kqr> cfhowlett, but I take it that means upgrade is usually safe?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> kqr, "usually"   :)
[09:52] <kqr> haha
[09:52] <zhsj> hi, my laptop can't wake up after i suspend it. is there any way to find out the reasons?
[09:52] <kqr> reassuring
[09:54] <zhsj> this situation happens after i upgrade to 14.10
[09:54] <sacarlson> zhsj: I started some research on that and found it is sometimes releated to the sr_mod that can be tested by removel of your dvd drive
[09:55] <zhsj> i thinks there may be some logs which can tells the failure reasons , but i can't find out.
[09:56] <sacarlson> zhsj: the logs might show some time outs with ataX that may be your dvd or cd drive
[09:58] <sacarlson> zhsj: the sr_mod is now built into the kernel so can't be modprobe -r ; to fix it.  if we find more cases we will compile a custom kernel to verify a fix in software
[09:59] <zhsj> sacarlson, built into kernel? .. that's why, just now i `lsmod` there's no output
[10:00] <sacarlson> zhsj: yes sr_mod is compiled into the kernel is no longer a module sr_mod.ko
[10:00] <sacarlson> zhsj: you can physicaly remove your dvd and see if the problem goes away.  if not then it's a different problem
[10:01] <zhsj> sacarlson, ok...i will try later
[10:08] <jane_> hi
[10:09] <jane_> I need help with a thing
[10:12] <random1> ask your question jane_
[10:14] <jane_> trying to figure out how should I ask
[10:14] <random1> tell us what is your problem
[10:16] <White_Cat> Is there an easy(er) way to move a specific directory with its contents and subdirs from one location to another
[10:17] <White_Cat> I want to move contents of /home/user1/dir1 to /home/user2
[10:18] <phix> White_Cat: sudo mv /home/user1/dir1 /home/user2/
[10:20] <White_Cat> will it recursively move everything in it too?
[10:21] <random1> yes White_Cat
[10:21] <phix> White_Cat: Depending on the file system, It simply changes the pointer of the parent directory to the new location
[10:21] <phix> which has the same effect :)
[10:21] <random1> for instance cp needs a -r option to do it recursively, but mv doesn't
[10:22] <phix> random1: correct, cp and mv do different things
[10:22] <random1> yep
[10:22] <White_Cat> one coppies other moves
[10:22] <random1> c(o)p(y) and mo)v(e)
[10:22] <phix> random1: cp makes a copy, mv just changes file system pointers
[10:22] <random1> i know :)
[10:22] <White_Cat> rm removes those
[10:22] <random1> that's it
[10:22] <White_Cat> there is also an rmdir
[10:23] <phix> rm calls unlink(); :)
[10:23] <White_Cat> sudo mv /home/odoo/odoo /home/odoo/ would this have the desired effect?
[10:23] <White_Cat> of reducing the second directory?
[10:24] <geirha> White_Cat: nope
[10:24] <phix> White_Cat: That wouldn't do anything
[10:24] <White_Cat> sudo mv /home/odoo/odoo /home/ ?
[10:24] <phix> White_Cat: that will fail as odoo exists
[10:24] <phix> White_Cat: as I said, all mv does it changes filesystem pointers
[10:25] <White_Cat> so how can I move the contents of odoo directory to one directory lower?
[10:25] <wutang> how much slower or faster are installs dvd vs usb?
[10:25] <phix> White_Cat: unless it is on a filesystem that doesn't support that and then it falls back to a recursive copy then a recursive delete
[10:25] <White_Cat> as in /home/odoo/odoo -> /home/odoo
[10:25] <geirha> sudo mv /home/odoo /home/odoo.old && sudo mv /home/odoo.old/odoo /home
[10:25] <phix> White_Cat: yeah you need to rename it first :)
[10:26] <Mathisen> wutang usb is in most cases faster usb2 is a little faster and if you have usb3 that is the best option for fast installs
[10:27] <Illegalviking> any recommendations on a multi threaded downloader for ubuntu?
[10:28] <Mathisen> Illegalviking Aria2
[10:28] <wutang> my install is currently at like 40 mins, fresh install ubuntu studio. had issues beforehand, now installing. but the install wheel is churning slow, very slow
[10:28] <Illegalviking> thanks Mathisen
[10:29] <White_Cat> it is unable to delete odoo.old because it is not empty?
[10:29] <White_Cat> how can I see whats in it?
[10:31] <geirha> ApplesInArrays: Fix your connection
[10:31] <geirha> White_Cat: ls -l /home/odoo.old/
[10:31] <geirha> White_Cat: err, sorry, meant to include -a
[10:32] <noark> ping
[10:32] <phix> White_Cat: If you would like to learn more I recommend you install the coreutils source and look at the source code for cp and mv
[10:32] <phix> noark: pong
[10:32] <noark> oh yeah
[10:32] <phix> White_Cat: cd /tmp && sudo apt-get source coreutils
[10:34] <geirha> no, don't run apt-get source with sudo
[10:35] <Abhijit> hi. where is openjdk java controll file located in ubuntu 14.04?
[10:35] <noark> usr/local
[10:35] <noark> maybe
[10:36] <geirha> Any OPs in here? ApplesInArrays is joining and quiting every minute. fix_your_connection ban is in order
[10:36] <geirha> Abhijit: java control file?
[10:37] <linxlad> Yo :)
[10:37] <phix> geirha: doesn't matter
[10:38] <phix> White_Cat: but yes geirha is right, you dont need to run apt-get source with sudo, just a force of habbit for me to use sudo with apt-get
[10:38] <Goldwing> Q
[10:39] <Goldwing> Q: i have a SIP phone, but i can't remember what vlan it is on, i do see the IP in the display. Is there a way to scan all vlans for a specific IP?
[10:40] <phix> Goldwing: you should be able to traffic sniff that
[10:41] <phix> just look for vlan traffic and see what id it is in
[10:41] <Goldwing> phix : ethereal?
[10:41] <phix> Goldwing: I recommend Wireshark
[10:41] <Goldwing> okj
[10:41] <Goldwing> ok
[10:41] <phix> but yes ethereal should be able to do it too
[10:42] <phix> Goldwing: this is assuming your switch and network card support VLAN tags
[10:42] <White_Cat> when I press up down arrows etc, through putty ssh it creates weird symbols
[10:42] <White_Cat> rather than the intended funciton
[10:42] <White_Cat> why could this be?
[10:42] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/163802/backspace-tab-del-and-arrow-keys-not-working-in-terminal-using-ssh
[10:42] <White_Cat> I dont think it is the same issue
[10:42] <phix> White_Cat: is anapplication running in the foreground?
[10:43] <phix> White_Cat: what terminal are you using?
[10:43] <White_Cat> putty ssh
[10:43] <phix> White_Cat: no, what terminal emulation are you using
[10:43] <phix> xterm, linux, vt100?
[10:43] <phix> something else?
[10:43] <White_Cat> I am unsure how to answer that, I do not know
[10:43] <phix> what shell are ytou using?  bash?
[10:43] <phix> White_Cat: have a look in your putty settings
[10:44] <phix> click the putty icon in the top left corner of your screen and click settings
[10:44] <phix> then expand ssh and terminal and see what it says
[10:45] <lukevinc> Hello, My gzip is not descompressing my .zip file, i tried to reinstall the libs zip and unzip, i don't know what I can do, can someone help me?
[10:45] <White_Cat> connection->ssh-> ?
[10:46] <phix> lukevinc: gzip and .zip are two different formats
[10:46] <phix> White_Cat: sure
[10:47] <phix> take a look in there
[10:47] <phix> lukevinc: unzip filename.zip should work if it is a zip
[10:47] <lukevinc> phix: gzip i mean the program which does the compression/descompression in Ubuntu, i don't know the name exactly, I know it's from GNOME.
[10:47] <phix> lukevinc: type in file filename.zip to see what the actual format is
[10:47] <carpediembaby> hello. i wanted to ask if it is safe/useful to use something like this: sudo sync && sudo echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches to clean up cache?
[10:48] <geirha> White_Cat: My guess would be that your .profile or .bashrc file changes the TERM environment variable
[10:48] <phix> lukevinc: gzip is a command like application that has nothing to do with gnome
[10:48] <phix> lukevinc: do you mean fileroller?
[10:48] <lukevinc> phix: i guess so.
[10:48] <phix> lukevinc: Are you looking for a GUI app or a command line app or any app that decompresses a zip file?
[10:49] <lukevinc> phix: exactly.
[10:49] <phix> lukevinc: I asked 3 questions there
[10:49] <Mathisen> White_Cat i had that problem with putty when you start it go to Windows - translation and change it to UTF8
[10:49] <brokenlaptopscre> hey, i got a broken  laptop screen. i tried to connect an external one for the installation process (lubuntu alternate 14.04.1) but it doesn't show the picture. even disconnecting the screen did not work. any suggestions? it's a compaq 6720s i'm having trouble with
[10:49] <lukevinc> phix: my GUI descompressor doesn't recognize .zip files. i don't know  why.
[10:49] <phix> lukevinc: well, three choices, which one were you saying exactly to?
[10:50] <brokenlaptopscre> it's probably not picture but output ;)
[10:50] <carpediembaby> I recently ran into a problem. I was running some Java code and i got an exception that there is not enough memory available. I have 16G or ram but the system monitor showed only 30% under use. But in the multiload indicator, i saw that the most of the memory is marked as 'cached'.
[10:50] <phix> lukevinc: ok, and what is your GUI decompressors name?
[10:50] <phix> lukevinc: the default one in ubuntu?  or have you installed something else?
[10:50] <lukevinc> phix: Archive Manager.
[10:50] <phix> file roller hey
[10:51] <lukevinc> phix: it's the same?
[10:52] <phix> lukevinc: this is from apt-cache show file-roller -->
[10:52] <phix> "File-roller doesn't perform archive operations by itself, but relies on standard tools for this."
[10:52] <phix> Suggests: arj, binutils, cpio, lha, lzip, lzma, lzop, ncompress, rpm2cpio, rzip, sharutils, unace, unalz, unrar | p7zip-rar, unzip, xz-utils, zip, zoo
[10:53] <phix> lukevinc: so if you install zip and unzip (sudo apt-get install zip unzip) then it will work with zip files
[10:54] <lukevinc> i tried it, it says "An error occurred while loading the archive.".
[10:54] <phix> lukevinc: if that command fails then you need to add universe and probably multiverse to your apt repo
[10:54] <phix> lukevinc: perhaps the archive is faulty / corrupt
[10:54] <lukevinc> phix:but i did descompress using the terminal, the error is only in file-roller.
[10:55] <phix> lukevinc: and you have installed the suggests for zip and unzip?
[10:55] <lukevinc> phix: yes.
[10:55] <phix> lukevinc: *shrugs* just use the command line then
[10:55] <lukevinc> and file-roller still bugged :(
[10:56] <phix> Personally i don't use file-roller, I use the command line tools
[10:56] <lukevinc> phix: sure, thanks for the help.
[10:56] <phix> any time
[10:57] <chris_99> hey, anyone got any ideas about this
[10:57] <chris_99> sudo service networking restart
[10:57] <chris_99> stop: Job failed while stopping
[10:57] <bobin89> Hi. Any one know a way to boot a live cd to terminal, from the first screen?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> bobin89, use the server .iso for terminal
[11:00] <lukevinc> bobin89: gparted sucks man, i have this problem too.
[11:00] <zhsj> sacarlson, it seems that it is fglrx that cause resume failure. I removed fglrx and suspend/resume works now
[11:01] <zhsj> Is there anybody who has tried install fglrx on 14.10
[11:02] <MasterPiece> zhsj, sudo apt-cache search fglrx
[11:02] <bobin89> cfhowlett: Will try that
[11:03] <arcsky> hello how do i mount usb ?
[11:03] <zhsj> MasterPiece, I just removed fglrx because it causes resume failure after suspend
[11:04] <cfhowlett> arcsky, terminal: lsblk                    will show you all your mount.  one of them is your usb: /dev/something.     mount /dev/something
[11:05] <arcsky> fat32
[11:05] <k1l_> arcsky: is it a desktop?
[11:05] <arcsky> sdb      8:16   1   3.8G  0 disk
[11:05] <arcsky> └─sdb4   8:20   1   3.8G  0 part
[11:05] <arcsky> no server
[11:16] <usbehc> Hello anyone here?
[11:18] <MasterPiece> usbehc, Yes, Just ask your Question and w8 for an answer
[11:20] <ilya_> Hello
[11:20] <skua> privet
[11:23] <usbehc> Can someone tell me why this happens after login? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2h5k2dk&s=8#.VE98pIWd6bg
[11:24] <usbehc> It just appears for 5 seconds or so, screen seems damaged. Can it cause serious problems further?
[11:24] <ncappa> Hello IRC people, I'm experiencing an issue.
[11:25] <Krayg> What is the issue?
[11:26] <ncappa> I just installed 14.04, but I can't seem to boot into it.
[11:26] <ncappa> Not ure hy.
[11:26] <ncappa> *sure why
[11:26] <Krayg> What is error message you are getting?
[11:26] <Krayg> I installed it tonight without issue
[11:27] <evil_dan2wik> what is the name for the mono package?
[11:27] <ncappa> there isn't one, I just boot into windows when I turn the laptop on.
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !info mono
[11:27] <Krayg> Did you install it side by side?
[11:27] <johnflux_> I just upgrade to 14.10  and my vpn no longer works.  Was anything changed with the firewall?
[11:27] <ncappa> Yes I did lol
[11:28] <ncappa> I created a partition in windows then I installed it to that
[11:28] <Krayg> lol ah. Check out your windoze settings boot.ini
[11:28] <Krayg> Oh
[11:28] <cfhowlett> ncappa, wubi.  not supported.  not recommended.  not wise.
[11:28] <Krayg> Agreed
[11:29] <ncappa> So just download wubi and be done with it?
[11:29] <ncappa> and wipe the partition that I just made
[11:29] <cfhowlett> ncappa, you already installed with wubi.   don't do that anymore
[11:29] <ncappa> I've not had any experience with wubi, how exactly does it work?
[11:29] <ncappa> I didn't use wubi I did an install from the live USB
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ncappa, if you installed "inside windows", then yes you did
[11:30] <ncappa> I didn't install inside windows
[11:30] <janslow> ncappa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
 I created a partition in windows then I installed it to that
[11:30] <ncappa> I booted from a live usb I made with unetbootin
[11:30] <ncappa> ok thanks
[11:31] <todaysnoob> hello
[11:31] <ncappa> So I download this wubi thing and it installs the OS from inside windows and does all the partitions and everything too?
[11:31] <todaysnoob> I'm looking to run ubuntu to on an old netbook
[11:32] <cfhowlett> ncappa, wubi is NOT SUPPORTED!  not a good idea, not recommended, not the solution.
[11:32] <todaysnoob> i dont want to tax the hdd so I'm planning to install it on usb and run it from there. is it viable? can it be forced to load and run in the ram?
[11:32] <ncappa> Ok. So how should I be doing it cfhowlett ?
[11:33] <ncappa> I'm on a windows 8 terrible netbookytablet thing
[11:33] <cfhowlett> ncappa, you should NOT be using it - as has been stated repeatedly.
[11:33] <ncappa> which belongs to a kid I tutor maths to.
[11:33] <Svetlana> Someone please pastebin their sources.list on Trusty, I broke something and it refuses to apt-get update
[11:33] <ncappa> ok, so what should I be doing to install ubuntu then? I haven't been using wubi.
[11:33] <cfhowlett> ncappa, first: target device hadware??
[11:34] <todaysnoob> people?
[11:34] <janslow> todaysnoob I have run Ubuntu from a SD card which may be better than a USB drive because you can plug in the SD card and leave it there flush with the case, rather than having a USB drive protruding from the netbook. Just make sure you get a high class SD card (for data transfer speed purposes) and aside from that install Ubuntu as if you were installing to any other disk; just make sure to select the SD card during install!
[11:34] <vitimiti> Svetlana, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Packages_and_Repositories
[11:34] <ncappa> Do you want specs of the device I wnt to install it to?
[11:35] <r> GreyGoose
[11:35] <cfhowlett> ncappa, yep.  paste em up
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !paste  | ncappa
[11:35] <todaysnoob> thank you @janslow
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> todaysnoob: use Lubuntu or Xubuntu to free up more resources for applications
[11:35] <todaysnoob> will the regular read and write cycles be too much for flash storage, thanks parsnip
[11:35] <Guest23974> GreyGoose
[11:36] <todaysnoob> *actionparsnip
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> todaysnoob: it will be fine, you could use an SD card as /var and ~/.cache if you are concerned but you will be ok
[11:36] <janslow> todaysnoob no it should be fine. This is even supported 'officially' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromSD
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> todaysnoob: use TAB to autocomplete names ;)
[11:37] <todaysnoob> and is there a simple way to make it load(at boot) and run from ram? Thanks again ActionParsnip, new to irc. janslow reading the linked page, very helpful thanks
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:38] <janslow> todaysnoob why would you want to run everything from RAM? that would be exhaustive and un-necessary
[11:38] <Krayg> Agreed
[11:38] <kelunik> Morning, if I backup my whole filesystem, format the disk, install Windows 10, copy the files (ubuntu) back to that hdd, run grub-update, will my ubuntu work like before or is there anything I should do in another way?
[11:39] <todaysnoob> janslow: I figured load times maybe faster that way for apps
[11:39] <Krayg> SD is fast anyway
[11:39] <cfhowlett> kelunik, windows ... 10?
[11:39] <ncappa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8718334/ cfhowlett
[11:39] <janslow> todaysnoob it would but that's not the purpose of RAM. a SD card will be faster than a "standard" spinning disk drive anyway
[11:39] <janslow> todaysnoob if you are concerned about speed try Xubuntu rather than Ubuntu as that will be faster for you
[11:39] <Krayg> I would run Windows 10 in a virtual environment
[11:40] <cfhowlett> ncappa, lubuntu or xubuntu would be much better for older  / slower specification hardware like that.
[11:40] <sacarlson> kelunik: I think the update-grub part may end up being a bit more complicated
[11:41] <todaysnoob> janslow: right, thanks I'll get the new version of it. just for argument's sake, can we boot from a hdd install and then sort of minimize writes to the hdd? also when booting from SD card will the hdd remain turned off until they're specifically mounted?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | ncappa,
[11:41] <ncappa> Ok, the image i have at the moment on a usb here is just 14.04, it's one I had around. I need this device to be up by tomorrow really, it just needs basic functionality.
[11:41] <ncappa> thanks a lot man :)
[11:42] <janslow> todaysnoob I think the latest kernel shuts off the hdd when it is not in use irregardless of mount state, my netbook does at least. What are you worried about?
[11:42] <linxlad> hey guys
[11:43] <linxlad> in my .desktop file
[11:43] <linxlad> I want to run a program as root
[11:43] <todaysnoob> old hdd with some files from a windows install i'd rather just let it rest until needed, than have constantly spinning and dying
[11:43] <linxlad> I have Exec=sudo -u root /home/nathan/Navicat/start_navicat.sh
[11:43] <wooker> :)
[11:43] <linxlad> but how do I pass the password?
[11:43] <ncappa> ok cfhowlett I've done the majority of stuff on that guide already. I've done a partition in windows, installed 14.04 through the live USB based installer, and now I can't get into ubuntu.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> ncappa, error messages?  or what?
[11:44] <kelunik> sacarlson: That's my concern. But it should work if I install a fresh Ubuntu and replace it afterwards, when MBR is overwritten?
[11:44] <ncappa> There's no error to report. All that happens is I turn the PC on and it boots into windows like nothing ever happened.
[11:44] <cfhowlett> ncappa, windows # ???
[11:44] <Krayg> You need to check out the boot.ini
[11:44] <ncappa> I'm pretty sure the install went through
[11:44] <kelunik> cfhowlett: yes, windows 10 tech preview
[11:44] <ncappa> WIndows *.1
[11:45] <ncappa> *8.1
[11:46] <cfhowlett> ncappa, windows # ???1
[11:47] <Pici> cfhowlett: ?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> !uefi | ncappa , 8.1 should be a UEFI device - couple of extra steps needed
[11:47] <ncappa> So any idea on where ubuntu went after I installed it? there's nothing on the "This PC" thing in windows that indicates another partition. I'm running Windows 8.1
[11:47] <ncappa> It's not UEFI I don't think
[11:48] <ncappa> It didn't go into a UEFI bios thing when I hit f2
[11:48] <cfhowlett> ncappa, best I bail.  I thought all 8.1 devices were efi ...
[11:48] <brontosaurusrex> ncappa: i doubt windows would see any extXY partitions by default
[11:49] <kelunik> ncappa: if you installed your ubuntu on extX, windows won't show that partition, because it can't read it.
[11:49] <Krayg> ncappa, check your startup and recovery module. Turn on time display list of operating systems
[11:49] <ncappa> kelunik i didn't think so either...
[11:49] <ncappa> Krayg how do I do that?
[11:49] <todaysnoob> thanks ActionParsnip, janslow i'll give xubuntu a shot
[11:50] <Krayg> Computer | Properties | Advanced System Settings | Startup and Recovery
[11:50] <iger> hi
[11:50] <kelunik> ncappa: try pressing win + c → settings → power → shutdown (while pressing shift) → more options → use a device or efi settings
[11:50] <kelunik> I don't really remember how that menu entries are called.
[11:51] <usbehci> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2h5k2dk&s=8#.VE98pIWd6bg
[11:51] <usbehci> Screen be like this for 5 seconds after login. What is the problem
[11:52] <cristian_c> Hello
[11:52] <cristian_c> I've a multimedia keyboard
[11:52] <cristian_c> *got
[11:52] <n13z> usbehci: seems a problem with vga driver
[11:53] <usbehci> Is this really a problem? Because my computer works normal. Just 5 seconds of this vision. Then I see my desktop
[11:54] <cristian_c> either /lib/udev/findkeyboards and sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/eventX commands, pressing multimedia keys does nothing
[11:54] <iger> hi
[11:54] <cristian_c> same situation with sudo evtest
[11:54] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:55] <Ben64> cristian_c: does it print anything using "xev"
[11:55] <Avic> Hello. I really want to install a nx server in my server with ubuntu 14.10. But i can't find a guide that can install the freenx or the nomachine to my ubuntu version. Can anyone help, please. Thank you.
[11:56] <henk_> hoe krijg ik mijn Lexmark X6675 via WiFi aan de gang?
[11:56] <Krayg> Henk_ English please.
[11:56] <NikTh> Does anyone know any workaround on how to make the nouveau driver hibernate correct ? Just don't tell me to install Nvidia drivers.
[11:57] <henk_> How can I get my Lexmark X6675 printer to work over WiFi?
[11:57] <Ben64> NikTh: you might not be able to hibernate, best to just let that dream die now
[11:57] <Krayg> Is it wifi capable?
[11:58] <selwyn> Hi All.. Has anyone tried the new Ubuntu 14.10??
[11:58] <NikTh> Ben64: Hahaha, I know, but I hope for a workaround, a kernel parameter maybe, or a nouveau option..something..
[11:58] <henk_> It is a WiFi printer and I have Xubuntu on my laptop.
[11:58] <Ben64> NikTh: might not even be the graphics holding it back
[11:59] <Krayg> henk_, can you search the network for network printers? Does it pick it up?
[11:59] <Avic> can i use one of this repositorys in ubuntu 14.10? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX#Installing_the_FreeNX_server_on_Ubuntu_Karmic_.289.10.29_and_higher
[11:59] <kelunik> selwyn: yep.
[11:59] <NikTh> Ben64:  It's clearly that nouveau causes the problem.. when I unload the module hibernation works.
[11:59] <brent> heyas, is it possible to some how constantly check that a program is running and if not run it?
[11:59] <Krayg> A script will be able to do that brent
[12:00] <selwyn> Seeking advice on how to upgrade from 14.04 any ideas?
[12:00] <kelunik> brent: you're probably searching for daemontools
[12:00] <NikTh> selwyn: What you mean how to upgrade ?
[12:00] <Ben64> selwyn: you can use the update manager, or stay on 14.04 since it is supported until 2019
[12:00] <Krayg> selwyn, make sure you backup before doing anything
[12:01] <BluesKaj> NikTh, you can blacklist nouveau, but that hasn't been necessary lately, you may be incorrect in your assumption that nouveau is the problem
[12:01] <brent> selwtn could that possibly work with X11VNC?
[12:01] <selwyn> so it is better to install sepeartely from iso ..am i right?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> selwyn, 14.04 for the win.  LTS only.
[12:01] <Ben64> selwyn: there really is no advantage to having 14.10 over 14.04
[12:02] <alumne1smx> ds
[12:02] <Pici> Er.. Some people do like having the latest packages though...
[12:03] <NikTh> BluesKaj: I have blacklisted nouveau and tested the hibernation again, and it worked as it should. So, why my assumption is incorrect ?
[12:03] <selwyn> ok.  thanks for the advice mates..i will be careful
[12:03] <cfhowlett> Pici, bleeding edge = bloody edge.  IMO
[12:03] <Ben64> if you want the "latest" packages, ubuntu isn't for you at all
[12:04] <NikTh> I have tested other modules unload as well, but to no avail. Only when I unloaded nouveau the hibernation worked.
[12:04] <Pici> selwyn: You can upgrade from 14.04 if you want.  You do not need to reinstall if you want to go to 14.10.
[12:05] <NikTh> And the problem is clearly that happens when the graphics struggle to load again. I can see the uncompress of the image completed successfully, but then the screen remains black.
[12:05] <selwyn> Pici guide me please..Can it be done in terminal or down load the iso?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> there's no need to blacklist nouveau if you installed the recommended nvidia driver, NikTh
[12:05] <Ben64> selwyn: do you have an actual reason to get 14.10? if not, you should just stay on 14.04
[12:05] <Pici> selwyn: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades
[12:07] <selwyn> Ben64: Ben i think i will follow your advice but am just curious to see the diffrernces between the two as i am new on Ubuntu.Thanks
[12:07] <NikTh> BluesKaj: This is a test. A test where you can search and find which module can cause this problem. /sys/power/pm_test
[12:07] <Ben64> selwyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes
[12:08] <NikTh> I don't want to install the Nvidia drivers, nouveau works very-very well for me, I ditched Nvidia when I discovered that I can play the games I want (Steam) more smooth and without problems with nouveau.
[12:08] <selwyn> Thanks Ben64
[12:08] <NikTh> Yes, more smooth, that's stands correct. :-)
[12:09] <hossein_> hi everybody
[12:09] <Krayg> Greetings
[12:09] <hossein_> im newcomer linux
[12:10] <hossein_> hey
[12:10] <hossein_> hello
[12:10] <sabun> ok
[12:10] <hossein_> can u help me?
[12:10] <sabun> ask
[12:10] <Krayg> Fire away
[12:10] <hossein_> hi brother
[12:10] <sabun> hi
[12:11] <hossein_> my driver graphic not install :(
[12:11] <hossein_> ausu x550dp
[12:11] <Krayg> What kind of graphics card do you have?
[12:11] <hossein_> now use xubuntu
[12:11] <Ben64> hossein_: which graphic driver, which graphics card, which version of linux, how did you try to install the graphics driver?
[12:12] <sabun> and how did you know its not installed
[12:12] <hossein_> ati amd radeon hd 8670 m
[12:12] <hossein_> im download driver
[12:12] <hossein_> and install but not install
[12:13] <White_Cat> phix, I am looking
[12:13] <Krayg> Are you using a laptop?
[12:13] <White_Cat> seems like compresison and encryption settings
[12:13]  * BluesKaj shrugs, NikTh, the default nvidia driver is nouveau
[12:14] <hossein_> yeah bro
[12:14] <hossein_> notebook asus x550DP
[12:14] <White_Cat> ah terminal is listed before connecting
[12:14] <hossein_> can u help me?
[12:15] <White_Cat> how can I change the terminal version I use?
[12:15] <White_Cat> I dont see bash etc lited anywhere
[12:15] <Ben64> hossein_: you didn't answer all the questions i asked
[12:15] <Ben64> hossein_: and i got another one for you... does that computer have dual gpu?
[12:15] <Pici> White_Cat: What do you want to use instead of bash?
[12:16] <White_Cat> ah found it
[12:16] <White_Cat> I had to select "linux"
[12:16] <hossein_> yeah dual
[12:16] <NikTh> BluesKaj: When I say "Nvidia drivers" I ALWAYS mean the closed source ones (proprietary). Nouveau is an open source implementation for Nvidia cards, but it is not created from Nvidia corporation. Clear now ? :-)
[12:16] <White_Cat> it was set to ESC [n~
[12:17] <salik> hi
[12:17] <BluesKaj> NikTh, nevermind
 my graphicam is dual
[12:17] <hollusion>  i am looking for a small/medium sized notebook for my university (surfing, coding, etc) can you suggest me a brand/model/website?
[12:17] <carpediembaby> is there a way to extend the memory supported by ubuntu 32 bit without installing the 64 bit version?
[12:17] <Ben64> hossein_: ok, so now just missing.... which version of linux, and and how did you try to install the graphics driver?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> hollusion: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[12:18] <Ben64> carpediembaby: yes, should already be enabled on any 32 bit version
[12:18] <carpediembaby> i saw here that there is something called the Physical Address Extension http://askubuntu.com/questions/142043/whats-the-maximum-amount-of-ram-i-can-use-on-an-specific-hardware
[12:18] <hollusion> ActionParsnip: im sorry, thank you
[12:18] <hossein_> im using now xubuntu 64 bit
[12:18] <hossein_> ben64
[12:19] <Ben64> hossein_: try this maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[12:20] <carpediembaby> Ben64: I have 32 bit ubuntu installed on a computer which has 16G or RAM. It detects all the 16G but it only seems to use 3G out of the 16G. The rest seems to be available for 'cache' which seems to be on disk. I saw the output of iotop while copying a large file to /tmp and it showed up as disk read/write
[12:20] <Krayg> Why do you have a 32 bit version installed when you have 16GB of RAM?
[12:20] <hossein_> ben64 do you have team viewer?
[12:21] <NikTh> Krayg: +1
[12:21] <Ben64> hossein_: yes, but i'm not going to do that
[12:21] <BluesKaj> carpediembaby, 32 bit architecture can see only 4G RAM
[12:21] <hossein_> :(
[12:21] <Ben64> carpediembaby: what is the output of "free -m"
[12:23] <hossein_> ben64 im have problem automatic brightess screen change why ?
[12:23] <hossein_> change automatic brightess screen on open browser ,........
[12:24] <Krayg> Have you installed the graphics card drivers?
[12:24] <hossein_> nope it falid install
[12:24] <carpediembaby> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/jRsX8QH1
[12:24] <Krayg> Why? What was the error message?
[12:25] <NikTh> BluesKaj: And here is the answer from the official nouveau channel, that's what I meant : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81136
[12:25] <hossein_> can u help me bro?
[12:25] <hossein_> hey
[12:25] <Krayg> We are trying to help you hossein_ but you are not answering our questions.
[12:26] <NikTh> Now I have to revert the commit and rebuild the kernel, in order to debug. Wish me luck :P
[12:26] <Krayg> Much luck
[12:26] <Krayg> :P
[12:26] <Ben64> carpediembaby: you definitely have 16GB of rams
[12:27] <hossein_> :'(
[12:27] <carpediembaby> Ben64: yes, I know. but i don't seem to be able to use it
[12:27] <Ben64> carpediembaby: but you are using ~6GB right now, looks fine
[12:29] <White_Cat> I am trying to run the command su odoo -c '/home/odoo/openerp-server -c /etc/odoo-server.conf' but it does nothing?
[12:29] <White_Cat> it waits until I ctrl+c out
[12:29] <Krayg> You should switch to 64 bit
[12:29] <White_Cat> which terminates session
[12:29] <administrateur> HI
[12:30] <Krayg> Greetings
[12:30] <Ben64> White_Cat: why are you using su instead of sudo? and i have no idea what odoo is so you're probably going to have to figure that out on your own
[12:31] <carpediembaby> Ben: On the system monitor, it shows i am using 1.5Gb. In the multiload indicator, it shows 1.5G ram usage and the rest as cache.
[12:31] <hossein_> please help me linux dn't support my graphic
[12:31] <hossein_> im test all method
[12:31] <hossein_> :(
[12:31] <administrateur> I just logged in using irssi from terminal , feels great!
[12:31] <Ben64> carpediembaby: ok? cache is still ram
[12:32] <Krayg> hossein_, then answer our questions
[12:32] <administrateur> help
[12:32] <brainwash> !ask
[12:34] <bumbar__> i'm getting permission denied when trying to set /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope to 0 (using sudo)
[12:35] <Abhijit> hi. how to whitelist website in openjdk?
[12:35] <Ben64> bumbar__: what is the actual command you're using
[12:35] <alexbligh1> My precise->trusty upgrade (do-release-upgrade at the console) failed due to something to do with nova. I've removed the unwanted errant package. But I don't seem to be fully upgraded (e.g. still running apache 2.2). Is there some way to force an upgrade to occur again?
[12:35] <bumbar__> Ben64, sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
[12:35] <bumbar__> i mean 0
[12:35] <Ben64> bumbar__: yep you can't do that that way
[12:35] <carpediembaby> Ben64: I suppose. But there seems to be something weird going on. I am trying to understand what is happening. Two observations which I can't seem to explain. First, i ran a java program and it crashed with an error saying that it was unable to allocate memory. At that time, the entire 16G of ram/cache combination was far from consumed.
[12:36] <carpediembaby> Ben64: Second, I tried copying some big files into /tmp and noticing iotop showed that it was writing to disk while the 'cache' part of the ram got filled up.
[12:36] <Ben64> bumbar__: echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope
[12:37] <Ben64> carpediembaby: i can't see how the /tmp test is relevant at all
[12:38] <levo> i'v got a pdf document of a book in which 2pages of the book are in one page of the pdf (i
[12:38] <bumbar__> Ben64, thanks
[12:38] <Ben64> carpediembaby: as for java, i think processes are still limited to a certain amount of memory
[12:38] <carpediembaby> Ben64:  this leads me to believe that the 16GB is mimicked somehow and not really using the RAM
[12:38] <levo> oops
[12:39] <Avic> i need help for installing the freeNX in Ubuntu. I can find a way to install it in ubuntu 14.10. Sould I install the ubuntu 14.4?
[12:39] <carpediembaby> Ben64: For the /tmp, shouldn't it be mounted to the RAM? If not, how come the 'cache' of the ram fills up when i copy the files to /tmp ?
[12:39] <levo> i'v got a pdf document of a book in which 2pages of the book are in one page of the pdf (pictures not selectable text) how can i make  a pdf file but separate the pdf file in half, meaning that the left half of the pdf page will be copied on one full page of the output pdf . . . ?
[12:39] <Ben64> carpediembaby: by default, i believe /tmp is on disk
[12:40] <Avic> and use this repository: http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/testing/ubuntu
[12:40] <Avic> ?
[12:41] <Ben64> Avic: you should not mix versions
[12:42] <Avic> i want to install the freenx, i have ubuntu 14.10. What version of ubuntu should i have to use it with freeNX?
[12:42] <carpediembaby> Ben64: Okay. So, right now, I have 6.8GB (with about 8GB of free RAM) of used memory according to free -m. Now, if i try to run my java app with 3G of heap (java -Xmx3G -jar myjar.jar) I get "Could not reserve enough space for object heap"
[12:42] <Avic> What is the most recent ubuntu version for using freeNX?
[12:43] <Ben64> carpediembaby: you should maybe run 64bit if you want to use lots of ram anyway
[12:43] <Ben64> Avic: well in that ppa you posted, the latest they have is 14.04
[12:44] <Avic> yeahn but its testing. Its fine to use it?
[12:44] <Ben64> if you really need freenx, maybe. PPAs are unsupported though
[12:44] <Avic> the latest stable is for ubuntu 12.04... its to old
[12:44] <carpediembaby> Ben64: Yes I know, but i am stuck to this for now. The system admin won't install the 64Bit version right away. That is why I was asking if there is a way to support 64bit (temporarily) without having to do a clean install
[12:45] <moldy> hi
[12:45] <Avic> ok i will install ubuntu 14.04
[12:45] <Ben64> carpediembaby: try 2GB with java
[12:46] <moldy> i have a driver that needs one of these: XInput         : 16.0 / 18.0 / 19.1
[12:47] <moldy> how do i check the version i have installed?
[12:47] <moldy> xinput --version: xinput version 1.5.99.1
[12:47] <moldy> i guess this is a different versioning scheme?
[12:48] <Ben64> looks like it, but what version of ubuntu do you have
[12:48] <brainwash> moldy: check "apt-cache policy xinput"
[12:48] <moldy> brainwash: Installed: 1.5.99.1-0ubuntu2
[12:48] <moldy> brainwash: this does not seem to make sense
[12:48] <moldy> brainwash: is ubuntu using its own versioning here, completely independent of the upstream versioning?
[12:48] <Ben64> moldy: what version of ubuntu?
[12:49] <moldy> Ben64: 12.04
[12:49] <Ben64> you realize that 12.04 is no longer supported on desktops?
[12:49] <brainwash> it appears to be a release candidate version of 1.6
[12:49] <Ben64> errr.. i'm crazy
[12:49] <Ben64> nevermind, got it confused with 10.04
[12:50] <moldy> Ben64: anyway, 12.04 is the only version that will work with my hardware. i do not need updates for this system
[12:50] <Ben64> its cool, you don't have to upgrade until 2017 :)
[12:50] <Ben64> unless you do need a newer xinput
[12:50] <moldy> brainwash: the readme of the driver talks about 16.0 / 18.0 / 19.1
[12:50] <AlexPortable> Will firefox get updated on 14.04 lts?
[12:50] <moldy> this is obviously some other versioning scheme than the ubuntu packages
[12:50] <k1l_> AlexPortable: yes
[12:51] <AlexPortable> also not only security updates but also feature updates?
[12:51] <brainwash> moldy: well, try to ask in #xorg then
[12:51] <k1l_> AlexPortable: how long are you using ubuntu now?
[12:51] <lapion> moldy, what hardware are you using ?
[12:51] <AlexPortable> k1l_: why?
[12:51] <moldy> lapion: a penmount touch screen
[12:52] <lapion> What model ?
[12:52] <moldy> lapion: in combination with a cedarview atom, which means the graphics will only work properly on 12.04
[12:52] <k1l_> alexsince ubuntu changed that "only security patches" for the browsers quite some time ago
[12:52] <k1l_> AlexPortable: ^
[12:52] <AlexPortable> so browsers will get updated
 AlexPortable: yes
[12:53] <moldy> lapion: let me check if i can find out
[12:53] <AlexPortable> ok
[12:53] <AlexPortable> can someone help me with the gnome-fallback bars?
[12:53] <lapion> moldy, what atom cpu ?
[12:53] <AlexPortable> when I alt+rightclick, I get the minimize, maximize, move, resize, always on top, close menu
[12:53] <Abhijit> hi. how to whitelist website in openjdk?
[12:53] <moldy> lapion: penmount 6000 series
[12:53] <Abhijit> nvm
[12:53] <moldy> lapion: atom N2600
[12:54] <wpd> Hello, apt-get is broken on my machine, I get: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/ports.ubuntu.com_ubuntu-ports_dists_trusty-updates_main_i18n_Translation-en (1) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. Is it ok to just delete the file and try again?
[12:54] <lapion> I have a Fujitsu siemens tablet with a Pentium M1 that I have tweaked and now it runs 14.04
[12:55] <moldy> lapion: nice, but i don't see how that would help me :)
[12:56] <lapion> Seeing that the Atom cpu you are using is 64 bit you should have no troubles upgrading all the way to 14.04..
[12:56] <k1l_> wpd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[12:56] <moldy> lapion: the graphics driver does not work with 64 bit, neither does it work with 14.04
[12:56] <lapion> however I would make a backup of the current installation to restore just in case..
[12:57] <wpd> kil_: thank you.
[12:57] <moldy> lapion: nothing to backup there, it's pretty much a clean installation. anyway, i cannot upgrade, i am locked to ubuntu 12.04, kernel 3.11, xorg 1.11.3
[12:58] <moldy> lapion: the driver requires very specific versions, and so does the graphics driver
[12:58] <lapion> What is the graphics chip ?
[12:58] <AlexPortable> Is there any way I can merge the top bar in gnome fallback like in unity?
[12:58] <moldy> lapion: cedarview
[12:58] <moldy> lapion: google it if you don't know the sad story :p
[12:59] <k1l_> AlexPortable: no
[12:59] <moldy> lapion: ubuntu 12.04 is the only version that supports it, to my knowledge
[12:59] <AlexPortable> k1l_: that sucks :(
[12:59] <moldy> lapion: which is my whole reason for trying ubuntu instead of debian
[13:00] <lapion> Do you mean: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_GMA3600
[13:01] <moldy> lapion: i think this is it, yes
[13:03] <sudodaemon> I feel this is simple, can anybody help me with some grub/windows boot loader questions. I have and want to keep grub, I have Ubuntu, Windows 7, and Windows XP on my laptop. When I use grub to pick the windows 7 or XP partition it then loads windows boot loader and I have to choose which windows I want again. Is there a way to just have grub be the first and last step to booting? How do I get rid of windows boot manager
[13:10] <lapion> moldy, that's too bad.. try patching it to dkms against newer kernels..
[13:11] <moldy> lapion: why? i don't *want* a newer kernel...
[13:11] <moldy> i don't want 14.04
[13:11] <lapion> if you can patch it to dkms against newer kernels you could upgrade to 14.04
[13:11] <moldy> all i want is to get the touch working.
[13:11] <moldy> i don't want 14.04
[13:11] <lapion> okay..
[13:11] <moldy> the touch is supposed to be supported on 12.04
[13:12] <lapion> I have touch working with my FS out of the box.. however the pentium M1 being blacklisted for having no officila support for PAE..
[13:13] <lapion> I had to tweak the os into believing my cpu had pae support..
[13:13] <cwarner> code of conduct routine doesn't work on launchpad.net and the support link is crashing. Where can I report this?
[13:13] <moldy> the touch is also working perfectly fine on debian stable, so this should definitely be possible
[13:13] <lapion> moldy try using the Fujitsu siemens tablet drivers
[13:15] <moldy> lapion: thanks, i will try if my current attempts fail
[13:17] <onla> I have HD 6800 series ATI radeon GPU. Would you suggest me installing drivers for it from the Additional Drivers manager in ubuntu, or downloading (more up to date?) drivers from the AMD page and using the manual method?
[13:27] <lapion> moldy use the inputattach drivers....
[13:29] <lapion> moldy, in the package manager if you filter on penmount 6000 it should have shown you that driver but to err on the safe side add some wacom drivers as well
[13:29] <mhammons> is anyone here familiar with boost and cmake? I have libboost-all-dev installed but find_package(BOOST) says it cant find boost headers on my system
[13:31] <White_Cat> Ben64 why? because I am looking at documentation
[13:31] <trung_> I used pm-suspend and now my webcam is always on :(
[13:32] <moldy> lapion: got it working by performing a kernel downgrade, reboot and re-installation of the penmount driver
[13:32] <White_Cat> I need to run su odoo -c '/home/odoo/openerp-server -c /etc/odoo-server.conf'
[13:32] <White_Cat> so I run it with sudo su
[13:32] <moldy> White_Cat: sudo -u odoo command
[13:33] <trung_> can anyone help me with the pm-suspend problem?
[13:33] <lapion> moldy, you are focusing too much on the closed source manufacturers driver try the opensourced ubuntu official drivers
[13:33] <White_Cat> ah
[13:33] <moldy> lapion: no, it's working fine now. i cannot invest any more time into this.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> onla: the packed version is easier and manages things for you
[13:34] <White_Cat> moldy hmm
[13:34] <White_Cat> so sudo -u odoo -c '/home/odoo/openerp-server -c /etc/odoo-server.conf' ?
[13:34] <moldy> White_Cat: no. sudo -u odoo command
[13:35] <moldy> White_Cat: `su -c command`, but `sudo command`
[13:35] <lapion> moldy, congratulations
[13:35] <moldy> lapion: thanks
[13:35] <White_Cat> ah
[13:36] <moldy> i will suggest that we stop selling these devices for linux applications. the graphics card is just making too much trouble.
[13:36] <White_Cat> should I dump the second -c ?
[13:36] <lapion> Next time you have time, try to use it efficiently by getting it to work with ubuntu supported drivers so we can actually help you doing it right..
[13:37] <White_Cat> sudo: /home/odoo/openerp-server /etc/odoo-server.conf: command not found
[13:37] <moldy> lapion: that is what i did
[13:37] <moldy> lapion: these drivers *are* officially supported for ubuntu 12.04
[13:37] <lapion> by the manufacturer not by ubuntu..
[13:37] <White_Cat> openerp-server does exist under /home/odoo
[13:38] <moldy> sure, but my questions was not really about these drivers. it was about how to determine the correct XInput version.
[13:38] <onla> actionParsnip, ok tks
[13:41] <moldy> White_Cat: what does `ls -l /home/odoo/openerp-server` say?
[13:41] <White_Cat> it is owned by a different user
[13:41] <White_Cat> I think I need to chown it
[13:41] <White_Cat> how can i do that though?
[13:44] <moldy> White_Cat: don't guess. show us the output.
[13:44] <White_Cat> I dont guess
[13:44] <White_Cat> I see it
[13:44] <White_Cat> -rwxrwxr-x 1 odoo_user odoo_admin 155 Oct 28 11:07 /home/odoo/openerp-se
[13:44] <moldy> White_Cat: you are guessing. the owner is not related to your problem.
[13:44] <White_Cat> okay I posted it
[13:46] <moldy> White_Cat: you probably entered the sudo command incorrectly. please repeat it here exactly.
[13:46] <moldy> be sure to repeat it exactly as you entered it. the error message suggests you entered quotes where you should not.
[13:47] <White_Cat> sudo -u odoo_user '/home/odoo/openerp-server /etc/odoo-server.conf'
[13:47] <moldy> White_Cat: ok. remove the quotes, then it should work.
[13:47] <AlexPortable> Are there any tweaks available for gnome fallback?
[13:47] <SimonKing> how to use google in China
[13:48] <cardio76> list!
[13:48] <k1l_> AlexPortable: no. its a downstripped version from gnome.
[13:48] <moldy> White_Cat: `sudo foo bar` will run the command `foo` with the argument `bar`. in contrast to that, `sudo 'foo bar'` will run the command `foo bar`
[13:48] <AlexPortable> it looks nice tho
[13:48] <White_Cat> I see
[13:48] <White_Cat> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/odoo_admin/.local'
[13:48] <AlexPortable> White_Cat: yes you do
[13:48] <moldy> White_Cat: that is because your shell treats `foo bar` as 2 arguments, but `'foo bar'` as one argument
[13:49] <k1l_> AlexPortable: features vs. look. your choice
[13:49] <AlexPortable> k1l_: well i want both
[13:49] <freetos00> i forgot to do and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade before trying to install the mate desktop and it says it's not available?
[13:50] <k1l_> AlexPortable: what you want is not important here. what gnome-fallback offers is important. and you know what it offers. if you want more talk to gnome
[13:51] <AlexPortable> k1l_: any other DE that does what i want?
[13:52] <k1l_> AlexPortable: i dont know what you want but take a look here: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ
[13:52] <freetos00> i later did and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and it still doesn't show it's avaiable do i need to clear cache?
[13:52] <AlexPortable> well I want something that looks like windows, bottom bar with start menu button and items and system tray bottom right corner
[13:52] <skypce> hello all, i am trying to setup openvpn in ubuntu 12.04 i have this message OpenVPN 2.1 requires '--script-security 2' or higher to call user-defined scripts or executables
[13:53] <k1l_> AlexPortable: see my link
[13:53] <AlexPortable> yeah but none of them have that
[13:53] <White_Cat> moldy what should I do? what could be causing the permission error
[13:53] <White_Cat> why is odoo_admin .local even relevant?
[13:53] <AlexPortable> lxde and kde come close, but are ugly
[13:53] <k1l_> AlexPortable: ok. if you are not interessted at all stop asking.
[13:53] <AlexPortable> ubuntu 10.04 was perfect
[13:53] <AlexPortable> until you guys moved to unity
[13:54] <k1l_> AlexPortable: lxde is what you want. it offers all you told just 2 minutes ago
[13:54] <iptable> AlexPortable, try Linux Mint Cinnamon , or Linux Mint Mate. Both look exactly like you want themm to
[13:54] <AlexPortable> What do you mean 'if you are not interested at all'
[13:54] <k1l_> "<AlexPortable> yeah but none of them have that"  that is just a lie or you did not look at my link in my answer at all.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> SimonKing, vpn.
[13:55] <AlexPortable> 14:53 <AlexPortable> lxde and kde come close, but are ugly
[13:55] <AlexPortable> any way to make unity less system demanding?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, not really.  By design, it's flashy and hungry.
[13:56] <AlexPortable> I love how the top bar integrates with the close buttons
[13:57] <k1l_> AlexPortable: other desktop  makers dont like that. so you will need unity for that.
[13:57] <cardio76> list!
[13:57] <AlexPortable> well what is so heavy about unity?
[13:57] <k1l_> !list > cardio76
[13:57] <AlexPortable> the animations? or the left bar?
[13:57] <AlexPortable> because I have to wait one minute before the alt+f2 disappears
[13:58] <k1l_> AlexPortable: it offers a lot of services. its not that more heavy than gnome-shell
[13:58] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, get more ram.
[13:58] <AlexPortable> i have enough ram
[13:58] <AlexPortable> gnome-classic-fallback is fast
[13:58] <k1l_> AlexPortable: you are again mixing things. i said "gnome-shell"
[13:58] <AlexPortable> what's the difference?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> !gnome-shell
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !gnome
[14:00] <AlexPortable> How can I fix the menu bar in unity?
[14:00] <rocky> so... since upgrading to ubuntu 14.10 ... latest chrome stable, chrome beta, and chromium ... after i open about 8 or so tabs i consistently get a crashed tab... it lets me reload only to go to the crash info again
[14:00] <AlexPortable> I had the same problem in gnome, when i alt+rightclick i get the menu 'minimize, maximize, move, resize, always on top, close'
[14:00] <rocky> is this a known issue? any work around?
[14:01] <White_Cat> http://pastebin.com/anb65e3d <- now I get this error
[14:01] <White_Cat> I am quite confused
[14:01] <k1l_> AlexPortable: what do you want to fix on the unity bar?
[14:01] <AlexPortable> I just said
[14:01] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, fix?  It's not broken.  and you've been given no fewer than a dozen suggestions on the last 20 minutes, all of which you've rejected.  So ... good luck.
[14:01] <AlexPortable> 15:00 <AlexPortable> I had the same problem in gnome, when i alt+rightclick i get the menu 'minimize, maximize, move, resize, always on top, close'
[14:01] <AlexPortable> it is broken
[14:01] <k1l_> AlexPortable: what do you want to get instead?
[14:01] <AlexPortable> well, add to panel?
[14:01] <AlexPortable> about on the notifications?
[14:02] <k1l_> AlexPortable: that is not possible anymore
[14:02] <feurd> Hi! Does someone knows how to set a global hotkey for the auto-type feature of keepass2 under Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:02] <AlexPortable> what do you get then k1l_ ?
[14:02] <AlexPortable> when you alt+rightclick?
[14:02] <k1l_> AlexPortable: the menu you mentioned. and that is what is meant to get up
[14:03] <AlexPortable> huh
[14:03] <AlexPortable> then why the 'always on top' ?
[14:03] <actionParsnip> AlexPortable: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iC-GN_jB--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/17f7ekax65bz6jpg.jpg    left = gnome shell, right = unity
[14:03] <k1l_> AlexPortable: what?
[14:03] <qengho> rocky: Hrm, check "dmesg" output. Does it say "gpu" and/or "i9nn"?
[14:03] <k1l_> AlexPortable: can you please stay on one issue at a time?
[14:03] <AlexPortable> why?
[14:04] <AlexPortable> http://img.nl.eu.org/ialuYB.png
[14:04] <k1l_> you were talking about window-decorations, then about systray, now about "always on top" for windows.
[14:04] <AlexPortable> yes because i was trying unity
[14:04] <AlexPortable> but ran into this bug
[14:04] <k1l_> which bug?
[14:04] <AlexPortable> that it shows this
[14:04] <k1l_> "all is different" is not a bug.
[14:05] <k1l_> that is because the window menu is integrated into the top panel.
[14:05] <cfhowlett> k1l_, dang.  that saying should be a LAW
[14:05] <AlexPortable> huh
[14:06] <k1l_> AlexPortable: you just said you like how the menu from the window integrates into the top bar. so why are you surprised now to get the window settings mneu there?
[14:08] <rocky> qengho, oh yeah, i'm seeing tons of segfaults from chrome regarding i965_dri
[14:09] <qengho> rocky: it's new video. That's hard to fix.
[14:09] <rocky> ugh
[14:10] <rocky> this is my exact issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/541131/chromium-dmesg-errors-ubuntu-14-10     seems the only thing i can do is build my own kernel or wait for an updated kernel
[14:11] <ionreflex> !guideline
[14:12] <AlexPortable> k1l_: because what would there be to put on top
[14:13] <k1l_> AlexPortable: its the window menu from the window that is active. it is not meant to be put into the panel. its meant to be put on top of all windows
[14:13] <AlexPortable> there is no winow open
[14:13] <AlexPortable> window*
[14:14] <Shunya> hello
[14:15] <chemist^> hi everyone
[14:15] <actionParsnip> rocky: is this after an upgrade from Trusty?
[14:16] <brainwash> rocky: try google-chrome --disable-gpu
[14:18] <chemist^> i've got a question to ask, although it's not really ubuntu related i hope someone is willing to help me solve this :) .. is there a way to connect to a wireless network this way: [my pc] -> [wifi router] -> [ssh to a laptop] -> [target wifi router]? (the connection between the laptop and the 2 routers is wireless - 2 wireless interfaces)
[14:18] <chemist^> iptable you here man? :)
[14:19] <Shunya> hi, how to delete or stop, ubuntu search... recent history in ubuntu
[14:19] <qengho> rocky: you should find the bug on launchpad. That's where problems are solved, not AskUbuntu.
[14:19] <cfhowlett> Shunya, system privacy settings ..
[14:19] <k1l_> Shunya: see privacy settings in system settings
[14:19] <Shunya> htanks cfhowlett , k1l_
[14:20] <cfhowlett> Shunya, happy2help
[14:21] <groverblue> so, after upgrading my VirtualBox guest 14.04 to 14.10, I can only boot into unity by booting into recovery mode and then resuming the boot.  Doing a straight boot just results in the boot process sitting on the boot splash screen.
[14:23] <CosbySweater> groverblue: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop or whatever the package is called. This has been caused by login managers not starting in earlier versions, from what I can see.
[14:23] <JayJ> My 14.04 KVM guest freezes intermitently. I see stack trace in syslog and this message "INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks"
[14:24] <JayJ> Any help on where to start looking to root cause this?
[14:26] <groverblue> CosbySweater: will do.  Thanks. Love the nick!  haha.
[14:26] <CosbySweater> groverblue: :D
[14:27] <CosbySweater> JayJ: Is this only happening with 14.04?
[14:28] <JayJ> CosbySweater: That's the one I've running at the moment. My cirros seems to work fine but it is not doing anything useful. I'm actually going to spin off some other flavor to test whether its OS or maybe HW.
[14:28] <apavlov> On 14.04, the "Allow different sources for each window" is not working for me. Instead, all windows share the same input source. What gives?
[14:29] <qengho> apavlov: You mean the input method?
[14:30] <apavlov> qengho: yep
[14:30] <qengho> Ah, yes.
[14:30] <CosbySweater> JayJ: From googling a bit, it seems this could be hardware related. Worth giving it a go with other flavors to see if it's occurring.
[14:30] <energo> hello
[14:30] <JayJ> CosbySweater: Will do and update you in a while. Thanks
[14:31] <SimonKing> MPPE required, but MS-CHAP[v2] nor EAP-TLS auth are performed.What does this mean?
[14:31] <lumia900> am able to see my share file in network but it says Error code: 0x80070035
[14:32] <Fanfare> Q: what happened to acpi-support??? missing files like /etc/acpi/rotatescreen.sh
[14:33] <SimonKing> who can help me...
[14:33] <CosbySweater> lumia900: that's a windows event id, check the event viewer. Seems to be related to firewalls or permissions
[14:33] <lumia900> firewall in ubuntu ?
[14:33] <CosbySweater> SimonKing: you have several auth requirements in your pptp options most likely.
[14:33] <CosbySweater> lumia900: not sure, possibly.
[14:33] <somsip> !ufw | lumia900
[14:34] <lumia900> oh the nmbd is the firewall service
[14:34] <crunchbang> hola a toos
[14:35] <crunchbang> como estan_
[14:35] <crunchbang> se liga algo en esta sala
[14:35] <crunchbang> o es solo para nerds
[14:35] <crunchbang> jejeje
[14:36] <SimonKing> CosbySweater:how to fix it
[14:37] <lumia900> root@CMLINDFS:~# sudo ufw disable
[14:37] <lumia900> Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup
[14:37] <lumia900> but now the same am getting
[14:38] <lumia900> i dont think that firewall is running in backend
[14:38] <shiggity> hi all I asked this question over in #kubuntu: <shiggity> I"m trying to get build-essential and its package deps to download ONLY so I can copy them to a USB stick to install onto a device that has no network as of yet. is it possible?
[14:38] <chep> hi
[14:38] <lumia900> root@CMLINDFS:~# sudo ufw status
[14:38] <lumia900> Status: inactive
[14:38] <CosbySweater> SimonKing: Not sure, I only know what causes it. :(
[14:39] <shiggity> anyone?
[14:39] <chep> I'm trying to configure the ntp server. Ubuntu web doc looks fine and server is started but clients can only connect after about 3 minutes. Before I have this message: ntpdate[10065]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[14:40] <CosbySweater> shiggity: I'm not sure how to go about it the usb stick way, but I usually tether my phone to the pc whenever it's required to get a network card up and running.
[14:40] <chep> I do not have the same problem on archlinux
[14:40] <somsip> shiggity: doesn't apt-get -d force download only? Not sure about deps though...
[14:40] <shiggity> CosbySweater, USB tether?
[14:40] <shiggity> my phone's being a derp
[14:41] <shiggity> somsip, yeah I'd need the deps
[14:41] <somsip> shiggity: have you tried -d to see if it does pull deps?
[14:41] <shiggity> I'll do that now
[14:41] <lumia900> ubottu any idea why am still unable to get that share folder open from my side
[14:42] <Shunya> ubottu u'r intelligent bot :)
[14:44] <CosbySweater> lumia900: grep 'smb ports' /etc/samba/smb.conf
[14:44] <CosbySweater> or what the path is
[14:46] <CosbySweater> lumia900: does that command return anything?
[14:48] <CosbySweater> lumia900: otherwise, check out this setting: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc728025(v=ws.10).aspx
[14:49] <raid-fu> all, i have a raid problem. it shows as "inactive" and if i try enabling it. it says assembled from 5 drives and 1 rebuilding - not enough to start the array   / i'm confused. how is it rebuilding but not enough to start ?
[14:54] <groverblue> CosbySweater: nah, that didn't work.  Are logs from previous boots cleared?  Maybe I can find where it's stopping.
[14:55] <CosbySweater> groverblue: no clue, I would ssh into the system if possible
[14:55] <arc__> Hello
[14:55] <CosbySweater> groverblue: try to see what's not running that should
[14:56] <arc__> what goes on in this channel ?
[14:58] <groverblue> it might be related to the swap partition.  I do get a message to please "s" to skip mounting during recovery boot.  That message is not shown with the splash screen.  the UUID in fstab can't be mounted.  hmm.
[14:58] <Pici> arc__: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. Where people ask and answer questions.  If you are just looking for general chat, you can join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:59] <CosbySweater> groverblue: uh-oh, doesn't sound like fun. I'm not sure what to do about it though :(
[15:00] <groverblue> I need to find out if there is a swap partition, first.  then, you're guess is as good as mine.  ;)
[15:00] <CosbySweater> groverblue: good plan, compare fstabs between recovery and normal system aswell
[15:01] <groverblue> CosbySweater: yeah. Ubuntu upgrades never go smooth!
[15:02] <Pottu> hi all. i have a problem with bluefish installation with ubuntu software center. I searched and found a latest version (2.2.6) which is newer than the one in that software center provides
[15:02] <Pottu> so i downloaded the .gzip file and unzipped it
[15:02] <Pottu> but now what?
[15:02] <Pottu> (and yes i am new to linux)
[15:03] <jParkton> open the terminal
[15:03] <Pottu> ok
[15:03] <jParkton> is the folder in your Downloads?
[15:03] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable a section of my touchpad?
[15:03] <Pottu> i moved it to /home/[username]/Documents
[15:03] <jParkton> cd ~/Documents
[15:03] <wizo> hello, can i ask if anyone is running ubuntu in vmware fusion on a mac with retina display? I'm having issues with everything in ubuntu shown being fuzzy
[15:04] <Pottu> ok
[15:04] <AlexPortable> When I put my thumb finger on the touchpad (for lmb) and my index finger on the rest of the touchpad, the touchpad thinks it's a 2 finger touch (which means rmb)
[15:04] <jParkton> unzip filename
[15:04] <jParkton> er dumb nvm lol
[15:04] <jParkton> cd into the le
[15:04] <jParkton> file
[15:04] <Pottu> ok
[15:04] <jParkton> is there a make file or what?
[15:05] <jParkton> config?
[15:05] <phix> White_Cat: How's it going?
[15:05] <jParkton> usually a config is there so ./configFileName
[15:05] <Pici> !who
[15:05] <Pottu> jParkton: makefile.am, makefile.in, makefile.mingw
[15:05] <jParkton> ok
[15:05] <jParkton> Pottu: type make
[15:06] <Pottu> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[15:07] <jParkton> hm
[15:07] <jParkton> Pottu: this is for bluefish editor?
[15:07] <Pottu> yes
[15:07] <Pottu> there is a configure.sh
[15:07] <jParkton> for what purpose?
[15:07] <jParkton> Oh
[15:07] <Pottu> sorry, no configure.sh only configure filename
[15:08] <jParkton> Pottu: ./configure
[15:08] <Pottu> ok
[15:08] <AlexPortable> In which folder does gnome-panels stores it configuration?
[15:08] <jParkton> AlexPortable: I believe ls -l ~/
[15:09] <jParkton> there will be a .config or .username or something?
[15:09] <linuxuz3r> anyone experienced with ubuntu and os x
[15:09] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu on mbp
[15:09] <Pottu> ./configure: line 5242: intltool-update: command not found
[15:09] <Pottu> checking for intltool-update... no
[15:09] <Pottu> checking for intltool-merge... no
[15:09] <Pottu> checking for intltool-extract... no
[15:09] <Pottu> configure: error: The intltool scripts were not found. Please install intltool.
[15:09] <edakiri> The Ubuntu 14.10 Desktop binary CD is not on CDImage.Ubuntu.com . Is that intentional? Is it going to be put there?
[15:10] <jParkton> Pici: whats the paste command lol
[15:10] <jParkton> Pottu: I really think this is going out of your way for nothing
[15:10] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu on mbp
[15:10] <linuxuz3r> anyone experienced with ubuntu and os x
[15:10] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu on mbp
[15:11] <derelinguo> wihch mbp you got?
[15:11] <linuxuz3r> mbp pro 2009
[15:11] <jParkton> Pottu: does this zipped edition add some features you need or something?
[15:11] <AlexPortable> jParkton: well i have .cache .config .dbus .gconf .local
[15:12] <jParkton> AlexPortable: cd ~/.config
[15:12] <AlexPortable> and which folder then?
[15:12] <jParkton> I think there is a gnome config in there or google gnome.config
[15:12] <AlexPortable> compiz, dconf, enchant, evolution, gedit, gnome-session
[15:13] <derelinguo> linuxuz3r, got the model type (e.g. mines an 11,1) - what you trying?
[15:13] <Avic> Hello. What client should i use with freeNX? I have windows 7 and want to access the server with ubuntu trusty. thanks
[15:13] <linuxuz3r> i am having trouble booting a ubuntu installation
[15:13] <linuxuz3r> i have refit and refind
[15:13] <linuxuz3r> when i boot it boots to windows
[15:14] <derelinguo> You trying a triple boot then?
[15:14] <garret1> can i increase the swap memory for a ubuntu server ?
[15:14] <garret1> currently its 90 m , and i have 32 gb of ram
[15:14] <jParkton> AlexPortable: try either in ~./gnome2/panel.d/default/launchers (for custom launchers) or in ~/.local/share/applications for system launchers for the logged in user
[15:15] <AlexPortable> i dont have .gnome2
[15:16] <alexgl> in ubuntu server 14.04 I have gadmin-samba setup but I cannot get into it from another linux nor windows 7. it's a virtual machine that has got ip from dhcp. Is there something from the path that I'm missing, i'm doing \\server-ip\share
[15:16] <linuxuz3r> derelinguo, yes
[15:17] <jParkton> AlexPortable: some googling is needed
[15:18] <jParkton> AlexPortable: do you have a .gconf?
[15:18] <lumia900> CosbySweater /etc/samba/smb.comf
[15:18] <jParkton> ls ~/.gconf
[15:18] <lumia900> CosbySweater /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:18] <derelinguo> linuxuz3r, 1st guess is grub not installed properly on refit. Boot into OS X and double check it's setup according to the instructions. Sorry it's been a while since I used refind/refit
[15:19] <linuxuz3r> when i install grub should i install it on the efi or on the root dir
[15:19] <Pottu> an endless swamp
[15:19] <lumia900> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8720491/
[15:19] <lumia900> CosbySweater i have pasted the config file over there
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> alexgl  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:20] <lucho_> Hi! there is a way to reinstall or reconfigure ubuntu "default" fonts? I googled it, and ran fc-cache -fr but nothing..
[15:20] <alexgl> MonkeyDust: thanks
[15:20] <Pottu> jParkton: i just installed the missing intltool
[15:20] <CosbySweater> lumia900: yeah, if you grep 'smb port' from that file
[15:20] <Pottu> but now i get another error
[15:20] <CosbySweater> lumia900: do you get an output?
[15:20] <jParkton> Pottu: this really isnt needed
[15:21] <AlexPortable> jParkton: yes
[15:21] <jParkton> Pottu: does this zipped version code it for you or something?
[15:21] <jParkton> AlexPortable: sweet look in there
[15:21] <jParkton> AlexPortable: ls -la
[15:21] <derelinguo> linuxuz3r I think it just needs to be on the same partition refit lives. iirc you can have refit on the EFI partition but it gets dumped on the OS X install by default
[15:21] <AlexPortable> apps/ and then gnome-terminal and mn-applet and %gconf.xml
[15:22] <unlockus> guys who wan free domain .xyz extension
[15:22] <Pottu> jParkton: heh. no but the older version from software center did not work. it crashed
[15:22] <lumia900> CosbySweater no out put when i gave that command (grep 'smb ports' /etc/samba/smb.conf)
[15:22] <unlockus> Go to http://www.onlydomains.com/gtld/generic/.xyz
[15:22] <unlockus> Choose your desire domain name.
[15:22] <unlockus> Create account or login.
[15:22] <unlockus> Complete your order .
[15:22] <unlockus> On the payment page.
[15:22] <unlockus> Enter the promo code:
[15:22] <unopaste> unlockus you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[15:22] <CosbySweater> lumia900: alright, i
[15:22] <linuxuz3r> derelinguo, not grub but boot loader
[15:22] <CosbySweater> I'm at a loss
[15:22] <lumia900> CosbySweater i can see my share folders in my network
[15:22] <CosbySweater> lumia900: check the microsoft link I posted earlier, if that doesn't work then I'm clueless :(
[15:23] <CosbySweater> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc728025(v=ws.10).aspx
[15:23] <lumia900> also tried to rename the share folder name .. that also works perfect
[15:23] <jParkton> Pottu: try sudo apt-get install -f
[15:23] <jParkton> dont use that folder I think you just are missing some dependencies
[15:23] <jParkton> AlexPortable: look in that XML file
[15:24] <AlexPortable> it's empty
[15:24] <lumia900> CosbySweater: without enabling thos it was able to works on my first try ..
[15:24] <derelinguo> linuxuz3r quick google says same as linux install http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple-boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required
[15:24] <lumia900> but dude to openLDAP config i messed and deletec that ubuntu
[15:25] <lumia900> and receated this which not ever let me to open my share folder
[15:25] <sacarlson> lumia900: did you try from windows to connect to samba using your ip address of your ubuntu?
[15:26] <lumia900> sacarlson amd trying to connect samba from my windows PC
[15:26] <alexgl> anyone using samba to create a share for windows 7 or clonezilla fileshare?
[15:26] <Pottu> jParkton: sorry phone rang. so i need the latest version to prevent bluefish from crashing but i think i'll manage. i'll install all the packages needed now and ask for more help if i need. thx for your time :)
[15:26] <lumia900> either via IP and Host name i can view the share folders
[15:27] <sacarlson> lumia900: yes understood that part so you can see it from windows but it disallows?
[15:27] <CosbySweater> lumia900: dumb question, did you create the samba user?
[15:27] <CosbySweater> smbpasswd -a username
[15:28] <lumia900> well i have not make any major changes in all my office windows PC's
[15:28] <lumia900> CosbySweater nope
[15:28] <lumia900> but if some one outside office cant access my share ?
[15:29] <lumia900> The <Guest OK = Yes > stands for any one can access the share file
[15:30] <mgodby> Is there a good reason for network-manager-openconnect having kde dependencies now?
[15:30] <lumia900> eg: am creating a share folder for any once can read files from the server ..
[15:32] <gerhard> habe ein großes Problem: immer wenn ich doppel-s schreibe kommt ß
[15:32] <pbx> !de | gerhard
[15:33] <lumia900> as first level i need to let open access for all to create their folders and files drop
[15:33] <lumia900> so i need a open share location without any authentication from samba or ubuntu
[15:33] <sacarlson> lumia900: back in the day I was able to just right click in nuatilus and say share folder samba and it worked
[15:34] <sacarlson> lumia900: my only chalenge back then was to make a directory that everyone could also write to
[15:34] <lumia900> sacarlson: this i have CLI
[15:35] <xhv> how do add a rwe permissions to a username, i would like a standard acc to have rw permissions on one folder in root's files but i dont want to allow everyone rw
[15:35] <lumia900> more over things i have tried with webmin was also failed to make the communication
[15:36] <groverblue> I might have a systemd issue.
[15:36] <sacarlson> lumia900: ok but if that feature still works could we just create the config file using nautilus right click and copy it to your system or at least analize it to see how it could work for yours
[15:36] <groverblue> btw, here is a post my Mark Shuttleworth talking about the move to systemd: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
[15:36] <frog> hi, i tried to make a live stick dd. know this is was u get when you do ll: http://www.bitbin.it/U8lbYL2b
[15:37] <frog> what did i do wrong?
[15:37] <mgodby> frog: where are you running your ls?
[15:37] <frog> on the stick mgodby
[15:38] <mgodby> frog: After running your dd, you may not be able to read the usb stick normally unless you mount it like you would an iso
[15:38] <mgodby> frog: this has been my experience; it doesn't necessarily mean that the usb stick won't work for booting
[15:38] <frog> mgodby: should i just try booting it?
[15:39] <frog> mgodby: ?
[15:41] <sacarlson> frog that doesn't look good.  I would assume that something went wrong as when I made a boot usb I could still plug it in and view it
[15:41] <sacarlson> frog: I don't recall ever getting dd to work to make a boot disk but that was long ago so I think they design some to be able to do so
[15:42] <jParkton> Pottu: are you good? I stepped away
[15:42] <mgodby> frog: yeah, you could try booting into it if you can spare the time to try
[15:43] <mgodby> sacarlson: I used dd to create boot images with fairly consistent success
[15:43] <sacarlson> mgodby: cool what was the last version that worked with that?
[15:44] <mgodby> sacarlson: I think ubuntu 14.04 worked for me, but I may be thinking of fedora's latest ver. standby; i'll check
[15:44] <jParkton> Pottu: are you just needing a good editor for code?
[15:44] <jParkton> I would go with brackets
[15:44] <Pottu> jParkton: i need a good editor for html/css/php
[15:44] <sacarlson> mgodby: I just got here so make sure he did an md5sum on the iso and maybe check the usb flash to be good
[15:44] <Pottu> brackets.. let me search that one
[15:45] <jParkton> Pottu: download the brackets .deb and I can walk you through it
[15:46] <Pottu> jParkton: ok. googleing it now
[15:46] <jParkton> http://brackets.io I believe Pottu
[15:46] <locate> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS started as Guest Temporary How to solve ?
[15:47] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable a section of my touchpad? When I put my thumb finger on the touchpad (for lmb) and my index finger on the rest of the touchpad, the touchpad thinks it's a 2 finger touch (which means rmb)
[15:47] <Segui> hi
[15:47] <AlexPortable> also I want 4 finger swipe to go to next workspace
[15:48] <jParkton> touchpad Ubuntu is bound to have some glitches it may be a try it and see thing for a bit
[15:48] <Segui> http://gameloot.gift/?invited_by=78477
[15:48] <Pottu> jParkton: installing now
[15:49] <Segui> enter in this page
[15:49] <DJones> Segui: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:49] <Segui> http://gameloot.gift/?invited_by=78477
[15:50] <mgodby> frog: any luck?
[15:50] <frog> know it gets shown properly mgodby
[15:50] <jParkton> locate: does it prompt you to login?
[15:50] <frog> but it wasnt bootable
[15:51] <jParkton> ie a login screen?
[15:51] <mgodby> frog: ok, I'm creating one right now; standby
[15:52] <mgodby> frog: sacarlson may be correct that dd won't work for ubuntu live usb; let me see if I can get it to work with dd
[15:52] <frog> ill try it once more
[15:52] <sacarlson> mgodby: cool good idea, I don't have any usb big enuf
[15:52] <frog> it isnt actually a ubuntu live stick.. its kali-linux
[15:52] <frog> but the os i am trying it with is ubuntu, thats why i think it does belong here
[15:53] <mgodby> frog: ah, ok; that may make a difference
[15:53] <trijntje__> If keyboard input is messed up in both windows and an ubuntu live system, that means its a hardware problem right?
[15:53] <frog> trijntje__: jep
[15:53] <mgodby> frog: sacarle: I just successfully booted into a live usb of ubuntu 14.04 created via dd
[15:53] <mgodby> frog: how did you run your dd command?
[15:53] <locate> jParkton:No, I always start automatically How Temporary Guest , but if I Session End and Start Again I can choose the correct Looks Favorites and Start .
[15:54] <sacarlson> frog: oh only some iso are designed to use dd to boot yours maynot
[15:54] <trijntje__> frog, and how about if windows onscreen keyboard is also messed up? :P
[15:54] <jParkton> locate: you will need to go into the settings as the logged in user not the guest
[15:55] <jParkton> so log out then login as user then go to settings
[15:55] <jParkton> locate: look for the login automagically
[15:56] <mgodby> sacarlson: `sudo dd if=/home/mgodby/iso/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4 && sudo sync` worked great
[15:56] <locate> jParkton:yes, my login automatically starts
[15:57] <sacarlson> mgodby: maybe so but from what I think I understand from frog that he's attempting to dd something other than ubuntu
[15:57] <jParkton> locate read above
[15:57] <mgodby> sacarlson: yes, I was specifically addressing your question about whether or not it works with ubuntu
[15:57] <sacarlson> mgodby: good to know as I would hope all future will be also
[15:58] <LucasTT> hey, i need some help
[15:58] <mgodby> frog: if it's still not working, please provide the exact dd command that you ran (can spoof the directory path if you wish)
[15:58] <frog> still didnt work
[15:58] <LucasTT> yesteryda i added the ppa ubuntu-x-swat/updates, because steam asked to
[15:59] <LucasTT> the next time i rebooted, the computer froze on the boot screen, but when botting from recovery mode, it went fine
[15:59] <frog> but it also could be my pc, because i didnt do any livestick booting till know...
[15:59] <locate> jParkton:right, I went to settings
[15:59] <LucasTT> now my mouse disappears when it's not moving
[15:59] <Guest2836> hi all
[15:59] <sacarlson> mgodby: what is the bs-4 do?
[15:59] <sacarlson> bs=4
[16:00] <locate> jParkton:and deleted the temporary guest user
[16:00] <jParkton> locate: as your actual user not the guest one right?
[16:00] <jParkton> ok cool
[16:00] <mgodby> sacarlson: block-size=4; I don't believe it matters a whole lot what your block size is, though. Arch Linux recommends bs=4M on their wiki
[16:00] <sacarlson> mgodby: I thought bs was block size or the number of bytes to push onto the medea
[16:00] <jParkton> now locate the settings for login
[16:01] <mgodby> sacarlson: yeah, it just changes the write frequency
[16:01] <frog> mgodby: sudo dd if=kali.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=512k
[16:01] <locate> jParkton:right
[16:01] <frog> mgodby: the command
[16:01] <sacarlson> frog oh there's his problem sdb1
[16:01] <AlexPortable> my mouse has a 10px offset
[16:01] <AlexPortable> how to fix?
[16:02] <jParkton> is the login automatically checked?
[16:02] <mgodby> frog: sacarlson is right
[16:02] <gennni55> hi is there support in tagalog?
[16:02] <mgodby> frog: don't write to a partition; write directly to the device
[16:02] <frog> ???
[16:02] <mgodby> frog: sdb1 is a partition; you need to write directly to /dev/sdb
[16:02] <gennni55> hi is there support in tagalog/filipino ?
[16:02] <mgodby> frog: sdb1 will be destroyed in the process
[16:02] <frog> ???
[16:02] <locate> jParkton:yes my automatic login is marked
[16:02] <frog> that means i have to enter which command?
[16:03] <jParkton> ok locate save it all and reboot you should be good
[16:03] <mgodby> run the command like so: `sudo dd if=kali.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=512k && sudo sync`
[16:03] <mgodby> frog: run the command like so: `sudo dd if=kali.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=512k && sudo sync`
[16:04] <somsip> gennni55: you can try #ubuntu-ph
[16:04] <frog> mgodby: thx... im trying that
[16:04] <gennni55> somsip: thank you :)
[16:04] <locate> jParkton:Yeah, I had already done this settings no longer worked
[16:05] <jParkton> so you did this before and still it logs in the guest
[16:05] <mgodby> frog: `&& sudo sync` just requests the system to finish performing all of the writes in the write queue, btw. It's a good way to make sure that the system is 100% finished writing to your usb stick before you remove it.
[16:05] <frog> mgodby: ok
[16:06] <Charbacca> hello
[16:08] <frog> restarting mgodby
[16:08] <jParkton> Charbacca: 0/
[16:08] <mgodby> frog: ok; I'll be waiting
[16:11] <sacarlson> mgodby: lessons learned?  we ask them what command they used to do dd or any other operation before we continue with other ideas
[16:11] <actionParsnip> !away > frog_afk
[16:11] <LucasTT> Anyone?
[16:11] <somsip> LucasTT: did you ask a question? Maybe time to repeat it...
[16:11] <LucasTT> ok
[16:12] <mgodby> sacarlson: yes, I typically ask that particular question, but I also thought that just trying to boot into it first was a quick enough test
[16:12] <LucasTT> yesterday i added the ppa ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates, because steam asked to
[16:12] <LucasTT>  the next time i rebooted, the computer froze on the boot screen, but when botting from recovery mode, it went fine
[16:12] <LucasTT> now my mouse disappears when it's not moving
[16:12] <mgodby> sacarlson: it would have saved some time to ask that question first, though; you are right
[16:13] <frog> it worked... thanks mgodby
[16:13] <mgodby> frog: no problem
[16:13] <frog> and sc.... sr that i forgot youre name
[16:13] <mgodby> :frog sacarlson
[16:13] <frog> thx
[16:13] <sacarlson> mgodby: frog good work
[16:13] <Paradise> [QUESTION] My ubuntu is connected to a Sony TV for output. Every time I watch normal TV, turn off the TV at night, and then select output to the ubuntu machine the other day, there is nothing shown although machine is running (seems like no  video  signal after sleep) and cannot wake the TV up. Is there any solution? Thanks.
[16:15] <sacarlson> Paradise for me it's move the mouse and the tv turns back on
[16:15] <Paradise> no, does not
[16:16] <LucasTT> somsip, do you know how to fix it?
[16:17] <Paradise> it seems there is not signal to tv. It is running as I cannot play music with mpd. btw, i am using 12.04.
[16:18] <somsip> LucasTT: No. I read enough about the potential problems of using x-swat PPA to discourage me from going near it
[16:18] <daftykins> Paradise: can you repeat this instantly by turning off the TV and trying to turn it back on?
[16:18] <actionParsnip> Paradise: what make and model is the ubuntu system?
[16:18] <LucasTT> :(
[16:18] <LucasTT> why does steam recommend it
[16:18] <peyam> Hi, is it recommended to upgrade kernel to the latest in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:19] <somsip> LucasTT: I believe it's required for steam, or the required version of the drivers is higher than that in the official repos. But I don't have it installed. You do. You should know...
[16:19] <l0rdn1x> peyam: is your system working?
[16:19] <actionParsnip> peyam: yes, your normal upgrades will do this for you
[16:19] <Paradise> ok, but let me reboot to get my display back on first
[16:19] <LucasTT> somsip, it's not required, it just recommends
[16:20] <LucasTT> damn i don't want to reinstall the system
[16:20] <somsip> LucasTT: that shows what I know. BEst if I leave it to someone who knows about steam to answer your questions
[16:20] <LucasTT> ok, thanks
[16:20] <peyam> l0rdn1x, yes but the fact that everything is working doesnt mean you shouldnt upgrade. actionParsnip : so I should wait for the automatic updates instead?
[16:21] <l0rdn1x> peyam: leave the kernel alone, until it asks you to update it.
[16:21] <peyam> great.
[16:22] <actionParsnip> peyam: the updates will install the latest kernel for your release
[16:22] <actionParsnip> peterrus: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:22] <Dartellum> I understand a new install is better than the upgrade path. Every weekend I am home I have the popup to upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04. I do not want to spend my weekend home from traveling on an upgrade that goes wrong (I have three desktops and 1 server to upgrade).
[16:24] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: you dont have to upgrade either
[16:24] <Dartellum> well, I should because some of the games I run now work on 14.04 with the latest wine
[16:25] <Paradise> When I turn the tv off and turn it back on, I can see the mouse cursor but I cannot move it. It is like freezed. I am using the studio version. I installed the normal version before and there was no such problem.
[16:25] <Dartellum> I complied the latest wine but the game is still broke on 12.04.
[16:25] <Dartellum> So, I probably need to upgrade at some point - my one son wants to play the game again :)
[16:26] <daftykins> Paradise: do you have another computer that you can SSH into that one from?
[16:27] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: you can tell the updater not to automatically look for new releases
[16:27] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: Precise has 3 years support left dude, I'd sit on Precise if its working
[16:28] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: there is a PPA for Wine, no need to compile. Did you check the Wine AppDb for compiatibilty?
[16:28] <Paradise> yes, i have. what should i do?
[16:28] <actionParsnip> Paradise: do for what?
[16:28] <Dartellum> actionParsnip, the PPA is now only for 14.04
[16:28] <actionParsnip> Paradise: your question needs a context
[16:29] <Paradise> do you mean ssh to ubuntu to try something?
[16:29] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=precise
[16:30] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: where do you get "only for 14.04" from?
[16:30] <Dartellum> actionParsnip, I maintain a few appdb entries and probably should update one computer to keep up on the appdb entries I maintain, especially if one is not working now.
[16:30] <Dartellum> I do sud apt-get update
[16:30] <Dartellum> I do sud apt-get wine1.7
[16:30] <decci> . $MW_HOME/wlserver/server/bin/setWLSEnv.sh
[16:30] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: but the PPA still supports Precise
[16:30] <Dartellum> and latest is installed
[16:30] <decci> What is the equivalent command to the above
[16:30] <LucasTT> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/164631/computer-wont-restart-without-recovery-mode-and-mouse-is-flickering-after-i-add
[16:30] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: the packages were successfully built 3 weeks ago, pretty active, no?
[16:31] <actionParsnip> decci: you need to find what $MW_HOME is set to
[16:31] <Dartellum> https://www.winehq.org/download  -  Download Ubuntu packages - binary and source .debs for Ubuntu Trusty (14.04 LTS)
[16:32] <decci> actionParsnip: Actually I have a script http://paste.ubuntu.com/8721207/
[16:32] <decci> actionParsnip: I want to know what does . doing in that script
[16:33] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine   look at the leader of the PPA team building packages for the PPA I initially linked....
[16:33] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: then look at the name on the right of the Ubuntu link you posted....
[16:33] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: that _isn't_ a coincidence
[16:34] <decci> actionParsnip: ?
[16:34] <Dartellum> actionParsnip, the link you provided is not on the WineHQ site. I will check it out when I return home Saturday.
[16:35] <actionParsnip> decci: both are amanged by Scott Ritchie
[16:35] <actionParsnip> Dartellum: ^
[16:35] <decci> actionParsnip: :(
[16:35] <actionParsnip> decci: no, thats good
[16:36] <decci> actionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8721207/
[16:36] <decci> actionParsnip: I want to know what does . mean in that line
[16:36] <decci> actionParsnip: . $MW_HOME/wlserver/server/bin/setWLSEnv.sh
[16:36] <actionParsnip> decci: what is the output of:    echo $MW_HOME
[16:37] <decci> actionParsnip:  echo $MW_HOME /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3
[16:37] <actionParsnip> decci: then it's /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/server/bin/
[16:38] <actionParsnip> decci: after expansion
[16:40] <Dartellum> actionParsnip, Thanks for the URL!
[16:40] <hmmp> i have intel HD Graphics 4600 and i ran intel graphics installer for linux but im experiencing tearing in videos
[16:41] <decci> actionParsnip:  Do you mean the command is /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/server/bin/ $MW_HOME/wlserver/server/bin/setWLSEnv.sh
[16:41] <decci> actionParsnip: Sorry
[16:41] <decci> actionParsnip: /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/server/bin/     /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/server/bin/
[16:41] <actionParsnip> decci: pretty much
[16:42] <decci> actionParsnip: so you mean I can go ahead and write it this way
[16:43] <decci> actionParsnip: But when I ran /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/server/bin/  $MW_HOME/wlserver/server/bin/setWLSEnv.sh -bash: /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/server/bin/: Is a directory
[16:43] <skyfall> how to install compiz on ubuntu ?
[16:44] <skyfall> anybody >
[16:44] <skyfall> ?
[16:44] <sacarlson> skyfall: isn't it preinstalled by default?
[16:44] <decci> actionParsnip: I think thats not the correct command
[16:44] <skyfall> no. im using ubuntu 14.10 LTS
[16:45] <sacarlson> skyfall: skyfall then it should be seen in synaptic if not already installed
[16:46] <actionParsnip> skyfall: if you are using Unity, you are using Compiz
[16:46] <Atlantis> ! <D Milk please! I want to make icecream cones! <D !
[16:46] <Atlantis> ubottu: never said you were
[16:47] <Atlantis> wtf
[16:47] <Pici> Atlantis: Please stop.
[16:47] <sacarlson> skyfall: unless your running the server edition or maybe xbuntu or lubuntu
[16:47] <Fartbot> Aha
[16:48] <skyfall> ok
[16:53] <cjz> how do you get /usr/lib/jvm/default-java updated?
[16:53] <decci> actionParsnip: I still didnt get with it
[16:53] <cjz> google seems obsessed with update-alternatives —config java
[16:53] <cjz> but that doesn't seem to affect default-java
[16:53] <actionParsnip> skua: if you run:   apt-cache policy compiz | grep -i installed      what is output?
[16:54] <decci> actionParsnip: still didnt get this done
[16:54] <actionParsnip> cjz: there is the WebUpd8 PPA for Oracle Java if that is what you are after
[16:54] <cjz> actionParsnip:  well 7 would be fine
[16:54] <cjz> which i have
[16:54] <decci> actionParsnip:  I am referring this link : 4th step http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/wls1033-dev-readme-131493.txt
[16:54] <cjz> should i just re link it myself?
[16:55] <alexgl> guys what are your experiences with ubuntu server 14.04 lts? is it pleasant? I seem to find all kinds off howtos and forum threads for earlier versions. I mean is 14.04 lts not used much yet?
[16:55] <decci> actionParsnip: 4. Setup WLS environment in the current shell.      Linux     $ . $MW_HOME/wlserver/server/bin/setWLSEnv.sh
[16:55] <decci> actionParsnip: So what is the other way to write this
[16:56] <actionParsnip> decci: no idea, maybe try another guide
[16:56] <JuiceSSH> decci: You can use 'source' instead of '.'
[16:56] <Pici> alexgl: Well, 14.04 was released this year.  12.04 has had two years for howtos to be written.
[16:56] <decci> JuiceSSH: Ohk
[16:56] <JuiceSSH> But they both do the same thing
[16:56] <Pici> alexgl: I'm using it just fine on a bunch of servers here.
[16:58] <JuiceSSH> decci: http://ss64.com/bash/source.html
[16:58] <alexgl> ok that makes sense, I haven't used linux for a few years, so I just grabbed the latest version :P
[17:00] <tidux> does 14.10 support the Winbook TW801 touchscreen driver?
[17:00] <tidux> I know 14.04 doesn't
[17:01] <Tyrent> Sup
[17:01] <sacarlson> alexgl: I'm very happy with 14.04lts so far.  no major problems so far for me
[17:02] <alexgl> sacarlson Pici what shell do you guys use if any? My particular use case is inside of a vm, so I have the unity desktop setup for it
[17:02] <Pici> alexgl: I don't use any desktop environments on my servers.
[17:03] <sacarlson> alexgl: oh I use mate, I never liked unity
[17:03] <tidux> bash on Linux, /bin/ksh on BSD
[17:04] <sacarlson> alexgl: mate is more like ubuntu 10.X or windows XP
[17:04] <alexgl> sacarlson: mate is gnome 2 right, any different from gnome-flashback-session
[17:05] <sacarlson> alexgl: well it's gnome something... I don't know anything about gnome-flashback-session
[17:05] <tidux> MATE is the old GNOME 2 codebase, modernized a bit
[17:06] <tidux> like they've moved to gsettings and they're working on a port to gtk3
[17:06] <tidux> which would allow Wayland in the future if they write a Wayland compositor
[17:06] <jParkton> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:09] <dym> Hey! Im running a dhcp server that should provide static and dynamic ip leases to hosts. I have defined a host for one of my ip cams, but it doesnt seem to get the address it's supposed to. can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/yNuhgBKY Im on a 255.255.0.0 but somehow dhcpd wont let me define a broader subnet (10.1.0.0 255.255.0.0) http://pastebin.com/yNuhgBKY
[17:17] <hmmp> hmm i have tearing in gnome2 (metacity) but not in unity. any ideas?
[17:19] <allyourcodebase> alexgl: gnome_flashback_session is a GNOME project effort, while MATE is a fork.
[17:20] <allyourcodebase> https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/GnomeFlashback
[17:20] <alexgl> allyourcodebase: thanks
[17:21] <allyourcodebase> I'm currently using gnome-flashback-session and it's been a smooth experience for me so far.
[17:21] <alexgl> allyourcodebase: whats the command to change the theme so that the window buttons are on the right side of the window in gnome-flashback metacity only
[17:21] <Dartellum> dym, you could try to add option host-name "drivewaycam1"; under your fixed-address line. Other than that, I do not see anything glaring at me.
[17:22] <imbezol> dym: try moving your host definition outside of the subnet definition
[17:23] <allyourcodebase> alexgl: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'
[17:23] <alexgl> allyourcodebase: wasn't there a gui under appearances?
[17:24] <allyourcodebase> It's not available by default.
[17:24] <vastkahuna> I think I may have broken or missing packages in ubutu, how do I check and fix?
[17:24] <allyourcodebase> I think there are GUI tools that tweak these things, but I personally prefer the terminal and gsettings.
[17:25] <jack> vastkahuna, sudo apt-get -f install
[17:26] <OerHeks> !rootirc
[17:27] <Guest21227> \help
[17:27] <Guest21227> oops
[17:28] <vastkahuna> This is what I gothttp://pastebin.com/f0K8kfKB
[17:30] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/f0K8kfKB
[17:30] <vastkahuna> Anything else I should try?
[17:30] <OerHeks> vastkahuna, so what made you think you had broken packages?
[17:32] <onla2> Hey. new to unity. When I click an icon on the left menu for example the system settings icon. If I have it already running under my firefox window, it won't pop up on top and it does nothing. How can I change this?
[17:32] <vastkahuna> Two things, one I can't play cd's, and second I just updated ubuntu to 14.10 and it said some things were not installed
[17:33] <vastkahuna> And just now the software updater said it failed to get repoitory
[17:34] <onla2> hmm that system settings button on the left menu is bugged somehow. I just made a clean ubuntu 14.04.1 install.
[17:34] <AlexPortable> who nickmentioned me?
[17:37] <onla2> whow can I remove the menu bar from secondary monitor?
[17:38] <vastkahuna> Any ideas what I should do?
[17:39] <niee> hi folks. anyone to help me please? i want to share my WLAN internet whit Wi-fi antenna
[17:39] <Bashing-om> vastkahuna: For confidence in the upgrade completeion do terminal commands -> sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg --configure -a . See then what the state of the system is in.
[17:39] <daftykins> vastkahuna: first up, the repos - can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update" ?
[17:39] <OerHeks> I don't know, without info about what repository failed and such ... is that repository to do with not playing cdś ?
[17:40] <OerHeks> niee, networkmanager can make an ad-hoc network, no?
[17:40] <DJones> onla2: If your using default ubuntu unity, Settings, Screen display, and there is an option to only have the Unity launcher on a specific display or all displays (I'm assuming thats what your mean)
[17:40] <vastkahuna> So first do sudo apt-get update and show you the results?
[17:41] <niee> tnx OerHeks. i dont know. give me more info plss.
[17:43] <daftykins> vastkahuna: yes. how was that not clear?
[17:43] <OerHeks> !ics
[17:44] <vastkahuna> Try and have patience with me I'm new and will need a lot of help probably
[17:44] <niee> OerHeks: i find the program. i have a install this program, but i dont view how to create a new wi=fi network, and share my internet
[17:44] <l0rdn1x> I need some good voice recognition software anyone got any suggestions....?
[17:44] <OerHeks> niee, see that ics page, WEP encryption only
[17:44] <niee> oks not problem to WEP
[17:45] <onla2> DJones: I don't mean the unity launcher. I mean the menu bar that goes along the top of the screen on default ubuntu. My 2nd monitor is plasma, and I don't want any static bars there to burn the old plasma screen
[17:45] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/FBCP1HHt
[17:45] <onla2> my google is not working too well, so I can't google how to remove that top menu bar on 2nd monitor
[17:46] <DJones> onla2: Ah, in that case I don't know, its not something I've tried
[17:46] <onla2> google working normally for you all?
[17:46] <daftykins> vastkahuna: ok so you appear to have two PPAs added which could do with being removed
[17:47] <vastkahuna> OK so tell me what to do
[17:47] <daftykins> vastkahuna: pastebin this command "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[17:49] <OerHeks> vastkahuna, yannubuntu/boot-repair has no utopic candidates, that one you can remove.
[17:49] <OerHeks> rest seems fine
[17:49] <daftykins> OerHeks: the launchpad is 404'ing
[17:50] <daftykins> oh that was probably the same thing wasn't it
[17:50] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/ss2pYSsx
[17:50] <daftykins> vastkahuna: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-ubuntu-boot-repair-utopic.list ~/
[17:51] <daftykins> vastkahuna: after the above, please re-run "sudo apt-get update" and re-share a pastebin
[17:51] <SonikkuAmerica> vastkahuna: There are no utopic or trusty packages in that PPA, you'd have to pull from Saucy
[17:51] <vastkahuna> This will remove what I don't need or what's causing my trouble?
[17:52] <daftykins> vastkahuna: both
[17:55] <vastkahuna> I did that first one and got this http://pastebin.com/nCtmart6
[17:56] <daftykins> ok that's wierd.
[17:56] <daftykins> vastkahuna: when you type the path /etc/... try using tab complete
[17:58] <vastkahuna> It gave me the same result
[17:59] <OerHeks> vast why not remove that ppa in softwarecenter> sources?
[17:59] <OerHeks> anyway, ppa-purge is more usefull here
[18:00] <daftykins> vastkahuna: right but once you got to "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/" did you type "y" and hit tab? did it autocomplete?
[18:02] <ponyofdeath> is there a easy way to install the ubuntu versions instead of the higher ppa ones i currently have installed?
[18:03] <vastkahuna> Yes
[18:04] <daftykins> vastkahuna: yeah that just seems weird. try OerHeks's advice
[18:04] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | pony
[18:05] <vastkahuna> And what was that? I missed it
[18:05] <daftykins> vastkahuna: scroll up...
[18:05] <Bashing-om> ponyofdeath: ^^, sorry for the no-highlight - see the above.
[18:06] <vastkahuna> Try to remove that particular ppa? If so I need more help
[18:06] <onla2> fuck this I gotta install classic ubuntu menu because I can't hide secondary monitors top menu bar :o
[18:07] <daftykins> onla2: keep the language family friendly please
[18:08] <vastkahuna> I don't know how to identify what needs to be removed
[18:08] <NegativeFlare> vastkahuna: Software Sources
[18:08] <daftykins> vastkahuna: it's the ppa.launchpad.net yannubuntu thing i was trying to get you to move, you can see the things in your own pastebins that were erroring right?
[18:09] <daftykins> that's what needs to go
[18:10] <vastkahuna> I just know what I can't do with ubuntu right now but I don't know or understand the technical stuff or understand what my terminal results are telling me
[18:11] <genii> !ppapurge | vastkahuna
[18:12] <Bashing-om> vastkahuna: The package manager is attempting to access a source that does not exist. Remove the 'fetch' from the sources.list file - as others have advised.
[18:13] <vastkahuna> So when I do that command I have to give the repository-name and subdirectory? If So I don't know that
[18:14] <home> hi all
[18:14] <home> I got trouble installing canon LBP 3050 on ubuntu 14.04 64bit OS
[18:14] <OerHeks> vastkahuna, open softwarecenter> sources, find that ppa, remove it...
[18:15] <linocisco> I got trouble installing canon LBP 3050 on ubuntu 14.04 64bit OS
[18:15] <linocisco> I followed as per help.ubuntu.com
[18:15] <linocisco> but printer is not detected
[18:15] <eflynn> how do i get rsyslog to log to /dev/console? I think it doesn’t have permission
[18:16] <linocisco> I got trouble installing canon LBP 3050 on ubuntu 14.04 64bit OS
[18:17] <vastkahuna> OK this is what I tried and my result http://pastebin.com/XsCgXW27
[18:18] <linocisco> I got trouble installing canon LBP 3050 on ubuntu 14.04 64bit OS . printer is NOT detected
[18:19] <joevandyk> how can i build/install this backport? https://github.com/Shopify/prlimit need prlimit command on 14.04
[18:19] <dalekusa> a bit of a quick question about 3rd-party repositories with an upgrade
[18:20] <daftykins> dalekusa: they should be removed prior
[18:20] <dalekusa> I have several trusty-specific repositories for programs like java and VLC, and Steam's repository is that of Precise.
[18:20] <dalekusa> ok
[18:21] <Bashing-om> vastkahuna: I hope NOT to confuse the issue in your mind even more so please read ->http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html <- to understand what you are doing.
[18:21] <dalekusa> could I export some sort of list of all my repos?
[18:23] <vastkahuna> OK but my problem is if I have to name the ppa or whatever I need to remove as part of that command, I don't know that
[18:24] <avocado> is there a metapackage for ubuntu similar to @development-tools on fedora?
[18:24] <avocado> is that build-essential?
[18:24] <daftykins> build-essential is for compilation yes
[18:25] <daftykins> vastkahuna: click the settings cog on the left dock, go to software sources, find a tickbox beside the PPA named and disable it
[18:25] <dalekusa> daftykins
[18:26] <daftykins> dalekusa:
[18:26] <dalekusa> could I export some sort of list of all my repos?
[18:26] <Goldwing> this is soooo anoying.. brand new install of Ubuntu 14.10 x64 desktop, mouse not working (does work in the live enviroment) and Ethernet not working (does work in live enviroment)
[18:26] <daftykins> dalekusa: do it whichever way you want to
[18:27] <dalekusa> how?
[18:28] <vastkahuna> So I'm in there but I still don't know the name of whatever I need to remove, help please
[18:31] <bynarie> whats wrong vastkahuna
[18:31] <daftykins> vastkahuna: share a screenshot then
[18:31] <bynarie> Goldwing, did u ever get your mouse fixed?
[18:32] <daftykins> vastkahuna: switch to the "Other software" tab and look for the launchpad y... thing? can you see it?
[18:32] <genii> vastkahuna: sudo ppa-purge ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair       I think is what you want. Might have to first do however is copy the file back from ~/ to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   however.
[18:33] <freetos00> does anybody know how come i cannot install ubuntu's version of the mate desktop?  i forgot to do an apt-get update and upgrade before i attempted to install it, but i did it afterwards and it still doesn't work
[18:33] <vastkahuna> So how do find the name of the ppa which needs to be removed? It was said earlier there are two of them
[18:33] <daftykins> genii: ^5
[18:34] <studentttu> hello. Im trying to install Ubuntu next to my windows system. I have an SSD drive where the installation is. However, ubuntu is unable to detect any OS wtf? and wants to erase all in order to install ubuntu
[18:34] <daftykins> vastkahuna: genii just told you.
[18:34] <genii> vastkahuna: I just answered that
[18:34] <bynarie> studentttu, you need to select manual partitioning during install
[18:34] <studentttu> bynarie: okay, and then what?
[18:35] <bynarie> studentttu, first of all do you have an empty partition for linux?
[18:36] <bynarie> i have same setup as you..i have win8 on my reg hd and linux on ssd
[18:36] <studentttu> bynarie:  unfortunately no. I only have one disk
[18:36] <studentttu> bynarie: it recognizes that 172gigs used out of 512 though
[18:36] <bynarie> studentttu, ok you need to probably resize your main partition to make a new partition
[18:38] <bynarie> studentttu, when you resize your main partition, of type NTFS probably, you will be left with "freespace". Use that freespace to make a new partiton of type EXT4 at mountpoint /
[18:38] <studentttu> bynarie:  so should I edit partition, make parition lower say 400gigs? use as NTFS ? mount point windows?
[18:38] <adac> with 14:04 and the noveau driver the colors ar distorted in firefox. I have strange violet colors for blue for example
[18:38] <bynarie> keep the main partition the same type just resize it
[18:39] <bynarie> then take the freespace and create your ext4 part
[18:39] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay
[18:39] <bynarie> possibly depending on how much ram you have you might need a swap part too
[18:40] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay so, i have freespcae 112gigs now, type of partition? location of the npartition? and mount point is / ?
[18:41] <OerHeks> let ubuntu handle partitions in that free space :-)
[18:41] <studentttu> bynarie: type of new partition is automatically selceted as logical, other option is primary
[18:41] <studentttu> location of partition can be chose either beginning of space or end so which one
[18:41] <bynarie> take that freespace and make one "ext4 / 110gb" and another "swap 2gb"
[18:41] <OerHeks> or take a read first https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[18:41] <bynarie> leave it at whatever is already selected
[18:41] <bynarie> beginning of space
[18:42] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay, is 2 gigs enough for swap? i have 10gig ram
[18:42] <treehug88> there is no globally correct answer to that questsion, studentttu
[18:42] <bynarie> yea.. you prolly dont even need the swap
[18:42] <bynarie> but just to be sure
[18:43] <OerHeks> you need swap if you want to hybernate
[18:43] <studentttu> bynarie:  should mount point for ext4 be / ?
[18:43] <bynarie> yes
[18:43] <studentttu> okay
[18:43] <genii> studentttu: The usual is to have as much swap as you have ram
[18:44] <bynarie> i have never used hibernate so iwouldnt know
[18:44] <bynarie> i highly doubt you will need 10gb of swap
[18:44] <OerHeks> genii,  sometimes or often a little more
[18:44] <bynarie> unless your doing some hardcore production work
[18:45] <Avic> I installed the freenx successfully in ubuntu 14.4. but can't acces to it from my windows using the nomachine software...this is getting very difficult to do... anyone uses this that can help please.
[18:45] <jParkton> and in hardcore 10G is not nearly enough
[18:45] <jParkton> ;)
[18:45] <bynarie> no its not lol
[18:46] <bynarie> not even close
[18:46] <vastkahuna> From what I was told earlier I have two ppa which need to be removed, but I need to name them first and I don't have that. How do I find andwhat to do next?
[18:46] <potterapple4269> Guys any idea why after installing ubuntu windows takes 5-7 minutes to boot up? It gets stuck at a black screen
[18:46] <neldogz> Hi all, I have noticed intermittent issues mounting my partitions specified in the /etc/fstab file during bootup on a Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS system. It first started with issues mounting the encrypted swap which i replaced with an unencrypted swap partition and now bootup is complaining about an NTFS partition. The error is "The disk drive for /media/user1/partition1 is not ready or not present: Continue to wait, or press S to skip mounting o
[18:46] <neldogz> r M for manual recovery.
[18:46] <genii> bynarie: The contents of ram get copied to swap space when you hibernate, then copied back to ram when it wakes up again. So same or a bit more of swap as you have ram has nothing to do with how hard you are pushing the machine or how much ram you use for number crunching, it's just to make hibernate work properly.
[18:46] <studentttu> genii:  OerHeks  :SSS so I started install with 2 gig swap, does it mean im fuked
[18:47] <bynarie> thats cool... like i said i dont ever use hibernate so i wouldnt know that
[18:48] <vastkahuna> Help please?
[18:48] <OerHeks> vastkahuna, ppa:ehoover/compholio and ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair  ??
[18:48] <studentttu> bynarie:  yeah okay
[18:48] <daftykins> vastkahuna: you have been told what to run - THREE times
[18:48] <bynarie> studentttu, you are fine
[18:48] <neldogz> This is my fstab: /dev/dm-1 /media/user1/partition1 ntfs defaults 0 0
[18:48] <ahmed> hi
[18:48] <studentttu> bynarie:  ty for your help
[18:48] <OerHeks> vastkahuna, i don't understand, you are in sources and do not see those ppa's?
[18:48] <bynarie> unless like they said you are using hibernate
[18:48] <studentttu> ill avoid using it heh
[18:48] <Avic> nxserver: NXSERVER - Version 3.2.0-74-SVN OS (GPL, using backend: 3.5.0) Can be the software version in windows problem? (client)
[18:49] <vastkahuna> No I don't understand this stuff
[18:49] <studentttu> bynarie:  would ubuntu crash if i hibernate with ram full and there wouldnt be enough swap
[18:49] <bynarie> no problem studentttu
[18:49] <studentttu> ?
[18:49] <bynarie> genii, ^
[18:49] <OerHeks> studentttu, it gives errors yes
[18:49] <studentttu> ok
[18:49] <bynarie> you can still resize if you havent installed yet
[18:50] <OerHeks> studentttu, that is why i said: let ubuntu partition the free space
[18:50] <Bashing-om> vastkahuna: A number of people are trying to help, and the issue is getting confused . Keep it simple. Did you do " sudo ppa-purge ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair " in terminal ?
[18:50] <bynarie> or modify
[18:50] <vastkahuna> Yes
[18:50] <genii> studentttu: As bynarie says, you still have time to resize, which is what I recommend
[18:50] <bynarie> i agree
[18:51] <studentttu> genii:  im installing already, do you recommend i force shut down and restart install? :o
[18:51] <bynarie> vastkahuna, did you goto your software sources to visually see it?
[18:51] <bynarie> studentttu, no.. i believe you can still resize once its up and running with gparted
[18:51] <genii> studentttu: No. In this case, let it install. You can figure out how to sort out the swap after
[18:51] <studentttu> okay
[18:51] <Guest65857> Hello i was just wondering if 1 made a program that compressed the whole EXT4 Hard Drive would it be able to do it?
[18:52] <bynarie> lol
[18:52] <treehug88> that makes no sense. If you did it, it would be able to be done
[18:52] <potterapple4269> (potterapple4269) Guys any idea why after installing ubuntu windows takes 5-7 minutes to boot up? It gets stuck at a black screen
[18:52] <vastkahuna> http://pastebin.com/qU93TkfK
[18:52] <bynarie> yea what are you talking about
[18:52] <mrvadon> hello everyone
[18:52] <vastkahuna> That's what it told me
[18:52] <mrvadon> this is a test
[18:52] <potterapple4269> Me?
[18:53] <treehug88> you passed
[18:53] <genii> Bashing-om: However, I think vastkahuna previously did something like sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-ubuntu-boot-repair-utopic.list ~/   ...so they likely need to reverse that before doing the ppa-purge
[18:53] <daftykins> genii: nah that failed
[18:53] <potterapple4269> (potterapple4269) Guys any idea why after installing ubuntu windows takes 5-7 minutes to boot up? It gets stuck at a black screen please?
[18:54] <daftykins> genii: as per - http://pastebin.com/nCtmart6
[18:54] <genii> daftykins: Ah, OK
[18:54] <treehug88> potterapple4269: asking repeatedly probably won't help
[18:54] <vastkahuna> If so, then how do I reverse things?
[18:54] <potterapple4269> Yeah :/ sorry
[18:54] <treehug88> potterapple4269: after botup, examine the windows logs (hahahahah_
[18:54] <treehug88> )
[18:54] <treehug88> i'd guess it's waiting on some device
[18:54] <potterapple4269> Treehug88 i can't find this loss anywhere!!
[18:55] <Avic> i did it :-) thanks
[18:55] <bynarie> hey potterapple4269 , ditch windows and stick with linux =]
[18:55] <genii> vastkahuna: Please pastebin the result of:   ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*   and also of: ls ~/*.list
[18:56] <potterapple4269> Bynarie i can't do that university has a strict rule :/ can't remove windows plus i play on windows
[18:56] <bynarie> potterapple4269, i was just kidding anyway
[18:56] <Blizzy> anyone know the best way to emulate Ubuntu on Windows WITHOUT Dual-Booting? I want to learn Bash.
[18:56] <treehug88> potterapple4269: you mean you can't find the windows logs?
[18:56] <potterapple4269> :P
[18:56] <potterapple4269> Yeah!!
[18:56] <treehug88> Blizzy: use a vm
[18:56] <potterapple4269> There is just one log of a scannow comand i did
[18:57] <treehug88> virtualbox for example, Blizzy
[18:57] <daftykins> Blizzy: another vote for virtualbox here
[18:57] <Obiwantje> and another one
[18:57] <Blizzy> lul.
[18:57] <Obiwantje> there a prebuilt images
[18:57] <Blizzy> well, VB it is.
[18:57] <treehug88> (I'm being very terse. Virtualbox allows you to install linux in a vm)
[18:57] <Blizzy> good. as I play Steam games. So I don't want to keep rebooting to either code or play Steam games.
[18:58] <treehug88> yeah dual boot is the worst
[18:58] <potterapple4269> Does vb take up a lot of ram?
[18:58] <rberg> if all you want is bash Cygwin might be a good way to go..
[18:58] <treehug88> rberg: yeah BUT
[18:58] <bynarie> Blizzy, i use virtualbox all the time
[18:58] <bynarie> virtualbox is deff the way to go
[18:58] <treehug88> it's not just bash he'll be learning, and bash on windows is the worst (he'll also prolly wanna learn about unix utilities)
[18:59] <treehug88> But yeah, cygwin is an option
[18:59] <vastkahuna> Pastebin said I've reached my limit
[18:59] <bynarie> but.. from my experience cygwin is not nearly as fast as running bash on linux.. obviously lol
[18:59] <Blizzy> yeah, I want to be a Full Stack Dev, so learning Bash is a must.
[18:59] <Blizzy> also it allows me to get used to Linux.
[19:00] <Blizzy> now, is there a way to make it act like a VPS, where I can only use the console?
[19:00] <genii> vastkahuna: Use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ instead then
[19:00] <bynarie> blizzy yes
[19:00] <Blizzy> how?
[19:00] <bynarie> install sshd
[19:01] <bynarie> also, virtualbox provides a way to use remote desktop right away with desktop sharing
[19:01] <genii> Blizzy: In this case, the package is named openssh-server
[19:01] <daftykins> vastkahuna: paste.ubuntu.com
[19:01] <bynarie> Blizzy, yes sorry
[19:01] <vastkahuna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8722913/
[19:03] <Guest39303> hello, in ubuntu 14.04 how do i see the usbs i have connected to my computer with my graphics not ith terminal
[19:04] <bynarie> Guest39303, gparted
[19:04] <bynarie> ?
[19:04] <bynarie> lsusb
[19:04] <XRayID> SUP M8S
[19:04] <darkangel_> It should pop up on the task bar on left side if u have something connected like a Memory stick for example
[19:05] <pbx> Guest39303, System Information
[19:05] <Guest39303> bynarie: i want to eb able to click and see somehwere i am w to ubuntu i do not wat to use the terminal where do i click to see the usbs i have connected in buntu 14.04
[19:05] <bynarie> file manager
[19:05] <Guest39303> darkangel_: it did not pop up i have my phone connected, and i want to safely eject it
[19:06] <jhonny> Hey people, I'm looking for a irc channel about front end develpper
[19:06] <jhonny> My name is Jhonny, I'm from Brazil
[19:06] <pbx> Guest39303, pardon me, bynarie is right.  if file manager is not showing the device, it's unlikely that anything is using its filesystem
[19:06] <Guest39303> bynarie: file manager does not show it
[19:06] <vastkahuna> So what do you think?
[19:06] <OerHeks> !alis | jhonny
[19:06] <bynarie> then it prolly isnt being used
[19:06] <XRayID> all devs work on the backhends
[19:07] <Guest39303> pbx: it does not show in the file manager
[19:07] <genii> vastkahuna: sudo mv /home/john/yannubuntu-ubuntu-boot-repair-utopic.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  ...and then run that ppa-purge command again.
[19:07] <genii> work, afk
[19:07] <Guest39303> bynarie: itis being used because i can see my phone chargeing, where do i click to eject it, is there an ubuntu equellent to the windows, "this computer"
[19:08] <genii> daftykins: He will also need the ppa names for ppa-purge of the other ppa in there, maybe you can help, i have to go work for 15-20 minutes
[19:08] <bynarie> Guest39303, the equivalent is File Manager, or dolphin, whatever file manager you use.. im telling you
[19:08] <pbx> Guest39303, right. so it's only charging, and stopping charging does not require any special gentle treatment.
[19:08] <bynarie> just like pbx said
[19:08] <daftykins> genii: sadly i too am chore-laden!
[19:09] <Avic> well i didn't actually...
[19:09] <Guest39303> pbx: but i want to eject it just incase dont want to damage it, how do i eject where do i click
[19:09] <darkangel_> Guest39303: this should help right click and "Open Browser" apt://gnome-phone-manager
[19:09] <Guest39303> darkangel_: what browser?
[19:09] <Guest39303> darkangel_: right click on what xactlly
[19:09] <bynarie> Guest39303, your phone is only gonna show up in the device list IF its mounted as a media device, aka MTP
[19:09] <melio>  I'm running 14.04 should i upgrade to 14.10 using apt-get
[19:10] <bynarie> Just because its charging doesnt mean its sd card is mounted
[19:10] <darkangel_> well open Ubuntu software Center and search Phone and ull find a Phone Manager program
[19:10] <melio> or should i wipe and reinstall. i don't have much on this box except a very nice icon for mincraft i found and i don't want to repalce
[19:10] <Guest39303> bynarie: what you wrote is ure chinese, how do i see what devices are connected and how do i eject my phone
[19:10] <Guest39303> pure chinese
[19:10] <Nao> Bonsoir
[19:11] <bynarie> Guest39303, you phone is probably only charging... thats it... you dont need to EJECT a charging device
[19:11] <XRayID> hooligan
[19:11] <leonic12> http://draalin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/draalin-how-to-install-ubuntu-desktop-13-04-raring-ringtail-12.png
[19:11] <bynarie> its not going to show up if its only charging
[19:11] <Guest39303> bynarie: yo say so, but i want to be certain, there must be an eject option somewhere
[19:11] <bynarie> no!
[19:11] <bynarie> not for a charging only device
[19:12] <Guest39303> bynarie: is there no way of seeing connected devices?
[19:12] <vastkahuna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8723012/
[19:12] <vastkahuna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8723012/
[19:12] <bynarie> ok think of it this way... if you plug your phone in the wall... do you have to press an eject button? NO. you just unplug it.. same idea.
[19:12] <OerHeks> Guest39303, if nothing is mounted or your phone is not acting as a gateway, you can safely disconnect it. if you have doubt: turn off your phone and then remove it :-)
[19:12] <Guest39303> bynarie: in addition to the chargeing, i can if i click the arrows up to the right next to language, i can see there the phone under wired connection 2
[19:13] <vastkahuna> That's what it gave me, looks like it did nothing
[19:13] <weyer> hello there. i have a short question. what is the best firewall for a newbie with the linux shell?
[19:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !best | weyer: Who needs one? Also
[19:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | weyer: Who needs one? Also
[19:14] <SonikkuAmerica> ?! Those factoids got removed.
[19:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Please do not take polls in the channel. BestBot in #ubuntu-bots might help Weegee
[19:14] <bynarie> Guest39303, if you cant access any files on it, it doesnt need ejected. simple as that
[19:14] <SonikkuAmerica> weyer: ^^
[19:14] <Guest39303> bynarie: so you are saying there is no way of seeing a list of connected devices in ubuntu 14.04?
[19:14] <Pici> SonikkuAmerica: There is no bestbot
[19:15] <SonikkuAmerica> (Wow, everything got streamlined...)
[19:15] <bynarie> im done man im sorry
[19:15] <bynarie> i told you the answer
[19:15] <Guest39303> bynarie: ok
[19:16] <Guest39303> bynarie: is there an unbuntu help channel other than this one
[19:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest39303: USB? [ lsusb ] Directly connected? [ lspci ]
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: lsusb will show connected devices, which should show how they are detected and what's done with them (ie mounting) in dmesg.
[19:17] <bynarie> guys, dont bother
[19:17] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: is there a way to see connected devices without the terminal
[19:17] <bynarie> here we go again
[19:17] <bynarie> lol
[19:17] <Guest39303> SonikkuAmerica: i there a way to see connected devices without the terminal
[19:17] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Nothing meaningful, and there's no reason not to use it.
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Console commands give you access at a lower level.
[19:18] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: are you saying that ubuntu 14.04 offers no visual means of graphically seeing connected devices?
[19:18] <vastkahuna> What should I try next?
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Why would it?  You can do it easily from the console with a single command.
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Why would you not use the console?
[19:19] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: because i came from windows and code is not my thing and i want to click and see
[19:19] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: like millions of other humans
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Good thing you have Linux to teach you how.  It's a simple text based command and result, graphics have nothing to add.
[19:20] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: tell that to all phones and all people using windows, anyway you might not see the need but here i am requiring it so back to the original question is there no way of seeing connected devices graphically?
[19:20] <leonic12> is there a yumi channel or something_
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: No, it doesn't work that way.
[19:20] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: fantastic
[19:20] <bynarie> jhutchins_wk, i think your wasting your time man... i just went through all of this with him
[19:21] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: You're not computer literate if you can't use basic console commands - in Windows as well as Linux.
[19:21] <bynarie> jhutchins_wk, i agree^^^
[19:21] <crazypyro> Is it feasible that low power mode in the kernal is causing periodic writes to corrupt a FAT file system (USB drive) that is running Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:21] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: in windows i can go to this computer, right click the usb, and select eject
[19:21] <trijntje> Guest39303, just go to the file manager and eject it from there
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: You can in many linux file managers as well - if the device is mounted.
[19:22] <Guest39303> trijntje: it is not lsited in the file manager
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Then it's not mounted and doesn't need to be ejected.
[19:22] <trijntje> Guest39303, then it is not mounted, and you can safely remove it
[19:22] <leonic12> if the device is conected then yes it will appear in the panael if not
[19:22] <leonic12> the no
[19:22] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: it is not listed in file manage, however i opened the terminal and typed in lsusb, and got the phone as bus 002 device 005, how do i eject it
[19:23] <Guest39303> leonic12: it is not listed in file manage, however i opened the terminal and typed in lsusb, and got the phone as bus 002 device 005, how do i eject it
[19:23] <cronser> hello, i would like to use a variable to indicate a directory name while using crontab
[19:23] <leonic12> i have been using ubuntu 14.4 live in a usb and yhat if how it show to me
[19:23] <trijntje> Guest39303, you are not listening: you can unplug it safely
[19:23] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Ejecting it has no meaning.  lsusb sees it because it is connected, it's not mounted and doesn't need to be ejected.
[19:23] <Bashing-om> vastkahuna: keeping it simple, is the file for "boot repair" moved back in place. to verify do terminal command -> tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit <- . IF that file is in place, then one may ppa-puge this one PPA, and then we address  ehoover-compholio-saucy .
[19:23] <cronser> however it does not seem that cron "Agrees" to work with variables
[19:23] <Guest39303> trijntje: you say so yes, but i still want to be able to eject it, even if i can "remove it safely"
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Seriously, you're wasting more than half the power of Linux if you don't learn to use the console.
[19:24] <cronser> should o find a workaround or is it possible?
[19:24] <trijntje> Guest39303, can you explain what you mean by eject?
[19:24] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: ok les assume you are right what would be the safest way to remove it
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Ejecting has no meaning for a device that's not mounted.  It's already ejected.
[19:24] <LordFoobar> hi, is it possible to put comments in a udev rule file (i.e. /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules) ?
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: It is already ejected.
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: Just physically remove it.
[19:24] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: i am not interested in the "power"all i want is something that is virus resistant that will allow me to connect my phoe and read my mails
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: If you learn how to deal with the computer you will understand the things you're trying to do and not have these problems.
[19:25] <bynarie> Guest39303, get out.. you need no help here
[19:25] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: and what is the safest way to phisycally remove it, should i turn off the phone first, and after that should i remove the cable from the phone or from the computer first
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html  http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php  http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: JUST DISCONNECT THE DANGED THING!!!
[19:26] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: i dont want to learn al terminal commands and all that i just want to be able to click and use
[19:26] <trijntje> Guest39303, just unplug it, there is no safer/less safe way to unplug it
[19:26] <Avic> anyone uses freenx here?
[19:26] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: yes disconnect it sure, but which way is the safest
[19:26] <Guest39303> trijntje: really?
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: The illusion that Windows gives of "ejecting" the drive is simply to unmount the filesystem.  It has no effect on ANYTHING else besides whether the filesystem is mounted.
[19:27] <OerHeks> Guest39303, safest way: turn off your phone and then remove it :-)
[19:27] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:27] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: so you say, but humor me, which is the safest way to do it
[19:27] <trijntje> Guest39303, yes, really. You have multiple experts here telling you to just pull the plug
[19:27] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: TAKE A BLOODY AXE AND CUT THE CORD!
[19:27] <bynarie> Guest39303, first of all you need to bend over, smack yourself in the face, have someone kick you in the ass, then unplug it.. this is the proper removal technique
[19:27] <OerHeks> keep asking is also safe
[19:27] <Guest39303> OerHeks: ok thanks, but after i turn it off which part of the cable should i pull first the part to the phone or the part to the computer
[19:27] <tholum> Does ubuntu landscape give any remote access other then scripts? I am looking for a remote shell if possible
[19:27] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: No, I will not humor you, there is NOTHING beyond unmounting the filesystem.
[19:27] <trijntje> bynarie, behave please, that is no way to talk to people
[19:27] <bynarie> lol
[19:27] <bynarie> sorry
[19:27] <OerHeks> Guest39303, which connector ? ... o gush
 Guest39303: TAKE A BLOODY AXE AND CUT THE CORD! <<< lolololol. :P
[19:28] <bynarie> i am cracking up watching this guy pestor everyone
[19:28] <Guest39303> OerHeks: yes which part of the cable is the safest to pull first the part connected to the turned off phon or the part connected to the active computer
[19:28] <jhutchins_wk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzw1_2b-I7A
[19:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest39303: Did you turn the cable off and back on again? :P
[19:28] <OerHeks> if your phone is turned off, there is no power nor data running, so it does not matter anymore, you  pick one
[19:29] <trijntje> bynarie, yeah, I know how you feel, but still, we try to be nice ;)
[19:29] <bynarie> i know you are right
[19:29] <jhutchins_wk> OerHeks: Or if it's turned on, but the filesystem is not mounted, then there's nothing to be safe.
[19:29] <bynarie> my apologies
[19:30] <Guest39303> OerHeks: the phone is stillc hargeing even thugh it is off, also when i turned it off, ubuntu said ether disconnected or something like that
[19:30] <jhutchins_wk> Seriously, this is straight out of Marathon Man (see clip above).
[19:30] <Guest39303> OerHeks: the phone is still chargeing
[19:30] <OerHeks> jhutchins_wk, i doubt it, usb is designed to pull out, power pinns are shorter than the data pinns
[19:31] <OerHeks> Guest39303, you have been answered enough now.
[19:31] <Guest39303> OerHeks: you see i plan to connect my phone to the computer many many times, therefore i want a safe way of removing it many many times
[19:32] <l0rdn1x> Guest39303: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/computers-software/Computers-For-Seniors/Computer-Basics.html
[19:32] <jhutchins_wk> Guest39303: You have been told.  More than once.  You are not the only person with a USB phone connection.
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Apply scissor blade to cord, weld it back together. Repeat.
[19:32] <Guest39303> l0rdn1x: :P
[19:32] <Guest75561> hey wats up
[19:32] <Guest39303> jhutchins_wk: but i am the only one who cares about their phone
[19:33] <Guest39303> anyway thanks for all the half answers, it seems most people do not know the answer to 100% certainty bye
[19:33] <bynarie> jhutchins_wk, i just watched that clip LOL. Its straight out of the movie hahaha
[19:33] <bynarie> Is it safe?
[19:34] <jhutchins_wk> Sigh.  I'm ignorant, I adamantly want to remain ignorant, but I want you to tell me how to do someting that basically isn't even a thing because I'm ignorant.
[19:34] <crazypyro> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/core/hub.c#L109 5.0 GB/s is "superspeed"
[19:34] <bynarie> oh man ive never laughed so hard
[19:35] <crazypyro> guess thats the actual name, still funny
[19:36] <l0rdn1x> jhutchins_wk: Agreed
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> NO!  DON'T TEACH ME ANYTHING!  JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION!
[19:37] <bynarie> he wouldnt even accept the answer
[19:37] <l0rdn1x> jhutchins_wk: yeah Im trying to find a youtube video right now that would describe exactly how that Guest was acting.
[19:38] <georgep> I have a question about copying files over SSH. I'm using gigolo to mount a network share using ubuntu. All works well, but when I copy a file to the remote server, the file permissions are Owner can view/modify, group & other are always forbidden. So I have to change permissions each time. Is there a way I can copy files over ssh and preserve permissions? Thanks
[19:38] <cronser> how can i place the value of an empty string in a var in a bash script?
[19:39] <studentttu> bynarie: i did the install, ubuntu works fine but i lost windows boot
[19:39] <melio> is there a fix for lockups that require standby mode return to fix
[19:40] <studentttu> how do I enable dual boot?
[19:40] <melio> after i updated, my system randomly locks
[19:40] <bynarie> studentttu, sudo update-grub
[19:40] <bynarie> simple as that
[19:40] <bynarie> in terminal
[19:40] <hardtail> Hi guys I am in Grub console trying to fix a boot file from a tutorial for ubuntu install on my tablet. it tells me to enter linux (hd2,gpt5)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13-xxxx root=/dev/mmcblk0p5 video=VGA-1:1368x768e reboot=pci,force but then I receive the error: missing ')' symbol?
[19:40] <bynarie> it will find your windows boot image and add it to grub menu
[19:41] <studentttu> bynarie:  I did it however it didnt find windows
[19:41] <studentttu> lemme reboot and see
[19:41] <bynarie> ok
[19:42] <jhutchins_wk> CF: http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=103;t=000018;p=0
[19:42] <studentttu> bynarie:  didnt work
[19:43] <bynarie> dam it!
[19:43] <bynarie> did you have to change any bios settings like legacy boot?
[19:43] <bynarie> or uefi with csm
[19:43] <jhutchins_wk> georgep: No idea how to control what gigolo does, but if you copy the files with scp or rsync you can preserve the ownership & permission.
[19:44] <grosjean> /close/close
[19:44] <grosjean> fail
[19:44] <studentttu> bynarie:  i havent touched bios in  months
[19:44] <jhutchins_wk> georgep: Be aware that the user ID is numeric, and unless the remote system has the same user ID number it'll end up belonging to whatever user is mapped to that number.
[19:44] <bynarie> ok..
[19:44] <bynarie> where did you install the bootloader?
[19:44] <georgep> jhutchins_wk, interesting thanks, I'll have a look at the gigolo documentation
[19:44] <bynarie> on //sda?
[19:45] <studentttu> bynarie:  do u mean when i partitioned
[19:45] <bynarie> yep
[19:45] <georgep> jhutchins_wk, re user ID, didn't realise that, thanks.
[19:45] <studentttu> I put mountpoint to /windows
[19:46] <studentttu> bynarie:  ^ if that is what u mean
[19:46] <bynarie> WHAT??!!
[19:46] <studentttu> :SSS
[19:46] <studentttu> and ext to /
[19:46] <studentttu> that is the ntfs
[19:46] <bynarie> u didnt have to change anything with the windows mount point
[19:47] <jhutchins_wk> georgep: Note that that's the default for tar as well, you usually have to chown the extracted files.
[19:47] <cronser> i have a short question which should be very simple for you guys. it in this link:
[19:47] <cronser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8723348/
[19:47] <studentttu> bynarie:  i fucked up, is it possible to fix it?
[19:48] <XRayID> language
[19:48] <daftykins> cronser: go and ask in the bash channel
[19:48] <bynarie> hold on man let me check somethin
[19:48] <studentttu> okay
[19:48] <cronser> daftykins i will ask there too, thank you
[19:49] <hardtail> has  anyone installed ubuntu on an asus transformerbook here?
[19:49] <studentttu> bynarie:  could I maybe reinstall ubuntu and change mountpoint there ?
[19:49] <XRayID> mubuntu
[19:50] <bynarie> studentttu, i honestly i dont know about that man.. hold off on uninstalling.. see if someone with more knowledge can help you
[19:50] <bynarie> BRB
[19:51] <OerHeks> hardtail, t100ta ?
[19:51] <studentttu> Hello, I have one SSD drive 512G which had windows on it. I created new partition on free space for ubuntu 100gigs. Problem is I apparently messed up with the windows drive as I chose mount point /windows  and I am unable to get a boot menu or boot to windows? what can I do?
[19:51] <studentttu> I am able to boot to ubuntu only
[19:52] <hardtail> oerheks t100t
[19:52] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/t100ta
[19:53] <OerHeks> not really looking promissing yet
[19:54] <lonewulf85> Hey can anyone help me with my bluetooth card it does not want to communicate with a Samsung galaxy 2 7.0 tablet?
[19:54] <celroc> studentttu: The Windows partition still has its data on it as far as you know, right?  You didn't choose to have it reformatted during the install, I mean?
[19:54] <hardtail> oerheks i have been following this http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/  but i am having a hell of a time..now my windows partition is gone i think so i have a tablet with no os
[19:54] <studentttu> celroc:  yea it has the data
[19:55] <OerHeks> hardtail, you might want to seek help in #ubuntu-touch too
[19:55] <celroc> studentttu: Okay, that's a good sign.  And when you reboot, there just isn't an option to boot to Windows, right?  Just the Ubuntu options?
[19:55] <studentttu> celroc:  it just boots straight to ubuntu
[19:55] <studentttu> before it boot straight to windows
[19:56] <bynarie> he modified the mount point of windows when he was installing ubuntu celroc
[19:56] <SonikkuAmerica> studentttu: Does anything happen when you mash the left SHIFT key when start your computer?
[19:57] <celroc> studentttu: Hmm.  Okay, I'll assume that it somehow missed seeing that you had a Windows install on there and thinks Ubuntu is the only OS, thus is booting to it by default.  Are you comfortable with using a few terminal commands?
[19:57] <studentttu> celroc:  yeah
[19:57] <bynarie> celroc, we already tried update-grub
[19:57] <celroc> bynarie: Oh.  Hmm... you know, that shouldn't really cause a boot issue, though.  That's strange
[19:57] <celroc> Oh.  Well, that's what I was about to suggest.  Hmph.
[19:58] <bynarie> i know lol
[19:58] <celroc> Let's see.... hold on just one second and I'll fire up a VM I got.  Let's see if maybe we can make you a custom grub entry to boot it from :-)
[19:59] <studentttu> okay
[19:59] <bynarie> let me check my grub conf too
[19:59] <bynarie> nm it wouldnt help
[20:00] <whatasunnyday> Anyone have any idea why I would get unmet dependencies while installing nginx-extras on Ubuntu 14.10?
[20:00] <whatasunnyday> I’m trying to install passenger.
[20:01] <studentttu> celroc: it didnt recognize windows either when I was installing ubuntu. That is why I partitioned the drive. Otherwise I would have installed ubuntu next to windows normally
[20:02] <ooloo> what's the command to rehash in ubuntu?
[20:03] <daftykins> ooloo: rehash what?
[20:03] <ooloo> nevermind, I'm an idiot
[20:04] <crazypyro> studentttu: Did you partition over the existing windows partition at all?
[20:05] <studentttu> crazypyro:  I had one partition 512gb, then I partioned it to 400gb which I left for windows, and installed ubuntu to 100gb partition which I put as ext4, I also made a 2gb swap
[20:05] <bynarie> you resized the partition tho right?
[20:05] <bynarie> not deleted it
[20:05] <neldogz> Hi all, I have noticed intermittent issues mounting my partitions specified in the /etc/fstab file during bootup on a Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS system. It first started with issues mounting the encrypted swap which i replaced with an unencrypted swap partition and now bootup is complaining about an NTFS partition. The error is "The disk drive for /media/user1/partition1 is not ready or not present: Continue to wait, or press S to skip mounting o
[20:05] <neldogz> r M for manual recovery.
[20:05] <neldogz> This is my fstab: /dev/dm-1 /media/user1/partition1 ntfs defaults 0 0
[20:05] <studentttu> yes
[20:06] <bynarie> k
[20:06] <studentttu> resized, and didnt format
[20:06] <bynarie> just makin sure
[20:06] <studentttu> yeah
[20:06] <crazypyro> studentttu: You could've easily messed up the existing windows partition if you didn't shrink it properly before re-partitioning....
[20:06] <crazypyro> oh ok
[20:06] <celroc> studentttu: Okay, think I found something that might help :-)  http://askubuntu.com/questions/22629/add-windows-7-to-boot-menu and then scroll down to the guy that answered.  This should show how to make a custom entry for Windows in GRUB (You may need to change the numbers a little to suit your formatting) and then run sudo update-grub to apply your changes
[20:07] <studentttu> celroc:  okay Ill try
[20:07] <studentttu> celroc:  yeah I can see my windows partition still, and access the files but i just cant boot to windows
[20:07] <studentttu> ill try that
[20:07] <crazypyro> studentttu: If you have your windows disk, just fixmbr on recovery disk
[20:08] <crazypyro> put in recovery, get to command prompt, bootrec.exe /fixboot , bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[20:08] <studentttu> crazypyro:  will it not destroy my ubuntu boot then?
[20:08] <crazypyro> those 2 should make you boot into windows, then you can set up your mbr with a windows program.
[20:08] <rh1n0> anything wrong with removing (or otherwise disabling) the default 'ubuntu' user in cloud environments? (i.e. amazon)
[20:09] <celroc> crazypyro: Can you set up the MBR easily to boot Linux from Windows?  I was under the impression it was better to let GRUB handle that
[20:09] <rh1n0> and replacing with it a different user account i mean
[20:09] <crazypyro> How I did it was I fixed my mbr/boot and then installed a bootloader program (its only for windows, forgot which one, similar to grub) that is before grub
[20:09] <crazypyro> so I have my windows bootloader program where I can select ubuntu or windows
[20:10] <crazypyro> then if I select ubuntu, I go to grub menu where I can select which ubuntu or even go back to windows.
[20:10] <crazypyro> probably unnecessary, but since I defualt to ubuntu, I like having the 2nd window just in case I miss switching to windows.
[20:11] <celroc> studentttu and crazypyro:  You can pick whichever method that you prefer, although I have no experience with crazypyro's method.  I do have to wonder if when an Ubuntu kernel upgrade happens, if it will overwrite the Windows bootloader again when it runs update-grub, which might make problems later
[20:11] <studentttu> celroc:  how did I access the etc place
[20:11] <studentttu> I havent used ubuntu for a while
[20:12] <studentttu> this place/etc/grub.d/40_custom
[20:12] <celroc> studentttu: As the root user :-D  here, this should be a quick way to edit the file listed in the guide.  In a terminal, run gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[20:13] <celroc> studentttu: That'll open an appropriately privileged text editor with the file you need, by the way :-)
[20:13] <crazypyro> Wish I could find the program I used. It was a graphical interface on windows, let you set default and names and took like 1-2 mins to fix the mbr
[20:13] <studentttu> celroc:  yeah ill aptget it first
[20:14] <studentttu> celroc:  hmm i just have exec tail in there
[20:14] <studentttu> celroc:  should I replace it with that copy paste or add it?
[20:14] <lorfds> if i have a variable in bash, how do i put this into a file
[20:14] <crazypyro> oh yeah, it was EasyBCD
[20:15] <lorfds> cat $var > myfile.txt
[20:15] <ki7mt> +1 works pretty slick
[20:15] <lorfds> is that correct?
[20:15] <celroc> studentttu: Don't remove that part.  You'll want to add the part in the guide while still having the exec tail part
[20:15] <celroc> studentttu: Let me double-check really quick if the exec tail is supposed to come before or after the entry
[20:15] <crazypyro> studentttu: Okay, so just fixmbr and fixboot and then install EasyBCD on windows imo, especially if you aren't proficient with unix cl tools
[20:16] <ki7mt> crazypyro, EasyBCD boot screen is ugly, but I use it for allot of things on multi-boot systems, and it's fairly robust.
[20:16] <celroc> studentttu: Okay, it should go after the exec tail line and comments. :-)
[20:16] <crazypyro> ki7mt: Also simple as hell to setup
[20:16] <ki7mt> Yup
[20:16] <studentttu> crazypyro:  okay, ill try this celroc method first if it works otherwise i will have to start looking for the win cd
[20:17] <celroc> The Celroc(R) Method :-D
[20:17] <studentttu> celroc:  okay, I put my mount point as /windows does it affect this in anyway? this copypasta
[20:17] <studentttu> heh
[20:17] <studentttu> during the partition
[20:18] <celroc> studentttu: You didn't put that in the file you just edited, right?  Just during the install earlier?
[20:18] <studentttu> celroc:  yeah
[20:18] <studentttu> during install earlier
[20:19] <celroc> studentttu: Good.  That won't affect this.  All that really does is tells Ubuntu where to put your Windows files, should you want to access them while in the Ubuntu OS.  They should show up in /windows, but it should have any affect on the issue you were currently having
[20:19] <celroc> studentttu: Now, be sure to save the file you just edited and close the editor.  Once closed, run 'sudo update-grub' to apply your changes
[20:19] <Bashing-om>  celroc studentttu  // Might check -> df -h <- and see what the system sees for mount points ?
[20:20] <studentttu> celroc:  Bashing-om  yeah.. dev/sdb1   mounted on /windows
[20:20] <celroc> Bashing-om: That would certainly work, but he seems to be having an issue with the grub bootloader not showing a Windows entry.  It's more a grub issue than a mount-point issue, I'd say
[20:21] <bynarie> that doesnt sound right
[20:21] <bynarie> windows was installed first.. shouldnt it be on /sda1
[20:21] <celroc> Bashing-om: OH!  You're right, though, we might need that partition number later for the bootloader
[20:21] <bynarie> escepcially if you only have 1 drive
[20:21] <studentttu> celroc:  bynarie  i have ubuntu in sdb6 and windows in sdb1
[20:21] <Bashing-om> celroc: Just think'n also UUID mapping ??
[20:22] <bynarie> ok
[20:22] <studentttu> celroc:  i guess i should change menuentry then since its sda1
[20:22] <bynarie> did you get it fixed yet?
[20:22] <studentttu> not yet
[20:22] <bynarie> dam!
[20:22] <studentttu> celroc:  i change the copypasta to dev/sdb1  and try if it works
[20:23] <celroc> studentttu: How many hard disks do you have in your system, by the way?  I might have made a mistake
[20:23] <bynarie> studentttu, can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub plz?
[20:23] <studentttu> I used to have 3 but only 1 now
[20:24] <VBlizzard> so,I am trying to install Ubuntu, yet I am getting the error 'fast tsc calibration failed'
[20:24] <bynarie> VBlizzard, does it still boot?
[20:24] <studentttu> bynarie: pastebin.com/qHvmPNjz
[20:24] <bynarie> i get that error everytime but it still boots fine for me
[20:25] <celroc> studentttu: Hmm... Only one disk.  It should show up as /dev/sda, not /dev/sdb.  That's very strange.  The copy/paste might still work, but it looks like bynarie and Bashing-om have some recommendations, too.  This could be going a little out of my area of expertise, so they might give better advice than me
[20:26] <Bashing-om> celroc: Hey, I am just along for the ride ! .. Grub booting is a particular interest of mine .
[20:27] <compdoc> no free rides
[20:27] <bynarie> celroc, if he HAD 3 disks and took 2 out, i dont think it would change to sda.. it would still be sdb until he completely deleted partition and reformatted
[20:27] <celroc> Bashing-om: Yeah, bootloaders are cruel beasts, aren't they?  So hard to tame
[20:27] <studentttu> celroc:  okay I changed the sdb1 and saved, updated grub but it just straight booted to windows. It didnt locate any windows during update-grub either, only memtest lol
[20:27] <VBlizzard> bynarie, it gets to the install screen, then says the error.
[20:27] <Bashing-om> compdoc: :) ..
[20:27] <celroc> studentttu: It... booted straight to Windows?
[20:28] <studentttu> ubuntu
[20:28] <studentttu> sorry
[20:28] <studentttu> :s
[20:28] <bynarie> dam!
[20:28] <bynarie> this is becoming a tough one
[20:28] <studentttu> Maybe I should fix the boot with windows disc and reinstall ubuntu?
[20:29] <celroc> studentttu: Hmph.  I think bynarie was hitting the nail on the head with that other file.  Would you mind if we tried one more thing?
[20:29] <Bashing-om> celroc: It is them behind-the-scene-files that are parsed by the kernel that gets me ! .. one of these days I am going to have to "read the code" .
[20:29] <bynarie> studentttu, have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:29] <studentttu> celroc:  i dont mind
[20:30] <bynarie> studentttu, use that link i provided you
[20:30] <studentttu> bynarie:  i have not
[20:30] <bynarie> try that
[20:30] <bynarie> sounds like it might be your answer
[20:30] <hardtail> can't use this web chat anymore brb
[20:31] <celroc> studentttu: okay, please run 'gksudo /etc/default/grub" and then look for a line that says something like GRUB_TIMEOUT=(number) .
[20:31] <VBlizzard> the last line of the error is '[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[20:31] <VBlizzard> '
[20:31] <bynarie> studentttu, if you can burn a CD in ubuntu, you should be able to use the boot repair
[20:31] <bynarie> i looked into it, looks like it might work perfectly for you
[20:34] <givello> Hey there, I was around yesterday night for an issue I had with my xorg not booting up
[20:34] <studentttu> celroc: http://pastebin.com/qHvmPNjz
[20:35] <jbernal0019> babymri
[20:35] <VBlizzard> well,I can't even install Ubuntu.
[20:35] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay ill try
[20:35] <celroc> studentttu: Oh, I see it's already set.  Hmm....
[20:35] <givello> not sure if the guys who helped me out are still around but Id like to thank them although I ended up f-ing it up even more, which explain I didnt connect back
[20:35] <chick_> Hi Im using ubuntu 14 and my top bar has disappeared how can i bring it up
[20:35] <celroc> studentttu: Yeah, you might be better off with the bynarie(R) method instead
[20:36] <neldogz> Hi all, I have noticed intermittent issues mounting my partitions specified in the /etc/fstab file during bootup on a Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS system. It first started with issues mounting the encrypted swap which i replaced with an unencrypted swap partition and now bootup is complaining about an NTFS partition. The error is "The disk drive for /media/user1/partition1 is not ready or not present: Continue to wait, or press S to skip mounting o
[20:36] <neldogz> r M for manual recovery.
[20:36] <bynarie> its about 500-600mb iso file, you just burn it and boot into it
[20:36] <studentttu> celroc:  heh :D im downloading the program now, but how do I burn it lol
[20:36] <bynarie> try it man
[20:36] <bynarie> just right click iso file
[20:36] <bynarie> select burn to cd/dvd
[20:36] <studentttu> ok
[20:36] <studentttu> okay thats simple
[20:36] <Finetundra> i need a driver for a printer/scanner combo. where would i find it?
[20:37] <bynarie> studentttu, or it will say open with "fxburn" or w/e burning software you have
[20:37] <givello> So here is my question for tonight is the following: what could be the reason for/ how do I diagnose a purple static screen on ubuntu startup
[20:37] <bynarie> or try double clicking it and see it burning software opens up
[20:37] <givello> not static noise, just the purple background of ubuntu
[20:38] <Finetundra> givello, how long does the problem last and at what point during startup does it occur?
[20:40] <chick_> Hi Im using ubuntu 14 and my top bar has disappeared I cant see my notifications like network,power status and others how can i bring it up please
[20:40] <AlexPortable> I have a file where I need to scrap 24 lines of code from, how do I do this?
[20:40] <AlexPortable> Automated i mean
[20:41] <givello> Finetundra: forever, as in, I didnt see anything happenning during the different lengths of time I waited
[20:41] <givello> Finetundra: it occurs right after grub
[20:41] <givello> When I select ubuntu
[20:41] <Finetundra> givello, so it just freezes there?
[20:42] <givello> Finetundra: yup
[20:42] <givello> Im currently in a liveusb on said computer
[20:42] <Finetundra> givello, have you ever been able to get past it?
[20:43] <Finetundra> even briefly?
[20:43] <givello> Finetundra: well, I had a functionning system two days ago
[20:43] <givello> Finetundra: apart from that, no
[20:43] <Bashing-om> VBlizzard: Can you boot the liveDVD(USB) to "try ubuntu" mode ?
[20:44] <givello> I have access to the SSD from that liveusb, but Im not sure if the last syslog entries date from my chroot or if I rebooted since
[20:44] <givello> Or if chroot uses syslog from the place I chrooted in or not
[20:44] <bynarie> studentttu, whats ur status
[20:44] <studentttu> bynarie:  burning right now
[20:45] <hroi> hi
[20:45] <hroi> I have a touch screen laptop
[20:45] <hroi> I guess we know what Im going to say next
[20:45] <hroi> I have a problem with my touchpad
[20:46] <hroi> I can tell from many forums that my problem is widespread
[20:46] <bynarie> k
[20:46] <bynarie> when you reboot make sure you do boot from the CD
[20:46] <bynarie> =]
[20:46] <hroi> but I havent been able to find a workaround that works for me
[20:46] <Bashing-om> givello: Have you tried booting to terminal in the install, and from terminal activating the GUI ?
[20:46] <VBlizzard> Bashing-om, I'm using an .iso file.
[20:46] <hroi> -- not sure if ubuntu is for laptop anyway
[20:47] <givello> Bashing-om: I cant reach that point
[20:47] <givello> Bashing-om: the system is completly unresponsive once I pass the grub
[20:47] <studentttu> bynarie:  so I just reboot with the disc now right?
[20:47] <givello> Bashing-om: then again, maybe you mean changing something from the boot line in grub?
[20:47] <bynarie> VBlizzard, i run ubuntu on 2 laptops just fine
[20:48] <Bashing-om> givello: Try: boot to grub menu, 'e' key for edit mode, replace "quiet splash" with the term text, ctrl+x to boot to a terminal. Can do ?
[20:48] <dbugger> Hello
[20:48] <bynarie> yes sir.. u might have to press like f11 or f12 to bring up boot menu
[20:48] <bynarie> but it might auto boot from CD
[20:48] <bynarie> give it a try
[20:49] <hroi> bynarie,  well laptops older than 2 years maybe
[20:49] <givello> Bashing-om: can do, I actually tried deleting quiet splash before, but to no avail
[20:49] <givello> so I need to add text
[20:49] <hardtail> finally got a proper irc client
[20:49] <givello> Ill hopefully be back in a few minutes
[20:49] <hroi> bynarie, this is probably more of a kernel issue -- why most distros dont catch up att all in the first few years of a new device
[20:49] <VBlizzard> bynarie, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a VM.
[20:49] <givello> If Im not, you can call 911
[20:50] <hardtail> does anyone here have an asus  t100?
[20:50] <bynarie> yea
[20:50] <hroi> bynarie,  I would never have bought this laptop BTW,  just my work IT seems very keen on latest crap.
[20:50] <Bashing-om> givello: As you can get to a terminal, then system is intact. maybe just a unity issue ? What results when booted to TTY1 -> sudo service lightdm start <- assuming lightdm is your DM .
[20:50] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay its booting into Lubuntu 13.04 now. I hope it doesnt cause a problem considering I had 14.04
[20:50] <Apachez> whats the current status of mounting ssd with discard flag to handle trim? some claim its not recommended, the recommended method is instead to cron fstrim - is this still a valid claim?
[20:50] <studentttu> ubuntu
[20:50] <bynarie> VBlizzard, i cant get ubuntu to work in VM either
[20:51] <bekks> bynarie: Why not?
[20:51] <bynarie> dunno... never has
[20:51] <bynarie> it just doesnt boot up
[20:51] <bekks> For me it always does.
[20:51] <bynarie> it gets stuck on the purple background and does nothing
[20:52] <bekks> bynarie: Just try using the nomodeset kernel option when booting.
[20:52] <studentttu> bynarie:  so I ll just do the recommended repair
[20:52] <bynarie> studentttu, yes try that
[20:52] <givello> Back
[20:52] <VBlizzard> so, I'm trying to learn bash.
[20:52] <VBlizzard> :L
[20:52] <givello> Didn4t zork
[20:53] <givello> Didnt work sorry
[20:53] <givello> damn qwerty
[20:53] <Bashing-om> studentttu: bynarie // "booting into Lubuntu 13.04" There is no software repository available for EOL release .
[20:53] <givello> So I still experience that lovely purple hue
[20:53] <Bashing-om> givello: As you can get to a terminal, then system is intact. maybe just a unity issue ? What results when booted to TTY1 -> sudo service lightdm start <-  assuming lightdm is your DM .
[20:54] <givello> Bashing-om: I cant, Im afraid
[20:54] <givello> the magic system rescue keys dont even work from the point I press enter on the ubuntu choie
[20:54] <givello> choice
[20:54] <givello> I do not get to a terminal
[20:54] <bynarie> studentttu, whats happenin on there
[20:55] <Bashing-om> givello: In that case, my suggestion, for a quicker fix, take the nuclear solution and (RE-)install.
[20:55] <givello> Bashing-om: Id love to avoid that though
[20:55] <givello> Bashing-om: as I said before, a chroot into that drive works fine
[20:55] <givello> couldnt I fix it from there?
[20:55] <VBlizzard> so, there is no way to install Ubuntu on VM?
[20:56] <studentttu> bynarie: did the repair biw u gave grub bootloader
[20:56] <studentttu> bynarie:  did the repair now i have grub bootload, I have 2 windows for some reason, lemme see if it boots lol
[20:56] <Bashing-om> givello: In that case, roll up sleeves, and go to work and find out why .. boot the liveDVD and run file system checks, IF file system checks are good, next make sure the package manager is in a happy state.
[20:56] <bynarie> k
[20:56] <studentttu> bynarie:  I wonder if the other one is because of the copapasta i made
[20:56] <givello> its a liveusb
[20:56] <givello> but okay
[20:56] <givello> Bashing-om: though both those things are done
[20:57] <givello> Bashing-om: I even updated the system
[20:57] <bynarie> studentttu, if we can get you into windows then we have been successful!
[20:57] <givello> Bashing-om: by checking the file system I guess you mean runnning fsck
[20:57] <givello> That is done
[20:58] <Bashing-om> givello: IF the file system checks are good, and the system is up-to-date; I can concieve of now reason one should not be able to boot to terminal. As otherwise, grub would scream and holler.
[20:58] <givello> Sorry for the lack of ' before, just finally found the key :D
[20:58] <Bashing-om> now/no*
[20:58] <givello> Bashing-om: its indeed very weird
[20:59] <hardtail> Does anyone know why this returns an error? "linux (hd2,gpt5)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13-xxxx root=/dev/mmcblk0p5 video=VGA-1:1368x768e reboot=pci,force"
[20:59] <VBlizzard> .
[20:59] <VBlizzard> so, yeah, what do I do?
[20:59] <givello> I didn't check recently, but even using the repair option on the boot menu freezes the computer
[20:59] <givello> well, used to a few hours ago
[21:00] <bynarie> studentttu, :::cross fingers:::
[21:00] <studentttu> bynarie: :D:D:D
[21:00] <studentttu> bynarie:  YAYYY it worked :D:D thanks
[21:00] <studentttu> haha
[21:00] <Bashing-om> givello: So, booting the install, you get to grub boot menu ? right ? . what kernel is shown with an 'asterisk' on the left ?
[21:00] <studentttu> bynarie:  thanks bro u will have to help me with one more thing though
[21:00] <studentttu> bynarie:  the swap partition thing lol
[21:00] <givello> Bashing-om: booting on the install I get four options if my memory serves me right
[21:01] <givello> Bashing-om: in the grub menu
[21:01] <vani_> I want to have the /dev/sda6 as swap space. I encrypted it with luks and a pass key. However when I try to luksOpen(sudo cryptsetup --verbose --key-file /etc/keys/sda6_crypt luksOpen /dev/sda6 sda6_crypt) I get Failed to open key file. I created the keyfile using the command sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/etc/keys/sda6_key bs=1 count=32 Any help ?
[21:01] <givello> first is ubuntu, second more ubuntu options, third is system configuration, which takes me to uefi after a reboot
[21:01] <givello> that makes it three, mea culpa
[21:02] <givello> choosing the more ubuntu options thingy leads me to a number or numbered kernel releases
[21:02] <jjavaholic> why do I have to gksudo everytime plug in and out a USB pendrive?
[21:02] <givello> and corresponding repair options
[21:02] <studentttu> bynarie:  so how did I increase the swap partition with gparted? or what was it?
[21:02] <v_> in ubuntu default terminal, how can I remove the alt+1 and alt+2 key to swap between terminal tabs and do irssi window swap instead
[21:02] <givello> choosing any of the regular kernels doesn't have any different effect on the matter
[21:02] <bynarie> yea run gparted from command line
[21:03] <bynarie> im so glad it worked man
[21:03] <bynarie> !!!
[21:03] <givello> and choosing any of the repair options leads me to that grub-like, frozen screen of repair options
[21:03] <Bashing-om> givello: UEFI is - to be honest - out of my sphere of experience, is it that you have EFI boot partition, and have now added boot code to the MBR ?
[21:04] <studentttu> bynarie:  me too thanks hahah
[21:04] <givello> Bashing-om: I didn't consider the possibility of a UEFI issue
[21:04] <v_> oh lol found
[21:04] <studentttu> bynarie:  hmmm I cant run gparted it says root privileges are requires. how did I login as root?
[21:04] <givello> Bashing-om: I'm not sure how I'd check for such a mistake
[21:04] <bynarie> welcome
[21:04] <bynarie> sudo gparted
[21:04] <givello> Bashing-om: I'm also not sure how it could have happened but let's not take any risk
[21:05] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay im here what next?
[21:05] <bynarie> resize the swap partition
[21:05] <Blizzy> so, if I can't install Ubuntu on VM, should I try Debian?
[21:05] <bynarie> right click on it, swapoff, then resize
[21:05] <bynarie> thn right click, swpon
[21:06] <Bashing-om> givello: Have you at any time RE-installed grub ? and does termianl command -> sudo parted -l <- get spastic ?
[21:06] <hardtail> does anyone know why linux (hd2,gpt5)/boot/vmlinuz-3.13-xxxx root=/dev/mmcblk0p5 video=VGA-1:1368x768e reboot=pci,force   returns error: missing ) symbol?
[21:06] <studentttu> bynarie:  so I should make it a little bit bigger than my ram?
[21:06] <givello> Bashing-om: I believe I haven't no
[21:06] <kahtahs> bynarie: you should use gksudo instead of sudo for graphical apps
[21:06] <givello> Bashing-om: I'm not sure what you mean by get spastic
[21:06] <bynarie> if you want to
[21:07] <bekks> hardtail: Because there is a ) missing somewhere in your actual line
[21:08] <hardtail> bekks I am following a guide. there is nothing else enclosed in brackets so how would i know if something is missing?
[21:08] <Avic> how do i know that kde is running in ubuntu?
[21:09] <bekks> hardtail: So I guess you copied and pasted the line from the guide, not from your actual config, did you?
[21:09] <v_> what web browser does ubuntu users prefer?
[21:09] <navetz> I am getting : a mysql 2002 error when I try to login to phpmyadmin. When I try to restart mysql using sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart it fails
[21:09] <v_> do
[21:09] <bekks> v_: the one the individual likes most.
[21:09] <studentttu> bynarie:  im unable to change the size
[21:09] <studentttu> bynarie:  i can only make it smaller
[21:10] <v_> bekks, what do you use?
[21:10] <hardtail> bekks I am typing it into the computer, it's a different machine
[21:10] <studentttu> bynarie:  but not bigger
[21:10] <Bashing-om> givello: If both EFI and MBR have the boot code then 'parted' will not be able to determine what is true and will say so.
[21:10] <v_> I can't find chrome from my repositories
[21:10] <bekks> v_: chrome and firefox in no particular order.
[21:10] <bekks> !chrome
[21:10] <Avic> How do i know if kde is running in ubuntu wen i start freenx server?
[21:11] <v_> ok.
[21:11] <bynarie> studentttu, did you right click the swap partition and select swap off?
[21:11] <bynarie> thn it wil be sizeable
[21:11] <v_> I switched to classic ubuntu menus by starting compiz. My alt+tab doesn't switch between apps. Is this normal?
[21:11] <studentttu> bynarie: yeah i meant i cant make it bigger only smaller
[21:11] <bekks> v_: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[21:12] <studentttu> bynarie: because i dont have  " freespace"
[21:12] <bynarie> do u have any unallocated space?
[21:12] <bynarie> thats why
[21:12] <studentttu> bynarie:  can i make windows even smaller?
[21:12] <studentttu> :S
[21:12] <bynarie> yes
[21:12] <studentttu> by unmounting it first?
[21:13] <navetz> can anyone help me figure out how to get my mysql server started?
[21:13] <Avic> How do i know if KDE Desktop session is running in ubuntu wen i start the freenx-server?
[21:13] <Blizzy> guys, I keep getting this when I try to install Ubuntu on a VPS. http://gyazo.com/829298320e996c856c624a86bacd18d4
[21:13] <studentttu> bynarie:  or could I possibly make extra swap partition in a second hard drive? if install it in this computer
[21:13] <vani_> Is there anybody here that knows about setting up, opening dmcrypt volumes ?
[21:14] <chick_> Hi Im using ubuntu 14 and my top bar has disappeared I cant see my notifications like network,power status and others how can i bring it up please
[21:15] <v_> in lxde you would type lxpanelctl restart, but I don't know about unity
[21:16] <crazypyro> Does ubuntu have usb autosuspend rules like this on arch (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_saving#USB_autosuspend)
[21:18] <bynarie> studentttu, dont put it on a second HDD
[21:18] <bynarie> just resize windows part
[21:18] <studentttu> bynarie:  but how do I resize it?
[21:18] <studentttu> bynarie:  should I unmount it first?
[21:19] <bynarie> i dont think so, just right click and resize
[21:19] <bynarie> resize it about -4gb
[21:19] <bynarie> then add the 4gb to your swap
[21:20] <bynarie> then right click on swap and hit swapon
[21:21] <studentttu> bynarie:  its not allowing me to resize it
[21:22] <studentttu> bynarie:  im only able to unmout or manage flags
[21:24] <bynarie> k try unoumnt then resize
[21:25] <givello> Bashing-om: sorry for the delay, I was afk
[21:25] <givello> Bashing-om: but do I run that in the chroot?
[21:26] <Bashing-om> givello: still trying to boot ubuntu, correct ? Is ubutntu the onlu OS installed ?
[21:26] <studentttu> bynarie:  i have 5gigs freespace now but swap doesnt let me increase the size
[21:26] <bynarie> then im not sure
[21:26] <Finetundra> givello, did you get everything sorted out?
[21:27] <givello> Bashing-om: yes, but I figured out the running parted part, I can indeed run it from the liveusb as it lists from all block devices. here is what it looks like
[21:27] <studentttu> bynarie:  hmm i can make it as new partition. should i just create as linux-swap?
[21:27] <Bashing-om> givello: "parted -l" if you are presently in the chroot . yes ( elevated privileges are not then required as in the CHroot "you" are root) .
[21:27] <studentttu> bynarie:  or should I delete linux-swap first and make the whole thing as linux-swap
[21:27] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8724376/
[21:28] <crazypyro> How do I decrease the timeout period that ubuntu gives a usb drive to wakeup up from auto suspend before timing out?
[21:28] <bynarie> studentttu, hold on let me see.. ill test it on mine
[21:28] <Bashing-om> givello: look'n .
[21:28] <v_> is there some text based browser installed by default on ubuntu
[21:28] <givello> Finetundra: unfortunatly not
[21:28] <Finetundra> quick question, my grub seems to be corrupted should i just reinstall it?
[21:28] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay
[21:28] <lumia900> is that necessary to add a host name in windows PC for access my ubuntu samba
[21:28] <slevin> ciao
[21:28] <Finetundra> givello, sorry to hear that
[21:29] <bynarie> studentttu, ok. as long as you have turned swapoff, you can delete the swap part and make a whole new one
[21:29] <bynarie> then turn swapon
[21:29] <kojak_> What would this command do if OpenJDK 7 is installed, but OpenJDK 6 isn't?
[21:29] <kojak_> update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-*/jre/bin/java 10
[21:30] <Bashing-om> givello: Parted info looks good to me .. see no fault .. ubuntu is the sole OS .. so in small steps let's try and boot to the TTY1 terminal, ok ?
[21:30] <slevin> how are you?
[21:30] <givello> Bashing-om: I'd love to :D
[21:31] <studentttu> bynarie:  okay ill do it
[21:31] <bynarie> studentttu, you have had one hell of a ride
[21:32] <bynarie> LOL
[21:32] <givello> Bashing-om: here is some extra info that might be relevant: My initial problem was an inability to start X because of a no screen found error
[21:32] <bynarie> studentttu, BTW.. you said your grub has 2 menu entries... try to run sudo update-grub again and see if it fixes it
[21:32] <givello> Bashing-om: after much fiddling I wound up making things worse, or they might have gotten worse on their own.
[21:32] <bynarie> 2 menu entries for windows i mean
[21:33] <givello> Bashing-om: additionally to the current situation, I couldn't boot in any liveusb
[21:33] <studentttu> bynarie:  im unable to delete it because my swap is sdb5 and ubuntu in sdb6, and it says i have to unmount higher than sdb5 but i cant unmount 6
[21:33] <Bashing-om> givello: Boot the install to the grub boot menu, with that fist kernel entry as default press the 'e' key -> boot parameters screen, down toward the bottom of the screen is the boot command line starting with "linuz" containing 'quiet splash' . do you see this ?
[21:33] <studentttu> bynarie:  do u think its okay just to make the unallocated space as a second linux-swap
[21:33] <bynarie> yea try it
[21:33] <givello> Bashing-om: I fixed that issue by figuring out that the DVI port on my screen was the issue as trying DVI on another screen worked, and trying VGA on that screen with the DVI port on the card and a converter worked
[21:34] <slevin> I dont understand nothig
[21:34] <givello> Bashing-om: so here where we're at
[21:34] <studentttu> bynarie:  now it found windows through update-grub too
[21:34] <bynarie> im kind of out of options man my brain has reached its limit for the day
[21:34] <bynarie> awesome
[21:34] <givello> Bashing-om: I already tried switching quiet splash with text
[21:34] <givello> Bashing-om: still this lovely purple hue
[21:35] <slevin> do you speak italian?
[21:35] <studentttu> bynarie:  hmm the new linux swap is not visible underl dev sdb2 tree. Under sdb2 i have linux swap sdb5 and sdb6 which is ubuntu
[21:36] <givello> Bashing-om: I should add that I'm still in a liveusb on the target computer, so any testing will mean disconnection from irc and reboot and reinstall or irssi
[21:36] <studentttu> does it matter?
[21:36] <givello> of
[21:36] <squinty> studentttu:  might want to read gparted docs which give good examples/explantions   http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[21:37] <Finetundra> while we're on the topic of grub, does anyone know how to blindly pass through it?
[21:37] <kojak_> What would this command do if OpenJDK 7 is installed, but OpenJDK 6 isn't?
[21:37] <kojak_> update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-*/jre/bin/java 10
[21:38] <Bashing-om> givello: so, we are looking at the fact that when the kernel is loaded a suitable video driver is not ? - you do have graphics up to the time that the login screen is displayed ?
[21:39] <drehdz> testing
[21:39] <givello> Bashing-om: well, its not a login screen. More like the purple background that already exists for grub and the loading screen.
[21:39] <agliodbs> Levono Carbon vs. Asus Zenbook.  Which makes the better Ubuntu machine?
[21:39] <squinty> Finetundra:  you should be able to determine a solution by reading  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2
[21:40] <givello> Bashing-om: and that plain purple background is the only thing I see from the moment I press enter in the grub and until my computer immediately freezes on it
[21:40] <bynarie> anyone in here running wayland/weston?
[21:40] <squinty> !anyone > bynarie
[21:41] <Bashing-om> givello: Try'n to think this through, as to exactly at what point the grpahics layer is failing . So, when you boot you do not get to see the GUI login screen ?
[21:41] <givello> Bashing-om: no, only purple from grub on
[21:42] <givello> Bashing-om: let me try and fetch the last kernel logs, if any were generated when I tried the text tip
[21:42] <bynarie> huh?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> givello: Then, yeah, I would say X is not starting .. gimme a bit to consider what we should do in this case.
[21:43] <Finetundra> squinty, i meant the question in the sense that GRUB is loading at a weird resolution that none of my monitors can support or that the integrated graphics can't do anything with
[21:43] <squinty> bynarie:  polls are conducted in other relevant channels.  better to just ask/state your exact problem rather than "does anyone...."  :)
[21:43] <Bashing-om> givello: While looking at logs, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log file .
[21:44] <bynarie> ok... gotcha.. i was just curious.. no problem.. thank you
[21:44] <studentttu> how did I get 144Hz running in ubuntu, I have only 60hz now apparently
[21:44] <studentttu> bynarie:  I couldnt get it to move under the ubuntu tree, so ... maybe 2gb is enough lol
[21:45] <bynarie> i personally think it is
[21:45] <bynarie> but thats my opinion
[21:45] <studentttu> bynarie:  yeah okay
[21:45] <fmerges> Hello. How can I get the tray icons back in place with 14.04 Gnome Classic, I tried the solutions from several pages, but still they don't appear, any suggestions?
[21:46] <Avic> what is the command to add in the cong file of a server to run the kubuntu wen the server starts?
[21:46] <justin_pizza> anyone know a good chat for question on vm's with zen
[21:46] <studentttu> bynarie:  thanks again for your help
[21:46] <givello> Bashing-om: if X wasn't starting, why wouldn't I be thrown back to a terminal, as I used to at the beginning of this whole ordeal>
[21:46] <crazypyro> Does anyone have any idea where the wakeup timer default duration for usb autosuspend gets set?
[21:46] <givello> ?
[21:46] <bynarie> no problem!
[21:47] <givello> Bashing-om: I can't find any relevant log
[21:47] <givello> Bashing-om: either the date is wrong or the syslog is from yesterday
[21:48] <Bashing-om> givello: I look at it like we can not even get to a terminal, and file system checks are good, and system is updated .. Must be a problem in the xserver layer .
[21:48] <givello> Bashing-om: and the X log refers to my attempt to start X in a chroot, which failed
[21:49] <Bashing-om> givello: YUK, do I understand that you can not do a full CHange root from the liveUSB into the install ?
[21:49] <givello> Bashing-om: well, I may have screwed something up
[21:49] <givello> Bashing-om: let me try right away
[21:50] <givello> Bashing-om: I think I had forgotten the /dev/ /sys/ and so forth steps before
[21:50] <studentttu> Hello, is it possible for me to have 144Hz screen refresh rate in ubuntu? I have a 144hz screen running at 60hz
[21:50] <studentttu> xrandr --refresh 144 doesnt work
[21:51] <givello> Bashing-om: I see conflicting info online, do you have any reference regarding chroots?
[21:52] <squinty> Finetundra:  might want to explore using LILO rather than Grub2.  Last time I used it was years ago now so am not familiar with it's "in's 'n outs" these days......
[21:52] <givello> Bashing-om: what is this dbootstrap about? I thought you only needed chroot
[21:52] <squinty> Finetundra:  http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/
[21:54] <Finetundra> squinty, how would i go about installing that?
[21:56] <squinty> Finetundra:  it's in the default repo's.   Read up on it first might be a good idea though..
[21:56] <Finetundra> squinty, gotcha
[21:57] <Bashing-om> givello: This is the way I do a full change root: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8724638/ .
[21:57] <studentttu> Hello, is it possible for me to have 144Hz screen refresh rate in ubuntu? I have a 144hz screen running at 60hz.
[21:58] <Bashing-om> givello: debootstrap is going a level deeper than we will ever have a need to go to .
[22:03] <givello> Bashing-om: I'll try that
[22:03] <givello> Hang on
[22:03] <Finetundra> squinty, since you said it's in the offical repos, install should just 'sudo apt-get install lilo' right?
[22:04] <squinty> Finetundra:  yes
[22:04] <Finetundra> cool
[22:04] <Bashing-om> givello: Make SURE that networking workins in this chraoot IF we are going to be messing about with system files; Once the chroot is in effect what returns from terminal command -> ping -c3 google.com <- ? Make sure we do have network ability !
[22:06] <squinty> studentttu:  from a quick google, I see that some reported success by using 120Hz instead of the full 144Hz refresh rate.
[22:06] <givello> Bashing-om: did you mean pts on the corresponging line?
[22:06] <givello> at the end
[22:06] <studentttu> squinty:  how did they get 120hz?
[22:07] <givello> Bashing-om: from experience for network I'll have to hard code the resolv.conf file but I'll make sure it does
[22:07] <Ben64> studentttu: what video card do you have
[22:07] <IslandUsurper> in gufw, if a line in the listening report is red, that means any connection to that port is blocked, right?
[22:07] <Bashing-om> givello: "sudo umount /mnt/dev/pts" is the correct line /// ??
[22:07] <givello> Bashing-om: no, I meant sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pt
[22:07] <givello> I believe it's missing an s
[22:08] <Finetundra> what DE has the lowest requirements
[22:08] <Finetundra> ?
[22:08] <Bashing-om> givello: No on hard coding ! this line " sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/run " will take care of the missing symlinks .
[22:09] <studentttu> Ben64:  geforce 780ti
[22:09] <Bashing-om> givello: sheesshh .. should be " sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts " ..
[22:09] <k1l> Finetundra: lxde
[22:10] <givello> Bashing-om: indeed, it worked
[22:10] <Ben64> studentttu: nvidia binary drivers?
[22:10] <k1l> Finetundra: (from the big ones. there are a lot more minimal ones)
[22:10] <givello> Bashing-om: starting X with sudo startx -- :0 doesn't quite work, though, but the output is interesting
[22:10] <givello> Bashing-om: let me copy that over to you, I think we got it
[22:11] <EriC^^> givello: i don't think you need sudo to startx
[22:11] <Scyzor> hi ppl :)
[22:11] <EriC^^> that might actually cause issues
[22:11] <studentttu> Ben64:  okay im downloading them. do you happend to know how to remove mouse acceleration?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> givello: NO ! startx is guaranteed to have problems unless the Environment is set up to ONLY accept that .. what DM are you running ?
[22:11] <Ben64> startx isnt the right way to start x either
[22:11] <Scyzor> anyone can show me a good redhat help forum?
[22:11] <Finetundra> k1l, yeah I know for a fact that I'll need something alot more minimal. thanks though
[22:11] <k1l> i am quite sure to told him some days ago that startx is wrong on ubuntu
[22:12] <Ben64> studentttu: don't download the drivers from nvidia
[22:12] <studentttu> Ben64:  oh what then?
[22:12] <givello> EriC^^: alright
[22:12] <Ben64> studentttu: use the addition drivers thing in the update manager
[22:12] <k1l> Scyzor: why would you ask that in a ubuntu support channel. this is just offtopic in here.
[22:12] <givello> Bashing-om: ok, I was using gdm but lightdm should also work
[22:12] <givello> Bashing-om: I'll need to kill X though first wait a sec
[22:13] <Scyzor> k1l dude, i'm a total n00b :P
[22:13] <Avic> anyone can tell me wow i start kubunto desktop in my ubuntu server?
[22:13] <Avic> anyone can tell me how i start kubunto desktop in my ubuntu server?
[22:13] <Scyzor> k1l well, not THAT n00b
[22:13] <EriC^^> Avic: do you have a desktop manager?
[22:13] <k1l> Avic: are you sure you want a desktop running on your server?
[22:13] <Avic> i have kubuntu and freenx
[22:13] <Bashing-om> givello: It would sure be nice if you tell us up front in the ubuntu channel that you are using something other than default .. GDM IS NOT lightdm .
[22:14] <k1l> !alis > Scyzor
[22:14] <givello> Bashing-om: my bad
[22:14] <Avic> i dont know EriC^^. Yes k11
[22:15] <Scyzor> k1l: tks
[22:15] <EriC^^> Avic: do you have lightdm installed?
[22:15] <givello> k1l: you did indeed, sorry I forgot
[22:15] <EriC^^> Avic: try sudo service lightdm start
[22:15] <Avic> no
[22:15] <vanizz_> Can I update my cryptsetup from 1.6.1 to 1.6.6 ?
[22:15] <k1l> Avic: why do you want a desktop running on a server?
[22:15] <studentttu> Ben64:  okay im reverting now
[22:15] <EriC^^> Avic: install lightdm if you want
[22:15] <studentttu> Does anyone know how to remove mouse acceleration in ubuntu?
[22:15] <Bashing-om> givello: OK, we can live over it .. I can bet that as you have used "startx" that the permissions and access to /home are all meesed up .
[22:15] <k1l> givello: what is the issue now?
[22:16] <Avic> Eric^^: start: Job is already running: lightdm
[22:16] <givello> k1l: a lot of stuff haha
[22:16] <vanizz_> service ligthdm start
[22:16] <EriC^^> Avic: ok, what does the screen show? try sudo service lightdm restart
[22:16] <givello> Bashing-om: sorry about that, I must admit I come from arch and it did actually work over tehre
[22:16] <Avic> I'm trying to use freenx-server + kubuntu. ok
[22:17] <vanizz_> if you want to restart the X you could try sudo pkill X
[22:17] <Avic> Ericc^^: sudo service lightdm restart
[22:17] <Avic> lightdm stop/waiting
[22:17] <Avic> lightdm start/running, process 6744
[22:17] <EriC^^> givello: if you want run find ~ -user root -exec sudo chown <youruser>: '{}' \;
[22:17] <Avic> Eric^^
[22:17] <EriC^^> givello: that should search for files owned by root and change the ownership to your username
[22:18] <studentttu> Ben64:  i have the nvidia drivers now, how do I switch hz?
[22:18] <k1l> givello: ubuntu is setup to work with a *dm and not startx. even if all other distros are ment to run with startx ubuntu is still setup to use a *dm.
[22:18] <givello> Bashing-om: anyhow, you might be interested in the error startx spouted, something about nvidia_someversion not being found. I did try to install nvidia-current yesterday night, and I think it might be related
[22:18] <Ben64> studentttu: use nvidia-settings
[22:19] <givello> EriC^^: will do
[22:19] <vanizz_> anyone knows how to update cryptsetup to the latest version ? I have ubuntu 14.04
[22:19] <k1l> vanizz_: find a PPA?
[22:20] <givello> Btw, any risks with fiddling with permission of files situated in a folder used in a chroot, from outside of it, while it runs?
[22:20] <Avic> Eric^^ Iḿ tryinf to use kubuntu desktop in the ubuntu with the freenx-server. i installed the server but i don't know how to configure it to start the KDE wen it starts. I dom't know if the desktop is up because i can't access it from the nomachine client. Eric^^
[22:20] <Bashing-om> givello: All things are related .. for sure .. the PS is not a single intity .. when we get back to the install we might try and start the terminal with the default fall back driver.Then consider installing a driver (open source !) .
[22:21] <alteregoa> how to change to systemd with unihorn, just install systemd?
[22:21] <studentttu> Ben64:  do I need to boot first? im quite newbie. i wrote nvidia-settings to terminal but there was nothing that i could see as refresh rate or such
[22:22] <Ben64> studentttu: did nvidia-settings pop up?
[22:22] <EriC^^> Avic: ok, is the x forwarding correct? i think if you restart lightdm it should show on the screen
[22:22] <vanizz_> k1l  do you have any experience using cryptsetup ? I am having trouble decrypting a swap partition using a keyfile
[22:22] <Blizzy> well, I can't install Ubuntu on VirtualBox.
[22:22] <Blizzy> :L
[22:22] <givello> Bashing-om: Id rather not use the open source driver, unless it evolved enough to deal with games on a 770
[22:22] <studentttu> Ben64:  NVIDIA X Server Settings, pops up when I write it
[22:22] <Avic> Eric^^: lightdm start/running, process 6744 ---this means the desktop is up?
[22:22] <studentttu> Ben64:  which is probably not what i want
[22:22] <Ben64> studentttu: that is exactly what you want
[22:22] <EriC^^> Avic: i think so
[22:22] <k1l> vanizz_: even on 15.04 its the 1.61 version. so are you sure you need that 1.66 version?
[22:23] <studentttu> Ben64:  so what do I do there?
[22:23] <EriC^^> Avic: you could try startx if you want
[22:23] <k1l> Blizzy: why not?
[22:23] <EriC^^> just this once
[22:23] <givello> Bashing-om: anyhow, should I run sudo service gdm restart? or maybe lightdm?
[22:23] <bynarie> studentttu, whats the problem now buddy?
[22:23] <Ben64> studentttu: change the resolution, refresh rate, or anything you want
[22:23] <Avic> give serrors
[22:23] <Bashing-om> k1l: I am going to steal your '*dm' expalanation .. and put it in my notes !
[22:23] <studentttu> Ben64:  theres no option for that
[22:23] <k1l> Bashing-om: :)
[22:23] <Blizzy> k1l, because, I keep getting an error everytime I try to install Ubuntu.
[22:23] <studentttu> bynarie:  im trying to get my screen HZ to 144hz or 120 atleast. now its 60hz
[22:23] <freijon> the open drivers work fairly well, I can play 3D games with pretty good graphics
[22:23] <k1l> Blizzy: what error?
[22:24] <EriC^^> Avic: nevermind
[22:24] <Ben64> studentttu: its under display configuration
[22:24] <givello> Bashing-om: knowing that I obviously already have an X server running seeing as this is a chroot on this very system
[22:24] <Bashing-om> givello: I do not know yet about lightdm/gdm; what return -> echo $DESKTOP_SESSION <- ??
[22:24] <studentttu> Ben64:  I dont have those, I only have application profiles and nvidia-setting configurations
[22:24] <givello> Bashing-om: so not sure how to emulate the -- :1 option on startx
[22:25] <Blizzy> k1l, http://gyazo.com/66a7371f07c16f7e2b624c9fb2e1a22e
[22:25] <vanizz_> k1l no not realy I dont know to decrypt my partition using a keyfile that I have but crypt setup says Failed to open key file.
[22:25] <Ben64> studentttu: you need to restart then
[22:25] <Avic> Eric^^: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[22:25] <Avic> xinit: giving up
[22:25] <Avic> xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
[22:25] <k1l> vanizz_: sorry i am not familiar with that
[22:25] <studentttu> Ben64:  yeah  ill do it
[22:25] <Bashing-om> givello: Startx ? the source of all your problems ? Why are we still on that ?
[22:26] <givello> Bashing-om: stupid auestion, but where is that character before DESKTOP SESSION on an american keyboard again?
[22:26] <k1l> Blizzy: yep, that is a bad sign. are you sure its a right ubuntu.iso?
[22:26] <studentttu> bynarie:  do u happend to know how to get rid of mouse acceleration?
[22:26] <Blizzy> yes, k1l.
[22:26] <Avic> its nx, not x forwarding
[22:26] <Blizzy> I've tried 2 .iso
[22:26] <Blizzy> one 14.04, the other 14.10.
[22:26] <Finetundra_> givello, shift+4
[22:26] <k1l> Blizzy: what is the exact name of iso?
[22:26] <givello> Bashing-om: I just meant to express that I didn't know if gdm or lightdm knew how to deal with multiple X instances running
[22:26] <givello> Finetundra_: thanks
[22:27] <bynarie> nope
[22:27] <Blizzy> ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386
[22:27] <Bashing-om> givello: That character is an upper case 4 (dollar sign) on an ascii keyboard .
[22:27] <bynarie> first of all do u have correct video drivers installws
[22:27] <bynarie> installed
[22:27] <Finetundra_> givello, np
[22:27] <k1l> Blizzy: hmm. did you change some settings of the vbox?
[22:27] <Bashing-om> givello: Ether environment will deal with X, we just have to tell it what we are dealing with.
[22:28] <studentttu> Ben64:  i got it thanks :)
[22:28] <Blizzy> k1l, no.
[22:28] <Blizzy> the VM boots from the .ISO.
[22:28] <Blizzy> *VBox.
[22:28] <givello> Bashing-om: no value for that environment variable I'm afraid
[22:29] <navetz> can someone help me fix my mysql server
[22:29] <navetz> i tried to upgrade but the upgrade failed
[22:30] <navetz> here is my error: http://pastebin.com/ivUBzY3M
[22:31] <studentttu> thanks for helping me bynarie,  Ben64 , Bashing-om, celero (?)    :))) i will come bother u again haha
[22:32] <vanizz_> k1l do you know anywhere to look because I dont seem to find much information on the subject with a google search
[22:34] <k1l> no
[22:34] <Bashing-om> givello: " no value for that environment " as I live and learn. lemme see what I can do to come up with an alternate menas to know what the environment is. Hang on.
[22:34] <givello> Bashing-om: I ;eqnm it4s returning q blqnk line
[22:35] <givello> Bashing-om: a crap qwerty fail
[22:35] <givello> Bashing-om: I mean, it's returning a blank line
[22:41] <lotuspsychje> how come pstree still shows cups running after disabling it in update-rc.d?
[22:42] <givello> Bashing-om: I can save you some time, though, I use gnome and gdm, I'm positive about that
[22:42] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Because it is still running. You just disabled autostarting it.
[22:42] <lotuspsychje> bekks: how can i completly remove it?
[22:43] <dawson> anyone know how to fix a missing java runtime 1.1.1 message for .exe files (wine)?
[22:43] <givello> Bashing-om: brb loo
[22:43] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Just stop the service, using the "service" command.
[22:43] <after_r> Hello... so does anyone know how to make the Radiance theme in ubuntu 14.10 have a thin border around the window instead of a shadow??
[22:43] <bekks> dawson: JAva 1.1.1? Thats more than just outdated.
[22:43] <dawson> yeah i know but thats what its saying in the dialouge box
[22:44] <lotuspsychje> bekks: will it not restart next boot?
[22:44] <dawson> i just need to know how to get some form of it :D
[22:44] <bekks> lotuspsychje: I dont know what you did, but you said you disabled that.
[22:44] <navetz> can anyone help me get my mysql-server working? It is failing during an install.
[22:44] <bekks> dawson: java.sun.com
[22:44] <navetz> http://pastebin.com/ivUBzY3M
[22:45] <lotuspsychje> bekks: i disabled it with the manually remove from update-rc.d to prevent it to start at boot
[22:45] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Yes, so it will not start at next boot.
[22:45] <lotuspsychje> bekks: and still it shows in pstree
[22:45] <dawson> bekks: i get what to do for that part and i hava java 8 installed
[22:46] <dawson> bekks: but wine isnt accepting the java i have apparently and refuses to recognize it
[22:46] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Yes. Because it is still running. You disabled autostart at next boot for it.
[22:46] <bekks> dawson: Yeah, because Java 1.1.1 is so old, that even Oracle wont ship it anymore.
[22:46] <Bashing-om> givello: When you return, let's see what the system thinks you are using for a DM -> cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager <- .
[22:46] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, it is simple, put cups on manual http://askubuntu.com/a/452304
[22:47] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lemem check
[22:47] <dawson> bekks: but that doesnt help me at all im asking how to fix the error in the dialouge box
[22:47] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, unless you remove cups
[22:47] <bekks> dawson: You need to install Java 1.1.1 - which is so old that it isnt available anymore.
[22:47] <givello> Bashing-om: /usr/sbin/gdm
[22:47] <Sheepolution> Hi
[22:48] <Avenger> hi
[22:48] <dawson> bekks: look you have said that 3 times already i need to know HOW to get a java runtime version
[22:48] <Sheepolution> Crowded place here
[22:48] <dawson> bekks: i dont care what version i dont care what brand i just need a java runtime version
[22:48] <bekks> dawson: It is SO aold there is no download option anymore for it.
[22:48] <bekks> dawson: It is outdated. Its life ended. It is gone.
[22:48] <dawson> bekks: OMG
[22:49] <dawson> bekks: LISTEN IM ASKING HOW TO GET SOMETHING LIKE IT NOT HOW TO GET A POS THING THATS 5 GAJILLION YEARS OLD
[22:49] <Bashing-om> givello: As in the CHroot environment the system seems intact, you want to now try again and see if we can get to a terminal when boot ing the install ? see what results when booting with the fall back driver ?
[22:49] <bekks> dawson: Stop shouting.
[22:49] <Sheepolution> I have a problem. I'll try to summarize it as best as I can.
[22:49] <dawson> then listen!
[22:49] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: so if i understand right, upstart overrides update-rc.d?
[22:49] <bekks> dawson: talk to my ignore list. *plonk*
[22:49] <dawson> cool
[22:49] <dawson> thanks for the "support"
[22:49] <dawson> anyone else know how to get java runtime?
[22:50] <hellpe> hello
[22:50] <after_r> anyone have any ideas?
[22:50] <givello> Bashing-om: I will try again, sure, but just to let you know: last time I couldn't chose the option to boot with the fallback driver
[22:51] <hellpe> I've put Xubuntu 14.10 on a USB drive using mkusb, but it won't boot on my Asus EeePC
[22:51] <givello> Bashing-om: it means going in the grub submenu and selecting the alternative option to the kernel you want, then selecting the correct option in the menu that pops up, right?
[22:51] <hellpe> even if the removable media is set to boot first in the BIOS
[22:51] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, as far as i understand, this setting in  /etc/init/cups.conf  is preventing upstart yes
[22:51] <Bashing-om> givello: Humm .. will not hurt a thing if we try and re-configure the x-server .. wanna see what results ? while we are still in the CHroot .
[22:51] <givello> Bashing-om: because if so, it freezes on the screen with all the options in a list to fix the system
[22:52] <Sheepolution> Suddenly, I couldn't get on pavucontrol (failed to connect error), and pulseaudio didn't work on Skype anymore.
[22:52] <Sheepolution>  Now I have reinstalled pulseaudio, restarted my computer. I can: Listen to audio on my computer. I can not: Open pavucontrol (connection error), use my microphone, hear anything on Skype.
[22:52] <givello> Bashing-om: right
[22:52] <Bluefoxicy> Are YouTube videos not playing at all on Ubuntu 14.10, Chromium browser?
[22:52] <Bluefoxicy> they don't play at all for me.
[22:52] <Sheepolution> And now I have no idea what to do
[22:52] <givello> Bashing-om: lets do that
[22:52] <OerHeks> !flash
[22:52] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Sheepolution
[22:52] <Bluefoxicy> It just shows the first frame, a loading bar--which fills up as the video downloads--but doesn't start playback
[22:52] <OerHeks> Bluefoxicy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Installing_Pepper_Flash_for_Chromium
[22:52] <Bluefoxicy> OerHeks:  it doesn't use flash
[22:52] <hellpe> (I'm currentlu
[22:53] <Bashing-om> givello: -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- from the chroot .
[22:53] <Bluefoxicy> OerHeks:  besides that, Flash is working in that browser.
[22:53] <Bashing-om> givello: Yuk ! no sudo !!
[22:53] <Bluefoxicy> For what that's worth, since Flash is nigh on useless
[22:53] <givello> Bashing-om: will do
[22:54] <Bluefoxicy> So anyway, again
[22:54] <Bluefoxicy> Are YouTube videos not playing at all on Ubuntu 14.10, Chromium browser?
[22:54] <givello> Bashing-om: I didn't run su to get in my user so I'm still logged in as root on the chroot anyway
[22:54] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: the do work in general
[22:54] <Bashing-om> givello: s/b ->  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <- .
[22:54] <Bluefoxicy> k1l: well zero of them are working for me.
[22:55] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: got pepperflash?
[22:55] <givello> Bashing-om: no output
[22:55] <Bluefoxicy> k1l:  I'm not using flash.
[22:55] <Bluefoxicy> Youtube videos are not flash.
[22:55] <givello> Bashing-om: But no error either
[22:55] <Bluefoxicy> They are HTML5 Canvas
[22:55] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: no
[22:55] <bekks> Bluefoxicy: Most YT videos still use flash.
[22:56] <OerHeks> not all of them
[22:56] <Bluefoxicy> bekks: well every single Youtube video I've watched since I've had 14.04 hsa been html5
[22:57] <Bluefoxicy> when i right click, there is an option to "Get video URL at current time", and "About HTML5 Player"
[22:57] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: is vlc playing videos well?
[22:57] <bekks> You havent watched many videos then ;)
[22:57] <Bashing-om> givello: Humm, not what I expected " no output" .. I had expected a wizard to start, but I caould have my wires crossed .
[22:57] <Bluefoxicy> bekks:  RWBY, random music uploads, DIY stuff, about 200 TASes
[22:58] <givello> Bashing-om: same
[22:58] <Bluefoxicy> clips of old TV shows
[22:58] <OERIAS> Shell Shock
[22:58] <OERIAS> I need to patch
[22:58] <OERIAS> can anyone here help?
[22:58] <k1l> OERIAS: no. just run the updates
[22:58] <OERIAS> k1l, I did
[22:58] <OERIAS> no luck
[22:58] <OERIAS> i'm on14.10
[22:58] <k1l> OERIAS: 14.10?
[22:59] <OERIAS> Yes
[22:59] <v_> I started installing playonlinux from software center a while ago. I am on slow 3g internet. Then during that install I did sudo apt-get install w3m on terminal but it said admin things were locked. I forgot I had software center running. Now I go back to software center and it is black and white colored the whole app, and I'm not really sure if it is installing or if it froze
[22:59] <givello> Bashing-om: what's more, I see nothing in dpkg.log
[22:59] <k1l> that is patched
[22:59] <Bluefoxicy> why did everything break after upgrading to 14.10
[22:59] <Bluefoxicy> Gnome-shell now pauses everything for 3-5 seconds when I touch Activities
[22:59] <Bluefoxicy> occasionally it freezes entirely
[22:59] <k1l> OERIAS: what does make you think its not patched?
[22:59] <Bluefoxicy> Chromium doesn't play HTML5 video anymore, for unknown reasons.
[23:00] <samthewildone> !vpn
[23:00] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: its working just fine here. so not a general issue. are you sure you have peperflash?
[23:00] <OERIAS> k1l, I type this: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c 'echo hello'
[23:00] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: and are sure you have the other codecs=?
[23:00] <Bluefoxicy> k1l:  for the last friggin' time, IT'S NOT FLASH.
[23:00] <Bluefoxicy> k1l:  flash is not loaded on this page.  AT ALL.
[23:00] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: for the last friggin time: its working for me, so lets see what its cause is
[23:00] <Bluefoxicy> If I right click in the middle of the video
[23:00] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: start chromium from terminal, see what errors you get
[23:01] <azashog> Hi guys. Can anyone tell me what does "Automatically from the Internet" option in the Time&Date settings do? Because my time is wrong...
[23:01] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: if you think you are the linux guru and know all how come mine 14.10 just works and yours is broken?
[23:01] <Bluefoxicy> you know, the big square box that shows a picture, a play/pause button, a ROCKET, a volume bar, and says it's 360p
[23:01] <Bluefoxicy> it gives me a menu that syas "about the HTML5 player"
[23:01] <Bluefoxicy> which takes me https://www.youtube.com/html5
[23:01] <Bluefoxicy> which shows 6 little blue checkmarks and says it should work
[23:01] <v_> k1l: you have different hardware?
[23:01] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: you sure your 14.10 didnt update video driver or something?
[23:02] <Bluefoxicy> k1l:  your question is incongruous.  You keep saying "what version of flash is installed?" and I'm not using flash.
[23:02] <k1l> Bluefoxicy: ok,gl fixing that.
[23:02] <Bluefoxicy> that's like I say "Chromium isn't rendering ubuntu.com correctly" and you say "what version of Firefox?"
[23:02] <pope523> I just installed Ubuntu from an image I downloaded yesterday. After a few minutes of using it, everything but the wallpaper and the mouse cursor disappeared from the screen. Rebooting does not bring it back. When I right click, the context menu flashes for half a second then disappears for a few seconds and flashes again, ad infinitum. Help please?
[23:02] <Bluefoxicy> it's not flash, it's not GOING to be flash, it's HTML5, it works in 14.04, it doesn't work now.
[23:03] <Bluefoxicy> if I went to a mechanic to ask why my Mazda was making strange tapping noises, and he started talking about Honda motors, I would tell him he must have a head injury and a defective brain.
[23:03] <OERIAS> k1l, when typing this command: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c 'echo hello'
[23:03] <OERIAS> I get a hello
[23:03] <k1l> OERIAS: hello is fine
[23:04] <k1l> OERIAS: vulnerable would be bad
[23:04] <OERIAS> k1l, if it were vulnerable, what would it say?
[23:04] <phix> Wow, you guys are busy, there is a ubuntu update almost twice a day
[23:04] <Andreas> hello! Just installed ubuntu, new to this. I have an UEFI motherboard, so selected the UEFI-usb drive when booting into USB. but after the install GRUB does not come, it go straight to windows 8
[23:04] <k1l> OERIAS: "vulnerable"
[23:04] <OERIAS> Oh i see
[23:04] <OERIAS> thank k1l
[23:04] <spaztik> Andreas: your bios should give you the option to change boot order, or a keystroke to press upon booting to select
[23:05] <OERIAS> *Thank you k1l
[23:05] <Bashing-om> givello: doing a bit of homework, see maybe that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " is now depreciated. still researching .. be back soonest.
[23:05] <lotuspsychje> Andreas: did you disable secureboot in bios?
[23:05] <Andreas> change boot order? to the USB?
[23:05] <Andreas> but I have already installed
[23:05] <k1l> np
[23:05] <Andreas> urm, I disabled it a long time ago I think
[23:05] <Andreas> I can check again, but then I'll need to reboot
[23:06] <lotuspsychje> Andreas: might also help to set to legacy instead of uefi for ubuntu
[23:06] <Andreas> how do I do that?
[23:06] <EriC^^> Andreas: boot a live usb
[23:06] <EriC^^> and come back here
[23:06] <lotuspsychje> Andreas: you want dualboot or singleboot?
[23:06] <Andreas> dual
[23:06] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Andreas
[23:06] <xTorettox1> hi!
[23:06] <givello> Bashing-om: thank you so much for your help
[23:06] <givello> Bashing-om: I really appreciate it
[23:07] <xTorettox1> hi, can I get some newbie help? :)
[23:07] <lotuspsychje> xTorettox1: ask away
[23:07] <Foxhoundz> how can I configure xrdp to remote desktop into my Ubuntu
[23:09] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje: no errors come out of the terminal.
[23:09] <azashog> So any ideas what does "Automatically from the Internet" option in the Time&Date settings do? Is it ntp? What service does it, because ntpd is not installed...
[23:09] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje:  I'm sure the 14.10 release comes with a new Xorg that updates the graphics driver for Intel HD Graphics chipsets.
[23:09] <k1l> azashog: yes it is some ntp service
[23:10] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: did you check additional drivers section of anything changed?
[23:10] <spaztik> ntpdate
[23:10] <azashog> k1l: and by "some" you mean? What process does it?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> givello: I see one post of -reconfigure failure in respect to changed permissions of .Xauthority and .ICEauthority . what returns -> ls -al ~/.Xauthority . la -al ~/.ICEauthority <- ?
[23:10] <xTorettox1> this is it: i installed 14.04 but I have some problems to get drivers for my samsung netbook, so I basically have no video card, therefore, I got enlightenment (e17). Later, I saw there was e19 to install but there are no ppa working repositories yet, so I downloaded every package listed there, but I don't  know how to get them installed now
[23:10] <spaztik> azashog: ntpdate
[23:10] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje: no proprietary drivers are in use
[23:10] <azashog> spaztik: no such process is running, and time is severely off...
[23:10] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: vlc video works good?
[23:11] <Ben64> azashog: install ntp
[23:11] <spaztik> azashog: might be a cronjob or something
[23:11] <azashog> Ben64: I know, I was just asking what the "Automatic" did in the clock setting
[23:11] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: other browsers play youtubes?
[23:11] <k1l> azashog: what if its not ntp daemon?
[23:11] <Ben64> azashog: makes it automatic, when you have ntp
[23:11] <Bluefoxicy> VLC plays fine, no sound though.
[23:11] <azashog> Ben64: because default ubuntu 14.04 install does not seem to run any time syncing process despite the config. Is it a bug?
[23:11] <Ben64> azashog: possibly
[23:12] <azashog> ok, thanks.
[23:12] <spaztik> actually doing an ack-grep shows it in /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate
[23:12] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[23:12] <spaztik> so when your interface is brought up, it runs
[23:12] <bekks> azashog: It isnt a bug, because you have to configure NTP to be used, if you didnt do that during the installation.
[23:12] <azashog> spaztik: but why is my time severely off then? Installed proper ntpd and it is now fine.
[23:12] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje:  the video driver is the in-kernel open source Intel HD that's built into Core i5 CPUs, and the audio is SoundBlaster Audigy2
[23:12] <spaztik> azashog: is it off by hours or minutes?
[23:13] <spaztik> if hours, it's likely you don't have your timezone set properly
[23:13] <azashog> bekks: I think it's a bug because the setting is misleading, I thought ntpd was running until I discovered it wasn't.
[23:13] <azashog> spaztik: minutes.
[23:13] <givello> Bashing-om: let me check
[23:13] <Ben64> azashog: i ran into the same issue after i installed 14.04
[23:13] <nirrrrv> Hello, can anyone advice me with my issue? My desktop (literally) does't work on Ubuntu 13.04 after latest updates. Wallpaper is glitched or some graphic nonsense is shown. Every time I click on desktop Ubuntu freezes for a while until I rapidly click Alt+Tab or Unity launcher.
[23:13] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: might be a 14.10 bug maybe
[23:13] <bekks> azashog: Well, the setting (checkbox) during install is disabled by default - so is ntpd.
[23:13] <nirrrrv> sorry, Ubuntu 14.04
[23:14] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje:  installing ubuntu-restricted-extras gets me fluendo MP3 (I already had an mp3 player...) and doesn't fix Chromium playing the built-in, non-patented WebM videos Youtube is sending.
[23:14] <azashog> bekks: I don't know, all I know is the installer asked if I wanted automatic time from the 'net, I clicked that and thought it was syncing. Turns out it wasn't. The cake is a lie :)
[23:14] <spaztik> azashog: not sure it's a bug, it hasn't updated in 5 years... I'm sure it'd be reported by now
[23:14] <spaztik> azashog: have you checked your RTC battery?
[23:14] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: im just helping doublecheck possabilities
[23:14] <givello> Bashing-om: the tilde leads to /home/ubuntu which doesn't exist
[23:15] <Sheepolution> Ṕroblem: I don't have a login manager. I have Slim installed, but when starting my computer, it goes straight to my i3.
[23:15] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: you got it installed or not?
[23:15] <givello> Bashing-om: so I can't execute that
[23:15] <Bashing-om> givello: OK, waiting on the ls commands, and also, what results -> dpkg -l xserver-xorg <- so we know what and the state of what we are working with.
[23:15] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje:  I installed it and tried it.  It didn't help.
[23:15] <Sheepolution> I kinda ignored the problem but now I want to use Unity or Gnome to configure certain stuff, and I have no idea how to get my login screen back :S
[23:15] <xTorettox> hi again
[23:15] <xTorettox> got dc
[23:15] <givello> Bashing-om: I guess it should be /root/.XAuthority
[23:15] <azashog> spaztik: that's irrelevant, my problem was Ubuntu telling me it's syncing time and it wasn't.
[23:16] <givello> Or /home/myusername/
[23:16] <spaztik> givello: check /etc/passwd to fix it
[23:16] <k1l> Sheepolution: install lightdm
[23:16] <givello> Bashing-om: I can su into my username if that helps
[23:16] <Sheepolution> k1l: I seem to have that as well
[23:16] <Sheepolution> k1l: Would a try on reinstalling do anything?
[23:16] <givello> spaztik: check it for my username? I know it
[23:17] <lotuspsychje> Bluefoxicy: maybe this can help? http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/10/enable-flash-chromium-browser-ubuntu-14-10/
[23:17] <k1l> Sheepolution: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[23:17] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje:  cool, I can enable flash and continue to have broken HTML5 WebM
[23:17] <neldogz> Hi all, I have noticed intermittent issues mounting my partitions specified in the /etc/fstab file during bootup on a Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS system. It first started with issues mounting the encrypted swap which i replaced with an unencrypted swap partition and now bootup is complaining about an NTFS partition. The error is "The disk drive for /media/user1/partition1 is not ready or not present: Continue to wait, or press S to skip mounting o
[23:17] <neldogz> r M for manual recovery.
[23:17] <k1l> Sheepolution: or get to know what you changed back then and undo that changes
[23:17] <Bluefoxicy> lotuspsychje:  I am not trying to solve flash.  Flash is working.  I can go to terrible web sites that use Flash videos and play flash videos in Chromium.  They work.
[23:17] <xTorettox> ok, so I need some help manually installing downloaded packages to get the latest version of enlightenment, since there is no other way to install them yet
[23:17] <Bluefoxicy> I cannot use HTML5 and WEBM
[23:18] <neldogz> has anyone experienced this problem?
[23:18] <spaztik> givello: no, that's where home paths are defined
[23:18] <Bluefoxicy> Anything having to do with Flash is irrelevant.
[23:18] <Sheepolution> k1l: I see, I got to choose between the ones I installed.
[23:18] <Sheepolution> k1l: Now I have selected Slim, so I will give that a try.
[23:18] <givello> spaztik: right, but those are the default ones, /root for root and /home/myusername for myusermane
[23:19] <spaztik> givello: those are ALL users on your system, not just "default"
[23:19] <spaztik> example: klrspz:x:1000:1000:Real Name,,,:/home/klrspz:/bin/zsh
[23:20] <osdx> OK guys I'm a lil stumped here. I'm installing Win 7 and xubuntu 14.04 w/ full encryption ecryptfs etc. My issue is, when I install win first using say 10% of my drive, then when I install xubuntu I don't have the option for full encryption in the install GUI, they are grayed out.
[23:20] <osdx> What's the best way to go here? With win installed already, should I install without full disk encryption and then config it manually afterwards? Wipe the whole disk,, shrink the encrypted partition,, install win,, reconfig grub2 blah?
[23:20] <givello> spaztik: I know what /etc/passwd is used for, I think, and I'm not sure of your point
[23:20] <azashog> osdx: you have to manually setup partitions
[23:21] <spaztik> givello: you're saying your user's home dir doesn't exist... it's defined in that file...
[23:21] <osdx> azashog, I did, but didn't confirm the option to encrypt them during install.
[23:21] <xTorettox> ok, so i need help too, who's in charge here? :P
[23:21] <azashog> osdx: you use the "other" option in the installer, can't remember now exactly how it was phrased, but I believe it was last
[23:21] <givello> anyhow, if Bashing-om meant the home of my main user, the permissions of those two files are 600 and the owner and groups are set to my main user
[23:21] <k1l> xTorettox: read the readme or install instructions on the site you got that packages from
[23:21] <azashog> osdx: when it asks about partitioning I mean
[23:22] <osdx> azashog, In the GUI I got through the manual partitioner and to the time and name config etc
[23:22] <azashog> osdx: you have to prepare the partitions outside of the installer
[23:22] <givello> spaztik: thing is it's a chroot and I think the system is confused into thinking my user is ubuntu, which is the default of the live env and not my real user
[23:22] <givello> spaztik: though I can sudo into it fine
[23:22] <givello> spaztik: which is weird
[23:23] <givello> spaztik: I mean, su into it
[23:23] <xTorettox> k1l:it doesn't say a thing, they assume that I know how to install packages
[23:23] <azashog> osdx: for instance, I used parted for the gtp layout, encrypted root with cryptfs and set up lvm on it, then the mounted, active lvols were available in the installer to assign mount points and fstypes
[23:23] <azashog> osdx: *gpt I mean
[23:23] <quidnunc> Can someone tell me what the command for gnome sound control is? I don't have it listed in the control panel
[23:23] <azashog> osdx: and cryptsetup :) lol...
[23:23] <spaztik> ahhh, ok wasn't aware of that part.... hmm.... only thing i can think of is the /chroot/etc/passwd has that in there?
[23:23] <k1l> xTorettox: what is the name of that package?
[23:23] <givello> spaztik: in the end, my user home dir exists, the tilde shortcut is just broken somehow
[23:24] <givello> spaztik: it's not the subject anyway
[23:24] <spaztik> givello: what does echo $HOME do in the chroot?
[23:24] <xTorettox> k1l: there are several to get enlightenment 0.19 installed, first of them is efl-1.11.4
[23:24] <k1l> what file ending?
[23:25] <andreas> Hello again! I tried turning secure boot off, but I could not find it. it is how ever apparantly off as windows cant find any UEFI settings via boot repair.
[23:25] <xTorettox> tar.gz, but I already decompressed'em
[23:25] <givello> Bashing-om: anyay, the result is that the permission of those two files are set to 600 and the owner and groups are my main user
[23:25] <k1l> xTorettox: i bet its a README in there :)
[23:25] <andreas> Ubuntu still wont boot. It just boots into windows 8 without going into GRUB
[23:25] <xTorettox> thanks buddie, I'll give it a try
[23:25] <givello> spaztik: /home/ubuntu as I expected, not sure why the chroot doesn't change this env var
[23:25] <spaztik> lame :/
[23:26] <xTorettox> I'm pretty sure I'll come back later xD
[23:26] <spaztik> givello: is there maybe something in a default profile or the user's profile changing it?
[23:26] <spaztik> givello: in the root of your chroot, try grep -inHr "home/ubuntu" *
[23:26] <spaztik> that'll search file contents for that string
[23:26] <andreas> any one? I cant get Ubuntu to boot after install, no GRUB, secure boot dissabled
[23:26] <andreas> booted the USB into UEFI mode
[23:27] <azashog> andreas: that on single disk?
[23:27] <andreas> yes azashog
[23:27] <LashtonsBabe716> What is this??
[23:27] <andreas> win8 installed first, then ubuntu
[23:27] <osdx> azashog, I think that's the route I'm going to try.
[23:27] <lotuspsychje> andreas: make your life easy and install ubuntu single :p
[23:27] <azashog> andreas: ouch... I don't know then, you have to replace windows' boot loader if I'm not mistaken, something I wouldn't dare do wrt EFI
[23:28] <andreas> no lotuspsychje, I need windows too
[23:28] <osdx> azashog, Have a particular link/lit to help me out?
[23:28] <azashog> andreas: it was cheaper for me to get another disk and dualboot each on its own :D
[23:28] <osdx> azashog, Obliged btw.
[23:28] <andreas> azashog: would that help?
[23:28]  * lotuspsychje hates freaking dualboot nightmares
[23:29] <andreas> I do have an extra SSD somewhere, but I need rails and a wire for it
[23:29] <azashog> osdx: quick googling returns this, looks legit   http://www.helsinki.fi/~jalaaman/lvmluks.html
[23:29] <osdx> I need windows to boot from disk unfortunately.
[23:29] <spaztik> andreas: velcro works great for that :P
[23:29] <pope523> Can someone help me please?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> givello: .Xauthority and .ICEauthority are good, what about the state -> dpkg -l xserver-xorg <- ?
[23:30] <lotuspsychje> !ask | pope523
[23:30] <azashog> andreas: well, I rather do two disks instead of risking breaking something with efi. could be dead easy to do single disk, but the price of another just wasn't worth the trouble for me
[23:30] <andreas> dont have velcro either ):
[23:30] <osdx> I'll need serial adapters,, hub blah,, don't play well w/ VB or vmware.
[23:30] <lotuspsychje> andreas: you can virtualbox windows from ubuntu
[23:30] <bekks> osdx: Serial adapters work fine here, with vbox.
[23:30] <azashog> pope523: about what?
[23:31] <andreas> lotuspsychje: I know, but I dont want to code in virtualbox, and teach the rest of the family to live with virtualbox
[23:31] <pope523> I just installed Ubuntu from an image I downloaded yesterday. After a few minutes of using it, everything but the wallpaper and the mouse cursor disappeared from the screen. Rebooting does not bring it back. When I right click, the context menu flashes for half a second then disappears for a few seconds and flashes again, ad infinitum. Help please?
[23:31] <lotuspsychje> pope523: try failsafeX from recoverymode at grub boot
[23:32] <givello> Bashing-om: it doesn't seem to know of that option, that prints the help
[23:32] <givello> Bashing-om: whish doesn't list that option
[23:32] <pope523> lotuspsychje: I asked half an hour aggo.
[23:32] <lotuspsychje> !patience | pope523
[23:33] <azashog> osdx: just keep in mind that the trick is for installer to SEE activated luks partition and lvm vg
[23:33] <pope523> lotuspsychje:  What do I do with failsafeX?
[23:33] <Bashing-om> givello: Wow, now " dpkg -l xserver-xorg " with no out put is absolutely not right .. copy and paste and try again ?
[23:33] <lotuspsychje> pope523: you can also try the 'fixbrokenpackages' from recoverymode
[23:34] <givello> Bashing-om: I didn't say that, I said it prints the help
[23:34] <lotuspsychje> pope523: try to boot graphics in failsafe mode
[23:34] <pope523> lotuspsychje: Can I do this fixbrokenpackages from an SSH session?
[23:34] <givello> Bashing-om: I can't copy and paste, it's in the ctrl alt F1 tty
[23:34] <lotuspsychje> pope523: you trying to fix a remote box?
[23:35] <Bashing-om> givello: with a lower case 'L'; should be -> ii  xserver-xorg   1:7.7+1ubunt amd64        X.Org X server .
[23:35] <givello> Bashing-om: and I also said that said help doesn't list the -l option
[23:35] <givello> Bashing-om: let me pipe that to a pastebin for you
[23:35] <pope523> lotuspsychje: Not exactly.
[23:36] <Bashing-om> givello: k
[23:36] <lotuspsychje> pope523: then you wont need ssh for it, just hold shift at boot for grub
[23:36] <osdx> bekks, Ah. I've had issues w/ the drivers/programs etc of serial adapters in particular.
[23:37] <givello> 8725625 on ubuntu paste
[23:37] <givello> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8725625/
[23:37] <Bashing-om> givello: look'n
[23:38] <bekks> osdx: I'm using some pretty cheap LogiLink AU0002E ones.
[23:39] <osdx> bekks, I haven't been able to get it to play right with syncing to fire/alarm panels and the like.
[23:39] <Bashing-om> givello: That appears to be an -reconfigure output, not the " dpkg -l xserver-xorg " .. All I can think of to make sense .
[23:40] <givello> Bashing-om: facepalming over here
[23:40] <givello> Bashing-om: my bad
[23:40] <Bashing-om> givello: tired, affravated, and frustrated, can do that to one.
[23:40] <Bashing-om> aggravated*
[23:41] <givello> 8725678
[23:41] <givello> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8725678/ if you want the link
[23:41] <pope523> lotuspsychje: It says it's in "low graphics mode" because it couldn't detect my graphics card
[23:42] <lotuspsychje> pope523: ok try to continue
[23:42] <PCworker> Hello everyone....I have an Acer 10 inch Tablet and it has Linux version 4.1.2 on it. I want to put Ubuntu on it and I haven't quite figured out how to do that. Anyone know how to do that?
[23:42] <bekks> PCworker: It has Android on it.
[23:42] <PCworker> bekks:yep
[23:42] <k1l> PCworker: so its a ARM SoC?
[23:43] <PCworker> bekks: it is approximately 4 years old. Has 32 gigs of space and is ready for a new OS.
[23:44] <PCworker> k11: So I have been told.
[23:44] <k1l> PCworker: on ARM, its not like you put a cd in and are good to go like on a PC. you will need to find a guy who already made the hard work on making a ubuntu working on that device
[23:44] <k1l> (or you do the work on your own, but its not a beginners task)
[23:45] <pope523> lotuspsychje: Which option? Continue in low graphics mode for one session?
[23:45] <lotuspsychje> pope523: yes, try to get to your desktop
[23:45] <PCworker> k11: I know. I have put Ubuntu on everything I own, including my cell phone, just not on the tablet yet.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> givello: Well xsrver-xorg is proper. Can you think of a reason why not to try and boot to erminal in the install at this time. As we can find no faults within the CHroot .
[23:46] <lotuspsychje> !touch | PCworker
[23:46] <xTorettox> as I predicted earlier, I'm back
[23:46] <somebody> Good night. I am getting an annoying crash while attempting to install 14.10 from a freshly made USB stick. According to Apport, the command on which it crashes is "noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash -- maybe-ubiquity". I have reported it on Launchpad, but I am also looking for a way to cirumvent this bug and install the system. Any competen
[23:46] <pope523> lotuspsychje: It says standby for one minute while the display restarts, then sends me back t the recovery menu
[23:46] <givello> Bashing-om: alright, let me try again. Ill be back in a few minutes
[23:46] <lotuspsychje> PCworker: check also the XDA forums for ubuntu on your device
[23:46] <givello> hopefully
[23:46] <xTorettox> got this error compiling:
[23:46] <xTorettox> "configure: error: efl requires a C++ compiler got  and g++."
[23:47] <xTorettox> how can I get that to work?
[23:47] <givello> Bashing-om: just to make sure
[23:47] <lotuspsychje> pope523: ok then try the fixbroken packages, might help your problem
[23:47] <givello> Bashing-om: what do you want me to try out before I come back
[23:47] <lotuspsychje> pope523: that option might take a while..
[23:47] <Bashing-om> givello: This time edit the boot command line, repalce quiet splash with nomodeset text .
[23:47] <Finetundra_> ata1.00: error: {ICRC ABRT} what does this mean?
[23:47] <givello> Bashing-om: that'll save me the trouble of reinstalling everything and reconnecting a few times
[23:48] <givello> Bashing-om: alright
[23:48] <givello> Bashing-om: any other test?
[23:48] <mybox1776> HI all -
[23:48] <Blizzy> I feel like buying a VPS just to learn Bash.
[23:49] <mybox1776> Can anyone explain to me why FLOPPY internal drives will not be detected in newest Version of UBUNTU?
[23:49] <PCworker> thank yall. going to look at the touch page.
[23:49] <mybox1776> I have tried everything - udisks, etc ---   disabled FLOPPY using modprobe
[23:49] <Bashing-om> givello: That "should" boot to TTY1 ! .. IF all on the right side of the booting screen is not OK see if you can get an idea of what the fail is .
[23:49] <lotuspsychje> PCworker: for now only nexus devices are supported for touch
[23:49] <somebody> According to bug #1296410, this is specific to installs attempted from a USB dongle created with the help of a Startup USB Creator.
[23:49] <osdx> azashog, Thank you I'm looking in to that.
[23:50] <givello> Bashing-om: okay, let me try then.
[23:50] <mybox1776> All the help I seem to get is being made fun of for using a floppy drive - I have data rom college in 91 I want back...
[23:50] <xTorettox> installing build-essential to get C and C++ compilers, hope that works
[23:50] <somebody> Assuming this thing is flawed, how else can I get an image to the USB stick? My new laptop doesn't have an optical drive.
[23:50] <PCworker> lotuspsychje: just saw that. Guess I will just buy one with it already installed.
[23:51] <fossediamond> Sidenote: (Sorry-) I'm currently setting up Ubuntu on a friend's laptop: An HP Pavillion 11 Smart-Touch. Upon having the laptop suspend, and then waking it up, wifi is disabled and won't turn on again... Anyone know of any possible causes?
[23:51] <lotuspsychje> PCworker: i run touch on my nexus7, works pretty nice!
[23:51] <mybox1776> http://pastebin.com/fckkSQfh   Any ideas>?
[23:51] <somebody> fossediamond: I might be able to help you find the bug # on that problem. You can google from there, I guess.
[23:52] <xTorettox> configure: error: efl requires a C++ compiler got  and g++.
[23:52] <xTorettox> configure: error: pkg-config missing openssl
[23:52] <pope523> lotuspsychje: I ran fix broken packages, it completed and then I tried to continue booting. I logged in and my desktop came up for just a moment, and then it disappeared again
[23:52] <somebody> fossediamond: Check this link, they have offered a few solutions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1286552
[23:52] <xTorettox> i'll just google that
[23:52] <PCworker> lotuspsychje: yeah, I have all my stuff linked together and I want my tablet linked as well.
[23:52] <xTorettox> thanks in advance for your later help
[23:52] <xTorettox> lol
[23:52] <lotuspsychje> pope523: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled?
[23:53] <fossediamond> Thank you, somebody!
[23:53] <pope523> lotuspsychje: YEs
[23:53] <lotuspsychje> PCworker: check the XDA forums, some guys might have a port for your device maybe
[23:53] <lotuspsychje> pope523: what kind of graphics card you have?
[23:54] <Bashing-om> pope523: At the login screen; key combo ctl+alt+F1 to obtain a console, can you log into the system from console ? Then if so we can "look" .
[23:54] <PCworker> lotuspsychje: I am. I will look around a bit to see if someone has an alternative option. Thanks for the info. See yall later.
[23:54] <pope523> lotuspsychje: Intel 82Q963/Q965
[23:55] <lotuspsychje> pope523: did any other ubuntu work for you on that card?
[23:55] <Finetundra_> ata1.00: error: {ICRC ABRT} i keep getting this error every few minutes. anyone know how to fix it?
[23:55] <pope523> Bbashing-om: Yes, I can do that. I installed sshd from command line so I wouldn't have to run up and down the stairs each step
[23:56] <givello> Bashing-om: It didn't work
[23:56] <pope523> lotuspsychje: I don't know what you mean by "other ubuntu", but I just bought this computer and this is the first thing I've done with it.
[23:56] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra_: ata might be hd problem? check the disk utility if your disk is healthy maybe
[23:56] <pzkpfw> Could anyone recommend GUI software to either encrypt container folders or partitions on an external hdd, for example? Thanks.
[23:56] <lotuspsychje> pope523: new or old computer?
[23:56] <pope523> lotuspsychje: HP dc7700
[23:57] <Bashing-om> givello: No errors generated to the screen, ? or maybe x-server is still not active ?? hummm .
[23:57] <lotuspsychje> pope523: and wich ubuntu version are you trying?
[23:57] <givello> Bashing-om: pressing e, then modifiying the linux line to replace quiet splash with nomodeset text, then pressing F10 gives me the same old purple screen
[23:57] <Finetundra_> lotuspsychje, how do i do that. my gui is a terminal by the way
[23:57] <givello> no text goes by, no error. complete hang up, can't even use magic keys to reboot
[23:57] <pope523> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64
[23:58] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: pope523 // .Xauthority , .ICEauthority permissions ?
[23:58] <lotuspsychje> pope523: maybe its best you stick with 14.04 for now
[23:59] <givello> Bashing-om: going in the alternative menu and selecting a recovery option gives me text flashing by, followed by the recovery screen, where it finally hangs
[23:59] <givello> Bashing-om: keyboard non responsive