[00:00] <Bashing-om> givello: Not giving up yet . From the liveUSB what returns -> sudo fdisk -lu <- and let's see if we can boot manually from grub, see what happens.
[00:00] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: might be something buggy in 14.10
[00:00] <mybox1776> Can anyone explain why this is happening?  http://pastebin.com/fckkSQfh
[00:00] <mekhami> I'm having a hard time changing my default terminal to zsh
[00:00] <mekhami> it keeps going back to terminal @.@
[00:00] <mekhami> or maybe i'm just dumb and i need to remap ctrl+alt+t
[00:01] <Bashing-om> givello: That is an Xorg thing !  OK, what graphics card are you using ?
[00:01] <lotuspsychje> !floppy | mybox1776
[00:01] <SchrodingersScat> mekhami: what does terminal mean to you?
[00:01] <mekhami> SchrodingersScat, i don't care to get into semantics here so if i mis-spoke just correct me and move on...
[00:02] <mekhami> it kept going back to bash
[00:02] <givello> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8725876/
[00:02] <mekhami> or fish actually
[00:02] <Blizzy> this is the error I keep getting when I try to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox. http://gyazo.com/659c5b82de6a51a50371a0418d6b89ff
[00:02] <mekhami> yeah it keeps going back to fish
[00:02] <Bashing-om> givello: look'n
[00:02] <SchrodingersScat> mekhami: I asked one question to clarify, please !patience
[00:02] <givello> Bashing-om: Nvidia GTX770
[00:02] <mybox1776> lotus*  looking thanks
[00:02] <KomputerKid> Ham62?
[00:02] <KomputerKid> Where are you?
[00:02] <givello> Bashing-om: not sure I told you before but I'm on 14.04.1 btw
[00:03] <KomputerKid> ' Hello?
[00:03] <MathBlab> HOW DO YOU DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR PROBLEM.
[00:03] <lotuspsychje> MathBlab: lower caps plz
[00:03] <SchrodingersScat> mekhami: it's hardly semantics, as well, one is the terminal emulator that you could use to run probably any number of shells, while the other is the shell that you run.
[00:03] <KomputerKid> MathBlab is a bot
[00:03] <KomputerKid> I know the guy who programmed the bot...
[00:03] <STxAxTIC> I apologive for mathblab. Somoen triggered Eliza.....
[00:03] <mekhami> SchrodingersScat, i answered your question.
[00:03] <Ben64> STxAxTIC: don't bring bots in here at all
[00:03] <STxAxTIC> (and i apologize for my typos too)
[00:04] <mekhami> i want to change my default shell to zsh and it's not sticking.
[00:04] <k1l> KomputerKid: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. STxAxTIC
[00:04] <STxAxTIC> It was just a test, relax
[00:04] <Blizzy> so, what do I do?
[00:04] <lotuspsychje> !test | STxAxTIC
[00:04] <STxAxTIC> You guys are causing more of a distraction by scolding me than the original distraction caused.
[00:04] <KomputerKid> Well I use arch Linux so :P
[00:04] <KomputerKid> bye
[00:04] <Bashing-om> givello: shucks, GPT partitioning, No experience and I do not know how to manually boot the system from a GPT partition.
[00:05] <entreri> hey guys, how can I use Ubuntu on an Intel Atom Netbook with 4gb of RAM ?
[00:05] <entreri> Unity is impossible to use, it lags like hell
[00:05] <Blizzy> may I have help with my Ubuntu installation?
[00:06] <lotuspsychje> entreri: 4gig should be plenty, you sure your grafix card driver is loaded?
[00:06] <daftykins> !details | Blizzy
[00:06] <k1l> entreri: you can try the more lightweight desktop "Lubuntu" which uses lxde
[00:06] <somebody> entreri: You would probably want to get a different WM, like LXDE.
[00:06] <k1l> entreri: the problem is the very low cpu, not the amount of ram.
[00:07] <Blizzy> ok, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a VBox, however I keep getting this error. this is the error I keep getting when I try to install Ubuntu on VirtualBox. http://gyazo.com/659c5b82de6a51a50371a0418d6b89ff
[00:07] <givello> Bashing-om: so I'm SOL?
[00:07] <Blizzy> whoops, I pasted too much.
[00:07] <mybox1776> Lotus*  If its not there in fstab, can I just add it?
[00:07] <mybox1776> nothing is shown for Floppy
[00:08] <entreri> thanks guys, I tried different Ubuntu versions such as Lubuntu, but they were not as good out of the box as the real ubuntu with Unity...
[00:08] <somebody> entreri: Well, you have got to have a decent CPU unit on board to afford Unity.
[00:08] <lotuspsychje> entreri: wich ubuntu version are you trying?
[00:08] <mybox1776> http://pastebin.com/VZFxi0ay
[00:08] <Blizzy> so.
[00:09] <somebody> entreri: You might also want to try something different, maybe Cinnamon.
[00:09] <mekhami> subl /etc/passwd
[00:09] <ObrienDave> entreri, of XFCE
[00:09] <mekhami> yikes
[00:09] <ObrienDave> *or
[00:09] <entreri> lotuspsychje: I tried the 14 one
[00:09] <Blizzy> so, do I try a different version of Linux?
[00:10] <lotuspsychje> entreri: 14.04?
[00:10] <entreri> yes
[00:10] <Ben64> Blizzy: verify the md5sum of the iso
[00:10] <Blizzy> how do I do that, Ben64.
[00:10] <Blizzy> :L
[00:10] <Ben64> !md5sum | Blizzy
[00:10] <lotuspsychje> entreri: try what the guys suggested you and install lubuntu-desktop
[00:11] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | entreri
[00:11] <ObrienDave> entreri, or xubuntu-desktop
[00:11] <lotuspsychje> entreri: you can test it from your existing ubuntu
[00:11] <lotuspsychje> entreri: see if you get less lag
[00:12] <givello> Bashing-om: maybe I could try reinstalling grub? it seems like there might be an issue with it to me... maybe
[00:13] <Blizzy> what language is ubottu written in?
[00:13] <EriC^^> python i think
[00:13] <xTorettox> ok, so now I got this "error: Cannot find libjpeg. Make sure your CFLAGS and LDFLAGS environment variable are set properly."
[00:13] <bekks> Blizzy: Various languages.
[00:13] <Bashing-om> givello: Honestly, I do not know to this time if this is a graphics driver issue, or a grub issue. Try'n to think how to isolate - with the keyboard locking up lends crenence to a graphics driver (xorg.conf) problem.
[00:13] <Blizzy> thanks bekks and EriC^^.
[00:14] <ObrienDave> !ubottu | Blizzy
[00:14] <Blizzy> thanks ObrienDave.
[00:14] <ObrienDave> yw
[00:15] <xTorettox> Does anyone know how can I get through "error: Cannot find libjpeg. Make sure your CFLAGS and LDFLAGS environment variable are set properly."?
[00:16] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: givello Any knowledge IF we can purge Nvidia drivers and install nouveau in the CHroot environment ?
[00:17] <bekks> Bashing-om: Yes, we can.
[00:17] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: yes, i think so
[00:17] <givello> Btw Bashing-om we never tried launching x from the chroot in the end
[00:18] <Bashing-om> bekks: EriC^^ Thanks ! givello // I think ( so I think) we should give that ^^ a whirl.
[00:18] <givello> Bashing-om: sure, sounds good
[00:18] <elementofone> !ops
[00:18] <givello> Bashing-om: though in a sense, I hope it won't work cause I really need the propriary drivers to game
[00:19] <Bashing-om> givello: Not so easy of a thing to do, as X is running already from the liveUSB enviironment .. maybe we could export a display ?
[00:19] <xTorettox> ok, so now I got this "error: Cannot find libjpeg. Make sure your CFLAGS and LDFLAGS environment variable are set properly."
[00:19] <Bashing-om> givello: Look, IF and when we get this sucker booting , then when stable one could install proprietary drivers .
[00:20] <givello> Bashing-om: on arch I'd have done startx -- :1 which would have done the trick
[00:20] <givello> Bashing-om: yeah, I get you
[00:20] <bekks> xTorettox: sudo apt-get install libjpeg-dev
[00:21] <EriC^^> givello: Bashing-om what you guys up to?
[00:22] <Bashing-om> givello: What might be a test is to activate the full chroot, and export the display and test the environment ny starting gedit in the chroot environment,. See if the system screams and hollers.
[00:23] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Trying to boot 14.04, past grub all we get is a purple screnn, nada else , even in 'text' mode .
[00:23] <givello> Bashing-om: yea sounds good
[00:24] <Coburn> Hi guys, is there any way I can stop my Ubuntu server installation from blanking the screen? I'm not using Xorg, I'm using the framebuffer
[00:24] <givello> Bashing-om: could you past back the chroot script to me?
[00:24] <xTorettox> bekks: thank you very much, I'll give it a try
[00:24] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: givello did you try setting any vga settings for grub?
[00:24] <Coburn> The issue is, when the screen blanks, it will not turn back on
[00:24] <EriC^^> givello: did you mess with any .efi files?
[00:24] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ^^ I have been unable to isolate to Xserver or a grub issue.
[00:24] <Coburn> so basically I need to shutdown and start it back up
[00:24] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: seems like a grub issue, i think
[00:25] <givello> EriC^^: I think I haven't
[00:25] <glennop> upgrade to 14.10 but Xorg issues ... cannot start apps
[00:25] <EriC^^> givello: did it work before?
[00:25] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: MBR booting I could boot manually from grub, in GPT I do not have the knowledge, you ?
[00:25] <givello> EriC^^: it was a working installation before last monday
[00:26] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: we can try
[00:26] <EriC^^> i'm using gpt so it'd be somewhat similar i guess
[00:27] <EriC^^> givello: you upgraded to 14.10 and this happened?
[00:27] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: proplem being I do not know how to direct grub to look for the boot files in the .efi partition.
[00:28] <givello> EriC^^: nope. still on 14.04.1
[00:28] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: it should already have found them
[00:28] <givello> EriC^^: what happened is that it randomly stopped working. first I didn't have any graphical display, x failed to start and I was thrown into a terminal after some blinking
[00:29] <givello> EriC^^: I tried to diagnose the problem, but apparently messed it up
[00:29] <k1l> xTorettox: e19 lists the depencies on the left side on the site you got the packages from. so make sure you have them installed
[00:29] <givello> EriC^^: it seems that using startx was a bad idea on ubuntu
[00:29] <Ben64> givello: reinstall time
[00:29] <EriC^^> givello: did you run the find command from earlier?
[00:29] <givello> EriC^^: after a while I ended up not being able to boot into a liveusb
[00:30] <givello> EriC^^: and I finally realized that there was an issue with the DVI on my screen
[00:30] <givello> EriC^^: now I switched to VGA on the screen side, with a converter
[00:30] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: givello found this might be worth a look reading now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2188572
[00:30] <givello> EriC^^: and it works for a liveusb
[00:31] <givello> EriC^^: but no luck with getting the system to boot
[00:31] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: givello Look and reading too.
[00:32] <givello> EriC^^: Bashing-om I'm starting to wonder if I did it right with the editing of that line in the grub
[00:32] <givello> pressing ctrl+x prints an x
[00:32] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Trid that .. still with purple splash screen with both "nomodeset text " set.
[00:32] <givello> so I did the other thing and pressed F10
[00:32] <givello> what if it didn't take me changes into account
[00:33] <EriC^^> givello: which vga do you have?
[00:33] <givello> EriC^^: you mean the modeset?
[00:33] <EriC^^> nope like intel or nvidia etc.
[00:33] <givello> EriC^^: not sure I understand
[00:33] <givello> EriC^^: ohh
[00:33] <xTorettox> bekks: now ./configure brings up "error: pkg-config missing luajit >= 2.0.0", what to do now?
[00:33] <givello> EriC^^: GTX770
[00:34] <givello> EriC^^: nvidia
[00:34] <Bashing-om> givello: I prefer to make the changes in the grub command line and to do key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process, I do not trust what F10 'Might" be interpreted as.
[00:34] <givello> Bashing-om: so how do I do that? I press e then ctrl+c ?
[00:34] <xTorettox> bekks: already tried to install it, its a config problem I guess
[00:34] <givello> Bashing-om: I can try again if you want
[00:35] <bekks> xTorettox: sudo apt-get install libluajit-5.1-dev
[00:35] <stevecam> is 14.04 or 14.10 the official ubuntu release?
[00:35] <Coburn> both are
[00:35] <Coburn> 14.04 is LTS
[00:35] <bekks> xTorettox: Recipe: "missing dep mentioned" "try using apt-cache search missingdepmentioned" "install missingdepmentioned" :)
[00:35] <xTorettox> bekks: you answer, I paste
[00:36] <bekks> xTorettox: steep learning curve. ;)
[00:36] <stevecam> have there been many issues with 14.10 lately?
[00:37] <xTorettox> bekks: yep. trying to install from package is sth new, and I get really messed with versions
[00:38] <EriC^^> givello: try to reinstall the drivers or something as Bashing-om suggested
[00:38] <xTorettox> bekks: "error: pkg-config missing freetype2 >= 9.3.0" xD anyway let me try to get over this one by myself
[00:38] <Bashing-om> givello: 'e' for edit mode -> boot parameters screen, arrow down in this screen to the line similar " linux    /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=217ed9a7-e11a-4e32-8c05-992e8c8932b6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff " Arrow acroos to the terms "quiet splash" and replace them with the terms "nomodeset text" - without the quotes; key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[00:38] <EriC^^> the guy in the thread said after nomodeset worked he found out his drivers were missing
[00:38] <xTorettox> bekks: for each try for ./configure there's a new error message
[00:39] <bekks> xTorettox: Yeah, thats because of missing dependencies.
[00:39] <givello> Bashing-om: well, that doesn't work as ctrl+x ... prints an x on the line.
[00:39] <givello> Bashing-om: and pressing F10 has the aforementionned result
[00:40] <Bashing-om> givello: Sheessshh .. Never ever have I seen that happen in this instance before !
[00:40] <stevecam> how do i find out if support for my graphics card has been  dropped in the new release, im trying to install 14.10 on my laptop, after i boot into my installation i get an error message about low-graphics mode and wont let me use x at all, im using the Radeon HD 3200
[00:41] <Bashing-om> givello: An american ascii keyboard and keyboard layout ? .. EriC^^ At what point is X loaded in the boot process ?
[00:43] <EriC^^> i think lightdm starts it
[00:43] <givello> Bashing-om: a French azerty keyboard
[00:44] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: nevermind
[00:44] <givello> Bashing-om: but I'm fairly sure the layout during boot is just qwerty
[00:44] <givello> Bashing-om: as is it now
[00:44] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Then at this point we are still on the buos drivers.. givello are you pressing 'ctl' and 'x' both at the same time ? (key combo) .
[00:44] <givello> it
[00:45] <givello> Bashing-om: I am
[00:45] <noob_> noob
[00:45] <Bashing-om> buos/bios*
[00:47] <noob_> i trashed several large files totaling 2.5 GB from Ubuntu, emptied Trash, then when I logged back into Windows 7, the files are gone from their former folder, but no space has been recovered. Help.
[00:48] <noob_> forgot to mention, those files from the ntfs partition containing Windows
[00:49] <stevecam> noob_, ubuntu and windows use different trash folder locations, are you aware of this?
[00:50] <EriC^^> givello: try to boot with nosplash --verbose text instead of quiet splash $vthandoff
[00:50] <EriC^^> givello: are you using RAID?
[00:50] <noob_> ok, so what happened when I placed Windows files into Ubuntu Trash and emptied it?
[00:51] <bekks> Defined "placed" - copied or moved?
[00:51] <noob_> I imagine there is a placeholder file someplace
[00:52] <stevecam> they go in to ubuntu trash, generally here /home/username/.local/share/Trash
[00:52] <noob_> using GUI,  dragged those files into the Trash and emptied such
[00:52] <bekks> noob_: "dragging" across filesystems means "copying".
[00:52] <noob_> i wish I ran 'rm' but it has been a while
[00:52] <stevecam> bekks, no need for that
[00:52] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: givello http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997417&page=2 , solution is on page3
[00:53] <EriC^^> maybe it's the same
[00:53] <bekks> stevecam: there is no need to do so, but thats what happens when you drag across filesystems without pressing the shift key.
[00:53] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: look'n and reading !
[00:53] <noob_> but the files no longer exist in the Windows folder where they originally were, don't know where they ended up
[00:53] <stevecam> bekks, im talking about your behaviour
[00:53] <noob_> so, it was not a simple equivalent of 'cp'
[00:54] <bekks> stevecam: Whats wrong about telling what specific actions actually do?
[00:54] <bekks> stevecam: I wasnt offensive or such.
[00:54] <noob_> I'll remember the shift key next time,
[00:55] <noob_> i thought bekks was perfectly cordial, i know it's hard to get a point across sometimes
[00:55] <bekks> noob_: Most secure way in GUI is "cut" and "paste", to be sure that you actually will move a file.
[00:55] <EriC^^> noob_: when you emptied the trash, you deleted the files i guess, you can still probably recover them if you want
[00:55] <bekks> EriC^^: he deleted copies of the files he created.
[00:55] <givello> EriC^^: not using RAID no
[00:56] <bekks> noob_: May I PM you shortly?
[00:56] <stevecam> bekks, you were being trivial
[00:57] <givello> EriC^^: even though, do you think I could try to update initramfs from the chroot?
[00:57] <EriC^^> bekks: ah missed some of the msgs
[00:57] <kojak_> I have a bootable image of an Ubuntu box. How can I clone it into an empty hard disk, so that it boots and all afterwards?
[00:57] <Bashing-om> givello: EriC^^ Som no raid, and we are back to why grub does not see "ctl" .
[00:57] <noob_> i just want to reclaim the space. I copied the files from windows into the ubuntu partition that has more room,  then dragged these files from their original location into Trash.
[00:57] <noob_> please do
[00:58] <bekks> stevecam: I dont have to write a scientific essay essay about what happens when you drag files across filesystems. I dont get your point honestly, I dont get why you got mad at me.
[00:58] <stevecam> im not mad, noob_ did you try having a look at that folder i pointed you to?
[00:59] <HoloIRCUser> Kojak, the command you want is 'dd'
[00:59] <EriC^^> givello: anyways, try the --verbose text , it might shed some light
[01:00] <EriC^^> nosplash --verbose text
[01:01] <HoloIRCUser> Kojak, eg 'dd if=myimage.img of=/dev/sdb'
[01:01] <noob_> stevecam:  pardon, which folder is it?
[01:02] <stevecam> /home/username/.local/share/Trash
[01:02] <EriC^^> noob_: as bekks said if you dragged them from nautilus to the trash then nothing would have happened
[01:03] <EriC^^> noob_: they should still be where they were
[01:03] <jim1> hello
[01:04] <givello> EriC^^: ok. I'll be back in a few minutes since its the same box
[01:04] <EriC^^> givello: ok
[01:04] <Bashing-om> jim1: Hello, A support question ?
[01:05] <jim_> hello
[01:05] <jim_> test
[01:05] <jim1> hello
[01:07] <jim1> hrkki'
[01:07] <jim1> hhhh
[01:08] <brad__> you got it
[01:08] <stevecam> jim1, if you join a room with a random name it will create a new one that can be used for testing
[01:08] <givello> It didn't work
[01:09] <givello> so, as usual, ctrl+x prints x
[01:09] <givello> and doing the changes then pressing F10 gives the same result
[01:09] <EriC^^> does it mention another keyboard shortcut at the bottom?
[01:09] <stormzen> I think I fragged my USB with this command:  sudo dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/sdb1 when it was supposed to be sudo dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/sdb ... I don't need to recover anything, but now it won't create a partition.  .. how do I undo this?
[01:09] <givello> I wish I could be sure it worked though
[01:09] <givello> EriC^^: yes. F10
[01:09] <EriC^^> givello: it didn't show any text about booting?
[01:09] <givello> EriC^^: not even a blink before the purple screen
[01:10] <EriC^^> givello: ok, so you're in the liveusb now?
[01:10] <givello> Just a dissapearance of the text from grub.
[01:10] <givello> EriC^^: yep
[01:10] <EriC^^> cool
[01:10] <stevecam> stormzen, you could possibly blank it with zero's, there should be a /dev/zero that you can feed in to it
[01:10] <EriC^^> mount the ubuntu installation
[01:10] <givello> ok
[01:10] <givello> EriC^^: done
[01:10] <stormzen> stevecam, how is that done?
[01:11] <EriC^^> pastebin /var/log/syslog
[01:11] <EriC^^> in paste.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <givello> EriC^^: you mean /mnt
[01:11] <givello> /mnt/var/log/syslog
[01:11] <EriC^^> yeah, sorry
[01:11] <givello> let me check if there's anything about last bootbeforehand, tho
[01:11] <EriC^^> ok
[01:12] <givello> EriC^^: the state of syslog is the same as before
[01:12] <stevecam> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[01:12] <givello> EriC^^: no new output
[01:12] <stevecam> stormzen, that was for you
[01:12] <givello> EriC^^: since yesterday
[01:12] <EriC^^> oh
[01:12] <stevecam> stormzen, but that will blank your entire device, if that is what you want
[01:12] <kojak_> HoloIRCUser, thanks!
[01:13] <stevecam> stormzen, will be unformatted, will have nothing
[01:13] <EriC^^> givello: check the /mnt/etc/default/grub
[01:13] <HoloIRCUser> Kojak, you're very welcome
[01:13] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: givello " since yesterday " does not compute ! Something then is seriosly amiss .
[01:14]  * squinty was thinking the same
[01:14] <givello> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8726527/
[01:14] <stormzen> stevecam, yes, that's the idea, thanks.  So, if you don't specify anything beyond if, and of, then dd does the whole device.  I think I understand.  I just found shred, and I'm trying: shred -n1 /dev/sdb .  Should that do the same thing?
[01:14] <Tyrent> Has anyone here ever been on a cruise?
[01:15] <givello> Bashing-om: I say yesterday, but since an hour ago it's one more day ago
[01:15] <givello> Bashing-om: haha
[01:15] <somsip> !ot | Tyrent
[01:15] <givello> Bashing-om: two hours ago actually. I should go to bed soonish, I work at 9 tomorroz
[01:15] <givello> w
[01:16] <stevecam> stormzen, shred does a little bit more, i dont use shred, but from what i understand it makes it next to impossible to read old data by writing random data and then zero'ing it out
[01:16] <stormzen> as long as I'm here ( and waiting for my USB to finish shredding ), has anyone ever attempted to create a partitioned USB drive, first partition something like ultimate boot CD, second multisystem for booting multiple live CD distros?
[01:16] <stormzen> stevecam, Didn't think about it writing old data.  Yeah, that's a little overkill.
[01:17] <bekks> stormzen: I've successfully created a multiboot USB with about a dozen images.
[01:17] <EriC^^> givello: maybe try to add GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
[01:18] <stormzen> .. or has anyone installed Centos or RHEL 7 after installing Ubuntu 14 ( with or without rewriting the MBR? )  I did it without, and haven't been able to boot the new Centos system.  ( Can't figure out how to tell grub2 to boot it )
[01:18] <Bashing-om> givello: Understand about the z time for sleep. I see nothing in the grub file to alter booting, looks default. Back now again to why the 'ctl' key is not recognized to permit booting with the changed kerenl command line.
[01:18] <stormzen> bekks, Did you document what you did , or follow a document?
[01:19] <givello> EriC^^: the fact that my screen is 1680x1050 isn't relevant in that number I assume
[01:19] <bekks> stormzen: I just followed http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[01:19] <stevecam> stormzen, probably a little off-topic these questions, there is ##linux, if creating multiple partitions doesnt work you can also boot from disk images you have stored on the device, may be a little more practical doing it that way depending on your use
[01:19] <EriC^^> givello: i don't think so
[01:20] <EriC^^> givello: mount the efi partition
[01:20] <EriC^^> at /mnt/boot/efi
[01:21] <givello> EriC^^: oh ok
[01:21] <EriC^^> givello: then run for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[01:21] <EriC^^> givello: then chroot and update-grub
[01:22] <stormzen> stevecam, did you say that my questions were off topic?  ( Asking for clarification )
[01:22] <givello> EriC^^: you want me to change the resolution of grub too, right?
[01:22] <EriC^^> yes
[01:22] <stevecam> stormzen, yes, but just an educated guess, im not an op
[01:23] <EriC^^> ( do that before update-grub )
[01:23] <stormzen> ok.  I was going to ask if that included the one about update-grub not finding Centos7.
[01:26] <givello> EriC^^: ok, done
[01:26] <givello> EriC^^: let me try that and I'll be back
[01:27] <vinniec> scuse me for my bad english, i have a one simple question. In addition to chromium, what is the most recent webkit browser present in the repository?
[01:29] <smtb> anybody willing to help an ubuntu noob with an installation problem?
[01:29] <LinusTorvaldII> ok go aheaad
[01:29] <ObrienDave> not without knowing what the issue is ;P
[01:29] <givello> Didn't change anything
[01:30] <LinusTorvaldII> details smtb
[01:30] <d1zzYLuLz> i am trying to enter some rules into iptables..i enter the rule, do iptables -L and they are not in the list...any ideas why?
[01:30] <EriC^^> givello: ok, if you want you can try to press "e" and add vga=792
[01:30] <EriC^^> givello: i like that, it helped me with a vm issue once with grub
[01:30] <smtb> i upgraded to 14.10 but my unity does not work, i have tried everything in the forums, no luck
[01:30] <givello> I wish I had partitionned that correctly with a separate /home
[01:30] <EriC^^> actually not grub, the vm wouldn't change to higher resolutions, but i guess it's worth a shot
[01:30] <givello> Id have reinstalled it already
[01:30] <somsip> vinniec: Maybe only Chromium and Konqueror (maybe QtWeb & Midori too) in the repos? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers#WebKit-based
[01:30] <smtb> so i see desktop but no menu bar
[01:31] <stevecam> smtb, i had a similar issue, my solution was to just stop upgradingf and do fresh installs
[01:31] <LinusTorvaldII> exactly
[01:31] <givello> EriC^^: it's really a pain to reboot all the time, so I'll try it this time, but I don't promise I'll log back on
[01:31] <smtb> thanks, is there a way to do this from tty w/o losing any data?
[01:31] <vinniec> somsip: chromium is very large, konquerror is for kde, i search for qtweb, midori is updated to 2012
[01:32] <givello> EriC^^: will you be online tomorrow night?
[01:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[01:32] <givello> You or b.... forgot your name dude
[01:32] <EriC^^> Bashing-om:
[01:32] <givello> Bashing-om, yes haha
[01:32] <givello> wouldnt auto complete
[01:33] <smtb> thanks, is there a way to do a fresh install from tty w/o losing any data?
[01:33] <vinniec> qtweb is not in repository but there is qupzilla
[01:33] <vinniec> somsip: ^
[01:33] <Bashing-om> givello: I also expect to be present tomorrow afternoon .
[01:34] <Shunya> Hi,
[01:34] <somsip> vinniec: there you go then. You may have to do some searching to check them all
[01:35] <Shunya> how to install .bundlefile?   on google it's says sudo sh filename.bundle...
[01:35] <stevecam> smtb, yes, but it may be a little trivial
[01:35] <cognitiaclaeves> bekks ( I was stormzen ), I thought I recognized that URL.  That doesn't work for the Ultimate boot CD.  That's why I started trying to partition the USB.
[01:37] <OerHeks> Shunya, did you try that ?
[01:37] <LinusTorvaldII> smtb back up all data
[01:37] <vinniec> somsip: I have done some research but apart dwb (too complicated to use) I have not found much updated
[01:37] <Shunya> OerHeks, not yet...
[01:37] <Shunya> OerHeks, is it right
[01:37] <givello> Bashing-om, EriC^^ Ill try that tomorrow then
[01:37] <givello> see you then
[01:38] <givello> good night or afternoon or whatever time it is where you live
[01:38] <EriC^^> givello: thanks, you too
[01:38] <givello> and thanks for all the help
[01:38] <Shunya> OerHeks... I'll goint to try it
[01:38] <LucasTT> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/164631/computer-wont-restart-without-recovery-mode-and-mouse-is-flickering-after-i-add
[01:39] <OerHeks> Shunya,  you might need headers too > sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:39] <_go> hi, after upgrade to 14.10, cannot start apps.  can i reconfigure Xorg?
[01:39] <Shunya> ok OerHeks
[01:39] <Shunya> thanks
[01:39] <jcvfen> hi, how do make window menu always visible in panel, since the experimental tab in compiz manager is gone
[01:41] <Shunya> OerHeks whenever I run that command I get these errors
[01:41] <Shunya> (vmware-installer.py:18719): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
[01:41] <Shunya> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:41] <somebody> Okay, I tried to do a fresh install from another USB live stick, this time 14.04.01 created under pendrivelinux.com's installer under Windows. However, I am running into the same error message. You can see details reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1386956 Can anyone offer any pointers?
[01:43] <OerHeks> Shunya, yeah, old issue in 64 bit ubuntu > http://www.92wiki.com/en/blog/detail/how-to-fix-pk-gtk-module-and-canberra-gtk-module-error-messages-when-installing-vmware-workstartion-9
[01:45] <Shunya> OerHeks, I started installation... Is it necessary to fix that thing... before... or i can do it after
[01:46] <firebb> i want to auto start a command right after user's login, where should I add?
[01:46] <somebody> firebb: Go to the "Startup Applications".
[01:46] <bekks> !autostart
[01:46] <Avic> what light desktop environment should i install with freeNX ? i have trusty. thanks
[01:46] <justin_pizza> I have a xeon 1231 cpu, and I want to use kvm.  When I check 'KVM-Ok' INFO says my cpu does not support kvm extension.  This doesn't seem right.
[01:46] <bekks> Avic: xfce or lxde
[01:47] <Avic> they work with xreenx?
[01:47] <bekks> justin_pizza: Why not?
[01:47] <Avic> they work with freenx?
[01:47] <bekks> Avic: every DE "works" with NX, some more, some less.
[01:47] <justin_pizza> bekks: because its a newer cpu and looking at spec's it supports virtualization.
[01:48] <bekks> Avic: they all "work" - but the experience is what matters. Unity using NX is pretty - dont use it.
[01:48] <justin_pizza> bekks:  is there a reason why the xeon 1231 wouldn't support kvm extensions?
[01:48] <Avic> i have installed gnome, kubuntu and xfce. i cant see the desktop with none, i'm getting desperate really now.
[01:49] <bekks> justin_pizza: maybe they are disabled in the BIOS.
[01:49] <justin_pizza> bekks: I enabled it in bios
[01:50] <bekks> Avic: nxserver/nxclient or freenx?
[01:50] <Avic> freenx, i installed successfuly, but cant see desktop enviornment and don't know how to configure it
[01:51] <bekks> Geez.
[01:51] <ObrienDave> Avic, there is a dropdowm on the logon screen
[01:51] <bekks> Get rid of that crap and just use NoMachines nxclient/nxserver 4.0.x version
[01:51] <ObrienDave> *dropdown
[01:51] <firebb> bekks: :) I 'using lubuntu
[01:52] <Avic> in the nomachine client i only see virtual desktops,
[01:52] <bekks> Avic: Thats how freenx is intended to work.
[01:52] <bekks> Avic: Use NoMachines 4.0 version.
[01:52] <Avic> i even installed vnc4server, but gets a gray screen only
[01:52] <bekks> Avic: see above.
[01:53] <Avic> 4.0?
[01:53] <bekks> Yes.
[01:53] <bekks> Avic: https://www.nomachine.com/download
[01:54] <Ben64> or use something easy like vncserver
[01:54] <Avic> i installed the vnc server too, but only see gray screen
[01:54] <bekks> Avic: Either use VNC or NX.
[01:54] <Ben64> because nothing is running on that screen, run something and you will see it
[01:55] <Avic> only have 4.3 version here
[01:56] <bekks> Avic: https://www.nomachine.com/download/linux&id=1
[01:56] <Ben64> run the vncserver, connect to it, open a terminal on the server and run DISPLAY=:1 xterm
[01:56] <Ben64> or maybe a different DISPLAY number depending on what vncserver creates
[01:57] <Avic> i want the freenx in the server and the nomachine client in pc
[01:57] <Avic> with windows
[01:58] <Ben64> that is more difficult and less supported than using vnc
[01:58] <Avic> i was using debian with vnc, i changed to ubuntu trysty to install nx
[01:58] <spaztik> how do i find out what graphics driver version I'm using? i know it's i915, but latest version on intel's linux site is 1.06; dpkg says  2:2.99.910-0ubuntu1
[01:59] <spaztik> I've ran modinfo, etc... no versions are ever listed
[01:59] <Shunya> hello I installed vmware.bundle how can i uninstall it
[01:59] <Avic> i want to use freenx, its better than vnc, but its betting my nerves
[01:59] <Ben64> Avic: you've been at this for a day now, is it really better?
[02:00] <Avic> kubuntu is to havy, i like kde but...
[02:00] <Avic> i'm in this things for a week...
[02:00] <Avic> my vacations ...
[02:02] <Avic> in freenx is there a place to put startkde & ? like vnc?
[02:03] <Avic> first install desktop, then freenx
[02:03] <daftykins> Avic: i get the idea you're trying to use X on a VPS. why?
[02:04] <Guest56237> hey peoples, i could easily be in wrong place  here please advise - after a year of 100 linux distro crashes, i have arrived here, unbootable again, for you to help me save trusty, not murder linus torvalds, and move to redmond..
[02:04] <Avic> well i need some gui, not full desktop, but want to be the faster i can get.
[02:05] <daftykins> Guest56237: you can change OS if you like.
[02:05] <Guest56237> i have single 140.04 install in lvm, fsck crashes on boot, cannot get to grub, cannot start x from root#
[02:05] <Guest56237> cannot resize lvm from 14.04 live disk @ gparted..
[02:05] <Ben64> Avic: why do you need gui at all on a server? and why must it be freenx? you're making things so much more difficult than it needs to be
[02:05] <daftykins> Avic: GUIs don't belong on servers.
[02:06] <Guest56237> if you friggin said that to me i will kill linux torvalds right NOW OK !!!?
[02:06] <daftykins> Guest56237: you're not going to get any help here acting like that.
[02:08] <Avic> so you think that fluxbox is my better option?
[02:08] <Guest56237> the good news is that i am not really angry or a killer, totally kidding, since you are so smart .... well, whatever - windows people - HELL MAC people are more fun than this..
[02:08] <Avic> but its difficult toconfigure
[02:10] <Guest56237> just tell me if you said the gui bit because i am in the wrong chat room and dont patronize me, i am looking for desktop support IF ubuntu still supports the software that you do not "sell"
[02:10] <Avic> could vm be a solution daftykins?
[02:11] <daftykins> Guest56237: you're not making any sense. form a coherent well written sentence and maybe someone can help you
[02:11] <daftykins> Avic: what's the overall goal here... what do you want to use the VPS for?
[02:11] <ObrienDave> guest56237, redmond is obviously about your speed
[02:12] <Avic> mostely is cli, but some programs are used with gui, i like them more.
[02:13] <daftykins> Avic: i'm talking about the actual *tasks*
[02:13] <daftykins> mentioning the programs could be useful though
[02:13] <Avic> so it should be some gui, but little. i need a lighter gui
[02:14] <daftykins> yeah you're going about this completely wrong
[02:14] <Avic> procesing video, but not heavy
[02:14] <Shunya> linux got lot of libraries... to installl
[02:16] <Avic> well i cant look at the screen anymore, my head is exploding...
[02:16] <daftykins> Avic: video on a VPS? doesn't seem appropriate at all.
[02:17] <Avic> is justt taking parts of the videos and rearaging the final video
[02:18] <daftykins> yeah using a VPS for video editing, is really not a wise plan
[02:18] <Avic> i'm almost giving up
[02:21] <Avic> well basycally if i want to use ubuntu with freenx witch desktop should i choose?
[02:21] <|rt|> I've run into an issue with preseed and 12.04.5 images....hash sum mismatches on the repos...is this a regresion from 12.04.4, which works fine?
[02:21] <Avic> the easy to work with freenx?
[02:21] <xieyi> Has anyone tried netbeans ide under ubuntu 14.10? Mine cant be launched correctly. Is it a common problem of the new version?
[02:22] <somsip> xieyi: what does not launching correctly look like?
[02:23]  * rootpt is away: busy
[02:23] <somsip> !away > rootpt
[02:23] <Tyrent> Has anyone here ever been on a cruise?
[02:23] <jpizza> how can I figure out why kvm extentions is not support on my cpu?
[02:23] <jpizza> I have a xeon 1231
[02:23] <Avic> kubuntu is so big... kde in debian is smaller
[02:23] <somsip> !ot | Tyrent (still ot as you were told before)
[02:25] <Avic> on a cruise...lol well good night everyone
[02:25] <Avic> thanks for the help
[02:27] <mynameisdeleted> so.. isit just me or does a lot of stuff in the new osx yosemite remind me of clearlooks themes for kde/gnome/untiy
[02:27] <mynameisdeleted> and does their file search look like unity file-search?
[02:27] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | mynameisdeleted
[02:28] <mynameisdeleted> I think ubuntu/linux/gnu is being copied outside our open source comunity
[02:29] <SchrodingersScat> !offtopic | mynameisdeleted meant this one,
[02:29] <PitchF> damn pirates
[02:30] <PitchF> is it true Mark as root on my ubutu?
[02:30] <Etherea> hello
[02:31] <NoobianPrince> Used Nautilus to move several NTFS folder into Ubuntu Trash,  the folders are gone from the parent folder, do not appear to be in Trash, but the space they occupied has not been reclaimed. Please help.
[02:33] <PitchF> is it true Mark has root on my ubuntu?
[02:33] <PitchF> i need to change my name to mark cause marks rule open source
[02:34] <SchrodingersScat> PitchF: do you install packages from the ubuntu repos? then you have to trust them anyway.
[02:34] <PitchF> mark shutlesomething mark zukersomething
[02:34] <SchrodingersScat> also, !offtopic
[02:34] <sacarlson> PitchF: only if mark is in the sudo group could he be considered root
[02:34] <alert> test message
[02:35] <xieyi> somsip: my netbeans cant be launched
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> alert: received
[02:35] <xieyi> Being launched from console, it complains that "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java/nio/file/InvalidPathException"
[02:36] <PitchF> what if mark username is root?
[02:36] <OerHeks> !find mark
[02:46] <skeever> Just testing. Pls disregard.
[02:49] <jdmcancer> How do I check ubuntu for broken or missing packages?
[02:49] <Tabmow> My volume keeps on being adjusted down automatically, anyone seen this before? Upon googling some people think it is skype, which I have but I have disabled that feature and it occurs when skype is not open also. Anyone have any ideas?
[02:51] <toshiba_> hello im new here and would like to say hi
[02:52] <ObrienDave> hi
[02:52] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: Terminal commands -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg -C .
[02:52] <jdmcancer> I suspect this because I'm having two issues, one my system won't play cd's, and secondly when I run software updater it says it failed to download repository
[02:52] <toshiba_> im also new tyolinux (zorin Os)
[02:53] <toshiba_> to sorry
[02:55] <toshiba_> has anyone run zorin os linux before i could use some pointers
[02:55] <toshiba_> its version 9
[02:55] <ObrienDave> this channel is NOT ZorinOS support
[02:56] <toshiba_> no but it is abhout linux
[02:56] <toshiba_> about
[02:59] <toshiba_> nevermind will go to excellewnt treatment chat service where everyone doesan't think thier but crack never stinks...by the way everyone but crack strinks when they are old farts like you
[03:00] <ObrienDave> ?
[03:02] <daftykins> ObrienDave: my my. that was an odd one!
[03:02] <ObrienDave> amongst several LOL
[03:06] <jdmcancer> OK I tried those commands and this is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/8727430/
[03:06] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: look'n .
[03:08] <xieyi> does anyone meet the problem that the netbeans cant be launched in 14.10?
[03:09] <xieyi> how do deal with it
[03:09] <xieyi> thx
[03:09] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: "yannubuntu/boot-repair" is not suppotred in 14.04, ppa-purge .
[03:09] <Bashing-om> ! ppa-purge | jdmcancer
[03:11] <jdmcancer> So enter ppa-purgeyannubuntu/boot-repair?
[03:11] <_apps_gone> hi, installed 14.10, but the icons are not displayed.
[03:11] <jdmcancer> Also I'm in ubuntu 14.10
[03:13] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: Maybe as in -> sudo ppa-purge ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair <- and no support in 14.10 either.
[03:15] <jdmcancer> OK here's my results http://paste.ubuntu.com/8727514/
[03:19] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: Sorta makes sense as "utopic" is the source, and the ap is not supported . Less others can advise better, just disable the source in "software Center" and wait for yannbuntu to update the repo.
[03:23] <gnustome> Borrowing my friends laptop with Ubuntu and I need to get leiningen installed to do some schoolwork.
[03:23] <jdmcancer> When I entered that in the software center the only result I got was for some boot loaders but it's not checked so I don't have that installed to remove
[03:24] <daftykins> gnustome: phone your friend for permission
[03:24] <gnustome> He's running 14.10, and from your online package search tool it seems you only have it for 14.04.
[03:25] <gnustome> daftykins: Already got clearance/ have my own account with sudo.
[03:25] <daftykins> ok
[03:25] <daftykins> !info leiningen
[03:25] <daftykins> !info leiningen trusty
[03:26] <gnustome> So is it smarter to install a leiningen deb from a mirror here http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/leiningen/download
[03:26] <dawson> how do i get a java runtime?
[03:26] <gnustome> or to add the line on that same page for the sources.list repo?
[03:27] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: check: cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit , tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit .
[03:29] <dawson> hey i need some help on fixing a dialogue box saying i need java runtime while using wine
[03:31] <Shunya> Hello,
[03:31] <Krayg> Greetings
[03:31] <Shunya> Thanks
[03:32] <Shunya> Is there other good browser i can use except firefox and chrome in my ubuntu
[03:32] <daftykins> not really, no
[03:32] <Shunya> :(
[03:32] <daftykins> why would you need another one?
[03:32] <jdmcancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8727659/
[03:33] <Shunya> daftykins, from 5 days... my chrome... is giving me some kind of error.. but now its fixed
[03:33] <Shunya> I just need in case of this thing happen again
[03:33] <daftykins> so that's firefox then?
[03:33] <daftykins> and bear in mind you can always try clean profiles in browsers when problems arise
[03:34] <Shunya> yup firefox is there... but still want ...
[03:34] <Shunya> clean profiles?
[03:34] <jdmcancer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8727683/
[03:34] <Shunya> jdmcancer is this thing for me?
[03:34] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: Good, look'n at next .
[03:35] <jdmcancer> For anyone who understands this and can help, thanks
[03:36] <Shunya> Ok, for me its difficult :) may be someone else
[03:36] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: The source still exists " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu utopic main " either disable it in "software sources" OR fire up a text editor and 'comment out' that source .
[03:37] <daftykins> Shunya: yeah, profile management. you can look up how to reset profiles for firefox and chrome.
[03:39] <Surendil>  /msg Anuska still pissed?
[03:40] <Surendil> bleh, sorry
[03:40] <jdmcancer> I don't know how to do that, can I remove it with a command in the terminal?
[03:41] <Surendil> jdmcancer: edit sources.list
[03:41] <after_r> Hello... so I was wondering if there is a way to replace the shadow in the Radience theme with a simple border?
[03:42] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: The easier thing to do is look in "software Sources" tab -> other software, and uncheck that box . Else next is with a text editor, and yes, if one is real crafty, c terminal command can be nade up to 'comment out" that entry ( but it ain't me ) .
[03:43] <Bashing-om> nade/made*
[03:46] <jdmcancer> So there are three tings checked in there including  the one you were talking about, uncheck all three?
[03:47] <Bashing-om> jdmcancer: No, just the entry for /yannubuntu/boot-repair .
[03:48] <Surendil> jdmcancer: uncheck all, disable all repos
[03:48] <jdmcancer> OK done. So How do i know if that fixed it or if more needs to be done?
[03:48] <Surendil> jdmcancer: apt-get update
[03:49] <after_r> is there a progr
[03:50] <Surendil> after_r: ???
[03:50] <after_r> nm
[03:51] <jdmcancer> Hopefully this finally fixed it http://paste.ubuntu.com/8727802/
[03:51] <jdmcancer> What do you think?
[03:52] <Surendil> jdmcancer: if repos added are not there or "Ign", workded
[03:53] <daftykins> jdmcancer: good on you, it only took all day! :)
[03:53] <daftykins> jdmcancer: for what it's worth, i told you to do exactly the above earlier today, but you ignored it :)
[03:54] <Surendil> jdmcancer: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y
[03:54] <Surendil> update system
[03:54] <Surendil> daftykins: hahaha
[03:54] <jdmcancer> Yeah well thanks for the help and I hope I wasn't too bad a headache but I don't know all this stuff yet
[03:58] <jdmcancer> it still won't play my cd's and it would before I went from 14.04 to14.10
[03:59] <Surendil> jdmcancer: cd's?
[03:59] <Surendil> jdmcancer: might need to mount the drive first
[04:00] <jdmcancer> Yeah I'm still old school on that. I get sound on everything else but only some weird noise when I insert and try to play a cd
[04:01] <Surendil> jdmcancer: vlc?
[04:01] <jdmcancer> Yes
[04:01] <iMadper> Hey, I'm using microsoft ergo 4000 keyboard. There is a roller on the kb. `showkey --keycode` can grab the keycode and it's 418/419. However other program can't grab the key pressing, E.g, xev, emacs, xmodmap can't realize the key pressing. Do you guys think it's my window manager blocked it?
[04:02] <iMadper> I want to use the roller as "pgup" and "pgdown"
[04:04] <after_r> I basically have the same question as here http://askubuntu.com/questions/135135/alternative-to-little-snitch-app-firewall  Can someone give me a good Ubuntu-integrated solution if one exists?
[04:04] <spaztik> Anyone had problems with Steam games not rendering correctly? It worked on 14.04 but not 14.10
[04:05] <Surendil>  after_r: iftop (terminal) - firewalld (gui)
[04:06] <Surendil> after_r: but iptable -L
[04:07] <Surendil> should show firewall rules
[04:07] <Surendil> after_r: also, man netstat
[04:09] <sacarlson> spaztik: did you try boot the last kernel?  I assume they don't delete it
[04:09] <after_r> im not looking for just a firewall
[04:09] <after_r> I want to be notified when an app tries to make a connection
[04:09] <after_r> and I want to allows it in a nice gui
[04:09] <after_r> but ok
[04:10] <sacarlson> after_r: cool let's write one
[04:10] <spaztik> sacarlson: i just wiped a fresh ubuntu and installed latest
[04:10] <Surendil> after_r: firewalld might do the trick
[04:11] <sacarlson> spaztik: oh then you will have to reload install the old one again.  have to research what was running when it worked
[04:11] <spaztik> lame
[04:11] <after_r> mkay
[04:12] <sacarlson> spaztik: i meant reinstall the last kernel
[04:12] <sacarlson> spaztik: they are only about 14megs should take long to download and install with apt-get
[04:13] <spaztik> sacarlson: found it http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/2/666826703693809496/
[04:13] <spaztik> for some reason that worked out of the box on 14.04
[04:14] <spaztik> wonder why it worked out of the box, even though I used the same deb pkg from Steam to install
[04:14] <daftykins> spaztik: but that's Mint
[04:15] <spaztik> same issue
[04:15] <daftykins> yeah, just checking you're not running it
[04:15] <sacarlson> spaztik: oh so "force_s3tc_enable=true" fixed it?
[04:15] <spaztik> yeah
[04:16] <rieit> HI
[04:20] <after_r> Surendil: I'm looking at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/firewalld.1.html and I don't see anything about per-app rules
[04:21] <pce> hi, i can't update, no space, i get the messange: The upgrade needs a total of 93.3 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 6,178 k of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[04:21] <sacarlson> after_r: maybe have to integrate apparmor
[04:21] <pce> how can i delete the old kernel or somehting?
[04:22] <daftykins> pce: can you share the output of "df -h" in paste.ubuntu.com ?
[04:22] <sacarlson> pce: just keep the old kernel it's not that big
[04:22] <Bashing-om> pce: 14.04 ? terminal command -> sudo apt-get autoremove <- . else 12.04 will have to get fancy with dpkg command.\
[04:24] <pce> thanks guys, looks like Bashing-om idea is helping
[04:25] <sacarlson> after_r: seems there is a new way to restrict apps from net access now http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68956/block-network-access-of-a-process
[04:27] <after_r> im reating about apparmour
[04:27] <after_r> apparmour
[04:27] <Surendil> after_r: apt-cache search firewall will also find any soft related with firewall rules and what you want
[04:28] <Surendil> after_r: apt-cache show pack - brief desc
[04:29] <after_r> mkay
[04:29] <Guest20073> Can anyone help me get my Turtle Beach Ear Force PX3 headset to work with Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS?
[04:32] <sacarlson> after_r: you can also monitor what app is using and how much bandwidth with nethogs app
[04:34] <after_r> thats cool
[04:38] <sacarlson> after_r: I still think you could write an app that first monitors and records each app that it detects as touching the network.  then activate alarm to play a sound when a new app is detected that is not on the your know app list
[04:40] <sacarlson> after_r: you can later also look at the log to see any new aditions and determine if they should be added to the ok no sound needed list or look to analize why they touch the net
[04:40] <sacarlson> after_r: I you want I can help you write it, if you don't find any apps that already do that
[04:40] <after_r> im not going to do that
[04:41] <after_r> because i need a way to temporary block access until i say its ok
[04:41] <after_r> and i think something like that exists already
[04:42] <iIlL10Oo> hi, how to resize /dev ?
[04:42] <sacarlson> after_r: well you could add if it's first detected it is killed and rerun with the method above that restricts apps access to the network.  good idea
[04:43] <sacarlson> after_r: it's your dream so keep looking
[04:43] <after_r> haha mkay
[04:48] <sacarlson> illL100o  please change your name I can't auto tab it and can't find the symbols on my keyboard.   as for resize /dev  I thought those were devices not files
[04:49] <AmnesiaHaze> any chance anyone in here has some knowledge with setting up port knockin for ssh on ubuntu
[04:49] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: I'll have to look that up what is knockin
[04:50] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: maybe you want to change listen port for ssh?
[04:50] <ObrienDave> port knockin?????
[04:50] <sacarlson> wiiw: thanks
[04:51] <layziebones> does anybody here use codeblocks?
[04:51] <AmnesiaHaze> port knocking sorry
[04:51] <ObrienDave> AmnesiaHaze, what is "port knocking"???
[04:51] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: I'm still running a blank here what's that knocking?
[04:52] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: port scanning maybe?
[04:52] <ObrienDave> port forwarding???
[04:53] <sacarlson> ObrienDave: they get tougher ever day ahh
[04:53] <wiiw>  udev            2.0G  8.0K  2.0G    1% /dev
[04:53] <AmnesiaHaze> A concept known as port knocking is a way of shielding processes that fit into the latter description. Port knocking works by covering the ports associated with a process behind a firewall until a specific, predetermined sequence of network activity occurs. At this point, the port knocking service reconfigures the firewall to allow access to the protected application.
[04:53] <wiiw> I want to change the max size of /dev
[04:53] <AmnesiaHaze> port knocking ssh deamon until it gets attempts on say 2222 3333 4444 then it opens 22
[04:54] <AmnesiaHaze> for authentation process
[04:54] <AmnesiaHaze> an extra layer of protection for ssh i guess
[04:54] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: cool never heard of it
[04:54]  * ObrienDave SMH and strolls on down the road. glad i'm an old fart ;P
[04:55] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: I just change the listen port to like 2222 instead of 22
[04:55] <AmnesiaHaze> im using keys and 22
[04:55] <AmnesiaHaze> im just curious kinda   and was setting it up  and i have it all correct apparently by this guide  i get no errors   but its not opening the port on my sequence
[04:56] <AmnesiaHaze> and when i cant figure somthing out it bugs me
[04:56] <AmnesiaHaze> thought id ask before i hunt
[04:56] <ObrienDave> way beyond my knowledge :)
[04:57] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: seems to be a knockd package to do just that https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-port-knocking-to-hide-your-ssh-daemon-from-attackers-on-ubuntu
[04:57] <Surendil> AmnesiaHaze: use nmap to check if port 22 is being used other app or see firewall rules, if it's blocking port 22
[04:57] <AmnesiaHaze> sacarlson,   im using knockd
[04:57] <daftykins> nmap is not used to find out what is using a port, heh
[04:58] <Surendil> i know, but it's easier to use
[04:58] <AmnesiaHaze> Surendil,    iptables has 22 locked until knockd monitors the network traffic and sees the sequence then its supposed to open ssh port 22
[04:58] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: I see the knockd package in synaptic on ubuntu 14.04
[04:58] <after_r> http://www.douaneapp.com/ <-- maybe thats what I need
[04:59] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: I understand knockd now but what do you use on the other side to send the knocks?
[05:00] <AmnesiaHaze> JuiceSSH plugin from my android
[05:00] <AmnesiaHaze> for port knocking
[05:00] <wiiw> http://askubuntu.com/questions/353906/reducing-the-size-of-udev-filesystem
[05:00] <after_r> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135135/alternative-to-little-snitch-app-firewall talks about it
[05:00] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: cool but what about another ubuntu box what is there knocking app?
[05:01] <AmnesiaHaze> the guide i followed suggests # nmap -p 5040 SERVER-IP# nmap -p 6010 SERVER-IP# nmap –p 6500 SERVER-IP
[05:01] <AmnesiaHaze> if those were your ports
[05:01] <AmnesiaHaze> am i allowed to post links here?
[05:02] <cfhowlett> !paste | AmnesiaHaze,
[05:02] <AmnesiaHaze> jsut urls
[05:02] <AmnesiaHaze> http://tecadmin.net/secure-ssh-connections-with-port-knocking-linux/
[05:02] <AmnesiaHaze> guide i followed
[05:02] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: ok Ic so a small script you can run before ssh.  cool, when I go to work for a bank I'll be sure to use it ha ha.  I'm just not worth hacking
[05:06] <PitchF> chu are you here?
[05:07] <ObrienDave> you got kicked from #OT and can't figure out why????
[05:07] <sacarlson> AmnesiaHaze: if your into security you might look at docker that acts much like a virtualbox around apps that might touch the network that are in like sandboxs with limited resources
[05:08] <PitchF> i can figure out
[05:08] <PitchF> because im inconvinet
[05:08] <PitchF> inconvenient
[05:08] <ObrienDave> because you don't heed the "family friendly" policy
[05:09] <PitchF> i come online to escape famalie
[05:09] <cfhowlett> PitchF, follow the rules.  it's easy.  or get kicked for violating.  also easy.
[05:09] <ObrienDave> what EVER
[05:09] <PitchF> i didnt do anything
[05:10] <cfhowlett> PitchF, ask your ubuntu support questions
[05:10] <PitchF> but im usi9ng windows
[05:10] <cfhowlett> PitchF, then go to ##windows
[05:11] <PitchF> but i have no quaestions about windows
[05:11] <PitchF> it just works
[05:11] <ObrienDave> PitchF, you cursed after being REPEATEDLY reminded of the 'family friendly' rules. your own fault
[05:11] <Flannel> PitchF: Please help keep this channel on-topic (that's Ubuntu-related technical support), chit-chat and other commentary is offtopic here.  Thanks.
[05:11] <PitchF> if you install classic shell i mean
[05:11] <Flannel> ObrienDave: You too, thanks.
[05:11] <PitchF> i didnt cursed i swaer
[05:12] <PitchF> i was talking about spyware
[05:12] <Flannel> PitchF: again, discussing other channels isn't on-topic for here, if you need to deal with operator-related issues, that's #ubuntu-ops
[05:12] <PitchF> and systemd is just that
[05:12] <cfhowlett> PitchF, this ^^^^
[05:15] <PitchF> ^º^
[05:15] <PitchF> i need batman
[05:15] <narbeh> How can I force an HTML file or the Lighttpd server, not to cache a page in users browsers?
[05:15] <Flannel> PitchF: Please take it elsewhere, thanks.
[05:19] <sacarlson> after_r: looks more like Leopard Flower was what you wanted.  when an app tries to connect a pop up comes on if not already set to access
[05:20] <sacarlson> after_r: almost exactly like I remember zone alarm did
[05:21] <sacarlson> narbeh: you will want to change the meta to expire sooner or in the past
[05:22] <sacarlson> after_r: oh ya your app http://www.douaneapp.com/ also did the same thing didn't see it
[05:22] <narbeh> sacarlson: how can I do that ?
[05:22] <narbeh> sacarlson: can you help please?
[05:22] <sacarlson> narbeh: I can try
[05:23] <sacarlson> narbeh: http://www.metatags.info/meta_name_expires
[05:24] <sacarlson> narbeh: I'm not sure about all browsers,  maybe some ignore meta expire?  and seems if the site becomes unreadable it will still use the last data it has in cache
[05:25] <narbeh> sacarlson: thank you so much, i'll check it
[05:27] <omkar_> how to install opensans font in ubuntu
[05:27] <blocky> google-chrome is crashing when i have a lot of tabs open with PDFs saying too many file descriptors, is there a way to increase the limit?
[05:27] <omkar_> i googled abt the solution and installed opensans font under /usr/share/truetype/OpenSans but dind't h elp
[05:27] <cfhowlett> !fonts | omkar_
[05:29] <mefisto_> after upgrade to 14.10 I have dependency problems. Can anyone suggest what I should do? http://paste.kde.org/pnyeh2cl3
[05:29] <dcmwai> Hello all
[05:30] <dcmwai> would like to check... How can I recovery and wubi installation boot?
[05:30] <dcmwai> I meant can I change the windows bcdedit to make it boot again... After I reinstall windows?
[05:31] <kriskropd> can i unmount a directory and remount it with a new disk device while lsof indicated processes are using the old mountpoint? sudo umount suggests I cannot but i cant afford to easily close all my shells that had working directories set to the mount point. something happened to unmount my disk at /dev/sdd1 and send it to /dev/sde1 instead ._.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> dcmwai, wubi is abandonware, not supported, not recommended and incompatible with 14.04 +
[05:31] <dcmwai> cfhowlett, oop that bad..
[05:31] <cfhowlett> !wubi
[05:33] <sacarlson> kriskropd: yes you can force umount to knock off all that are using it at the time and the remount another,  but it seems you proved that to yourself
[05:34] <kriskropd> sacarlson: wait what? no i can't figure out how to "knock off" all the processes using it - i didnt manually unmount the disk - some error occured
[05:34] <kriskropd> sacarlson: when I try to 'sudo umount /mnt/mountpoint' it says I need to close processes using the mountpoint first
[05:35] <kriskropd> lsof implies I have at least a dozen shell processes that was using the mount point - and i have those scattered throughout a big ol tmux session
[05:36] <kriskropd> im trying to unmount the mountpoint with this disk that got pushed to a different device so i can update the mountpoint to the correct device
[05:36]  * kriskropd feels he needs to draw pictures x.x
[05:37] <kriskropd> "umount: /mnt/mountpoint: device is busy."
[05:37] <sacarlson> kriskropd: fuser -km /mnt  might be what would work
[05:38] <sacarlson> kriskropd: also umount -l /mnt
[05:39] <sacarlson> kriskropd: if you need cleaner methods you might find them also http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-forcefully-unmount-a-disk-partition.html
[05:39] <kriskropd> :o lazy umounting - that was hiding at the bottom of the man page, thanks - ill try the fuser suggestion if lazy unmount fails - id rather not kill these shells if possible :s
[05:40] <kriskropd> yeah, umount -l is what i needed, thanks sacarlson
[05:40] <sacarlson> np
[05:41] <kriskropd> !cookie > sacarlson
[05:44] <omkar_> hello guys
[05:44] <omkar_> in kde my kde konsole is getting crashed everytime i launch it
[05:44] <after_r> does Ubuntu come with DKMS installed?
[05:44] <sacarlson> kriskropd: I'm also open for donations ha ha , my bitcoin address 1KHQo9Lpk4TftbfgpHBcRqCiLVshRyEWFC
[05:44] <after_r> im trying to build this: https://github.com/Douane/Douane/wiki/Dependencies
[05:45]  * kriskropd needs to get a bitcoin wallet to make bitcoin donations
[05:45] <sacarlson> after_r: oh wow you have to build it.  you sure it's not in ppa?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> after_r, no but it is in the ubuntu ISO
[05:45] <omkar_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8728752/
[05:45] <after_r> it doesnt show up in apt-get search
[05:45] <omkar_> i have posted the error message
[05:46] <after_r> but id want to build it
[05:46] <cfhowlett> after_r, are you booted from the cd/usb?
[05:46] <after_r> in the ubuntu iso?
[05:46] <after_r> the boot live system uses it?
[05:46] <after_r> I'm on a installed system
[05:46] <omkar_> please help me
[05:47] <cfhowlett> after_r, it's on the .iso; /pool/main/d/dkms
[05:48] <after_r> well yeah
[05:48] <after_r> its also int apt-get
[05:48] <after_r> i'll just install it
[05:51] <sacarlson> after_r: it's used in all kernal installs so must already be there
[05:52] <sacarlson> after_r: I see it used in virtualbox that has custom driver modules that link to kernel
[05:52] <after_r> well i installed it
[05:52] <after_r> and it didnt say it was there before
[05:53] <nusr> can i ask librebase questions becos ubuntu is my favourite go to help channel
[05:53] <PitchF> i need to slic my vbox how do i do that?
[05:53] <sacarlson> after_r: ok it must have been a depency of virtualbox then
[05:53] <cfhowlett> nusr, #libreoffice
[05:54] <nusr> cfhowlett: yeah but only ubuntu and 7-11 stay open 24/7
[05:54] <PitchF> i have a old xp vhd that needs some slic magic to work
[05:54] <Valduare> some issue with loopback or something,
[05:54] <taken2> Hello, I just got an Asus Chromebox and popped Ubuntu 14.10 on it (via chrubuntu)
[05:54] <cfhowlett> nusr, it's the internet.  everything is 24 x 7
[05:55] <taken2> I noticed h264 playback was not in Firefox. I thought it may be an issue with 14.10, so I got 14.04
[05:55] <PitchF> yes cant you just axe chromeos and just run linux?
[05:55] <Valduare> If I am on my main router I cant access servers that are under the same router…. but if I loginto wifi on a router thats plugged into the main router then I can access things fine… what would cause that   other non-linux computers can access servers just fine when on main router...
[05:55] <nusr> cfhowlett: but ubuntu seems to be populated with people who know how to do stuff
[05:55] <PitchF> nusr: negative
[05:55] <taken2> PitchF, yes, you can modify seabios and erase Chrome OS, but there is not need for me
[05:56] <PitchF> if you looking for people that know stuff go to gentoo
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | PitchF
[05:56] <nusr> PitchF: lol
[05:56] <taken2> Anyway, my question is just about h264 in Firefox
[05:56] <sacarlson> Valduare: can't access like can't ping there address?
[05:56] <taken2> I don't know anything about linux, but I read a post about h264 not being part of Ubuntu
[05:56] <cfhowlett> taken2, might want to ask #mozilla about that specific type of question
[05:57] <Valduare> can ping
[05:57] <Valduare> just cant access
[05:57] <cfhowlett> taken2, by default, it is not - yet.
[05:57] <taken2> then I read a post about how to add h264 as a hack for Firefox, but that it required 14.04
[05:57] <cfhowlett> taken2, did you install restricted extras?
[05:57] <taken2> So, I installed 14.04, but it didn't work
[05:57] <crocket> How do I check if ufw is disabled?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> crocket, terminal: ufw -status
[05:58] <taken2> The other issue is with Chrome and Netflix
[05:58] <crocket> cfhowlett, Is there a way to do it programmatically?
[05:58] <taken2> it only streams in SD
[05:58] <cfhowlett> crocket, yest, but I don't know how.  sorry.
[05:58] <taken2> That's related to the user agent string, apparently, and I tried changing the user agent and such, but with little success
[05:58] <sacarlson> crocket: ufw -satus yes
[05:58] <PitchF> whats programatically supposed to mean?
[05:59] <sacarlson> status
[05:59] <cfhowlett> taken2, did - you - install - restricted - extras?
[05:59] <taken2> I just wanted a quite little box to watch youtube, netlfix, and browse the web
[05:59] <taken2> I guess Ubuntu is still not capable of basic use yet :9
[05:59] <taken2> :(
[05:59] <PitchF> why?
[06:00] <taken2> I check in on Linux every 5 years to see if it can be used for basic web browsing
[06:00] <PitchF> try steamos
[06:00] <celroc> What do you need it to do, taken2?
[06:00] <taken2> maybe in 2020 I'll try again
[06:00] <nusr> what are you talking about..i have h264 for screen recordings
[06:00] <PitchF> they say you can wach netflix on ubuntu now
[06:00] <taken2> What do I need it to do? Watch a video in youtube and watch netflix
[06:01] <celroc> taken2: I don't know about Netflix, but YouTube should be working fine
[06:01] <PitchF> i cant watch netflix cause im unamerican
[06:01] <taken2> Right now, Netflix (via Chrome) is limited to SD, and H264 is not available
[06:01] <taken2> so, the two main things I wanted (outside of word processing) don't work properly
[06:01] <PitchF> you need to upgrade firefox
[06:01] <sacarlson> taken2: out of the box ubuntu doesn't have the codec installed for some things on your list.  you can install the extras needed on ubuntu or install Linux Mint that has the integrated already
[06:01] <nusr> taken2: how about mozilla
[06:02] <PitchF> the new one has h264 support
[06:02] <PitchF> cisco pluggin
[06:02] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, corect.  restricted extras add those codecs to ubuntu but ... he won't answer the questin
[06:02] <taken2> Do you have the latest version for Firefox?
[06:03] <taken2> http://www.youtube.com/html5
[06:03] <sacarlson> taken2: yes I can play all that stuf and youtube
[06:03] <celroc> taken2: Looks like it's Firefox 33 or there about
[06:03] <taken2> click that link, and tell me if "h264" has a blue checkmark (works) or a red box (does not work)
[06:03] <PitchF> 33 is the latest stable
[06:04] <celroc> taken2: It's blue for me
[06:04] <nusr> cfhowlett: btw (unrelated to ubuntu but from a previous convo) arch terminal is still unusable. tried to ssh into it, but still can't get it to work..arch is beyond me atm
[06:04] <cfhowlett> nusr, grr.  sorry to hear.  usually there is some simple (but needlessly obscure) fix.
[06:04] <PitchF> who uses arch anyway
[06:04] <PitchF> arch is a joke
[06:05] <PitchF> on you
[06:05] <nusr> PitchF: i wanted to have a look at BlackArch
[06:05] <sacarlson> taken2: on my firefox I have all green on the top of that link
[06:05] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | PitchF
[06:05] <PitchF> if you want something like arch install gentoo
[06:06] <taken2> I am using the latest version of firefox
[06:07] <nusr> taken2: so how about downloading the codecs for h264?
[06:07] <taken2> nusr: let me know what you recommend
[06:07] <sacarlson> taken2: when I run chromium I get all the boxes checked, more than I get from my present firefox install
[06:07] <taken2> I tried the trusty-media and gstreamer ffmpeg thing with no success
[06:08] <taken2> are you using 14.04 or 14.10?
[06:08] <PitchF> ive eared you cant watch netflix in 4k on linux
[06:08] <nusr> taken2: 14.04
[06:08] <taken2> PitchF: you can't watch Netflix in anything other than SD on linux
[06:09] <taken2> Chrome only supports SD with netflix, in Chrome OS and Ubuntu
[06:09] <PitchF> use firefox
[06:09] <sacarlson> taken2: if you don't have the skill or patiants to install the extra package that enables it all with a single click then install LInux Mint that has it preinstalled for you
[06:09] <PitchF> install the codecs
[06:09] <PitchF> you dumb?
[06:09] <taken2> sacarlson: what codecs?
[06:10] <PitchF> nonfree
[06:10] <cfhowlett> PitchF, stop the personal insults immediately
[06:10] <sacarlson> taken2: do you know how to install packages?
[06:10] <taken2> PitchF: You're using Netflix with Firefox?
[06:10] <ObrienDave> y'all never heard of compholio PPA? http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/
[06:10] <PitchF> i dont have netflix
[06:10] <taken2> sacarlson: I tried the trusty-media and the ffmpeg part for gstreamer
[06:10] <PitchF> its not availble here
[06:11] <PitchF> i just download
[06:11] <PitchF> stuff and watch
[06:11] <sacarlson> taken2: I don't know I run Linux Mint so I didn't have to install anything
[06:11] <taken2> PitchF: Ah, well, Netlfix requires silverlight or (now) Chrome
[06:11] <PitchF> have you seen the new moncey movie?
[06:11] <PitchF> monkey
[06:11] <PitchF> planet of the apes
[06:11] <PitchF> have you seen that one?
[06:12] <nusr> taken2: you tried the restricted extras and you don't have h264?
[06:12] <PitchF> from multiverse
[06:12] <cfhowlett> PitchF,  stay on topic or go elsewhere.  you KNOW this.
[06:13] <PitchF> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:13]  * ObrienDave munches popcorn
[06:13] <taken2> Obriendave: yes, there are many wine-silverlight-etc pakcages to hack Netflix onto Ubuntu. The point is to use it natively
[06:14] <sacarlson> Valduare: can't acccess what?  if you can ping you can access
[06:14] <Valduare> it’ll just spin all day in the browser
[06:14] <Valduare> but I can ping and ssh into and everything
[06:14] <taken2> nusr: I don't know where the restricted extras are
[06:14] <Valduare> dosnt do it on osx or windows just linux....
[06:14] <PitchF> ObrienDave: how do i install popcorn on android?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> taken2, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:15] <nusr> taken2: how I did it was to just use software center . then type in restricted extras and install the ubuntu ones
[06:15] <sacarlson> taken2: try https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/ubuntu-restricted-extras/  there might be one more package you need these days
[06:15] <cfhowlett> PitchF, ask www.xdadevelopers.com for android support.
[06:15] <taken2> cfhowlett: thank you
[06:16] <cfhowlett> taken2, happy2help
[06:16] <PitchF> you need some codec with ugly on its name
[06:17] <sacarlson> but I recall someone needed more than just restricted-extras.  I don't know since I never needed to install them
[06:18] <PitchF> i justy use pupy linux and everything works
[06:18] <taken2> cfhowlett: I think it's finished installing stuff, not sure, there is some Microsoft EULA. I hit "enter" and tried typing "ok" not sure if it is done
[06:18] <PitchF> 199 megas
[06:18] <PitchF> theres flash and all
[06:18] <PitchF> its the best distro
[06:18] <cfhowlett> taken2, that was to authorize the microsoft fonts.  it'll take a bit of time
[06:19] <PitchF> http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00097
[06:19] <PitchF> taken2:
[06:19] <PitchF> try this distro
[06:19] <taken2> cfhowlett: I don't know how top proceed. It's just showing this EULA. Not sure how to move past is.
[06:19] <cfhowlett> taken2, tab to yes and accept.
[06:20] <taken2> cfhowlett: thanks
[06:20] <PitchF> if you dont agree to the EULA just make your pet press the key
[06:20] <PitchF> by accident
[06:22] <taken2> cfhowlett: It worked!
[06:22] <PitchF> lo0l
[06:22] <PitchF> what did you knew
[06:22] <cfhowlett> taken2, did it fix youur issue?
[06:22] <sacarlson> taken2: so all the boxes blue now?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, restart FF required IIRC
[06:24] <taken2> cfhowlett: Yes, I can now watch HD video in h264 in Firefox
[06:24] <taken2> so, that means 1 of 2 issues solved
[06:24] <nusr> great
[06:24] <PitchF> cfhowlett: sacarlson was talking to taken2
[06:25] <nusr> what did i say about people knowing how to do stuff on ubuntu
[06:25] <taken2> cfhowlett: The other issue has nothing to do with Ubuntu, and everything to do with Google/Chrome
[06:25] <PitchF> this reminds me of the days you d have to install codecs on windows to watchy vids
[06:25] <cfhowlett> taken2, exceeds my knowledge.  ask away.
[06:26] <PitchF> dont linux vlc come with the codecs embebed?
[06:26] <taken2> cfhowlett: The problem is the Chrome on Chrome OS and therefore Chrome on Linux, do not support HD video in Netflix
[06:26] <PitchF> thats why you install firefox
[06:26] <taken2> cfhowlett: But, that has to be resolved by Google/Netflix
[06:27] <Tamarind> i by mistake unionstalled python from my gnome ubuntu 12.04 using terminal..now the desktoop manager is gone.. how do i regain it ?
[06:27] <cfhowlett> taken2, indeed.  best o fluck
[06:27] <taken2> PicthF: Netflix does not run in Firefox on Linux
[06:27] <sacarlson> taken2: send me your netflix account number and I'll check it out
[06:27] <PitchF> hehe
[06:27] <sacarlson> taken2: but here in thailand we need to run netflix over vpn
[06:27] <PitchF> i cant im not american
[06:27] <taken2> PitchF: Well, to be more specific, Netflix does not run on ANY browser but Chrome without silerverlight
[06:28] <PitchF> netflix doesent work here as is
[06:28] <nusr> taken2: can't you use user agent to change it to chrome?
[06:28] <taken2> nusr: no, you can't do that
[06:28] <PitchF> dosent run on opera?
[06:28] <taken2> nusr: I have had mixed success using a user agent string in Chrome to say I am using chrome on Windows 81.
[06:28] <PitchF> opera is chromebased
[06:29] <taken2> Chrome on Mac/Windows can do HD video in Netflix, but not on Chrome OS or Linux
[06:29] <PitchF> but netflix dosent work in europe
[06:29] <taken2> PicthF: Netflix is now in many European countries
[06:30] <sacarlson> taken2: seems moonlight will work for silverlight replacement http://www.mono-project.com/docs/web/moonlight/
[06:30] <PitchF> my connection only goes up to 720p
[06:30] <PitchF> no more bandwide
[06:30] <somsip> !tab | taken2
[06:31] <sacarlson> taken2: or I guess now it's pipelight http://www.itworld.com/article/2697813/enterprise-software/install-silverlight-alternative-pipelight-in-ubuntu-14-04.html
[06:31] <taken2> I can use my PS3 to watch netflix in Super HD
[06:31] <PitchF> i hate tab completion on command line cause if the beepper
[06:31] <taken2> but the PS3 is noisy and is not a regular desktop computer
[06:32] <taken2> so, I bought the Chromebox
[06:32] <PitchF> i dunno who had thought it was a good idea
[06:32] <sacarlson> taken2: test out pipelight and tell us how it works for you
[06:33] <taken2> sacarlson: Netflix is moving away from silverlight. The whole point is there will be no more "hacks" or workarounds
[06:33] <PitchF> theres a new version of silverlight
[06:33] <PitchF> i didnt installed it
[06:33] <sacarlson> taken2: just download every movie tv show on the planet with eztv.it
[06:34] <PitchF> maybe you can use it on wine
[06:34] <somsip> !illegal | sacarlson
[06:34] <PitchF> popcorn
[06:34] <PitchF> you dont need to dl anything
[06:34] <PitchF> ive never used it
[06:34] <taken2> hmm. Just experienced my first crash
[06:35] <sacarlson> is netflix legal?  I guess it is
[06:35] <somsip> sacarlson: that torrent site certainly it
[06:35] <PitchF> better use tha kickass
[06:35] <somsip> s/is/contains illegally shared content/ (same difference really)
[06:36] <Surendil> night everyone
[06:36] <taken2> sacarlson: Anyway, as I was writing before the things crashed, Netflix is abandoning silverlight, and the whole point is that it will work natively (via Chrome) on all platforms without "hacks" or workarounds
[06:36] <PitchF> https://cdn.popcorntime.io/build/Popcorn-Time-0.3.4-Linux32.tar.xz
[06:37] <PitchF> that should work
[06:37] <PitchF> i never used it
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Flannel, thank you
[06:37] <PitchF> what?
[06:38] <taken2> I'm going to trash this install and reinstall 14.10 and see if the restricted package thing works in 14.10
[06:38] <Flannel> PitchF: Please keep this channel legal, and on-topic, thanks.
[06:38] <somsip> cfhowlett: that was Pitchf being kicked was it?
[06:38] <PitchF> thats not legal?
[06:38] <somsip> cfhowlett: ignore ^^
[06:38] <PitchF> theres this site on the internet
[06:38] <PitchF> must be legal
[06:39] <PitchF> gona try it see if it works allright
[06:39] <nusr> taken2: maybe select "installed additional 3rd party stuff..codecs mp3 etc" when prompted during the installation.
[06:40] <taken2> nusr: maybe that's not an option because it's done via Chrubuntu ;)
[06:40] <nusr> taken2: ok. just see how it goes
[06:42] <PitchF> can i ask to by chromebook with linux alredy instaled?
[06:42] <taken2> the other question I have is about GPU acceleration of video
[06:43] <taken2> on my Mac, h264 uses very little CPU
[06:43] <ObrienDave> because the GPU handles it
[06:43] <taken2> on this chrome box (with a more powerful CPU and much more powerful GPU) even 720p stutters a little
[06:44] <taken2> In the next version of Ubuntu, will video be handled by the GPU instead of the CPU?
[06:44] <sacarlson> taken2: it might improve with proprietary video drivers if available
[06:45] <cfhowlett> taken2, depends on your system hardware.
[06:45] <taken2> This is Intel Haswell integrated graphics
[06:45] <taken2> it's an Asus Chromebox
[06:45] <cfhowlett> taken2, did you install the intel graphics drivers?
[06:45] <taken2> cfhowlett: I did not do any special installs
[06:45] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: are there proprietary for intel?
[06:45] <GirlDev> Hey on releases like TV shows does "x264" always mean better quality than "XVID"? I notice the XVID is always bigger in size, is it better quality tho? This is for HDTV
[06:45] <GirlDev> Hey on releases like TV shows does "x264" always mean better quality than "XVID"? I notice the XVID is always bigger in size, is it better quality tho? This is for HDTV
[06:45] <GirlDev> *Sry double post
[06:46] <taken2> GirlDev: All things equal, H264 is better
[06:46] <cfhowlett> taken2, sacarlson https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[06:46] <PitchF> x264 better quallity with less bitrate
[06:47] <cfhowlett> taken2, sacarlson more precisely:   https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[06:47] <taken2> GirlDev: H264 is more CPU intensive, because it's more efficient
[06:47] <PitchF> i dont know why people still use xvid?!
[06:47] <cfhowlett> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2014/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.6-linux
[06:47] <taken2> PitchF: I just answered your question
[06:47] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: seem not for me from that link Xeon E3-1200 is what I have
[06:48] <PitchF> you really need some outadted cpu if you cant play H264
[06:48] <cfhowlett> sacarlson, I missed the link, but intel recently releases a native linux GPU driver that noticeably improves performance
[06:48] <GirlDev> Ah cool, this is for scene releases, I notice they still rls XVID. Bigger in filesize, doesnt mean better quality though right
[06:49] <PitchF> i started watching h264 and never gone back to xvid
[06:49] <PitchF> the gradients are always blurie on xvid
[06:51] <PitchF> you get like dvd quality on 700 megas per movie
[06:53] <taken2> I think they should reduce the footrpint of Gnome System Monitor. It's taking up 12-30% of my CPU, heh
[06:54] <GirlDev> Should x264 look more blocky than XVID? I thought it'd be the other way around, since xvid is older I'm using MPC + CCCP
[06:54] <nusr> taken2: you have good suggestions and seem to know a lot about video..how about submitting requests to the ubuntu team
[06:55] <sacarlson> cfhowlett: I'm looking at my modinfo i915 to determine if I already have the new stuf.  as it seem it's opensource I think I have it already
[06:58] <PitchF> taken2:gnome sucks
[06:58] <JesusNazareth> PitchF: Unity is better
[06:58] <JesusNazareth> but then again I love debian
[06:58] <PitchF> why?
[06:58] <PitchF> i never used unity
[06:58] <PitchF> lol
[06:59] <PitchF> lxde xface are quite nice
[06:59] <PitchF> mate seems good too
[06:59] <PitchF> never used mate
[06:59] <sacarlson> PitchF: I"m a gnome dude.  my old software won't even run on unity
[06:59] <taken2> GirlDev: Yes, h264 should be better
[06:59] <PitchF> might try that
[06:59] <JesusNazareth> PitchF: If you theme unity is it is good looking desktip
[06:59] <PitchF> mate is gnome done right
[07:00] <JesusNazareth> PitchF: mate is gnome 2
[07:00] <Flannel> PitchF: Can you please cut back on the commentary? This isn't a discussion channel. Thanks.
[07:00] <PitchF> no its better
[07:00]  * ObrienDave munches popcorn
[07:03] <sacarlson> GirlDev: it's much dependent on the bitrate settings used in the video conversion process that have much to do with the video quality of the outcome.  I'm not sure witch codec is best
[07:03] <nusr> PitchF: yes another human who thinks so..i think gnome sucks too
[07:04] <nusr> PitchF: and despite consensus..unity is actually good....this is coming from a windows user who dumped windows just from 14.04
[07:04] <hateball> !ot
[07:05] <taken2> cfhowlett: I installed the Intel linux package but don't see a difference in CPU utilization. Do I need to reboot my system for it to take effect?
[07:05] <sacarlson> GirlDev: to do a real compare you would have to judge two videos with same bitrate and same pixel scale and different codec
[07:05] <cfhowlett> taken2, possibly.  I think there's a command to restart gpu only services, but I don't know it.
[07:06] <taken2> cfhowlett: okay, I'll try rebooting
[07:06] <PitchF> popcorn looks legit
[07:06] <GirlDev> Ah cool, this is for scene releases, like the popular groups, so I think x264 is better than XVID. For example usually LOL rls x264, FUM rls XVID, XVID filesize is bigger
[07:07] <sacarlson> GirlDev: ok and the pixel scale screen size X Y?  they also the same
[07:07] <PitchF> need popcorn on my smarttv
[07:08] <ObrienDave> Flannel, much more patient than I ;P
[07:09] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, same same ^^^^^^
[07:10] <somsip> !ignore | ObrienDave
[07:11]  * ObrienDave is very familiar with the /ignore command ;P
[07:11] <ObrienDave> thanks :)
[07:11] <somsip> ObrienDave: much better to use it and not keep doing the 'munches popcorn' to feed the troll then? :)
[07:12] <ObrienDave> naw, i was waiting for them to get kicked LOL
[07:12] <ObrienDave> anyway, OT ;P
[07:12] <Flannel> ObrienDave: You were also adding to the disruption (and were almost kicked)
[07:12] <somsip> ObrienDave: and if waiting takes a while, I find ignore is the best option. Agreed on the OT.
[07:16] <taken2> cfhowlett: Rebooting didn't change anything. I tried h264 and Flash, both used similar CPU amounts, with Flash using slightly less, and h264 playing a bit more smoothly. I was hoping this machine would make good use of the GPU, but that doesn't seem to be the case for h264 video in Firefox, at least.
[07:17] <cfhowlett> taken2, integrated graphics are not always the best option.  sorry it didn't give you your fix.
[07:18] <taken2> cfhowlett: Of course, I was just saying that the GPU is much more powerful than my Mac, so I thought it would do better
[07:18] <taken2> cfhowlett: My guess is these things need to be integrated first (Firefox, h264, Intel GPU acceleration)
[07:19] <taken2> cfhowlett: I'm not a computer scientist, but my guess is these components aren't taking full advantage of each other
[07:19] <cfhowlett> taken2, well that WOULD be nice, wouldn't it?  perhaps mozilla will get with the program here ....
[07:20] <taken2> cfhowlett: I was just trying to determine if this machine will meet my usage expectations or if I should return
[07:20] <taken2> It looks like returning it is the correct choice :(
[07:21] <taken2> Maybe Broadwell machines and the next version of Ubuntu these things will be ironed out
[07:21] <cfhowlett> taken2, well if THAT'S the choice, get yourself a linux friendly device!   dell xps 13, zareason, system 76 all are 100% OOTB linux ready
[07:21] <Svetlana> There also is h-node.org where you can search for free hardware.
[07:22] <taken2> The Asus Chromebox is tiny, silent, and cost $160. On paper I thought it would be great.
[07:22] <cfhowlett> taken2, dat memory: 16 gb?  dealbreaker for me
[07:23] <taken2> cfhowlett: Sure, but you can put a different SSD in it, add more memory, etc
[07:23] <taken2> My linux partition is only 9GB
[07:23] <taken2> plenty for what I wanted to do with it
[07:24] <taken2> and it was fun to take a device that is not supposed to run anything but Chrome and put Ubuntu on it
[07:24] <taken2> I like to tinker a bit here and there
[07:24] <taken2> The process was pretty easy, though
[07:25] <ki7mt> That's my problem too, spend too much time playing with getting x,y,z to install and run, rather than running it.
[07:25] <GirlDev> sacarlson : GirlDev: ok and the pixel scale screen size X Y?  they also the same  <-- Sry for delay, was showering lol :P , what do u mean pixel scale
[07:25] <taken2> cfhowlett: Anyway, thanks for your tips and suggestions. We got h264 running in Firefox, so that was a major achievement. Thanks again. :)
[07:26] <cfhowlett> taken2, best of luck to you.
[07:26] <sacarlson> GirlDev: a video can be scaled to any picture size  up and down
[07:26] <sacarlson> left and right
[07:27] <GirlDev> Oh u mean like, same size window on monitor? Or resolution, I think it's both SD
[07:27] <sacarlson> GirlDev: it take much less bandwidth  to compress a 640 x 480 video as with hdtv  1080 X ????
[07:28] <sacarlson> GirlDev: they will again scale 640 X 480 image to fit your screen size and posibly make it grainy
[07:29] <GirlDev> Oh I see, not sure of X Y, they're released by LOL & FUM & other popular scene groups tho, like usually LOL rls x264, FUM rls XVID, XVID filesize is bigger
[07:31] <sacarlson> GirlDev: ffmpeg can display the specs of a video file that you can use to compare that includes bitrate  X Y scale ....
[07:33] <GirlDev> Ah cool haha, Bitrate doesnt fully determine quality, its codec dependent too right
[07:40] <linocisco> hi all
[07:41] <linocisco> I have problem installing Canon LBP 3050 on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit OS
[07:41] <linocisco> any relevent guide?
[07:44] <marc-julian> well i installed ubuntu 14.10
[07:45] <marc-julian> because linux looks perfect, doesnt it?
[07:48] <notore> how to run chkdsk?
[07:48] <ilk__> 14.10 isnt all that stable bro
[07:48] <ilk__> just sayin
[07:48] <ilk__> dont put your kids photos on that
[07:49] <somsip> notore: chkdsk is windows only. What do you want to do?
[07:49] <marc-julian> Well the 14.10 version is working fine for me
[07:49] <ilk__> yeah i have the server working but desktop keeps crashing on me
[07:50] <ilk__> idk legacy nvidia card or something
[07:50] <notore> i believe my hard drive is faulty i want to check it, when i use dell support diagnostic tool and scan hard drives on windows it crashes with blue screen but when i run chkdsk on drives everything seems ok, so waned to test something in ubuntu too
[07:50] <marc-julian> Well, my desktop didnt crash badly, it still was there
[07:50] <notore> dell diagnostic doesnt support ubutnu
[07:51] <ilk__> on KDE /utilites/disks
[07:51] <marc-julian> dell diagnostic isnt good for ubuntu, because it can sometimes break
[07:51] <somsip> notore: what are you trying to diagnose?
[07:51] <marc-julian> itself
[07:52] <ilk__> i had a dell bluescreen on first boot of windows 8
[07:52] <somsip> notore: sorry - just read back
[07:52] <ilk__> notore how old is the media?
[07:52] <marc-julian> but, does fujitsu support ubuntu?
[07:52] <somsip> !testing | notore (see smartmontools)
[07:52] <notore> ilk__, what do you mean media? hard drive? almost 4 years
[07:54] <marc-julian> i used a 151 GB for ubuntu 14.10
[07:55] <ilk__> me too, old IDE, from 2000
[07:55] <ilk__> 15 yrs old
[07:56] <linocisco> I have problem installing Canon LBP 3050 on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit OS
[07:56] <linocisco> any relevent guide?
[07:56] <somsip> ilk__: you use a 15 year old HD and blame ubuntu for crashing? Maybe you should run through smartmontools too...
[07:58] <ilk__> the whining drive helps me sleep at night
[08:02] <notore> someone, when i run fdisk -l i get 7 drives, do i have to run tool on each of them?
[08:02] <notore> somsip,
[08:02] <somsip> notore: you run the tool on the ones you want to check. Make sure you read the instructions for the tools so you know what you are doing and the effects of what you are doing
[08:03] <notore> idk why there are so many drives :D but as i understood i need to run this command sudo smartctl -t long path
[08:04] <somsip> notore: I've never used it, so if you're unsure you should check what you are doing
[08:04] <notore> well in manual it says that its used for testing
[08:05] <notore> but what it does idk lol
[08:06] <marc-julian> Sometimes, its hard to use commands in terminal
[08:06] <notore> just that i have one hard drive but i get 7 drives or partition when i run fdisk -l
[08:06] <notore> so idk if should check them all one by one or i can check whole hard drive at once or its the same thing
[08:07] <th3_mol3> anyone know an easy way to change the resolution of login screen for multiple monitors?
[08:07] <somsip> notore: you will have to do some reading. This is a random page for a short test http://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Analyzing_a_Faulty_Hard_Disk_using_Smartctl#SMART_Tests
[08:07] <notore> or maybe dev/sda is same as dev/sda1 dev/sda2 dev/sda3 and so on?
[08:08] <ObrienDave> notore, sda is the physical drive. sda1, sda2, etc, are partitions within that drive
[08:08] <somsip> notore: you are testing drives not partitions, so you will use /dev/sda /dev/sdb and not /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb2 etc
[08:08] <somsip> notore: one at a time...
[08:10] <notore> oh ok then it scheduled offline test probably because cant test the drive which is being used right now like so gonna restart
[08:10] <Jaeko> DOWNLOAD THIS GAME IS FOR FREE http://www.indiedb.com/games/the-brave-ball/downloads/the-brave-ball-alpha-demo
[08:12] <marc-julian> i will edit my irc chat app
[08:12] <notore> ah nvm its not mean that
[08:13] <Marc-Julian> I have to reconnect.
[08:14] <Marc-Julian> but i just did that already
[08:22] <th3_mol3> can anyone help me? doesn't seem to be anything online
[08:22] <Svetlana> only if you ask
[08:22] <th3_mol3> anyone know an easy way to change the resolution of login screen for multiple monitors?
[08:22] <th3_mol3> using 14.04
[08:23] <Svetlana> I would probably try to set it in configs of whichever user the display manager runs as
[08:27] <mozzarella> guys
[08:27] <mozzarella> can I get pepper flash on chromium
[08:28] <Sheepolution> I fucked up. I changed my login manager to Slim, and now I can't login. Maybe not Ubuntu specific but I don't know where else to ask.
[08:29] <mozzarella> Sheepolution: ctrl+alt+f1 and change it back
[08:29] <Sheepolution> mozzarella: Yeah but here is the thing. When pressing that, my screen goes black
[08:30] <mozzarella> Sheepolution: does it show you a prompt?
[08:30] <Sheepolution> As in, my screen doesn't see anything it can show, as if my computer is turned off, and thus my screen turns off
[08:30] <Sheepolution> When pressing on F1 it switches the window managers, but it gives me whole other options then the ones I have installed.
[08:31] <Ben64> Sheepolution: watch the language in this channel, and how are you unable to login
[08:33] <Marc-Julian> ubuntu 4.10 was out of date.
[08:33] <Sheepolution> Ben64: Excuse me for swearing. When I login, it doesn't go to my window manager. It stays at the login manager
[08:35] <Ben64> Sheepolution: that's strange, how did you install slim?
[08:35] <Sheepolution> Ben64: I think just apt-get.
[08:35] <Tabmow> My volume keeps on being adjusted down automatically, anyone seen this before? Upon googling some people think it is skype, which I have but I have disabled that feature and it occurs when skype is not open also. Anyone have any ideas?
[08:35] <Sheepolution> But it was a while I ago I installed it
[08:35] <Sheepolution> I just never switched to it until now
[08:36] <Ben64> ok then, how did you switch to it
[08:37] <Sheepolution> I asked here how to fix my login manager (because before this I didn't have any and went straight to my i3wm)
[08:37] <Sheepolution> They said to do something like lightdm config  in the terminal
[08:37] <Sheepolution> Then I had options lightdm and slim.
[08:38] <Sheepolution> And I changed to slim.
[08:38] <Ben64> ok cool so you can change it back from terminal. do you have ssh installed?
[08:38] <Ben64> ssh server*
[08:38] <Sheepolution> Ben64: I'm not sure because I'm not sure what that is.
[08:39] <Ben64> ah ok. then you could restart, get into the recovery mode from grub, and do it there
[08:39] <Mega> Hi guys! I decided to install Ubuntu 14.10 as second system on my PC next to Windows 7 (actually as first :) I encountered a problem, it's about "Shrink volume" in Windows. I switched off hibernate and pagefile, I deleted related files etc ( over this instructions http://paste.ofcode.org/j5KBbayr8aaUMcP37wawph ) But nevertheless Windows lets me to shrink 2688MB only (I have 51GB free space on my SSD) Could somebody help me please? Thank you!
[08:39] <Ben64> !recovery | Sheepolution
[08:39] <Ben64> recovery mode will give you a root shell, you should be able to switch back from there, then reboot normally
[08:39] <hateball> Mega: Use something like gparted-live to resize your partitions. Backup first as always.
[08:40] <Sheepolution> Ben64: Okay cool, I will try that
[08:44] <thoonai> hey, I'm searching for a method to encrypt a file with a key file
[08:45] <thoonai> symmetrically and gnupg somehow does not offer this
[08:45] <Honey_nets_way> php encrypt 128 k/bits
[08:46] <Honey_nets_way> or use a tesla modulator b to b
[08:48] <Mega> hateball: One more question, please. Need I make a special live-USB, or may I use usual .iso image that I obtained from  ubuntu.com/download/desktop ?
[08:49] <hateball> Mega: gparted is included on the ubuntu-image, it'll work just fine
[08:50] <hateball> Mega: Resizing takes time, so keep that in mind before you start :)
[08:50] <Mega> hateball: Thank you! Have a nice day ^^,
[08:54] <studentttu> Hello, I have a weird problem.  My sound in ubuntu is wrong its playing right-sounds on left ear and the opposite. It bothers me because my headphones are not unisex - I cant keep them the wrong way around lol
[08:56] <Varro> Helå. Is it possible to give disabled users a prompt to contact system admin when they try to log in to their account?
[08:56] <Mathisen> hello im using subsonic to stream my music but i want an easy way to get my podcasts also and that is a premium feature does any one know any free alternative for podcasts ?
[09:03] <sarthor> HI, using latest ubuntu-desktop, Right click and sendto is not shown in menu, How to enable that feature while nautilus-sendto is already installed.
[09:05] <ObrienDave> studentttu, not possible. turn headphones around anyway
[09:06] <studentttu> ObrienDave:  actually in google some guy got it to work in 2012 by just changing sound conf, but I wasnt able to do same in 14.04
[09:06] <studentttu> version
[09:06] <ObrienDave> look at your headphones. you will see a L and/or R on them
[09:07] <Marc-Julian> Well, i am a ubuntu user, and i very like linux.
[09:07] <v_> xdg-open doesn't work properly on my chrome. I installed playonlinux, and on google chrome when I click a playonlinux:// link, it launches a popup asking if I want to run xdg-open I run it, but nothign happens
[09:07] <studentttu> ObrienDave:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036044
[09:08] <studentttu> that didnt work for me
[09:09] <BWorld> My mouse keeps snapping to the left screen when I point my mouse to the center of the screen, from then I can only move the mouse vertically, when moving to the upper screen I can move it freely around between the other 3 screens, I have no clue what is going on. my xorg config looks okay, anyone heard of this problem before?
[09:09] <dandre> Hello,
[09:09] <ObrienDave> studentttu, new one on me. apologies
[09:10] <dandre> I am looking for a simple toolbar applet with a text box where I can write some parameters which will be given to a customised command. Does this exists?
[09:11] <ObrienDave> studentttu, did you try a relog?
[09:12] <sacarlson> dandre: you can create launcher with custom params
[09:13] <sacarlson> dandre: just right click any of them, they should open and have a few boxes,  the command box then can be edited
[09:14] <pengwu> Hi all
[09:14] <pengwu> Web app does not work under 14.10
[09:14] <pengwu> How can I fix it ?
[09:14] <Svetlana> dandre: Yes. Verve. And make your command an alias.
[09:14] <Svetlana> dandre: You'll have to type the whole thing, but if you use an alias then it's easier to type.
[09:15] <Svetlana> pengwu: Which web app?
[09:15] <sacarlson> pengwu: for 1) there must be 4000 web apps  2) what problem?
[09:15] <pengwu> all of them
[09:16] <sacarlson> pengwu: well phpmyadmin seems to work fine and it's a web app
[09:16] <pengwu> Do you know ubuntu unity web apps ?
[09:16] <pengwu> All of them stop working
[09:16] <pengwu> I can't even install them
[09:16] <pengwu> I am not interesting  in PHP
[09:17] <Svetlana> Give more detail, for communication's sake!
[09:17] <pengwu> like youtube webapp
[09:17] <sacarlson> pengwu: are web apps like browswers?
[09:17] <pengwu> unity-webapps-bbcnews
[09:18] <pengwu> unity-webapps-youtube
[09:18] <sacarlson> pengwu: try firefox
[09:18] <pengwu> THX anyway
[09:19] <pengwu> There must be a number of people have the same issue
[09:19] <pengwu> 14.10 is doggy
[09:19] <sacarlson> pengwu: sorry I use mate so I have no problems
[09:21] <v_> if web browser mime type is text/html what is mime-type for playonlinux?
[09:22] <v_> application/PlayOnLinux ?
[09:23] <sacarlson> v_: maybe it's an exicutable?
[09:23] <v_> playonlinux ye it is executable so that is not a mime-type
[09:23] <sacarlson> oh sorry playonlinux is mime for what
[09:23] <v_> I need to set a mime-type for it
[09:23] <v_> to open playonlinux:// links
[09:25] <dandre> sacarlson: that's not what I am looking for, thanks
[09:25] <v_> how can I browser different mime types
[09:26] <dandre> Svetlana: verve is for xfce. Is it compatible with gnome?
[09:26] <linocisco> I have problem installing Canon LBP 3050 on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit OS
[09:26] <linocisco> any relevent guide?
[09:26] <v_> so complicated to make playonlinux:// links work
[09:27] <v_> and so difficult to find a list of different mime-types
[09:28] <v_> okay. I found a list, but there is no generic for playonlinux. So I guess I need to create a mime-type for it somehow
[09:28] <sacarlson> v_: as far as I can tell it's a tool to allow you to create gui type envirnments from with bash type scrypts
[09:28] <Marc-Julian> i am getting busy right now. :/
[09:31] <v_> playonlinux created a playonlinux.desktop on /usr/share/applications which I could point to with gvfs-mime --set mimetype?/mimetype? playonlinux.desktop but I don't know what to set there
[09:31] <waressearcher2> I run command: "bzip2 -c -9 sda5.tar > sda5_1.tar.bz2" and "top" shows that process "bzip2" uses about 30% of cpu, why ? its not 100% ?
[09:32] <sacarlson> v_: I would think it's just a bash script so you can just run it
[09:34] <sacarlson> waressearcher2: maybe it's not a multi threaded app and you have more that one cpu
[09:35] <v_> sacarlson: how?
[09:35] <sacarlson> v_:  how do you run an app?  type it in a console
[09:35] <waressearcher2> sacarlson: I have Core2Duo E2160
[09:35] <v_> http://www.playonlinux.com/en/app-1950-Hearthstone.html
[09:35] <v_> playonlinux://www.playonlinux.com/repository/download.php?id=1950
[09:36] <v_> if I type that on terminal it won't work
[09:36] <geirha> waressearcher2: probably IO bound. E.g. the disk can't feed it data fast enough and/or can't write the data fast enough
[09:37] <sacarlson> v_: as it shows in the program it's a bash script #!/bin/bash
[09:38] <sacarlson> v_: you may have to set the perms to allow it to run chmod +x  scriptname
[09:38] <waressearcher2> geirha: for example "cat /dev/zero > /dev/null" shows stable 99% CPU load ?  but it uses one core
[09:39] <geirha> waressearcher2: Well, that one isn't reading from or writing to a disk
[09:40] <waressearcher2> geirha: iostat shows that reading from drive is just under 1Mb/s, so there is no "slow drive" issues
[09:42] <geirha> waressearcher2: you're missing the point. The bzip process has to read some chunks from the file (on disk), process them, and get rid of the processed chunks (by writing them back to disk) before it can start taking on new chunks
[09:42] <v_> sacarlson: I saved that source code to a hearthstone-install.sh, saved it, and did chmod +x hearthstone-install.sh, then typed ./hearthstone-install.sh and nothing happened, in 0.1sec it executed
[09:43] <geirha> waressearcher2: And the CPU is much faster than your disk
[09:43] <sacarlson> v_: oh I may  have been wrong it also looks to be something like wine to run windows apps in linux
[09:44] <sacarlson> v_: did you install playonlinux?
[09:44] <v_> yea
[09:44] <sacarlson> v_: oh playonlinux if frontend for wine
[09:45] <v_> I need playonlinux to run that script I guess
[09:45] <Avic> hello. i have been thinking. I need a desktop enviornment in the server where i have ubuntu. is there a way to install remmina in my windows 7?
[09:45] <sacarlson> v_: so I would assume you also have wine installed
[09:45] <v_> yea playonlinux installed wine also
[09:46] <v_> in playonlinux there is an option to run a local script
[09:46] <v_> on tools section
[09:46] <v_> I'm not sure if I could run it there
[09:47] <v_> yea. It works from running it there. Installing now
[09:47] <v_> thanks sacarlson
[09:47] <sacarlson> v_: that looked to be the setup script for Hearthstone-Setup-enUS.exe  do you also have that?
[09:48] <v_> I have it somewhere actually, but not probably in the right place
[09:48] <sacarlson> v_: ya that may be your problem
[09:48] <v_> can't the script download it
[09:48] <v_> or does it assume I have it on same dir as script
[09:48] <v_> I put it there now then
[09:49] <ertyui> hello there
[09:49] <v_> except I cant find it
[09:49] <notore> anyone can help with smart test results http://paste.ubuntu.com/8730834/ read failure isn't good right?
[09:49] <ertyui> i would like to know how it calls the package using snmpwalk ?
[09:49] <sacarlson> v_: sure if I wrote the script I could but I'm not sure they did as that would be iligal
[09:50] <ertyui> ubuntu says with apt : E: Unable to locate package snmpwalk
[09:50] <sacarlson> ertyui: try sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <ertyui> apt-get update to install snmpwalk ?
[09:51] <sacarlson> ertyui: nope don't see that in the repository  just snmp
[09:52] <ertyui> even after an update it gives same error
[09:52] <ertyui> my question is simply how it calls the package snmpwalk ?
[09:52] <ertyui> on apt
[09:53] <sacarlson> ertyui: sudo apt-get install snmp
[09:53] <v_> the script downloaded the hearthstone setup ok
[09:54] <sacarlson> ertyui: the question is how do I install the command snmpwalk,  what package do I need to install that contains it
[09:54] <ertyui> yes that's coorect
[09:55] <sacarlson> ertyui: or do you want instructions on how to use the command?
[09:59] <Avic> i want to use a vitrual machine in windows to be able to install xubuntu to install remmina to access the server using xubuntu also, is this possible?
[10:00] <sacarlson> Avic: yes asuming your computer has the resources needed to do so with mem and disk space
[10:01] <sacarlson> !remmina
[10:01] <Avic> how much disc space is needed?
[10:01] <sacarlson> Avic: about 10gb
[10:01] <Avic> yes i have the space
[10:02] <sacarlson> Avic: and about 2gb mem min
[10:02] <Avic> i have 16 gb in windows
[10:02] <nopf> Avic: according to my experience running virtual{desktop,machine} solutions within each other you might get real problems using super (aka windows), maybe even ctrl-alt combinations and such. sometimes works, sometimes it's clumsy at best
[10:02] <Avic> ram
[10:03] <sacarlson> Avic: then I guess your good to go,  I don't know what that app remmina is so ???
[10:03] <nopf> sacarlson: it's like vncviewer a bit
[10:04] <Avic> remmina is a server like vnc but for linux to access other desktop
[10:04] <sacarlson> ok
[10:04] <Avic> its much better than vnc
[10:04] <sacarlson> Avic: teamviewer is cool
[10:05] <Avic> so what vm should i install?
[10:05] <sacarlson> Avic: I"ve never run inside windows but virtualbox supports it
[10:07] <Ben64> Avic: remmina is just a vnc/rdp client, nothing special. if thats the only thing you want to run, you can find a client on windows to do that, kind of silly to have a whole VM just for that
[10:07] <dym> Hey! I have somewhat of a task here :) I have a host machine, hosting a vm that's networked via bridged networking and has a private ip (10.1.55.80) and runs a webserver on port 80. The host machine has a public ip address via a VPN connection. What im trying is to establish port forwarding from the hosts' public ip address port 5000 to the vm's webserver. I tried using a shorewall DNAT rule saying and the redirect seems to occour, but never reaches it's des
[10:08] <dym> Sorry - im using kvm/qemu + libvirt
[10:08] <Ben64> dym: your message ends with "but never reaches it's de"
[10:09] <nopf> Avic: i'd use virtualbox, because qemu doesn't seem to have an official windows binary. vmware is a comfy option if you love closed source
[10:09] <dym> rest: stination. http://pastebin.com/xnyXFcVK
[10:09] <dym> :)
[10:09] <dym> Sorry Ben64
[10:09] <Ben64> dym: no problem, just figured you'd want to know if your message got cut off
[10:10] <sacarlson> dym wow that will take me a bit to absorb
[10:10] <Avic> so, virtualbox can be the way to go.
[10:10] <Avic> hmmm
[10:10] <dym> sacarlson: how so? :)
[10:10] <Ben64> Avic: seriously, why are you wanting to run a VM for remmina
[10:10] <jpds> dym: Is this actually going to be a publicly used web service?
[10:10] <dym> jpds: negative.
[10:10] <dym> jpds: well, for my purposes - yes.
[10:10] <jpds> dym: So it's a test VM?
[10:11] <dym> jpds: No. It's a productive VM in my Home Network
[10:11] <jpds> dym: Well, why don't you just install a VPN server on the host and have the VPN give you a route to your client?
[10:12] <dym> jpds: im utilizing a public ip from an online VPN server
[10:12] <dym> to make the VM host accessable
[10:12] <Avic> i want to access the server desktop enviornment the best way possible, i tried vnc, rdp, freenx (this one i had all day yesterday and couldn't get it right) Ben64
[10:12] <dym> jpds: I have the feeling im not that far off with this configuration.
[10:12] <Ben64> Avic: so use vnc! for days you've been doing things the hardest ways possible
[10:12] <rishabh> whenever i start my ubuntu operating system...pop up window comes up displaying system program problem detected
[10:13] <nopf> Avic: you should seriously consider migrating from windows fully. your heart seems to be already somewhere else :)
[10:13] <rishabh> please tell how to resolve this problem
[10:13] <jpds> dym: Right, what I do is I don't port forward, I just open my private subnet to my VPN clients.
[10:13] <dym> jpds: how that?
[10:14] <Avic> i coul then play some other linux programs in windows :-)
[10:14] <rishabh> whenever i start my ubuntu operating system...pop up window comes up displaying system program problem detected
[10:14] <Avic> i'm afraid that in some way can damege windows tough
[10:14] <rishabh> can anyone please help me out?
[10:14] <Ben64> !patience | rishabh
[10:14] <Svetlana> Click 'more details' and go from there rishabh, give us more details
[10:15] <Svetlana> The dialog should have such button
[10:15] <rishabh> there are two options only , cancel and report problem
[10:16] <Svetlana> Report problem and it'll show more details there
[10:16] <S0NiC_> Hey Guys
[10:16] <nopf> Avic: you mean by running virtualbox? i don't think there are any known cases of that, if you don't have really bad malware made by TLAs
[10:17] <S0NiC_> I have a little problem installing ubuntu 12.04 on my samsung 840 pro ssd
[10:17] <S0NiC_> it says allwasy no disk drive was detected please choose your driver
[10:17] <S0NiC_> any ideas?
[10:19] <sacarlson> dym: for one thing I guess you can just configure apache to listen and work from port 5000,  not that I"ve ever tried it
[10:20] <dym> sacarlson: but what use would that be?
[10:20] <sacarlson> dym: well I still don't fully have a map of the full idea how you want the one to basicly proxy to your vpn home
[10:22] <sacarlson> dym: well the use would be you wouldn't have to setup dnat snat  as I guess that's the part your also missing is snat  or masqarade
[10:22] <Avic> to use freenx i vave to use the nx protocol, right? or ssh... if using nx i have to use the port 4000, its very confusing
[10:23] <dym> sacarlson: wouldnt contrack render masquerading obsolete?+
[10:24] <sacarlson> dym: the other option maybe look at squid proxy
[10:24] <Avic> to use freenx i vave to use the nx protocol, right? or ssh... if using nx i have to use the port 4000, its very confusing... And i need to use proxy or not?
[10:24] <akis> hi all. i am running 14.04.1 on an old pc with only 4gb hd. i installed minimal lubuntu to save space but every time the system is being updated and new kernel&headers are installed my  hd looses about of 250mb of free space. is there any oprion to save space deleting older kernel's version or any other way?
[10:24] <sacarlson> dym: I don't know I still use masquarade so I know it still works
[10:27] <akis> is this procedure recommendable? http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[10:29] <Svetlana> akis: I would say it's too confusing, has too many options, etc.  I would make a wiki page out of the synaptic bit, and perhaps add others too, but they need a thorough explanation with links to relevant manual pages.
[10:30] <akis> Svetlana: what can you suggest me to save space ot my tiny hd?
[10:33] <Adephit> virtualbox can only install 32bit linux ubuntu?
[10:34] <Adephit> installed the virtualbox. but can only install linux 32bit software, is this normal?
[10:36] <Svetlana> akis: run 'ncdu' or 'kdirstat' to see what takes the space.
[10:39] <BWorld> Could someone help me out with a little mouse related problem? I have 4 screens, and when I move my mouse to 50% to left on one of the 4 screens it moves immediatly to the left side and it gets stuck, I can only move it vertically, this is the only way I can move to the other screens and these dont have this problem..
[10:39] <BWorld> I am running ubuntu 14
[10:40] <DJones> BWorld: Its called sticky edges, I think the setting is in the display settings
[10:41] <azizLIGHT> how can i see fps counter on games? what is the equivalent of FRAPS from windows?
[10:41] <DJones> I think that may be the issue
[10:41] <BWorld> Hmm, when I try to open up the display settings screen it reports the RANDR extension is missing (I am using nvidia drivers)
[10:42] <BWorld> DJones: Is there another way I can turn off sticky edges, and I dont have sticky edges on other screens btw
[10:43] <DJones> BWorld: Sounds like I'm on the wrong track, reading the issue again, I don't think it is that, I'm not sure what might be causing it
[10:43] <BWorld> DJones: besides, I think it would be strange having sticky edges activated when I am at 50% of the screen...
[10:43] <BWorld> Hmkay, I cant find much on google either, that brought me here
[10:43] <hateball> azizLIGHT: this is one way https://github.com/ValveSoftware/voglperf
[10:44] <azizLIGHT> thanks
[10:45] <sacarlson> dym: I also forgot about the proxy server built into apache2  assuming the system that touches the wan Internet side has apache2 already on it example http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html
[10:48] <sacarlson> dym: with that you can forward anything that touches a folder inside that wan sides address space www.example.com/home  to be forwarded to http://192.168.2.111:5000 or whatever port you want
[10:52] <fmerges> hello, have a problem with gnome3: System Settings > Network > Wired is not showing the list of network profiles. any idea?
[10:53] <fmerges> ups, ubuntu 14.04
[10:54] <sacarlson> fmerges: I never used gnome3 , is there no network-manager?
[10:55] <fmerges> sacarlson: don't see any, even for Gnome Classic it wouldn't show up i needed to tweak quite a bit for getting it there...
[10:55] <Greylocks>  /set aspell.check.default_dict "en"
[10:56] <FilthyMacNasty> install it in polish and try to operate it
[10:56] <sacarlson> fmerges: maybe just try Linux mint, it already works with mate
[10:57] <FilthyMacNasty> mate is wunderbar
[11:05] <rezam> S
[11:05] <rezam> oh !
[11:06] <FilthyMacNasty> ?
[11:09] <auscompgeek> sacarlson: gnome3 uses networkmanager, yeah
[11:11] <fmerges> auscompgeek: why i can't see anymore the list of Wired profiles I have, so that I can choose to which connect.. the nm-applet was very useful as it was..
[11:14] <GanjaR> Yo
[11:14] <GanjaR> Anyone here used log2timeline before?
[11:16] <rezam> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2222222222@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[11:17] <rezam> #include <iostream.h>
[11:17] <GanjaR> I'm trying to obtain a chronological timeline of events that occurred on a suspects computer. I believe the tool 'log2timeline' can do this, however how do I execute this on an entire disk image? ( I have mounted the .dd image to a mount point '/mnt/dmount' on the SIFT Workstation (Ubuntu based).
[11:18] <mgedmin> ubuntu 14.04 lts server, upgraded all the way up from 7.10, spams this on boot: systemd-udevd[1802]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/socket:/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event' 'socket:/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event': No such file
[11:18] <mgedmin> or directory
[11:18] <auscompgeek> fmerges: no idea, I don't use GNOME 3 any more. sorry.
[11:18] <mgedmin> any idea how to discover why and how to make it shut up?
[11:23] <White_Cat> I am trying to make ubuntu server 14.04 to work with Hyper V
[11:24] <FilthyMacNasty> White_Cat: got a hammer?
[11:24] <mgedmin> hmm, /etc/udev/rules.d/95-hal.rules
[11:26] <sennn> 1FV9sivy3kLD3GViDdxLmabKnaee23fNko
[11:26] <lmpker> what's that
[11:26] <mgedmin> looks like a password to me
[11:27] <BramD_> Hi, i just installed the latest ubuntu version. and i saw that in Dselect there was an option to manage virtual machines. That was just what i needed so i selected it... But now my question. What did it all install?
[11:29] <mgedmin> BramD_, dpkg -l will list all installed packages
[11:33] <sala-Lory> hey
[11:33] <FilthyMacNasty> howdy
[11:34] <sala-Lory> happy Halloween
[11:35] <FilthyMacNasty> bring on the zombies
[11:36] <sala> ciao Lory
[11:36] <sala-Lory> I'm among them (the zombies)
[11:37] <FilthyMacNasty> aim for the head
[11:38] <sala-Lory> I got my sword
[11:38] <FilthyMacNasty> well, you dont have to stop to reload
[11:40] <sala-Lory> kill the living dead
[11:40] <bazhang> !ot
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:40] <bazhang> sala-Lory, FilthyMacNasty elsewhere please
[11:41] <DJones> sala-Lory: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? Please see the channel topic for whats appropriate for discussion in this channel
[11:41] <sala-Lory> sorry, bye
[11:41] <ertyui> hello there
[11:42] <ertyui> i can't able to use snmpwalk
[11:42] <ertyui> what package need to install ?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> !info snmpwalk
[11:43] <ertyui> i  simply asking the package name from apt
[11:43] <ertyui> you can't say apt is out of toppic ?
[11:43] <FilthyMacNasty> neener neener
[11:44] <cfhowlett> ertyui, that 's not what it says.  what is your first languuage?  maybe better support ...
[11:44] <Ridley5> i like ubuntu
[11:44] <Ridley5> ubuntu make me safe & happy
[11:44] <sacarlson> ertyui: I already gave it to you sudo apt-get install snmp
[11:44] <DJones> !info snmp
[11:44] <Adephit> i have installed the virtualbox in windows 7, but... if i want to see the desktop in my server... the virtualbox has a very small window :-| Its possible to see in a windows window?
[11:45] <ertyui> don't care about the language i talk just only need to care about my question
[11:45] <cfhowlett> ertyui, read more.  type less.  <sacarlson> ertyui: I already gave it to you sudo apt-get install snmp
[11:45] <ertyui> well
[11:46] <ertyui> also installed snmp package on my server
[11:46] <ertyui> but i can't use snmpwalk command normal ?
[11:46] <ikonia> !info snmp
[11:46] <ikonia> ertyui: so if your community strings are setup correctly, you should be able to do a walk
[11:46] <ertyui> i m sorry working
[11:46] <ertyui> now
[11:47] <ertyui> thx
[11:47] <sacarlson> ertyui: try man snmpwalk
[11:47] <ertyui> ok perfec
[11:47] <ertyui> thx a lot
[11:48] <sennn> 1FV9sivy3kLD3GViDdxLmabKnaee23fNko
[11:48] <DJones> sennn: Please don't keep doing that
[11:49] <sennn> why
[11:49] <ertyui> what is this : 1FV9sivy3kLD3GViDdxLmabKnaee23fNko ?
[11:49] <DJones> Because this is Ubuntu support
[11:49] <sennn> ok
[11:49] <cfhowlett> sennn, knock it off
[11:49] <ertyui> is that a snmp query ?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> ertyui, it is not.  ignore
[11:50] <FilthyMacNasty> it's his chastity belt key RSA
[11:50] <sennn> fine
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | FilthyMacNasty,
[11:50] <Guest2110> hello ,can you help me?
[11:51] <Avic> hello. i installed virtualbox in windows to run linux programs. But the window of the virtualbox is so small... i have to use the linux programs in that :-|?
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !help | Guest2110
[11:51] <White_Cat> I am trying to make ubuntu server 14.04 to work with Hyper V, it doesnt seem to connect to any network. what do I need to do to configure it
[11:51] <White_Cat> it srrms to get an ipv6 address
[11:51] <White_Cat> and only see one eth0 card instead of 3 I configured
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Avic, #vbox                + guest additions
[11:54] <Guest2110> when i write in terminal lsblk -fm, my usbpentdrive have sdc1 and sdc2 and when i umount /dev/sdc1 && umunt /dev/sdc2 , then i put lsblk -fm and don't delete sdc1 and sdc2 , what is the problem?
[11:54] <jesse_> Are there any movie players for the command line? (Not for use within X)
[11:54] <sacarlson> White_Cat: what's Hyper V a kernel?
[11:54] <Ben64> Guest2110: lsblk doesn't show only mounted partitions
[11:55] <k1l_> jesse_: mplayer got some ascii mode iirc
[11:55] <White_Cat> ifconfig -a | grep eth seems to list all three devices
[11:55] <White_Cat> is there a way to see a more detailed output, say ips of each?
[11:56] <White_Cat> ah!
[11:56] <White_Cat> just remove grep
[11:56] <White_Cat> that was silly of me
[11:56] <jesse_> k1l_ thanks!
[11:56] <White_Cat> but they dont list ips
[11:56] <Ben64> White_Cat: it does
[11:56] <Guest2110> yes ben64 but how delete sdc1 and sdc2?
[11:57] <Ben64> Guest2110: what exactly do you mean by "delete"
[11:57] <Guest2110> i want mount in my usb only one , for example sdc1
[11:58] <White_Cat> Ben64 I only see a fake ipv6 ip
[11:58] <White_Cat> I think it failed to recieve a DHCP response
[11:58] <Ben64> White_Cat: quite possible, but ifconfig would show the ip address if it has one
[11:59] <beast> anybody there ?
[11:59] <White_Cat> two dont have any ip listed
[11:59] <White_Cat> the other doesnt have an ipv4 ip configured
[11:59] <jesse_> Does anyone know the console command that will show all mounted partitions?
[11:59] <White_Cat> since this is on a LAN ipv6 shouldnt be even listed
[11:59] <beast> hey white i m new ubuntu
[11:59] <Ben64> Guest2110: i'm not sure what you're wanting to do still
[11:59] <sacarlson> jesse_: mount
[11:59] <Ben64> White_Cat: everything gets ipv6 now
[12:00] <beast> how to create partion in ubuntu and also later i install windows means these i need to file
[12:00] <White_Cat> Ben64, that does not answer my question now does it?
[12:00] <beast> which format support in both os ?
[12:00] <Guest2110> in my usb i have two partitions i only want one and then format for add a livecd
[12:00] <Ben64> White_Cat: it explains why ipv6 is there
[12:01] <beast> reply
[12:01] <Ben64> Guest2110: if you want to actually modify partitions, you can do so in gparted, but you will lose data that is in any partition you delete
[12:02] <White_Cat> Ben64 it doesnt
[12:02] <beast> hey ben reply for my question
[12:02] <White_Cat> it is unable to connect to dhcp hence it shouldnt get any ip
[12:02] <Ben64> beast: that is not how this channel works, be patient
[12:02] <beast> BEN:  how to create partion in ubuntu and also later i install windows means these i need to file
[12:02] <Guest2110> i want delete a partition of usb is posible in terminal?
[12:02] <Avic> cdhowlett guest additions? do i have to install more, but in the site of virtualbox i cant see anything more to install. thanks
[12:02] <White_Cat> if its assigning a random IP why isnt it also assigning an ipv4?
[12:02] <Ben64> White_Cat: and i'm telling you, everything gets ipv6
[12:03] <White_Cat> my seat cussion probably has ipv6, thats not the issue
[12:03] <Avic> cfhowlett guest additions? do i have to install more, but in the site of virtualbox i cant see anything more to install. thanks
[12:03] <Ben64> Guest2110: as i've told you, you can do that with gparted
[12:03] <sacarlson> White_Cat: did you install the network version of ubuntu?
[12:04] <White_Cat> sacarlson it is ubuntu-server 14.04
[12:04] <White_Cat> I am unsure what isnt working
[12:05] <sacarlson> White_Cat: might take a look at /etc/network/interfaces then to verify that anyting is setup to try to get dhcp
[12:05] <GanjaR> Anyone here used TCHunt before?
[12:05] <Conte> it's possible to create a private channel? how i can do?
[12:05] <mgedmin> White_Cat, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces?  also, is network-manager installed?
[12:06] <Guest2110> give me error gparted when i want delete partition
[12:06] <White_Cat> mgedmin I dont think I can copy paste yet
[12:07] <White_Cat> since I don have network I dont havessh
[12:07] <White_Cat> hyper-v isnt copy paste friendly
[12:07] <mgedmin> yeah, that must be painful
[12:07] <White_Cat> I can paste a screenshot though
[12:07] <mgedmin> better than nothing :)
[12:08] <White_Cat> oh its fairly short
[12:08] <White_Cat> auto lo | iface lo inet loopback | aoto eth0 | iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:08] <Guest2110> how to create usblive from iso image?
[12:08] <White_Cat> rest is commented text starting with #
[12:08] <White_Cat> I imagine this is fairly standard
[12:09] <sacarlson> White_Cat: so your eth0 picks up an ipv4 address then?
[12:09] <White_Cat> no it does not
[12:09] <White_Cat> only an ipv6
[12:10] <White_Cat> I think
[12:10] <sacarlson> White_Cat: then I assume it's in your hyper V setup
[12:10] <White_Cat> I dont see anything that resembles an inet4 ip
[12:10] <andreas_> Hello! I have problems getting my dualboot to work, First I installed Ubuntu and Win8 on the same HDD; only win8 booted. then I installed Win8 and Ubuntu on two different SSDs, booted into UEFI ubuntu, only ubuntu booted. went into boot repair disk and ran it, did not repair. Now I booted and installed ubuntu without EFI; still just ubuntu booting
[12:10] <White_Cat> sacarlson entirely possible
[12:10] <andreas_> how can I get a GRUB screen when I boot up that shows me win8 as well?
[12:10] <White_Cat> but that doesnt make sense either :/
[12:13] <andreas_> any sugestions?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> andreas_, try sudo os-prober, then sudo update-grub
[12:13] <andreas_> ok thanks
[12:14] <darcuz> there are some italian?
[12:14] <chuck_bm> is there any schedule for 14.04 updates, like 14.04.2, with an updated kernel and stuff?
[12:14] <DJones> darcuz: Best channel would be #ubuntu-it if you need support in Italian language
[12:14] <mgedmin> darcuz, in #ubuntu-it maybe?
[12:15] <chuck_bm> io parlo un po di italiano
[12:15] <andreas_> BluesKaj: it only found linux images
[12:15] <chuck_bm> but yeah, it's better #ubuntu-it
[12:15] <darcuz> ok
[12:15] <White_Cat> sacarlson when I use hyper-v to connect to a virtual windows machine network works fine with same configuration
[12:15] <White_Cat> its quite puzzling
[12:16] <mgedmin> White_Cat, check /var/log/syslog for any messages about DHCP?
[12:16] <sacarlson> White_Cat: nat or bridged
[12:16] <White_Cat> its not bridged
[12:16] <White_Cat> its a virtual switch
[12:17] <White_Cat> switch under a router so a nat I suppose
[12:17] <logos_> my usb have 2gb but in gparted watch 15 gb what is the problem?
[12:17] <sacarlson> White_Cat: so it's bridged then.  oh but I thought you said you setup like 4 nics
[12:17] <White_Cat> it has 3 network cards
[12:18] <mgedmin> White_Cat, does /etc/network/interfaces enable all three?
[12:18] <sacarlson> White_Cat: all bridged to the same network?
[12:18] <White_Cat> they connect to three different networks
[12:18] <White_Cat> each with their own internet
[12:18] <sacarlson> mgedmin: no it only activates her eth0
[12:18] <White_Cat> its a bizzire system
[12:18] <White_Cat> interfaces makes no mention of other two devices
[12:18] <White_Cat> I can add them if you like
[12:19] <BluesKaj> andreas_ I'm not too well versed on UEFI booting due to the fact that I wiped the drive clean and reinstalled windows and ubuntu in legacy mode.
[12:19] <mgedmin> whoops, you pasted it, sorry, I missed that
[12:20] <sacarlson> White_Cat: pointless to add the others as even one fails.  in virtualbox we can enable or simulate it unpluged.  be sure you have all those set correct?
[12:20] <mgedmin> White_Cat, if you want to use those interfaces the yes, you'll have to add them to /etc/network/interfaces (OR install network-manager which autoconfigures everything, but is more commonly used on desktops, not servers)
[12:20] <sacarlson> White_Cat: you can try manualy set the ip of eth0 or others and see if you can ping it from windows
[12:22] <sacarlson> White_Cat: or try sudo ifdown ; ifup to get it to retry dchp
[12:22] <sacarlson> White_Cat: sudo ifdown eth0;  sudo ifup eth0
[12:23] <mgedmin> right, forgot to mention that: run sudo ifup -a after enabling the other cards in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:24] <pbx> if the software updater icon wiggles in the launcher, but clicking on it does nothing, and alt-tab switching to it does nothing... what's going on?
[12:24] <Avic> i have to install the ubuntu 5.10 in the virtual machine... with this outdated version remmina will be outdated to...
[12:31] <Ben64> Avic: you definitely do NOT need to install 5.10
[12:41] <MsKoshiro> hello
[12:42] <Quatroking> does something exist that allows me to login the moment I finish entering my password during login?
[12:42] <solsTiCe> pbx: It's a bug. I have that too. Clicking on the update manager icon does not bring up the window
[12:42] <Ben64> Quatroking: nope
[12:42] <Quatroking> something like windows 8's PIN login, where entering the last number will login automatically
[12:42] <MsKoshiro> i am new here ( linux/ irc )
[12:42] <Quatroking> bummer, would've been nice, even though it's only a keystroke difference
[12:43] <sacarlson> Quatroking: isn't that already what happens?
[12:43] <sacarlson> Quatroking: you can make it have no keystorkes if you want
[12:44] <Quatroking> sacarlson, no, I still have to press enter once I'm finished with typing in the password
[12:45] <sacarlson> Quatroking: why not no keystrokes then
[12:45] <Aviv_> remna server is installed nativelly in xubuntu?
[12:45] <Aviv_> remmina server is installed nativelly in xubuntu?
[12:45] <Quatroking> sacarlson, because I do want to keep a password on my laptop
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !info remmina
[12:45] <Quatroking> I use it at uni and leave it unattended now and then, while locked of course
[12:45] <Ben64> Aviv_: remmina is not a server, it is a client
[12:46] <Aviv_> :-|
[12:46] <sacarlson> Quatroking: well you can have passwords on your encrypted directories with stuf that needs protecting
[12:46] <thoonai> hey, gpg is not acception the --passphrase script? any idea why?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> Aviv_, and it's "optional"
[12:46] <Quatroking> sacarlson, Yeah but I'd rather not have people use my laptop at all
[12:46] <Ben64> Aviv_: you keep doing everything the hardest possible way. stop making it so difficult for yourself. use vnc, use a vnc client on windows, use vnc server on server. or even better, don't use GUI on a server!!!
[12:47] <cfhowlett> Ben64, servers don't have gui!
[12:47] <Ben64> cfhowlett: Aviv_'s does :|
[12:47] <thoonai> Ben64: fullack!
[12:47] <Ben64> cfhowlett: this has been going on for days now
[12:47] <thoonai> Aviv_: use ssh
[12:47] <Quatroking> sacarlson, honestly I'd really just like a login like win8's PIN login
[12:47] <sacarlson> Quatroking: ok take the last letter off your password and still push return so you will have one less keystroke
[12:48] <Quatroking> lmao
[12:48] <thoonai> Aviv_: its simple, more or less intuitive and works fine mostly
[12:48] <Aviv_> ok, so...  ssh?
[12:48] <thoonai> someone using gpg? and --symmetric? and --passphrase?
[12:48] <Ben64> Aviv_: yes, ssh is normally how one would interact with a server
[12:49] <thoonai> Aviv_: yeah. its nice, I'm even doing irc on ssh right now
[12:49] <sacarlson> Quatroking: or you could remap the last leter of your password to be active as caridge return and have an auto script at login that puts it back the way it was
[12:49] <Aviv_> but how i use ssh to see xubuntu?
[12:49] <Aviv_> desktop
[12:49] <Ben64> Aviv_: why do you need to see?
[12:49] <Ben64> its a server, they don't have desktops
[12:49] <michele> headless
[12:50] <thoonai> Aviv_: everything you can do with a Desktop, you can do via ssh, theres no need for graphical stuff
[12:50] <Aviv_> well it will be vnc then...  i need gui for some programs
[12:51] <Ben64> what programs
[12:51] <thoonai> Aviv_: and graphical stuff is clogging your internet connection
[12:51] <Aviv_> what makes me furious id that i managed to install freenx successfully but cant see the desktop
[12:52] <Aviv_> using the nomachine client
[12:52] <Ben64> Aviv_: what programs do you need to run with gui on a server?
[12:52] <Aviv_> must be somenhing in configuration
[12:53] <Aviv_> some i know uses cli, but i prefer gui. i have answered that same question so many times now here this week...
[12:53] <Ben64> you haven't answered it once yet
[12:54] <Aviv_> i know i wnt gui, so i think thats not relevant.
[12:54] <Aviv_> you are going to advice me to use cli
[12:54] <Aviv_> and i dont want to so...
[12:54] <thoonai> probably someone knows how to tame gpg into accepting --passphrase flag?
[12:54] <Ben64> Aviv_: well you've been trying the wrong way for days now, maybe try accepting some advice now?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> :@
[12:55] <thoonai> Aviv_: I'm online since 30min, what programs do you need?
[12:55] <Aviv_> the right way for you is cli in the server i know
[12:56] <thoonai> cfhowlett: gpg?
[12:56] <thoonai> by any chance?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> thoonai, no idea thus me = silent.  :)
[12:56] <thoonai> cfhowlett: meh :)
[12:56] <Ben64> Aviv_: would you just answer the question already
[12:56] <thoonai> Ben64: I guess hes tryin to install LOIC ^^
[12:58] <_go_unity> after upgrade to 14.10, cannot start unity or apps after starting system, help
[12:59] <thoonai> I think Aviv_ is a troll ^^
[13:00] <Aviv_> what programs do i need?
[13:00] <thoonai> ok Aviv_ is a troll
[13:00] <thoonai> :D
[13:01] <Aviv_> ...
[13:01] <thoonai> probably a linux irc troll (bot woven with a great configured eliza)
[13:01] <mikroman> I'm here for like half an hour and I'm exasperated with how stubborn he is. Poor Ben64 :D
[13:02] <yorwos> hi all :D
[13:02] <Ben64> mikroman: try ~48 hours
[13:02] <mikroman> hey yorwos
[13:02] <mgedmin> _go_unity, what happens?
[13:02] <mikroman> Ben64: My condolences...
[13:03] <mgedmin> _go_unity, do you get a login screen?  can you log in?
[13:03] <_go_unity> logon & enter password but the icons do not appear.  i do see the background and pointer
[13:03] <yorwos> I'm getting some weird things on my software updater . 2files new ,low latency linux headers+kernel , and then these 2 : linux kernel image for version 3.13 .
[13:03] <yorwos> oops
[13:03] <_go_unity> i can start the All Settings window but not much else.
[13:04] <yorwos> ignore that ill type it full
[13:04] <cfhowlett> yorwos, paste it
[13:04] <lizzie_> i'm having sound issues, and am following this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:04] <lizzie_> the instructions say ALSA library version and utilities version are exactly the same version number, but they are not..
[13:04] <_go_unity> there were messages that errors occurred but i do not see that on this system start now
[13:04] <yorwos> im using the gui second :D
[13:05] <_go_unity> (this chat session is running on a different pc)
[13:05] <lizzie_> theinstructions show that driver/library/utilities version should all match, but each oone is different
[13:05] <Marc-Julian> I am still using XChat in ubuntu 14.10
[13:06] <lizzie_> AND the driver version is k3.13.0-39-generic, not even CLOSE to the 1.0.25 and 1.0.27.2 for the others
[13:06] <lizzie_> what is the significance of k3.13.0-39-generic vs 1.0.25?
[13:07] <Ben64> lizzie_: all three are different? thats not good
[13:07] <_go_unity> how can i access the older error logs?
[13:08] <Ben64> lizzie_: this is what i got -- Driver version:     k3.13.0-37-generic Library version:    1.0.27.2 Utilities version:  1.0.27.2
[13:08] <yorwos> I'm getting some weird things on my software updater . 2 files : "linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP"  + "lowlatency linux kernel image". same for headers 2files.  is this normal ? i dont understand what the 1st of these files do , im only used to getting 2nd kind of files
[13:08] <lizzie_> ben, ok, i was concerned that the driver version was SO different... at least we've narrowed down my issue now..
[13:09] <Ben64> lizzie_: do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:10] <thoonai> cfhowlett: I found my problems solution: --passphrase works only if --batch is flagged
[13:10] <thoonai> cfhowlett: ;)
[13:10] <cfhowlett> thoonai, that is some fine detective work, Lou!  Good job.
[13:10] <lizzie_> Ben64, 0 upgraded/installed/removed
[13:11] <yorwos> any ideas ? my cpu is q9550
[13:11] <Ben64> lizzie_: no errors?
[13:11] <thoonai> cfhowlett: meh -.- I'm to stupid to read the manpage properly
[13:13] <lizzie_> Ben64:  The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[13:13] <lizzie_>   libtcl8.5 tcl8.5
[13:13] <lizzie_> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[13:13] <lizzie_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:13] <thoonai> so im off, bye
[13:13] <thoonai> :)
[13:17] <_go_unity> I had a proprietary graphics driver installed before the upgrade to 14.10.  i could try to reinstall the ait/amd graphics driver?
[13:18] <lizzie_> :(
[13:18] <mgedmin> _go_unity, that doesn't necessarily sound like a driver error...
[13:19] <mgedmin> _go_unity, can you launch a terminal (ctrl-alt-t is the default shortcut, I believe)?
[13:19] <mgedmin> _go_unity, if not, can you log in on a text console (ctrl+alt+f1) and make sure all the unity packages are installed ('sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' will install the missing ones, if any)?
[13:20] <_go_unity> ctl-alt-t does not start a new window
[13:20] <k1l_> _go_unity: was it the amd site driver?
[13:21] <_go_unity> i started a text console
[13:21] <_go_unity> what now for text console?
[13:21] <mgedmin> _go_unity, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <_go_unity> btw i started a backup of home dir
[13:22] <lizzie_> !!ALSA Version
[13:22] <lizzie_> !!------------
[13:22] <lizzie_> Driver version:     k3.13.0-39-generic
[13:22] <lizzie_> Library version:    1.0.25
[13:22] <lizzie_> Utilities version:  1.0.27.2
[13:22] <apt-get> anyone knows how I can easily replace scrot's "--exec" function with maim?
[13:22] <apt-get>  file=$(scrot (date +%Y-%m-%d)_scrot.png -e 'echo -n $f')
[13:22] <lizzie_> how do i get my library to match my utilities?
[13:22] <apt-get> this, for example
[13:24] <JuJuBee_> How do I give a user access to configure network settings for a wifi adapter for example?
[13:24] <_go_unity> apt-get install cannot run, does not have lock.... how do i get back to the original window, so i can exit the update window?
[13:24] <mgedmin> _go_unity, ctrl-alt-f7
[13:25] <_go_unity> thx
[13:25] <mgedmin> _go_unity, now tell me how you're able to launch programs in the gui when unity is broken?
[13:27] <_go_unity> from change desktop and then go to all settings
[13:27] <_go_unity> (back door?)
[13:28] <_go_unity> the install ubuntu-desktop returned that the software is already at newest version...
[13:28] <_go_unity> how to trigger reinstall?
[13:28] <mgedmin> _go_unity, ok, your problem is an incorrect compiz configuration
[13:29] <mgedmin> at one point 'unity --reset' was the way to fix that; now it's deprecated and no longer supported and I don't know what replaced it
[13:29] <mgedmin> anybody here uses unity?  I like gnome-shell myself
[13:29] <mgedmin> _go_unity, one way to fix things is to install the compizconfig-settings-manager package, launch ccsm in the GUI somehow, find the Unity plugin and make sure it's enabled
[13:29] <k1l_> _go_unity: again the question: did you install the amd driver form the amd site?
[13:29]  * mgedmin had to help do this on a coworker's machine the other day
[13:30] <mgedmin> _go_unity, your problem is not related to video drivers
[13:30] <k1l_> mgedmin: dont be too fast on resetting stuff if its a drivers issue at all
[13:30] <mgedmin> k1l_, it's not
[13:30] <k1l_> mgedmin: it is most times.
[13:30] <k1l_> mgedmin: did you ever start a unity wihtout proper 3d support? it looks exactly like that
[13:31] <mgedmin> okay, perhaps a bug in the userspace part of the video driver caused a compiz crash and that made compiz automatically disable the unity plugin
[13:31] <_go_unity> google returns this from ubuntuhandbook ...
[13:31] <k1l_> mgedmin: are you sure about that or are you guessing?
[13:31] <_go_unity> After that, run the below command to restart Unity:
[13:31] <_go_unity> setsid unity
[13:32] <mgedmin> k1l_, guessing
[13:32] <k1l_> mgedmin: because there is a known issue with the 3rd party fglrx installs and upgrades causing a missing 3d support
[13:32] <_go_unity> to reset unity/compiz ...
[13:32] <_go_unity> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[13:32] <_go_unity> setsid unity
[13:33] <k1l_> but since _go_unity doesnt answer my questions to find the real cause of the issue you can go and let him reset everything that doesnt help
[13:33] <mgedmin> k1l_, I'm curious about the mechanism for this
[13:33] <_go_unity> k1l_, not pls repeat your q
[13:34] <maxvi> how can I setting VPN (PPTP) connection in ubuntu 14.10?
[13:34] <_go_unity> i believe that i installed the amd driver from the additional drivers tab
[13:35] <maxvi> Gateway - is it domain ?
[13:35] <crankharder> does logrotate log its activities somewhere normally? not seeing anything in syslog or some "/var/log/logrotate*" file
[13:37] <crankharder> trying to figure out why I have a 26G log file when logrotate.conf says it should be capped at 500M
[13:41] <imbezol> hey guys. i find that every time i close the lid to my laptop and then come back to it the next morning the wifi doesn't work
[13:41] <imbezol> i have to hardware disable the wifi then re-enable to get it worknig
[13:41] <_go_unity> thnks for suggestions ... i will install the amd graphics driver, and, if needed, reinstall ubuntu-desktop.
[13:41] <mgedmin> crankharder, if there's a logfile.1 you can look at its timestamp
[13:42] <imbezol> additionally the AP i have set to autoconnect never does.. i have to click connect on it
[13:42] <crankharder> mgedmin: there is, that doesn't help
[13:42] <mgedmin> crankharder, you can run logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.d/yourconfigfile and see what it thinks it should do
[13:42] <imbezol> maybe it doesn't autoconnect after you've had it disabled.. i dunno.. but i shouldn't have to hardware disable and re-enable to get it working
[13:44] <ShishKabab> My computer has been swapping a lot the last couple of weeks even though I haven't been using it differently than normal. 800M is in swap and it says my memory is full. I have to wait 5 seconds for doing anything. But when I look at the processes it doesn't look like everything added up equals the total it says it's using. Could there be something else using up my memory?
[13:45] <sacarlson> imbezol: I think there is an option the shuts down the system with lid close instead of puting it in standby or hybernate.  as those modes rarely work with wifi through transition
[13:45] <CodeGosu> i often need to block/unblock incoming  connections to few ports, what command line command can block/unblock incoming connections to port A,B,C?
[13:45] <imbezol> sacarlson: hmm.. whereabouts would i find that?
[13:45] <sacarlson> imbezol: preferences I think
[13:47] <imbezol> sacarlson: sorry to be daft, but preferences within which program?
[13:47] <imbezol> sacarlson: i don't see anything in network manager
[13:47] <imbezol> sacarlson: and don't see anything like that in system settings
[13:47] <pgar23> CodeGosu: You can use iiptables command to accomplish that
[13:47] <pgar23> CodeGosu: like this " iptables -I OUTPUT -s 66.134.74.100 -j ACCEPT ; iptables -I INPUT -s 66.134.74.100 -j ACCEPT "
[13:47] <sacarlson> imbezol: on mine it's preferences>power management
[13:48] <Adephit> well i give up... its possible to install vnc4server with xubuntu?
[13:48] <Avic> well i give up... its possible to install vnc4server with xubuntu?
[13:49] <imbezol> sacarlson: oh you mean completely shut down the system, not the wifi
[13:49] <mgedmin> Avic, yes: sudo apt-get install vnc4server
[13:49] <Avic> and installing xubuntu?
[13:49] <imbezol> sacarlson: hmm.. hoping not to have to do that because i have a lot of stuff open (including vmware and a host of windows apps for work inside it) at all times
[13:50] <Yutht> someone here is an expert of cinema 4d ?
[13:50] <moatazY> hello there i wonder if there any bug about skype in 14.04 lts !? i instaled it and is not working right :(
[13:50] <Avic> hoe do i instll xubuntu in the ubuntu 14.04 trusty?
[13:52] <k1l_> Avic: install xubuntu-desktop package
[13:52] <Avic> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[13:53] <k1l_> Avic: yes, that will install the whole xubuntu desktop experience.
[13:53] <Avic> ok, is much lighter than kubuntu, right?
[13:54] <feurd> Hello everyone! Has someone been able to make the global auto-type feature work with keepass2 under Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:55] <sacarlson> imbezol: I also note I don't see the power down with lid close in my power management so I don't know were I saw it,  and I don't use it as I don't have a laptop
[13:55] <k1l_> Avic: its is some lighter. but if you want really more lightweight go for Lubuntu
[13:56] <Avic> hmmm
[13:57] <Avic> so lubuntu + vnc4server?
[13:58] <k1l_> Avic: i dont know what you want to do at all there
[13:59] <nusr> how can i search for a file with a particular extension in a different partition
[14:02] <nusr> locate .bbb find . -type f -name "*.bbb" would work, but how can i specify a different partition?
[14:02] <imbezol> sacarlson: i think i figured it out actually..  http://askubuntu.com/questions/348858/wifi-doesnt-work-after-hibernate-but-does-work-after-suspend
[14:02] <mgedmin> nusr, find /mountpoint -type f ...
[14:03] <imbezol> sacarlson: applied that fix and it seems to work... the wifi works without doing anything now. i do still have to click connect on the ap i was on before but at least i don't have to mess with the hardware switch to get the wifi device to work
[14:03] <sacarlson> imbezol: ya there ya go,  I think you can change that in power managment
[14:04] <nusr> mgedmin: mountpoint is the name of the partition right? what if it is "875 GB Volume"
[14:04] <sacarlson> imbezol: maybe you didn't set your access point to connect as default
[14:04] <robcsi> hi. does anyone know of free software that can split a screen into multiple parts for presentation purposes? I'm thinking of scenarios where I show different picturs, programs or any data in each part of the screen and it can go fullscreen
[14:05] <imbezol> sacarlson: i did.. it just doesn't respect the setting
[14:05] <mgedmin> nusr, it's the directory where that partition is mounted; probably /media/user/"875 GB Volume"
[14:05] <mgedmin> nusr, run 'df' to see
[14:06] <sacarlson> robcsi: standard plug and play you can plug in many monitors if you have multi video cards
[14:06] <robcsi> sacarlson: yes, I know that, but unfortunately I have only one.
[14:06] <sacarlson> robcsi: I have two screens now and can drag an app from one screen to another
[14:07] <robcsi> sacarlson: I know that, too. I have to solve this with one video card, one monitor
[14:07] <sacarlson> robcsi: well how did you plan to drive many monitors with only one?
[14:08] <nusr> mgedmin: ok 875gb volume is in /dev/sd1 so i type find /dev/sda1 -type f and what about the file extension type?
[14:08] <mgedmin> nusr, nope; /dev/sda1 is the partition, not the mountpoint.  find wants the mountpoint
[14:09] <nusr> mgedmin: ok got it
[14:09] <imbezol> robcsi: i haven't heard of an app that can do that but it would be interesting
[14:09] <robcsi> sacarlson: I'm looking for something similar to MaxTo, AVManager
[14:09] <sacarlson> robcsi: well you can run more than one picture view at a time and scale them to any size on one screen and go full screen on any one of them
[14:09] <imbezol> robcsi: you could do it for text with "screen" app, but i don't think that's what you're looking for
[14:10] <robcsi> imbezol: you are right, but I'm not looking for that
[14:10] <BackBoxScrub> test
[14:10] <imbezol> fail
[14:10] <mgedmin> robcsi, window tiling?  I think <Super>Left/Right do that by default on Unity
[14:10] <mgedmin> robcsi, some hardcore people use tiling window managers like xmonad or awesome; I've never tried any
[14:11] <sacarlson> robcsi: oh or inkskape  maybe where you can drag images rotate them resize them as many images as you want
[14:11] <somsip> *awesomewm
[14:11] <nusr> mgedmin: ok i've just been blinded by flies flying down my terminal... :)   how do i specify the extension i am looking for /media/qq/3AA449A6A449658B -type f  [what goes here? just .txt?]
[14:11] <imbezol> robcsi: actually.. you could just have multiple desktops
[14:11] <mgedmin> nusr, add -name '*.txt' to the end of the command
[14:11] <robcsi> mgedmin: yes, I know. I'm trying to setup a monitor on a wall in an office and have stuff appear on it, but without having window decorations visible
[14:12] <alreadytriedgoog> hey i need help installing chrome, i went to google.com/chrome  selected the right package for install, first tried with the open with software center option, didnt work, then i dl'd it and tried again and i keep getting auth errors. software center doesnt want me to have chrome for some reason?
[14:12] <somsip> robcsi: tiling WMs do allow removal of window decoration. Do a search for some screenshots of dwm, xmonad, awesomewm, etc
[14:12] <mgedmin> robcsi, yeah, I'm pretty sure xmonad can do that... but I can't help you with it
[14:13] <robcsi> somsip: mgedmin: yes, I'm aware of them. there's also i3
[14:13] <alreadytriedgoog> and i wanna get the version right from google not a ppa cause on my other machine i did a cli install for chrome and it doesnt work with netflix
[14:14] <nusr> mgedmin: it works...but it's coming out like a sputtering tap and not a full gusher like -type f
[14:14] <nusr> mgedmin: thank you
[14:14] <mgedmin> nusr, yeah, disks are slow
[14:14] <somsip> robcsi: a few others too - wiki has a full list. But if it's for a display, probably go with the one that seems easiest
[14:14] <alreadytriedgoog> but version 37 of chrome works with netflix without having to use wine or anything else, so how do i get chrome installed without errors please?
[14:14] <robcsi> somsip: which wiki are you referring to?
[14:15] <somsip> robcsi: wikipedia - habit to abbreviate to wiki
[14:15] <robcsi> somsip: oh, ok :)
[14:15] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, last time I tried the .deb downloaded from google, it worked for me (opened with software center, clicled install, entered my password)
[14:15] <somsip> robcsi: eg: google://wiki tiling window managers
[14:16] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, what sort of auth errors are you getting?
[14:16] <darthpuppy> I'm installing trove on an ubuntu 14.04 and I am getting python-trove : Depends: python-sqlalchemy (< 0.9) but 0.9.7-1~cloud0 is to be installed when I try to install it.
[14:16] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, right but for some reason the password prompt isn't showing up in software center and it wont let chrome install
[14:16] <robcsi> somsip: I've been through many google results, but it's not a tiling window manager I'm looking for exactly
[14:16] <Avic> can i install ubuntu 14.04 -> lxde + vnc ? Its this possiible?
[14:17] <alreadytriedgoog> yeah my password prompt wont show. i have a feeling that's why the installer gets auth errors
[14:17] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, authorization is cached for some time (15 minutes?), it won't just keep asking again if you authenticate right once
[14:17] <somsip> robcsi: ok - I just saw the bit about awesomewm and xmonad and jumped in. I'll back away gracefully :)
[14:17] <darthpuppy> This in on an openstack controller node if that matters
[14:17] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, what's the error that software center gives you?  copy/paste or screenshot to imgur.com would be best
[14:17] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, yeah but i just woke up, started my machine and went for chrome, i havent put my password in at all yet today
[14:17] <robcsi> somsip: your help is much appreciated, as is everybody else's. thanks for the suggestions
[14:17] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin,  ok 1 sec
[14:18] <moatazY> hello there i wonder if i can use skype through pidgin  :)
[14:18] <alreadytriedgoog> this is what it says http://pastebin.com/RZUtQ1Yd
[14:19] <sacarlson> moatazY: it used to work before so I think it still does
[14:20] <moatazY> sacarlson: hello my Saviour u helped me before , i tried but got no luck wz it , and beside skype not working on my 14.04
[14:21] <alreadytriedgoog> then the second message just says im not allowed to perform this action
[14:21] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, whoa, something is rather broken on your system!  "authentication service is not available"
[14:21] <sacarlson> moatazY: I'm running skype on 14.04 it just needs some touchs on pulse audio
[14:21] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, yeah thats my point, darn linux isnt working again
[14:22] <moatazY> sacarlson: umm , mine didt launch the app
[14:22] <sacarlson> moatazY: well the first thing you do is run it in a term and see what the error is then google it
[14:22] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/785117
[14:22] <moatazY> sacarlson:
[14:22] <sacarlson> moatazY: it was the first google that fixed it
[14:23] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, hm, what ubuntu version do you have?  what desktop environment do you use?
[14:23] <moatazY> sacarlson: but i didnt how to run an app from terminal
[14:23] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, idk what the problem could be, i dont do much on my computer except watch hulu and play on steam, why cant linux be stable and reliable its about 15 years old isnt it?
[14:23] <alreadytriedgoog> i use xubuntu 14.04
[14:23] <sacarlson> moatazY: well it's my beer time chat yall later
[14:23] <mgedmin> hmmm
[14:24] <moatazY> sacarlson: enjoy iy :
[14:24] <moatazY> iy*
[14:24] <moatazY> it *
[14:24] <raviepic3> help needed - i mistakenly uninstalled python 2.7 in the aim of installing python 3
[14:24] <raviepic3> now i have the desktop manager removed !
[14:24] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, http://askubuntu.com/questions/464077/authentication-error-when-trying-to-install-or-uninstall-using-ubuntu-software-c has some troubleshooting suggestions
[14:25] <raviepic3> finding it very difficult to proceed
[14:25] <raviepic3> i googled and people told me to download the python manually and install and then install the gnome-desktop
[14:25] <imbezol> raviepic3: does apt-get not work anymore?
[14:25] <alreadytriedgoog> although linux has never worked right on my machine, it doesnt boot right, the grub never shows on the first boot, i have to reboot and hold shift, then i have to edit the start up option and add nomodeset. its just such a headache and all i want is my netflix
[14:25] <raviepic3> i installed the python 2.7 manually and then when i try to install gnome-desktop all i get is 404 for the urls
[14:26] <edwinH> anyone has any success installing 14.04 server on a hp proliant ml110? installer does recognize raid configuration but after enabling/activating it no hard drives can be selected..
[14:26] <mgedmin> raviepic3, run sudo apt-get update
[14:26] <FilthyMacNasty> auso apt-get install gnome-session-flashback
[14:27] <raviepic3> imbezol: thanks for replying - i am not sure whether the error produced by apt-get install gnome-desktop or apt-get update --fix missing is due tooutdated source file or this python uninstall !
[14:27] <mgedmin> raviepic3, this sometimes happens when new updates are pushed, the mirrors delete old ones, and your apt tries to fetch the deleted versions because it doesn't realize newer ones are available
[14:27] <raviepic3> mgedmin: ^
[14:27] <mgedmin> raviepic3, lack of python shouldn't break apt
[14:27] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, they suggest something isnt installed, however i doubt i'd be able to install steam and games if i was missing software, seeing as how this pc worked before this morning either linux is really unstable and its losing my files or my 6 month old hard drive is failing and thats really unlikely.
[14:27] <raviepic3> mgedmin: have run apt-get update and apt-get update --fix-missing but all i get was 404 for several urls
[14:27] <mgedmin> raviepic3, also you probably want to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (if you use Ubuntu and not one of the other flavours)
[14:28] <firebb> how do i upgrade my 14.04 to 14.10?
[14:28] <izolate> Hey, does ~/.ssh/authorized_keys need to be a file, or can it be a folder consisting of keys inside it (for the sake of organization)?
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> hello
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> anyone can help me please
[14:28] <mgedmin> raviepic3, 404 errors from 'apt-get update'?  these mean some of the repositories you've enabled are bad (or don't have packages for your ubuntu version); pastebin the errors if you wish
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> the backlight of my laptop has gone
[14:28] <raviepic3> FilthyMacNasty: have tried gnome-desktop and got all 404 for urls will try the flashback now
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> i cant do sudo setpci
[14:28] <ElGatoSaez> it doesnt work
[14:28] <mgedmin> raviepic3, 404 errors from 'apt-get update' are mostly harmless, do try apt-get install
[14:29] <mgedmin> raviepic3, apt-get install --fix-missing doesn't do what you think it does; you need to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:29] <raviepic3> mgedmin: when i remove python, i think my xterminal is also gone !.. how do i access the terminal to copy and paste the errors ?
[14:29] <raviepic3> right now i am running the command on CLI mode with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then switching back to GUI with F7
[14:30] <imbezol> raviepic3: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:30] <nusr> mgedmin: now that i have found the file on the partition i want to move it to my linux partition. i tried this but the error message says no file.      cp /media/qq/3AA449A6A449658B/Documents and Settings/user/My Documents/data/s/LE/New Folder/<nameofthefile.txt /home/qq/Documents/<nameofthefile.txt>  the error message says <nameofthefile> is not a valid directory...the file name was in a microsoft partition and has spaces in the name.
[14:30] <ElGatoSaez> anyone can help me please
[14:31] <raviepic3> imbezol: when i try to do that - i get 404 for all lines saying failed to fetch !
[14:31] <raviepic3> is that a cause of broekn source list ? if yes can i rebuild it ?
[14:32] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, further testing reveals its not a chrome issue, i cant install anything with the software center. is there a way i an remove the pesky need for auth to begin with? It's annoying just like windows user action center notifing you of every click you make!
[14:32] <ElGatoSaez> help me please
[14:33] <ElGatoSaez> anyone
[14:33] <imbezol> raviepic3: but your networking is working fine otherwise?
[14:34] <GawdDamnedNeeded> hi?
[14:34] <ElGatoSaez> hi
[14:34] <alreadytriedgoog> hello
[14:34] <raviepic3> imbezol: when the login screen appears - there it seems that the top bar is available.. so i connect my datacard using that in the login screen and then select the user to login..
[14:34] <ses1984> can someone point me in the right direction for this: what do i need to do so that when a user logs in, they get NFS shares mounted with their credentials?
[14:35] <raviepic3> because that top bar is not available after loging inside the gnome desktop imbezol
[14:35] <mgedmin> raviepic3, what's your ubuntu version?
[14:35] <raviepic3> mgedmin: 12.04
[14:36] <mgedmin> nusr, you need to quote the spaces
[14:36] <ElGatoSaez> can someone help me please: when i turn on my laptop the screen goes black since the boot logo and i cant see nothing, i try ctrl + alt + t then sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00 but it doesnt works
[14:36] <alreadytriedgoog> i never should have left windows XP, does anyone know how to fix the software center?
[14:37] <ElGatoSaez> whats happening alreadytriedgoog
[14:37] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, you can install software using a terminal (sudo apt-get install packagename) even if software-center is broken
[14:37] <alreadytriedgoog> the "authentication service is not available"
[14:37] <nusr> mgedmin: terminal says target is not a valid directory
[14:37] <raviepic3> mgedmin: sorry its 13.04
[14:38] <mgedmin> raviepic3, that's your problem: 13.04 is no longer supported
[14:38] <nusr> mgedmin: just trying to copy it to /home/qq/Documents/
[14:38] <alreadytriedgoog> but does the cli chrome install command install the latest version?
[14:38] <raviepic3> mgedmin: so what do i do now ?
[14:38] <ElGatoSaez> i will call a technical support
[14:38] <raviepic3> mgedmin: no way to recover from this ?
[14:38] <ElGatoSaez> no one helps here
[14:39] <mgedmin> raviepic3, there's a special upgrade procedure where you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and point to the old-releases mirror
[14:39] <imbezol> mgedmin: i'm thinking his best bet is to download 14.04 and do a release upgrade from command line using the disk
[14:39] <alreadytriedgoog> ElGatoSaez, Linux has a tech support help line?? whats the number?
[14:39] <imbezol> mgedmin: probably fixable at the current level.. but would require some hacking
[14:39] <mgedmin> raviepic3, http://askubuntu.com/a/91821/136
[14:39]  * raviepic3 googles how to upgrade source list to point to old releases
[14:40] <mgedmin> raviepic3, it's fixable easily, just follow that guide
[14:40] <NotNeededAnymore> what, linux has a support line?
[14:40] <raviepic3> mgedmin: thanks for the link  - will read it now
[14:40] <k1l_> !eol | raviepic3
[14:40] <alreadytriedgoog> bout time, may i have the number?
[14:40] <imbezol> mgedmin: that might work too.. networking is probably ok.. he just can't find the right location for the files
[14:40] <mgedmin> nusr, why don't you use Nautilus or Midnight Commander or something?
[14:40] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: nope ubuntu doesnt have a tech support help line
[14:40] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: i will pay for one
[14:41] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: private tech support
[14:41] <NotNeededAnymore> oh. i guess he meant FAQ
[14:41] <nusr> mgemin: i could use the GUI and just move it, but i'm being difficult...want to move it with terminal
[14:41] <ElGatoSaez> alreadytriedgoog: not from cannonical
[14:41] <alreadytriedgoog> ElGatoSaez, darn, for a os like linux they really need a help line. someone should start a charity for linux
[14:41] <NotNeededAnymore> ^^
[14:41] <raviepic3> mgedmin: terminal also gets removed if python is uninstalled ?
[14:42] <imbezol> nusr: you can edit your find line..   find /mountpath -name '*.XXX' -exec mv -v {} /destination \;
[14:42] <raviepic3> k1l_: thank you
[14:42] <nusr> wonder if linux support is friendly...i called microsoft support recently about using legit XP cd key and the guy just paused..and hung up on me
[14:42] <alreadytriedgoog> imma stay restarting the computer, that works for windows 98, maybe it'll work here too.
[14:42] <alreadytriedgoog> try*
[14:43] <NotNeededAnymore> nusr: xp no longer has support
[14:43] <mgedmin> raviepic3, shouldn't be
[14:43] <alreadytriedgoog> nusr, if it wasn't for how terrible microsoft is, i wouldnt be trying so hard to learn linux lol
[14:43] <NotNeededAnymore> yea i just got linux
[14:43] <ElGatoSaez> i restared the computer doesnt work
[14:43] <alreadytriedgoog> brb
[14:43] <raviepic3> mgedmin: is there a way to invoke terminal so that i can paste these commands there without having to go to CLI mode ?
[14:44] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, have you checked if the policykit-1-gnome package is installed on your system?
[14:44] <nusr> yea i dumped windows after windows8...and thank you for ubuntu!!
[14:44] <mgedmin> raviepic3, ctrl-alt-t?  (or is it super-t?)
[14:44] <NotNeededAnymore> hopefully windows 10 will be fine
[14:44] <DX7> raviepic3 can't you just install terminator?
[14:44] <ElGatoSaez> its ctrl alt t
[14:44] <NotNeededAnymore> i tried the preview, it was really windows 8 esque
[14:44] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, well no, cause if it isnt installed now, that means it wasnt installed yesterday, and yesterday the computer was fine.
[14:44] <alreadytriedgoog> brb
[14:45] <mgedmin> nusr, well, cp "/media/.../filename.txt" ~/Documents/ should work if you have a ~/Documents directory
[14:45] <raviepic3> mgedmin: the shortcut aint working :(
[14:45] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, good point!  that might mean it died for some reason; try starting it up
[14:45] <raviepic3> DX7: terminator ? i have an unsupported release
[14:45] <mgedmin> raviepic3, ctrl-alt-f1 is always a terminal of last resort
[14:45] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, is there a simple command to turn it back on? its a pain to restart this pc
[14:45] <pdo_fn14> How to enabling journalctl in Utopic?.
[14:46] <mgedmin> raviepic3, open gedit or something, paste the commands you want to run from the web page, save as myscript.sh, then run 'sh myscript.sh' in the terminal
[14:46] <mgedmin> raviepic3, otherwise it's hard to copy and paste between a browser and the linux console
[14:46] <nusr> mgedmin: not if you run out of memory..when that happens even alt control f1 does not work for me...is there anything that can be done when that happens? for example..if a vm is running and i open just that last browser tab..my system freezes
[14:46] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, that was command #2 in the askubuntu answer I linked
[14:47] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, aww i see, thanks
[14:47] <raviepic3> mgedmin: you are awesome :) will try that one
[14:47] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, failed
[14:48] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, what's the error?
[14:48] <somsip> mgedmin: highlight with mouse to copy, middle click to paste
[14:48] <mgedmin> somsip, on /dev/tty1?  good luck :)
[14:48] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, a big one http://pastebin.com/z9FJBZCa
[14:48] <mgedmin> somsip, (well, there's sudo apt-get install gpm, but it won't share your clipboard with your X session)
[14:48] <somsip> mgedmin: ah - didn't see it was a comole. I do now. My bad
[14:48] <somsip> *console
[14:49] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, isn't that fun!  *sigh*
[14:49] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, starting to miss windows cause it just works
[14:50] <mgedmin> alreadytriedgoog, yeah, maybe it's worth to try restarting...
[14:50] <alreadytriedgoog> mgedmin, alrighty brb lol
[14:50] <mgedmin> izolate, I like your question!  unfortunately the answer appears to be "no": https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481251
[14:52] <mgedmin> izolate, also https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172#c10
[14:53] <mgedmin> ok, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1-gnome/+bug/1000679 seems to indicate alreadytriedgoog's 2nd error is not important
[14:53] <nightwolf_> hello
[14:53] <rishabh> Could not apply changes!
[14:53] <rishabh> Fix broken packages first.
[14:53] <rishabh> why this problem is occuring in synaptic manager
[14:54] <rishabh>  Could not apply changes!
[14:54] <rishabh>  Fix broken packages first.
[14:54] <alreadytried> hahaha, restarted computer, it asked for a password. all is well
[14:54] <alreadytried> now onward to netflix!
[14:54] <mgedmin> rishabh, a previous installation failed and now your system is in an inconsistent state
[14:55] <mgedmin> rishabh, in a terminal you'd fix this by running sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get install -f
[14:55] <mgedmin> rishabh, I don't know if there's a more user-friendly gui way to fix this :/
[14:56] <Sz> #ubuntu-on-air
[14:57] <rishabh> mgedmin, after entering this i am getting
[14:57] <rishabh> sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get install -f
[14:57] <alreadytried> the one thing linux has over windows that i love, wobbly windows :D
[14:57] <rishabh> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another proces
[14:57] <nightwolf_> who has tryed slax?
[14:57] <mgedmin> rishabh, close synaptic
[14:58] <raviepic3> mgedmin: when i do dist-upgrade it says 0 of 0 and when i do apt-get update, it says GPG error: following signatures are invalid NODATA1 and NODATA2
[14:58] <mgedmin> rishabh, it locks the dpkg database while it's running for some reason (instead of just locking it while installing stuff)
[14:58] <mgedmin> rishabh, what about do-release-upgrade?
[14:58] <raviepic3> mgedmin: sorry forgot to include that i folloed the command given in the link and replaced the sources with archives repo sourrce
[14:59] <mgedmin> raviepic3, I have to go now, sorry!
[14:59] <raviepic3> mgedmin: thanks for your time and good day
[14:59] <alreadytried> mgedmin, omg i have chrome and netflix now! i dont have to watch it on my stupid phone anymore! mgedmin i love you bro!!!
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> okay now anyone can help me
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> please
[15:00] <sazid> Assalamualaikum and hello
[15:00] <sazid> What type of help?
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> my screen goes no backlight
[15:00] <ElGatoSaez> setpci doesnt work
[15:04] <yorwos> ok i dont know if any1 responded scroll max up i canm see but its gone
[15:04] <yorwos> I'm getting some weird things on my software updater . 2 files : "linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP"  + "lowlatency linux kernel image". same for headers 2files.  is this normal ? i dont understand what the 1st of these files do , im only used to getting 2nd kind of files
[15:07] <CodeGosu> recomend some simple ubuntu note app that appear immedietly on hotkey key press please?
[15:07] <ElGatoSaez> you can set up that with ubuntu tweak
[15:07] <__unik> hello is there anyone using Enlightenment
[15:09] <nightwolf_> hi yorwos
[15:09] <yorwos> hi
[15:09] <somebody> Hey. I am running into a problem starting an alternate live disc from with 12.04.5 on board. It says "Failed to load COM32 file gfxboot.c32", which I used to get around by typing in 'live', but since it is an alternative installer, this doesn't work. Any ideas?
[15:10] <nightwolf_> had you tryed slax?
[15:10] <yorwos> me? what is that ?
[15:11] <losted> hello all, I tried creating the locale “fr_FR” with the command “sudo /usr/share/locales/install-language-pack fr_FR” but it created “fr_FR.utf8” … how can I create only “fr_FR” please? thanks
[15:11] <yorwos> im using ubuntu studio
[15:11] <nightwolf_> it is a os that you can us on a usb
[15:12] <yorwos> im not interested ty
[15:13] <somebody> Is there a particular channel devoted to the alt.installer that I can ask around?
[15:14] <minamohsen> hello
[15:14] <nightwolf_> I use ubuntu to but I trys other os to
[15:14] <minamohsen> anyone with experience on cron jobs through files not commands ?
[15:14] <yorwos> ?
[15:14] <yorwos> but its not what i asked
[15:15] <yorwos> i asked whats the difference between "linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP"  + "lowlatency linux kernel image"
[15:16] <k1l_> somebody: the alternate installer was dropped
[15:16] <nightwolf_> its just bigger then a 32 bit
[15:17] <k1l_> yorwos: low-latency is used for special cases. like soundproducing and such
[15:17] <somebody> k1l_: I know, but I need it to get a FDE using the latest system version on which it's not broken, which appears to be 12.04.5, where it is available only from the alt. installer.
[15:17] <yorwos> yes whats that SMP thingy ?
[15:17] <yorwos> shouold i only install the low latency ?
[15:17] <k1l_> yorwos: what?
[15:17] <somebody> Any ideas to get around the issue? I am simply trying to get a FDE installation that wouldn't crash on me.
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: just install the regular kernel image. it will sort it out for you
[15:18] <yorwos> is it trying to install 2 kernels on my system ?
[15:18] <yorwos> im using this for sound production
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: not if you dont select 2
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: ......
[15:18] <k1l_> yorwos: so you will need the lowlatency one.
[15:19] <yorwos> thanx
[15:19] <nightwolf_> the 32bit will work on a 64bit
[15:19] <yorwos> how can i ignore the other kernel on updates ?
[15:20] <k1l_> nightwolf_: dont irritate the user here. there is no reason to not run 64bit kernels on 64bit hardware for the regular user
[15:20] <k1l_> yorwos: install the low-latency meta package. it will install the new ones if there are low latency ones
[15:20] <xscesn05>  /join #ISAchannel
[15:21] <nightwolf_> kil ??
[15:22] <cristian_c> Hello
[15:22] <Adephit> hello i need how ~/.vnc/xstartup  should look like to initiate lxde
[15:22] <Adephit> thanks
[15:22] <cristian_c> I've got a multimedia keyboard
[15:23] <cristian_c> either /lib/udev/findkeyboards and sudo /lib/udev/keymap -i input/eventX commands, pressing multimedia keys does nothing
[15:23] <cristian_c> same situation with sudo evtest
[15:23] <cannon> hi all... someone know a linux native software to view photometrical IES diagram??
[15:23] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:25] <beeez> Hello, I need your help: I have a USB-loudspeaker and it didn't work (no sound). So I have edited alsa-base.conf (index for usb-audio is "0" now) and now it is working. But I have problem: There are three keys/buttons on the the usb-loudspeaker. Volume up, volume down and mute. This don't work. Can someone help me?
[15:25] <White_Cat> as suggested here I installed network-manager
[15:26] <White_Cat> well its still installing
[15:26] <nightwolf_> what cumputer?
[15:26] <White_Cat> I imagine there are easy(er) waysto define a static ip with it?
[15:26] <White_Cat> this is on an ubuntu server
[15:26] <nightwolf_> beez what cumputer?
[15:26] <White_Cat> can it pick current dns settings, subnet masks etc just leaving me the input for the ethernet?
[15:27] <YamDX-7> White_Cat you could edit /etc/network/interfaces
[15:28] <White_Cat> YamakasY sure but I dont want to do this manually preferably
[15:28] <nightwolf_> beeez what cumputer??
[15:28] <White_Cat> I am more interested in learning easier methods than resolving a problem like this :)
[15:28] <beeez> nightwolf_: I use Lubuntu
[15:28] <yorwos> um , besides those 4 files theres another file "complete low latency kernel"
[15:29] <nightwolf_> laptop or desktop?
[15:31] <BlitzHere> http://i.imgur.com/zohTag7.png?1
[15:31] <beeez> nightwolf_: Desktop
[15:31] <BlitzHere> Can anyone help?
[15:32] <BlitzHere> Fresh install
[15:32] <BlitzHere> Ubuntu 14.10
[15:32] <YamakasY> White_Cat: what ?
[15:33] <BlitzHere> Single boot, uses full disk with swap on flash drive - oh, and I chose btrfs as the FS for the heck of it. Want to know what's causing this
[15:33] <BlitzHere> And, yes, I can decrypt just fine from the live distro
[15:34] <nightwolf_> I ask some usb driver don't work on some os
[15:34] <raviepic3> i followed the directions in this link sorry forgot to include that i folloed the command given in the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release/91821#91821...... when i do dist-upgrade it says 0 of 0 and when i do apt-get update, it says GPG error: following signatures are invalid NODATA1 and NODATA2
[15:34] <raviepic3> kindly help on how to proceed
[15:34] <k1l_> White_Cat: why dont you put your static ip stuff intoi the /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:35] <YamDX-7> thats what i suggested
[15:35] <k1l_> raviepic3: run "sudo do-release-upgrade" to get to a new ubuntu version
[15:36] <nightwolf_> try ubuntu it good for desktop and laptops beeez
[15:36] <raviepic3> k1l_: i am on datacard - how much size compared to the old one do you think the new version will cost me ? 700 MB ?
[15:37] <beeez> nightwolf_: But the keys on the loudspeaker had worked already - so it should be possible with Lubuntu
[15:37] <k1l_> raviepic3: you mean the update to a new release?
[15:38] <nightwolf_> maybe you need a update
[15:38] <k1l_> raviepic3: you have no choice of staying on the old release. that is not getting any security or bug updates. so you are vulnerable to shellstorm and stuff.
[15:38] <alreadytried> wth is a shellstorm?
[15:38] <alreadytried> sounds bad
[15:39] <anonymous_> JOB WANTED AS HACKER DO YOU QUALIFY?
[15:39] <k1l_> ah wait. it was renamed to shellshock :)
[15:39] <anonymous_> JOB WANTED AS HACKER DO YOU QUALIFY?
[15:39] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, how do I get the cursor to never blink in terminal in 12.04 LTS?
[15:39]  * genii feeds k1l_ more cookies and coffee
[15:39] <PaRaD0xxR> I don't want it to ever blink
[15:39]  * k1l_ thanks
[15:40] <PaRaD0xxR> related question is it possible to change the cursor color?
[15:40] <raviepic3> k1l_: right now i want to get out of this with my datacard internet... and then i can connect to my friends broaband internet and upgrade - is possible to do that way ?
[15:41] <k1l_> raviepic3: so what do you want to do?
[15:41] <ShishKabab> free -m is telling me I have 68mb of 2gb left, while when I add up the memory of all my processes, it comes down to 1386 mb. What's eating my memory?
[15:41] <k1l_> ShishKabab: linuxatemyram.com explains the display of free -m
[15:42] <k1l_> ShishKabab: most users read the first line which adds buffers and cache.
[15:42] <raviepic3> k1l_: when i do-upgrade it says no vali opengpg data found.. authentication of upgrade failed.. !
[15:43] <raviepic3> k1l_: i want to get my gnome-desktop back first.. then will do the upgrade on broadband internet later
[15:43] <k1l_> raviepic3: what is the issue there?
[15:45] <PaRaD0xxR> figured it out myself, thanks!
[15:45] <raviepic3> k1l_: sources outdated due to my unsupported release anymore.. even after manually installing python
[15:45] <raviepic3> k1l_: when i do-upgrade it says no vali opengpg data found.. authentication of upgrade failed.. !
[15:46] <ShishKabab> k1l_: Haha, mystery solved. Doesn't explain why I've been low on memory lately though. The thing has been swapping like crazy and it's making work very frustrating... Anyway, thank you!
[15:47] <rishabh> everytime i start my ubuntu operating system i get this error
[15:47] <rishabh> sorry,ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error
 raviepic3: and why should that break the gnome desktop?
[15:47] <rishabh> what's wrong with this ?? please someone tell
[15:48] <k1l> rishabh: click on the details button or see the logs what happend.
[15:48] <raviepic3> k1l_: gnome-desktop got broken because i uninstalled python 2.7 in an effort to install python 3 to learn django
[15:49] <k1l> raviepic3: oh, well. since ubuntu based quite a lot of python there might be a lot more broken then.
[15:49] <rishabh> k1l: executable path is showing /usr/sbin/pptp
[15:49] <rishabh> and problemtype is crash
[15:50] <Sheepolution> Ben64: Hey, I had the problem with the login manager from a few hours ago.
[15:50] <rishabh> k1l: title is pptp crashed with sigsegv
[15:50] <k1l> rishabh: that seems to be some depredacted vpn stuff
[15:50] <raviepic3> k1l: no way to recover ?
[15:50] <Sheepolution> Ben64: I came to tell you that it's fixed. Thanks for the help!
[15:50] <rishabh> k1l: vpn stuff
[15:51] <rishabh> so what should i do?
[15:51] <k1l> raviepic3: since this is a old ubuntu i personally would make a backup and make a clean new install with a 14.04 lts
[15:51] <k1l> rishabh: if you dont experience any issue , dont mind
[15:51] <raviepic3> k1l: ok,... on it
[15:51] <raviepic3> thank you
[15:52] <rishabh> okk..thanks K1l
[15:54] <JabaTheHut> people, does the latest ubuntu work with the latest Mac OS?
[15:55] <raviepic3> k1l: whats the safest way to backup where i can see progress and exceptions ?
[15:55] <raviepic3> rsync ?
[16:00] <martin1969> hello. i'm trying to show someone how to install add on in firefox.  how do i capture the screen of the drop down menu when i click on the menu icon in firefox? if i press screen capture icon, it captures the screen without the drop down menu.
[16:00] <martin1969> screen capture button, rather.
[16:01] <Axeman> just installed ubuntu server - do i need to install SSH using apt-get? or should it alrady be there?
[16:01] <Jake> Hey there, I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and when I type the poundsign over ssh onto my weechat install, instead of a pound sign showing, two question marks are shown
[16:01] <Fuchs> martin1969: either use scrot on a command line with a delay, or ksnapshot with a delay
[16:01] <Fuchs> martin1969: run that, open the menu, wait. Done.
[16:01] <Jake> Axeman: I believe ssh is installed by default
[16:02] <martin1969> fuchs, thanks. i'll try that now.
[16:02] <Axeman> that's what i thought Jake but this tells me to isntall it
[16:02] <Axeman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH
[16:02] <Jake> Axeman: see if you can ssh on port 22 of the machine, if not you need to install it :)
[16:04] <Axeman> Jake, that's sorta what i tried. got error, googled. said install. really? install? let me ask IRC, for sho ;-)
[16:04] <martin1969> fuchs, now that i installed scrot, how do i open it in the terminal?
[16:05] <YamDX-7> scrot -d 10 (10 seconds delay)
[16:05] <YamDX-7> scrot -h should give you some advise
[16:05] <martin1969> yamdx, thanks.
[16:05] <YamDX-7> np
[16:06] <YamDX-7> the image will be in you home directory
[16:07] <martin1969> yamdx, you rock.
[16:08] <Smrtz|Work> Hey!  I'm using ubuntu as the root OS for my xen server, can someone help me figure out how to partition the drives with LVM for guest OS' please?
[16:08] <YamDX-7> I have my bright moments @ martin1969 ;)
[16:08] <Smrtz|Work> I don't have an X environment, so I think the tool I need to use parted?
[16:09] <OerHeks> !lvm
[16:09] <alreadytried> fake!
[16:10] <Adephit> how the ~/.vnc/xstartup should look like? startlubuntu & ---> or something like this?
[16:13] <martin1969> does anyone use gps like tomtom? i'm looking for poi (point of interest) editor. anyone have experience with it?
[16:16] <spaztik> Anyone know how to get the dropbox menu in the filemanager context menu? (i.e, https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/167) The app didn't seem to make the changes
[16:16] <OerHeks> martin1969,  haven't found one ( for months) all i know is an online editor http://garmin.gps-data-team.com/poi_manager.php
[16:16] <OerHeks> not sure it handles tomtom files also ..
[16:18] <martin1969> oerheks, thanks for the info. i think this is a class of  app that we should have in the arsensal.
[16:20] <OerHeks> martin1969, true
[16:20] <Rarrikins> How do I get do-release-upgrade to upgrade to 14.10 from 14.04? It just says "No new release found".
[16:21] <martin1969> just out of curiosity. is there an emulation software like Parellel for Mac, that enables ubuntu user to install and run windows app without having to install the entire OS?
[16:21] <somsip> !wine | martin1969
[16:21] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[16:21] <Rarrikins> martin1969: There's also VirtualBox if you have an install CD with the key.
[16:22] <YamDX-7> Rarrikins sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:22] <YamDX-7> should do the trick
[16:22] <martin1969> Rarrikins, i take it it's a paid application. how does it fare compare to other emulation software?
[16:23] <vishnu> hello
[16:23] <somsip> martin1969: no - free
[16:23] <YamDX-7> hello vishnu
[16:23] <martin1969> cool.
[16:23] <Rarrikins> martin1969: I haven't really used other software, so I'm unsure, but it is free (though the Windows you'd install into it wouldn't be).
[16:23] <martin1969> ahh, so you do have to install the OS.
[16:24] <trism> Rarrikins: you probably need to enable normal release upgrades, lts defaults to only upgrade to the next lts, you can switch it in software-properties-gtk or /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[16:24] <kamui_Shirou> bye
[16:24] <somsip> martin1969: wine is a compatibility layer. VirtualBox runs a virtual PC you can run under the ubuntu host, and put any OS on the virtual PC
[16:24] <martin1969> there is a software on the mac side that you can run windows app without having to install the entire os.
[16:25] <alreadytried> anyone else sick of all this fake maple syrup here in america? Guess what the #1 ingredient in maple syrup should be? Not corn syrup!!! Rage!!
[16:25] <OerHeks> !ot | alreadytried
[16:25] <csst0111> say I run something like : find . -iname foo* and I get a bunch of results like foo1, foo2 , foo3, etc - how can I use the n-th result in my next command ? Like vim nth-previous. Is it possible ?
[16:27] <alreadytried> OerHeks lets try being more organic
[16:27] <somsip> csst0111: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/59700/bash-capture-use-last-or-nth-line-in-stdout
[16:27] <EriC^^> csst0111: what are you trying to achieve ultimately?
[16:28] <martin1969> thanks for the help ppl. have a nice day.
[16:28] <SergioAD> Hello there
[16:28] <alreadytried> hi Sergio
[16:28] <SergioAD> I have an important question
[16:28] <Axeman> sudo wget -O - https://swupdate.openvpn.net/repos/repo-public.gpg|apt-key add -
[16:28] <Axeman> gives me an error
[16:28] <SergioAD> how can I remove the unity's replacement menus to gmenu?
[16:28] <Axeman> Cannot write to â-â (Success).
[16:28] <Axeman> what am i doing wrong?
[16:28] <Axeman> i literally copy/pasted that from openvpn.net's guide
[16:29] <frib> i have this issue where vlc hangs for around 15 seconds whenever i try to close it or a video ends.  what can I do?
[16:29] <csst0111> EriC^^: avoid writing the whole path to open the file I want
[16:29] <SergioAD> in other words how can I remove the multiple classic style menus from Ubuntu and only use the one item menubar of Gnome apps (gmenu)
[16:29] <Pici> Axeman: sudo will not pass IO redirection operators.  do:  wget -O - https://swupdate.openvpn.net/repos/repo-public.gpg | sudo apt-key add -
[16:29] <glcheetham> Axeman, I don't think that's the right command, maybe you missed some when you ctrl c ctrl v'd
[16:30] <SergioAD> I want install Ubuntu gnome but I fear it because the Gnome apps with not gmenu enabled shows a classic styled menubar over the CSDs
[16:30] <Axeman> thanks pici, will try
[16:30] <Axeman> glcheetham, that's what i figured the - hanging out at the end.
[16:30] <Axeman> but that's what they have ou tthere.
[16:30] <SergioAD> somebody know what I can do?
[16:30] <Axeman> https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/OpenvpnSoftwareRepos
[16:31] <Pici> Axeman: The - at the end means to take the info from stdin
[16:31] <glcheetham> Axeman, what are you actually trying to do?
[16:31] <Axeman> well Pici that worked
[16:31] <Axeman> glcheetham, you think i have a clue? lol
[16:32] <glcheetham> Axeman , if you're trying to connect to an openVPN vpn there is a much easier way
[16:32] <Axeman> i'm tyring to create an openvpn server
[16:32] <Axeman> that i can connect to
[16:32] <Axeman> so i can get my pr0ns where ever i am in the world
[16:32] <Guest56798> Axeman: why not use an SFTP server?
[16:33] <Guest56798> Axeman: you dont need a VPN then, just port forward 22/TCP to your server
[16:33] <Axeman> lol not just pr0ns Guest56798 i'm being facetious
[16:33] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys I recently updated my ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10
[16:33] <glcheetham> Axeman, You should probably just get the package from the ubuntu repos
[16:33] <dhanasekaran> after my upgrade mouse click not working any idea how tot fix thus
[16:34] <glcheetham> Axeman, Also, follow a tutorial from the ubuntu wiki
[16:34] <Guest56798> Axeman: if you install squid you can make an SSH tunnel which will then use the proxy and give you web access if you set the browser proxy to the tunnel port on the client
[16:35] <dhanasekaran> keyboard and mouse not responding after distribution upgrade please guide me
[16:35] <glcheetham> dhanasekaran, I always do fresh installs when upgrading, just to be sure problems don't happen
[16:36] <Axeman> glcheetham, i only see the bridged version - need dig to find routed
[16:36] <glcheetham> dhanasekaran, also, I think there was a guy on the ubuntu forums today asking the same question, perhaps you could find that thread?
[16:36] <dhanasekaran> glcheetham: I will check now
[16:37] <Axeman> Guest56798, i need access on mobiles too. i know i need a vpn - just not used to manually setting up ubuntu. i've used the openvpn access server virtual appliance. but can't afford to pay licensing so that my tablets and laptop and phone (5 deviceS) can connect
[16:39] <acerspyro> Using 14.10, some windows when maximized do this: http://i.imgur.com/yFcmDtG.png
[16:39] <acerspyro> I've seen it happen with Chromium and Blender so far
[16:39] <acerspyro> Look on the edge of the app bar.
[16:40] <acerspyro> The window's display is kinda skewed to the right. Clicking is off a bit on these windows aswell
[16:45] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> \\0
[16:45] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> 0//
[16:45] <Rarrikins> trism: software-properties-gtk worked. Thanks :)
[16:45] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> \0__
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> __0/
[16:46] <rivarun> hi all. is there a version of debianutils with binaries that provide more options? for example i need some flags for `which` that are present in other unixes, but not ubuntu
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> \0/
[16:46] <acerspyro> [Nark3l0zvalsky]: please
[16:46] <acerspyro> No spam, go away.
[16:46] <decci> How to write this two commands as a single command: cd /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/common/bin expect ./script.exp
[16:46] <reisio> rivarun: what other Unixes?
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:46] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:46] <unopaste> [Nark3l0zvalsky] you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:46] <acerspyro> gb
[16:46] <reisio> decci: separate with a ';'
[16:46] <acerspyro> k gr8
[16:46] <rivarun> reisio: other linuxes actually, like gentoo
[16:46] <acerspyro> :D
[16:46] <reisio> decci: or better yet, a '; '
[16:46] <reisio> rivarun: what flags?
[16:47] <glcheetham> ubuntulooser and proud!
[16:47] <rivarun> reisio: all of them: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?which vs http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/en/man1/which.1.html
[16:47] <Guest56798> decci: possibly:   expect /vagrant/shell/u01/oracle/fmw/wlserver_10.3/wlserver/common/bin/script.exp
[16:47] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:47] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:47] <acerspyro> It's such a bad word play anyways
[16:47] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:47] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:47] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:47] <[Nark3l0zvalsky]> fuck you Ubuntuloosers
[16:47] <teward> !ops | [Nark3l0zvalsky]
[16:47] <unopaste> [Nark3l0zvalsky] you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:47] <Guest56798> jpds: thanks
[16:47] <acerspyro> lol
[16:47] <reisio> rivarun: so I have to read this instead of you just answering me :p
[16:48] <rivarun> reisio: --read-alias --skip-alias --read-functions --skip-functions --skip-dot --skip-tilde --show-dot --show-tilde --tty-only --version and --help
[16:49] <alreadytried> that wasnt very nice of that Nark fella
[16:49] <acerspyro> So yeah, anyone has an idea about this? http://i.imgur.com/yFcmDtG.png Note that the window's display is skewed to the right when it is in fullscreen
[16:49] <alreadytried> just cause we're learning a new operating system doesnt make us losers
[16:49] <reisio> rivarun: http://web.archive.org/web/20131222082758/http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/which/which-2.20.tar.gz
[16:50] <acerspyro> alreadytried: Not all of us
[16:50] <acerspyro> I'm pretty deep into Linux, and I actually come from Arch. I figure this guy must come from another Distro channel who thinks Ubuntu is for babies or something.
[16:50] <Adephit> how i start the lubuntu with vnc? startlubuntu & -->>> doesn't work, i get a gray screen
[16:50] <alreadytried> for babies? learning ubuntu is the hardest thing i ever had to do!
[16:51] <rivarun> reisio: i could do that. except ubuntu systematically does this. is there some political reason that prevents them from shipping the same binaries that other distributions ship? i had same trouble with `realpath`
[16:51] <acerspyro> alreadytried: You're from Windows, they are not.
[16:51] <reisio> rivarun: distros differ, that is what makes them separate
[16:51] <k1l> acerspyro: alreadytried dont mind the trolls. its not worth it :)
[16:51] <acerspyro> k
[16:51] <acerspyro> Can I re-ask my question?
[16:52] <alreadytried> yeah im from windows :(   do people think people from windows are noobs? I'm new to linux and im really excited :D
[16:52] <reisio> rivarun: you probably have coreutils' realpath, with a different name
[16:52] <rivarun> reisio: i just expect standard-ish flags on standard utilities to be there. i'm not complaining, ubuntu can do what it pleases. i'm asking why it's like that
[16:52] <reisio> rivarun: mmm, I don't know the history
[16:52] <Guest56798> alreadytried: if you are new to Linux then thats all it is. I don't use 'noob', everyone is learning every day
[16:52] <k1l> alreadytried: the user who got kicked was an idiot trying to make trouble (called trolls). just dont mind them.
[16:53] <mcphail> rivarun: many of these decisions are made upstream in Debian. You could have a search on the mailing lists or contact the maintainer to see if there have been political objections to particular sources. Most of the time there is a good reason
[16:53] <reisio> rivarun: my guess would be that debian's which predates the one Gentoo uses at this time, whether it's inferior or not
[16:53] <acerspyro> k1l: Sometimes what you
[16:53] <alreadytried> ahh ok. yeah i never tried linux before ubuntu. but i deleted my windows install by accident so ubuntu is all i have now :D
[16:53] <mcphail> rivarun: sometimes they simply haven't got round to updating the package
[16:53] <Guest56798> Adephit: what are you going to be doing on the VNC sessin? There may be a better way to do what you need
[16:53] <reisio> rivarun: and before that it may have been in csh
[16:54] <Guest56798> alreadytried: feet first huh :)
[16:54] <reisio> rivarun: what you should really learn is that all these fancy parameters are unreliable
[16:54] <reisio> which does one job, and does it well
[16:54] <alreadytried> haha yeah
[16:54] <reisio> BSD guys shudder at, for example, all the parameters that 'tar' has
[16:54] <reisio> and how it can utilize gzip and xz
[16:54] <reisio> instead of just using another pipe
[16:54] <reisio> that is true reliability
[16:54] <reisio> as tar params actually have changed lots over time
[16:54] <reisio> (GNU tar)
[16:55] <Adephit> i can't do any other way Guest56798. whay i need to change here?: http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  thanks
[16:55] <acerspyro_> crashed
[16:55] <rivarun> reisio: so you've tested that version of which and it's unreliable?
[16:55] <acerspyro_> The network architecture here is terrible, I'm sure they run it on Pentium 4 machines running XP
[16:55] <reisio> rivarun: no I'm saying params in general are
[16:56] <reisio> rivarun: Unix apps are meant to do one thing, not a million
[16:56] <acerspyro_> I'll ask for the third time
[16:56] <rivarun> reisio: it's still one thing. just with more customization
[16:56] <reisio> what you should rely on, and no doubt can rely on _any_ implementation of 'which' to do is print a path
[16:56] <reisio> and that is all, that was all there ever was to rely on
[16:56] <reisio> rivarun: anyways, if you want to use Gentoo use it :)
[16:56] <reisio> I do :p
[16:57] <acerspyro_> http://i.imgur.com/yFcmDtG.png Note the window appearing as skewed to the right a bit, I an using 14.10 and this problem has shown up on Chromium and blender so far. Anyone knows what it is?
[16:57] <zy3pD> rcconf shows me atieventsd does anyone know what it do?
[16:58] <reisio> but Gentoo is probably one of the least conformity concerned distros there are, so it's not its preference for standardness that produces the executables you apparently prefer
[16:58] <sacarlson> acerspyro I really can't see any skew in the image so it must be in your monitor
[16:58] <reisio> not that I'd consider Debian using 'realpath' from something other than GNU coreutils to be particularly non-NIH :p
[16:58] <bleechAcer> God damn it, that network.
[16:58] <bleechAcer> <- acerspyro
[16:58] <bleechAcer> Did anyone answer my question yet?
[16:58] <reisio> but there may well be historical reasons for it, Debian is actually responsible for a lot of great apps we have now
[16:59] <reisio> bleechAcer: yes, I'm answering it now, I don't know if anyone did
[16:59] <bleechAcer> reisio: I didn't see it
[16:59] <Sc0tty-> if I run a make install but I want to run the make again, do I need to remove all the installed files or will it write over the existing ones?
[16:59] <bleechAcer> I timed out right after I asked
[16:59] <bleechAcer> Webchat can't keep a connection open
[16:59] <alreadytried> is fedora, linux?
[16:59] <reisio> alreadytried: GNU/Linux, yes
[17:00] <alreadytried> ahh. one day i should learn the history of linux :D
[17:00] <reisio> although once upon a time it was merely a set of additional software for Red Hat, much as the BSDs were
[17:00] <reisio> (for Unix)
[17:00] <reisio> nowadays it's the testing/unstable branch of RHEL(/CentOS/etc.)
[17:00] <sacarlson> Sc0tty-: normaly if you make with out clean then it will only compile source that has changed
[17:00] <alreadytried> only thing i know is that linux was made in 1991 by a guy named linus. right?
[17:00] <bleechAcer> alreadytried: Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, SuSE, Debian, Gentoo, Knoppix, LFS...
[17:01] <bleechAcer> No
[17:01] <bleechAcer> Linux is a kernel
[17:01] <alreadytried> hey isnt knoppix the one with the penquin?
[17:01] <bleechAcer> alreadytried: Yup
[17:01] <reisio> alreadytried: heh
[17:01] <reisio> LFS not exactly a distro
[17:01] <k1l> alreadytried: i bet the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic will talk to you about general linux stuff. we try to keep this channel for actual ubuntu support.
[17:02] <bleechAcer> k1l: It's all you do, send users to that channel :P
[17:02] <bleechAcer> reisio: You were saying you were about to answer my question?
[17:02] <alreadytried> yeah good thinking, i type /join #ubuntu-offtopic right?
[17:03] <FilthyMacNasty> yuppers that will do it alreadytried
[17:03] <alreadytried> ok thank you very much!
[17:04] <Adephit> I have installed the lubuntu + vnc4server. but in vnc appears a gray screen,what do i have to change here ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  Thanks.
[17:04] <bleechAcer> Also, fullscreen applications have issues with alt+tab
[17:04] <bleechAcer> Sometimes, they end up crashing, but they will always cover up the entire screen even if another app is active
[17:05] <teward> anyone know if there's a list of supported architectures for any given release lying around anywhere?
[17:05] <bleechAcer> teward: What do you have?
[17:06] <afrokarlsson> ja mis sa nüüd siis teed tahad midagi oma peaga ka mõelda veel?
[17:06] <bleechAcer> afrokarlsson: pick the channel for your language
[17:06] <teward> bleechAcer: i'm on amd64, that's not why i need the list ;)
[17:06] <bleechAcer> teward: of
[17:06] <bleechAcer> oh*
[17:07] <bleechAcer> Well, I think it does i386, AMD64, PPC32, PPC64, ARM
[17:07] <mcphail> bleechAcer: ARM isn't supported on all releases
[17:07] <bleechAcer> indeed
[17:08] <Guest56798> alreadytried: the mascot of GNU Linux is Tux, a penguin
[17:08] <bleechAcer> could also check on Wikipedia
[17:09] <reisio> Guest6242: well, the mascot of Linux... not GNU/Linux (or GNU)
[17:09] <Adephit> I have installed the lubuntu + vnc4server. but in vnc appears a gray screen,what do i have to change here ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  Thanks.
[17:09] <reisio> teward: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions#Instruction_set_architecture_support
[17:09] <bleechAcer> Adephit: Not much support right now, it seems
[17:09] <reisio> teward: simpler to use Debian for more exotic hardware
[17:10] <FilthyMacNasty> Adephit: may I PM you about the vnc thing?
[17:10] <Adephit> yes, thanks
[17:11] <Adephit> FilthyMascNasty
[17:12] <Sc0tty-> how do I change my keyboard layout from US to EU in 14.04?
[17:14] <sacarlson> Adephit: did you try vino-server  i thought that comes preinstalled.  I used to start it from remote with ssh back in the day
[17:14] <Adephit> oh
[17:14] <Adephit> i didn't
[17:15] <sacarlson> Adephit: I've never tried your vnc4server
[17:15] <Adephit> but i need to know how to start the lubuntu with vnc
[17:15] <FilthyMacNasty> answer your pm
[17:15] <Adephit>  ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy
[17:16] <sacarlson> Adephit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/12206/how-do-i-start-the-vnc-server
[17:19] <givello> hey there
[17:21] <alexgl> what's the easiest order of installation for setting up dual boot. install win 7 > move partitions > create partitions for ubuntu > install ubuntu?
[17:22] <glcheetham> alexgl, yes installing windows first is definately easiest, but it's not impossible to go the other way
[17:22] <givello> Is EriC^^ or Bashing-om around?
[17:22] <it_> hi
[17:22] <it_> anyone online?
[17:23] <alexgl> glcheetham: i did it pretty much backwards. is the mbr a pain in the rear to move. or where would it even be on the efi partition? and if so can i write it to the windows one?
[17:23] <tortib> Hello everyone.  I'm having a strange problem with Java & SSL not connecting to authserver.mojang.com ; I'm able to run curl https://authserver.mojang.com just fine and receive the JSON output.  However, when using java to make a connection with SSL it doesn't work at all.  Anyone who connects to my minecraft server receives an error stating the authservers are down (which they're not).  You can find out more information about it here -> https://bugs.mojan
[17:23] <tortib> g.com/browse/MC-71840 <-
[17:23] <tortib> https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-71840
[17:23] <tortib> I have tried talking to the minecraft support people and they're stumped so I figured I would try here with some people more familiar with linux.
[17:23] <sacarlson> alexgl: ya windows install first and setup at least one partition in windows that you plan to use to install ubuntu in.  maybe 2 if you want to also have swap  and 3 if you want a separate /home
[17:24] <alexgl> sacarlson: what happens to the mbr once ubuntu is installed, does grub move it?
[17:24] <glcheetham> alexgl, http://askubuntu.com/questions/92874/how-do-i-install-windows-7-alongside-a-pre-existing-ubuntu-installation
[17:26] <sacarlson> alexgl: ubuntu will sence that windows is there and ask if you want to keep it.  just say yes save it.  all the rest is auto taken care of
[17:26] <yeticry> the xfce project is stopped?
[17:26] <alexgl> sacarlson glcheetham : what happened is i have brand new dells and they have 3 partitions initially, one for 40megs of something from dell, one for a few gigs recovery and one for main install win7. I nuked it all and started with ubuntu and then put on windows 7 but it goes straight to windows now. my question is if i can customize grub to have dual boot with win7 auto selected
[17:27] <yeticry> it's components is very old.
[17:27] <sacarlson> alexgl: only think you might want to change after install is what boots by default as ubuntu will defualt to boot without any action
[17:27] <bleez> Habe a problem with my USB speaker. There are three buttons on it (volume down, mute, volume up). Unfortunately, they don't work - I don't know why. :/
[17:28] <alexgl> sacarlson: i'll try that. I know it's resolvable, I just want to have a pretty clean start for making an image of the entire drive to clone it on rest of my machines.
[17:29] <zerobaud> Could anybody be so kind to the line in their .xinitrc that starts their WM?. like for example
[17:29] <zerobaud> exec ck-launch-session....
[17:29] <zerobaud> and also the line that starts their polkit agent....
[17:29] <reisio> zerobaud: what for
[17:29] <Guest56798> yeticry: xfce is alive and well, what gave you that idea?
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> zerobaud: For what DE?
[17:30] <zerobaud> the ubuntu DE,
[17:30] <reisio> zerobaud: the Ubuntu DE uses a DM to launch itself
[17:30] <reisio> not a ~/.xinitrc
[17:30] <zerobaud> reisio, ah I am actually not here for ubuntu specific help. I just needed a .xinitrc example
[17:30] <reisio> zerobaud: what for
[17:31] <zerobaud> reisio I am running gentoo and want fine grained access control for my libvirtd VM's. The problem is polkits agent does not start when it should
[17:31] <zerobaud> I can start it manually like this "/usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1" and everything works
[17:32] <zerobaud> but when I put that line in my .xinitrc before I launch my wm. It says "Unable to determine session"
[17:33] <reisio> zerobaud: some reason you aren't talking to #gentoo? :p
[17:33] <zerobaud> resio, nobody who knows it is currently paying attention to irc...
[17:34] <reisio> uhuh
[17:34] <reisio> zerobaud: what do you have now?
[17:34] <zerobaud> reisio a polkit agent that only works after I manually start it after my WM and X has started
[17:35] <reisio> zerobaud: what do you have in ~/.xinitrc
[17:35] <tortib> can anyone help me with my problem? :(
[17:35] <zerobaud> reisio: LINE1"/usr/libexec/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &" LINE2"exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session i3"
[17:36] <reisio> zerobaud: I doubt you'd want to explicitly call it, at any rate
[17:36] <reisio> zerobaud: there are some lighter polkit agents, too
[17:37] <zerobaud> reisio I would love that, the gnome one isnt really needed
[17:37] <zerobaud> I loved the TUI based one but it wont launch when GUI's need it
[17:37] <reisio> zerobaud: lxpolkit maybe
[17:38] <zerobaud> cool, will try to install that and purge the gnome one. mayby it will solve my problem aswell. If not I will open a formal ticket
[17:38]  * reisio shrugs
[17:38] <zerobaud> thanks for youre time!
[17:39] <Baako> hi guys i have install kubuntu on VMWare player but the screen size is really small
[17:39] <Baako> how can i make it fit the whole screen?
[17:40] <jhutchins_wk> Baako: Do you have the vmware tools installed?
[17:41] <OerHeks> Baako, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player for VMware/Tools
[17:41] <Baako> jhutchins_wk i just have VMWARE PLAYER
[17:41] <Baako> install
[17:42] <EriC^^> givello: hello
[17:43] <givello> EriC^^: not sure if you remember me from yesterday night
[17:44] <EriC^^> givello: i do
[17:44] <givello> EriC^^: I foumd a way to get some information out of the system while it boots
[17:44] <givello> EriC^^: although not in standard mode
[17:44] <EriC^^> cool, how?
[17:44] <givello> EriC^^: when using recovery mode, the system freezes on the recovery menu
[17:45] <givello> EriC^^: but modifications to the boot line then F10 actually have an effect
[17:45] <EriC^^> i see
[17:45] <givello> EriC^^: so in recovery mode I can see the text, nosplash, verbose mode
[17:45] <givello> EriC^^: let me go back to the computer and see what error it printed
[17:45] <EriC^^> ok
[17:47] <givello> EriC^^: so, by deleting recovery from the boot line and adding nosplash text --verbose, I get those two errors
[17:48] <Mike9863> Yesterday my touchpad randomly stopped working. I've since restarted my laptop and it still isn't working. Can anyone help?
[17:48] <WJB> ?
[17:48] <givello> EriC^^: first, something about FAT and the fact that it can't find the iso8859-1 charset
[17:48] <Scorpion3de> hi, can anyone help to setup ssl on tomcat7? i have some probs and didnt find a reason
[17:48] <WJB> How do i tell what an actual process is doing the output that i find in an ps -ef | grep query?
[17:48] <givello> which explains the unresponsiveness in the recovery menu
[17:48] <pzkpfw> d54HGdhiSA49FHJ28z
[17:48] <givello> EriC^^: and the second, more worrying, is about not finding the efi partition
[17:49] <EriC^^> givello: ok
[17:49] <givello> EriC^^: correction, it says error while mounting /boot/efi
[17:50] <givello> EriC^^: and the first error says FAT-FS: IO charset iso 8859-1 not found
[17:50] <EriC^^> ok
[17:50] <EriC^^> are you in the live usb right now?
[17:50] <givello> EriC^^: no, I'm actually using another computer
[17:50] <EriC^^> ok, boot into the live usb
[17:51] <EriC^^> mount the ubuntu installation
[17:51] <givello> and unfortunately I won't get a hang of the usb drive just now, cause it isn't mine and the owner is away right now...
[17:51] <EriC^^> and paste bin sudo parted -l , as well as /etc/fstab
[17:51] <givello> EriC^^: not sure we can do anything whatsoever without it
[17:51] <EriC^^> oh
[17:51] <givello> EriC^^: I already have that info tho
[17:51] <givello> EriC^^: from yesterday
[17:51] <EriC^^> cool
[17:52] <givello> EriC^^: let me look up the irc logs
[17:53] <potatoes_> is crontab the only way I can schedule a process to run at a certain time?
[17:53] <Kara__> Hey all. Can anyone please explain to me what the term "architecturally-independent" means?
[17:53] <potatoes_> are there any other process schedulers
[17:53] <EriC^^> potatoes_: why would you want other process schedulers ?
[17:53] <givello> EriC^^: parted -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/8724376/
[17:53] <potatoes_> I want to have a program schedule it self to run off certain criteria
[17:54] <EriC^^> Kara__: it means it doesn't depend on whether it is 32bit or 64bit etc.
[17:54] <EriC^^> potatoes_: such as?
[17:54] <givello> EriC^^: don't have the fstab tho
[17:54] <EriC^^> givello: ok, /etc/fstab
[17:54] <EriC^^> oh
[17:54] <givello> can I get it from grub?
[17:54] <EriC^^> yes you could
[17:55] <jhutchins_wk> potatoes_: That's what cron does, why not use it.
[17:55] <Kara__> EriC^^: I know that, but why shouldn't they be transferred or shared across different operating systems or different versions of the same operating system?
[17:55] <givello> EriC^^: how :D
[17:55] <givello> EriC^^: usb key incoming, yay
[17:55] <EriC^^> ok cool :D
[17:55] <givello> EriC^^: will boot in liveusb
[17:56] <Mike9863> My touchpad isn't working on my user account. It works when I'm at the lightDM login screen and in a guest session. Can anyone help me fix this?
[17:56] <potatoes_> jhutchins: i supposeee
[17:56] <EriC^^> Kara__: architecturally independent means that they can be used on various architectures
[17:57] <EriC^^> Kara__: what's the whole context?
[17:57] <Adephit> anyone can help me using a server to access the lubuntu desktom with ssh. thanks
[17:57] <EriC^^> this software is architecturally independent? or ?
[17:58] <Kara__> EriC^^: Nothing much, just browsing through the FHS in details when someone brought up this term, has gotten me pondering then :)
[17:58] <Kara__> EriC^^: Something about files in /usr/share being "architecturally-independent"
[18:00] <Axeman> in ubuntu, is there a way to be sudo for a session?
[18:00] <givello> EriC^^: 8734844
[18:00] <Axeman> so i don't have to keep entering sudo for everything ?
[18:00] <Mike9863> Axeman: Type su in terminal
[18:00] <Axeman> authentication failure
[18:00] <Axeman> :'(
[18:00] <dtcrshr> Axeman: sudo su, su -, su root
[18:01] <givello> EriC^^: or maybe not
[18:01] <givello> EriC^^: let me re-read that haha
[18:01] <dtcrshr> either one will grant you this acess
[18:01] <bubbasaures> telling people how to run root here randomly is not supported
[18:01] <genii> Axeman: sudo -i
[18:01] <givello> EriC^^: there
[18:01] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735844/
[18:02] <EriC^^> givello: ok
[18:02] <EriC^^> givello: also, sudo blkid
[18:03] <givello> EriC^^: right away
[18:04] <givello> EriC^^: 8735896
[18:04] <givello> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8735896
[18:04] <lelo> hey gys... ive updated to 14.10 on my lenovo y50 4k and now it gives me a black screen when I log into the system... I bet this has to do with the dual card situation this laptop have going on
[18:04] <lelo> how can I fix this?
[18:05] <reisio> lelo: /msg ubottu nomodeset
[18:05] <Axeman> urgh!!~!~
[18:05] <Axeman> cp -r /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/* /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/
[18:05] <Xubook> I have a quick question if anyone can help... How can I move my bootable usb ubuntu to my harddrive?  Is this possible?
[18:05] <Axeman> cp: cannot stat â/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/*â: No such file or directory
[18:05] <reisio> Axeman: tab completion is your friend
[18:05] <Axeman> i'm not afraid of a command line - but this is not working so good.
[18:05] <reisio> Xubook: what for?
[18:06] <Axeman> shouhttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html
[18:06] <reisio> Axeman: so well :)
[18:06] <Axeman> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html
[18:06] <reisio> Axeman: you using 12.04?
[18:06] <EriC^^> givello: ok, the UUID's check out in /etc/fstab, i wonder why it can't find the efi partition while booting
[18:06] <lelo> reisio: thank you
[18:06] <lelo> the issue is now I am in irssi and cannot web browse, but I sill try on my phone
[18:06] <Axeman> no - i'm on 14.04 server
[18:06] <Xubook> reisio I used it to start out with linux, and now want to move it all to my harddrive.
[18:07] <bubbasaures> Xubook, his a full installed just the iso loaded?
[18:07] <EriC^^> reisio: grub complains about not finding the efi partition while booting, resulting in a purple screen, /etc/fstab UUID's are correct, any idea why it would complain about this?
[18:07] <reisio> Xubook: why though
[18:07] <reisio> EriC^^: if it couldn't find the efi partition
[18:07] <EriC^^> reisio: (not grub really complaining i guess, the system logged this while booting)
[18:08] <EriC^^> reisio: could be grub complaining though
[18:08] <EriC^^> reisio: yeah?
[18:08]  * reisio shrugs
[18:08] <Xubook> bubbasaures It is fully installed on the usb
[18:08] <Xubook> reisio It seems to be something interesting to try.
[18:09] <reisio> Xubook: you want the data, or the bootable system?
[18:09] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Couple of ways, clone it or copy and paste the partitions in gparted.
[18:09] <EriC^^> givello: maybe try to reinstall grub?
[18:09] <bloodcage> hey guys... anybody tried to install the kde plasma alongside ubuntu 14.04 and had problems like me with keyboard-layout , too?
[18:09] <Xubook> reisio the bootable system
[18:09] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Some would dd, not myself personally, pretty basic stuff really.
[18:09] <reisio> Xubook: how big is the device?
[18:10] <FilthyMacNasty> about 7 inches by 5 inches
[18:11] <Xubook> reisio the usb is 32 gb hard drive is 250 gb
[18:11] <reisio> Xubook: mmm
[18:11] <FilthyMacNasty> you could use clonezilla to clone it to another machine
[18:12] <givello> EriC^^: ok, any preferred instructions for doing so or do I just google it?
[18:12] <Xubook> bubbasaures do you have a link, I am a newb with linux.. sorry
[18:12] <givello> EriC^^: haven't done it in a while
[18:12] <reisio> Xubook: dd if=/dev/foo bs=1024 | gzip > bar.dd.gz
[18:13] <Xubook> reisio So I mount my bootable usb then use your shell script in terminal?
[18:13] <EriC^^> givello: it's fine, if you've mounted the ubuntu installation at /mnt, mount the efi partition at /mnt/boot/efi
[18:13] <reisio> Xubook: don't need to mount it
[18:13] <givello> EriC^^: alright
[18:14] <EriC^^> givello: then run for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:14] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Are you backed up prepared for any contingency?
[18:14] <givello> ok, let me do that
[18:14] <Xubook> Yes I am bubbasaures
[18:15] <bubbasaures> Xubook, Cool, follow reisio they knew the way.
[18:15] <bubbasaures> know*
[18:15] <bynarie> jhutchins_wk, is it safe????
[18:16] <reisio> dd using only 'if=' and redirecting to a simple file is pretty safe
[18:16] <bynarie> no no... it was just a joke
[18:16] <EriC^^> last time i checked dd was a low level copier not a bit hoover :P
[18:16] <reed> is anyone having serious troubles with Thunderbird Calendar? I can't reliably see my google calendars in there anymore, the installed version of Lightning is 3.3.2 while on mozilla.org the latest version is tagged 3.3.1... what's going on?
[18:17] <Xubook> reisio I get this, "dd: opening `/dev/foo': No such file or directory"
[18:17] <bynarie> i cant DD to work.. everytime i use it to copy say a 1.5gb file, it says complete instanly
[18:18] <bynarie> then in file mananger my usb drive shows up in the list about 10 times
[18:18] <Xubook> Should I change foo to the usb name?
[18:18] <reisio> Xubook: 'foo' is the universla first placeholder
[18:18] <reisio> Xubook: yes
[18:18] <genii> Xubook: You need to replace foo with the actual drive
[18:18] <reisio> universal
[18:18] <Xubook> Thanks
[18:18] <FilthyMacNasty> foo is my dog
[18:18] <smrtz|work> I'm trying to tweak my partitions using a live cd and gparted.  Can someone help me out please?
[18:18] <EriC^^> givello: then sudo chroot /mnt
[18:19] <bynarie> what you need to do smrtz|work ???
[18:20] <smrtz|work> bynarie: I'm trying to resize my lvm2 partition so I can create and edit lvms within it.  it's currently too big.
[18:20] <allure> Notebook boots, opens lightdm and goes to black screen when I tyoe the password... The system is dual card with Intel HD 4000 and GT860M... What should i do?
[18:20] <smrtz|work> I'm trying to get setup to use Xen, a hyperviser.
[18:20] <smrtz|work> And I'd like someone to confirm that I'm not deleating my functional install by doing so...
[18:20] <bynarie> smrtz|work, first off you need to make sure you have freespace on the drive, then just right click and hit resize
[18:20] <givello> EriC^^: alright, done
[18:21] <givello> EriC^^: sorry for the delay, had to find a way to copy it there
[18:21] <bynarie> i used gparted all the time to resize partitions... nothing has ever bad happened to me.. yet
[18:21] <smrtz|work> bynarie: resize is grayed out, since the lvm2 is 1.36tb.  It's too big.
[18:21] <givello> EriC^^: I ended up using the line from yesterday in the logs wich is identical
[18:21] <givello> EriC^^: then what?
[18:21] <bynarie> unmount it first then resize it
[18:21] <smrtz|work> bynarie: unmount is grayed out too.
[18:21] <allure> Giving up and installing Debian... Hehehe
[18:22] <bynarie> hm
[18:22] <EriC^^> givello: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[18:22] <bynarie> weird
[18:22] <givello> EriC^^: done
[18:22] <bynarie> i dont know then
[18:22] <EriC^^> givello: ok, grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[18:22] <smrtz|work> bynarie: ahh, ok.
[18:23] <Xubook> reisio So I got this, the usb appeared to be under media... so I changed it around a bit.  Tell me if this output in terminal looks good? Should I reboot the computer now? "dd if=/media/erik/332b31cc-9749-443f-a9f6-c66f444305fb bs=1024 | gzip > bar.dd.gz dd: reading `/media/erik/332b31cc-9749-443f-a9f6-c66f444305fb': Is a directory 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.000534162 s, 0.0 kB/s"
[18:23] <givello> EriC^^: installation finished, no error reported
[18:23] <EriC^^> givello: update-grub
[18:24] <givello> right
[18:24] <EriC^^> givello: check /var/log/syslog btw, is there anything new there?
[18:24] <givello> EriC^^: done
[18:24] <givello> EriC^^: let me pastebin that
[18:25] <givello> EriC^^: nothing new since the 27th
[18:25] <EriC^^> ok
[18:27] <EriC^^> givello: did you mention fixparts before?
[18:27] <givello> fixparts?
[18:27] <givello> EriC^^: I don't know what fixparts mean
[18:27] <EriC^^> givello: nevermind
[18:27] <givello> EriC^^: I'll have to go soon, so I guess now I should try rebooting
[18:28] <givello> EriC^^: and if it works, yay, if it doesn't, I'll see you in a few hours?
[18:28] <EriC^^> givello: ok, give it a shot
[18:28] <EriC^^> ok
[18:28] <givello> EriC^^: right, let's try it
[18:29] <reisio> Xubook: /media/ is the mount point
[18:29] <reisio> Xubook: check sudo lsblk -f for the /dev name
[18:29] <smrtz|work> bynarie: here's some information I gathered from when I was on the native OS: sprunge.us/caTh  I need to shrink the root partition.
[18:29] <reisio> Xubook: you also needn't reboot
[18:30] <pzkpfw> Could anyone recommend a good gui system monitor that shows the activity of processes like the Win7 resource manager?
[18:31] <reisio> pzkpfw: don't cross post :/
[18:31] <givello> EriC^^: no change at all.
[18:31] <givello> EriC^^: I'll get back to you when I'm back from the bar :D
[18:31] <bynarie> pzkpfw, task manager
[18:31] <smrtz|work> Would someone mind helping me fix a partitioning problem please?  sprunge.us/caTh  I'm currently in a live environment, and I think I need to shrink my root partition?
[18:32] <bynarie> yes you need to shrink it.. but u said u couldnt right??
[18:32] <smrtz|work> bynarie: I cannot, bynarie
[18:32] <bynarie> ok
[18:32] <bynarie> goto ##linux
[18:33] <bynarie> maybe someone there could help
[18:33] <spaztik> Which VNC/Remote Session is suggested these days?
[18:33] <bynarie> lots of activity in that room
[18:33] <spaztik> Been using splashtop on windows and it's amazing, but their desktop client for linux blows
[18:33] <bynarie> spaztik, i use vnc4server and tightvnc
[18:33] <smrtz|work> bynarie: here's what I see in parted:  http://sprunge.us/SXBG
[18:34] <smrtz|work> bynarie: ok, thanks.
[18:35] <kahtahs_> how suitable would xfs be as root filesystem in trusty? at least kernel and grub2 seem to support it and installer let's you choose xfs as / under do something else.
[18:36] <S3thc0n> Hello, I am trying to use apt-get update on 14.04 server, but it is unable to connect, although I can ping the adresses.
[18:36] <reisio> kahtahs_: 's'fine
[18:37] <Axeman> okay - i've gotten further
[18:37] <Axeman> error on line 198 of /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/openssl-1.0.0.cnf
[18:37] <Axeman> 139779246384800:error:0E065068:configuration file routines:STR_COPY:variable has no value:conf_def.c:618:line 198
[18:37] <Axeman> when i issue ./build-ca
[18:37] <Xubook> reisio Does this look better? sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=1024 | gzip > bar.dd.gz
[18:38] <reisio> Xubook: yup
[18:38] <FilthyMacNasty> use clonezilla
[18:38] <smrtz|work> bynarie: PM'd
[18:38] <reisio> Xubook: might replace bar.dd.gz with usbstick20141029.dd.gz
[18:38] <kahtahs_> so it does boot up with xfs as root, but not sure how well error-checking is built-in. for example in dmesg i've seen: "FAT-fs (/dev/sda1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck." but /dev/sda1 is the xfs partition not fat
[18:39] <reisio> kahtahs_: did it used to be fat?
[18:39] <Xubook> reisio Good, Thanks for your help.  After running the script getting output from terminal is taking a while.
[18:39] <genii> kahtahs_: Likely the partition descriptor is fat
[18:39] <reisio> Xubook: you won't get any
[18:40] <reisio> Xubook: if you want some output, sudo apt-get install pv (from universe), then make it dd if=whatever bs=1024 | pv | gzip > whatever
[18:41] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs /dev/sda1".
[18:41] <kahtahs_> reisio: no, did dd/dev/zero and a standard trusty install before. so was ext4
[18:41] <pzkpfw> htop
[18:41] <pzkpfw> atop
[18:41] <reisio> Xubook: or run this elsewhere: while(true); do kill -USR1 $(pgrep -x dd); sleep 10s; done
[18:41] <pzkpfw> swag
[18:41] <pzkpfw> gucci
[18:41] <Pici> pzkpfw: please stop
[18:41] <reisio> kahtahs_: what does /etc/fstab say about it?
[18:41] <potatoes_> how can I pipe an attachment to send out through email
[18:41] <reisio> kahtahs_: why'd you dd/dev/zero ?
[18:42] <potatoes_> similar to like cat something | mail -s "tes..." email@ddy.com
[18:42] <kahtahs_> reisio: bad sectors
[18:43] <reisio> bad sectors, that's not a hardware issue?
[18:43] <FilthyMacNasty> sure is
[18:43] <reisio> then zeroing won't help
[18:43] <reisio> and for that matter, zeroing doesn't usually help :)
[18:44] <reisio> not the way people think it does
[18:44] <FilthyMacNasty> get spinrite it will move the data from the bad sectors and mark them bad
[18:44] <reisio> why spend the time, just replace the drive
[18:44] <FilthyMacNasty> R/R the drive is the best method
[18:45] <kahtahs_> reisio: it does. makes it possible to reallocate those bad sectors: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html
[18:45] <reisio> FilthyMacNasty: R/R?
[18:45] <reisio> kahtahs_: waste of time
[18:45] <FilthyMacNasty> remove and replace
[18:45] <reisio> FilthyMacNasty: ah, indeed :)
[18:45] <reisio> no point investing in something that already has a history of failing
[18:45] <FilthyMacNasty> buy a terabyte, its cheap now
[18:46] <reisio> I think the best byte-per-dollar is more around 3TB now, but
[18:46] <reisio> you might spread your cash around a bit
[18:46] <reisio> if you are on a budget
[18:46] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs /dev/sda1". I understand that this command looks destructive, so you should definitely read the manual and confirm for yourself that it is not before running it, but please don't just ignore my request.
[18:46] <kahtahs_> Jordan_U: can't i just display the signature?
[18:48] <kahtahs_> FilthyMacNasty: it costs money and that old machine isn't really worth it. smart still deems that hdd useable
[18:48] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: If the output of that command is only one line, then you don't need to use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com if that's what you're asking. If that's not what you're asking, then I don't understand the question.
[18:49] <FilthyMacNasty> kahtahs_: then I would recommend running spinrite on it
[18:49] <studentttu> Hello. Im using a USB soundcard and for some reason the left and right sounds are mixed up. Is there a way to change them in ubuntu?
[18:49] <studentttu> I dont have the same problem in windows
[18:50] <FilthyMacNasty> heh, switch your speakers about
[18:50] <studentttu> Im using headphones which are very uncomfortable if I turn them the wrong way
[18:51] <flexus> i need java applets in chromium or firefox, how does it work ?
[18:51] <kahtahs_> FilthyMacNasty: which part of spinrite?
[18:51] <qengho> flexus: you must use Firefox for a while.
[18:51] <FilthyMacNasty> the repair
[18:52] <bynarie> studentttu, everyting working OK?
[18:52] <bynarie> other than sound
[18:53] <flexus> doesnt work in firefox too
[18:53] <studentttu> bynarie:  yeah everything else is good :D thans for help
[18:53] <bynarie> great np
[18:53] <studentttu> bynarie:  just weird that sounds are mixed like that
[18:53] <bynarie> yea it is wierd... have you checked all of your sound mixers and whatnot?
[18:53] <qengho> flexus: I suspect installing "default-jre" and running Firefox should be enough.
[18:53] <reisio> flexus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin
[18:54] <flexus> qengho: will try the apt package
[18:54] <studentttu> bynarie:  yeah, everything works fine in windows. It's just some weird ubuntu thing, and there is no setting i can find to change them.  Tried this too :  http://askubuntu.com/questions/111523/how-can-you-reverse-left-and-right-speakers-from-a-control-panel  but didnt work. Also tried this
[18:55] <Jordan_U> studentttu: Please file a bug report about this by running "ubuntu-bug -s audio".
[18:56] <Jordan_U> studentttu: I think those particular instructions swap the right and left channel for sound card '0' only, which is probably your internal sound card.
[18:56] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  is it considered a mixer problem?
[18:57] <Adephit> what is the easy server to install in ubuntu trysty: lubuntu to access the server?
[18:57] <studentttu> or none of the above
[18:57] <Adephit> with ssh connection
[18:58] <FilthyMacNasty> ubuntu server 14.04
[18:58] <teward> Adephit: ubuntu server 14.04, plus openssh-server on it so you can SSH in
[18:58] <reisio> Adephit: eh?
[18:58] <kahtahs_> Jordan_U: wipefs output: " 0x0                  xfs   [filesystem]"
[18:58] <Adephit> what openssh-server?
[18:59] <FilthyMacNasty> sudo apt-get install ssh
[18:59] <Jordan_U> kahtahs_: OK, that confirms that you don't have any FAT signatures on that filesystem.
[18:59] <Adephit> teward
[19:01] <Adephit> i have the lubuntu installed, but cant access it
[19:01] <He4dShOt> hello
[19:01] <Adephit> i need a server to access it
[19:02] <He4dShOt> lately ubuntu freezes
[19:02] <He4dShOt> and I can't understand why
[19:02] <He4dShOt> there is nothing in syslog
[19:03] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  I did the report, but I dont think anyone is going to understand what is wrong because the sounds work correctly otherwise except that right and left are switched and there wasnt an option for comments or left/right problems
[19:03] <studentttu> So I couldnt explain the problem
[19:03] <studentttu> o_o
[19:04] <Jordan_U> studentttu: How did you file a bug report? There is most certainly an area for comments and a detailed description on launchpad bug reports.
[19:04] <kahtahs_> anyway how's xfs error-checking integrated into trusty? random google says it never does xfs_repair automatically?
[19:04] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  weird, I didnt get any link opened or anything it just said bug report sent
[19:05] <Jordan_U> studentttu: It should have opened a browser window asking you to add more information.
[19:05] <erle-> mp4/h264/aac videos don't play in my current utopic (current updates, no proposed updates)
[19:05] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  it opened a log in windows for ubuntu one and I created an account but nothing else happened after login
[19:05] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  should I make a new report?
[19:06] <studentttu> *log in window
[19:07] <Jordan_U> studentttu: Yes please.
[19:08] <Adephit> anyone can help me using a server to access the lubuntu desktom with ssh. thanks
[19:08] <Adephit> I have installed the lubuntu + vnc4server. but in vnc appears a gray screen,what do i have to change here ~/.vnc/xstartup : http://pastebin.com/QF61inzy  Thanks.
[19:08] <Adephit> or this....
[19:09] <Adephit> do you knowwhat is wrong?
[19:09] <Adephit> thanks
[19:10] <studentttu> Jordan_U:  okay it should be there now
[19:11] <Jordan_U> studentttu: Please post a link to the bug report so that I can follow it.
[19:15] <flexus> qengho: reisio thx very much both of you, the ice plugin on firefox worked for me. great
[19:15] <pzkpfw> can htop monitor network traffic by processes?
[19:15] <qengho> flexus: welcome
[19:16] <kahtahs_> pzkpfw: no, that's something for nethogs
[19:18] <studentttu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1387326
[19:19] <canaima> google
[19:20] <Jordan_U> studentttu: I would try asking in #pulseaudio (note that you might have to wait many hours, or even a day, for a response as it's a small channel).
[19:20] <studentttu> okay
[19:23] <ses1984> is there a simple way to get ubuntu desktop to use network authentication against an ubuntu server? i also would like all the clients to share the same user to UID and group to GID mappings
[19:23] <potatoes_> I'm having an issue with Cron, I have a script I made scheduled to run however it doesn't find the paths correctly, or working directory, is there some way I can fix this so it runs it like I would be running from the CLI?
[19:24] <potatoes_> it's driving me bonkers
[19:24] <Jordan_U> potatoes_: Please pastebin your script and your crontab.
[19:24] <rberg> potatoes_:  you can set the path in your script
[19:24] <potatoes_> berg, I have it set to /tmp/stale
[19:25] <potatoes_> and my crontab is just your run of the mill * * * * * /tmp/stale/stale.sh
[19:26] <rberg> potatoes_: you have the path set to /tmp/stale? are redefining PATH all together?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> potatoes_: Please pastebin your script.
[19:27] <potatoes_> Jordan_U":  i wish I could but its copyrighted :(
[19:27] <potatoes_> and closed
[19:27] <potatoes_> my employer would kill me
[19:28] <potatoes_> oh crap
[19:28] <potatoes_> i think i fixed it..
[19:28] <potatoes_> i just added cd $WORKING_DIRECTORY
[19:28] <potatoes_> lol
[19:29] <Nao> Bonsoir
[19:29] <ooloo> Once again, there's nothing wrong with ubuntu, and it's working just fine. What do I do?
[19:30] <geirha> potatoes_: don't forget to check that cd succeeded, e.g. by adding   || exit   after it
[19:30] <Jordan_U> potatoes_: Hopefully you actually added something with proper quoting of variable expansions, like: cd "$WORKING_DIRECTORY"
[19:31] <potatoes_> geirha: you live everywhere
[19:31] <potatoes_> geirha: where do you not idle!
[19:33] <geirha> Don't worry, I'm just stalking you
[19:33] <potatoes_> There could be worse people stalking me
[19:34] <potatoes_> so I'm not worried honestly :)
[19:35] <bean1020> does anyone know how to improve batterylife with ubuntu?
[19:35] <bean1020> I have a hp-sleekbook-15
[19:35] <bean1020> and battery life isn't where I want it to be wondering if I could do anything to improve it?
[19:36] <Jordan_U> bean1020: Ensure that you have good graphics drivers installed, and try running "powertop".
[19:36] <potatoes_> buy a macbook :)
[19:36] <Jelle_> Hello guys. At the moment I got my Ubuntu server up and running, but I have to install the server-software for Jira. I followed the following tutorial: https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Installing+JIRA+on+Linux , altho at step 2.1 I need to execute a .sh file, but I get the 'Command not found' error. I hope someone can help me out :)
[19:36] <bean1020> potatoes_,  lol yes a macbook lol
[19:36] <Goldwing> Q: i have a SIP phone that is using a VLAN that i can't remember. i did a full reset but the VLAN setting remains.
[19:36] <bean1020> Jordan_U, how can I make sure I have the right graphics driver installed?
[19:36] <ddd1970> ciao
[19:37] <ddd1970> !list
[19:37] <Goldwing> I do see the IP on the display, how can i figure out what VLAN it's using?
[19:37] <Eleuin> sudo sh ./file_name_of_shell_script.sh
[19:37] <Jordan_U> bean1020: If you have an intel card, then you can just assume you do. If you have an ATI or Nvidia card, then to get proper power managemant support you may need to install proprietary drivers.
[19:38] <Jelle_> Eleuin: Then I get a super huge error. Jira support told me that I shouldn't use sh, but just use the script
[19:38] <bean1020> Jordan_U, I have an intel card so should be good there, what can I do with powertop?
[19:39] <Eleuin> Jelle_ try right clicking, then properties -> Permissions -> Allow executing file as program
[19:39] <jonmorehouse> does anyone know how to install uuidgen?
[19:39] <jonmorehouse> I've tried e2fsprogs ... and am not getting it?
[19:40] <Jordan_U> bean1020: Powertop is a command that will find different things that tend to use up power, like processes waking up the CPU, and gives you recommendations for eliminating those things.
[19:40] <Jelle_> Eleuin: I only have command line ubuntu. Can't get my VNC working :/
[19:42] <Eleuin> you have cd'd into the directory that housed the file, right?
[19:42] <Jelle_> Yeah, when i ls I can see the file.. :/
[19:42] <fatalrhmer91> heloo
[19:43] <lonewulf85> Hey in the default wallpaper selection for Ubuntu 14.04 there is one that changes every so often. Is there a way I can set up my own wallpaper packedge to do the same thing?
[19:43] <Eleuin> Jelle_ can you post the terminal result on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:43] <Eleuin> or is that not possible right now?
[19:44] <Jelle_> yeah one second :)
[19:44] <Eleuin> its a lot easier when i can see the error output :3
[19:44] <Jelle_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8736982/  here you are
[19:44] <Eleuin> thx m8
[19:44] <Jelle_> Yeah I suppose so, but I didn't know if I could post screenshots or such :D
[19:45] <Goldwing> Q: i have a SIP phone that is using a VLAN that i can't remember. i did a full reset but the VLAN setting remains. I do see the IP on the display, how can i figure out what VLAN it's using?
[19:46] <Eleuin> Jelle_: maybe try sh ./start-jira.sh
[19:46] <Jelle_> Too bad, already tried that too :/ I'm really confused
[19:47] <genii> Goldwing: How is this an Ubuntu support question?
[19:49] <Eleuin> Jelle_ can you paste me java -version
[19:49] <Jelle_> Eleuin from the output?
[19:49] <Eleuin> yep
[19:51] <Jelle_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8737056/
[19:53] <Jelle_> Oh wait I think I just found a better error, one second
[19:53] <Jelle_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8737079/
[19:53] <a_> hi guys, does someone own a thinkpad with ubuntu server? If so, how did you get the sound working?
[19:55] <k1l> a_: what? thinkpad with ubuntu server?
[19:57] <a_> k1l: hi, do you mean if I use a thinkpad with ubuntu server?
[19:59] <OerHeks> a_, that was your question. it can be done, alsa sound on a server
[19:59] <Jelle_> Eleuin , got any idea about that java error?
[19:59] <OerHeks> http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/03/ubuntu-server-install-alsa-sound-and-moc-music-on-console/
[19:59] <k1l> a_: yes. just to make sure. because with a desktop running it should be no issue at all.
[19:59] <a_> OerHeks: beste OerHeks, thank you for your reply
[19:59] <Eleuin> it really looks like java is your problem Jelle_
[20:00] <k1l> a_: but with alsa/pulseaudio it should work. but i am not familiar what there needs to be done on a server
[20:00] <Jelle_> Any idea on what I could do to fix that Eleuin? It's a brand new ubuntu server actually
[20:01] <a_> k1l: yes, it is true that the desktop edition doesnt give any issues about this subject. However, I prefer to use a minimalist OS without fancy GUI stuff
[20:02] <k1l> a_: that is all fine. its just uncommon in this channel :) but with installing alsa/pulseaudio (like its used on desktops) that should do
[20:03] <tannji> Has anyone heard of a problem with Ubuntu 14.10 having blurry text in windows, seemingly when they lose focus?
[20:03] <smrtz|work> I fixed my partitioning problem, but I'm still getting the same error: sprunge.us/TWLF  How can I tell lvcreate to create it on the Storage partition?
[20:03] <a_> k1l: ok :-)
[20:04] <Jelle_> Eleuin Do you have any idea to fix that java problem? :/
[20:05] <Eleuin> you would have to edit the amount of RAM allocated to java
[20:06] <ckdot> @ all german guys here... i like to invite you to the aboutyou.de hackathon. we gonna pay everything for you (hotel, food). it's on 8th/9th november. if you like just contact me.
[20:06] <smrtz|work> bynarie: I was able to fix that problem.
[20:06] <Eleuin> think its something like java -Xm<amount>M -Xs<amount>M but i am not entirely sure
[20:12] <after_r> ubuntu hotel! :)
[20:13] <devhost> Is there a way to identify which idiot changed the permissions of a file on our server? I'm on sudoer but can't read /home as it's locked down by NIC which I don't have access too.
[20:13] <devhost> I mean that I can't read user's home directories and thus .bash_history
[20:13] <EriC^^> devhost: you can try /var/log/authlog
[20:14] <EriC^^> *auth.log
[20:14] <devhost> Would that have information about chmod usage?
[20:14] <OerHeks> devhost, did you encrypt /home/ ?
[20:14] <EriC^^> if he used sudo the command should be there
[20:14] <devhost> OerHeks: It's not /home it's the users folders within /home that I don't have access too.
[20:15] <EriC^^> devhost: you don't have sudo?
[20:15] <devhost> I have sudo on this machine
[20:15] <devhost> I cannot touch the files within /home because they aren't there
[20:15] <devhost> they are on a NIC
[20:15] <smrtz|work> Is there an easy way I can delete a logical volume in the same physical volume as my mounted root directory?
[20:15] <devhost> and I don't have access to that
[20:16] <devhost> just realized this machine is actually CentOS. :(
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Please define your use of "NIC".
[20:16] <devhost> no /var/log/auth.log
[20:16] <EriC^^> devhost: try secure
[20:16] <EriC^^> /var/log/secure
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Try /var/log/secure
[20:16] <EriC^^> something like that
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> EriC^^: You got it.
[20:17] <devhost> Our NIC syncs userspace with a machine, I'm not the IT here. I'm just the admin of this one server.
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Why are you talking about network cards?
[20:18] <devhost> I'm not.
[20:18] <Naphatul> how do i set dhclient not to do arp probing?
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> devhost: Then please explain what "NIC" means in your context.
[20:18] <devhost> I don't really know how this NIC thing works. I just don't have access to userspace.
[20:18] <devhost> It's all managed on another server.
[20:19] <devhost> It's tangent really to the issue.
[20:20] <devhost> Nothing in /var/log/secure I guess.
[20:20] <EriC^^> devhost: check root's .bash_history then
[20:21] <devhost> hmm
[20:21] <devhost> Good point
[20:21] <EriC^^> must be in one unless he killed the terminal before bash wrote the history, or erased the secure logs
[20:21] <devhost> Might be root, but I can't check other users bash_history
[20:21] <devhost> That's what I was trying to say.
[20:22] <EriC^^> could be in root, worth a shot
[20:23] <flexus> reisio: the weasle plugin worked at first, after starting another java app it didnt work anymore
[20:24] <Naphatul> is it even possible to disable arp probing on dhclient?
[20:25] <devhost> EriC^^: found it, thanks, he must of assumed root and ran the command
[20:25] <vfw> Naphatul: I may be late to the conversation, but; Why?
[20:26] <Naphatul> vfw, it's a local network it's not much use, i'd preffer the few seconds faster connect time
[20:26] <flexus> got this error in console at icedtea: http://paste.debian.net/129295/
[20:26] <qengho> Naphatul: I think the server might use arp, but I don't think the client does.
[20:29] <Naphatul> qengho, rfc spec says client should check the address received, at least that's how i understand it
[20:29] <Naphatul> i'm pretty sure this indeed happen and made a small difference a while back but i don't remember much
[20:29] <qengho> Naphatul: Okay, but that doesn't mean your client is doing it.
[20:30] <qengho> Naphatul: Have any "tcpdump" log that shows it happening?
[20:30] <vfw> Naphatul: Is this your home network?
[20:30] <Naphatul> vfw, yes
[20:30] <Naphatul> qengho, no i figured i might look for the option first, turning it off won't harm anything
[20:31] <vfw> Naphatul: How about just static IP?
[20:32] <qengho> Naphatul: Oh, but you're not looking. You're asking us.
[20:32] <Naphatul> qengho, i went through all the man pages for dhclient and didn't find anything
[20:32] <Naphatul> vfw, that's a possiblity
[20:33] <vfw> Naphatul: Yea, that's what I do.  That way, I know where evertying is.
[20:33] <Naphatul> i was hoping to keep name resolution since the router is doing it anyway and doesn't work for static adresses
[20:33] <qengho> vfw: I just put clients in my DHCP server, so I know where they are too, all in one place.
[20:34] <vfw> Naphatul: And if you know there won't be any other clients, you could even trun off the DHCP server on the router.
[20:34] <Naphatul> vfw, well there will be new clients, it's just that the router is set to give this mac adress the same ip every time
[20:34] <OTR> turn of DHCP
[20:34] <OTR> lol
[20:34] <vfw> Naphatul: And what is wrong with that?
[20:35] <vfw> OTR: Why not?
[20:35] <OTR> why yes?
[20:35] <Naphatul> it still uses dhcp but just gives it the same address, pretty sure it has to go through the same steps since the client doesn't know that
[20:35] <vfw> OTR: If you don't need it, turn it off.
[20:35] <OTR> but you need it
[20:36] <vfw> Naphatul: So at this point you are using static assigned DHCP list on the router.  Right?
[20:37] <OTR> unless you got to much time on your hands to configure every single ip by hand
[20:37] <Naphatul> vfw, for a few machines, yes
[20:37] <vfw> OTR: Not necessarily, you don't always need it.
[20:37] <Naphatul> but the majority aren't
[20:37] <OTR> are you talking about ipv6»
[20:38] <Naphatul> dhcpcd has a handy --noarp switch i was hoping dhclient had it too
[20:38] <vfw> Naphatul: Right, so just set the dhcp pool for others (guest clients), and set your own PC's to static IPs, (ones thar are outside the range of the DHCP pool).
[20:38] <vfw> OTR: No, (but it wouldn't matter).  If you have clients set to static IPs, you don't need the dhcp server and so you can just turn it off.
[20:39] <OTR> doesnt static ips defeat the pourpose of net?
[20:39] <OTR> nat
[20:39] <vfw> OTR: In the event you do have a guest that wants to enter the network, you just give them IP information that you want them to use.
[20:40] <vfw> OTR: No
[20:40] <Naphatul> totally different things
[20:40] <vfw> OTR: It does not defeat the purpose of net or nat
[20:40] <vfw> Naphatul: Agreed.
[20:41] <OTR> yes you just like to give people something to waste time on
[20:41] <vfw> OTR: (This conversation is not about NAT.)
[20:41] <OTR> instead of leting the machine do the work
[20:41] <lelamal> Hi all! When I check for updates, on Muon Update Manager, I'm told a new version of Kubuntu is available. Then I click on Upgrade, enter my password, but nothing happens. I try to copy/paste the command from the popup window on a termianl, and this is what it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8737605/
[20:41] <vfw> OTR: Are you sure your comment is relevant?
[20:42] <OTR> i guess thats a mater of opinion
[20:42] <vfw> lelamal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:43] <Naphatul> lelamal, can you try "LC_ALL=C do-release-upgrade" ?
[20:43] <matrixa1> Help! My Xubuntu 14.10 is charging my battery even though it's charged! Its ruining my battery!
[20:43] <vfw> matrixa1: How do you know?
[20:43] <matrixa1> vfw, because I'm checking the battery's charging/draining status
[20:43] <matrixa1> vfw, and this doesn't happen in windows
[20:44] <matrixa1> vfw, at 91% it says "fully charged", then drops to 90% and says "11 minutes util fully charged"
[20:45] <Jelle_> how can I check if my server got a firewall running? I Can't seem to connect to an application running on my server :/
[20:45] <vfw> Jelle_: nmap
[20:45] <bubbasaures> matrixa1, A windows comparison is empty rhetoric here is all.
[20:45] <ikonia> nmap doesn't tell if you have a firewall
[20:45] <lelamal> Naphatul: same output
[20:45] <vfw> ikonia: But it tells if a port is blocked or not.
[20:45] <matrixa1> bubbasaures, yeah, thank you, at least I can rule out that it's a hardware fault.......
[20:45] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[20:46] <ikonia> it shows one possible option
[20:46] <Jelle_> no idea what to look for in that output
[20:46] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know why some wifi networks in Ubuntu show as both 'somenetwork' and 'somenetwork1'?
[20:46] <vfw> ikonia: Do you have a better idea?
[20:46] <Naphatul> lelamal, can you try switching back to english while upgrading? i had weird issues myself when using localization
[20:46] <gac> ThePendulum: could be dual band, 2.4ghz + 5ghz?
[20:47] <vfw> Jelle_: It will tell you it is blocked.  (But you also have to know if there is a particular server listening on that port as well.)
[20:47] <Jelle_> Yeah, I'm using the correct port
[20:47] <gac> vfw: it won't tell you if it's blocked - it'll tell you whether it's accessible. just because it isn't accessible doesn't mean it's firewalled on the server
[20:47] <gac> could have crashed, could be running on localhost, could be not NATted
[20:47] <bubbasaures> matrixa1, What you may not know is that the battery makers do not provide firmware for linux any is, backward made.
[20:47] <Jelle_> well my browser just keeps loading the page, endlessly
[20:48] <ikonia> yes, use ufw or iptables to list the firewall rules
[20:48] <matrixa1> bubbasaures, that suddenly stops working after a 14.10 upgrade? I think not
[20:49] <alexgl> i need to move an option in grub, when in grub command mode, what can i do
[20:49] <Jelle_> so how do I check the firewall issues?
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: what is the application you are trying to run
[20:50] <Jelle_> JIRA
[20:50] <after_r> Hello... I was wondering is there a way to set up Linux so that it blocks network access to all programs by default, and then I have a config file that says things like "Application at /bin/myapp can access ip 12.12.12.12, Application at /bin/otherapp can access any ip, etc.."  ?
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: as in the sprint managment tool ?
[20:50] <vfw> Jelle_: It will say filtered if the firewall is blocking it.
[20:50] <Jelle_> yeah, that tool :)
[20:50] <after_r> and then only those applications would have access to the specified apps
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: ok, so that should be running on port 80
[20:50] <after_r> I mean specified addresses
[20:50] <ikonia> as it's a web interface
[20:50] <ikonia> Jelle_: are you talking about connecting to the web interface or the web interface to the database ?
[20:50] <ThePendulum> gac: I'm pretty certain all our networks here are 2.4GHz only atm
[20:51] <stetho> Jira runs on 8080 by default
[20:51] <gac> vfw: filtered can mean many things though...if the machine responds to ping (i.e. a NAT gateway) but the port isn't open (i.e. not portforwarded) you'll still get a filtered response if there is no filter on the server
[20:51] <ThePendulum> gac: Confirmed by a quick scan with my phone :P
[20:51] <vfw> Jelle_: For instance, "80/tcp open  http" vs "80/tcp filtered http"
[20:51] <Jelle_> Should be 8080..
[20:51] <bubbasaures> matrixa1, You "think not" is the key phrase honestly.
[20:51] <ikonia> Jelle_: ok, so you're trying to run it on port 8080
[20:51] <ikonia> Jelle_: so by default ubuntu firewall should be blocking that
[20:51] <Jelle_> ikonia: I'm just setting my server up, so it is the initial setup
[20:51] <matrixa1> bubbasaures, thanks for your help
[20:51] <ikonia> Jelle_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[20:52] <ikonia> Jelle_: that should help you
[20:52] <Zta> Anyone ever install Ubuntu on a Macbook pro for single boot -- ie. no MacOS?  I'm wondering if I *must* make a EFI boot partition?  Or is it enough with simply a root paritition.
[20:52] <Naphatul> matrixa1, you might have a better shot asking #xubuntu, or/and report a bug
[20:53] <chick> Hi im using ubuntu14 and my top bar has disappeared. I cant see my network status or power status and other notifications How do i bring the bar back up please?
[20:53] <stetho> Jelle_: I've just joined the channel so missed the original question. If you've installed Jira on Ubuntu server using the binary it just works.
[20:53] <Jelle_> I typed ufw enable and now the firewall is enabled, so it was disabled before?
[20:53] <ikonia> Jelle_: no, it's enabled by default
[20:53] <Jelle_> stetho: Yeah I just installed jira on my server, but I can't connect to it in my browser
[20:54] <stetho> Did you install it using the .bin installer?
[20:54] <ikonia> ufw will block 8080 by default
[20:54] <ikonia> so a.) make sure it's running b.) make sure the firewall is open
[20:54] <Jelle_> Yeah
[20:55] <vfw> gac: Not ture, far as I can tell. Not with iptables anyway.
[20:55] <Jelle_> I think it is running, And i just tried 'sudo ufw enable 8080' but still not working
[20:55] <vfw> gac: I just tested with iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j DRO
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: "think" it's running isn't a check
[20:55] <vfw> P
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: verify it's running
[20:55] <gac> vfw: maybe not, but there are certainly network configurations which will bring up "filtered" when there's no firewall running on the server
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: verify you can connect to it locally
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: that isn't the right syntax
[20:55] <ikonia> Jelle_: READ the page
[20:56] <stetho> service jira status
[20:56] <vfw> gac: Can you give me an example...?
[20:56] <Jelle_> service jira status is just giving me this: 'Usage: /etc/init.d/jira {start|stop}'
[20:56] <gac> not right now as i can't remember the last box that i saw like it - i thought it was when a ping response worked but a connection didn't
[20:56] <OTR> why dont router come with a proxie built in?
[20:56] <Jelle_> Oh and Ikonia, I did read it :P
[20:56] <gac> but obviously not that, as you've tested
[20:56] <ikonia> Jelle_: you didn't read it
[20:56] <ikonia> Jelle_: or you wouldn't be typing in non-existant commands
[20:57] <ikonia> as that page gives you examples
[20:57] <stetho> OK, /etc/init.d/jira stop and then /etc/init.d/jira start && tail -f /var/log/syslog
[20:57] <OTR> why dont routers come with a proxie built in?
[20:57] <ikonia> Jelle_: a.) verify it's running b.) verify the firewall will allow the connection externally
[20:57] <stetho> OTR: Would need a faster processor and therefore make them more expensive.
[20:58] <acerspyro> http://i.imgur.com/3mhNFup.png Some windows appear skewed to the right when maximized, but mouse aiming is still in relation to where the window should be. Seen with Blender and Chromium so far, anyone knows what's going on?
[20:58] <Jelle_> ikonia: I don't see anything about what you're saying it doesn't exist?
[20:58] <vfw> There are a number of ways to test a port for repsonse and sometimes it would depend on what port/server it is.
[20:58] <ikonia> Jelle_: nowhere in that page does it say "sudo ufy enable 8080"
[20:58] <OTR> new routers have better cpus that my 10 years old desktop
[20:58] <ikonia> OTR: not really interested in router discussion in here
[20:58] <ThePendulum> Every application trying to access our NAS on all accounts but mine on this laptop freezes. Any ideas how to start figuring this out? It's using cifs
[20:58] <Jelle_> oh a typo sorry, I did allow of course
[20:58] <ikonia> Jelle_: so a.) verify it's running - then move forward
[20:59] <Jelle_> well when I type GET / in my terminal, it is giving me output. Jira support told me that makes sure it is running
[21:00] <Fleuv> histo, I've just completely re-installed apache still I'm able to access one of my old hosts which i can't find in my "/etc/hosts" file where can I find or how can I remove this host(s)?
[21:00] <Fleuv> lal histo -> Hi :)
[21:00] <ikonia> Jelle_ so if you do "telnet localhost 8080" do you get a socket ?
[21:00] <Jelle_> yep
[21:00] <Jelle_> should I try restarting jira?
[21:00] <stetho> OTR: Do you really think a ten year old desktop is a good point of reference? My watch has a better processor than a ten year old computer.
[21:01] <ikonia> Jelle_: no need for that
[21:01] <OTR> proxies worked back then
[21:01] <ikonia> Jelle_: you know you have $something listening
[21:01] <ikonia> Jelle_: so what do you see if you do lesmith@68-184-130-106.dhcp.stbr.ga.charter.com] has quit [Read error:
[21:01] <ikonia> oops
[21:01] <ikonia> sudo ufw status
[21:01] <ikonia> (use a pastebin for the output)
[21:02] <gac> proxies work now, not sure of your point...
[21:02] <acerspyro> Is it that people don't notice my question or is it that noone knows the answer?
[21:02] <vfw> Jelle_: You might use netstat on the server to see if you have what you thing you have.
[21:02] <OTR> i mean proxies are so usefull i m amazed why router dont have them builtin
[21:02] <vfw> Jelle_: netstat -pantu
[21:02] <Jelle_> i get: Status: active, and 8080 Action allow and from anywhere
[21:03] <ikonia> OTR last warning - we do not want router talk in here
[21:03] <Jelle_> yeah netstat is also giving me 8080 'listen'
[21:03] <ikonia> Jelle_: ok, so you know a.) your server is listening on 8080 b.) your server is allowing connections to 8080
[21:03] <ikonia> Jelle_: so what's your client doing ?
[21:03] <vfw> Jelle_: And what did nmap say about it?
[21:03] <OTR> how do i setup proxie on my ubuntu?
[21:03] <Jelle_> I'm trying to connect to it in the browser, but it is just not loading
[21:03] <Fleuv> acerspyro, im not familiar with these kind of problems also I dont know the answer, sorry.
[21:04] <acerspyro> :(
[21:04] <Jelle_> vfw: hmm, nmap? I missed that one
[21:04] <ikonia> OTR what type of proxy
[21:04] <gac> OTR: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/squid.html would be a good starting piont, assuming you mean a web proxy
[21:04] <Fleuv> acerspyro: Are you able to fix it temporarily?
[21:04] <OTR> should i run a ubuntu server install on a vm and route all traffic thru it?
[21:04] <vfw> Jelle_: From the client:  nmap -p 8080 192.168.x.x
[21:04] <acerspyro> Fleuv: ?
[21:05] <Fleuv> Or do you have to close the whole program
[21:05] <Jelle_> vfw: so just my own terminal on my computer?
[21:05] <ikonia> OTR why ?
[21:05] <acerspyro> It only does it when maximized, it doesn't do it if it's windowed
[21:05] <ikonia> OTR: what benifit would that give you ?
[21:05] <vfw> OTR: squid
[21:06] <Fleuv> acerspyro: Any other strange symptoms occur?
[21:06] <OTR> to have a private network
[21:06] <Jelle_> Wait I tried connecting to it, and now it is working! Awesome :D
[21:06] <vfw> OTR: And to filter content that you don't want... etc...
[21:06] <OTR> not having the desktop facing the internet
[21:06] <acerspyro> Fleuv: Well, as I said, the mouse pointing still relates to the normal position of the window rather than the buggy one currently shown
[21:07] <OTR> yes filter
[21:07] <acerspyro> And, maybe that's not related, but trying to alt + tab in a fullscreen window screws up
[21:07] <whoppaz13> Hello
[21:07] <OTR> run adblock
[21:07] <Jelle_> Hmm, shouldn't have been so happy. When I click to the next page it isn't loading either :/
[21:07] <OTR> for eg
[21:08] <vfw> OTR: A proxy has it's uses, but only if the need is there would it be worth the touble to set on up.
[21:08] <OTR> block unwanted protocols
[21:08] <lelamal> Naphatul: ok, thanks, I'll try that!
[21:08] <acerspyro> I can interact with all the applications, I can do keybinds and everything, but the fullscreen program is taking up the whole screen, so I have to go back in that program via alt + tab, and either do Win + D before alt tabbing or ask the program to go windows.
[21:08] <Naphatul> OTR, usually people use a firewall for that, and i'm not sure what 'protocols' you wouldn't want
[21:09] <OTR> just the caching feature of proxie alone is a good enough reason
[21:09] <OTR> it could save like 50 percent of trafic
[21:09] <whoppaz13> I need help.  I have 2 installs of Ubuntu 14.04 on one hdd.  One that's functional and one that is not.  The non-functional one is Partition 1 and the functional one is Partition 6.  If I wipe out Partition 1, will I also lose the grub loader and not make it bootable anymore?
[21:10] <vfw> OTR: True, (it can cut down on outside triffic).
[21:10] <ikonia> I don't think you'll see much benifit at home
[21:10] <OTR> yes i will
[21:11] <Fleuv> acerspyro: My experience with full screen mode on ubuntu is that it sux on most multi platform compatible programs
[21:11] <Jordan_U> whoppaz13: You should always re-run grub-install after making any partition changes (it's not always strictly needed, but it's easier to just always do it than to determine if you need to or not).
[21:12] <Jordan_U> whoppaz13: You should also always have a LiveCD/USB handy in case something goes wrong.
[21:12] <acerspyro> Fleuv: Which is pretty much all programs available.
[21:12] <acerspyro> Because Blender does it when I alt-tab from it while it's fullscreened
[21:13] <Quatroking> does an open source client for skype exists?
[21:13] <acerspyro> Quatroking: Nope, the Skype protocol is closed
[21:13] <Fleuv> acerspyro: are you talking about fullscreen like watching youtube videos or playing games
[21:13] <Quatroking> ugh
[21:13] <acerspyro> Pidgin can connect to Skype, but you still need the Skype program
[21:13] <OerHeks> Skype core is closedsource, client can be open
[21:13] <Quatroking> the skype client on linux is outdated by over 2 years and is pathetic
[21:13] <whoppaz13> Thank you Jordan_U.  I will try it out.  Would it matter though that its all on the same physical drive?
[21:13] <acerspyro> Quatroking: Probably not a solid solution, but I recommend switching to Google Hangout.
[21:14] <vfw> whoppaz13: If you just need more space on the other partitions, you can just set partition 1 to a very small size, (like maybe only one or two meg), and that way, nothing will need to be changed.  But if you delete it, yes changes will need to be made so that your system will boot and run.
[21:14] <acerspyro> Fleuv: Fullscreen programs
[21:14] <whoppaz13> I like that idea even better, vfw.  Gparted good for that??
[21:14] <acerspyro> For example: Alt + F11 in Blender.
[21:14] <acerspyro> Try to Alt-Tab
[21:14] <rich_> skype is not just closed it is monitored telcom spyware.
[21:15] <vfw> whoppaz13: Yes.
[21:15] <acerspyro> rich_: That's off-scope, tho.
[21:15] <acerspyro> Fleuv: I use 14.10 btw, idk if I mentionned
[21:15] <vfw> vfw: I keep a gparted liveCD handy. http://gparted.org/download.php
[21:15] <Quatroking> holy hell when I click away skype it keeps running in the background with no way to open it up again without restarting the entire process
[21:15] <Quatroking> it doesn't even save my microsoft login
[21:15] <spaztik> damnit
[21:15] <Quatroking> jesus
[21:16] <acerspyro> Quatroking: 32-bit only
[21:16] <Fleuv> hiihi, nope acespyro but yes were talking about the same thing
[21:16] <OTR> you can do skype like chats using chrome now
[21:16] <whoppaz13> ok, cool. Thanks, vfw.  I appreciate the info!
[21:16] <OTR> so ive read
[21:16] <Quatroking> acerspyro, i installed the 12.04 multiarch deb tho
[21:16] <vfw> Quatroking: Yes, that is the way it works. You would have to kill the actual application.
[21:16] <reisio> Quatroking: sure it's not just in the tray?
[21:16] <lvleph> what is the new command for gnome-sound-applet in 14.10?
[21:16] <Quatroking> reisio, nope, it doesn't go to the tray
[21:16] <reisio> Quatroking: just use http://talky.io/ instead
[21:16] <vfw> Quatroking: pkill skype
[21:17] <gac> Quatroking: did you do it through dpkg by hand? or using apt/software center? there's a dependency required for skype tray icons to work in Unity, IIRC
[21:17] <acerspyro> reisio: What tray? Does Skype have any idea that Linux even had a tray?
[21:17] <jhutchins_wk> whoppaz13: The MBR is outside of the partition table, so changing partitions won't have any effect on Grub's first stages. If you chanage the number of partitions on the disk, though, partition 6 would become partiton 5, and Grub might not find it.  You can fix that by changing the location in the grub configuration, or by using UUIDs instead of device numbers.
[21:17] <reisio> acerspyro: yes it has
[21:17] <Quatroking> gac, software center
[21:17] <Naphatul> skype is a pain on windows let alone linux, dread every moment i have to use it
[21:17] <reisio> Skype actually relies on 100% GNU/Linux servers
[21:17] <acerspyro> LOL I KNEW IT!
[21:17] <reisio> MS bought Skype, its original creators were half sensible
[21:17] <acerspyro> They couldn't run it on Windows, they just couldn't. Stability issues.
[21:18] <reisio> acerspyro: I'm sure the original authors thought that
[21:18] <jhutchins_wk> OTR: GoogleTalk has had video for a while, but it's not quite as reliable as skype.
[21:18] <acerspyro> jhutchins_wk: It has video
[21:18] <acerspyro> It works perfectly, I use it commonly.
[21:18] <Fleuv> nah it works okay.
[21:18] <lvleph> what is the new command for gnome-sound-applet in 14.10?
[21:18] <Quatroking> installed sni-qt, now I got it in the tray
[21:18] <jhutchins_wk> acerspyro: Yeah, it's getting better, but some systems still have trouble with it.
[21:18] <Fleuv> Skype really could use some UI improvements in ubuntu
[21:19] <OTR> google buisness is spying the users
[21:19] <Quatroking> oh hey it actually logged in automatically now
[21:19] <reisio> why replace one proprietary trap with another one
[21:19] <gac> the problem with discussing alternatives to skype is that most of these aren't options as skype is where the subscribers are...
[21:19] <acerspyro> OTR: what isn't nowadays?
[21:19] <OTR> its as bad as NS
[21:19] <reisio> webrtc will kill them both
[21:19] <OTR> MS
[21:19] <jhutchins_wk> Fleuv: Not gonna happen, we're lucky they keep it up-to-date.
[21:19] <vfw> Fleuv: Tell Microsoft
[21:19] <jhutchins_wk> I think continued availablity for Linux is probably related to the need to provide it for Android.
[21:19] <vfw> Fleuv: Or, use google-talk
[21:20] <OTR> nobody uses netmeeting anymore :(
[21:20] <reisio> it's not as if it takes any particular effort to create a GNU/Linux package
[21:20] <reisio> and every Skype user on GNU/Linux they can advertize their own products to
[21:20] <vfw> jhutchins_wk: I don't think it depends on it, but it *is* a factor.
[21:21] <Quatroking> sometimes I feel naughty for hanging out here because I can't wait for Microsoft Techdays 2015
[21:21] <lagbox> hello .... does software updater not have a window anymore ? i can't only interact with it from the panel
[21:21] <acerspyro> gac: If noone ever switches, nothing will change.
[21:21] <reisio> Quatroking: free shrimp?
[21:21] <Adephit> hello, anyone knows about the php of ubuntu, its different from the debian right?  :-( I want to see some info in my info.php and cant see it.
[21:21] <ikonia> in what way different ?
[21:21] <Quatroking> reisio, damn straight! I can go to techdays for like 10 bucks because I'm a student
[21:21] <clouddig> I'm trying to follow this: http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html
[21:21] <ikonia> it's the same package set ?
[21:21] <lagbox> Adephit, what do you want to see ?
[21:21] <gac> acerspyro: oh yeah, agreed
[21:21] <Fleuv> Okay so Microsoft said, why did you even removed Windows?!
[21:21] <Quatroking> that's a discount of, like, 390 bucks?
[21:22] <vfw> lagbox: I just use CLI for updates.  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:22] <clouddig> I'm getting the error E: Unable to locate package openstack
[21:22] <reisio> heh
[21:22] <vfw> lagbox: (cut-to-the-chase)
[21:22] <reisio> Quatroking: it would be, if you weren't PAYING to be a student :p
[21:22] <clouddig> Any ideas?
[21:22] <ikonia> clouddig: it's not called open stack
[21:22] <ikonia> clouddig: there are many packages that make it up
[21:22] <ansivirus> Adephit, not sure i understand.. PHP is PHP.. if you want to see CLI php information just run php --version  or you can create a info.php and in there put <?php php_info();?>
[21:22] <OTR> you can install android on any x86 machine for free
[21:22] <Quatroking> reisio, I'm Dutch though, so actually I don't
[21:22] <ikonia> android is nothing to do with this channel
[21:22] <lagbox> yea i do as well from time to time .. just trying to figure out why software updater has updates but when i click the icon i dont get any window but i can access its features from right click
[21:22] <reisio> Quatroking: sure you do
[21:23] <clouddig> so those instructions are out of date?
[21:23] <Quatroking> yeah yeah, taxes and stuff
[21:23] <clouddig> ikonia: so those instructions aren't valid anymore?
[21:23] <reisio> Quatroking: you are quite sane, I like you :)
[21:23] <Adephit> i'm just testing: /var/www/info.php -> <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[21:23] <ikonia> clouddig: which instructions ?
[21:23] <ikonia> Adephit: whats the actual problem ?
[21:23] <lagbox> Adephit, and what seems to be the issue ?
[21:23] <ansivirus> Adephit, open browser and http://localhost/info.php
[21:23] <clouddig> http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html
[21:24] <ikonia> clouddig: not interested in thos instructions, they are not ubuntus docs
[21:24] <ikonia> clouddig: ask the guy who wrote them if they are still valid
[21:24] <ikonia> clouddig: looks like it depends on a PPA
[21:24] <clouddig> ikonia: oh. Are there Ubuntu specific docs to install Openstack?
[21:24] <ikonia> try https://help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com there maybe docs
[21:25] <test0> Hi, I used sudo kill -9 0"
[21:25] <ikonia> test0: why did you do that ?
[21:25] <Adephit> Not Found
[21:25] <Adephit> The requested URL /info.php was not found on this server.
[21:25] <Adephit>  apache server at <ip> Port 80
[21:25] <test0> to try to kill all processes
[21:25] <test0> but it didn't work
[21:26] <ikonia> test0: ok, so reboot and it will work again
[21:26] <ikonia> test0: you can't kill "all" processes
[21:26] <jhutchins_wk> OTR: Actually, android-on-x86 is highly dependent on the specific hardware you have.  It's not as modular and flexible as Linux, you need an image designed for your hardware.
[21:27] <k1l> test0: what do you want to do at all?
[21:27] <test0> well
[21:27] <jhutchins_wk> !lamp
[21:27] <lagbox> Adephit, sounds like apache isn't setup right
[21:27] <test0> i wanted to kill as many processes at once as possible
[21:27] <clouddig> ikonia: it seems that ubuntu gives similar instructions http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack, but they work (so far)
[21:27] <lagbox> test0, why ?
[21:27] <the-boss> hello?
[21:27] <test0> just to see if it's possible
[21:27] <test0> it it not?
[21:28] <lagbox> how about i just say no so you can stop your expirement
[21:28] <k1l> test0: no, that doesnt make sense
[21:28] <jhutchins_wk> test0: Generally there's no reason to be able to do that.
[21:28] <the-boss> what experiment ?
[21:28] <gac> Adephit: if you look in the apache error log (/var/log/apache2/error.log, maybe? i dunno the location) then it'll hopefully have some information on why it can't find your php file
[21:28] <wiak> any of you using supervisor?, i get "su: must be run from a terminal" error when i try to run rtorrent via it
[21:29] <the-boss> back to basics?
[21:29] <the-boss> man look at this,teaching the su command..
[21:29] <test0> well I used kill -9 `ps -eo pid` and it seemed to do something
[21:30] <ikonia> the-boss: drop it
[21:30] <ikonia> the-boss: help or be quiet
[21:30] <the-boss> what i can do for help?
[21:30] <ikonia> help with the question being asked
[21:30] <the-boss> ok..
[21:30] <the-boss> i was only jocking friend..
[21:31] <test0> i wondered if it was possible to make it simpler and kill 0 or kill -1 seemed to be supposed to do that
[21:31] <k1l> the-boss: please keep this channel clear for real ubuntu support. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[21:31] <lagbox> you want to kill all process ... shutdown -rn now
[21:31] <excognac> hi all, am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 but looks like http://pastebin.com/NaLfqBxc something i do wrong...
[21:32] <the-boss> i can solve these problems easily if you tell what the question here..
[21:32] <LucasTT> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/164631/computer-wont-restart-without-recovery-mode-and-mouse-is-flickering-after-i-add
[21:32] <k1l> excognac: why -d?
[21:32] <gac> excognac: you probably don't want -d, that seems to be only going for the next version up which is EOL and probably removed from the mirrors
[21:32] <test0> but if it's not possible to kill as many processes as possible then what does kill -9 `ps -eo pid` do? and yes turning it off kills the processes but i want to see what happens if you kill all the processes and leave it on
[21:33] <lagbox> nothing
[21:33] <excognac> gac:tz
[21:33] <excognac> *ty
[21:33] <ikonia> test0 the machine will hang
[21:33] <test0> i realize my question is probably rather silly but i thought it was technically possible
[21:33] <ikonia> test0: thats what will happen, test over
[21:33] <lagbox> yea expirement over
[21:34] <lagbox> you may want to reverse what you are doing if you are trying to find the "minimal" amount of processes
[21:34] <excognac> gac: same result wihout -d
[21:34] <lagbox> start from rc up
[21:34] <test0> so how do I do that? that's not what happens when i do sudo kill -9 `ps -eo pid`
[21:34] <Jordan_U> test0: If you want to talk more about this, please join #ubuntu-offtopic as it's not really a support question but more just having fun (which there's nothing wrong with, in the right channel :).
[21:34] <test0> ok
[21:34] <excognac> k1l: thanks but it doesn't work without -d either
[21:34] <gac> test0: your kill -9 command is probably killing the single pid that you're providing it. totally different thing
[21:35] <gac> excognac: is your 12.04 installation totally up to date?
[21:35] <k1l> excognac: run a "sudo apt-get update"
[21:36] <excognac> gac:I'm fullz updated yeah
[21:36] <excognac> *fullz
[21:36] <k1l> excognac: maybe the mirror is down. so if it doesnt work after the update try to set to another mirror or the main server
[21:36] <gac> no, the issue is that it's trying to update to 12.10 which is EOL, and not the latest LTS
[21:37] <gac> excognac: in your /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file, is the Prompt set to "normal" or "lts"?
[21:38] <vfw> excognac: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[21:40] <Adephit> i discover the problem :-DDDDDD thanks gac :-D
[21:40] <lagbox> you da man
[21:40] <gac> Adephit: cool, what was the problem? trying to load the file from the wrong folder?
[21:40] <lagbox> webroot issue ?
[21:40] <Adephit> yep.
[21:41] <Semajnad> Hello, I have a dedicated server running ubuntu desktop 13.10. Unfortunately, it's having trouble booting and is getting stuck on Stopping startpar bridge for notification of upstart job start/stop. It just hangs aand doesn't continue. Does anyone know why this might be?
[21:41] <excognac> gac: thx i set to to lts now
[21:41] <Adephit> ./var/www/html/info.php not /var/www/info.php lol
[21:41] <gac> excognac: cool, if it's set to LTS it should try and upgrade you to 14.04 which is obviously a current release :)
[21:41] <k1l> gac: yeah, thought this was triggered by the -d, but the release prompt must be set to lts.
[21:41] <excognac> gac:it!s doing it now!!
[21:41] <jononeone> Hi, im tryiuing to get ubuntu tv to work on ubuntu 12.04 but it wont load after installation and reboot.
[21:41] <jononeone> i get this error:
[21:42] <jononeone> unity-2d-shell: [FATAL] ASSERT: "m_barrier != 0" in file /build/buildd/unity-2d
[21:43] <excognac> vfw:tz for help, I set it to lts now works fine
[21:43] <vfw>  jononeone EOL for 13.10 Desktop was July 17th, 2014
[21:44] <gac> doesn't explain why it suddenly stopped booting though :/
[21:44] <lagbox> googling that error pops up some bugs on launchpad
[21:45] <vfw> jononeone: Is it server install?
[21:45] <Semajnad> The only other question is ( and this might be an easier solution ). I've created a second partition, I believe it's something like sdc6, and installed the same version of Ubuntu on, so I'm dual booting two versions of Ubuntu 13.10. How do I boot to this partition instead of the primary?
[21:45] <Semajnad> Oh sorry vfw didn't see that message. I've installed the Desktop version.
[21:46] <vfw> jononeone: If so, you might try sudo apt-get install bride-utils
[21:46] <RxTx127> i have a question about ubuntu 14.10, when i login, unity does not start and i can't acces to my desktop, i can send Ctrl alt del so see process and see the background image, only that, someone have ever had this issue ?
[21:46] <k1l> jononeone: ubuntu tv? i suggest you ask the specialists on that.
[21:46] <Ben64> Semajnad: 13.10 is no longer supported, you should be installing 14.04
[21:46] <jononeone> vfw: no its 12.04 lts
[21:46] <lagbox> RxTx127, what graphics driver ?
[21:46] <vfw> jononeone: I thought you said 13.10
[21:46] <Semajnad> Ben64, I need to get my data off first, as I have an unbootable 13.10.
[21:46] <RxTx127> Fglrx-update
[21:46] <lagbox> yea i have had nothing but problems with fglrx
[21:46] <k1l> jononeone: #ubuntu-tv should be the channel for that
[21:47] <Semajnad> How do I boot to partition sdc6 instead of sdc1?
[21:47] <Ben64> Semajnad: so boot a live cd or usb or dvd or something
[21:47] <RxTx127> humm
[21:47] <lagbox> try alt+ctrl+f1 to get to virtual console and see if it locks up
[21:47] <jononeone> k1l: Ok do you know anything about the error?
[21:47] <vfw> jononeone:  sudo apt-get install bride-utils
[21:47] <RxTx127> all tty works
[21:47] <lagbox> thats good
[21:47] <lagbox> and if you alt+ctlr+f7 you go back to black ?
[21:47] <k1l> jononeone: sorry, but no
[21:47] <RxTx127> it work too
[21:48] <teezw> I have an usb-speaker and it works but I have one problem: On the speaker there are three buttons to control the volume (volume up, mute, volume down). Unfortunately, they don't work. Can someone help me?
[21:48] <jononeone> vfw: no version 12.04 witch sould be the only version able to install ubuntu tv on .. ?
[21:48] <lagbox> i know i had to adjust some compiz settings to get some things to not be a problem
[21:48] <vfw> jononeone: I'm sorry, I got you mixed up with someone else.  Disregard
[21:48] <jononeone> vfw: what does that do?
[21:48] <Semajnad> At the moment I'm stuck with a remote dedicated server, looking at 200 pounds an hour for them to help, and a unbootable 13.10 Desktop OS. I have created a second partition with a new version of Ubuntu 13.10 on, but need to boot to that (sdc6) instead of sdc1. How do you boot to a new partition?
[21:49] <lagbox> actually i never had to use fglrx until i just upgraded and i am not happy about it at all
[21:49] <RxTx127> hum :/
[21:49] <vfw> Semajnad: sudo apt-get install bride-utils
[21:49] <RxTx127> not good
[21:49] <Ben64> Semajnad: how did you install 13.10
[21:49] <jononeone> vfw: i get this after running command:
[21:49] <lagbox> RxTx127, try installing xfce as alternative desktop and login to that and see if you get a desktop
[21:49] <jononeone> Reading state information... Done
[21:49] <jononeone> E: Unable to locate package bride-utils
[21:49] <Semajnad> Ben64:  The host mounted the ISO from their end because their KVM was playing up and I installed it on a seperate partition.
[21:50] <Semajnad> Ben64: Hoping I could then boot into that aand recover the data using FTP
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Semajnad: Start by installing a supported version of Ubuntu, like 14.04.
[21:50] <jononeone> vfw: no problem. :-)
[21:50] <Semajnad> Jordan_U: I don't want to do that as the KVM is VERY slow. I have a working copy of 13.10 and just need to know how to boot to it.
[21:50] <Ben64> Semajnad: if it was indeed working, it would boot
[21:50] <RxTx127> ushh, i will try to back to default driver before, and if it not work i will install xfce ok ? :p
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Semajnad: 14.04 shouldn't be any slower than 13.10, but it definitely is more secure, and actually supported here.
[21:51] <lagbox> sounds good ... trouble shooting is always fun :)
[21:51] <Semajnad> Ben64: My primary install of 13.10 is not working. I have installed aa second copy of it on another partition and need to boot to that one instead.
[21:51] <RxTx127> yes :p i like problems !
[21:51] <Ben64> Semajnad: i understand that, but if you truly installed it properly, it would boot automatically
[21:51] <Semajnad> Jordan_U: The problem is not speed or security, it's just the fact that I don't want to have to go through the install procedure again. I just need to know how to boot to sdc6 instead of sdc1?
[21:52] <Semajnad> Is it an easy procedure to change the primary boot parititon?
[21:52] <Ben64> Semajnad: why don't you boot the livecd again, and use that environment to recover your files
[21:52] <vfw> jononeone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/983942
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Semajnad: This channel only supports supported versions of Ubuntu, period. I'm sure that you'll save much more time by re-installing a supported version of Ubuntu compared to the time you will lose due to not having support.
[21:53] <freijon> Semajnad: you could edit fstab to boot sdc6
[21:53] <Semajnad> Ben64 is Live CD just the 'Try Ubuntu'. Also, I don't believe I get network connectivity and what I really need to do is install an FTP Server so I can recover my files to my local PC.
[21:53] <RxTx127> purge all drivers and removin xorg conf
[21:54] <RxTx127> and reinstall xorg :) and reconfigure !
[21:54] <Ben64> Semajnad: everything works in a livecd, ftp, ssh, networking
[21:54] <vfw> Semajnad: You can't just use scp?
[21:54] <Semajnad> Ben64: Thank you, I'll give that a go, I didn't realize it would :)
[21:55] <delac> when I set "Record file and application usage" off, what program(s) I'm disabling?
[21:56] <Semajnad> Thank you, I appreciate the help. I'll try Live CD and recover my files from there.
[21:57] <excognac> Hmm. mz disked looks messed up, what's the matter here? http://pastebin.com/EzQw9ang
[21:58] <excognac> *my disk
[21:59] <gac> excognac: your disk is 625142448 sectors, but the extended partition ends at 625153409
[21:59] <gac> (sda4)
[22:00] <RobinHood2015> How do I convert an existing ext4 partition to BTRFS?
[22:01] <lagbox> i think google has the answer to that one
[22:01] <reisio> might want to be able to answer such a question yourself, before moving to a beta FS
[22:02] <Quatroking> whenever I hibernate/suspend, ubuntu freezes when I resume
[22:03] <Quatroking> what do
[22:03] <RobinHood2015> reisio: So you recommend sticking with ext4, then?
[22:03] <lagbox> Quatroking, what video drivers ?
[22:03] <Quatroking> lagbox, I use the open source onces because my nvidia card is toasted
[22:03] <Quatroking> when I use nvidia drivers my desktop literally looks as if it's on LSD
[22:03] <mgolisch> RobinHood2015: why do you want btrfs? do you have any use for even one of its features?
[22:03] <excognac> gac:thx mate so, i just need to edit the partition table in terminal to the correct value, right?
[22:03] <vfw> RobinHood2015: You don't convert to a different filesystem, you reformat to a different filesystem (and wipe any existing data in the process).
[22:04] <lagbox> vfw you can convert filesystems
[22:04] <gac> excognac: i can't really help with a solution - I've never seen that happen myself, and i'm not even sure how one *could* make that partition table in the first place
[22:04] <mgolisch> actualy btrfs allows conversion from extfs
[22:04] <lagbox> there are numerous tools for doing so
[22:05] <RobinHood2015> Well, I'm using TimeShift, a System Restore utility similar to Windows' for Ubuntu. The program is written by Tony George, and I've seen on his website that BTRFS is supposed to be awesome...
[22:06] <vfw> reading https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Conversion_from_Ext3
[22:06] <RobinHood2015> It's actually supposed to let you be able to resize partitions while they are live, like NTFS does.
[22:07] <a4> hi guys, I'm trying to get sound working on my thinkpad, which still doesn't work. I've installed alsa and alsa-tools, then I added my username to audio (sudo adduser a audio). Afther I did those things, I restarted my system, and tried to play some music with mocp, which gave me the following error: FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver! I don't know what else I can do. Can somebody provide me some direction
[22:07] <a4> how to solve this?
[22:07] <vfw> I stand corrected.  There appears to be a conversion program btrfs-convert.  (Apparently can *can* teach an old dog new tricks.)
[22:08] <vfw> a4: alsamixer
[22:09] <vfw> a4: (What does it say about your sound card?)
[22:10] <excognac> gac: thanks, i think i'll mess with testdisk or so
[22:10] <gac> excognac: back up first ;)
[22:10] <vfw> a4: Does it show any muted channels?
[22:10] <excognac> gac:ofc, it's in process
[22:10] <gac> i don't think it'll be a major deal as the actual partitions inside that extended partition do end inside the disk, so shrinking the extended partition container *should* be ok. but you never know...
[22:11] <lagbox> what could possibly go wrong ... famous last words  :)
[22:11] <azizLIGHT> i got updates notification, to which i said ok install, and now it says: System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now? Cancel / Report problem...
[22:11] <azizLIGHT> what the heck
[22:11] <lagbox> yay 5th element reference
[22:12] <azizLIGHT> lol
[22:12] <a4> vfw: this is what alsamixer showing me http://imgur.com/pC9fctv
[22:13] <vfw> a4: F6
[22:13] <lagbox> probably shouldnt be using the hdmi
[22:13] <vfw> a4: or  m
[22:14] <vfw> a4: Is that your sound card?  ATI R6xx HDMI ?
[22:14] <vfw> lagbox: Yea, don't think that is it.
[22:14] <lagbox> i think it is probably the hdmi part of the card .. and it has another card listed
[22:14] <lagbox> sometimes the hdmi gets listed first for some reason
[22:14] <vfw> a4: F6  (see what you get.)
[22:15] <vfw> lagbox: At any rate, it shows to be muted.
[22:15] <vfw> a4:  MM  means it is muted
[22:16] <lagbox> its possible that card depending on drivers will always be muted ... ive seen odd things with those setups
[22:17] <a4> vfw: when I press F6, I get two different Sound Card: 1HDA ATI SB, and Thinkpad Console Audio. The 1HDA ATI is setted all to high
[22:17] <lagbox> if i dont pass the right boot param i dont get hdmi audio
[22:17] <vfw> a4: So what do you see with Thinkpad Console Audio?
[22:18] <vfw> a4: (Is anything muted?)
[22:18] <a4> vfw: MM, wnen I press m, I get 00, but it can't be setted higher
[22:18] <vfw> a4: Up-Arrow
[22:18] <a4> vfw: nothing is muted now
[22:19] <a4> vfw: up arrow doesn't work
[22:19] <a4> vfw: it keeps on 00
[22:19] <vfw> a4: Right-Arrow to go to channel at right, Left-Arrow to move left
[22:19] <vfw> a4: (You must first select the channel in order to change volume setting.)
[22:20] <a4> vfw: still not
[22:20] <halpme> hello
[22:20] <halpme> i need an help
[22:20] <lagbox> a4, what type of thinkpad and what version of ubuntu
[22:20] <vfw> a4: Open another terminal and:  lspci (See what it says about your sound chip)
[22:20] <lagbox> i would imagine their is a wiki page setup if this is a common issue
[22:21] <halpme> i wish to know where is 14.10 X deamon config file
[22:21] <halpme> where is it?
[22:21] <halpme> it's not gnome anymore
[22:21] <vfw> a4: Some laptops also have manual volume controls, (and they will override software ones if turned down, or muted).
[22:22] <halpme> anyone?
[22:22] <lagbox> hehe i have had to use audio tools to go in and play with virtual pins so i can get all my speakers working ... there sometimes is weird proprietary stuff going on
[22:23] <vfw> halpme:  service --status-all
[22:24] <vfw> halpme: (from terminal window)
[22:24] <halpme> vfw: what does it do?
[22:24] <vfw> halpme: Shows list of services and tells their status
[22:25] <halpme> and how does it solve the need to know where is config files for the X service?
[22:25] <vfw> halpme:  init daemon control tool
[22:26] <vfw> halpme: Oh, ok.  Startup scripts?
[22:26] <halpme> no, enviroment configs
[22:26] <lvleph> my media keys only work after logging into Unity/Gnome, but if I am using i3wm or am sitting in lightdm they don't work. Any idea?
[22:26] <vfw> halpme: You want to know where the startup scrips are?  NO you want configuration files?
[22:26] <halpme> vfw: configuration files
[22:26] <lvleph> Ubuntu 14.10 btw
[22:27] <ASHER1> hello
[22:27] <ASHER1> where i can find download for this?
[22:27] <ASHER1> ubuntu 14.04  wubi.exe
[22:27] <vfw> halpme: /etc
[22:27] <gac> ASHER1: i don't think wubi exists anymore, does it?
[22:28] <lvleph> ASHER1, http://askubuntu.com/questions/449486/windows-installer-for-ubuntu-14-04-lts-onwards
[22:28] <vfw> halpme: An example would be printer deamon, (cups): /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[22:28] <gac> oh, it does, my bad
[22:29] <halpme> vfw: well i asked for the X SERVER (not anymore gnome) conf files, i know they are located in /etc/but which subfolders and which files are?
[22:29] <lagbox> are you looking for like Xorg.conf or something ?
[22:29] <vfw> halpme: Ok  /etc/X11
[22:29] <lvleph> So why would media keys work in Unity but not i3wm or lightdm?
[22:30] <vfw> halpme: What are you needing to do?
[22:30] <halpme> vfw: just wanna read them
[22:30] <gac> lvleph: there's probably a daemon running in the background to listen to those specific key events, and take action on them. which, if it's a part of unity, probably doesn't run on the login screen and won't run in another window manager
[22:30] <lagbox> might be some gsettings involved with those keys
[22:31] <vfw> halpme: You might be interested in  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:31] <lvleph> lagbox, I run unity-settings-daemon on start of i3
[22:31] <halpme> vfw: what does it contain, except logs, which are regards of interest?
[22:31] <vfw> halpme: Because, unless you have a proprietary driver module installed, the configuration file will not exist.
[22:32] <halpme> vfw: and the default configs?
[22:32] <vfw> halpme: But if it does exist it would be in /etc/X11/
[22:32] <vfw> halpme: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:33] <halpme> vfw: X11 is not just the deamon who, next, call and start the enviroment who write GUI, effects and all?
[22:33] <vfw> halpme: But you'll see what you have going on now in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:34] <lvleph> halpme, I don't think we understand what you want. I certainly don't understand half of what you are typing.
[22:35] <vfw> halpme: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:35] <vfw> halpme: See if that shows what you are looking for.
[22:35] <k1l> halpme: the *dm (like lightdm) sorts all the xserver stuff on ubuntu. so if i understand you right you want to look at that configs
[22:35] <lvleph> k1l, the configs for lightdm only  really tells you session info.
[22:36] <vfw> halpme: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[22:36] <icloud> I want to pick icon-theme-name for lightdm, how do i know what icon-theme-name i have available?
[22:36] <halpme> vfw: i see the logs
[22:36] <icloud> the reason im asking is that my icons are red Xs on light dm greeter
[22:36] <lvleph> icloud, you can look into http://www.maketecheasier.com/customize-lightdm-themes/
[22:36] <vfw> halpme: Well, that won't show much.
[22:37] <halpme> vfw: lightdm.conf does not exist
[22:37] <halpme> i have users.conf
[22:37] <lvleph> halpme, what are you actually looking for?
[22:38] <vfw> halpme: /etc/init.d/lightdm
[22:38] <vfw> halpme: But that's just the startup script.
[22:38] <icloud> lvleph: i was there, it doesn't tell me much,  i am inside lightdm.conf, i was able to change my wall paper for lightdm and pick the theme-name
[22:38] <halpme> ivaldi: in newest releases of ubuntu, GNOME was changed with a custom X system, i wanna know where is the config files for that
[22:39] <vfw> lvleph: I think he just wants to know where stuff is.....
[22:39] <lvleph> icloud, there is a lightdm-tweak or something
[22:39] <lagbox> what about gnome ?
[22:39] <lvleph> vfw, after asking multiple times and being ignored; I am just going to ignore halpme
[22:39] <lagbox> gnome isn't an x system
[22:39] <vfw> halpme: Have you installed  gnome-shell ?
[22:40] <halpme> ivaldi: i didn't see, retype
[22:40] <givello> Bashing-om: hey
[22:40] <halpme> vfw: no, no gnome-shell since it does not use gnome anymore
[22:41] <phix> Woah!  What's with all the updates today?
[22:41] <halpme> vfw: unless i want to change default with it, and i don't want that
[22:41] <vfw> halpme: So you have a standard Ubuntu install?
[22:41] <vfw> halpme: 14.04?
[22:41] <lagbox> ubuntu defaults to unity
[22:41] <vfw> !unity | halpme
[22:41] <halpme> vfw: 14.04 UU with some PKGS that does not impact on unity
[22:41] <phix> unity == buggy as all hell on my computer, I am sure it runs better on other peoples hardware
[22:42] <lvleph> I suppose I should check the change logs for 14.04 to 14.10 to figure out how things changed with media keys
[22:42] <k1l> halpme: what? can you rephrase the issue you want to invistigate?
[22:42] <lagbox> actually 14.10 has fixed my issues with unity for the most part :) finally
[22:42] <halpme> k1l: i have 14.10 with some packages that does not impact on unity
[22:42] <lvleph> lagbox, 14.10 has broken my i3 well the media keys anyway
[22:43] <lagbox> maybe you need to check with i3 docs
[22:43] <lvleph> halpme, what language do you speak?
[22:43] <halpme> lvleph: italian and english
[22:43] <lvleph> i3 doesn't handle media keys
[22:43] <k1l> halpme: like what packages?
[22:44] <lvleph> non compisco l'italiano sorry
[22:44] <halpme> k1l: an IRC chat, chrominium
[22:44] <vfw> halpme: I don't know how curent this info is, but:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/318253/how-do-i-customize-unity-on-ubuntu-13-04
[22:44] <bazhang> !info chrominium
[22:44] <vfw> halpme: (I am an xfce user, so....)
[22:44] <k1l> halpme: that have nothing to do with the xserver
[22:45] <lagbox> chromium
[22:45] <OerHeks> whats wrong with updates?
[22:45] <k1l> halpme: so what is the issue there?
[22:45] <Jelle_> Hey guys. How can I give a certain service (Java) more RAM in my server please?
[22:45] <halpme> k1l: tools and tools, i wanna edit my config with my nano by myself
[22:45] <phix> ummm there is a PPA for chrome
[22:45] <k1l> halpme: what?
[22:45] <icloud> lvleph: i am just asking how to find out what icon-theme-names are available on my system
[22:45] <halpme> k1l: there is no issues, i wanna customize my system
[22:46] <k1l> halpme: you are not making any sense.
[22:46] <icloud> like for theme-name i just ls /usr/share/themes and for fonts i can do fc-list
[22:46] <lvleph> icloud, ahhh. This I don't know.
[22:46] <lagbox> dpkg -l | grep icon-theme | grep ii  ?  idk
[22:46] <k1l> halpme: are you talking about theme changes?
[22:46] <halpme> k1l: no, no and no
[22:47] <k1l> halpme: so what is your issue?
[22:47] <halpme> k1l: apache have httpd.conf
[22:47] <halpme> k1l: unity have ?
[22:47] <vfw> halpme: I think there is a ppa for unity-tweak-tool (Not sure about it, I've not used it but may be of interest to you.)
[22:48] <halpme> vfw: as i said, i wanna edit my config files with nano and not using a tool for that
[22:48] <bazhang> !info unity-tweak-tool
[22:48] <k1l> halpme: you mean dconfig?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> givello: I am here, so I guess I still exist. Where are we at presently in getting you booting ?
[22:48] <k1l> vfw: its not a PPA anymore
[22:48] <lagbox> universe/gnome
[22:48] <OerHeks> !info dconf-editor
[22:48] <vfw> halpme: Good luck with that.
[22:48] <vfw> k1l: Thanks info.
[22:48] <lvleph> aren't the unity configs all in gsettings or something
[22:48] <halpme> vfw: more than luck i need to know location
[22:48] <icloud> lagbox: haha ok, that works, i didn't know themes are installed as packages awesome
[22:49] <lagbox> icloud, im just guessing
[22:49] <vfw> halpme: ~/.gconf maybe..?
[22:50] <halpme> vfw: gonna try
[22:50] <k1l> halpme: like i said: its dconf
[22:50] <Jelle_> Hey guys. How can I give a certain service (Java) more RAM in my server please?
[22:50] <givello> Bashing-om: haha, good :D
[22:50] <icloud> lagbox: good guess thanks
[22:50] <lagbox> np
[22:50] <Bashing-om> givello: Booting ?
[22:50] <givello> Bashing-om: haha, good :D Eric^^ earlier tonight
[22:50] <givello> I mean I worked with Eric^^ sorry
[22:50] <k1l> halpme: so have a read: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/dconf
[22:50] <givello> Bashing-om: but to no avail
[22:51] <Bashing-om> givello: Was it indeed a grub issue ?
[22:51] <lagbox> compiz settings come into play
[22:51] <givello> Bashing-om: we reinstalled grub, didn't work
[22:51] <vfw> halpme: Maybe use  gconf-editor and browse /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options
[22:51] <halpme> vfw: nothing,
[22:51] <k1l> vfw: gnome swithced to dconf last time
[22:51] <lagbox> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[22:51] <givello> Bashing-om: I'm not sure if you got the info but I got the system to give me error messages when booting
[22:51] <givello> Bashing-om: take a look at the history of the channel
[22:52] <lagbox> but who knows what the right avenue is
[22:52] <vfw> halpme: You might also have gconftool-2 - GNOME configuration tool
[22:52] <givello> Bashing-om: or I can explain you again if you prefer
[22:52] <cognitios> How do i create a channel?
[22:52] <givello> Bashing-om: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/29/%23ubuntu.html
[22:52] <halpme> vfw: is that a file? i wished to use a ASCII text file editor for that work
[22:53] <vfw> halpme: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52025/where-can-i-find-a-unity-configuration-file
[22:53] <Bashing-om> givello: I look at the log. see what I can garner . I be back.
[22:53] <k1l> halpme: and: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?lr=lang_en&q=gsettings   and http://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?lr=lang_en&q=dconf
[22:53] <lvleph> man, I can't find anything that tells me why multimedia keys would work in unity but not lightdm or i3wm
[22:53] <k1l> halpme: that should be enough for you to read
[22:53] <halpme> k1l: reading
[22:54] <givello> Bashing-om: ok, thanks :)
[22:54] <halpme> k1l: used gconf-editor /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options
[22:55] <k1l> halpme: stop. read the links i gave you
[22:55] <halpme> k1l: system program problem detected screen
[22:55] <halpme> k1l: readed
[22:55] <k1l> halpme: yes. because you are doing it wrong. i told you to use dconf since its what unity and gnome use today.
[22:55] <OerHeks> halpme, random editting can cause problems :-D
[22:56] <Brado> pretty cool ubuntu logs their irc conversations...
[22:56] <k1l> halpme: so go and really read what i linked you. and not just press buttons or copy&paste commands you find
[22:56] <lagbox> there is some issue possibly with the media keys with how they are set ... missing the XF86 part of the value
[22:56] <halpme> k1l: ok i am doing it
[22:57] <k1l> halpme: you asked for the hard way. so go the hard way.
[22:57] <halpme> k1l: i am
[22:57] <lagbox> lvleph, have you tried resetting those media keys ?
[22:58] <ki7mt> Does anyone know if there's a backport for lintian / trust to bump the standards version to 3.9.6 v.s. 3.9.5 ?
[22:58] <lvleph> lagbox,  yes, using gsettings
[22:59] <ki7mt> .. s/trust/trusty/g ..
[22:59] <halpme> k1l: ok, there's no sign of dconf in that link only gconf*
[23:00] <halpme> k1l: gconf-editor and gconftool-2
[23:00] <cognitios> How do I create a channel?
[23:00] <k1l> halpme: its dconf
[23:00] <lagbox> cognitios, an irc channel ?
[23:00] <cognitios> yes
[23:00] <lagbox> ask in #freenode
[23:00] <cognitios> thank you
[23:00] <k1l> cognitios: just join a channel. then its created. you need to register it. but that is a support issue of #freenode
[23:00] <halpme> k1l: dconf is writed where in that link?
[23:01] <[Saint_]> IS dist-upgrade failing on linux-generic dependencies a known issue in 14.10?
[23:01] <k1l> halpme: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/en/man1/dconf-editor.1.html
[23:01] <Brado> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[23:01] <Brado> and not bother freenode
[23:01] <k1l> [Saint_]: no
[23:01] <halpme> k1l: it say "gconf is not the same as dconf/gsettings (it is the older config system)."
[23:01] <k1l> Brado: that is what that channel is for
[23:02] <k1l> halpme: so? i told you that gconf is deprecated
[23:02] <ki7mt> why would there be a dist-upgrade if a point release has not been issues?
[23:02] <Hephaestos> i need some help with setting up my own irc server
[23:02] <ki7mt> ... issued
[23:02] <Ben64> ki7mt: dist-upgrade has no relationship to a point release
[23:02] <[Saint_]> ^ this
[23:02] <Brado> https://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/ ... Im bored
[23:02] <lvleph> okay, when I login using lightdm what does lightdm run to get unity up?
[23:03] <ki7mt> what's the diff then ?
[23:03] <Jelle_> I get  'There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue. ', how can I give more RAM to my java service?
[23:03] <Ben64> !dist-upgrade | ki7mt
[23:03] <halpme> k1l: so dconf is deprecated and i should use gconf according to link, but i must use dconf because gconf is deprecated according to you, what should i do so? it's pretty confusing
[23:03] <[Saint_]> Ask Google what dist-upgrade is for
[23:03] <ki7mt> Ben64, Thanks.
[23:04] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade
[23:04] <bazhang> [Saint_], ^
[23:04] <ki7mt> lol .. I've had that backwards for a long time them.. whoops !
[23:04] <[Saint_]> Anyway: TL;DR - dist-upgrade is failing to apply the kernel image due to a cyclical dependency with the linux-generic and linux-image-generic metapackages in the 14.10 release image
[23:04] <k1l> halpme: gconf is deprecated
[23:04] <[Saint_]> bazhang: Ummm...thanks?
[23:04] <halpme> k1l: so the command is dconf /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/
[23:04] <[Saint_]> *I* know what its for....
[23:04] <k1l> halpme: gconf was for gnome2. dconf for gnome3.
[23:04] <Ben64> [Saint_]: pastebin "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:04] <[Saint_]> bazhang: I suspect you wanted to direct that to someone else.
[23:05] <[Saint_]> Either that, or you misread.
[23:05] <quillford> How can I get my com
[23:05] <k1l> halpme: i will stop searching stuff for you know since you dont listen but just click on commands you see without even thinking what you are doing. good luck
[23:05] <OerHeks> [Saint} channel policy is: we do not suggest to google
[23:05] <Jelle_> I get  'There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue. ', how can I give more RAM to my java service? Or should I try updatingj ava?
[23:05] <bazhang> [Saint_], you said to google it, please dont do that in future
[23:06] <quillford> How can I get my computer to basically be like a chromecast? I mainly want YouTube and possibly Netflix. I am currently on Ubuntu
[23:06] <halpme> k1l: maybe you are pointing me things that say another thing as you did and i am confusing
[23:06] <rww> halpme: the quote you gave says the *same* thing as k1l said.
[23:06] <[Saint_]> Please don't ask people to search out information they can find out themselves trivially?
[23:06] <[Saint_]> What kind of bullshit nany crap is that?
[23:06] <lagbox> what
[23:06] <bazhang> [Saint_], correct. just dont answer if you dont know
[23:06] <halpme> rww: so i misunderstand, that make sense
[23:07] <k1l> [Saint_]: dont get distracted. lets focus on the technical support
[23:07] <RobinHood2015> Tried to convert my Ubuntu system to BTRFS, but when I did so and rebooted, I got "error: unknown filesystem," "Entering rescue mode..." and "grub rescue>". Did I miss a step in the conversion process?
[23:07]  * [Saint_] remebers why he rarely spends time in this channel
[23:07] <lagbox> probably
[23:07] <lagbox> did you update configs to tell it what filesystem is on the partition ?
[23:07] <halpme> rww: but dconf launched on the path suggested by link return nothing, so i don't have any idea of what i should do
[23:08] <k1l> [Saint_]: can you show a pastebin of the actual apt-get command failing?
[23:08] <RobinHood2015> Yes, I edited /etc/fstab on the partition in question.
[23:08] <k1l> [Saint_]: best is to run "apt-get update" before
[23:08] <[Saint_]> k1l: yes, indeed. sec.
[23:08] <lagbox> so what was the reason for switching filesystems ?
[23:08] <Jelle_> Is it possible to allocate more ram to my java-service please?
[23:09] <RobinHood2015> To unlock resizing of partitions while they are live, among other features.
[23:09] <lagbox> can i ask why you need that ability .. im just interested
[23:09] <halpme> i am using dconf list /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/ and it give nothing as a result, so there's no variable on that folder, or i am pointing wrong folder, or something i don't understand but block me
[23:09] <lagbox> sounds interesting
[23:09] <lagbox> Jelle_, perhaps there is a flag you can pass
[23:10] <Jelle_> lagbox: please tell me more :D
[23:11] <lagbox> -Xms <initial size> -Xmx <max size>
[23:11] <Jelle_> And where to set the service? Java in this case
[23:12] <[Saint_]> k1l: http://pastebin.com/LMBk8DfM
[23:12] <[Saint_]> (absolutely clean 14.10 install)
[23:12] <RobinHood2015> Anyway, I'm thinking I forgot to do "update-grub" on the newly converted root partition.
[23:12] <halpme> well i assume i must ask somewhere else
[23:12] <[Saint_]> removing the linux-generic metapackage doesn't help.
[23:13] <lagbox> Jelle_, there might be a config type file for that service that you can alter
[23:13] <vfw> RobinHood2015: Then boot from the install media and do the recovery option.
[23:13] <halpme> thank you for your time anyway
[23:13] <vfw> RobinHood2015: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[23:14] <vfw> halpme: Send pizza and beer
[23:14] <[Saint_]> k1l: any ideas?
[23:14] <k1l> [Saint_]: its doesnt fail on the package depency. it fails before
[23:14] <Jelle_> lagbox can you give me more information please :D
[23:15] <lagbox> not really
[23:15] <Jelle_> too bad!
[23:15] <RobinHood2015> "sudo apt-get install boot-repair", correct?
[23:15] <lagbox> does that service have a config file in etc or anything ?
[23:15] <lagbox> plus what service is it ?
[23:15] <Jelle_> Java :P
[23:15] <Jelle_> ' There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue. '
[23:15] <lagbox> just java
[23:15] <lagbox> i dont think so
[23:16] <Jelle_> So I need to upgrade my server :D
[23:16] <lagbox> yea i dont know what service your talking about
[23:16] <Jelle_> well actually its Jira
[23:16] <Jelle_> but jira is crashing due to Java
[23:16] <lagbox> why didn't you say so
[23:17] <lagbox> google   how to allocate more memory for JIRA ubuntu
[23:17] <vfw> Jelle_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2079972
[23:17] <[Saint_]> k1l: any ideas on a way forward here? I suspect I'm not the only one hitting this issue, as its a 100% clean, first boot, 14.10 image installed specifically to reproduce the error.
[23:17] <[Saint_]> (I wanted to remove any possibility of user configuration snafoos)
[23:17] <lagbox> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/JIRA/Increasing+JIRA+Memory
[23:17] <k1l> [Saint_]: some special setup with /boot partition or encryption?
[23:17] <lagbox> :)
[23:17] <[Saint_]> Nither.
[23:17] <[Saint_]> *neither
[23:18] <Jelle_> thank you sir!
[23:18] <[Saint_]> k1l: its just a 100% kosher "let the installer do what it wants" setup.
[23:18] <[Saint_]> single partition space, nothing fancy.
[23:20] <givello> Bashing-om: Ill go to bed sorry, here's hoping you or eric will be around tomorrow to try and fix it again...
[23:21] <givello> Bashing-om: if I cant get it to work Ill just save my game saves and reinstall, but I'd rather not
[23:21] <k1l> [Saint_]: what gives you "sudo update-grub"?
[23:21] <[Saint_]> k1l: it is a dual-boot environment, but that was working happily for several years prior.
[23:22] <[Saint_]> I re-images the Ubuntu section the other day, and everything fell to crap.
[23:22] <k1l> [Saint_]: i think the "grub-probe: error: not a directory." (line 160 in that paste) is triggering the issue
[23:22] <RobinHood2015> Okay, I'm back... I tried to update GRUB on my hard drive after converting my partitions to BTRFS, but the command returns "error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'. What's wrong now?
[23:22] <[Saint_]> k1l: saint@saint-desktop:~$ sudo update-grub Generating grub configuration file ... grub-probe: error: not a directory.
[23:22] <vfw> [Saint_]: uname -r
[23:22] <lagbox> why would you need to resize partitions while running ?
[23:23] <k1l> [Saint_]: yes, that is the cause, not the package installation
[23:23] <[Saint_]> 3.16.0-23-generic
[23:23] <RobinHood2015> to create even more partitions, naturally
[23:24] <lagbox> yea thats the part i am intrigued about
[23:24] <vfw> [Saint_]: ls /boot/vmlinuz-3.* |pastebinit
[23:25] <RobinHood2015> Anyway, how can I fix GRUB to recognize that my partitions are now in BTRFS format?
[23:25] <[Saint_]> vfw: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-23-generic  /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-24-generic
[23:25] <RobinHood2015> Or do I need to install a whole new bootloader entirely?
[23:26] <vfw> [Saint_]: So you have upgraded to kernel 3.16.0.24 but you've not rebooted since then and are still running 3.16.0.23 ?
[23:26] <vfw> [Saint_]: Or_______________?
[23:27] <[Saint_]> vfw: I've done nothing but what you see in the initial pastebin
[23:27] <[Saint_]> its an absolutely clean install specifically to replicate this error
[23:27] <[Saint_]> I've done nothing but apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:28] <vfw> [Saint_]: sudo apt-get update && sudo upgrade
[23:28] <vfw> [Saint_]: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:28] <k1l> there is an issue somewhere with grub
[23:29] <ObrienDave> [Saint_]: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:29] <k1l> i dont know if its the /boot partition, the write permissions on anything in /boot or with plain grub settings
[23:29] <[Saint_]> Is this "lets ask [Saint_] to re-do the things he quite obviously already did" day? ;)
[23:30] <RobinHood2015> kll: oh? you mean, a problem in that GRUB simply does not know BTRFS because BTRFS is such an unstable FS?
[23:30] <vfw> [Saint_]: Is it working?
[23:30] <[Saint_]> No...as stated earlier.
[23:30] <vfw> [Saint_]: Do it now.
[23:30] <k1l> RobinHood2015: sorry, was not referring to you
[23:30] <lagbox> wait you changed your boot partition to BTRFS ?
[23:31] <[Saint_]> After the failed dist-upgrade, apt-get upgrade shits its pants in exactly the same way
[23:31] <RobinHood2015> yes... was that a mistake?
[23:31] <vfw> [Saint_]: Let us know if it completes without error.
[23:31] <lagbox> i think os
[23:31] <lagbox> so
[23:31] <[Saint_]> vfw: it does not
[23:31] <k1l> RobinHood2015:  but i am not sure if that works with grub that way
[23:31] <vfw> [Saint_]: apt-get -f install
[23:31] <lagbox> i forget what version of grub we are using
[23:31] <kojakzito> how do I solve such a problem?
[23:32] <lagbox> it might support it
[23:32] <kojakzito> apache2 : Depends: apache2-bin (= 2.4.6-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed            Depends: apache2-data (= 2.4.6-2ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed            Conflicts: apache2.2-common but 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.7 is to be installed
[23:32] <kojakzito> im on 12.04 LTS
[23:32] <[Saint_]> vfw: shits the bed with the same list of errors
[23:32] <k1l> kojakzito: PPAs or other 3rd party .debs installed?
[23:32] <RobinHood2015> It's GRUB 2, isn't it?
[23:32] <k1l> RobinHood2015: yep. that is the standard on ubuntu
[23:33] <gac> kojakzito: ubuntu 12.04 comes with apache 2.2, it seems like you're using a PPA or a .deb package which is for a later version of ubuntu, and your version doesn't have the correct dependencies available
[23:33] <lagbox> yar
[23:33] <lagbox> atleast on 14.10
[23:33] <vfw> [Saint_]: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-extra-3.16.0-24-generic
[23:33] <RobinHood2015> so would GRUB 2 support BTRFS?
[23:33] <vfw> [Saint_]:sudo  dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-extra-3.16.0-24-generic
[23:33] <kojakzito> oh ok, im trying to install this package: apache2-prefork-dev
[23:34] <vfw> [Saint_]: uptime  (What does that tell you?)
[23:34] <[Saint_]> vfw: exactly what should happen in this case happens there - "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-image-extra-3.16.0-24-generic is broken or not fully installed"
[23:34] <gac> kojakzito: from where though? the version provided in the 12.04 repo would be dependent on 2.2, because that's what ships
[23:34] <k1l> kojakzito: yes, but the PPA (or other stuff you installed not form the official ubuntu repo) doesnt like that
[23:34] <vfw> [Saint_]: uptime  (What does that tell you?)
[23:34] <[Saint_]> ...wait? What? Why the hell is uptime relevant?
[23:34] <gac> kojakzito: do you have a PPA enabled? or have you downloaded a .deb?
[23:34]  * [Saint_] is beggining to suspect he shouldn't be taking some of this advice too seriously
[23:34] <vfw> [Saint_]: Ok, I'm done.  You are on your own.
[23:35] <vfw> Bye
[23:35] <kojakzito> i havent downloaded any .deb
[23:35] <lagbox> their wiki seems to say ... in most cases
[23:35] <gac> kojakzito: so how are you trying to install that package?
[23:35] <k1l> kojakzito: PPAs?
[23:35] <kojakzito> thats the only thing i did, sudo apt-get install apache2 apache2-prefork-dev
[23:35] <kojakzito> i havent setup any PPA or anythign
[23:35] <gac> kojakzito: what does "apt-cache policy apache2-prefork-dev" tell you?
[23:36] <[Saint_]> Jesus. Its just not safe to assume people know what they're talking about anymore is it. Question it, and get a rage quit. Hilarious.
[23:36] <lagbox> RobinHood2015, i am so crazy about my boot partition i leave it as ext2
[23:36] <lagbox> to make sure any version of almost any bootable media i have can use it if needed
[23:37] <kojakzito> gac:
[23:37] <Naphatul> [Saint_], if you're doing tech support it's not safe to assume they know what they're talking about
[23:37] <kojakzito> apache2-prefork-dev:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.7   Package pin: (not found)   Version table:      2.2.22-1ubuntu1.7 500         500 http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main i386 Packages         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main i386 Packages      2.2.22-1ubuntu1 500         500 http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages
[23:38] <gac> weird. can't imagine why the 2.2 version is depending on apache 2.4
[23:38]  * [Saint_] will have another stab at this after he puts this batch of disks through the shredder
[23:38] <celroc> [Saint_]: Mind if I take a shot in the dark at helping you?
[23:38] <lagbox> glitch in the matrix
[23:39] <[Saint_]> celroc: if you're confident, I don't mind at all.
[23:39] <[Saint_]> I couldn;t care about this installation in the slightest.
[23:39] <[Saint_]> Its more for the sake of curiosity
[23:39] <celroc> [Saint_]: Have you tried running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"? That's one way to fix broken apt-get messes sometimes
[23:40] <k1l> kojakzito: run a "sudo apt-get update"
[23:40] <[Saint_]> celroc: that fails with the same error(s), as one would expect.
[23:40] <k1l> "please put that in a pastebin then
[23:41] <[Saint_]> The root issue seems to revolve around "grub-probe: error: not a directory."
[23:41] <k1l> [Saint_]: i think its a grub  error somewhere like i said before
[23:41] <[Saint_]> And for the life of me I cannot see a way out from this.
[23:41]  * [Saint_] nods
[23:42] <celroc> [Saint_]: I don't suppose you'd mind checking /boot and seeing if it has a grub and/or a grub2 folder, too?  Maybe it's looking for them, but they don't exist for some reason
[23:42] <kojakzito> k1l: here tit is http://pastebin.com/Z9fb5HLR
[23:42] <[Saint_]> celroc: http://pastebin.com/PVfQ1FUc
[23:43] <k1l> kojakzito: well, you got saucy repos in your sources.list
[23:43] <k1l> kojakzito: they cause the mess.
[23:43] <gac> kojakzito: i was typing what ^^ said :)
[23:43] <celroc> [Saint_]: Well, if you want to try something for the fun of it, maybe run "sudo mkdir /boot/grub2" and see if that somehow fixes the error
[23:43] <emacer> I created a launcher for Unity which brings up a terminal application.  When the application exits, I want the terminal to close, but it doesn't.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[23:43] <gac> also, potentially (but less likely), backports
[23:44] <kojakzito> k1l: should I comment them out from sources.list and try again?
[23:44] <gac> yep
[23:44] <k1l> kojakzito: you should remove them totally and never put them on again
[23:44] <Ben64> kojakzito: it is quite possible you've already broken a lot by having them in there
[23:44] <kojakzito> wow ur scaring me
[23:45] <kojakzito> let me do that immediately
[23:45] <[Saint_]> celroc: same error
[23:45] <kojakzito> so whatever saucy goes out
[23:45] <[Saint_]> The issue seems to revolve around my dual-boot setup that has worked fine for several years...
[23:45] <celroc> [Saint_]: Sorry if you already tried this, but have you ran sudo update-grub already, too?
[23:45] <k1l> mixing repos is a very bad thing. you are lucky if that issue is the only thing that was broken. apt will install the newest version of a package it could find. and in you case its possible that halfe your system thinks its saucy now.
[23:46] <kojakzito> ok i just removed the saucy repo
[23:46] <[Saint_]> celroc: I have, that's what gives the error: grub-probe: error: not a directory
[23:46] <kojakzito> trying again
[23:46] <Ben64> [Saint_]: is it a weird setup? did you install grub in some non standard way?
[23:46] <k1l> [Saint_]: what dualboot setup? did you check /boot? ls -al to see the permissions?
[23:47] <[Saint_]> Ben64: Install Windows; Install Ubuntu; done.
[23:47] <[Saint_]> Defaults for all.
[23:47] <FilthyMacNasty> eradicate all ntfs partitions and go from there
[23:47] <Ben64> FilthyMacNasty: not helpful
[23:48] <Ben64> [Saint_]: gpt? efi?
[23:48] <lonewulf85> Can some one help me getting my Bluetooth card working?
[23:51] <celroc> [Saint_]: Not to keep bothering you, but I'm wondering if maybe something's funny with the /boot/grub/ folder.  Can you run "sudo ls -ld /boot/grub" and tell me if its a symlink for some reason?  I remember that happened to me once a long time ago
[23:51] <[Saint_]> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Oct 30 12:44 /boot/grub
[23:52] <celroc> [Saint_]: Alright, that looks good.  Hmph.
[23:53] <cone> hi
[23:53] <lagbox> hi
[23:53] <DuckDude> hi
[23:53] <lonewulf85> Please bluetooth is Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth and I cannot get it to work.
[23:53] <cone> sup
[23:54] <lagbox> lonewulf85, you may have to build the driver for it
[23:54] <gac> lonewulf85: given that that chipset appears to be in several Ubuntu certified laptops, i'd be surprised if it were actually broken
[23:55] <Guest28273> question for ubuntu server version 14 is there anyway I can run it live and not have to partition my HD the desktop version runs well live I just wanted to compare the differences but if not I can always take the cd/dvd and uses a VM . Other thing I noticed is they only make the server version x64 no x86 version for download not that it seems like a problem one should beable to menuconfig the ARCH or compile it from x64 arch to x8
[23:55] <Guest28273> 6 shouldn't be that hard
[23:55] <[Saint_]> Hmmmm....I "fixed" it, by purging grub.
[23:55] <[Saint_]> Now, how do I go about repairing my grub install?
[23:55] <Guest28273> This question I posted is useless but I felt like talking
[23:55] <lonewulf85> gac, I do not think it is broken, when I swap my drive for Windows 8.1 it works in Windows just not in Ubuntu 14.04
[23:55] <k1l> [Saint_]: hmm. reinstall the grub package?
[23:55] <bazhang> Guest28273, try #ubuntu-server
[23:56] <celroc> [Saint_]: Does sudo apt-get upgrade work now, by the way?
[23:56] <gac> lonewulf85: but how is it "not working"?
[23:56] <kojakzito> ok it worked but now
[23:56] <kojakzito> i totally deleted /etc/apache2
[23:56] <kojakzito> after doing apt-get purge apache2, and the nreinstalling it
[23:56] <kojakzito> it does not recreate that folder
[23:56] <kojakzito> what can I do?
[23:56] <lonewulf85> gac, I cannot get it to turn on or anything.
[23:56] <gac> lonewulf85: so you don't have a bluetooth icon near the clock?
[23:57] <lonewulf85> gac, nope
[23:57] <SuperLag> Tell me I'm not crazy... and that there *is* a GUI tool for gdisk. I can't remember what the name is, and "apt-cache search gdisk" doesn't reveal anything telling.
[23:57] <lagbox> reconfigure
[23:57] <gac> lonewulf85: is there a hardware switch/software hotkey for it?
[23:57] <celroc> SuperLag: Would gparted be what you're looking for?
[23:57] <lagbox> gparted ?
[23:58] <gac> kojakzito: you might find that you need to purge apache2* (to get rid of apache-2.4-common, or other similarly named packages)
[23:58] <lonewulf85> gac, there is one that works for both my wifi and my bluetooth but my bluetooth does not come on.
[23:58] <SuperLag> celroc: lagbox: YES! Thank you for confirming I am not crazy. :D
[23:58] <celroc> Either that, or we're both crazy, too ;-)
[23:59] <lagbox> lonewulf85, have we even confirmed if there is a driver loaded at all ?
[23:59] <kojakzito> thank you gac !
[23:59] <lonewulf85> lagbox, I feel that there is not how can I build or find one?