[00:27] <daftykins> the game's on boys!
[00:28] <daftykins> first innings finished already
[01:18] <daftykins> aww yeah Kansas are kicking some serious ass
[01:53] <daftykins> although this leads to the idea that it's all rigged because it's going to as many games as it can, thus fuelling marketing and ticket sales
[01:58] <diddledan> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1FBxTJIYAALcDH.jpg
[01:58] <daftykins> d'aww
[01:58] <diddledan> such a cutie
[01:59] <diddledan> those big eyes!
[02:02] <daftykins> diddledan: http://i.imgur.com/dvVzwGJ.jpg
[02:06] <diddledan> <3
[02:06] <diddledan> interesting. the director's cut of "alien" (the original of the quadrilogy) is 6 minutes SHORTER than the theatrical release was
[02:07]  * diddledan reading the back of the dvd
[02:07] <daftykins> :D
[02:07] <diddledan> bluray**
[02:07] <daftykins> odd for a director to want less
[02:07] <diddledan> the disc has both versions, and lists the runtime of each
[02:08] <daftykins> i wonder what the scene is
[02:08] <daftykins> or scene(s)
[02:08] <diddledan> I wonder if I can do a side-by-side comparisson
[02:09] <diddledan> I'm in the process of ripping it off the disc so I'll have unencrypted versions of both
[02:09] <diddledan> (actually I'm doing LOTR right now)
[02:09] <diddledan> but I will be doing the aliens
[02:09] <daftykins> ooh i never saw the third LOTR
[02:10] <diddledan> I have LOTR on VHS - when I finally got a bluray capability I decided it was time to replace them
[04:00] <mapps> hi akk
[04:00] <mapps> all
[04:02] <daftykins> \o
[04:02] <mapps> still up eh:D
[04:02] <mapps> whatcha upto
[04:02] <daftykins> baseball game just finished
[04:07] <mapps> ah
[04:07] <mapps> who won kc?
[04:07] <daftykins> yep! which makes it 3-3
[04:07] <daftykins> so it's going to the final
[04:13] <daftykins> mapps: what's this Technicolor model then?
[04:16] <mapps> hm
[04:16] <mapps> sec
[04:17] <mapps> tg789vn v3
[04:18] <daftykins> heh that's my exact one.
[04:18] <mapps> :D
[04:19] <daftykins> ISP supplied.
[04:19] <mapps> wonder how many gibconnect (gibtelecom) people are on freenode
[04:19] <mapps> only 30000 people in country
[04:19] <daftykins> give that command a go then to see what speed your line is sync'd at
[04:19] <daftykins> and also look at the web admin to see what speed is provisioned
[04:19] <mapps> will do once i sort a live usb:D
[04:19] <daftykins> chop chop ;)
[04:35] <mapps> cant find a usb key gah
[04:35] <mapps> only oe i got has stuff on it hm
[04:43] <daftykins> copy it off ;)
[04:47] <mapps> i will:D
[04:47] <mapps> watching american dad b4 bed..howd u watch ur baseball? that mlbtvs quite cool
[04:47] <mapps> works well on tablets.phones and qualitys devcent
[04:54] <daftykins> nah live games aren't available on that
[04:54] <daftykins> without paying a $25 sub
[04:55] <mapps> oh
[04:55] <mapps> 365 not streaming?
[04:55] <daftykins> wha?
[04:58] <mapps> bet365.com streams baseball
[04:58] <mapps> wondered if that was what you used
[04:59] <daftykins> nah
[05:00] <daftykins> you won't find me having anything to do with betting sites :>
[05:01] <mapps> :D
[05:02] <daftykins> there's a free streaming site
[05:02] <mapps> s i=o much tv to watch
[05:02] <mapps> gotham..the flash..stalker..intruders
[05:02] <daftykins> it's pretty annoying though as you get blackout ads if you aren't watching it full screen
[05:02] <mapps> not watched any of gotham yet tho
[05:02] <daftykins> nah i've not tried that
[05:03] <mapps> u watch many tv series? flash seemed cool watched 1 ep
[05:04] <daftykins> i don't really tend to watch anything new, got a finger in the pie of a few ongoing series though
[05:05] <daftykins> Big Bang Theory, South Park, Family Guy (though i don't know why i still bother)
[05:08] <mapps> heh
[05:08] <mapps> likes simpsons
[05:08] <mapps> its got dull eh for years now
[05:08] <mapps> imo
[05:10] <daftykins> yeah
[05:34] <shauno> mornin
[05:39] <mapps> morninf shauno  actually got some sleep for once?:P
[05:40] <diddledan> he was gone before midnight!
[05:40] <mapps> ;]
[05:42] <shauno> proper normal I am :)
[05:51] <mapps> sleep time for me
[05:51] <mapps> put brooklyn nine nine on and catch some zs
[05:53] <mapps> night all
[05:55] <diddledan> http://www.darlinghq.org/
[05:55] <diddledan> osxwine
[05:55] <diddledan> winesx?
[05:55] <diddledan> it's wine only for osx/mach
[05:55] <mapps> hm
[05:55] <diddledan> binaries*
[05:56] <mapps> was there no other way to run windows stuff on osx before?
[05:56] <diddledan> other way around
[05:56] <diddledan> osx on loonix
[05:56] <mapps> oh
[05:56] <mapps> aha
[05:57] <diddledan> specifically an "is not an emaulator" of osx
[05:57] <mapps> aha
[05:57] <mapps> i see
[05:57] <diddledan> so far they have rudimentary commandline app support
[05:58] <mapps> wasnt there another windows-> linux thing besides wine
[05:58] <mapps> one for games specificaly i thought
[05:58] <mapps> or was it an abandonded project hm
[05:58] <diddledan> that is without recompiling the objective-c code against gnustep
[05:58] <diddledan> wine+games used to be cedega formally winex
[05:59] <diddledan> they don't sell to consumers any more tho
[05:59] <mapps> hat was it cegega
[05:59] <diddledan> they only sell to people that want to port their software to linux without doing any work
[05:59] <mapps> cedega
[05:59] <mapps> is i just wine for apps or something else now too?
[05:59] <mapps> never used win apps on linux for years
[05:59] <diddledan> nono it's still game-focussed
[06:00] <diddledan> they just no longer sell it as a "games on linux" but instead they sell it to the game devs as "make your one game work on linux"
[06:00] <diddledan> afaict it's sold per game-title
[06:00] <diddledan> and probably based on expected revenue
[06:01] <diddledan> it's blinking expensive, too
[06:01] <map> got cutoff
[06:01] <map> ;[
[06:01] <map> nick mappps
[06:01] <diddledan> how far did you get?
[06:01] <map> about how its sold to game devs
[06:01] <map> so is there anythng specifically for apps?
[06:02] <maps|wrk> will use my 2nd registered nick for now ;]
[06:02] <diddledan> commercially there's codeweavers' "crossover" which is essentially wine+shiny-gui
[06:03] <maps|wrk> :D
[06:03] <diddledan> if you don't need commercial support tho you're probably better sticking with the standard wine package
[06:03] <maps|wrk> free isnt it?
[06:04] <diddledan> yup
[06:04] <diddledan> wine is nicely libre
[06:04] <maps|wrk> well night..sleep time for me gotta go
[06:04] <maps|wrk> put brooklyn 99 queued up
[06:04] <maps|wrk> so il sleep to that:D
[06:04] <diddledan> nightynight
[06:04] <mapps> will have to find a new comedy to sleep to soon or recycle an old one
[06:05] <mapps> endup having seen or heard every ep too many times heh
[06:05] <mapps> been through scrubs..how i met your mother..rules of engagement..8simple ruls..etc :)
[07:23] <diddledan> new bug \o/
[07:23] <diddledan> bug #1387011
[07:50] <knightwise> morning everyone
[07:53] <MooDoo> morning
[07:55] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , how are you doing today ?
[07:55] <diddledan> morning?!
[07:55] <diddledan> it can't be
[07:56] <knightwise> But it must be , dear watson
[07:56] <MooDoo> diddledan: unfortunately, someone stole the night for me too
[07:59] <knightwise> Bastards !
[07:59] <diddledan> language timothy!
[08:18] <knightwise>  crud
[08:18] <knightwise> version of geary keeps crashing under elementary
[08:18] <knightwise> trying to install latest version from source
[08:19] <knightwise> cmake error xml2po not found ?
[08:20] <knightwise> any ideas what this might be ?
[08:29] <knightwise> aha , did an apt get remove and apt-get install and it appears to work now
[08:29] <knightwise> the version seems to have upgrade itself
[08:39] <andylockran> morning
[09:46] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Internet Day, and happy Cat Day! :-D
[09:46] <MooDoo> morning
[09:46] <davmor2> popey: ^ if ever there was gonna be a good day
[09:47] <popey> \o/ Double whammy!
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> throw in a laser show...
[09:47] <MartijnVdS> awesome day!
[09:49] <JamesTait> http://youtu.be/zi8VTeDHjcM
[09:50] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: you might like this compilation cd too https://play.spotify.com/album/5ufeHHYtjfinUjlPHRUcO8
[09:50] <diddledan> reminds me of the stage show "Avenue Q"s song "the internet is for....."
[09:59] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:00] <popey> brobostigon: i installed haiku last night
[10:01] <brobostigon> popey: cool, which version?
[10:01] <popey> 1.4 i think
[10:02] <brobostigon> R1A4 ?
[10:03] <brobostigon> anyways, i would have gone with a nightly, as the last stable release is several years old now. alot has changed in that time.
[10:03] <popey> oh, I'll do a re-install sometime then
[10:03] <popey> ta
[10:04] <diddledan> I should know what haiku is?
[10:04] <brobostigon> the last stable release, doesnt include things like the package manager, for example.
[10:04] <brobostigon> its a hybrid kernel OS, inslired by BeOS, using in part the newOS kernel.
[10:05] <brobostigon> inspired*
[10:05] <zmoylan-pi> a famous xkcd mentions it. http://3d.xkcd.com/806/
[10:07] <brobostigon> :)
[10:08] <zmoylan-pi> if i ever hear the phrase shibboleet i will go off script when helping people :-)
[10:08] <diddledan> since when has that cartoon been 3d?
[10:08] <zmoylan-pi> that was new to me too, was first link on search xkcd haiku shibboleet
[10:09] <diddledan> they're all 3d now?
[10:09] <popey> since you linked to 3.
[10:09] <popey> 3d.
[10:09] <popey> just remove that and they aren't 3d
[10:09] <diddledan> oooohhhh
[10:09] <diddledan> much better
[10:10] <diddledan> that was doing to my head what a roundabout does to an american
[10:10] <diddledan> i.e. turns me into a jibbering wreck
[10:13] <knightwise> i was wondering if there is a way to install the tools that come with Cali Linux onto another linux distro
[10:14] <popey> dammit. laptop locked up
[10:14] <popey> hmm, ssh'ed in. killed chromium, laptop continues
[10:14] <zmoylan-pi> what crime did it commit?
[10:14] <popey> it just froze
[10:44] <citizenfive> looks like 14.10 is out. I will probably upgrade next week
[10:45]  * popey sometimes wishes he'd stayed on 14.04
[10:45] <citizenfive> are there any significant differences?
[10:51] <BigRedS> We upgraded our admin PCs here to 14.10 last week with no apparent change
[11:06] <davmor2> popey: you said and let me quote you I want be upgrading this time I'm staying on LTS what happened to that plan exactly? ;)
[11:06] <popey> yeah, can't remember why i did
[11:07] <davmor2> popey: it was all new and shiny right
[11:45] <foobarry> wow. seen this video? gave me shivers. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=993124767370683&set=vb.213950138621487&type=2&theater
[11:50] <diddledan> I fixed a bug: https://code.launchpad.net/~diddledan/ubuntu/utopic/debtags/fix-for-1370043/+merge/234814
[11:51] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Seems pretty nasty, but what lead up to it? How are the police supposed to know who was/wasn't involved and who is/isn't armed? Is concealed-carry legal in that state?
[11:51] <foobarry> http://thefreethoughtproject.com/dramatic-video-shows-man-refusing-lie-police-guns-pointed/
[11:51] <foobarry> bit more info
[11:52] <diddledan> albeit that my fix was rejected in favour of getting the same fix direct from debian
[11:53] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: A biased report. I am *not* saying the police were right, I don't have enough information to make a decision one way or another
[11:54] <TwistedLucidity> Seems to be a lot of police-hate doing the rounds at the moment. Not totally sure why.
[11:54] <foobarry> US or UK?
[11:55] <TwistedLucidity> Yes
[11:55] <TwistedLucidity> Although more USA at the moment.
[11:56] <zmoylan-pi> well if you go around shooting unarmed people people tend to not trust them
[11:56] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: Who got shot?
[11:57] <zmoylan-pi> well police in uk are taser happy and there was that poor brazilian student a few years back
[11:57] <TwistedLucidity> By that measure, then we should hate every group of people.
[11:58] <foobarry> some place caleld ferguson? i don't remmeber reading much about it
[11:59] <TwistedLucidity> Tragic mistakes happen. Some people are just plain nasty (police and general public). What we get to hear about mostly is the bad stuff as that sells. "Police do job" isn't going to sell papers or get clicks.
[11:59] <foobarry> i like UK police
[11:59] <foobarry> cannot offer educated opinion on the US but i don't like guns
[11:59] <foobarry> or that video
[12:00] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Don't go to N.Ireland then
[12:00] <foobarry> i've been
[12:00] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: You know if the Northern police still carry?
[12:00] <foobarry> i think it was the first week you could go in shops in belfast without getting search
[12:00] <foobarry> aroudn 15yrs ago
[12:01] <TwistedLucidity> By and large all the cops I've dealt with have been fairly decent. The USA ones are much more...stand off-ish. To be expected, that USA imho is a nation that live in a perpetual state of fear.
[12:02] <TwistedLucidity> "...the USA....that lives in..."
[12:03] <TwistedLucidity> The police may not be perfect, but I'd rather have them than some baying vigilante mob (like those commentors on thefreethoughtproject)
[12:52] <foobarry> i didn't read the comments
[12:53] <zmoylan-pi> reading comments on the web is exposing oneself to pure distilled stupidity
[12:53] <foobarry> the dark heart of stupid
[13:02] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Thtat's a great title. Now you just need to write the boook
[13:04] <zmoylan-pi> chapter 1: round them all up; put them in a field; and bomb the bunnies
[13:16] <foobarry> it was a dark and stormy night. Barry grabbed the 6-pack of beers from the passenger seat and got out of the car. Grimacing against the wind and rain, he trotted torwards the porch of the new-build semi detached house he had recently purchased on the ouskirts of Basingstoke. There were no longer any puddles on the smooth tarmac surface of his driveway, rather a mass of standing water. Fumbling his keys
[13:16] <foobarry>  as he hastened to enter the warmth of his house, he dropped them in the muddy flowerbed. Muttering to himself as he crossed the threshold, kicking off his hiking style trainers that had never taken his chubby legs onto countryside, he flipped the lid on his laptop before he had taken his coat off. Water ran down his sleeve and gathered into small pools on the lid of the laptop. Impatiently he hit the
[13:16] <foobarry> F5 key. There it was, the message he had been waiting for. How he would reply in the next few moments would change his life forever.
[13:20] <foobarry> my nephew wants a gaming headset 7.1 :S
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: at such close proximity to ear, does the surround have any effect?
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity> Hang on, there's a video about what it's all bollocks....
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: This. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Seems to be more about the recording if you ask me
[13:25] <foobarry> wow, bag head
[13:25] <foobarry> 1:30
[13:28] <Myrtti> 7.1 headset?
[13:29] <Myrtti> how is that even
[13:32] <foobarry> i don't know
[13:39] <TwistedLucidity> A 7.1 headset is a normal, over-the-ear with various small speakers contained therein. They're best used with diamond coated audio cabled. The red ones go faster
[13:40] <TwistedLucidity> As the video proves, a decent set of standard headphone and a good recording will give the same effects. You only have two ears after all....
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> It's simply harder with speakers to create the "sweet spot" where the effect would work. So we go for the multi-speaker set-up.
[13:42] <foobarry> gaming headset has mic with noise cancellation etc, plus extra snake oil
[13:42] <TwistedLucidity> Cue the audiophile to tell me I'm wrong....
[13:44] <TwistedLucidity> Noise cancellation is a thing, but even lower end 'phones can ship with it these days
[13:45] <TwistedLucidity> Heck, a PC with a mic could probably feed in the anti-noise regardless of how cheap the headphones were
[13:48] <foobarry> the worst thing about audiophiles is their terrible taste in music
[14:01] <diddledan> haha @ cat vomiting on popey
[14:01] <diddledan> well not literally on
[14:01] <diddledan> on popey's sofa (so he says in tweetland)
[14:06] <popey> yeah
[14:06] <popey> stupid cat
[14:07] <popey> i should stop giving him truffles for lunch
[14:07] <diddledan> popey, I love the timing
[14:07] <diddledan> right on cue
[14:10] <diddledan> http://www.welivesecurity.com/2014/10/29/white-house-hack/
[14:30] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan: cat barf > /dev/sofa?
[14:31] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: while due-live-via-ubuntu-on-air; do cat barf > /dev/sofa; done
[14:41] <foobarry> ./configure; make hairball
[14:46] <MartijnVdS> there's an "emerge" joke in there too
[15:03] <Myrtti> http://www.stanleycolors.com/2013/10/halloween-costumes-programmers-people/
[15:09] <popey> haah, they're great
[15:21] <Myrtti> carbon fiber is amazing.
[15:26] <MartijnVdS> So is fibre optic cable ;)
[15:26] <foobarry> so are crisps
[15:27] <popey> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-dragonfly-futurefon--3
[15:27] <popey> *boggle*
[15:27] <foobarry> why isn't chrome remembering my passwords anymore?
[15:28] <BigRedS> because security
[15:28] <MartijnVdS> Google alzheimer
[15:30] <Myrtti> MartijnVdS: 1mm knitting pins. How does it even work!
[15:30] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: I don't know. ask my mom
[15:30] <MartijnVdS> she's the family knitting guru
[15:31] <Myrtti> I just got a pack of them and by golly they're thin
[15:32] <foobarry> missis wants a jumbo flyer now
[15:32] <foobarry> this knitting malarkey so £££
[15:32] <foobarry> and my house smells of farmyard
[15:37] <Myrtti> popey: indiegogo flexible funding... all flags are up
[15:42] <foobarry> that girl has annoying accent.
[15:42] <diddledan> popey: the aspect ratio on the dual screen mode will be weird
[15:42] <popey> the non-existence of it will be more of an issue I fear
[15:42] <foobarry> pyramid scheme of selling
[15:42] <foobarry> 99$
[15:42] <foobarry> hah too late sucker
[15:43] <foobarry> also, ARM or Intel?
[15:43] <foobarry> or both
[15:44] <diddledan> foobarry: it seems at least part of it runs android and another part can run windows
[15:44] <diddledan> but. windows does arm now so meh
[15:44] <foobarry> does it?
[15:44] <foobarry> windwos RT
[15:44] <foobarry> != windows
[15:44] <Myrtti> the girl is almost certainly a paid actress I think
[15:45] <foobarry> so full spec windows requires a denser motherboard than a black hole
[15:46] <foobarry> detachable phablet
[15:46] <foobarry> all seems too far fetched
[15:46] <foobarry> and idealistic
[15:48] <foobarry> umm
[15:48] <foobarry> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-if-convertible-by-idealfuture-3-devices-2-screens-1-data-plan
[15:49] <foobarry> what's going on there?
[15:50] <diddledan> "Double the Resolution: when combined, the Dragonfly provides over 12 inches of vivid sapphire crystal protected display area."
[15:51] <diddledan> they claim the windows bit will run an x86
[15:57] <popey> so yeah, lolz
[15:59] <diddledan> the "girl in the video" is supposedly here: https://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/4815558
[15:59] <diddledan> I like the photo of the style you'd get in a dating scam of her in a car so you can't tell anything about her surroundings but makes it look like she is a social person by being outdoors
[16:00] <foobarry> and she has tattoos and stuff
[16:01] <foobarry> i can't work out what happened with the one from last year
[16:01] <foobarry> did they deliver anything?
[16:04] <diddledan> I think the one from a year ago just got reposted
[16:04] <diddledan> they look remarkably alike
[16:05] <diddledan> right down to the "specs"
[16:29] <foobarry> what package provides the basic sans/monospace fonts etc?
[16:29] <foobarry> x11 fonts?
[16:30] <popey> dpkg -S /path/to/fontfile
[16:30] <popey> if you already have it
[16:32] <foobarry> ta
[16:33] <foobarry> think it was urw or ghostscript fonrts
[16:35] <foobarry> hmm now not so sure
[19:16] <Azelphur> so, did anyone hear the fighter jet?
[19:28] <mapps> ugh
[19:28] <popey> wat?
[19:28] <mapps> just done spinning..sweating like a pig
[19:28] <mapps> :D
[19:36] <popey> https://twitter.com/RoyalAirForceUK/status/527517938056966144
[19:36] <popey> Azelphur: ^
[19:40] <Azelphur> popey: yep
[20:15] <mapps> work site went down again
[20:15] <mapps> :D
[20:15] <mapps> every time its a big night..goes down
[20:31] <diddledan> popey: Azelphur: I'm glad they're doing what they can to keep us safe
[20:32] <diddledan> plus points for sonic shenanigans
[20:32] <diddledan> we need more sonic booms at random times
[20:34] <diddledan> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11196635/RAF-Typhoons-escort-foreign-plane-into-Stansted-Airport.html <-- nice intercept of calm pilot relaying instructions that end with "or you will be shot down"
[20:37] <mapps> :D
[20:37] <mapps> dont get why my raspberry pi stopped responding ip hadnt changed..wireless was on ip the same etc..someone went round to check
[20:37] <diddledan> much respect to the military!
[20:38] <mapps> i can ssh to it now its been rebooted..but thats no good i need it to run 24/7
[20:38] <diddledan> my server died early this morning. I've not had a chance to figure out what's wrong with it yet
[20:38] <mapps> the wireless was on..and i could acces my ip cam showing my lounge..but the pi just dead yet it was on when my friend went round
[20:39] <mapps> but apache/vpn wouldnt respond
[20:39] <diddledan> kernel panic?
[20:39] <mapps> mainly want it to bypass country restrictions..watching the apprentice etc
[20:39] <mapps> and when i go to russia..pretty sure loads will be blocked there..latvia blocked quite a bit
[20:39] <mapps> how would i check..dmesg|
[20:39] <mapps> ?
[20:39] <diddledan> I'm not sure you can once rebooted
[20:41] <mapps> ah
[20:41] <mapps> damn
[20:41] <mapps> couldnt access twitter couldnt access works websitre etc
[20:41] <mapps> all came back blocked wherever i had wifi in latvia
[20:43] <diddledan> you know movie age ratings? what age range is "appropriate audiences"?
[20:43] <mapps> hm
[20:43] <mapps> what film says that
[20:43] <diddledan> many trailers do
[20:44] <diddledan> the green thing that pops up before a trailer
[20:44] <awilkins> BBFC ratings are U, PG, 12A, 15, 18
[20:44] <diddledan> yeah I think this is american
[20:44] <awilkins> I see "G" on Netflix content
[20:44] <awilkins> For "Generally suitable"
[20:44] <awilkins> Although I've also seen it applied to a whole bunch of Anime that has more fanservice than I'm comfortable exposing to a 10 year old
[20:45] <diddledan> this is the example that reminded me: http://vimeo.com/108591141
[20:45] <awilkins> Permission denied
[20:45] <foobarry> guys. i have a tub of polyfilla that dried out quite a bit, it's soft but firm
[20:45] <foobarry> can i rehydrate it?
[20:45] <diddledan> try this one: https://citizenfourfilm.com/trailer/
[20:46] <diddledan> foobarry: www.dioralyte.co.uk
[20:46] <awilkins> Guessing that it's the same as PG
[20:46] <mapps> is that a cinema rls heard of it but dunno much about this citizen four film
[20:46] <awilkins> Citizen Four is about Edward Snowden, no?
[20:46] <diddledan> foobarry: I made that site
[20:47] <diddledan> foobarry: it sucks
[20:47] <diddledan> yes it is
[20:48] <awilkins> http://www.mpaa.org/film-ratings/
[20:48] <awilkins> MPAA don't list a rating like that
[20:48] <awilkins> How grand
[20:48] <awilkins> Maybe it's some special "info-terrorist" rating
[20:48] <awilkins> "Only watch this film if you LIKE colonic examinations for the presence of thumbdrives at the airport."
[20:49] <diddledan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailer_(promotion)#MPAA_Rating_cards_for_theatrical_trailers
[20:50] <awilkins> Ah, so it means the trailer is OK for the film you are watching
[20:50] <awilkins> Basically pointless out of context
[20:51] <diddledan> so why include the banner on an internet video?!
[20:51] <diddledan> it's silly
[20:56] <awilkins> Getting screen softlocks on my laptop
[20:56] <awilkins> Annoying
[20:56] <awilkins> They just stop the rendering
[20:57] <awilkins> They don't stop the event loops in the UI
[20:57] <diddledan> I'm getting those on my macbook pro too
[20:57] <diddledan> (when in ubuntu)
[20:57] <awilkins> You can fix them by ctrl-alt-F1 and ctrl-alt-F7
[20:57] <diddledan> does apport catch them at all?
[20:57] <awilkins> No
[20:57] <diddledan> it does on mine
[21:04] <awilkins> Reckon it's to do with this
[21:04] <awilkins> [25923.628159] ACPI Warning: \_SB_.PCI0.PEGP.DGFX._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20140424/nsarguments-95)
[21:05] <awilkins> Oh, liking the new terminal feature
[21:05] <awilkins> When you resize scrollback that was too wide it now reflows it
[21:12] <awilkins> Aha : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1310762
[21:15] <Sockseven> Anyone know how to get the ram channel configuration on linux?
[21:28] <awilkins> How do you configure your laptop to only use the Intel integrated graphics?
[21:30] <holly> im a newbie to ubuntu i installed ubuntu 14 a week ago its now very slow and constantly freezing  i dont know what to do
[21:30]  * awilkins has switched to Intel only in nvidia-settings
[21:31] <holly> anybody help me
[21:32] <holly> speed up my ubuntu keeps freezing
[21:32] <awilkins> holly, Is the disk thrasing?
[21:32] <holly> only used it a weeek
[21:32] <holly> no
[21:32] <awilkins> holly, Laptop?
[21:32] <holly> i keep browising internet etc but it keeps freezing
[21:32] <holly> yes laptop
[21:33] <awilkins> Laptop with one of those combo / Intel / NVidia GPU sets?
[21:33] <holly> dont now my laptop is a packard bell easynote TE69KB series
[21:34] <awilkins> Test for you, when it freezes, does ctrl-alt-F1 , ctrl-alt-F7 unfreeze it
[21:34] <holly> it had windows 8 installed in it
[21:34] <holly> but i got a friend to install ubuntu
[21:34] <holly> he did it in about 30 mins was ok at first now it keeps freezing very slow as well
[21:35] <holly> ohhh ok
[21:35] <holly> ill write that down
[21:35] <holly> but do you get viruses with ubuntu?
[21:35] <awilkins> While they are technically possible, if you only install packages from the official archives they should be virtually impossible
[21:37] <holly> i installed bleachbit but dont really know what it is
[21:37] <holly> problem is i dont know how to install it
[21:38] <holly> uninstall it
[21:40] <holly> is there a programme like ccleaner which i use for windows for ubuntu
[21:40] <holly> any alternative
[21:41] <holly> i clear the history but it is still slow
[21:41] <holly> and freezes
[21:44] <diddledan> awilkins: my optimus seems fully supported on my work laptop with the nvidia proprietary (NOT the proprietary-updates) with utopic
[21:44] <diddledan> I just this second installed that to test it
[21:45] <awilkins> Hmm. I think I was getting the lockups with nouveau as well
[21:45] <awilkins> Have configured it to be Intel only and they seem to have stopped
[21:48] <awilkins> Scrolling in browser seems smoother as well
[22:16] <mapps> lol modern familys so funny
[22:17] <mapps> one of the few series thats still good after 6 seasons
[22:48] <diddledan> completely off-the-wall question but to anyone's anecdotal knowledge has canonical or some other actor ever considered adopting seamless live kernel upgrades similar to what suse and redhat are investigating and oracle already does with unbreakable+uptrack?
[22:49] <diddledan> uptrack - that should be ksplice
[22:52] <popey> thats a lot of work
[22:52] <diddledan> yeah, as far as I can see it requires lots of engineering on every update to ensure it applies seamlessly
[22:52] <popey> exactly
[22:52] <diddledan> it's a cool concept tho
[22:53] <diddledan> manpower is going to be the issue I guess
[22:53] <diddledan> and brains
[22:53]  * popey notes 358 days uptime on a canonical box, and assumes it has ksplice
[22:54] <popey> pretty sure they patented it too
[22:54] <diddledan> it annoyed me that oracle bought them and closed it off
[22:55] <diddledan> you can still get the uptrack client for "desktop ubuntu" as a proof of concept
[22:55] <diddledan> or rather you could last I looked
[22:55] <diddledan> I'm gonna go looking now
[22:56] <diddledan> looks like they're only working with LTS these days
[23:07] <popey> wise
[23:10] <shauno> it seems less practical to have an uptime fetish on non-LTS releases, given the 9 month support cycle now
[23:13] <diddledan> point
[23:20] <brobostigon> new pebble android app update, no breakage yet.
[23:42] <diddledan> I just got confirmation of "fix committed" on a bug I created and resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geos/+bug/1274916
[23:44] <diddledan> my patch was the bases of the updated debian package
[23:44] <diddledan> basis