[01:22] Hello, guys [01:22] Greetings & Welcome [01:23] I screwed up with xubuntu video drivers, and now display is super slow. [01:23] How do I fix it? [01:23] which video card? [01:24] It says it is an ATI radeon, but aticonfig finds no chip [01:24] carlos@Aspire-5517:~$ aticonfig [01:24] aticonfig: No supported adapters detected [01:25] what tells you it's a radeon? [01:26] There is a sticker here saying ATI Radeon Graphics [01:26] k. is it dedicated or shared memory? [01:27] Shared, I suppose [01:34] * ball burns Xubuntu 14.10 to a blank DVD [01:44] i havent tried 1410 yet [01:45] I should go and test it. [01:45] * LinusTorvaldII wonders about 1410... [01:45] Need to find a wireless NIC first though. [01:45] I'll be back later. [01:45] maybe ill drop it in my VM [01:47] xubuntu has always intrigued me, it is advertised as "lighter/faster than ubuntu" but all the testing data says it uses slighty more ram...makes no sence, less features built in at default, more ram usage? [01:48] LinusTorvaldII: with all statements like that, you can always assume ymmv.. depends mostly on how well the hardware support the linux kernel [01:48] can anyone explain this phenomena? [01:48] LinusTorvaldII: i am trying.. hardware support is the main explanation [01:49] ok, well i guess that covers it-thanks. [01:49] drivers.. if you installed the 3d driver that would best support unity or gnome3's d3 requirement, they may make the system run "better".. or seem peppier [01:49] Also, Xubuntu doesn't advertise itself as the lightweight OS, though you'd have to prove to me that it's heavier than Ubuntu. [01:49] xubuntu does has as many services enabled by default as ubuntu, you can try disabling 'gnome services' LinusTorvaldII [01:49] you could be comparing ubuntu 14.04 and xubuntu 14.10.. thats not an apples to apples comparison.. since, the kernel is different [01:50] * ObrienDave sticks to LTS [01:50] i have a hard believing it also but have read it on the internet several times over the years, back in the days around 904 it was very fast. [01:50] Check top/htop to see what's running. [01:50] LinusTorvaldII: try it yourself on your actual hardware.. you can read literally *anything* online.. [01:52] ok [01:53] one moment [01:54] LinusTorvaldII: if you are going to to *realistic* comparisons of unity and xfce, i suggest you spend more than one moment.. i would actually install them both on the same hardware.. though, you could get a pretty good idea in VM, or with live iso's.. depending on how well the hardware supports linux [01:57] well it will be fair then, because they are both going to be in this machine right here [01:57] both will be in the same vm too [01:58] its an i7-4770, 1tb HDD, 12gb ram and gtx 645 1gb gddr5. [01:59] too me it should use a lot less ram and run a lot faster [01:59] ubuntu unity 12.04 uses almost the same ram that gnome2 after disabling some of ubuntu services that come enabled by default [01:59] did you already disabled gnome services? [01:59] i havent even got the xubuntu download yet [02:00] but i have 1404 ubuntu in vm now [02:00] you can save a snapshot, and "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop".. [02:01] does anyone know how to keep the desktop icons from rearranging every time I log in? They used to stay static brfore I upgraded to 14.10 [02:02] ray_: right click on the desktop, I think there's an option for what you want. [02:02] says download will be done in 6 minuted [02:02] minutes [02:03] this will be interesting, always wondered about this. [02:03] LinusTorvaldII: great!.. feel free to chat in the #xubuntu-offtopic channel [02:05] im in that channel now actually [02:15] Hi every one [02:15] i need help plz ? [02:15] !ask | neotron [02:15] neotron: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [02:16] how can i delete guest user from the login screen and thanks [02:16] info: i'm new in xubuntu i don't know nothing [02:16] allow-guest=false in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [02:17] edit file ^^^ [02:17] thanks man [02:18] edit with nano command ? or gedit [02:18] either one [02:18] cool thanks alot [02:21] another question plz ? [02:22] When i type su + entre he ask me the password but i don't know what password he is talking about can any one help me plz ? [02:23] your own password [02:24] he don't accp it [02:24] '( [02:25] the same password i log with ? [02:26] he give me this : su: Authentication failure [02:27] yes, the same password you logon with [02:28] i will try again [02:28] thanks for helping guys [02:29] that's what we get paid for. oops, NOT paid for LOL [02:29] :D [02:30] don't want work [02:30] :( [02:30] good morning from germany [02:30] good night [02:30] from my contry [02:32] I habe problems with defekt Line 55 Quellliste /etc/apt/ Uri-parse after update installation [02:34] I had also post this terrible problem in www.ubuntusers.de, but this guy's piss me off [02:34] they a [02:35] sorry i cant help you [02:35] xubuntu17w: after update of what? to what? [02:35] because i'm new in linux [02:35] 14,o4.0 [02:36] than synaptic and softwarecenter was down [02:36] xubuntu17w: which is that? what you updated from ?or to? [02:36] can this fix your problem * sudo apt-get update * ?? [02:36] xubuntu17w: those just access the repositories.. the repositories were down? [02:36] it was a actualisierung [02:37] * ObrienDave chokes Google translate [02:37] xubuntu17w: ok.. since thats "past tense" and you are saying "was".. then, lets move on [02:37] or try sudo apt-get upgrade [02:37] xubuntu17w: whats the issue? [02:37] nothing with sudo ---- [02:37] this is what i know in linux :) [02:37] xubuntu17w: is english your native language? [02:37] do not working [02:37] xubuntu17w: what is not working? [02:38] !de | xubuntu17w [02:38] xubuntu17w: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [02:38] german [02:40] my english geht so lala hab auf shipyards und us - baracks english gesprochen , nur ist das 30 jahre her, [02:40] guys any books for beginners like me to understand linux ? [02:40] by [02:40] have a nice day [02:40] bnso [02:40] neotron: plenty of resources.. i would pick something specific, and take that on.. [02:41] ok thanks [02:42] Holstein where do you from, I live in Ploen! [02:43] guys i forget the password of my root user how can i get it back plzzz [02:43] there is no root pasword for default in *ubuntu [02:44] xubuntu17w: US [02:45] !sudo | neotron [02:45] neotron: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [02:45] thanks alot [03:16] have a nice day guys [03:16] cya and thanks for help [03:20] cool simplistic xubuntu desktop http://i.imgur.com/8lfYHnS.jpg [03:37] Hi guys [03:37] this command dont want work for me lshal [03:37] what to do ? [03:37] neotron: what are you trying to do? [03:38] this command dont want to work [03:38] lshal [03:38] neotron: in a larger sense, friend.. what are you trying to accomplish? [03:38] i dont know what this command do i just found it in net [03:39] neotron: dont do that [03:39] i'm new in linux i dont know nothing [03:39] can you explain this command for me plz ? [03:39] you know nothing and you want to run random commands you found? [03:39] neotron: thats *not* a good way to learn.. but, thats a good way to break the system, or allow someone to compromise your machine.. [03:39] or re-install a LOT of times [03:39] neotron: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/ls.1.html [03:40] ya i try to understand commands job [03:41] like nano job ps aux [03:41] neotron: try going the other way.. like, im trying to accomplish this task .. what are some ways to do that [03:41] neotron: you wont set down in a few hours and learn all the commands and what they do [03:41] sit* [03:42] eni bardy elsw? [03:42] because i lost years using windows [03:42] Есть кто живой [03:43] ??? [03:43] wtfOMG [03:43] russa lol [03:43] lolWhat [03:44] suka [03:44] lol [03:44] kakjla theKrmlM_ [03:44] pzl f*ck не ебите мозги [03:44] english [03:44] Мама роди меня обратно в Виндовс [03:45] !ru [03:45] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. === optraz_ is now known as optraz [03:50] wait! full moon is next week ;P [04:00] ubottu - бот? 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[04:27] I installed Xubuntu 14.10 amd64 on my daughter's PC. [04:30] awesome ball [04:31] there is also ubuntu mate now, a little more friendly [04:31] ball, she like it? [04:31] xangua: This looks pretty clean and straightforward. [04:32] Whiskers took a little getting used to but it's growing on me. [04:32] vrkalak: She hasn't seen it since I reimaged it but she liked the older version it used to run. [04:32] ...and Qimo, which it ran before that. [04:33] quimo used xfce right? [04:33] * ball nods [04:33] Qimo was Xubuntu-based. [04:36] Now I need to find some educational programs and perhaps games that would suit a ten-year-old. [04:37] try edubuntu [04:41] ObrienDave: Thanks, I'll try some of those packages. [04:43] Look to see what the meta packages depend on, right. [04:44] The Edubuntu Website lists some of them. [05:03] Goodnight everyone! [05:32] exit [05:33] exit coffee [05:36] i will be back === sheepish is now known as dmt === dmt is now known as dmt_ === map is now known as maps|wrk === maps|wrk is now known as mapps [06:55] Starting to get a headache with this new Xubuntu... I installed disk managment.. Where do I find it to run it? [06:56] Manlove, try the terminal [06:56] Awesome.. What would I type since software center calls it 'disks' [06:57] Manlove, but I know how to find it. dpkg -l | grep disks* [06:58] It's gnome disk utility I'm trying to open [06:59] Manlove, dpkg -l | grep gnome* will list all the gnome packages. your's will be on the list [07:00] So just out of curiosity.. why don't things show up in the start menu anymore [07:01] Manlove, it's probably there, you just don't see it. if I had to guess: system > gnome-disk would be the location [07:01] Can't find it or launch it... it's in the terminal list [07:02] Manlove: "dpkg -L foo" will list all the files installed from foo. Look for /bin/something [07:03] Manlove, could be a terminal only command ... [07:03] I know it's installed. It's just not opening with anything... [07:04] Manlove, huh. cancel the command and run it again with --verbose that should show something. [07:04] I could just give up completely on Xubuntu... it's nothing but problems and so slow anymore... when I log in. I get "critical system error... wish to report".... on 11.10. I never had a problem [07:07] Manlove: Did you upgrade to 11.10? [07:07] fresh install [07:08] you meant 14.10, correct? [07:09] Manlove, try lubuntu. it's optimized for older hardware. and use LTS only; 14.04.1 at present [07:10] I used to love xubuntu... but I don't get why since 12 it's just been so slow... I have a 64bit system.. which is supposed to = fast === Jan is now known as Guest48572 [09:59] hello [10:16] hello [10:42] hello, [10:42] somebody knows what flash doesn't work at xubuntu? ¿alguien sabe por que flash no funciona en XUbuntu? [10:47] xubuntu79w, it does for me; maybe describe your problem more accurately? [10:49] I can't use a elearning platform where I need to see some videos. (No puedo usar una plataforma elearning donde necesito ver videos) [10:51] I use a legacy pc, with a Ati radeon 9200. But the drivers doesn't have installed in my pc (uso un pc antiguo con una tarjeta ati radeon 9200, pero los drivers no se han instalado [10:52] sorry for my English (perdón por mi inglés) [10:54] I think that problem are ati drivers (pienso que el problema son los drivers de ati) [10:54] but I don't know how install them. (pero no se como instalarlos) [10:54] xubuntu79w, this is an english only channel, so no reason to write it in spanish too; you can use #ubuntu-es if you want to get support in spanish though [10:55] thanks [11:08] Hello, guys [11:08] What is xubuntu`s xorg.conf file? [11:08] Guest67040, xubuntu does not use a xorg.conf file by default [11:09] How do I make it use it? [11:11] Guest67040, just create one and it will be used [11:19] appears to be no way of turning off screen saver on xubuntu 14.04 [11:19] why is this screen saver kicking in [11:19] "light locker" I killed [11:19] this is ridiculous [11:20] they mess around with things that work [11:20] worked [11:20] nomic, stop complaining now. [11:20] why is my screen going blank - what more can I do [11:21] xset -- xset s off xset s noblank xset s 0 0 [11:21] light locker disabled [11:21] the screen still blanks [11:24] nomic, purge xscreensaver - it can conflict lightlocker. choose one or the other [11:24] sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver? [11:24] nomic, apt-get purge xscreensaver [11:25] 'xscreensaver is not installed' [11:25] nomic, then screenblank is coming from your power settings or from lightlocker [11:26] both are turned off -- still it blanks [11:26] nomic, see your logs to track the trigger, dmesg I think [11:44] Good morning [11:45] hello [11:45] How are you guys ? [11:45] fine [11:45] do you have a support question? [11:45] Gread [11:45] ya [11:46] i on my laptop this morning [11:46] but he didn't give me the screen to entre my password [11:46] he just stay loading and loading [11:46] i get in by chance [11:47] Ctr + Alt [11:47] Ctr + Alt + F5 [11:47] after that my user and password [11:47] startx [11:48] i said he will be fixed [11:48] when i rebooted the machine he didnt he still loading and loading [11:48] did you recently upgrade your system or package? [11:48] +s [11:48] are you using PPA's? [11:48] ya [11:48] knome i'm new in linux [11:48] i just start stay it 5 days [11:49] i make update [11:49] and upgrade [11:49] ok, so which xubuntu version are you running now? [11:49] nomic: what does `xset q| grep Stand` return? [11:49] xubuntu 64 [11:50] neotron, no, which version (eg. 14.04, 14.10...) ? [11:50] i really don't know [11:50] i think the last one [11:50] there is a way to know ? [11:51] neotron, in a terminal, type "lsb_release -r" (without the quotes) [11:51] ok thanks [11:52] Release: 14.04 [11:54] Hi! Anyone knows, if there is a known bug with default applications in xubuntu 14.10? I can't change it, so that e.g. ristretto is the default viewer for jpg files. [11:55] They always open Firefox. I changed the default application in the "open with..." dialog, but it does not work. [11:56] Sorry i'm new in linux [11:56] knome plz any help ? [11:56] In the properties of a (sample) jpg, it states "Open With: Ristretto", but on double-click the image is opened in Firefox [11:57] neotron, i don't have the answer to your question at this time; maybe others who know the answer will turn up at some point [11:57] ok thanks [11:57] Jan55 try to unstall firefox [11:57] and install it again [11:59] sorry was afk ..says standby 0 suspend 0 off 0 [11:59] welcome [12:00] relaxed sorry was afk ..says standby 0 suspend 0 off 0 [12:03] any command to fix the whole system ? [12:07] Guys i need help i cant log in he just load and load i need to ( Ctr+Alt+F5 ==>user:***** password:****** : after this i type: startx ) this is the only way i found to get in plz help me [12:23] Hello guys i fixed the problem [12:24] good to hear - how did you resolve it? [12:24] yesterday [12:24] i want off the guest account [12:25] and i add this (allow-guest=false) [12:25] in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [12:25] this will not work alone [12:25] you should add [SeatDefaults] [12:25] [SeatDefaults] [12:25] yep [12:25] and add this allow-guest=false [12:26] i love linux [12:26] he make your use your brain [12:26] you* [12:26] i deleted windows [12:26] :D [12:27] thanks guys [12:28] you're welcome - and enjoy [12:29] thanks you too [13:29] hello is there here anybody to know how to receive hotmail mail on thunderbird ?? [13:30] Ubuntu software is giving me gtk and qt versions of avidemux. [13:30] alexfrench: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-hotmail [13:30] Is GTK the better option for xfce? [13:31] thanks baizon i do search on google and it gives myself such information [13:31] but in french [13:31] livingdaylight: yes imo [13:32] thx! [13:50] hello guys [13:51] hello [13:51] how can i install xubuntu in ubuntu trusty? [13:51] thanks [13:52] can i install vnc4server with it too? [13:52] thank you [13:54] no need to install a new distribution no ?? [13:54] maybe you just change your desktop to xfce no ?? [13:55] i have ubuntu trysty in the server, i need a desktop enviornment. so i was thinking about the xfce, but in ubuntu is named xubuntu [13:57] how about: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [13:57] Avic, or for gui only : sudo apt-get xfce4 [13:58] oh [13:58] and it works with kde too? [13:58] i like kde better, but kubuntu is huge [13:59] Avic, if you're running a server, you probably want to avoid as many GUI things as you can [13:59] Avic, you are bouncing all over here. KDE is a desktop environment. xfce4 is a desktop environment. choose one. [13:59] Avic, what knome said. more gui = less server [13:59] Avic, adding in KDE and using it does bring the same overload to your system as kubutnu (except the settings, additional apps etc) [13:59] hmm, ok [14:00] but same goes for xfce; it will bring overhead [14:00] and lubuntu? [14:00] the same... [14:00] same for lubuntu too. [14:01] Avic, you have server. why do you need a desktop environment? [14:01] ok, what is the easyest and lightwait, lxde or xfce to use vnc? [14:01] Avic, vnc [14:02] Avic, lxde ought to be lighter, but it all depends what you do [14:02] i want to access some spplications with gui [14:02] not all the time [14:02] Avic, ultimately running any DE doesn't add very different amount of load to the network (except maybe KDE) [14:02] only the server [14:03] if you use vnc, you will have a certain amount of load to transfer the GUI stuff over anyway [14:04] i tried freenx yesterday all day... i install it successfully, but couldn't access the server desktop environment [14:05] using the nomachine as the client software, a nightmare... [14:05] i'm so very frustrated that now iḿ going back to vnc again [14:06] so much time waisted [14:06] i'm on this for days finding the best protocol [14:08] knome, its basic sfuff, nothing special, and use the gui sometimes to see how linux works [14:08] use some apps, not all the time [14:14] so it will be ubuntu 14.04 -> lxde + vnc [14:14] is this possible? [14:15] i can't loose any more time with this, i want this configure today. === RedDeath is now known as Guest67244 [15:41] hello, anyone know of the xfce4-weather-plugin 0.8.3 coders are fixing the weather plugin? [15:41] i just noticed it's no longer working [15:44] i don't know [15:48] i found the github page, i see whats going on with it, thanks anyway [15:51] last I knew the fix was in the -proposed repository [15:52] their main page states you need to rebuild source with 2 patches [15:53] already fixed [15:53] just update your system [15:54] some program fetches my ctrl+f12 but I don't want that. Is there any way to find out which app it is? [15:55] (nothing happens when I press it, while my IDE should do stuff) [15:57] aaah, i see, just needed to remove plugin from panel and replug for update to kickin [15:57] right, or relog once [16:10] gcc seems to be installed on my xubuntu, but if i should like to use it with an ide which one is the easier ? [16:11] i see in ubuntu logitheque codeblock:ide one [16:14] anyone knows how the ~/.vnc/xstartup should look like with the lubuntu? [16:32] Adephit, try #lubuntu [16:32] i'm there already, thanks [16:32] but no answer,i'm waiting [16:33] i think i found how, but going to test [17:18] which ide for gcc ?? [17:23] people still use IDEs? [17:23] * Hedgework ducks [17:23] alexfrench: In all seriousness, IDEs are very much a matter of personal workflow and preference. [17:23] alexfrench: I prefer an editor to an IDE, and try to nudge newbie coders in that direction for a variety of reasons, but it's not the One Right Way or anything. [17:24] so it is better to get stuck on terminal with gcc an make all by hand ?? [17:25] on amiga i used to do by hand with gcc too [17:26] and later with stormc [17:30] !ot [17:30] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [17:31] ok [17:38] alexfrench: feel free to pm if you'd like to continue the convo. [17:38] brainwash: Apologies, didn't look at what buffer I was in before answering. [17:45] thanks Hedgework but now i have to go, in fact i switch on my pc [17:46] there i am on virtualbox [17:48] Hey... Anybody know how I can get a count of open gui windows in a shell script? [17:50] xubuntu852: install wmctrl [17:50] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man1/wmctrl.1.html [17:51] wmctrl -l pints a list of current managed windows [17:51]