[07:15] <soee> good morning
[09:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:28] <Riddell> hola chicos
[09:28] <Riddell> soee: pong
[09:40] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: did you manage to get anywhere with libkpeople yesterday?
[09:47] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Hi yes am making progress. 
[09:53] <Riddell> where did you get to?
[10:02] <soee> Riddell: you said yesterday that there are some problems with packaging kde-telepathy?
[10:05] <Riddell> soee: not problems just that it's a big task
[10:05] <Riddell> I got it all done for vivid except putting it in debian git and libkpeople which Sick_Rimmit is working on
[10:06] <Sick_Rimmit> Yes, I have a build almost working just got to get the KDE symbols patch to work properly
[10:06] <Sick_Rimmit> Then I will package for Vivid
[10:06] <Sick_Rimmit> Hope to get utopic build completed this evening, sgclark is helping me
[10:10] <Riddell> she's handy like that
[10:13] <soee> Riddell: cool, thanks
[10:28] <sgclark> morning
[10:28] <lordievader> Hey sgclark, how are you?
[10:28] <sgclark> good, yourself?
[10:30] <lordievader> Doing allright, got coffee :)
[10:30] <sgclark> me too!
[10:30] <lordievader> Well, no longer. Just finished it. Contemplating wether I should make another cup...
[10:39] <Riddell> don't do it! it'll be a slippery slope!
[10:42] <lordievader> Riddell: Does that really matter when it comes to coffee :P
[11:14] <Riddell> one day the coffee will run out and then what will you do!?
[11:15]  * sgclark gasps
[11:15] <sgclark> not get up this early lol
[11:18] <Quintasan> Man I broke redshift
[11:18] <Quintasan> Silly me
[11:23] <Riddell> sgclark: what's the status of qwt?
[11:27] <sgclark> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~sgclark/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu/+packages qt5 for utopic is done. source-missing is a doxygen thing I can't seem to sort. I am working on a vivid chroot now.
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:40] <sgclark> hiyas
[11:48] <BluesKaj> a user wants to remove systemd from 14.10 is this possible without breakage?
[11:49] <Riddell> um, it's not in 14.10
[11:49] <Riddell> but the bits of systemd which are in will be used so they'd be very much on their own
[11:50] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: why?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> yeah, I know the boot section isn't enabled unless set up manually in grub and it's used by udev otherwise
[11:53] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, a user was asking in $kubuntu 
[11:54] <BluesKaj> err #kubuntu
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[12:22] <sgclark> Riddell: oh, no next for vivid or ?
[12:24] <Riddell> sgclark: how do you mean?
[12:24] <sgclark> plasma5
[12:24] <sgclark> ppa
[12:24] <Riddell> right.  I haven't quite got it sorted in my head but I think kf5 and plasma5 packages should go in the normal PPAs not the next ones
[12:25] <Riddell> for vivid
[12:25] <Riddell> and indeed into the archive proper
[12:25] <sgclark> ahh that makes sense
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[13:23] <soee> Riddell: plasma5 will be default in vv ?
[13:33] <Riddell> soee: I'm saying it is, nobody objecting so far
[13:34] <soee> +1
[14:01] <Riddell> debfx: debian is on cmake 3?
[14:08] <_Groo_> Riddell: hi riddell
[14:09] <_Groo_> i backported (actually upported :P) cmplayer to utopic, what is the proper way to commit it for our beloved kubuntu
[14:09] <Riddell> what is cmplayer?
[14:10] <soee> Riddell: this http://cmplayer.github.io/ ?
[14:12] <sgclark> ScottK: despite my best efforts, I don't believe qwt-6.1.1 will be accepted into debian due to Doxygen shipping a minified jquery.js and linking to system causes bad formatted docs. There are piles of bugs all over with this problem. Let me know if you have ideas.
[14:12] <Riddell> _Groo_: I guess put it in a PPA for vivid so it's easily available/testable and then e-mail kubuntu-devel or ubuntu-motu or work out how to get it into debian
[14:14] <_Groo_> soee: yep
[14:15] <_Groo_> Riddell: any chance of backporting it to utopic? its a very nice (vaapi/vdpau enabled) qt5.x player... the best for us (kde) in my opinion, by far
[14:15] <_Groo_> Riddell: in my ppa i already have the utopic version ready
[14:15] <Riddell> vaapi/vdpau?
[14:15] <_Groo_> Riddell: yep
[14:16] <Riddell> _Groo_: yeah it can be backported but it has to be in current before it can be backported :)
[14:16] <_Groo_> Riddell: right, my question is... to be able to add it i need to go: vivid -> motu -> debian -> current -> backports?
[14:18] <debfx> Riddell: yep, although after reading kde-core-devel I'm not sure if that was a good idea.
[14:19] <Riddell> debfx: do you have any recommendation for kubuntu vivid (current development)
[14:19] <Riddell> ?
[14:20] <Riddell> _Groo_: I think options are  kubuntu to vivid -> utopic-backports   motu to vivid -> utopic-backports   or  debian -> vivid -> utopic-backports
[14:20] <Riddell> debian would be best as that would make it available to the most people
[14:20] <Riddell> but probably not the easiest
[14:21] <Riddell> and I honestly don't know if motu take contributions any more
[14:21]  * sgclark agrees
[14:21] <Riddell> they may just send you to debian
[14:23] <debfx> Riddell: do you know if cmake or kde-frameworks has been fixed?
[14:28] <Riddell> debfx: fixed for what?
[14:33] <debfx> Riddell: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-buildsystem&m=141409836220076&w=2
[14:45] <Riddell> debfx: ah so it's an issue with cmake 3.1
[14:46] <Peace-> i got an error compiling kdeconnect 0.7.2 that it's this 
[14:47] <Peace-> CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/KDE4Macros.cmake:1021 (add_executable):
[14:47] <Peace->   Cannot find source file:
[14:47] <Peace->     ../core/backends/lan/socketlinereader.cpp
[14:47] <Riddell> debfx: just spoke to upstream plasma who says cmake 3.1 should be fixed and cmake upstream responded quickly
[14:47] <Riddell> debfx: it looks all green http://build.kde.org/view/Frameworks/
[14:47] <Peace-> because kde connect has a bad bug on kubuntu , you can't use android like mouse ...
[14:47] <Peace-> i had to compile it but :D i got that weirdo message apt-file say nothing about socketlinereader 
[14:49] <Riddell> Peace-: that suggests to me the file is missing in kdeconnect sources no?
[14:49] <Peace-> mmm
[14:49] <Peace-> let me download again the source code
[14:49] <Peace-> Riddell: anyway thank you for the tip
[14:51] <_Groo_> Riddell: so if debian is hard, and motu doesnt accept contributions, the only way is to leave it in a ppa?
[14:51] <Peace-> Riddell: ;D damn it it was that i used the old folder and maybe i have deleted something thank you very much !
[14:52] <Riddell> _Groo_: no it leaves kubuntu (and I don't know if motu accepts anything, they're not very active)
[14:52] <Riddell> _Groo_: either way you go you should put it in your PPA just so it's easy for others to test
[14:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: its already there
[14:52] <_Groo_> i just wanted to send it to kubuntu-ninjas and perhaps backports ppa
[14:53] <_Groo_> or wherever you send packages to die now
[14:53] <Riddell> _Groo_: for vivid? cos that's what we'll care about in the first instance
[14:53] <_Groo_> Riddell: sure, i can repackage it for vivid
[14:53] <sgclark> Riddell: vivid qwt port https://launchpad.net/~sgclark/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-vivid/+packages
[14:54] <Riddell> sgclark: awooga
[14:54] <sgclark> Riddell: wqt qt4 ? or is there a more pressing package / anything that needs doing?
[14:54] <sgclark> s/wqt/qwt/
[14:54] <kubotu> sgclark meant: "Riddell: qwt qt4 ? or is there a more pressing package / anything that needs doing?"
[14:55] <Riddell> sgclark: was about to ask, I think while you're on qwt you may as well finish the job
[14:55] <Riddell> infact I don't want to look at qwt-qt5 until qt4 is there too so I can compare the two
[14:55] <sgclark> ok qt4 it is!
[14:55] <sgclark> okies
[14:56] <debfx> Riddell: so it only affected 3.1 but not 3.0?
[14:57] <Riddell> debfx: it only affected 3.1 RC I think, cmake 3.1 in git is fine
[14:58] <Riddell> and not at all 3.0
[14:58] <debfx> ok, then it makes sense to pull 3.0 into vivid
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[15:00] <Riddell> debfx: bug 1357270 is a previous merge for cmake 2.8 and there's a couple of changes it thinks should be kept in ubuntu, any idea if they're relevant for cmake 3?
[15:00] <ubottu> bug 1357270 in cmake (Ubuntu) "Merge cmake 2.8.12.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357270
[15:00] <Riddell> neither seem to be ubuntu specific
[15:02] <debfx> I haven't checked, though I kind of doubt that the MultiArchCross stuff has been upstreamed.
[15:03] <Riddell> debfx: don't you want to upstream them to debian at least?
[15:04] <_Groo_> Riddell: k, its in https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/peppa/+packages
[15:06] <Riddell> _Groo_: that package has no .orig tar
[15:07] <Riddell> _Groo_: where does the version number come from? 0.8.16-3~padoka2  was is -3 ?
[15:07] <Riddell> what is -3 ?
[15:08] <debfx> Riddell: possibly if the author opens a bug and explains the changes. but debian is frozen now anyway.
[15:08] <_Groo_> Riddell: 0.8.16 is the software version number
[15:09] <_Groo_> -3 is my third iteration with it (i have it installed locally via one of my other ppas)
[15:09] <_Groo_> ~padoka is my own brand
[15:09] <Riddell> _Groo_: can you upload it with a .orig tar ?
[15:10] <_Groo_> debuild -S -sa didnt create the orig?
[15:11] <Riddell> _Groo_: the orig is created by you, that's why it's called original :)
[15:11] <_Groo_> better question, how do i make debuild ask or use for the orig file?:
[15:11] <Riddell> debian/source/format needs to be  3.0 (native)  I think
[15:11] <_Groo_> already there
[15:12] <Riddell> oh no that's wrong
[15:12] <_Groo_> k, im downloading the original source code from the website
[15:12] <Riddell> 3.0 (quilt)
[15:12] <Riddell> is the one
[15:28] <_Groo_> Riddell: how do you want the version format?
[15:28] <_Groo_> 0.8.16-0~ppa0 ?
[15:35] <_Groo_> Riddell: done.. should be ok now
[15:38] <Riddell> _Groo_: boom, compile failure
[15:41] <_Groo_> it was working fine before
[15:41] <_Groo_> before i created the orig file
[15:41] <_Groo_> *(@&#*(&@#
[15:43] <Riddell> I would expect the orig tar to come from upstream rather than you having to create it
[15:43] <_Groo_> it was from upstream, thats why it doesnt compile lol
[15:43] <_Groo_> its missing code
[15:44] <_Groo_> it need to download ffmpeg and libcharset
[15:45] <_Groo_> and fails
[15:45] <_Groo_> libchardet
[15:46] <_Groo_> im remaking the orig file to add the missing external dependencies
[15:46] <_Groo_> i forget thats why i renamed it padoka instead of orig, to know i had to add stuff by hand :P
[15:48] <_Groo_> where can i get a COPYRIGHT file
[15:48] <_Groo_> its missing that one
[15:48] <_Groo_> CHANGES COPYING, GPL MPL all there
[15:48] <_Groo_> just COPYRIGHT is missing
[15:49] <Riddell> ah it downloads stuff at build time, that's not going to work with ubuntu packaging indeed
[15:49] <Riddell> ffmpeg may not have a happy licence for ubuntu either
[15:52] <_Groo_> remade the package, uploading now
[15:52] <_Groo_> lets see how it goes
[15:53] <Riddell> usually best to test in pbuilder if you're unsure
[15:54] <_Groo_> it will work :P
[15:54] <_Groo_> 110% sure
[16:30] <ScottK> sgclark: I _think_ you can use the "built-using" field to specify with doxygen you built the package with and then the doxygen in question is the "source" for the js.
[16:30] <ScottK> There's a thread on the topic on debian-devel right now.
[16:31] <sgclark> ok, will look, thanks ScottK
[16:58] <karan> hey i am planning to apply for  Project: Finish test.kubuntu.co.uk for KDE SOC and looking out for mentors here.
[17:06] <Riddell> hi karan, I'm afraid that's already taken up by another student who's already started working
[17:08] <karan> are there no other vacanies for it?
[17:09] <Riddell> not for that website I fear
[17:09] <Riddell> now replacing www.kde.org, there's a project, but I think more than the three months worth
[17:09] <Riddell> debfx: cmake 3.0.2 uploaded to vivid!
[17:13] <karan> okay thats not a problem but what technologies are required for it?
[17:14] <Riddell> karan: for kubuntu.org? we want to move to wordpress which is php and mysql and of course a good eye for design and readability
[17:16] <karan> i know wordpress and ussing its plugins, and for the database part i am familiar with mysql but i dont know php but am ready to learn it
[17:17] <Riddell> kde.org is raw php (and html) which is crappy, whenever I have to write a release announcement I end up feeling like I'm back in 2000
[17:17] <Riddell> you could ask on the kde-www list if there are any jobs that need doing and if anyone will mentor them
[17:22] <karan> Riddell: thanks a lot :)
[17:28] <Riddell> apachelogger: phonon default for kubuntu?  gstreamer or vlc?
[17:48] <sgclark> ScottK: Unfortunately, Built-Using: libjs-jquery (= 1.7.1) did absolutely nothing except add embedded jquery lintian error to my pile of source-missing errors. Doxygen lumps several js scripts into this Jquery file which might be the problem. In one of the million bug reports Doxygen closed the bug saying they will not change their method.
[17:48]  * sgclark bangs head
[17:49] <sgclark> Riddell: do we care about this issue? I am otherwise done...
[17:51] <Riddell> grr, doxygen are evil
[17:53] <Riddell> sgclark: yes we do but if you want to quietly slip it in you wouldn't be the first
[17:56] <sgclark> well it seems to be a comon problem with no solutions
[18:00] <_Groo_> Riddell: k now its working https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/peppa/+packages
[18:01] <Riddell> _Groo_: a good first step :)
[18:01] <_Groo_> Riddell: funny man :P
[18:02] <Riddell> thank you, I'm here all week
[18:02] <_Groo_> Riddell: lolololol
[18:02] <Riddell> actually no I'm not I think I'll be away tomorrow
[18:03] <_Groo_> why? out of booze?
[18:06] <Riddell> not at all, I have a guest staying this week and it would be nice to go for a healthy walk in the hills
[18:06] <_Groo_> Riddell: take a shovel
[18:07] <_Groo_> reiser did the exacts same walk with is lovely wife
[18:07] <_Groo_> if you have an iphone, siri can help with finding a place to ditch the body(ies)
[18:08] <_Groo_> you welcome :)
[18:10] <Riddell> black humour that
[18:10] <_Groo_> humour, what humour? oO
[18:10] <_Groo_> i just dont want you to make the same mistakes i did!
[18:13] <_Groo_> ;)
[18:13] <_Groo_> so, now that cmplayer is compiled, with a orig file and in a ppa, now hat?
[18:13] <_Groo_> what?
[18:16] <Riddell> _Groo_: you need someone to review it, e-mail kubuntu-devel and someone will take a look as soon as possible
[18:16] <_Groo_> define someone
[18:16] <_Groo_> what is the kubuntu-devel email?
[18:17] <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
[18:17] <Riddell> I'll take a look when I can, I just want the e-mail as a reminder
[18:17] <_Groo_> what do i write in the email? hi, my name is groo, i like long walks at the beach, unicorns and world peace?
[18:17] <Riddell> or maybe someone else will get there first
[18:17] <Riddell> yep that will endear you to us for sure
[18:18] <Riddell> but you might also want to mention you want this package reviewed
[18:18] <Riddell> I suspect the tricky point will be inclusion of ffmpeg
[18:19] <_Groo_> since its statically compiled in the included mplayer i dont see why not... its not messing with the libav in thesystem, is all contained
[18:19] <_Groo_> its
[18:19] <Riddell> there's patent issues in libav I think
[18:20] <Riddell> but I'm not sure, need to remind myself
[18:20] <_Groo_> do i need to be authorized to post to kubuntu-devel?
[18:20] <Riddell> no but you need to be a member
[18:23] <_Groo_> just sent it, see if you got it in the list
[18:37] <ScottK> sgclark: I don't think it'll make lintian happy, but I think it's policy compliant.
[18:37] <ScottK> I brought it up in the d-devel thread and no one said I was wrong yet.
[18:45] <Riddell> ScottK: any idea why smokegen is in main?
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[18:48] <sgclark> ScottK: ok, I will provide a link to the thread when trying for sponsership. Best I can do, because I am short on better ideas.
[18:55] <_Groo_> Riddell: did my email show up in themlist?
[18:55] <Riddell> _Groo_: nope not seem it
[18:56] <Riddell> nothing here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2014-October/thread.html
[18:56] <Riddell> what address did you post from and what address did you sign up from?
[19:11]  * Riddell blogs https://blogs.kde.org/2014/10/29/kubuntu-vivid-bright-blue
[19:13] <_Groo_> Riddell:  kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com i sent
[19:14] <_Groo_> subscribed through https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
[19:14] <Riddell> _Groo_: what's your address?
[19:15] <_Groo_> paulo.miguel.dias@gmail.com
[19:15]  * sgclark shares
[19:15] <Riddell> _Groo_: you weren't a member, I just added you, try resending your e-mail
[19:15] <Riddell> kubotu: yay!
[19:16] <_Groo_> Riddell: strange i sent the membership request
[19:17] <_Groo_> k just resend it
[19:20] <_Groo_> did it came through?
[19:20] <_Groo_> in a non sexual way?
[19:22] <sgclark> Riddell: shared on all our social stuffs
[19:22]  * sgclark back to hating doxygen
[19:23] <Riddell> yay thanks sgclark 
[19:28] <_Groo_> Riddell: did you get it? in the list?
[19:28] <Riddell> _Groo_: yep got it now thanks
[19:35] <_Groo_> k
[19:36] <_Groo_> Riddell: any news on having a weekly build for plasma 5.2 branch?
[19:36] <_Groo_> for testing, destruction, general fun and games
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[19:44] <Riddell> _Groo_: voila http://files.kde.org/snapshots/
[19:53] <_Groo_> Riddell: not an ISO, a ppa
[19:53] <_Groo_> so i can just do dist-upgrade and go back to play with my pink poneis
[19:56] <Riddell> _Groo_: voila https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable
[19:56] <_Groo_> THANK YOU< HUHUUUUUU, updating now...
[19:57] <_Groo_> mayhem, destruction, annihilation here i come!
[19:58] <_Groo_> should i keep the plasma-next? or just this one?
[20:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Hmm after practicing (wrestling) with pkgkde-symbolshelper I have a Utopic build of libkpeople3 underway
[20:24] <sgclark> _Groo_: depends how brave you are, unstable is just that.. unstable
[20:24] <Sick_Rimmit> Fingers crossed it builds right this time
[20:25]  * sgclark cheers Sick_Rimmit
[20:34] <Sick_Rimmit> Nah!
[20:34] <Sick_Rimmit> I'm not having any joy
[20:34] <Sick_Rimmit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8737547/
[20:34] <Sick_Rimmit> I think the problem is the libkpeople4 libraries causing a SONAME mismatch
[20:35] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: yup, you need to rename the packages in control file remove 3 and ues 4
[20:35] <sgclark> use*
[20:35] <sgclark> SONAME was bumped to 4
[20:36] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: this will also mean you will need to fix install files etc, anything to do with the package name chage
[20:36]  * Sick_Rimmit brain gears whirr, 
[20:37] <sgclark> heh, be happy you are not packaging the beast I have been working on, banging my head against a wall
[20:38] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: open the control file in /debian
[20:39] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: OK
[20:39] <Sick_Rimmit> open
[20:39] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: look for Package: libkpeople3 and all other Package: blahblah3
[20:39] <Sick_Rimmit> OK
[20:39] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: those need to be changed to 4 instead of 5
[20:39] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: those need to be changed to 4 instead of 3...
[20:40] <Sick_Rimmit> OK Understood s/4/3/
[20:40] <_Groo_> strange, they were supposed to have fixed the wallpaper "ghost" thumbnail bug, but its till here
[20:40] <_Groo_> maybe i need to clean .config,.ccache etc etc
[20:40] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: you will noticed in the /debian there are .install files for each package in the control file
[20:41] <Sick_Rimmit> OK
[20:41] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: those need to be renamed to match your new 4 packages
[20:42] <soee> _Groo_: clearing cache does not helped me, though iv seen some videos from Poalsma5 where the ghost thumbs were gone, not sure how though
[20:42] <soee> maybe some fresh installation
[20:43] <_Groo_> soee: :P
[20:43] <Sick_Rimmit> OK 2 Package: entries changed in control, and one .install file
[20:43] <_Groo_> whoever had the bright idea of moving .kde to all over the place should be shot in the face
[20:43] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: that copyright error is simply on line 74 there is a blank line. All blank lines inside License: need to have a period rather than the blank line.
[20:44] <sgclark> the seems rather harsh _Groo_
[20:44] <_Groo_> it was so easy, remove .kde, there, pristine desktop
[20:44] <_Groo_> now you need to hunt this shit all over the place :P
[20:44] <_Groo_> sgclark: fine just hand him by the balls in some public place till he passes out
[20:45]  * Sick_Rimmit Ah I am starting to understand
[20:47] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, my thoughts are that I need not pkgkde-symbols patch. having made those changes I should now try to pbuild again. yes ?
[20:48] <Sick_Rimmit> Sorry that's not clear
[20:48] <Sick_Rimmit> I mean it should be ready for me to try to pbuild again
[20:48] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: Yeah out-of-date-standards needs you to go through https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist can leave that for this package until you read that and get more experience
[20:48] <Sick_Rimmit> Im gonna DO IT
[20:49] <sgclark> lol go for it
[21:24] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like smokegen is main because debconf uses libqtgui4-perl.
[21:43] <Riddell> oh yes that rings a bell
[21:44] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: how's it going?
[21:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Yep its going
[21:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Infact your question is timely, I almost have a decent build
[21:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Looks like I fxied the symbols stuff, thanks to sgclark
[21:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Can you point me in the direction of the right file to correct htis 
[21:45] <Sick_Rimmit> libkpeople source: syntax-error-in-dep5-copyright line 74: Continuation line outside a paragraph (maybe line 73 should be " .").
[21:46] <Sick_Rimmit> Is it the copyright file in /debian
[21:46] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: yes
[21:46] <Sick_Rimmit> Hmmm right. I corrected that file..
[21:46] <Sick_Rimmit> It has BSD License line entry which ends para with a Colon :
[21:47] <Sick_Rimmit> Hang On - ill paste it
[21:47] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: ok
[21:47] <Sick_Rimmit> Ah its OK I see it I see now
[21:48] <Sick_Rimmit> I did realise how the copyright file was formatting EOL..
[21:48] <Sick_Rimmit> its using a . on its own line
[21:48] <Sick_Rimmit> fixing it
[21:49] <Sick_Rimmit> building again
[21:50] <Sick_Rimmit> My suspicion is that the Build for vivid should just be a quick dch change to the target and a new pbuild chroot.. yes ?
[21:50] <sgclark> Riddell: qwt-qt4 and qwt-qt5 for vivid building in https://launchpad.net/~sgclark/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-vivid/+packages
[21:50] <valorie> Quintasan: you were working on redshift?
[21:50] <valorie> I could have used it yesterday
[21:50] <Quintasan> valorie: Yes, that seems to be the case.
[21:51] <valorie> it was broken for me 
[21:51] <Quintasan> And I know what's broken but couldn't get it into utopic since I was busy
[21:51] <valorie> I did file a bug, and saw yours too
[21:51] <Quintasan> I'll fix the dependency one.
[21:51] <Quintasan> About geoclue - no idea.
[21:51] <valorie> and actually I experienced your bug in 14.10 but didn't file it
[21:51] <valorie> boo on me
[21:52] <valorie> darn it
[21:52] <valorie> for now I installed a dark theme, but there are white bits all over the place
[21:52] <sgclark> yofel: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1330180 would you like me to backport to trusty or was there an issue?
[21:52] <ubottu> Error: kde bug 1330180 not found
[21:52] <sgclark> err
[21:53] <valorie> hi sgclark, did you end up coming to Seattle last Sunday?
[21:53] <sgclark> yofel: #1330180 would you like me to backport to trusty or was there an issue?
[21:53] <sgclark> valorie: nah, I had some life stuff to work through :(
[21:54] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[21:54] <sgclark> ty
[21:58]  * Sick_Rimmit Get in there you beauty
[21:58] <Sick_Rimmit> libkpeople is built
[21:59] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Please can you cast your eye over this 
[21:59] <Sick_Rimmit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8738422/
[22:00] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: no errors :) looks to be a work of perfection
[22:00] <Sick_Rimmit> Awesome
[22:00] <Sick_Rimmit> OK what do I do with,
[22:01] <Sick_Rimmit> I mean can I push it up to the repo
[22:01] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: you have a personal ppa set up?
[22:01] <Sick_Rimmit> can I can I 
[22:01] <Sick_Rimmit> Ooo err...
[22:01] <Sick_Rimmit> dunno 
[22:01] <Sick_Rimmit> let me have a look
[22:01] <valorie> folks, are people here successfully using kdeconnect with plasma 5?
[22:01] <valorie> it won't start for me at all
[22:02] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: it took alot of packaging to get push rights. I usually put in a personal ppa you can set up on your launchpad page
[22:02] <valorie> along with redshift, kpat, and the puzzle thing I tried last night
[22:02] <Sick_Rimmit> No I have no PPA's setup
[22:02] <valorie> not sure if it is us, or KDE problem
[22:02] <sgclark> valorie: I had to do some funky dbus command to get it to work. let me see if I can find post
[22:03] <sgclark> not ideal for your typical user though I suspect
[22:03] <valorie> so is that a packaging problem, or should I file a bug in KDE against kdeconnect?
[22:04] <sgclark> oh I don't kinow, I have never looked at that package
[22:05] <valorie> ok
[22:05] <valorie> after I installed palapeli, and tried to run it, I got the same error message I get with kpat
[22:05] <valorie> KDEInit could not launch 'kpat':
[22:05] <valorie> Could not open library '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat'.
[22:05] <valorie> Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat: (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_kpat.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[22:06] <sgclark> err
[22:06] <valorie> I filed a bko bug, but perhaps it was the wrong place to file
[22:07] <Sick_Rimmit> OK Looking at your profile sgclarkmy thinking is to create 2 PPA's kubuntu-utopic, and kubuntu-vivid
[22:07] <sgclark> libkdeinit5_kpat.so is a frameworks build... and afasik we don't have any apps yet frameworks builds
[22:07] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: yeah
[22:07] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: Cool thanks for your reassurance
[22:08] <valorie> sgclark: are you saying that the games have been ported to f5, and that is why they aren't working?
[22:08] <valorie> or that they have not
[22:09] <sgclark> valorie: I think that is an upstream issue if you are using normal 4.14.* KDE SC
[22:09] <sgclark> valorie: let me see if I have the problem
[22:10] <valorie> no, I have plasma 5, 14.10
[22:10] <sgclark> 14.10???? did I miss a release?
[22:10] <Quintasan> HURR
[22:11] <Quintasan> yofel: Does dch pick up your email address automagicall?
[22:11] <Quintasan> I have DEBEMAIL="quintasan@kubuntu.org" in .devscripts but it still marks me as quintasan@demonbane which makes no sense.
[22:12] <Quintasan> argh
[22:12] <Quintasan> it ignores the,
[22:12] <sgclark> valorie: or 14.10 as in utopic..? too many 14's lol
[22:12] <Quintasan> them*
[22:12] <Quintasan> sgclark: Utopic is 14.10
[22:12] <Quintasan> Trusty is 14.04
[22:12] <valorie> utopic, yes
[22:12] <sgclark> yes I know that..
[22:13] <sgclark> The next KDE Applications is  14.12 , sorry for my confusion
[22:13] <valorie> haha, too many damn numbers
[22:14] <sgclark> ikr
[22:14] <valorie> users constantly confuse me in #kubuntu
[22:16] <Quintasan> valorie: bug #1312896 should be fixed in vivid as soon as I testbuild it.
[22:16] <ubottu> bug 1312896 in plasma-widget-redshift (Ubuntu) "plasma-widget-redshift does not pull redshift binary" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1312896
[22:16]  * Sick_Rimmit hums tum tee tum tum tee
[22:16] <valorie> Quintasan: good to hear
[22:16] <Sick_Rimmit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8738585/
[22:16] <valorie> of course I have all the installed parts now
[22:17] <sgclark> valorie: yeah something is not right. Going through menu I get that same error. /usr/share/kpat in terminal works though. 
[22:17] <valorie> but maybe others don't have the weird error I encountered
[22:17] <valorie> ooo
[22:17] <valorie> I'll try that for now, sgclark
[22:17] <valorie> however, I would still like to know where to file a bug -- is that against our packaging?
[22:18] <valorie> or the source packages
[22:18] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rick-timmis/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-utopic
[22:18] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: It goes good
[22:19] <Sick_Rimmit> OK, I'm going to write my notes up. Will have a crack at building this for Vivid tomorrow
[22:19] <Sick_Rimmit> Thank you so much sgclark You're Awesome!!
[22:21] <sgclark> Sick_Rimmit: np :)
[22:21] <sgclark> valorie: your bug is in the right place
[22:22] <gandalf> hi there, I have a question regarding plasma5. I installed kubuntu 14.10 plasma5 version, then parallel to it also ubuntu-desktop to have an ubuntu session in case something doesnt work with the new plasma5. I found the installation of ubuntu-desktop to interfere with plasma5, in particular some icons are overwritten by older ones (example: systemsettings). is there a known way to fix this?
[22:25] <valorie> btw, /usr/share/kpat did not work for me 
[22:25] <valorie> oh, well
[22:26] <Sick_Rimmit> hi gandalf
[22:26] <sgclark> really?
[22:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Not sure about the answer on this, but...
[22:26] <sgclark> valorie: did you have any output?
[22:26] <Sick_Rimmit> Plasma 5 is a Tech preview at the moment, so it won't be straight forward getting it to play nice right now
[22:27] <Sick_Rimmit> We are however going to release Kubuntu 15.04 with Plasma 5 as teh default
[22:27] <valorie> $ /usr/share/kpat
[22:27] <valorie> bash: /usr/share/kpat: No such file or directory
[22:27] <Sick_Rimmit> So I think virtual box or other vm is probably your friend at this  point
[22:27] <sgclark> valorie: ugh my bad. /usr/games/kpat 
[22:27] <Sick_Rimmit> I hope this helps
[22:28] <valorie> heh
[22:29] <valorie> weeee, it works
[22:29] <valorie> ok, productivity is at an end
[22:29] <valorie> lol
[22:29] <sgclark> my problem... installing other games to test wants to remove kubuntu-plasma5-desktop... this is definately a packaging problem
[22:32] <sgclark> Recommends: khelpcenter4 O.o wonder how many of these are out there
[22:34] <gandalf> ok Sick_Rimmit, that means I just have to wait?
[22:35] <sgclark> gandalf: could you report a bug on launchpad?
[22:35] <Sick_Rimmit> gandalf:  It might pay to use kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-plasma5-desktop together
[22:36] <sgclark> gandalf: and a installl log would be great
[22:42] <valorie> Sick_Rimmit: I didn't know this was possible
[22:42] <valorie> to use them together
[22:43] <Sick_Rimmit> valorie: neither do I, I am just assuming that apt-get will resolve it. I haven't tried
[22:44] <Sick_Rimmit> But it would be what I would attempt, given the problem that Gandalf was presenting.
[22:44] <sgclark> err no, they conflict
[22:44]  * Sick_Rimmit runs and hides in his basket
[22:44] <sgclark> I am not even convinced ubuntu-desktop plays nice with plasma5
[22:45] <sgclark> haven't tried and don't have a spare system to try on
[22:45] <Sick_Rimmit> sgclark: According to Gandalf it does not
[22:45] <Sick_Rimmit> I have a Plasma5 preview at work, I can try and break it on
[22:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: re phonon, I really do not know anymore, vlc keeps regressing on me, so I am somewhat disappointed in both .. how about xine? :P
[22:58] <valorie> oh xine, the good old days
[22:59] <valorie> when everything crashed or froze All The Time
[23:22] <gandalf> @sgclark: yes will do
[23:22] <sgclark> thanks!
[23:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: what about this cmplayer thing? :)
[23:34] <apachelogger> it has mplayer in the name...