[00:19] <elementofone> !ops
[00:19] <shadeslayer> what
[00:19] <shadeslayer> elementofone: whats up
[04:59] <top> as
[04:59] <top> ZX
[05:03] <AmnesiaHaze> any chance anyone knows anything about setting up port knocking on ssh?
[05:04] <Unit193> AmnesiaHaze: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-port-knocking-to-hide-your-ssh-daemon-from-attackers-on-ubuntu
[05:21] <AmnesiaHaze> Unit193,     followed still doesnt seem to open
[05:22] <mefisto_> after upgrade to 14.10 I have dependency problems. Can anyone suggest what I should do? http://paste.kde.org/pnyeh2cl3
[05:30] <valorie> mefisto_: did you have any suspicious/rare PPAs installed before the upgrade?
[05:31] <mefisto_> valorie: well I had PPAs. they're all suspicious, right?
[05:31] <valorie> wow, that is indeed dependency hell
[05:32] <valorie> kubuntu-ppa should all be fine
[05:32] <valorie> others sometimes cause problems
[05:32] <valorie> however, it looks as if you got an incomplete upgrade for some reason
[05:33] <valorie> can you run `sudo apt update && sudo apt install full-upgrade` and see what happens?
[05:33] <valorie> I actually encountered some dependency problems in my upgrade as well, but that fixed it for me
[05:34] <mefisto_> apt install full-upgrade ??
[05:35] <valorie> yes, please just copy/paste the whole line
[05:35] <valorie> everything between the ticks
[05:35] <mefisto_> E: Unable to locate package full-upgrade
[05:35] <valorie> pfff
[05:36] <valorie> you ran `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[05:36] <valorie> just like that?
[05:36] <valorie> oh shoot
[05:36] <valorie> I mistyped
[05:36] <valorie> my goof
[05:37] <mefisto_> same errors as what I pasted
[05:37] <valorie> damn
[05:38] <Unit193> He'd want  apt-get install -f or dpkg --configure -a
[05:38] <Unit193> 14.10, with udev that old? Nah, it's 208.
[05:38] <Unit193> 204 was trusty, iirc.
[05:39] <valorie> Unit193: he did install -f
[05:39] <valorie> I was about to head to dpkg
[05:39] <valorie> poor old thing gave up, evidently
[05:43] <valorie> so mefisto_, did you see what Unit193 said above?
[05:44] <valorie> `dpkg --configure -a`
[05:44] <valorie> should allow you to configure all those unconfigured bits
[05:47] <mefisto_> valorie: no, dpkg gave the same kind of errors
[05:48] <valorie> how did you initiate this upgrade?
[05:48] <valorie> did you update 14.04 first?
[05:49] <mefisto_> yes i updated 14.04, then did sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:53] <valorie> ok
[05:53] <valorie> please try do-release-upgrade again
[05:54]  * valorie crosses fingers for luck
[05:55] <valorie> full-upgrade should have uninstalled anything that needed to be gone, old versions and such
[05:56] <mefisto_> No new release found
[05:57] <valorie> grrrr
[05:58] <valorie> any ideas, smart people of the channel?
[05:58] <valorie> besides clean install
[06:19] <scottn_work> Seems to be more activity now so going to try this question again - Just upgraded to 14.10 and on my laptop with an Intel graphics card getting this error - intel_set_pixmap_bo: size of buffer object does not match constraints: size=4096, must be greater than 8192, but less than 67108864. Google searching just gives me two wayland related entries. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[06:19] <scottn_work> I'm using X, not wayland.
[06:23] <valorie> right, wayland is not ready for prime time yet
[06:24] <valorie> we KDE/Kubuntu do not use wayland yet
[06:25] <scottn_work> I'm getting this error using X. It's a staight upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10.
[06:26] <valorie> def. sounds like a driver problem
[06:26] <valorie> scottn_work: try alt+f2, then type driver
[06:27] <valorie> it should suggest driver-manager
[06:27] <valorie> see if there is something else you can try
[06:27] <scottn_work> valorie: Comes up completely blank
[06:28] <valorie> !
[06:28] <valorie> it doesn't say "collecting information about your system" or close?
[06:29] <scottn_work> Says collecting information about your system and then goes blank. Stays open so not crashing per se.
[06:29] <valorie> that is mighty strange
[06:29] <valorie> !graphics
[06:29] <valorie> pfff
[06:30] <valorie> !drivers
[06:30] <valorie> well, ubottu, you are disappointing to me
[06:30] <valorie> !intell
[06:30] <valorie> oops
[06:30] <valorie> !intel
[06:30] <valorie> nope
[06:31] <scottn_work> The laptop is one of those dual driver things - intel + Geforce 310M CUDA. Before upgrading desktop effects were working fine with the intel. Now no desktop effects. It didn't find the nvidia card under either 14.04 or 14.10.
[06:32] <valorie> !nvidia
[06:32] <valorie> there is some nvidia issues, I've heard
[06:32] <valorie> scottn_work: did you choose lightdm, or sddm?
[06:32] <scottn_work> [  1056.646] (II) LoadModule: "intel"
[06:32] <scottn_work> [  1056.646] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[06:32] <scottn_work> [  1056.647] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[06:32] <scottn_work> [  1056.647]    compiled for 1.16.0, module version = 2.99.914
[06:32] <scottn_work> [  1056.647]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[06:32] <scottn_work> [  1056.647]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
[06:32] <unopaste> scottn_work you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:33] <valorie> scottn_work: please investigate that page that ubottu served you while you are muted
[06:33] <valorie> I can be of no further help about drivers, unfortunately
[06:34] <scottn_work> valorie: lightdm - it was only six lines... OK. Won't do that again. Here is is - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8729184/
[06:34] <scottn_work> So definitely finds the intel
[06:34] <scottn_work> valorie: OK. Thanks for your help.
[06:34] <valorie> I got it, but don't know anything about drivers
[06:34] <valorie> beyond getting ubottu to cough up some hairballs
[06:35] <valorie> lightdm should be less trouble, for now, until whatever the nvidia stuff is fixed for sddm
[06:37] <scottn_work> valorie: I am using lightdm
[06:37] <valorie> good
[06:38] <valorie> sddm is working for me, but I have no driver issues
[06:55] <hyper_ch> after last nights updates, my ethernet connection ceased working
[06:58] <valorie> last night's updates to what, hyper_ch?
[06:58] <hyper_ch> utopic
[06:58] <hyper_ch> there were 4-5 small files.... didn't seem network related
[06:58] <valorie> hmmm
[06:58] <valorie> I have utopic as well
[06:58] <hyper_ch> had ethernet last night at home
[06:58] <hyper_ch> worked fine
[06:58] <valorie> I'll go get an ethernet cable
[06:58] <hyper_ch> updated, powered off this morning to get to work
[06:59] <hyper_ch> and now at work - no ethernet connection. tried also different cables
[06:59] <valorie> ewww
[06:59] <hyper_ch> wifi works fine
[06:59] <valorie> nmcli might be your friend
[06:59] <valorie> rather clumsy to use, but it will work
[07:00] <hyper_ch> updates from yesterday http://paste.debian.net/129189/
[07:01] <hyper_ch> the systray applet sees when cable is plugged in and when not... just not connection is being established
[07:03] <valorie> hyper_ch: I think that is the wrong paste
[07:04] <valorie> my cable is immediately detected, and connected
[07:04] <hateball> hyper_ch: what does mii-tool say
[07:05] <valorie> so I wonder if it is connected to your updates
[07:06] <hyper_ch> valorie:
[07:06] <hyper_ch> no, that's the right paste... with the updates from last night
[07:06] <hyper_ch> before it worked... and this morning it didn't anymore after reboot
[07:06] <hyper_ch> hateball: waht's mii-tool?
[07:07] <hateball> hyper_ch: used in terminal, shows info on your network cards etc
[07:07] <hateball> thus, more trustworthy than gui things ;p
[07:08] <hyper_ch> mii-tool
[07:08] <hyper_ch> no MII interfaces found
[07:08] <hateball> !sudo
[07:08] <hyper_ch> root@subi:~# mii-tool
[07:08] <hyper_ch> no MII interfaces found
[07:08] <hateball> ;f
[07:10] <hyper_ch> strange.... I plugged in again and now it works... before it couldn't establish a connection for 3 minutes and 1 reboot
[07:10] <hyper_ch> and mii-tool still say no interface found
[07:11] <hyper_ch> (also I wonder why the network card has a description of p2p1 instead of eth0)
[07:15] <soee> good morning
[07:15] <hateball> hyper_ch: you can have a look in  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:16] <hateball> googling suggests there is some package called biosdevname making a mess of things. I thought that was only used in Fedora, guess it is here as well now
[07:17] <valorie> not installed here
[07:19] <hateball> ye I dunno, I havent played with 14.10 much yet, but 70-persistent-net.rules has been troublesome in the past
[07:21] <valorie> http://paste.kde.org/phnsqofyk
[08:09] <hyper_ch> hateball: thx for the info :)
[08:10] <hyper_ch> it's not a bother... just unexpected as I'm used to eth0/1/....
[09:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:13] <rishabh> #krita
[11:40] <kolp> hi, how do I update from 14.04 to 14.10 without installing systemd?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:47] <BluesKaj> kolp, systemd will install, but won't be used unless you set it up in grub
[11:49] <kolp> BluesKaj: why is it installed then?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> not my decision, that's canonical's
[11:50] <kolp> BluesKaj: right, thanks for the info
[11:50] <lordievader> kolp: In 14.10 systemd is only used by udev.
[11:51] <kolp> so 14.10 on't work without systemd?
[11:51] <shadeslayer> kolp: I do believe its installed so that people who want to try it out can do so easily
[11:51] <kolp> I thought that's what repositories are for :p
[11:54] <domi-nic> As my system appears to have been broken (three times in a row) by switching to NVideas 304 driver can someone give me a command line to switch back to X-orgs driver. The graphical interface no longer allows switching.
[11:55] <BluesKaj> well the debate begins
[11:55] <lordievader> kolp: It dosn't use systemd
[11:55] <BluesKaj> domi-nic, which nvidia gpu?
[11:56] <domi-nic> GeForce 520
[12:00] <B1nny> !plasma | b1nny
[12:00] <B1nny> !plasma5 | b1nny
[12:01] <BluesKaj> domi-nic, which kubuntu?
[12:02]  * BluesKaj shrugs, no patience
[12:43] <domi-nic> BluesKaj : We were just starting a conversation 10 mins ago about nvidia drivers and GeForce GT520 when my connection dropped out. What do you need to know?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> domi-nic, which kubuntu/
[12:44] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:46] <domi-nic_> gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:10428 gdkpixbuf warning cannot open pixbufloader module
[12:47] <domi-nic_> this connection is flaky as well
[12:48] <BluesKaj> domi-nic_, you should be using the 331 as a minimmum driver with that gpu
[12:51] <domi-nic_> was doing on a previous install. but screen freezes (also the reason why I can't really use x-org server) linuxmint front page says to use 3.04 drivers to fix this.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> no, 3,04 is too old , check the page date
[12:53] <BluesKaj> are you on mint</
[12:54] <kolp> so, a fresh 14.10 installation doesn't run systemd as pid 1 (though there is systemd-* stuff), but apt-get remove systemd wants to remove all of KDE and more... oh dear
[12:54] <lordievader> kolp: Yes, like I said it's used by Udev.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> kolp, the best you can hope for is the state of systemd to remain as is
[12:55] <kolp> lordievader: yes, systemd-udev, I didn't grog it at the time
[12:55] <kolp> BluesKaj: not something I want to rely on :)
[12:56] <BluesKaj> kolp, well, not much choice unless you switch OSs that doesn't use systemd anywhere
[12:56] <kolp> I'll stick with 14.04 for now and move to something without systemd at some point...
[12:58] <BluesKaj> kolp, so you read the negative reports about systemd ...there's quite a debate about it alright
[12:58] <lordievader> Likely the state of sytemd in 14.10 won't change. 15.04 on the other hand...
[12:59] <kolp> yes, I've read quite a bit about systemd
[12:59] <BluesKaj> lordievader, well , so far systemd isn't booting 15.04
[12:59] <kolp> its not my cup of tea...
[13:03] <BluesKaj> I have negativ e feelings about systemd and pulseaudio etc, both Poettering written, a guy who's been looked at as a fifth column in Linux vs the big guys
[13:04] <BluesKaj> a spy in the house of love so to speak
[13:07] <kolp> that, and a massive pid 1 like systemd is an unnecessary risk
[13:22] <kolp> I hope the recent debian GR will be successful, then that'll be my OS of choice
[13:23] <kolp> s/OS/distro/
[13:29] <lordievader> Debian is also moving to systemd, that is why Ubuntu is moving.
[13:38] <kolp> lordievader: that's not certain, there is a recent move to make support for alternative init systems mandatory in debian
[14:03] <Roguehorse> =)
[14:06] <Roguehorse> What is the script that runs when I mount an external drive through Dolphin by clicking in the left panel?
[14:17] <BluesKaj>  /etc/fstab
[14:37] <Roguehorse> yeah, I did that..not the same thing
[14:38] <Roguehorse> that mounts the drive as ntfs...it's eSATA and pmount says it can't do it because it's not a removable drive
[14:39] <BluesKaj> ahh the network folder desktop entry
[14:39] <Roguehorse> bingo!
[14:40] <Roguehorse> Dolphin mounts the drive under the user directory with as 700 permissions...fstab attaches 777 permissions
[14:40] <BluesKaj> yes I have a similar setup, my external was setup with ssh in the network folder setup
[14:41] <lordievader> Gvfs is responsible for that, I believe.
[14:41] <Roguehorse> Dolphin doesn't specify the drive as ntfs as a result..the blue on green ascii highlighting in konsole is not there
[14:42] <Roguehorse> Ahh..a hint I can chase down
[14:44] <BluesKaj> i recently reformatted my external drive to ntfs from ext4 since it's now connected by usb to the network router, but I'm seriously considering moving it back to the media server pc
[14:45] <Peace-> BluesKaj: dev chan ?
[14:45] <Peace-> i forgot the name
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Peace-, kubuntu-devel
[14:45] <lordievader> !alis
[14:45] <Peace-> BluesKaj: thank you
[14:46] <Peace->  
[14:48] <Roguehorse> I was chasing this down really quick last night and couldn't find a way to log the scripts run by actions through the file manager
[14:48] <Roguehorse> I'm not thrilled with the way /etc/fstab handles the drive
[14:50] <lordievader> Roguehorse: That's a question of configuration...
[14:53] <Roguehorse> Well, I like the way Dolphin handles the mounting and not so much how /etc/fstab does so I'd like to be able to emulate the script run by Dolphin at boot rather that configure /etc/fstab to automount the drive so I don't necessarily have to launch Dolphin and can go straight to konsole
[14:53] <Roguehorse> does that make sense?
[14:55] <lordievader> Roguehorse: No. If you want to mount things at boot time use fstab.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> or you can set it up in system settings>removable devices
[15:03] <Roguehorse> I tried the system setting>removable devices and it doesn't recongnize my drive
[15:04] <Roguehorse> in 13.10 I used to just nav to my drive in konsole and it would automount it for me
[15:04] <Roguehorse> that all stopped with 14.04
[15:05] <Roguehorse> I didn't have to configure fstab either
[15:11] <Roguehorse> Dolphin automatically creates a mount point with correct permissions, owner, and group then when umount(ing) it removes the directory as well ... all this happens under /media/user/
[15:13] <Roguehorse> if I can click on it and make this happen, I _should_ be able to also write a boot script and add it to system settings>startup & shutdown to emulate the process
[15:14] <lordievader> Roguehorse: Or you can configure fstab properly.
[15:15] <Roguehorse> LOL! Been there and done that..think _outside_ the box
[15:19] <irish_canon> anyone here
[15:20] <lordievader> irish_canon: See /names...
[15:20] <genii> irish_canon: Lots of people :) Best to just ask whatever your question is and see if someone takes up an answer to it
[15:20] <irish_canon> im trying you setup a system to do dictation using mozart
[15:21] <irish_canon> but not able to install it
[15:23] <genii> irish_canon: In Konsole, please do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozart       ...and then use pastebin to show us the output.
[15:23] <genii> Possibly some dependency issue if you have PPAs or such.
[15:25] <irish_canon> http://pastebin.com/bHAjdm5N
[15:26] <irish_canon> im thinking that PPAs are missing but dont know where to obtain them
[15:30] <genii> irish_canon: What is the result of: apt-cache policy mozart
[15:31] <genii> Please excuse lag, I'm at work and assisting as possible.
[15:35] <irish_canon> truth, dont know...
[15:36] <genii> irish_canon: It's another command to put into Konsole and then show us the output of :)
[15:48] <irish_canon> http://pastebin.com/MQyDdqjh
[15:52] <genii> Hm, all that so far looks normal.
[15:53] <genii> irish_canon: What happens if you try: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:54] <irish_canon> im using kubuntu andd want to set up a dictation system and ideas... mine was mozart but no love
[15:55] <irish_canon> http://pastebin.com/1Xu3M0Ek
[16:39] <archetech2> how do i set quassel to stop drap over popups
[16:40] <rww> what's a drap over?
[16:41] <archetech2> drag
[16:42] <archetech2> disable animations did it
[16:42] <archetech2> nope it happens when I mouse over the channel list
[17:32] <Walex> irish_canon: thats the kind of application that open source authors don't like to write, so there is not a lot to choose.
[17:59] <madeti2> I upgraded my 14.04 kubuntu to 14.10 and then switched to plasma5 through "next repo", it was working fine, but after a while the system became unresponsive, so I restarted
[17:59] <madeti2> now when I log in, after the splash screen, just a mouse cursor appear and nothing happens
[17:59] <madeti2> no desktop, no icons, no panel
[17:59] <madeti2> all black
[18:00] <madeti2> but if I log into guest account, it is working as it sould
[18:00] <madeti2> can anyone help me? or do I need to reinstall ?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> madeti2, ctl+alt+F1-F6, login, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop
[18:03] <madeti2> BluesKaj: I won't be able to install anything from internet, because for that I have to first log into a portal (accessible through browser, am in college), anything else that can be done?
[18:04] <madeti2> i am currently running the laptop through a bootable pen drive
[18:05] <BluesKaj> madeti2, why plasma 5 anyway, it's full of bugs, not ready for real usage
[18:05] <BluesKaj> !plasma5
[18:07] <madeti2> BluesKaj: well I wanted to contribute to plasma 5, so i thought i should start by checking it out
[18:07] <BluesKaj> madeti2, I gave it 3 chances and it struck out
[18:10] <BluesKaj> madeti2, i'm not afraid to test new software, otherwise I wouldn't be running 15.04... that's all i have to say, otherwise I'll be chastised again by certan devs :)
[18:13] <BluesKaj> madeti2, and without proper access to the internet testing new software is definitley not going to be easy.
[18:13] <madeti2> :D
[19:47] <genry> hallo))))))
[19:48] <lordievader> o/
[19:49] <genry> Русские есть?
[19:49] <genii> !ru
[19:53] <lelamal> Hi all! When I check for updates, on Muon Update Manager, I'm told a new version of Kubuntu is available. Then I click on Upgrade, enter my password, but nothing happens. I try to copy/paste the command from the popup window on Konsole, and this is what it says: http://paste.kde.org/pfcgfyuwx
[19:53] <lelamal> What can I do to solve the problem?
[20:04] <genii> lelamal: You used the � character as part of a password ?
[20:09] <lelamal> genii: I can't see the character you typed, it appears to me just as an interrogation mark inside a black square
[20:12] <genii> From your paste it seems to be having an issue with that particular character which is \xab
[20:12] <genii> But from where it is coming, difficult to know
[20:13] <lelamal> Mmm, I see... and is there anything I can do to upgrade the system?
[20:14] <lelamal> I've been having this password for years, anyway, and never had any problem in upgrading.
[20:53] <janmalte> does some users have problems with their online banking using KMyMoney? Since a few days I get an SSL Handshake error and can't receive the data from the banking server
[21:32] <genii> janmalte: Perhaps a pastebin of the error you're experiencing might help
[21:39] <janmalte> genii: There is no error message, except a message, saying TSL Handshake error during requesting the info from the banking using AqBanking/HBCI
[21:53] <skinux> What is the best Anti-Virus software?
[21:56] <genii> skinux: It's not really required for linux machines. But if you think you might be passing one on to someone else, you can check out clamav
[22:08] <cdunn70000000000> hey can anyone help me im having issues installing a ati radeon hd 4250 propeitry driver
[22:08] <cdunn70000000000> on kubuntu 14.04
[22:12] <cdunn70000000000> anyone?
[22:15] <cdunn70000000000> ?
[22:50] <awaterme> hi guys, i need help, cant get my notebooks wifi running
[22:51] <awaterme> can anybody help?
[23:44] <valorie> awaterme: can you say more about what is happening?
[23:44] <valorie> can you see your wifi in the widget?
[23:45] <awaterme> I have the output from a wifi analysis script, I can paste it somewhere
[23:46] <awaterme> its a broadcom 4352 (quite new) and ubuntu 14.04.
[23:47] <awaterme> the wifi scans for networks, tries to connect to my network but cant connect.
[23:47] <awaterme> it keeps on asking for a password, but the password is correct.
[23:48] <awaterme> i had the wifi card working, but i dont know why. After a kernel update it was broken again, and now i am lost after trying out *everything*