[01:41] <ahayzen> popey, you still about?
[03:50] <ahayzen> popey, when you have a moment can you build a new click of the remix, i've updated the readme in the usual place, thanks :)
[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:12] <mihir> Morning dholbach
[07:12] <dholbach> hi mihir
[07:12] <mihir> dholbach: hey :)
[08:11] <penk> karni: ping
[08:31] <karni> penk: pong
[08:31] <penk> karni: wrong channel
[09:31] <dpm> mzanetti, around for the reminders call?
[09:46] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Internet Day, and happy Cat Day! :-D
[10:24] <ahayzen> davmor2, if you want something to break there is a new music-app remix version here http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/20141029/trunk/com.ubuntu.music_1.3.latest_all.click :)
[10:25] <popey> ☻
[10:41] <vitimiti> Is there a way to make the width of a DatePicker be smaller? I am trying to use it inside a units.gu(48) wide page with a label on its left, and the DatePicker is going further to the right, but setting the width to something small doesn't take any effect
[10:47] <coderus> Promoting: whatsapp client for Ubuntu Touch: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/whatsapp-compatible-native-client-for-ubuntu-phone/x/8967673
[10:55] <davmor2> ahayzen: I'll break it for you in a bit then
[10:55] <ahayzen> davmor2, thanks :)
[11:14] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you know if http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/unity-8-scope-example-openclipart/ should be on http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/?
[12:28] <mzanetti> dpm: o/
[12:28] <mzanetti> dpm: was still in the airplane today morning
[12:31] <dpm> mzanetti, hey, I hope you had a good flight back! Did you enjoy the extra time in the US?
[12:34] <mzanetti> dpm: yeah. it was great
[12:34] <mzanetti> flight back was ok too
[12:34] <dpm> cool :)
[12:34] <mzanetti> although my feet really need some resting now
[12:39] <mzanetti> dpm: so... what up for the reminders app? did I miss something in the meeting today?
[12:39] <mzanetti> did Penk join?
[12:40] <mzanetti> rpadovani: hey ho. back home in bella italia or still on the road?
[12:40] <dpm> mzanetti, yeah, so Penk tested the URI handlers branch and it worked for him, so I asked him to review the MP and approve it. He hasn't had the chance to test the libqtevernote branch, but he will too
[12:41] <mzanetti> cool. I want to have a look at the uri handler branch before marging it. I think its ok, but it requires some hack so I want to keep an eye on it
[12:41] <dpm> mzanetti, I'm using Reminders from the libqtevernote branch and it seems to work for me. I've only added a comment about a regression I noticed, which might not even be related to the branch
[12:41] <mzanetti> ok, will look at it
[12:42] <dpm> essentially about how reminders are ordered by date in the Reminders tab
[12:42] <mzanetti> ah... hmm...
[12:42] <mzanetti> I think rpadovani has a mighty sorting branch upcoming too
[12:42] <dpm> ok
[12:42] <zubozrout> popey: Hi, so since I can't use QML3D as it is abandoned, is there something I can develop in? What is the status of 3D acceleration on Ubuntu devices (under Mir)? I wonder why there is still no SDL Mir demo, at least I don't know about one - like SuperTux :), which would be fun :), there is SuperTux for Android. And from hat I remember, SDL should
[12:42] <zubozrout>  support Mir.
[12:43] <dpm> other than that, I've put everything we discussed at the sprint in bugs, and sorted them in milestones https://launchpad.net/reminders-app/+milestones
[12:44] <mzanetti> cool
[12:45] <mzanetti> yeah... we need to do some final polishing now... while it is quite nice there's still the last bit missing to make it really good
[12:47] <mzanetti> dpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/reminders-app/+bug/1379735
[12:47] <mzanetti> dpm: I don't think that's an API thing
[12:47] <mzanetti> but I might have just missed it
[12:48] <dpm> mzanetti, oh, if it's not available in the API, I guess we cannot implement it
[12:49] <mzanetti> dpm: well, better double check... but I didn't figure yet how it works
[12:49] <dpm> ok
[13:00] <popey> zubozrout: libsdl works on the device..
[13:00] <popey> zubozrout: so yes, that would be awesome. be good to start with something simple and work up
[13:05] <zubozrout> popey: So it is currently possible to create something in SDL which will work - that is awesome. Sadly, I haven't ever developed anything in SDL and porting this https://github.com/SuperTuxTeam/supertux (or anything) is sadly too much out of my possibilities.
[13:05] <popey> ok
[13:07] <mzanetti> dpm: I could imagine that they added favorites in the api but haven't added it yet to the SDK and/or docs. Might want to check with your POC@Evernote
[13:08] <dpm> mzanetti, yeah
[13:43] <popey> gcollura: did you know saucy bacon fails to start on device?
[13:44] <popey> gcollura: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8733207/
[13:44] <gcollura> popey, I know, I have a completely new version almost ready here
[13:44] <popey> ah okay ☻
[13:45] <gcollura> I don't know when I'll upload this update though, it needs some small bugfixes..
[13:56] <rpadovani> mzanetti, o/ I have my plane this afternoon, I'll be back in Europe tomorrow at 9am UTC+1, but I think I'll take the weekend to relax, so see you on monday :-)
[14:30] <dpm> have a nice flight rpadovani!
[16:24] <patriciadavila> Hi nik90: regarding the Bug #1387231 report, the alarm was deleted and still rang
[16:25] <patriciadavila> I can't reproduce it but first I disabled it and it rang and after that I deleted it and rang again
[16:26] <nik90> patriciadavila: ah...the issue of an alarm ringing when it is disabled started recently ( a week or two ago) and is in the process of being fixed
[16:26] <nik90> patriciadavila: I am however unable to reproduce an alarm ringing after it has been disabled
[16:26] <nik90> patriciadavila: although can I ask if after you deleted the alarm, did you see that alarm listed in the indicator datetime at the top?
[16:27] <patriciadavila> nik90: I understand and I just want to make sure that you are considering the case where the alarm's been deleted and still rings as well
[16:27] <nik90> since indicator datetime is the one which does the actual triggering of alarms
[16:27] <nik90> I will try to reproduce it. I am using the ubuntu rtm stable images #5 atm
[16:27] <patriciadavila> No, it wasn't listed on the date&time indicator menu, nor on the alarms screen on the clock app
[16:28] <nik90> ack
[16:28] <patriciadavila> thanks!
[17:38] <karni> ahayzen: Would you possibly know the reasons behind problems of playing back video with MediaPlayer+VideoOutput? I don't think many folks are actually making use of it, so I have little people to ask around.
[17:39] <ahayzen> karni, i know about/used MediaPlayer+AudioOutput... jhodapp is probably the guy to talk to
[17:40] <karni> ahayzen: thank you
[17:40] <jhodapp> karni, are you trying your to play video in a new app?
[17:40] <karni> jhodapp: any pointers for me? yes sir
[17:40] <ahayzen> karni, or just look at the code for mediaplayer-app
[17:40] <karni> ahayzen: good suggestion as well
[17:40] <jhodapp> karni, yes, take a look at the media-hub output at /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/media-hub.log
[17:40]  * karni looks
[17:41] <jhodapp> karni, most likely media-hub is denying your app access to the media file
[17:41] <karni> indeed..
[17:41] <jhodapp> karni, there are some strict access rules for confined apps
[17:41] <karni> jhodapp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735680/
[17:42] <karni> jhodapp: What's my next step then? I have content_exchange, content_exchange_source, audio and video policy groups
[17:42] <jhodapp> karni, where is the video file that you're trying to play (where on the filesystem)?
[17:43] <karni> jhodapp: ↑ as in the paste, it is file:///home/phablet/.config/com.ubuntu.<snip>/<snip>/downloads/4029_1414576245
[17:43] <karni> that's a video recorded with krillin
[17:43] <jhodapp> karni, ah ok, yeah that definitely isn't part of the access paths
[17:43] <jhodapp> karni, try putting it in ~/Videos for a test
[17:44] <karni> jhodapp: hrm. okay. if that works, then you suggest I start downloading my stuff into ~/Videos .. ? :S
[17:44] <karni> jhodapp: the fact I can't use a component to playback my own file is quite strange, to be honest.
[17:44] <jhodapp> karni, no, it may be a valid media-hub bug...I would ask jdstrand to advise
[17:44] <karni> sounds good
[17:44] <karni> I'll try it, then talk to Jamie
[17:44] <karni> jhodapp: thanks a bunch!
[17:45] <jhodapp> karni, np...and those rules aren't final yet...they're hard coded but need to be redone and integrated with the trust store
[17:46] <karni> jhodapp: I'm not much familiar with the trust store (although I've heard of trusted session)
[17:46] <jhodapp> karni, you can see the if/else tree of access permissions here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/media-hub/trunk/view/head:/src/core/media/player_skeleton.cpp#L144
[17:47] <karni> jhodapp: :O
[17:47] <karni> thank you :D
[17:47] <ahayzen> jhodapp, but that is part of the local apps storage why can't it access? for example can you play from the HubIncoming dir ?
[17:48] <ahayzen> oh you recommended talking to Jamie :)
[17:48] <jhodapp> karni, actually it seems like this should be matching: uri.find(std::string(".cache/" + pkgname + "/")) != std::string::npos
[17:48] <jhodapp> oh wait, .config
[17:48] <karni> right
[17:48] <jhodapp> not .cache
[17:48] <karni> oooh
[17:49] <jhodapp> karni, you should use .cache
[17:49] <karni> well, one more reason to move to .cache lol
[17:49] <jhodapp> yep, that's the problem
[17:49] <karni> jhodapp: ok. I think we can do it :)
[17:49] <karni> jhodapp: appreciated!
[17:49] <jhodapp> excellent, you shouldn't have any more problems from here
[17:49] <jhodapp> np!
[17:49] <jhodapp> let me know if you see anything else weird
[17:52] <jdstrand> karni: so, there are access rules for .local/share/<pkgname> and .cache/<pkgname>, but your path is .config/<pkgname>
[17:53] <jdstrand> karni: .config seems the wrong place to put DLC, no?
[17:53] <jdstrand> (which is why we said .cache and .local/share
[17:53] <jdstrand> )
[17:53] <jdstrand> oh, I see, you already discussed that
[17:53] <jdstrand> nm
[17:54] <karni> jdstrand: yes, thank you. we'll move to .cache (as I previously suggested, now we _have_ to do it ;D)
[17:54] <karni> jhodapp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735786/
[17:54] <karni> jhodapp: that's because our app doesn't have access to ~/Videos, right?
[17:54] <karni> I'll just try with .cache to confirm :)
[17:55] <jhodapp> karni, yes, only music and camera apps have access
[17:55] <jdstrand> right, you don't have read access to Videos
[17:55] <jhodapp> and unconfined apps of course
[17:55] <karni> Makes sense.
[19:30] <rpadovani> mzanetti, I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/updatedRole/+merge/238960 (thanks to d.c. airport wireless): we don't have tests for notes order, I think they are random failures
[20:20] <popey> nik90: i had a thought and wasn't sure whether to file it as a bug. When you miss an alarm on android (i.e. you never acknowledge it, but maybe sleep through) it shows in the clock as a "missed alarm" rather than just one in the past...
[20:20] <popey> should we have a "missed " alarm?
[20:29] <ghostmars919> Ciao a tutti
[20:30] <ghostmars919> vorrei iniziare sviluppare per ubuntu touch, c' è qualcuno che mi può dare una mano ad orientarmi un attimo?
[20:33] <ghostmars919> nessuno?
[20:39] <gcollura> ghostmars919, dimmi :)
[20:40] <ghostmars919> da dove posso reperire una buona documentazione?
[20:40] <ghostmars919> ho già installato l Ubuntu SDK
[20:42] <gcollura> ghostmars919, allora per la documentazione fai sempre riferimento a http://developer.ubuntu.com, http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/ qua trovi qualche tutorial per scaldarti le mani, qua le tutte le API disponibili http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/development/
[20:42] <ghostmars919> okay grazie mille..
[20:42] <gcollura> ti consiglio di installare tramite ppa se non sei su utopic, la versione 14.10 dell'ubuntu sdk
[20:43] <ghostmars919> dovrei averla già installata
[20:44] <gcollura> ghostmars919, fai anche riferimento alle core apps, su come vengono usati i componenti o quali sono i trucchi che potrebbero servirti :)
[20:44] <ghostmars919> con quale linguaggio mi consigli di sviluppare?
[20:45] <ghostmars919> okay ho visto ora che mi hai linkato le guide per il qml
[23:37] <brendand> popey, i can haz new music app click?
[23:37] <ahayzen> brendand, http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/readme.txt
[23:37] <popey> brendand: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/readme.txt
[23:37] <popey> ooh, beat me!
[23:37] <brendand> snap!
[23:37] <ahayzen> win
[23:37]  * ahayzen may have "music" on highlight
[23:38] <popey> hah
[23:38] <popey> i have marmite on hilight
[23:38] <ahayzen> haha
[23:39] <popey> i also have irregardless on hilight so I can berate people for using a word that doesn't exist
[23:39] <ahayzen> wow lol
[23:39] <popey> ooh, i found a bug on the way out tonight
[23:40] <ahayzen> popey, what?
[23:48] <popey> ahayzen: start playing music, left the house, unity crashed, music still playing, unity eventually started, music still playing, start music app.. sits on startup/spinner. Had to kill it and restart
[23:49] <ahayzen> popey, yeah that is across two separate media-hub bugs
[23:49] <popey> \o/
[23:49] <ahayzen> popey, bug 1380848 and...
[23:49] <ahayzen> popey, ... bug 1315566
[23:50] <ahayzen> popey, a mixture of those two right? ... and btw i had the same earlier unity8 seems to be crashing alot lately
[23:50] <popey> yeah
[23:50] <popey> known problem