[03:10] wow that maaz message, only more than 7 months ago >.< [03:53] chat later all [03:57] Morning. What'd I miss? [04:37] *yawn* [04:38] morning nlsthzn have you at least slept some [04:38] Kilos: By the way, amanica on freenode told me "tell Kilos I said Hi! (I was a bit AFK and thus missed the meeting, will scan through it now..)" 5 hours, 47 minutes and 12 seconds ago [04:38] morning uncle Kilos , yup I slept (even if it doesn't feel that way :p) [04:39] lost sleep is almost impossible to catch up. takes about a week of 8 to 10 hours sleep a day [05:10] Hey Kilos nlsthzn [05:10] hi theblazehen battery charged? [05:11] hehe [05:11] Kilos: he he, kinda. I can only charge at the PC, so at 74% [05:11] eish [05:12] Yeah, normally at like 90% in the morning [05:12] But won't be using this phone much today... Data problems [05:12] more eish [05:12] You say cellc reception sucks where you at hey Kilos ? [05:12] what a hassle it is hey [05:12] Yeah :( [05:13] it used to be only edge [05:13] Hmm.. Gonna PM [05:13] but im happy with 8ta 2+1 for R149 [05:13] ok [05:15] hi theblazehen [05:28] Kilos: more sir [05:28] hi apie thats good [05:28] Hi Apie [05:28] you dont need to tell me who you are [05:29] Apie (~kbmonkey@105.184.86.215) has joined [05:29] I install an irc client on the phone. So I use this nick with it [05:29] Apie: tried quassel? You use irssi on desktop IIRC? [05:31] There is a quassel plugin for irssi, and quasseldroid is great on phone [05:31] theblazehen: I don't use quassel, I use a shell account over the ocean to ssh through. That one stays online :) [05:33] Andchat on the mobile. I like it, it is super small [05:33] Apie: ah, OK :) [05:34] Quassels worth a look at however [05:34] I keep telling myself that at least. It costs me R60 / month for VPS and backups :( [05:34] I don't like how so many Android apps ask for so many permissions. Andchat does not ask tho :) [05:35] Ah :) well anyway, gotta go, writing test [05:35] Good luck! [05:35] Thanks! Hope I don't need it! [05:35] Ill look at quassel site [05:35] good luck theblazehen [05:41] Quassel seems to support ssl. You use it Kilos ? [05:41] nope i cant get it to bloep [05:41] hehe [05:42] i have it installed though, will look at it again [05:47] I should find some time to write up a meeting report [05:47] good [05:48] we we must ask nuvolari to write some reports too [05:48] you missed many meets [05:48] Work is silly these days. They need us record every thing we do with how long it takes [05:48] eish [05:48] We have to log 7 hours a day [05:49] That is a lot [05:49] Realistically most people and myself struggle to focus that long :) [05:49] time for an IT community strike [05:50] Ha ha [05:50] Ja I read somewhere that IT & developers are the most over worked. [05:51] the country will come to a stand still [05:51] But that was probably on a U.S. Study too [05:51] Its all the big cheese heads exploiting us geeks [05:52] and every year more and more is expected in the same time [05:53] like if pro and cronies strike all the govt servers can be off. that will rock some boats [05:55] morning peeps [05:56] hi ThatGraemeGuy [05:56] now im gonna come to you for help, got xubuntu last night [05:56] hehe [06:00] morning [06:01] I'm still not packed :/ [06:01] maybe 50% [06:01] sjoe [06:12] * nlsthzn sees that there is an IRC channel specifically about loco stuff - #ubuntu-locoteams will be hanging out and asking many questions there :) [06:12] not sure how much help i'll be, i install my machine and then use it. your problems tend to come from fiddling around with stuff :P [06:13] actually i think all my probs have been from bad drives ThatGraemeGuy not a glitch since i installed kde on the new one [06:15] Morning everyone [06:15] hi bduk [06:16] but the bad drives have taught me lots [06:22] hmmm... found this little gem - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamsBestPracticesandGuidelines [06:24] sjoe [06:24] monthly reports we havent done i think [06:25] I will do the monthly reports today if all goes well [06:25] or at least I will add what I can to each month :p [06:38] hey oom Kilos ... I see that you have also been hacking at the wiki adding the stuff about the meetings [06:39] so there are two main wiki edits a month I can see so far... the ZATeam/Meetings one and ZATeam/TeamReports [06:45] hm... i think it was monkey . i went and looked only [06:45] i dunno bout hacking [06:45] keep up the good work neelsie [06:47] * nlsthzn hasn't done anything yet than open lots of pages :p [06:48] fill them hehe [06:48] we dont realise how much maia used to do for us [06:50] This is true Kilos [06:51] someone must do something about this life thing that catches up to peeps [06:51] ugh, logging into launchpad to edit wiki's takes FOREVER [06:52] this may take until xmas even [06:52] lol [06:52] * nlsthzn goes to kill stuff virtually while he waits [06:56] lol you and gaming [06:57] Test went well :D [06:59] Good theblazehen ! yey [07:00] All my studying was almost literally just opening a book. Lol [07:01] nice theblazehen [07:04] Going afk, signal sucks [07:33] * nlsthzn is back :) [07:34] only dies ones today [07:34] must not be trying hard enough [07:43] lol [08:29] hmm... [08:29] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/113037-vodacom-exposing-your-number-to-every-website-you-visit.html [08:33] wbb wanna take one drive out here [08:42] Hmm, time to build a list ;) [09:03] Kilos: thx for that link! How interesting. I tested it, mtn does not send out my no [09:03] cool [09:03] not good news though. many peeps use vc [09:04] i have it on my ceel so ian can fone we with their 5 bucks an hour thing [09:10] Is it the cell number in reverse DNS thing? [09:10] Can't check link [09:11] When we more active than ##linux... [09:13] you want the link again? [09:13] i can shorten it as well [09:14] Maaz, shorten http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/113037-vodacom-exposing-your-number-to-every-website-you-visit.html [09:14] Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/z3wbkr [09:20] good morning [09:21] morning charl [09:27] hi charl [09:27] dag bushtech [09:27] Kilos: data low :( [09:27] oi sorry i forgot [09:28] sjoe today and 2 more after that [09:28] Ya :/ [09:29] i saw somewhere this morning R4 for 100m [09:29] 13 MB.. [09:30] * nlsthzn will die without broadband and a reasonable data plan for mobile [09:30] Can't get it :( no airtime on my contract [09:30] Telkom has unveiled a new range of mobile deals, including a 100MB for R4 product which lasts for 2 days. [09:30] nlsthzn: I get 1 GB/month on mobile [09:30] Kilos: R40/GB? Nice... [09:31] dag Kilos Loop Xubuntu? [09:31] me too and it isn't really enough :/ wife decided to watch some youtube and the wifi doesn't extend to the room so got a nasty surprise this month :/ [09:31] ya but in 2 day packages [09:31] eish [09:32] Kilos: 3GB/month for R120... [09:33] thats cheap\ [09:34] Ya [09:35] but i cant go contracts [09:35] Kilos: why? I forgot [09:35] income is as stable as mtn [09:36] Ah.. [09:36] now you see it noww you dont [09:36] luckily ian helps with data when he can [09:36] interesting how most people here don't have contracts... and the price for data etc. is often cheaper than contract [09:36] lol and at times i gotta help him [09:36] just less convenient [09:37] nlsthzn: I get 1 GB for R69/month [09:40] morning nlsthzn, Kilos, theblazehen [09:40] Maaz: coffee on [09:40] * Maaz washes some mugs [09:40] that is a good price me thinks [09:40] haven't been in SA for more than five years except for a visit or two so can [09:40] cant say [09:41] I am paying more here currently... funny thing is the UAE is by far the most expensive when it comes to telecommunication in this part of the world :/ [09:41] Hi charl [09:43] theblazehen: are we talking 3g? in NL 1 GB will set you back about 10 euro per month [09:43] s that sounds rather cheap by comparison [09:43] charl: yeah [09:44] Coffee's ready for charl! [09:44] * theblazehen might have a way to get uncapped 4G :D [09:44] But will have a hit on performance :( [09:44] Maaz: thans [09:44] charl: Excuse me? [09:44] Maaz: thanks [09:44] charl: Okay :-) [09:44] can't type this early before having coffee :P [09:44] Lol [09:54] * nlsthzn never made a torrent file of the RMS speech in Durban... wonder if anybody cares :p [09:55] * Squirm looks around the channel [09:56] superfly: 3 more days... [09:57] woo! [09:57] * nlsthzn hopes there will be many more days than only 3... got stuff to do :p [09:59] nlsthzn: I do! [10:00] theblazehen, so you want the RMS video? [10:00] If the ogv or whatever is less than 1GB then I'll seed on a 1gbps connection too [10:00] Yeah [10:01] file is only +-360mb mkv [10:01] I am downloading it again now... [10:01] Alright, ty. [10:01] I will upload to a tracker and give a link on the mailing list later today for peeps to get it and seed it [10:01] Mkv is RMS-approved? [10:02] doubt it :p [10:02] btw the link to the file is http://167.88.47.164/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv [10:02] nlsthzn, what about putting that on our page too [10:02] or the link only [10:02] have added links to it to the report [10:02] for sept 2013 [10:02] cool [10:03] I'm not gonna ssh in to make a torrent now.. Will wait for yours later [10:03] Also: http://rms.sexy [10:03] Lol [10:04] nlsthzn, and talk to them peeps about dropping the evaluation thing [10:04] say for locos older than 5 years or something [10:06] nah, keeps em honest and hard working :p [10:06] no man its a schlep for us [10:06] we don't need to do it [10:06] they can hassles new locos [10:07] nothing like a free lunch [10:07] to stay official we have to [10:07] only free software [10:07] we want, they want [10:07] such is life :p [10:08] no man it like telling your mother if she doesnt buy you sweets anymore then she cant be your mother [10:09] not really [10:12] sigh [10:12] :) just because I want something to be true doesn't make it so or don't you agree uncle Kilos ? [10:13] no man [10:13] we like 9 years old as a loco , is the re eavaluation gonna go on forever [10:14] they have mentioned cancelling it already a year or 2 back [10:16] btw what is happening about your arab loco [10:22] it got hi-jacked [10:22] oh and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13877196/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv.torrent is the torrent file... not sure of a more elegant way of distributing the link [10:22] theblazehen, ^^ [10:23] will need peeps to start taking from me to see if it actually works :p [10:27] the old group made a new open source group and they had a release party for 14.10 :) [10:28] the "loco" I heard nothing off so I suspect nothing happened [10:34] phew... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports done(ish) ... it is possible there where activities that I missed... like release parties and hackathons but I don't have any links to blog posts and or social media links etc... [10:35] we can ask tumbles tonight. i think there was a hackathon thing last year [10:35] remember [10:35] maybe superfly remembers moree [10:35] more as well [10:40] nlsthzn: ill have a peek a bit late :) [10:45] hmm... === Rynomster is now known as SDCDev [12:09] nlsthzn: make that torrent file !!! [12:09] nlsthzn: do it !!! [12:09] oh sorry you already did :P had to scroll down [12:10] put it up on the pirate bay or somewhere where people can find it [12:34] hi liamT [12:38] hey [12:48] charl: got a link to it? [12:50] theblazehen: http://167.88.47.164/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv [12:50] Ah, thought link for torrent. Ty anyway [12:50] theblazehen: oh sorry the torrent is https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13877196/stallman_ukzn_20140906_960x540theora_128vorbis.mkv.torrent [12:50] Kk, ty [12:50] np [12:50] Will seed later [12:50] If I have free ram [12:51] I'm cheap.. My vps is using more swap than ram right now [12:51] hmmm not sure how it's been encoded but omxplayer doesn't want to play it on the raspberry pi [12:51] On irc while I wait for phpmyadmin to load [12:52] oh it's probably the ogg theora/vorbis [12:52] which is good though [12:53] ooh the quality is horrible but that's not interesting [12:53] vlc plays it perfectly [12:54] ooh it's 2,5 hours :D have to put some time aside for it then [13:16] did anyone get the mailing list mail with the torrent file? [13:18] Yup I got it [13:18] never mind I see you have :p [13:18] :D [13:18] thanks for the reply kbmonkey , er Apie :p [13:22] On mobile :) [13:26] hahaha [13:26] same thing different name [13:26] I know :p [13:26] * nlsthzn will be back later [13:38] ah this is very interesting [14:08] The RMS talk? Yes it was great. Like to watch that recording. [14:27] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/113061-255tbps-speed-achieved-on-a-single-fibre-strand.html [14:27] hmm [14:27] home time [14:27] last day of work has been finished [14:44] cool [14:49] That speed is disgusting when I can't get 1MB [14:50] whew thats fast hey [14:50] no waiting to open sites [14:53] Squirm, when do you start travelling [14:55] hehe https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0gEkvDCYAApOjh.jpg [14:56] oh andrew gave it here last night methinks [15:00] heh what are you struggling to get a meg to? [15:01] lol, I would go nuts on anything that wasnt giving me a helluva lot more than 10 [15:01] my internet access must feel like its all on the lan or I get pissy [15:01] ;p [15:02] Symmetria, your repo works fine [15:03] better than archive.ubuntu.co.za thing [15:04] and we have a long tailed monkey here [15:11] Got vps downloading torrent [15:11] Not started yet... [15:12] hi there ,or must i say help me plz..........??????? [15:13] Hi Jp__ [15:13] hi blaz [15:13] i am having problems with ubuntu 14.10 [15:14] it shows my network is connected but i can't use browser [15:14] hi Jp__ [15:15] are you using 3g modem? [15:16] Jp__: can you ping anywhere? [15:16] you dont ask for help here you state what your problem is then ask can anyone help then you wait patiently [15:16] nope i have a network cable or i use the wifi but like i say ,it shows connected but no internet acces [15:16] o ok cool [15:16] try disconnecting and reconnecting [15:17] and whatch what it says [15:17] watch as well [15:17] i can ping the rounter and its send but no receiving [15:17] have you used the router before 14.10 [15:17] so its setup to let you go online [15:18] fiy - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines#Benefits_of_Verification [15:18] Jp__: when you run "ip li", how many interfaces do you see? [15:19] 2 [15:19] and i am working on a other laptop with the network so internet is fine [15:20] sort him theblazehen [15:20] * Kilos hates routers [15:23] Jp__: does the one that's not lo0 or lo or whatever say DOWN,UP, or UNKNOWN? [15:23] Do you have an ipv4 address when you run "IP ad"? [15:27] yes the lo ( yes i have a ip address [15:29] Jp__: and other is UP? [15:29] Is there a route when you run "ip ro"? [15:30] wel only the eth0 is up and the wlan is down [15:31] yes there is a router [15:31] I'm out of ideas, and gotta go.. Maybe post on the mailing list, or wait for another guy to help [15:32] thanks any why blaze [15:33] Jp__, can you login to the router. my stupid one i have to enable each pc to use the internet individually [15:34] yea i can [15:35] just look if it allows your 14.10 access to the net [15:35] charl, come up with some clever ideas man [15:36] ha ha ha ha ha [15:36] ok wil do so [15:46] Finally home yipee [15:46] hehe [15:50] we need more clever peeps here [16:11] wat wat [16:11] Kilos: reading [16:12] weird one, not sure [16:12] seems like he's gone now [16:15] this RMS talk is _really_ good [16:15] try to get the word out about it [16:16] Kilos: are you still running that twitter account ? [16:16] yip [16:16] when im not forgetting [16:17] you mean ubuntuza [16:17] yes post the torrent [16:17] with nlsthzn's permission of course [16:18] not sure if he wants a link to his dropbox posted there [16:18] is there a magnet link? then you can simply post the magnet link [16:19] i dont know what a magnet link is [16:19] lets see if the pro is here [16:19] inetpro, ping [16:20] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme [16:20] it's a string of chracters that lets you find torrents [16:21] or get the torrent up on ubuntu-za.org [16:21] neelsie can put it there i think [16:21] Kilos: how large is the Ubuntu iso download roughly? [16:21] 1.1g [16:22] I have data to get a copy :) thanks sir! [16:23] yw [16:23] you going unity? [16:27] Yes I think so. I want to use whatever is the default [16:27] What do you recommend? [16:27] ok its not bad [16:27] 14.10? [16:27] Yes 14.10 [16:27] i havent looked at that' [16:28] ill stick to lts [16:28] Oh lts is .04's hey [16:29] yip [16:29] Donating some to them while I'm at it [16:29] and every second year only [16:29] next one is 16.04 [16:29] I want to try latest. Want to give it to guys at work. [16:30] cool thats with mir and systemd [16:31] I'm already running systemd here. Half way there ;) [16:31] sjoe [16:31] Sjoe am tired today [16:32] eta 4d 12h [16:32] wow [16:33] you need to go telkom modem [16:33] the 157 [16:33] i get isos in under 30 mins [16:33] The modem is fine. Trouble is I live in a spot where the coverage crosses each other [16:33] ai! [16:34] The map show me exactly on the spot [16:34] Should speed up [16:35] Ill try my wget while trick :) [16:35] you need it if its gonna take 4 days [16:36] thats worse than gprs speed [16:37] 2 days now. See [16:37] lol [16:37] Ha ha. Win! [16:37] still worse than gprs [16:39] If it hits max it will dl in an hour [16:39] meanwhile I go prep some food 8) [16:39] thats ok [16:41] Then I want to see what neelsie added to the wiki, and learn some more 3d coding math. Eish not enough time in a day [17:30] sjoe just saw a fashion how in paris where i could eat all the models [17:30] everything made from chocolate [17:43] Haha sounds sweet [17:43] yeah, i love chocolate [17:44] dont forget you gotta ask the pro and blaze for some feedback on sfd [17:45] eta 2h [17:45] and actually ask in the lists for any other info [17:45] oh thats not too bad [17:45] im sure the dbnlug peeps have been doing things [17:46] Kilos: what's this now? [17:46] you were at sfd [17:46] i think thats what its called [17:47] you and pro were there [17:47] Links to events we had [17:47] we need some feedback on what you heard saw and learned [17:48] Ya [17:48] OK. Will chat with him when he's here [17:48] cool [17:48] inetpro, you here? [17:49] he is here , just pretending to be busy [17:49] ah, lol [17:49] hehe he always tells me he is always here [18:04] good evening [18:06]